#archived-modding-development
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do you hate everyone
yes
That WK fire stream looks nice!
I added a trail so you could see how that works too
you open this package through the editor right
yes
with those settings you should be able to recreate anything Hollow Knight does particle effect wise, so long as you are good enough at spriting
Is there any way to make the colliders on the particles smaller
yeah
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Radius scale
I'm pretty sure they're all gonna be sphere colliders though
ohhhh i c
idk if particle systems have a 2D equivalent
you just set the collision mode to 2d
I see
2D collision seems to not touch box colliders
huh
I suppose that makes sense
Interdimensional particle physics isn't my strong suite
~~just do it the tc way, just set radius to max int
~~
If you have any questions about subemitters just @ me, the whole subemitter burst thing is pretty hard to understand at first
I would just change settings at random until it worked when I first started
until I realized burst emission is the only option for subemitters
idk why it doesn't work
every time I feel slightly confident with FSMs, they find a way to destroy me
would 3 watchers at once be too much
not enough
with the trail, it's too much
allow the player to bounce on the trail ez
you should add some type of coordination/pattern to how they attack
that would make the mod really good

good work on that particle trail
haha yes
the only issue with it for pv is that when he teleports it follows him
so i just need to turn it off there
should i add particle systems to each slash
so the slashes have black void trails
yesabsolutely
this is going to be harder than lost lord so that people shut up
56 why dont you make it so that the trail only appears when PV does a certain animation (dashing animation)
maybe
every time he slashes it makes those cool sword trails that does 0 damage but after 1 second or so an explosion happens to them

I also want it when he's moving for the slashes
that way you can't dash through him
shouldn't the trail do that?
Yeah that's why I want it there
Three Watchers is probably doable even with the trail.
Yeah but I don't want to force ddark
That's cancer
and it's already hard to deal with the overlaps
True. Are you doing other stuff like speeding two up?
sigh
u
me
Cool! Good luck with PV then.
send me your test pvs
omg how did you get so much geo!!
wow cheater
thank you stephen, very cool
neat
Ok, I guess you aren't getting banned then
kurosh did you see wk
looks nmice
it's better on pv tbh
what's the material
Particles/Additive
try the material color
I think I had to use Particles/Multiply at some point
Wait
Yeah
That's what was fucking up mesh renderers
Particles/Additive doesn't work
particles/multiply adds to black, particles/additive adds to white
Sometimes
This is literally copy/paste from the shade viewer
Which uses additive
And it works
I just made it wider
Multiply is just invisible
Incredible
If you want to try meshes later, I found that particles/additive just made one of the triangles disappear
but particles/multiply was working
idk why
Unity does not appreciate hard coding things in
there's so much legacy stuff you have to deal with and a bunch of it doesn't make sense from anywhere except the editor
if your triangle disappeared your normal was backwards
There shouldn't be a "backwards" though
That's nonsense
It's not that hard to detect if vertices you're given are clockwise or not
There's just so many hoops you have to jump through because Unity doesn't give a shit about anyone who isn't exclusively using editor
well theres legitimate reasons to have 2 triangles facing different directions ๐ค
If having one in another direction makes it invisible then the only reason would be if you want it invisible
Which is not a feature, it's taking advantage of a bug
most people don't make 2D games in a 3D engine though
I'm sure there's a better way to do backface culling
all 2d games are made in 3d engines
even if the engine limits you to 2d
its still using tris to render everything
you're actually blowing my mind right now please stop
I mean making a quad in code is such an unlikely scenario anyway
um actually I made half of a roguelike in ncurses and ncurses is a strictly 2d engine
99% of the models you import into unity will be actual models
because it's literally just an engine for printing text on a terminal
which cannot, by definition, be 3d
doesn't sounds like much of an engine
sounds like a bunch of utilities for a terminal
well it was originally created for Rogue, the original rogue like
anyway pretty sure theres a script called triangulator
which will automatically figure out your tris and normals
ngl text based doom sounds rad
what tje fuck is your pfp
so either or
what about text only counterstrike? https://xkcd.com/91/
yeah but thats a roguelike
if you want it rendered in text
yes kuro
so you can try to play doom with an 8x8 grid of monogreen text
idk what dimensionality to consider ascii renderers
cuz some of them have a sense of 3d that they translate to 2d and I guess that's 3d just like any other 3d game, but on the other hand you have things like the ascii video output on mpv and that's clearly in the code ignoring the 3rd dimension altogether.
wasnt FrogFractions 2 released already
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aren't ascii renderers usually just a post process
so probably done via a shader, thus on a gpu and thus 3d 
libcaca is entirely software rendered iirc.
dunno if that's what they're doing it in tho
does that run in realtime though
in the end though everything is 2D and we're just simulating 3D
so it's 2D simulating 3D simulating 2D
4d gpus when?
how can 3d be real if my eyeballs only have a 2d sensor plane
pretty sure most gpus have no problems with 4d matrices
That's a good point KDT, but it's actually explained with some simple math.
if we can simulate 3d in 2d planes why not simulate 4d with VR or something?

fake news
3d does not exist
so long as your 3D space has a 2d parameterization
K3DT
how can 2d be real if eyeballs aren't real
Where's Gradow when we need him most
@ gradow
@tolo
also how was Christmas everyone, get anything good?
will to live
I mean who would put a massive hole on the eye and put bloodvessels and nerves on top of the sensors
ic
n 
best gift ever
I got a plug socket
l a m p
it has 2 usb sockets
damn
I got a 399 chair
perfect, by our powers combined we can generate photons @leaden hedge
ax gifted me eroico
but its actually not 399, but its unbranded and chinese
turns out itrs paretty good game
but it can do that
if you ignore the """death""" scenes
I'm disappointed by the number of people in this channel who have played that game
Nothing to be ashamed of
i got money
the thing no one seems to understand is that it's an actual game
it's a good platformer
anyway if you can't play it with one hand it basically sucks
but it doesnt even have path of pain ๐ค
pop is too easy
there's a few porn games that require 2 hands and all I wonder is whyyyyyyyy
please give me a hard trick like airswim
you know I can use a mouse with my left hand whilst using numpad for keyboard inputs for reasons 
because youre ambidextrous ๐ค
well yeah
lefties rise up
imagine having 2 hands and using them both FeelsBadMan
legit kuro you re left handed
Imagine having two hands and using the same one that wipes your ass to pick food out of your teeth
yes, my left handed
:GWmythiFeelsBadMan:
im actually ambidextrous ๐ค
imagine still using your hands instead of using your minds to control anything ๐ฉ
:GWoicZenThink:
woah legit
although I can't write with my left hand
i can't believe how elitist #archived-modding-development is towards people with no hands 
but I dunno why anyone would it smudges everywhere
if you do not exist in our current time space please leave this server
plus my writing is barely ledgible right handed 
my writing is barely legible period
why does rotating 180 degrees on the y axis not flip it
have you tried z axis
idiot rotate it 360 degrees
idk
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I literally spent 3 hours trying to copy rotation from one object to another in Unity yesterday
Rotation is absolutely disgusting and broken
have you tried setting up sliders so you can test the effects of rotation in real time
wait wouldnt y axis jst rotate it like normal 
oh
also idk how to do sliders with unity
the best i can do is binding keybinding to change rotations

who needs GUI anyway
no i mean if you spin it via y axis, thats like, rotating by spinning an ice cream cone
not 56 apparently
rather than flipping it
cuz he uses i3
or am i thinking this wrong 
Command lines for Unity games are really nice though for modding
very helpful piece of GUI
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is there a runtime c# interpreter in unity? @buoyant obsidian

cuz that would be legit sexy
Not that I know of
o
but I've never looked
oof
ttacco stop being right
huh didn't know that would actually be a thing
what did i do 
I do a lot of stuff like fetching types and using them as arguments for things though
the only other runtime interpreter of a mostly compiled language I can think of is TempleOS's c shell
if you squint your eyes really hard it's almost like it's C# interpreting things

as in a shell where you write c code
god I love templeOS and I miss the creator even if I think he was totally insane.
hmmmmmmmmmmm
Imagine using TempleOS when you have PonyOS available to you
you couldnt do like Eval(whatever)
wait you actually used that aa
but unity used to ship with mcs.dll
I read the neofetch
they made their own kernel
this is like, a neckbeard so thick it collapsed in onto itself and became a black hole.
and ponyos is the hawking radiation
Unfortunately some of the side effects of being the 2nd Coming of Christ is people thinking you are insane
@floral furnace It was the second thing I ever installed in KVM.
templeos not ponyos
never heard of ponyos until today
Does anyone know how wide a hk is
smol
like, 2.5 units or so
roughly 1hk
dunno
where
ok nvm ponyos isn't a real thing thank god
I mean it is but it's just a fork of an actual real system
It isn't?
Imagine not using the superior os
so it's not just someone on /g/ that had enough talent to make their own kernel
In all truth, I rather use TempleOS than Chrome OS
what
ok
templeOS only gives your secrets to god
serious question
chrome gives it to everyone
would you rather
tf is a kernel
TempleOS or ChromeOS on a lowend laptop without any internet connection.
its a piece of popcorn
shell is software something right
ChromeOS it's not even a question
or is that the hardware
and kernel is the intermediary
Crouton exists
probably chromeos
I can run anything I want
all the games in templeos are filled with dicks
w/ a linux kernel
chromeOS
yeah good luck installing chouton on a vanilla chromebook without internet
And it'll probably have better hardware support
i bring my trusty crouton usb drive
actually I change my answer 
honestly tho
hi stephen
templeos comes with low graphic fidelity porn 
imagine using crouton and not just wiping chromeos
universe
Yeah I'd install Gallium
Galien*

I walked hiro through doing that
stupid battery life and linux
or just stay at windows 
too bad it's like ubuntu 14 or something
wait what
but he can play steam games so that's cool
I did that with my chromebook
sometimes they require old ass kernels
for driver support
tho
lookin nice
btw speaking of TLP. I have a laptop that uses 50 watts with TLP on really aggressive settings and overheats to 100C when gaming for more than 40 minutes causing the GPU to automatically safety shutdown for 5 seconds causing a game to freeze.
incredible
send help
is this boss fight sponsored by literally any pc related peripherals retailers who add a fuckton of rgb in their shit for no goddamn reason
is this boss fight sponsored by literally any pc related peripherals retailers who add a fuckton of rgb in their shit for no goddamn reason
no that's just rainbow knight
nah take your time im too busy procastinating anyway
no
i demand it
ok send emote then
thank you very much Finchmeister
56 you already lost the race
incredible
you were like 20 seconds late

just like that speedr~ cough
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yes
PepoThumb slowly working its way up the frequently used emotes list

the dagger throw but 3 times at different deviations
Reported to Simo
yes please report it to discord
tf is that font
Should I just make it so you have to shadow dash it
no
And then make two
i hate forced shade cloak attacks
okay
you know what a good font is
yeah by the time you get back i want touhou "fuck you" levels of daggers
no

what do i even change the darts to
make each of them emit the flame particles
that's
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wait no just add it to hte last set of darts
like the top and bottom ones?
how are you gonna change the darts?
idk
i thought you would do it epic radiance style with the 3 wave face to your face lances
abuse waits
no you don't understand
i really dont
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
lmao
same
Lol
incredible
is revek a female
no
k
yes
I think you are not very trustworthy
i think i got pregante
Congrats dude!
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does anyone know how to get the debug mod working or is it just dead?
didn't see the modding help thing until now, sorry for interrupting.
How could you interrupt at a time like this Kurosh just got pregante
tbf you werent interrupting anything of value how daer u intrrupt kuros pregantec
which is to say
kuro elder god hu when
when people get good at the game and beat my ig
@ ax2u
inb4 actual ping
the man cant even survive baldur shell how will he beat me at infinite grimm 

tf
fuck yea

incredible
nuts

i am going to steal this
no




incredible
i already had it

no i've got more
oh god oh fuck
hes grown too powerful
thats afucton of guns
send thinkgun
or 
why do i have this
i have 

very
highly terrible
Anger, sorrow, distress and dismay
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mine is superior
phenomenal




oh hbtrgnym h,tk,
send tdograt server 
56 link server

@ Verulean#7298 where
@hazy sentinel
why


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no
same honestly
yes
why do i not have that
"Hollow Terraria (working title)"





its milk ok
Not even trying to beat around the bush

no
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm





No I mean maggotprime

same

i actually don't know what to change
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
this is the best kuro lore so far
it be
like that
Yes it was a big twist that no one saw coming when Kurosh became pregante
Greetings from phone because if I alt tab out of monster hunter world it crashes
I hate typing on mobile this hurts
all pepos is bad

greetings to you too Finchmeister
I cannot believe Kurosh has just said hello to me I must be dreaming
yes, it is I, the very famous individual known as DLKurosh
Omg !!
Monster hunter world has crashed again
But this time in a special way because it has frozen and I cannot alt f4 or alt tab
DLKurosh? are you the guy who desoldered his e key ๐ฎ
Incredible

no
yes
Kurosh if I posted no claw mode rando would you stream a playthrough of it?
if i could play the game 
Oh yeah
But mick is probably asleep
And idk who else to ask to test shit
It's probably not broken
doubt
godhome lifeblood upgrades included in item rando when

Breaks everything he touches
wow nice
lmao
Can't even update my mod
you can just hit manage versions and upload any name
that's how I upload modlinks(15).xml
Idk where you're seeing manage versions
Right click the zip in gdrive
nuts
x
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nice
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Wait what was the version number for rando on the drive?
I don't know if I incremented it ever
2b?
14 pretty sure
Yeah it was 14
56 stream no claw rando
Good morning
wow nice shameless self plug


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is that with wings
yea
@copper nacelle
I tried removing all the transitions that lead to Hop but nothing changed
_control.RemoveTransition("Hop Antic", "FINISHED");
_control.RemoveTransition("Face Left", "FINISHED");
_control.RemoveTransition("Face Right", "FINISHED");
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it's almost like that means it isn't used
also the fsm viewer is based on assets not the actual changed gsm
???
but the velocity is changed when it wall jumps
shouldn't there be something that sets it back to default?
idk it doesn't like you

is christmas dead for everyone now
shouldn't dumping the pale lurker game object show me the correct fsm 56?
saleh any interest in making the pale lurker re-fightable
good ee
still waiting for your mod knightmere
?
answer my question 56 pls
uhhh
yeah but so should the fsm viewer
"also the fsm viewer is based on assets not the actual changed fsm"
-56
does changing one variable count as a mod
yeah once you've changed it you fool
the original fsm is just from assets deserialized
just activate the "gngIsActuallyGood" bool to true and youre good to go
once I've changed it or once the game has changed it?
but I already knew that
asjhdfasdf
my question was why the fsm viewer showed the Hop state when it seems to do nothing
saleh STOP distracting him NOW

because it probably does something and it probably re-serializes like soul tyrant or some shit
so shouldn't dumping the game object during the fight show me the re-serialized version?
sure but it's just the same as the viewer
what I am getting from this is that I should just destroy the pale lurker fsm and do it all myself with code
Kerr did it with the hornet fsm but no one used it
nathan do you know if grubsong is in logic
so I dont think it would be worth it
like, randomizer logic?
okm
oh

my bad

why are there multiple pale lurker game objects when I print all GOs in the scene?
just ask tc to remove every fsm
At least get them to remove ones that are redundant, or just contain 1 state, that they could just do in code
56, if it got replaced then the changes to the other states would not work either
but editing "Hop Antic" for example, works
it's just Hop that doesn't work
lurker is too high on hops to care
imagine thinking this game makes sense
they could literally just reference the same actions array 
elegy being split into 8 fsms
MaKeS sEnSe
there are 3 Pale Lurker game objects in the same scene
how can I differentiate between them in code?
Do I just destroy 2 and hope the one that remains is good?
it's like when TC names 4 of the dung related fsms the exact same thing, you can't tell them apart
not with that attitude
there are 3 pale lurker GOs but when I remove 1 they all seem to get deleted
I print all GOs, that prints 3 Pale Lurkers
then I do Destroy(GameObject.Find("Pale Lurker")); once
I print all GOs again, now there are no Pale Lurkers
what am I supposed to do then
Sisters of Lurking
I made a list of all the Pale Lurkers and changed all their Hop and Hop Antic states to Log something.
Only Hop Antic works still
Hop still doesnt work
56 any suggestions
@copper nacelle your kingsmoulds are shit
replace quickslash with shaman stone
and cast fluke closer to them
How do I check if something is dreamnailed?
thot
hey is there any idea about when the editor is gonna be released?
when it's done
same
it just ran through my head
a city of tears menu theme would technically be possible as far as im concerned
well then
thats something id make
I want a mod with every enemy as primal aspid but with the normal enemy's health
original idea

any game that contains the word "rogue" in its the description is bad
if it has the word "roguelike" then it's an abomination on this earth
why
please consider, however: rogue + an unorthodox household item
rogue toilet
i would 100% play a game called rogue eyelash curler
sigh
rogue litter box
rogue dildo
you win
I think I found my biggest fan 
they called TC's art crappy
other than that, I am glad they liked the mod
that's a big thonk
where was that posted
prob Cranky's vid of DoH
I'm guessing
"fanmade assets" tho
k
Sure this person will love Pale Lurker 2: The Lurkening
I actually wanted to draw my own assets for that one 
that was the joke
how did you know I was going to add new assets?
you said that you wanted to recolor the Pale Lurker
Could a kind soul give this picture of the pale lurker the Hall of Gods statue style?
@river eagle
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This is from meme bot
I can't do digital art for shit
also it literally says half rose on the pic
well I am not going to beg in art-discussion
using qs 
@ornate rivet reads like a redwing review minus the score at the end.
a mod has to be super uber reaslitic effecs or else mod bad
hey does hollow point add dialogue cuz maybe that review would fit that too
dia what now
and if not why not
well, not really, other than my subconscious telling me to replace every text to make it seem like youre an fbi agent sent to hallownest for a drug bust, other than that no
then again this mod was never serious in the first place 
my subconscious designed all my mods because I lack higher thought.
if only there was a higher being to give us thought, preferably a hot moth lady ๐
how radiant
seriously I thought: wouldn't be cool if redwing ended in a very cliche way, and I made it happen because it was memey.
also I added a nuke ending inspired by dying light
I looked at the redwing endings without playing the mod and I dont understand them
by cliche you mean hornet talking about friendship and how it can save hallownest then yes
not in redwing
altho I've wanted to do something like that
I never got around to it
why does the knight start floating next to the dreamer thing in one of the endings
it's dnail softlock 2
uhhh saleh you just dont understand, the ending was just too deep for you /s
save the world with
THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
I had this idea: what if when you passed out after reaching that point if everything else after that point was a dream. And then I never fleshed out the character dialogue enough to explain it really.
sounds like a hollow knight mod
that or you wake up
and youre on a cart
"Finally wake were you, you were trying to cross hallownest's border, same thing as that stag thief over there"
fuck i dont remember the entire skyrim dialogue
ok that makes slightly more sense AA
I was gonna flesh it out with Redwing Unity by editing a lot of GM dialogue but apathy too strong
you're about to be beheaded and then the radiance appears
you get knocked up
then you get down again
you have to choose to go with quirrel or lemm
though doing the "it was all a dream" thing is not cool 
open world hollow knight rpg when
so i can hear the engaging hornet dialogue of "i am sworn to carry your burdens" 2347982347 times
i am sworn to carry your burdens
hi sworn to carry your burdens
i am sworn to carry your burdens
How about, 387290675130925066 times?
nah thats too much i dont want to feel like im at limbo
it's more like it's just a dream but it's a dream under the influence of the radiance but you can actually affect the world by your actions by affecting the radiance. @ornate rivet
how about 8979323846264338327950 times
ok
wow AA then youll love godmaster
the first two endings are the bad endings, they're the ones where you've failed to influence the radiance and under which nothing changes and you lose all your free will
lore
OwO
what's the lore behind radiance nuke
wow this is pretty much shade lord ending except take out radiance
Team Cherry copied AA
really makes you think
well discord messages laggy
quick if we start modding the entire hornet dlc maybe tc will finally release theirs 

That's why I said "Team Cherry copied AA"
just mod your internet's fsm
teach it to hop
I got hopping to work with my own code actually
now she hops towards you and runs away when you start attacking back
complaining about fsms are like so last year, complaining about the goddamn wall hitboxes is where its at 
I agree
I would say yes but i havent touched the particle system nor have i tried so no
What if
the Walls were just particle effects
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@rain cedar it's not try/caught
Whoops
how great, is the idea, that instead of making an animation from lets say, 3 pics/frames, you create 3 different game objects with each of those sprites then instantiate and destroy them immediately after one another to make it seem like theres an animation
what's a man gotta do to get dnail softlock these days
why assume the gender is male
this
daughter of hallownest looks cool
#speedrunning is a huge ass meme rn
what a meme
how do i make pure vessel look like armored but the entire guys help can you guys make a mod for this since hollow knight is very well optimized and i play it on switch can you guys make a mod for switch that makes this in the game thanks ๐
did you just commit alive or something
ah
56
is that still the latest pale prince
did u exist 15 years ago
yes
did you exist when godmaster had an actual platforming gauntlet
just when i thought the collision part is fine now, suddenly theres a platform that ignores just about everything, hollow knight why
hk modding is an experience
You could take a look at how VS does collisions
let me guess, wade through fireball control fsm?
Probably
cuz if i could, i would shoot at every platform making sure i get it filtered through string.Contains
also i think the earlier problems happened because the bullet was too small, i have no fucking idea why
nice
dumb guess, unity hates small game objects
discussion is turning into PoH salt again
i got called a "tc cocksucker" for saying abs rad isn't a bad boss



is better tbh


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