#archived-modding-development
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the rekky is definitely beatable, trinomi was a couple milliseconds ahead of me until the breakable floor
i doubt ill get rekky but a 51.1 sounds realistic for me
should i just run against my 106 splits
too lazy to make a layout for this
lmao wtf
what
the door is important
nothing lol i just found funny that you have a door icon
its pretty good
hm?
?mh
@flat forum
yea you should add it to the drive so i can play it 
I kinda wanted to kill the infection with it as well
make it like post-Embrace the Void
and Angle helped and went out and did that because Angle has the big amazing
i agree
56 stream undertale 2
what do you mean by kill the infection with it?
Make it dark-blueish and not pulsing
oh like all infection everywhere?
Yeah
oo
but mainly the Crossroads one
dam that sounds like a lot of work
but its just an aesthetic mod still right?
would be hella cool though
Yeah
it's not gonna change much
like
it's just blue and not pulsing
@compact sedge
Hey
how much of the infection did that mod make Blue?
Does it apply to all infection Bubble/Vine things everywhere?
cuz I designed it as such
A speed run mode that has ghost recordings would be great in this game.
Especially if you could have like a pb ghost, wr ghost and add a friends ghost
like .6-.7 seconds i think
Hey
oh nice
i thought it would be more like a second or something
use DD
xero said its .76
yea foldy you can use descending dark to desolate dive on dung defender to interrupt his intro
pretty good speed strat
nice
dude i just had to include all the dd's
understandable
oh also can you actually kill nosk before he spawns
like mawlek
i havent been able to actually kill him
with like full soul vessels and overcharmed spell twister you could
but realistically, in the run no
alright
i overcharmed spell twister for that split for a bit after we found the nosk thing
but gave up after i lost a run to it
but yea technically doing that there would be worth

yea just kinda have to find the spot where they all go on him
lol who cares dlkurosh did it first
u
i hear the guy did it nail only too
i was trying it nail only
what a god
and then got annoyed
and then tried a spell build and got it 2nd try
shade soul is balanced
he probably used charms too lol
why doesn't he do it the hard way like everyone else
this reminds me
infinite grimm when
wow i hate king's pass now
infi grimm 
yea kp has a lot of rng
gotta get good positioning from both mosquitoes and then soft fall
just superslide
actually i already hated it before
i hate it even more now
feel like getting a good fall is the hardest fucking thing
ok fuck this ill just do runs
lul
i think best i got by just grinding it was 51.10
then i just randomly got the 50.97 in a run
i was so fucking surprised lol
yeah its kinda fucking insane
also you said something like "i doubt we'll see any other 50s" a few days back
actually was it you
cant remember
no wasnt me
i know someone said it
cant find it
same 
it was pretty cool how soon after trinomis 98 i got it too
you got it by 1 ms?
10 ms
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
shhh
yea i cant find it
i know someone said something along the lines of its unlikely that we'll see another 50
well "see 50" gives nothing
lol
also is this the right vine?
ya
find the right spot to inv drop there and youll land on a big platform
with a gap in the middle
then you can dash to the right of that and inv drop straight to the ground
damn thats infinitely better than what i was doing
what were you doing lol
just kinda hugging the right wall trying not to bump into anything

also is the birthplace climbing thing the same as the normal abyss climb?
if that makes sense
because i want to practice but i dont feel like going through the stupid cutscene every time
yea i see
when is ush abyss climb
i dont think thats faster for birthplace 
theres some extra platforms in the void heart climb
you can put a dgate there with debug
and redo it

secret practice strats
my pb climb is probably outdated you should check skurrys or something
i think he does a pretty similar one as i do rn
hey i finally killed ornstein and smough
it's fun that solaire will sometimes just start humping the fog wall when he's supposed to be helping, good videogame
O&S kept having me thinking about how much better a dual boss the Mantis Lords are
Dual boss fights are okay, thing is O&S got dogshit mechanics
And arent enjoyable to fight
The secret is to follow the crapplemage route first playthrough
Then everything is easy
you know that thing i mentioned about having fixed my lag
it was not true
game is still unplayable ๐
56 streAM
no
no
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:rag:
cedilla
have you monstah's wr?
Thanks! โฅ ๐
qga
soul sanctum
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where is 2d on this table
I typo'd ok
I only like 2d waifus
3d and above is ๐ค
not even 5d ugguu waifus are you for real
5d is just wannabe 6d
truuuuuuuuuuuu
tf is that section of like 8 spaces
anyone who names themselves after an equation, constant, law or wtv is a massive wanker /s
anyone who names themselves after a food is an idiot
anyone whos kuro is an idiot
and excuse me
coupon bug dot com is a respected distributor of online coupons to the us consumers and it isnt even a food you dungo
how is nnn going
Lool
ill stream bad rats for you
That's not what I meant xD
gn
I guess top one is too shiny and doesn't match it good
You are cheeto
if you say so
who says o
u
๐ณ๏ธโ๐ mod
I see
rainbow mod 
No problem kuro
xD
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no
I think
is from Hollow Knight server
@copper nacelle fix invert knight
no i only have joy and joy_cat
no
but when is ngg
where is the problem
what problem
i saw a guy killing 1500 zotes... a little more impressive than this
yea idc
co
didn't someone get 4.5k
no vid no did
a whole hour long person wow
p
i mean you can be 1 hour long
but its a small measurement
so we use years now
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i only have 7
that's 5 more than i dfo
thats 3 more than i do
nicename

kinda garbage name if you ask me but
they sell deep fried everything in the us
this is not joy

oh boi it has this 
no
yo i joined the server why dont i have the emotes here
๐ข
๐ข
lmao my ass off
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56 sucks because he doesnt stream 
huh
hey hey i have no idea why elegy has a fucking higher dam then the nail
supposed to be 0.75 damage only
so 21 * 0.75 = 32
yes i graduated from kidnregarten
i even got a star on stamped on my arm /s
autism 
but real shit no idea
i don't know sorry
Elegy
fstr pure is 32 yes
10.5 right
Yeah
9 months
yea thats def good enough
yeah noclip and hold up
its hard to tell whats optimal cause theres so many paths and its dark
but it looks good
sick
im surprised the spikes hitbox didnt decide to fuck you over
they are fairly lenient
kuro whats your direction buttons again?
wasd
no that's me 
i use wasd for movement and numpad for everything else
:thinkink
cant edit because i have livesplit open
same but opposite
i actually just play controller xDD
ew
but u gotta listen to birthplace music tho
i use arrows
i use default controls
where's the fun in going slowly
my layout for like everything is arrows zxc surrounding keys
arr
ws
u get to hear the music and cry
terraria i play wasd
tbh id prefer wasd
but not spacebar
but cant find a good bind
i'd be beyond impressed if you used arrows for terraria
not if you are left handed
no then you just have better movement and still do the same thing
wait left handed use mouse with left hand?
whjat
i think some of us do
im a lefty but i use mouse with my right hand
because using it with my left hand is kinda stupid
yea
do u play fps games?
not really
ew lefty
lefties rise up
dansgame
oppress lefties

DLK
uhh yes? 
U amazing
you too
can't get a 23 birthplace 
at least now it wont take me a minute like in my pb 
actually nvm i got a 23 i just stopped the timer too late
birthplace il
fallopian tube%
Need a separate rule set for the filthy glitchers who use c-sections
actual time was 23.89 i just stopped the timer too late poggers
now im really not sure how to improve it
go faster
i added a dash somewhere in the middle and i stopped pogoing the last destructible object
really have no clue how to optimize it more
so that's probably what i'll start doing in runs
I'm not gonna lie, I literally thought this WAS speedrunning for a while
u cant talk in speedrunning channels 
I was just lurking and staying quiet because I don't do anything with speed
i get sick if i go to other channels and i only start feeling better when i come back to modding
it's a disease
That's probably because it's a tighter circle of people who all kinda know each other to some degree
or people posting shitty jokes 24/7
probably
To be quite honest I think Discussion is full of more meaningful discussion on the whole. I know it sucks and is full of those dirty people who aren't great at the game god forbid, but it's a cool place.
Also no I haven't slept today so I'm a bit off-ish
i think the main idea is, as long as you dont go to lore its ok
this tbh
lol no
i dont hate #hk-lore i just don't care about the lore of the game
so i don't visit the channel
but i don't think there's anything wrong with having a channel dedicated for that because i know there are people who do care
#hk-lore had to be made to divert all "hornet is void" discussions into an isolated hate sink
they keep doing repeated jokes
The only thing I dislike about lore is some people take it WAY too seriously
i guy told me that lifeblood masks near mantis lords means mantises are related to lifebloods
i was like wtf
I get caring about the story and world, but when it veers off into complete fanon BS to justify things TC didn't think too hard about for gameplay reasons, I think it kinda loses its way
it's no longer really about the game at that point so much as it is who can shout their theory louder than everyone else.
THK and Broken Vessel being bigger than other vessels is probably nothing more complicated than they are bosses and need to look somewhat intimidating to put over that they're boss fights. But you have people digging deep and connecting dots as if there's some grand plan and conspiracy behind it, that TC had it all explained somewhere.
or theyre just plotholes, but who cares game is good enough
i mean thats ONE advantage of HK being "oh we cant tell you everything"
I think broken vessel can be chalked up to hitbox fudging but THK is fucking huge and there is an actual explanation for it
isnt bv smol
THK being huge is never explained tho
^
BV's big by vessel standards, and again I'm pretty sure it's because "he's a boss."
mick dont say that or they'll write a 10000 word essay on why thk is big
but yeah, that's what I mean. Lorebois go way too deep sometimes
you can make arguments for THK being big and why that is, but there's no "right" answer
far past what seems reasonable to me
I mean vessels do grow
I mean the PV journal entry kinda just says PK raised him and made him swole
didnt they give the answers to that in godmaster
THK's hunter journal
why thk is big
the theory was always "there was a alot of time between the creation and containment of rad", then they made the cot statue afterwards, but doesnt explain why the other vessels remained small, random shit like that
if thk grew because of the sunny d, then how would they know he was big when they made the statue afterwards
pv entry says he was raised and trained to be able to contain radiance
now stop giving theories
he was fed milk
a lot of milk
"fully grown vessel" does not mean that he's big b/c of that
the MC could be "fully grown"
b/c "fully grown" is not defined
we're lore now 
#archived-modding-development is just anything it wants to be, we've been over this
maybe thats why its called modding
we "modify" ourselves to take shapes of other channels
just like nosk
๐ค
wokest
hey simo can you rename modding into nosk thanks
Any reason why my code that swaps between CM & GC or KS & VH is only working for KS & VH?
cuz can't figure out why
I posted the snippet on Discord last night, if you just search the word "transmuted" it should come up
oh shit, Simo's watching us
is it actually a bad thing that there are offtopic conversations when no modding talk is happening though ๐ค
obviously you guys just need to force 56 to make mods faster
so you're always on topic
how are you swapping melody and grimmchild, AAA?
IMO, no. Discussion works on the same sort of unspoken rule. If it's dead air anyway, chatter is fine. ...Just don't hijack it.
this tbh
well you can always throw jargon kuro, just complain about fsms
better ask 56 or AA directly for that tbh, then again they were the one who were helping you with the mod earlier
just ping them
think 56 is asleep atm but just @copper nacelle
Why is 56 a cheeto?
he just is
oh that might be it
does this have to do with those orange Mantis Gods?
are you sure that you're running the checks when you should? Like, does the healthManager.hp ever reach 0?
I put it at <= 0 because sometimes his hp goes below 0
I think part of the issue might be how his stagger is handled?
Because his stagger is technically a separate enemy (RealBat)
@cunning lagoon jeez i wonder who

nice charms, try again
Honestly, MonStahLer is much more talented than DLKurosh. His time is absolute perfection with his loadout, and DLKurosh only beat him because he used a cheap timesave to take a record which is really just so unethical. This is a message to DLKurosh: beat MonStahLer with his charms, his build and your skill. Stop using cheaty tactics to sully what he's done for the community. Just disgusting imho honestly imo afaik iirc.
same
any bored in math
do it on the same day of the year too
also his time isnt perfect even with his loadout i mean what
is this an actual circulating copy pasta or is it just a spicy ptk oc
hot content from the 41 master himself
also prof gave us 20 minutes to do 4 questions
very bored
pr
f
any make two minutes go faster
use sharp shadow
no that's a cheap technique
d
uble team
sp
re
Use sharp gradow
that's just regular gradow
Use blunt gradow
Huh, making Fury immediately proc when Overcharmed was easier than I thought it would be.
{
if (PlayerData.instance.overcharmed)
{
PlayerData.instance.maxHealth = 1;
PlayerData.instance.health = 1;
GameObject gameObject2 = GameObject.Find("Charm Effects");
if (gameObject != null)
{
gameObject2.LocateMyFSM("Fury").Fsm.SendEventToFsmOnGameObject(gameObject2, "Fury", "HERO DAMAGED");
}
}
}```
Nice
The only problem is the effect breaks the next time you sit on a bench
wait, why are you making fury work overchamed, now?
Or, if you actually care about quality, check the fsm state
Was fury considered bad?
Its just making it so Fury works with Lifeblood Heart/Lifeblood Core
@cunning lagoon asleep at 11:02 am 
And by limiting MaxHp to 1, it means you can't heal
i think fury is more of a case of being niche than bad tbh
its just a dumb charm that doesn't solve the problem it should
You think i fuckon check the time it is in your dumbass timezone
But ww have like 2
Because there are so.e stupid islands and they are like an hour ahead
Or behind
I Cant remember
Wait, why does GrimmChild Upgrades detect killedNightmareGrimm instead of grimmChildLevel?
I was wondering that, since the only way I can get Carefree Melody to be 1 notch, was to set killedNightmareGrimm to false when at grimmChildLevel 5
So GrimmChild Upgrades is the reason Carefree Melody is locked at 2 notches
he said
Runtime detour grimmchild upgrades using reflection
just give yourself extra notches based on carefree melodies cost xD
420iq
get the method using reflection
get the type using Type.GetType
then make a new hook
Why i'm dogshit and can't make binding 
I think the problem is that the health is 5 instead of 4
just go to maxHP and make it 4
Nah
Just as i wanted to do 5th binding but it turned out bad i think
Probably last challenge i'm gonna do with Radiant bosses
you can realistically beat traitor lord and abs rad without dashing if soul binding isn't factored in
but it is
Yeah, dash binding seems like a bad idea
the only way you could dodge would be DDive/DDark
maybe that will fix it
It's "No Abilities"
gay
Traitor Lord would screw you
All of the Radiant Bosses (43 - except Absolute Radiance) from Hollow Knight: Godmaster on initial release version before nerfs, defeated without taking any ...
Traitor Lord can do his ground slam multiple times in a row
nice weeb title
soul binding only allows for 1 DDark
RNG simulator
shoulda added no damage
aeroloth there is a line between challenging and not binding
I believe Traitor can't do ground slam if you are close to it
ye
He does, if you follow him he still can't do it from what i seen.
As he needs minimal distance between pc and him
Actually nope
pc and him?
eat noodles
I was too busy trying to figure out why Sharp Shadow was giving me max Soul the moment it hit any collider
It was only supposed to give me 8 when I hit an enemy
did u figure it out?
sounds like a feature to me
I haven't figured it out yet, no
pfp?
profile picture
poop flavored popsicle
if you wanna be extra memey use one of my old discord profile pictures
and change your name to AA
and I'll do so as well
I'm back
u look like an edgy weeb
Its from Wizard of Legend
u
Not really a Sonic fan
if you kiss a girl you're basically kissing all the men they kissed before
and thats hella gay
thats why I only kiss men
Don't watch much TV, Anime, movies, etc in general
but sonic is a game ๐ค
Yes, its also an anime
But I don't like the games either
I like watching people suffer through them though
Because the amount of glitches in those games is amazing
aren't the sonic cartoons made by westerns, in a western style, for westerners
don't think they are anime
There are sonic cartoons, and anime
Sonic Boom is a cartoon, Sonic X is an anime
honestly even if it wasnโt, the sonic fanbase is so insane, itโs basically an anime now
even if they patched it, Knuckles jumping to infinity is one of the stupidest glitches I've ever seen
they should make a sonic battle royale tbh
see who can survive the longest without glitching
Well, they could either infinity jump with Knuckles(Sonic Boom), or go into hyperspace after jumping on a mechanical unicorn(sonic 06)
Or loop-d-loop backwards(Sonic Adventure), that works too
Is Death's Gambit a Sonic game? There are a lot of glitches in that
ok stop
nah its too slow
u right
and sonic doesn't have complete invinciblity all the time as a glitch
ye Sonic has 'hit button to slam into enemy until they die'
which is usually 1 or 2 hits
so uh
I'm trying out streaming on mixer now
@copper nacelle if ur there I need ur thoughts on this exciting stream: https://mixer.com/Avenging_Angle
nice
Streaming on mixer wtf
only the highest quality of content
it turned into a japanese character
and since I have one monitor you can watch me type on discord
slowly
alright uh ima quit discord and leave this stream running I guess
or actually lemme get a second monitor that's a good idea
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anyway I'm using mixer bc the content is way too high quality for twitch
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I mean just look at the high quality high effort content

56 send server with that emote
that's a good emote incidentally
ok now this is epic
Tbh we still need a mod which replaces the faces of all npc, enemy and boss sprites with ๐ฉ
Skins? HK lootboxes when?
we need more skins recolors of our knight
I mean you could still apply a random color to the sprite sheet every so often
If the proper area is a unique changeable color
Or just have multiple spritesheets and swap them out for better performance
Nah swapping the spritesheets at runtime should be pretty easy
I mean that's what any mod that changes spritesheets already does
hmm, would the performance hit be noticable?
Actually probably not
since fsm's alone are probably worse lol
There would be a noticeable increase in load time and memory usage
But I don't think you would see any drops in fps while actually playing
make the knight wear a suit
@ornate rivet
hedrak comment section
You where referring to me or is someone actually working on Watcher gods? Cause if you where donโt mind me but all those are just plausible concepts
I was referring to you
I thought you were making it no?
or was it just a meme and I am a dungo
@weak lodge
no not a meme
Just donโt have the um
Motivation
to make a mod rn
so just doing concepts
I learnt a little a few weeks ago
ok
@copper nacelle stream
@cheeto stream
@hollow pier stream
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sure

oh yeah i was supposed to remind you to stream
It's ok I forgive you
i forgot
Me too
bluepr looks much better
Thanks
lol just do PoP instead
is this a mod?
ax get on it
@thin perch What is?

is it a mod
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amazing
@cunning lagoon https://youtu.be/hltI-O0O3j0
i suck slightly less at my own bosses now

ty
np
whats with the blob tho
wdym
u are a blob
no wait nvm they just look weird at low res
Smooth as hell
thanks
oh wait this one is even better
someone was talking about that in #speedrunning just a bit ago
i think it was ax
yes
did you die to him
no but you see how im -35.5 seconds ahead at soul tyrant despite getting the invisible tyrant bug
worst part of White Def is when he throws the dung balls but his arms has hitboxes so you get hit by them
it went to -7 after dd
that or the balls just have a massive fucking hitbox too
like he's actually the worst boss in the game
flukemarm ๐ค
not even kidding
nope
flukemarm is better
dung defender is straight up the worst

hey, Khan!
im actually way too fucking angry at this right now
it's so unfair it's not even funny
Hm
what are you doing
Is there a mod showing where different Hitboxes are?
make it past city of lags, lag sanctum, rng sanctum, soul warrior softlock, invisible tyrant
and almost die to bs dung defender hitboxes
isnt there like a debug collider component
and you can't really afford to take extra hits on the fight so that just adds salt to the wound
because you ahve the spike tunnel and 2 acid skips after that
thankfully i got everthing first try
but yeah dung defender is the worst boss in the game
and i just had to vent for a bit
putt putt saves the zoo? legit theres a speedrun for that
I only remember I had found a neat little to enter one room from the side instead of from above
by exploding your way in
kurosh stream undertale 2
pat pat
oh good job
next time maybe
then dont equip fury then lmao /s
i swear im gonna end up ditching this garbage game and running celeste
56
playing at 1 fucking fps from city of tears to fucking anciet basin
did you play undertale 2
no
56 stream deltarune
u
wait did you play undertale
but if you leave hk then what would happen if papers steals your pop wr
i played part of it
56 stream undertale
A
Q on the keyboard if you use the superior control scheme
no
kb or death
oh i figured out why lost lord breaks broken vessel
Z jump X attack C Dash
why
QWEASD for the stuff, 8456 for the movement
it changes tk2dspriteanimator library clips and changing the library affects all animators which use that library
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