but its not toooo bad
#archived-modding-development
cunning lagoon
you have 2 chances at it and theres a decent chance you get it
it doesnt look like theres much to lab here tbh
young walrus
Keinsistent
warped sinew
How are you making it more consistent
young walrus
Turn around strats
cunning lagoon
i feel like thats a pretty solid success rate
but when it fails it just looks like rng
silk jetty
I like how #archived-modding-development is basically #speedrunning half of the time
cunning lagoon
like i dont think i did anything wrong on the last one
cunning lagoon
do you have any clips of you doing it?
young walrus
Uh.... I'd have to find it
cunning lagoon
do you do it in hundo
cunning lagoon
alright ill check that
cunning lagoon
hmm i see what you mean
young walrus
Hit soul thing. Walk right. Turn around left then dive
warped sinew
Is it RNG or is it just insanely tight positioning ?
fair rampart
Can someone explain quickly What the mod pack brings?
floral furnace
floral furnace
its not one super mega modpack btw, just several different mods you can install
fair rampart
No im just wondering What mods it contained. Or What mods there are available for hk
fair rampart
Something that can make a replay fresh im hoping for
young walrus
That would be most of them
copper nacelle
Then you can see what it has
And if you want to see what they do
the mod summary is good
and if it doesn't have the mod or you want more info
install it and hit readme
if you don't like it uninstall it
Easy
trim totem
56 what were you streaming
trim totem
you're pretty coool
copper nacelle
No it took me like the entire stream to learn up to dnail
between dnail and shade cloak
I was in the abyss when I ended the stream
cunning lagoon
this guy
copper nacelle
But I didn't get cloak
cunning lagoon
omegaluling you when he can't even get sub 1h in all skills no major glitches
rain cedar
Don't worry I'll get sub hour easy next time
copper nacelle
There's so many oobs
fair rampart
Nice
floral furnace
ooblobbles
fair rampart
Randomizer seems fun
copper nacelle
Wait cloak doesn't give you dash right?
rain cedar
no
copper nacelle
I tried like twice
then gave up because debug was broken
ModCheats exists
because the destroy borders coroutine goes off
but changing the bindings makes the mod not work at all
and my up button is the insta-die button
rain cedar
Maybe now somebody other than krythom will fix that shit up
Since you have motivation to
copper nacelle
Wait fuck
you reminded me
I put a try catch
In Update
My output log after 2 minutes of playing is 15mb
I wonder how big it was at the end of the stream
ok
I might see the problem
copper nacelle
I guess you could only get it from like dnSpy or emitting IL
because you can't compile stuff which accesses private stuff
copper nacelle
I just edited the binds
I have no clue how it was even working in the first place
@ krythom
Oh shit
cunning lagoon
is this code gore
rain cedar
gameObject.transform
cunning lagoon
rain cedar
It's probably compiled to access gameObject.transform
But when you recompile it switches
Somehow
rain cedar
Look at the IL of the compiled version
copper nacelle
yeah I'm checking that rn
rain cedar
I'm like 90% sure it will be grabbing MonoBehaviour.transform
copper nacelle
rain cedar
But when you recompile it somehow goes to the private one
copper nacelle
That's ldfld for HeroController
rain cedar
Wtf
copper nacelle
Exactly
cunning lagoon
56 can you beat my ig already i actually want to make eldergod hu now
copper nacelle
maybe
cunning lagoon
just do it
rain cedar
Idk
copper nacelle
I get it if it was only giving errors when you press the button
rain cedar
But switch it to .gameObject.transform
copper nacelle
But changing binds shouldn't do that at all
biggest noot
@tranquil glen you should probably change this cause it shouldn't be working in the first place
rain cedar
Idk why it's getting the private one
copper nacelle
You're right
Because it would hide the public field
But only if you can actually see the private field
I think Krythom swapped to MonoMod
Maybe that's why?
But then the IL shouldn't be fucked
Wtf
This deeply confuses me
I guess I can try ILSpy or something else
Wow it works now 
I mean it would make sense if the IL was right but it's also fucked
or is it
ahh
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
hi
floral furnace
IntPtkr
copper nacelle
If you mask a public with a private can you not access the public anymore at all
Because that's a property get
Which makes sense
because MonoBehaviour transforms are extern properties
i think
Or not
MonoBehaviours don't have transforms
How the actual fuck was this code working
Wait no they inherit it
rain cedar
If it's a property it makes even less sense though
Since it should be get_transform()
And the HC one is just a field
copper nacelle
wait
wow i misremembered that terribly
nice
that's a double wtf from me
IL_034e: call class HeroController HeroController::get_instance()
IL_0353: callvirt instance class [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Component::get_transform()
IL_0358: callvirt instance valuetype [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform::get_position()
IL_035d: ldfld float32 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3::x
IL_0362: call class HeroController HeroController::get_instance()
IL_0367: callvirt instance class [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Component::get_transform()
IL_036c: callvirt instance valuetype [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform::get_position()
IL_0371: ldfld float32 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3::y
IL_0376: call class GameManager GameManager::get_instance()
IL_037b: callvirt instance class CameraController GameManager::get_cameraCtrl()
IL_0380: callvirt instance class [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Component::get_transform()
IL_0385: callvirt instance valuetype [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform::get_position()
IL_038a: ldfld float32 [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3::z
IL_038f: newobj instance void [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3::.ctor(float32, float32, float32)
IL_0394: callvirt instance void [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform::set_position(valuetype [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Vector3)
what is this highlighting
rain cedar
The tabbing too
It's disgusting
Wow you made it worse
Orange
Keep it
I love it
copper nacelle
ok well the thing here is that ILSpy has actual good IL
IL_0362: call class HeroController HeroController::get_instance()
IL_0367: callvirt instance class [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Transform [UnityEngine]UnityEngine.Component::get_transform()
Component
copper nacelle
Yeah
rain cedar
Wtf
copper nacelle
I think
Wait
No
The one I was reading in dnSpy
Didn't work
This is the working but fucked binds one
rain cedar
Alright
Worst case: Change the binds in IL using dnspy
That really shouldn't fuck up the transform call
rain cedar
copper nacelle
dnSpy just decompiled it wrong
IL was all good
Can you actually do HeroController.transform tho
rain cedar
Submit a bug report
copper nacelle
yes
You can
And cause he MonoMod'd it in instead of dnSpying it in
It compiled correctly
Nice
Agh
It wants me to attach needed files
Should I just attach Assembly-CSharp or should i bother reproducing it
copper nacelle
weary
rain cedar
I can't watch when you stream that early
cunning lagoon
this in my o
rain cedar
your o?
cunning lagoon
opinion
rain cedar
o
copper nacelle
Ok so I was gonna file the bug
But current build dnSpy doesn't have it
win/win i guess
rain cedar
Using outdated software 😩
copper nacelle
real question is how outdated was i
rain cedar
There's only one computer lab out of like a million at this school with visual studio installed and it's 2012
floral furnace
like 5 outdated
rain cedar
Outdated Pog
cunning lagoon
ah so only 1 outdated
rain cedar
Also git is configured to cache your password even if it's wrong
copper nacelle
Well now I have one from the travis build so that's nice
rain cedar
And you need an admin login to reset it
copper nacelle
wtf
rain cedar
So don't type it wrong kiddo
cunning lagoon
yes
rain cedar
Yeah do it
cunning lagoon
literally the only reason im up at 9am is to watch 5fiftysix6 run true ending all glitches
rain cedar
literally the only reason im up at 1145pm is because i never sleep this early
trim totem
56 is streaming hollow knight
floral furnace
remember not to pull a kuro when you get cd
copper nacelle
You don't get cd
floral furnace
damn it
copper nacelle
Did chat die or is my chat broken?
cunning lagoon
neither
copper nacelle
what
cunning lagoon
what
copper nacelle
What does that mean
floral furnace
What does anything mean
copper nacelle
ok
cunning lagoon
@copper nacelle https://youtu.be/luLkoO7S1M0
ornate rivet
why did finch ping?
floral furnace
it was something about knightmere making a "pale prince dll" file but all it had was "i would like to thank 56, kuro etc etc (your name included) for making this Modding.Logger.Log("stop it with your elitist priveleged modding bull shit 56");" or something like that
but the dll had pings on them so he accidentally pinged all of them 
ornate rivet
ah ok
weak lodge
mortal trout
nice screenshot that's not showing all the words
weak lodge
Finch took that one not me u dingo
supple hawk
hey guys any mod for bosses hp?
ornate rivet
yes there is a mod that shows hp bar
just install the Mod Installer (second message pinned)
and select the right mod when you open the mod installer
@supple hawk
supple hawk
@ornate rivet thanks mate i downloaded and its working perfectly....is there a list of the mods effect?
ornate rivet
there is a description for every mod if you click "readme" when you install a mod @supple hawk
compact sedge
is literally anything about this sentence actually true besides the "my mod isn't so complex" part?
this is how ima respond because it's the only way I know of you can "rip someone off" with source code that you can't do without source code.
in sushi's defense atomic radiance is a ripoff by that definition. and it totally is
which is why I tried to make it objectively worse
what with the 2500hp final stage and the meme climb
and that it's total rng
like I made the double pillars spaced so it's actually impossible to dash through them.
and it's also why I distribute it only in my garbage bin of mods that includes mods that make all the text pink squares (which rider has ceased allowing me to compile stuff aand I have 0 clue how to fix it.)
hazy root
how does modding work for this game
compact sedge
you download the modding api and modcommon, create a new c# project in visual studio or something (with the project type being a .net 3.5 dll. And then you copy other people's code until you have something that builds. Put the built dll in your hollow knight mods folder and it gets loaded as a mod.
If you're trying to do what everyone else has done and make your own super hard boss mod definitely copy 56's code.
he also online a lot to help you out
compact sedge
wdym uh
hazy root
uh as in the "oh I get it" uh
compact sedge
wdym nobody can make art here except papers
mortal trout
everything would only look out of place if you needed your own sprites
hazy root
or are there any artists in the community who know how to replicate the sprites style?
copper nacelle
there are but like no one adds anything which needs new sprites
mortal trout
^
hazy root
ok
compact sedge
we know as programmers how to replace these things but we don't really have any active artists who can do so.
dusky lion
Isn't someone making PV have his other arm back
hazy root
so no content mods are possible?
compact sedge
yeah
that's a wonderful mod
I also have a tiny mod that gives PVs statue a second arm
hazy root
pv?
dusky lion
Pure Vessel
hazy root
oh
compact sedge
any mod doing whatever you want is possible
but if you want art you're gonna have to do it yourself
dusky lion
or you know commission
dusky lion
angle
ornate rivet
pay money to make something for free? no thanks
compact sedge
it would cost me 120 dollars to get just two scenes of just one of my redwing endings drawn
dusky lion
y i k e s
compact sedge
and redwing has already cost me ~30 dollars so ima stop letting it cost me anything else
ornate rivet
wish I knew how to draw
compact sedge
well I guess I could get a really crappy artist to draw it for like 10 dollars @dusky lion
dusky lion
Just beg Ari Gibson to draw it for you
compact sedge
but like, there's only one person I know who can replicate the vanilla game's style and takes commissions
mortal trout
who's that
hazy root
may I see his art?
compact sedge
half-rose
mortal trout
oh yeah
compact sedge
and uh yeah it's a lot of online stuff
hazy root
where can i find his work
compact sedge
ornate rivet
GameObject Ari = GameObject.Find("Ari");
PlayMakerFSM _AriControl = Ari.LocateMyFSM("Control");
_AriControl.GetAction<SetWhoToDrawFor>("Drawing",0).drawForWho = "SalehAce";
fair rampart
"Ari"? are you making a superboss version of Sheo?
mortal trout
meme
ornate rivet
no
compact sedge
just procedurally generate your art
ornate rivet
forcing ari to draw for me
copper nacelle
X
dusky lion
Just don't follow HK style at all ez
copper nacelle
what the fuck
mortal trout
lmao
dusky lion
you forgot the J
ornate rivet
you dont use J's in ciphers
copper nacelle
What
Don't you usually skip X or K
because X is garbage and K can be replaced by C
ornate rivet
I thought i/j were usually joined together
copper nacelle
huh
fair rampart
and Q can be replaced with K, which in turn can be replaced by C
compact sedge
only in wingshade's font... for some dumb reason that I had to fix.
n and m were also originally gonna be the same too
and they almost are
ornate rivet
Polybius square
fair rampart
Why are I and J the same?
copper nacelle
I swear I did that but without X
ornate rivet
because latin
fair rampart
C/K/Q/X can be substituted for eachother
ornate rivet
yea
fair rampart
Seriously, why did we need 4 letters for basically the same sound
ornate rivet
reeeeeeee the hive knight bee only moves horizontally for dungo reasons
nothing I do fixes it
hazy root
lwhats the redwing mod?
fair rampart
broken
hazy root
sad
fair rampart
and the beta version is broken in the other way
compact sedge
fair rampart
in the non-beta version of Redwing, you hit something once and the burn kills it instantly after a second
compact sedge
yeah
that's about how broken it is
and the beta one is uh really buggy
and if rider won't let me compile stuff idk how to fix it
fair rampart
in beta you can fall thru acid
compact sedge
yeah
ornate rivet
that's why you need to make the bosses stronger as well when you give the players new abilities
compact sedge
I was relying on all y'all people making those hardcore boss mods to do it
fair rampart
also dash takes soul, but spells do not
ornate rivet
I mean at this rate we will have most important bosses stronger
mortal trout
watcher knight buff mod when
ornate rivet
but I want knightmere to do that
fair rampart
But Knightmere is like, my level of coding
mortal trout
knightmere is under my level of coding, and I just started learning
fair rampart
1 year of 0 experience
mortal trout
just copy and pasting code i see
ornate rivet
I think I'll mod gruz mother next
ornate rivet
dont tell 753
mortal trout
true
ornate rivet
I hate modding bosses because every time I think I am done I start adding something else
mortal trout
?=partnereastsidelag
copper nacelle
I need to do hive knight
ornate rivet
do it
copper nacelle
I've been telling banana I'd do it for like 3 years
fair rampart
within reason of course
copper nacelle
I even wrote some of the code for it
ornate rivet
I'll make collector spawn bosses
mortal trout
wtf
ornate rivet
or maybe I will make it spawn modded enemies
mortal trout
modded enemies sounds good but wouldnt you need sprites
ornate rivet
no I mean, buffed enemies that already exist
mortal trout
oh
copper nacelle
*enemy
dusky lion
invert their sprites and now its amazing
ornate rivet
wasn't someone making a nail master mod?
mortal trout
yeah
ornate rivet
also what happened to the gun mod that someone else was making
mortal trout
@ember bloom i think
fair rampart
Aer made a made where you can only use Nail Arts
dusky lion
that was ttacco i thought
ember bloom
Wat
fair rampart
I don't think he released it
mortal trout
how's the nailmaster mod
copper nacelle
that was sprites
ember bloom
What do you want
ember bloom
It was just sprites
fair rampart
Okay, how goes the Shade mod then?
ember bloom
Well, i have pseudo code and got most of the basic mechanics
mortal trout
is better charms on the installer yet?
fair rampart
I didn't put it on there, but someone is welcome to
copper nacelle
but why
fair rampart
why what?
copper nacelle
why didn't you put it on there
fair rampart
I didn't want to mess up modlinks
weak lodge
AA ill let you know the only thing i know how to do is Console.Writeline ("meme mann"); 😎
compact sedge
hey knightmere
copper nacelle
hmmmmmmmmmmm
weak lodge
?
ornate rivet
but also
compact sedge
if ya don't wanna learn to code that's cool too and even if ya do do you really wanna learn c# as your first language?
ornate rivet
c# is the best language tbh
rain cedar
C# is an easy language though
compact sedge
it's a lot like java
I wouldn't have picked it up in 3 days if it wasn't basically the same actually
ornate rivet
c# is better than java in all the right ways
compact sedge
I personally like c++ but I'd suggest python
rain cedar
Managed memory as a beginner 😩
copper nacelle
x
compact sedge
without much knowledge
ornate rivet
I hate python
rain cedar
Python is good
copper nacelle
you write some code
ornate rivet
it's too hard
rain cedar
Wtf
copper nacelle
and then you get halfway through it running
and then you get an error that you misspelled something
hazy root
nail master mod?
ornate rivet
I like my variables to do only one thing
weak lodge
paintmaster sheo def getting buff 
copper nacelle
which isn't bad looking back at it but starting out it was a pain
compact sedge
idk that I'd start on c++ but it's a very easy language to learn
mortal trout
knightmere make pale prince
compact sedge
like actually I have a question for you c# people cuz I need to do something
rain cedar
I have a friend who codes in C and hates C++ because he doesn't understand the concept of a class
weak lodge
i already did @mortal trout
copper nacelle
Nice
rain cedar
It's an interesting situation
compact sedge
wow lul
compact sedge
is this linus
rain cedar
Who the fuck is linus?
ornate rivet
@copper nacelle
What's the purpose of reparenting a gameobject?
ornate rivet
copper nacelle
He reparented NKG's spikes
compact sedge
you reparent them if you want it to be moved and rotated according to a different parent object
ornate rivet
wow so that's why I cant move it
ornate rivet
what's wrong with this?
compact sedge
you remain their child when you jump while on them while they're moving which makes the jumping on them feel really wrong
hazy root
sad how much the modding community is held back due to the lack of competent sprites or spriters
compact sedge
and lack of motivation
rain cedar
Same
So are you gonna help out or did you just come in here to say "Yo y'all suck at art"
compact sedge
hey redwing's endings may look shitty but... they're the best I can do man gimme a break pls
hazy root
im gonna learn how this game is coded and try my luck
compact sedge
I even downloaded and sorta learned blender for one of them
ornate rivet
I dont even understand what's going on in the redwing endings
mortal trout
imagine being able to replicate a hand drawn art style perfectly
compact sedge
me neither although I also think ending 3 in vanilla doesn't make sense so idk man
rain cedar
That's why you instead redraw everything in your own style
copper nacelle
stick figure hk
ornate rivet
why does ending 3 not make sense 
rain cedar
Which ending is 3?
copper nacelle
radiance?
mortal trout
ending 4 when
ornate rivet
bad idea
copper nacelle
@mortal trout godhome doesn't exist
rain cedar
Ending 5
mortal trout
makes sense
rain cedar
Godhome flower
copper nacelle
yes
hazy root
remake the entirety pf hollow in pixel art lol
ornate rivet
does godmaster count as an ending even though the story is incomplete?
copper nacelle
🅱ornet dlc
ornate rivet
wouldn't the ending to the hornet dlc be the ending to that branch
mortal trout
make hornet dlc as a mod before it's actual release ez
compact sedge
There's no propensity for the void retreating after "accomplishing" its purpose of killing the light especially given godmaster's ending. Also the way the void kills the light is represented in game is by a bunch of lamps being uncovered to brighten a dark room. @ornate rivet but anyway it's stupid lore and nobody here cares about lore.
cunning lagoon
Can 
n endings and l re
weak lodge
excuse me
mortal trout
lore gay lol
ornate rivet
void consuming the light is seen by orange stuff being gone though
dusky lion
lightbringer is canon
ornate rivet
before that the room is completely orange
ornate rivet
but we only see that room which didn't have anything living in it to begin with
compact sedge
they don't show the orange stuff vanishing
cunning lagoon
The infection did nothing wrong
ornate rivet
radiance did nothing wrong until pk came in*
compact sedge
ending 3 is framed in a misleading way to make it seem as though the consequences of the knights actions, with the exception of the knight's "death", are nothing but positive by showing literally two lifeless rooms. Consequently the ending also would better fit as the ending of a game where the void was the main antagonist
ornate rivet
but void can be an antagonist just like any other power in the game
cunning lagoon
😴
copper nacelle
yes
mortal trout
lore gay af lol
ornate rivet
@copper nacelle
copper nacelle
hi
dusky lion
amazing
copper nacelle
hmmm
dusky lion
thats the incorrect @copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
Deserved ping
copper nacelle
u
dusky lion
i hereby claim that if you set your nickname to @ everyone then anyone shall meme ping you with no repercussions
mortal trout
@copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
This is true
dusky lion
hk has no lore
still hare
Lore is just a fabrication of delusional people who desperately want there to be more than there actually is 
compact sedge
I'm not saying it's bad for when context is removed to misinterpret an ending's implications. But my opinion is that a good ending is clear about itself and works even without context. It's not hard to do either. If you see celeste's ending having never played the game it makes perfect sense. You see a girl sitting on top of a mountain happily looking at the view and then chatting with a bunch of ghosts and spirits she's friends with and eating apple pie and it's easy to interpret exactly what it means.
But HK tries to be intentionally vague and ambiguous about its shit and it seems to hurt more than help it imo.
copper nacelle
is this god
dusky lion
yes
compact sedge
haha
copper nacelle
agreed
rain cedar
@unborn goblet roblox bad
vapid cape
I think Hollow Knight does have actual lore and hidden story details to uncover, but the fandom goes way too far.
compact sedge
@unborn goblet your nickname bad
dusky lion
@supereveryone roblox bad
mortal trout
@unborn goblet roblox garbage
compact sedge
@unborn goblet honestly, fuck roblox
vapid cape
They seem to have this rule where they assume EVERYTHING is part of a master plan and NOTHING is how it is because it's a videogame, which is... frankly IMO, a really fucking stupid stance to take on it.
still hare
@unborn goblet you brought this upon yourself
vapid cape
Hollow Knight's a videogame, it's not a grand work of art with some game attached to it.
dusky lion
yeah thats rain world
compact sedge
my personal opinion is the opposite that TC didn't know where they were going with their lore or what they wanted to do all the way until around godmaster
mortal trout
a lot of people think this game is god itself
dusky lion
think you for heavy multiplying my message edgy and 56
now its multiplied in correctness
mortal trout
nah @unborn goblet
dusky lion
try not having your nickname be @unborn goblet
unborn goblet
but its funny cuz
still hare
@unborn goblet what did you expect with that nickname
dusky lion
To quote myself
"i hereby claim that if you set your nickname to @ everyone then anyone shall meme ping you with no repercussions"
still hare
@unborn goblet then people make a joke by haha I’m pinging everyone
copper nacelle
i hereby claim that if you set your nickname to @ maid finch | 7 zip file manager then anyone shall meme ping you with no repercussions
rain cedar
@dusky lion
copper nacelle
@dusky lion
ornate rivet
@compact sedge
But why is it not clear? You see the Radiance get consumed. The cutscene returns to a scene that was at one point infected but is no longer infected to indicate it is gone. The void that had risen up because you called it with void heart starts sinking back. You see the siblings going back to the abyss because their job is done.
If you want the game to show you a scene outside of the egg temple with all the infection gone, well the devs did not do that to add a sense of uncertainty about what you have done. You are not sure whether what you did was good or evil and need to ponder over your actions.
dusky lion
colon maggot colon
rain cedar
MaggotD
copper nacelle
mortal trout
56 did you know that kurosh probably will want you to stream
dusky lion
56 stream homework
copper nacelle
mortal trout
56 stream making pale prince
dusky lion
56 stream khan lurking
rain cedar
Hey I have one emote left for ffz someone tell me a good one
That I don't already have
compact sedge
actually I believe it frames it to make it look unambiguously good, like a noble sacrifice or something. but the more you think about it the more you realize your actions are much more ambiguous and idk I don't like it that way. @ornate rivet
rain cedar
copper nacelle
maggotMaggot
rain cedar
I have it
weak lodge
What kind of faggotry has taken place
rain cedar
One job
weak lodge
56 question
mortal trout
the only kind of faggotry taking place is your message
weak lodge
is there a hook for the player’s nail
copper nacelle
yes
weak lodge
The only faggotry taking place is your existence
ornate rivet
idk how to respond to that so, ok I guess
copper nacelle
is this god
ornate rivet
what is root.transform?
rain cedar
But you just said it wasn't loading
dusky lion
perhaps
rain cedar
Yeah I added it
copper nacelle
haha yes
weak lodge
56 I have a suggestion for QoL mod
Add pure vessel at the end of PoP ez
Completely QoL
ornate rivet
that would be a QoL tbh
having to do 4 pantheons to get to PV is annoying
copper nacelle
weary
weak lodge
ic
unborn goblet
and btw WHY IS THE GAME BAD?! ITS GOOD!
THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF!!!
JUST PLAY IT URSELF!!!
dusky lion
❌
rain cedar
@unborn goblet ok
unborn goblet
its good....
dusky lion
The only thing I have to say about ROBLOX is that they have virtual fidget spinners that cost more than actual fidget spinners
Which is a human feat that few can match up against
unborn goblet
yea OKAY
weak lodge
@unborn goblet ok
unborn goblet
they are MONEY HUNGRY
dusky lion
ergo, bad
fossil oxide
weak lodge
Sean stream all skills nmg
dusky lion
sean stream roblox
weak lodge
Sean stream pale prince
mortal trout
did somebody say roblox is a good game
rain cedar
I'm leaving in 20 minutes
fair rampart
Here's the Zip
compact sedge
is this graig's mod finally
hazy root
how hard would i be to od playong as a boss sincd you already have the animmations and such
copper nacelle
death
rain cedar
Bosses aren't balanced to be controlled by a player
Even if you made it work perfectly
hazy root
who cares
rain cedar
Everything would feel sluggish because bosses are sluggish
hazy root
itll be fun
copper nacelle
x
ornate rivet
I mean you can try
fossil oxide
hazy root
pale lrker and such
rain cedar
Same
weak lodge
Also depends on what boss you want to control
Cause some bosses can even walk
Plus
Most bosses are too big to navigate through the rooms
rain cedar
Just make one of the knight sized bosses playable
weak lodge
Dung defender can’t walk iirc
rain cedar
yes
hazy root
zote mode 2
compact sedge
hey uh AA you got source code for that mod you posted?
if not is ok
just curious
fair rampart
like the sln?
weak lodge
Angle requires source code for life
compact sedge
like the cs files
weak lodge
Without source code angle can’t exist
compact sedge
did you put em online anywhere
ornate rivet
have to make sure it's not malware 
rain cedar
sln is source code change my mind
fair rampart
this what you wanted?
ornate rivet
if the modinstaller isn't malware, why does my computer say it is?
I prefer to install my mods manually without malware thank you very much
young walrus
Because windows defender is stupid
ornate rivet
young walrus
Defender is more malware than the installer
compact sedge
well ok I uh asked for a particular reason because I wanted to ask if this is intentional. Well I asked for the reason that I think all mods should distribute sourcecode somewhere like github but also because I have a question about one of your methods.
dusky lion
Whenever I see a mod that looks interesting Instead of installing it I manually write the exact same code of the mod just to be sure there's no malware
compact sedge
(don't tell anyone I used dnspy before asking this question)
compact sedge
because it doesn't matter when there's only one file
copper nacelle
I also enjoy having random messages w/ no mod name printed to my console
compact sedge
but uh I'm asking about actual code that impacts gameplay and not quality of code. specifically the before savegame hook. which changes the values of many of the charm costs. I just wanna know if the intent of this is to override charm costs and have these overwritten costs written to the savefile
in essence making it so they apply even when the mod is uninstalled
fair rampart
How would I make it undo?
compact sedge
I could tell you but under one condition
the code I give you to allow you to undo it you are only allowed to use if you make your product open source
it's not my rules, it's the terms of the license of this code
well I guess it is my rules since i picked the license
fair rampart
I don't mind
fair rampart
I have to make a Github account then?
copper nacelle
No
You just have to put it somewhere tm
You could put it on gdrive
with no source control
and just leave a link to it in your mod readme
compact sedge
yeah.. if you wanted, you could literally zip it and put it on gdrive
copper nacelle
and that'd count
fair rampart
Oh, I could just put the cs in the zip?
copper nacelle
You could but don't thanks
ornate rivet
using git commands < zipping files and putting them on gdrive
ornate rivet
I am going to delete my github project just so I can zip and put it on the gdrive instead
compact sedge
@fair rampart having two functions like this that are hooked to these hooks: https://github.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild.cs#L90
ruin charm costs sets the charm costs to whatever you want them to be. restore charm cost sets them to the original value.
Finally to make this work you need to, on both of these hooks:
ModHooks.Instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook
ModHooks.Instance.NewGameHook
call the ruin charm costs function once.
copper nacelle
maggot
compact sedge
basically, what this code does is right before you save restores the original values so the save file has the original values, and right after you save, puts them to what you want. because this will leave your save file having the original values it means that after loading your save file you need to set all the charm costs to what you want them to be, which is why you need to run the code on things like AfterSavegameLoadHook
fair rampart
So, I basically put the stuff I have in before savegame save into after savegame load
compact sedge
yes, and add a new before savegame save function to set all the original correct values
Basically take your function you have to set the notch costs and make it a function that's called manually by all 3 of AfterSavegameLoadHook NewGameHook and SavegameSaveHook (or more elegantly add it as a hook to all 3 of these)
hazy root
what mod is this for?
fair rampart
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_6 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_11 = 3;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_15 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_29 = 4;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_31 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_34 = 4;
if (PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_36)
{
if (PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 3)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_36 = 5;
PlayerData.instance.gotShadeCharm = false;
}
if (PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 4)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_36 = 0;
PlayerData.instance.gotShadeCharm = true;
}
}
if (PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_40)
{
if (PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel == 5)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_40 = 3;
PlayerData.instance.destroyedNightmareLantern = true;
}
if (PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel != 5)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_40 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.destroyedNightmareLantern = false;
}
}
}```so this is how i revert
?
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_6 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_11 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_15 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_29 = 3;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_31 = 1;
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_34 = 3;
if (PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_36)
{
if (PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 3)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_36 = 4;
PlayerData.instance.gotShadeCharm = false;
}
if (PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 4)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_36 = 0;
PlayerData.instance.gotShadeCharm = true;
}
}
if (PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_40)
{
if (PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel == 5)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_40 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.destroyedNightmareLantern = true;
}
if (PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel != 5)
{
PlayerData.instance.charmCost_40 = 2;
PlayerData.instance.destroyedNightmareLantern = false;
}
}
}```why do I need the new game hook?
shouldn't before save and after load be enough?
compact sedge
imagine starting a new game as being the same thing as loading an existing game but instead you're loading a blank template and this template has all the default values set
it probably won't matter since the game usually saves after picking up each charm but better safe than sorry, esp if the player is playing with mods, they might have a mod that gives them charms right at the start
also I would do this imo:
SavegameSaveHook += AfterSave
public void AfterSave(int saveID = 0)
then you don't need to pass a null SaveGameData every time
savegame save hook is also after the game saves but it takes an int instead of a pointer. it's misleading
copper nacelle
like 99.9% sure exaltation got it from lightbringer
which got it from aa
so that's a big think from me
cunning lagoon
damn abyssal alchemist stealing code from himself
compact sedge
this is why keeping your code open is cool cause we can form a big code human centipede
well
code centipede
but spelled correctly
cuz i can't spell
fair rampart
Update 1.0.0.1: fixed charm costs not reverting when mod is uninstalled
cunning lagoon
young walrus
screens
silk jetty
weak lodge
ascended
fair rampart
Who tf calleds them i-screens?
mortal trout
wtf
hazy root
what does charm overhaul do?
weak lodge
i have no idea
mortal trout
overhaul charms
hazy root
😑
cunning lagoon
i cleaned my shit and my cpu still hot af
copper nacelle
Did you re-apply the thermal paste?
cunning lagoon
i dont have thgermal paste
hollow pier
apply toothpaste
copper nacelle
Did your cooler look like this
weak lodge
go buy
cunning lagoon
yea
cunning lagoon
same
copper nacelle
no it's actual garbage
cunning lagoon
not gonna bother too much with it tbh
copper nacelle
get a 212 Evo or cryorig h7
cunning lagoon
im probably just gonna replace the entire thing
copper nacelle
and your performance problems will go away
weak lodge
🔥
hollow pier
56 is older than youtube
copper nacelle
Oh okay
fair rampart
Oh, I don't have permission to add it to the installer, not that I'd be too thrilled with my name being exposed anyway
cunning lagoon
send name 👀
mortal trout
send name or face eternal suffering
silk jetty
show feet
fair rampart
Michigan
mortal trout
where you live
cunning lagoon
nick
silk jetty
abyssal alchemist
dusky lion
travis
fair rampart
no, no
cunning lagoon
damn
dusky lion
your last name is smith
hollow pier
brad
fair rampart
no
mortal trout
bob
cunning lagoon
noah
mortal trout
jim
silk jetty
james
dusky lion
Aristoteles
mortal trout
frank
silk jetty
jeremy
mortal trout
socrates
weak lodge
wolf knight artorias
fair rampart
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
cunning lagoon
statistically one of us has got to be right
silk jetty
kevin
dusky lion
Crispus Attucks
hollow pier
ethan
mortal trout
todd howard
fair rampart
no, no, no
weak lodge
danny devito
dusky lion
Pythagoras of Samos
hollow pier
chris
fair rampart
no
hollow pier
harpreet
silk jetty
@fair rampart 's name is your name
mortal trout
samantha
dusky lion
harvey
weak lodge
half life 3?
mortal trout
chad
fair rampart
Its a common name, so I don't get how you haven't guess it yet
dusky lion
Tomoko Kuroki
mortal trout
bradley
cunning lagoon
jonathan
dusky lion
Tetsuya Takahashi
fair rampart
nope
cunning lagoon
shigeru miyamoto
dusky lion
Soraya Saga
mortal trout
ari
weak lodge
sekiro shadows die twice
fair rampart
I'm not asian
mortal trout
william
cunning lagoon
thats what you want us to think
fair rampart
I am very white
weak lodge
fred
cunning lagoon
yusuf
copper nacelle
very white
hollow pier
wallace
dusky lion
giovanno
mortal trout
rick
dusky lion
i like dogs and hard liquor
weak lodge
richard
copper nacelle
George bush
mortal trout
alucard
mortal trout
absrad is bullshit and rng
cunning lagoon
at this point we have to be running out of names
weak lodge
ronald
mortal trout
logan
dusky lion
i bet we guessed it already
weak lodge
are you from isreal
dusky lion
Liam Noah Oliver Lucas Mason
mortal trout
https://www.behindthename.com/top/lists/united-states-all-ages is it a name from here
cunning lagoon
wesley
mortal trout
david
dusky lion
is it a name from here
dusky lion
or here we dont discriminate
mortal trout
scott
cunning lagoon
gimme a hint dad
weak lodge
wait boy or grill
dusky lion
what letter does it start with
hollow pier
steven
weak lodge
steve from minecraft
cunning lagoon
sans from undertale
dusky lion
sans from deltarune
weak lodge
ness
fair rampart
If I give you the first letter, it won't take long
weak lodge
o kk
weak lodge
knightmere grimmkin from the nightmare realm?
dusky lion
jason
weak lodge
jack
dusky lion
grant
weak lodge
thomas
fair rampart
The first letter is near the middle of the alphabet, I'll give you that
copper nacelle
Tim
fair rampart
How is it subjective?
weak lodge
factorio is 30$
weak lodge
l'mere
fair rampart
N
dusky lion
nathan
fair rampart
ye
weak lodge
😩
fair rampart
told you the first letter would make it really easy
dusky lion
nick
weak lodge
is this nathan from uncharted 4
dusky lion
natasha
cunning lagoon
nathan