archived-modding-development

[summer badge]

wait dude i already had the api referenced

assembly--csharp that's the one yeah?

the 1.4.2.4 version

[solemn rivet]

that could be the vanilly assembly

if you're sure that's the api

add using Modding;

[summer badge]

already did

[solemn rivet]

show code

[summer badge]

modhooks lights up and tab completion works

[solemn rivet]

wait

well, then just use the hooks

[hollow pier]

show code and booleans

[solemn rivet]

so

you probably want to make sure the knight's speed is that a all times

so start typing ModHooks.instance.HeroUpdateHook +=

and let it auto-complete

[summer badge]

i got rid of the if and just made the run speed standard

[solemn rivet]

ok, so now take all of your previous code, remove it from Initialize and put it in the new method you just created

by doing ModHooks.instance.HeroUpdateHook += Instance_HeroUpdateHook; you're basically telling the game "whenever the knight is updated, run the method Instance_HeroUpdateHook"

and then, since you put your code inside that method, it'll do whatever you tell it to

[summer badge]

good?

[solemn rivet]

Looks like it

Now compile it, add it to the mods folder and run the game

[summer badge]

i plan on adding more to the mod later too, should i copy it and make a separate version to compile

[solemn rivet]

Wdym

Compiling won't get rid of that file, if that's what you're asking

[summer badge]

idk its just kind of annoying to decompile

am i actually able to compile on visual studio?

[compact sedge]

idk what you're trying to do but yes

[summer badge]

how cause i cant find it

[compact sedge]

well uh when you make a mod you need to do a .net 3.5 DLL

not a c# application

and then there's a build button that will be where the start button is

the start button compiles it and runs it but if it's an application it won't run

[summer badge]

ik it needs to be a .net 3.5 dll but build isn't making that happen

im not exactly experienced with visual studio and compiling in general

when i hit build it makes a .exe not a .dll

[cunning lagoon]

just build lool

[solemn rivet]

close what you're doing

create a new project

make this project a library

add the references to the new project

add the .cs to the new project

done

[summer badge]

add the .cs to the new project?

hao

[solemn rivet]

project, add class

something like that

[summer badge]

when i try to add the class, it tries to make me add a blank class

[solemn rivet]

Add Existing Item

try that

and remove any other classes from the project

[summer badge]

alright

[solemn rivet]

now you can compile it into a dll right?

[summer badge]

got it

i did it

now i gotta test it

[solemn rivet]

gl!

[summer badge]

it works

thanks so much for the help!

i honestly wouldn't be anywhere close to this if it weren't for you, so thanks a million

i'll need to figure out how to add a version number to it

right now the version number is showing up as unknown in hollow knight

[compact sedge]

there's an overridable function for the version string

[summer badge]

when i edit the actual mod (to add the version number) do i need to recompile?

[compact sedge]

to see the results yes

you can add in the post build events a thing to automatically copy the dll to your mods folder

[summer badge]

awesome i got the version number in there

thanks a lot guys

i gotta sign off for now

[fair rampart]

o7

[viral tendon]

So like

is it possible to remove a mod you manually installed with the mod manager?

[fair rampart]

mhm

just head to hollow_knight_Data/managed/Mods and delete the dll for it

[viral tendon]

oh

thanks

[fair rampart]

ye

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle what program do you use for fsm viewing again?

[copper nacelle]

nes' fsm viewer

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410556310787063828/484837002051846145/Release.zip

[fair rampart]

whomstve is nes

[copper nacelle]

@ nes#3391

[cunning lagoon]

Nintendo Entertainment System

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

oh good deal

I was googling for a while and couldn't find anything that might help so

thank

is it me or like

are all of the tools the hollow knight mod community uses also developed by the hollow knight mod community

[copper nacelle]

UABE/Unity studio i guess aren't

[fair rampart]

true, plus dnspy

[copper nacelle]

also visual studio ¯_(ツ)_/¯

but like the fsm viewer and stuff are

[fair rampart]

would I use this to open assembly-csharp, or some other file where all the fsms are hiding

[copper nacelle]

*.assets

resources.assets has the knight's stuff

[fair rampart]

that speeds things up

[copper nacelle]

yes

[fair rampart]

hacker voice I'M IN

Health->Hive Health Regen
Charm Effects->Hatchling Spawn->Soul Cost(8)

using this as a value dump don't mind me

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

hey so is anyone going to sawcon this year?

[fair rampart]

so this should theoretically set the soul cost of hatchlings to blah if I wanted to do that correct?

also ?sawcon?

[copper nacelle]

whatmst

if that's a variable that doesn't get reset within the fsm yeah

but like half the fsm vars say fuck you and get set again anyways

[fair rampart]

what if i call it every frame

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

[copper nacelle]

no

don't do that

❌

read the rest of the fsm and just make sure it doesn't get reset

biggest think

[cunning lagoon]

sawcon deez nuts lmao

[fair rampart]

jasdf

die dl die

[cunning lagoon]

i wish

[fair rampart]

the Soul Cost int is only mentioned in that one spot

[copper nacelle]

are u sure

[fair rampart]

but it seems like it takes a flat 8 soul anyway when it spawns the hatchling

?????

[copper nacelle]

whatmst

show

[fair rampart]

can hatch:

hatch:

really makes you think

[copper nacelle]

change the function call

biggest think

[fair rampart]

literally no idea how to do that but I'm sure I can figure it out

i'm about to make a big mistake

[copper nacelle]

yes

no you've already made it

you touched the fsm

[cunning lagoon]

no

its all gonna be ok

[copper nacelle]

now you die

become one with the fsm.Fsm.States.First(x => x.name == "Hatch").Actions.First(x => x is SendMessage).functionCall or whatever

[fair rampart]

is that literally an incantation

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

make a sugandese var

[copper nacelle]

.

[cunning lagoon]

.

[fair rampart]

yES

MY PRETTIES

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

behold my infinite army

[copper nacelle]

not setting the soul cost to 0

why

[cunning lagoon]

set it to -1

[fair rampart]

still working that out

I wanted to make them spawn superfast too but it seems like that's not possible

[cunning lagoon]

gain soul by wasting notches on that trash

[copper nacelle]

xhuis have u tried

eating waits

or even just replacing them with next frame events

[fair rampart]

can't say i have

[exotic venture]

500 hatchlings vs glorious comrade when

[copper nacelle]

:cornywoker:

that's cornywokest

[fair rampart]

pow https://i.imgur.com/IivJVZo.png

takeMP isn't showing as recognized tho

[copper nacelle]

stop no why

[fair rampart]

what

[copper nacelle]

did you actually copy what i said

can u like

not do that

[fair rampart]

i have literally no knowledge of c#

[copper nacelle]

eeee

[fair rampart]

except what google says

🙃

[copper nacelle]

literally made/modified fsm extensions for a reason

eeeee

they're in modcommon

reee

also use enums when

e

[cunning lagoon]

🅱

[copper nacelle]

no

\🅱

\🇨

[cunning lagoon]

Damn

coward

[copper nacelle]

\🇨 \🇴 \🇼 \🇦 \🇷 \🇩

[summer badge]

which modhook is for super dash

[copper nacelle]

there isn't one

F S M

[summer badge]

oof

[copper nacelle]

🇨 🇩🇦🇸 🇭

[summer badge]

cdash?

wut

[copper nacelle]

yes

[fair rampart]

now to figure out what a glorified glowing womb sprite would look like

[summer badge]

wdym cdash

[copper nacelle]

kurosh meme

[summer badge]

is it actually possible for me to edit super dash

[cunning lagoon]

oof oof thats a yikes from me dawg

+3 to charisma

[copper nacelle]

yeah it is

modify the fsm

or entirely re-code it like gradow did

[summer badge]

fsm?

[cunning lagoon]

finite state machine

😎

[summer badge]

i have no idea how to do that

[copper nacelle]

ask xhuis ez

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

cursed image

also later 56

jokes aside I AM pretty happy with how it came out

normal version for reference

[copper nacelle]

make the eyes primal aspid shots

[copper nacelle]

@summer badge https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Lost-Lord/blob/master/LostLord/Kin.cs

do this but with the superdash fsm

[summer badge]

alright

thanks

[copper nacelle]

or recode it to not use an fsm

be gradow

[tranquil glen]

hlep why does enter work on some menus but not others

[copper nacelle]

cause tc is very good at code

[cunning lagoon]

@ wilbo#2948

[tranquil glen]

like i can choose what stag station to travel to but i can't sell stuff to lemm

[copper nacelle]

<@&327844709244469261>

[cunning lagoon]

[tranquil glen]

It works for those big text boxes where you have to press the button once at the end but not normal text

[fair rampart]

let's see just how many hatchlings I can spawn

[tranquil glen]

and not equipping charms

[fair rampart]

[copper nacelle]

there's probably a cap in the fsm so kill that

violently

[fair rampart]

AHHHHH

[copper nacelle]

nice

[copper nacelle]

now go fight radiant gruz mother with that

[copper nacelle]

also set soul use to 0 when

[fair rampart]

its at 1

[copper nacelle]

spawn time /= 10

[fair rampart]

i fell into spikes

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

spawn time is currently at 0.25f down from 4

[copper nacelle]

0.0001f

thank

or just remove the wait

[fair rampart]

i physically can't see anything because of all the particles and hatchlings

[copper nacelle]

go do pan5

with this

[fair rampart]

i know what i must do

[copper nacelle]

mfw

[fair rampart]

FLY MY PRETTIES

https://i.imgur.com/kRV0SQI.gifv

lemme get a better gif

mfw file too big

okay think I got one

nope

gdi sharex it's literally a 3 second gif

gfycat it is

https://gfycat.com/MarvelousTastyCony

https://gfycat.com/TenderShamelessDrongo

this is peak hollow knight

is there a way to change the sprites to dollar bills

that way I can record myself fighting the comrade and name it Fall of the Soviet Union to Capitalism (1970 colorized)

[copper nacelle]

yes

same basic idea as the charms

[summer badge]

it's come to my attention that jump_speed isn't actually how fast you move in the air

at least not horizontally

[copper nacelle]

you'd have to set the texture on the material on the tk2d sprite definition on the tk2d sprite on the go

they share material tho

so you'd only have to set it once

[fair rampart]

nice

[copper nacelle]

nice sometimes but annoying other times

[fair rampart]

i'd like to add more weaverlings to the weaverling charm but it seems like the spawn command is literally "run the same thing three independent times" so

[copper nacelle]

dupe them

dungo

[fair rampart]

heck u

[copper nacelle]

your mother

[fair rampart]

ur family tree lgbt

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

ur ancestors incestors

oh taco already made that

@floral furnace your help is needed

[cunning lagoon]

wow ur ancestors incestors is good

i hadn't heard that one before

[clear turtle]

there's a whole list of these

[cloud olive]

ur grandpap a trap

[clear turtle]

ur family reunion a homosexual communion

[summer badge]

how do i edit mid-air speed

i cant find it in the speed autofill

cause i wanna make my speed when i jump as fast as my running speed

[fair rampart]

your guess is as good as mine

[copper nacelle]

no u

check Hero controller's move

[summer badge]

i looked through hero controller's options and can't find it

[copper nacelle]

[summer badge]

i feel like it would be called air strafe speed or something but

[copper nacelle]

u ever just

dnspy is your friend

[cunning lagoon]

what if you play kb instead of controller

[copper nacelle]

[summer badge]

wdym check hero controller's move

i dont understand D:

[copper nacelle]

decompile it

ē

[summer badge]

oh

big oof

[copper nacelle]

dnSpy

[cunning lagoon]

è

[copper nacelle]

is your friend

[summer badge]

dotPeek

ez win

[copper nacelle]

no

ech

[summer badge]

;-;

[copper nacelle]

dotPeek < dnSpy imo but ok

[summer badge]

if it doesn't work ill try dnspy

[copper nacelle]

does dot peek have an IL mode

[summer badge]

cant even find herocontroller to decompile it

[copper nacelle]

Assembly-CSharp.dll

[summer badge]

oof

[cinder bone]

New to discord and HK modding

What is the current compatibility status of the mods in the drive regarding other mods and the current version of the game?

also, is there a coop mod other than dreamshield?

[summer badge]

what do you mean coop mod

look at pinned posts and download the ModInstaller, that'll make it easier for you

[fair rampart]

@cinder bone there is no co-op mod, no
all mods are technically compatible but will likely result in a lot of errors if they modify the same things

lightbringer modifies charms, so don't use exaltation which also modifies charms, etc

[cinder bone]

ok

[summer badge]

don't use the extra saves mod

it'll corrupt all your current saves

at least, they're corrupted while it's installed

[cinder bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOt-CLCuJUY

I am completely aware the trailer is a meme, but is the multiplayer in that just editing then?

[hollow pier]

maby pvp mode

[cunning lagoon]

[summer badge]

team berry

yeah it's just editing

lmao

[hollow pier]

double rad actually looks cool

when is double absrad

with kdt beam patterns

[summer badge]

i'm sure it's not all that hard to mod

[cinder bone]

For the dreamshield mod, how does that work?

is it online or lan/ parsec connection

[fair rampart]

I believe it's just same-machine coop

with arrow keys controlling the dreamshield? I may be wrong

[cunning lagoon]

lma0 what if i use arrow keys to MOVE

[fair rampart]

then u got pranked

but yes dreamshield coop has no online integration or even lan

it's just two people using the same machine

[cunning lagoon]

nor does it work on 1424

[fair rampart]

modding hollow knight to have coop is likely extremely improbable and you shouldn't listen to anyone who says otherwise unless they've messed with the code and know what they're talking about

[cinder bone]

parsec wll work with that then

but if its incompatible then I guess im fucked lmao

thanks for the info

[fair rampart]

a game that is not natively written for multiplayer is very difficult to implement multiplayer with in a graceful way

[cinder bone]

jc2

[fair rampart]

theoretically it would be possible to get a player from somewhere else with an extension to the code and place its object in but it would require a lot of hacking and probably issues

[cinder bone]

it would be a project to be sure

[fair rampart]

jc2 took years to make multiplayer-compatible and it's also not getting constant updates that change the way the code functions anymore

[cinder bone]

it isnt getting updates because jc3 exists

[fair rampart]

I have to go to work so I can't continue the discussion but full multiplayer is probably not doable; perhaps localized per-scene is doable, but

and if someone were to set up a proper system than dark souls-style messages or ghosts might be possible

[solemn rivet]

okay, I got some free time to kill today

[hollow pier]

Gradow!

[solemn rivet]

back to work on blackmoth or nah?

nah it is then

back to watching teens playing fortnite on YT

[compact sedge]

me_irl

[jovial echo]

GUYS 753 IS A COMPUTER, IS HOW HE MAKES GOOD MODS! BAN HIM FOR HOLDING THIS CRUCIAL INFO!

SPREAD NEWS

Discuss.

[cunning lagoon]

[jovial echo]

yes indeed

[fair carbon]

are the randomizer (enemys&charms) mods working with the gods&glory update?

[young walrus]

Enemy, sort of. Items, no

[kindred nest]

Is anybody familiar with a mod that disables the depth-of-field blur on Hollow Knight's backgrounds

I heard there was a thing like that for previous patches

I'm really curious to see what that looked like

[fair rampart]

why would you want to do that

depth of field is pretty

[compact sedge]

depth of field is a copout that the game designers use to avoid making high quality backgrounds

[solemn rivet]

^

[cunning lagoon]

are you saying hk has shitty art 😡

i'm telling ari

[compact sedge]

well they definitely "cheat" whenever possible to reduce the amount of work needed.

[hollow pier]

oh so like the subreddit and p5

[solemn rivet]

and #archived-modding-help

[cunning lagoon]

i'm surprised that the p5 achievement is still at 0.3%

[compact sedge]

I'm surprised it ever made it to 0.3%

[cunning lagoon]

although steel heart is at 0.8%

[compact sedge]

the NKG ending only had around 2% even as late as the release of lifeblood

[cunning lagoon]

so yeah now that you mention it even 0.3% seems high

[compact sedge]

there's one million people who own the game on steam and so I'd expect based on other stats about 70% of that to have opened the game at least once.

so probably that's 700,000 people who have played HK that steam is tracking achievements for

which I guess means ~2000 people have gotten embrace the void

[hollow pier]

wow so i'm one of 100 people who did it without debug

[vapid cape]

Or just SAM.

[leaden hedge]

why cheat when you could just git gud 🤔

[hollow pier]

kdt when is absrad meme beam patterns

[leaden hedge]

a wednesday

[copper nacelle]

@summer badge https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Sonic

[summer badge]

thanks

[fair rampart]

@solemn rivet did you see hatchling hell

[solemn rivet]

wut

what's that

[cunning lagoon]

so you didn't see it 😡

[solemn rivet]

no I didn't

so wut

wanna fit m8

[cunning lagoon]

Ok I am sorry

[hollow pier]

Gradow!!

[solemn rivet]

[copper nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/491695333810634765/unknown.png
https://gfycat.com/TenderShamelessDrongo

[fair rampart]

that yeah

[hexed swan]

good

[solemn rivet]

I don't see how it is hell

seems like heaven for me

[hollow pier]

lol is this pvp mode

[solemn rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair rampart]

https://gfycat.com/MarvelousTastyCony

[subtle rapids]

is anyone making a pvp mod?

[solemn rivet]

u

[cunning lagoon]

maby

[hollow pier]

i was dissapointed by this response

[hazy sentinel]

make hatchling damage scale with number of alive hatchlings

[leaden hedge]

up or down

[fair rampart]

yes

[leaden hedge]

so both

scale damage up and down with number of hatchlings

[hollow pier]

your mom likes both

[subtle rapids]

up

[leaden hedge]

ur mum gay

[fair rampart]

also it seems like the hit-per-second cap is ignored for hatchlings

so this massive swarm of 100 hatchlings just slammed into absrad and instantly sent her from p2 to p3

[leaden hedge]

its probably coded similar to fluke / defenders crest

[cunning lagoon]

that's a lie absrad is only on p5 and hog

[fair rampart]

phase 2 to phase 3 u doofus

[leaden hedge]

in which it triggers the delay but ignores it for doing its own damage iirc

[cunning lagoon]

Oh I see

[hazy sentinel]

Thanks! ❤

[fair rampart]

I also made this sprite for the glorified womb

now you have a primal aspid with you everywhere you go

[cunning lagoon]

ok i guess i also hate veru now

[hazy sentinel]

no idea what that's even referencing

tbh

[hollow pier]

you massive cunt

it's his youtube duh

[hazy sentinel]

payday 2 the diamond

[cunning lagoon]

also did i send this

https://i.imgur.com/Az6Acsp.gifv

i've been trying to get 5 hits but i don't think it's possible

[hazy sentinel]

is this ptkyr corner saw

[hollow pier]

no i got 5

[cunning lagoon]

how do you do it

[hollow pier]

you could maybe predict dive and go under

hit once

hit twice

[cunning lagoon]

[hazy sentinel]

install exaltation lul

[cunning lagoon]

ptk did youbget 5

ok fuck you

[hollow pier]

what

on nkg or corner saw

[cunning lagoon]

Oh i understand now

[hollow pier]

what

[cunning lagoon]

just ignore everything i said

[hollow pier]

what

so just do everything like i normally do

[hazy sentinel]

d1k

[hollow pier]

ok thanks

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[summer badge]

am i able to add a mod to the drive with the mods

[fair rampart]

contact @copper nacelle about it

iirc

[copper nacelle]

eeeeeeee

[cunning lagoon]

i see you haven't fixed your e key yet

[copper nacelle]

correct

[fair rampart]

hhhhhh

[cunning lagoon]

ok explain the damn hhh thing

what doesz it mean

[copper nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7zkbuw/what_does_h_mean_as_a_meme/duq2tg5/

[cunning lagoon]

ah i see

[copper nacelle]

you ever leave your hk on for like 4 days

and then close it and gain like 90 hours

[trim totem]

no

[copper nacelle]

[trim totem]

my hours are all real thank you very much

[cunning lagoon]

no my playtime is accurate

[copper nacelle]

absolutely not me irl

wtf

what could even be null there if startNormalBtn isn't

[cunning lagoon]

hmm yeah it seems to be a bug

[copper nacelle]

thank u

none of these are null wtf

[cunning lagoon]

yeah bc they start at true

[copper nacelle]

ree

ok it fails at newEvent.eventID = type

or newEvent.callback.AddListener(func)

one of the two

or not

[cunning lagoon]

the plot thickens

[copper nacelle]

i think it's self.gameObject

that or it has no event trigger

wow ok

it was the event trigger component not existing

i c

wow what the fuck

[cunning lagoon]

you

[copper nacelle]

no

look at it

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

re

[cunning lagoon]

👀

ah

permaDeath needs to be false

or we can't do shade skips

[copper nacelle]

eeeeeeee

@rain cedar is this u

[cunning lagoon]

do mag skips: true

or no balls

[trim totem]

yeet

[copper nacelle]

what in fuck

[supple sigil]

[copper nacelle]

what the fuck

excuse me why are you me but not

[supple sigil]

i am you

but mola

[copper nacelle]

dmca'd

[supple sigil]

my colour scheme is objectively better

[copper nacelle]

why is godseeker mode on top wtf

[cunning lagoon]

ok i think i have lifeblood

lets goo

[copper nacelle]

poggers

now watch me fix rando 2 so you downloading it will have been useless

[cunning lagoon]

Please Do Not

[copper nacelle]

ok howmst tf do i eat godmaster

[cunning lagoon]

i mean i dont really care either way

and it's probably better for everyone else bc i think most people have gm but not lb

[copper nacelle]

why is godmaster mode not a selectable

ree

[fair rampart]

eat godmaster

lemm eat ten egg but 56 eat ten godseeker

[cunning lagoon]

but how can you eat godmaster if it's sugma

[copper nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/438960212217692176/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

lemm sell all egg

[copper nacelle]

yes

the buttons are fucked up

the start game and start game rando 2 ones

are like in the wrong spot

probably has the wrong back

re

[cunning lagoon]

same

[copper nacelle]

why do i not have my language in chinese

[cunning lagoon]

because you can't read chinese

you should know this by now

[copper nacelle]

but the cutscene skipping is 300 years faster

wow ok

i don't need to do anything but menu

seems good

[leaden hedge]

just learn mandarin

so you can play faster

[cunning lagoon]

inb4 the mod breaks in the middle of the race

[compact sedge]

smh racing with pure knight and infinite grimm

[copper nacelle]

pure knight

is something i need to turn off

it ruins startup time

adds like 30 seconds

[fair rampart]

that gave me an idea jfc

"smh racing"

hollow kart

[compact sedge]

infinite grimm adds 0.01 seconds to your loading time if you enter the tent. better remove it just to be safe.

[fair rampart]

characters include grimm, the knight, pale king, pure vessel, bretta, and elderbug

[cunning lagoon]

no zote

[fair rampart]

well obv

[compact sedge]

if you fall does the radiance pull you out with your tentacles?

and also hold the wrong way sign if you go the wrong way?

[copper nacelle]

vs rando worked

i got soul catcher

gonna say it works

[cunning lagoon]

what if i don't know what to press

[fair rampart]

gotem

[obtuse pier]

I'm gettin hype 👀

[cunning lagoon]

me too

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[cunning lagoon]

pog

[copper nacelle]

looks like it works fine

sly and iselda are randoed

[cunning lagoon]

X

[copper nacelle]

wait no

[compact sedge]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

u

[compact sedge]

_UIManager\UICanvas\PlaymodeMenuScreen\Content\StartNormal how many gameobjects is too many

[copper nacelle]

_UIManager\UICanvas\PlaymodeMenuScreen\Content\NormalButton\Text\FlashEffect

[compact sedge]

why can't u just put the animator on the parent gameobject?

wtf

[leaden hedge]

you can

[compact sedge]

well they sure didn't

[leaden hedge]

animations can reference children fine

[cunning lagoon]

pedo

[copper nacelle]

mfw it's faster to force close hollow knight and delete invert knight than to wait for invert knight to load

[leaden hedge]

how do I kill all children

[compact sedge]

any advantages to doing it this way then?

_UIManager\UICanvas\PlaymodeMenuScreen\Content\GGButton\Text
                                                         \--Component: CanvasRenderer
                                                         \--Component: Text
                                                         \--Component: AutoLocalizeTextUI
_UIManager\UICanvas\PlaymodeMenuScreen\Content\GGButton\Text\FlashEffect
                                                              \--Component: CanvasRenderer
                                                              \--Component: Image
                                                              \--Component: Animator

[leaden hedge]

whats invert knight even doing

it should be like .5 seconds if that

unless you're doing it on the cpu

[copper nacelle]

it's actually not invert knight

[compact sedge]

it's inverting the entire texture one pixel at a time

[copper nacelle]

it's paper's pure knight sprites but i can't be bothered renaming a project

[leaden hedge]

thats retarded

[copper nacelle]

invert knight doesn't actually eat loading time

[compact sedge]

and then setting the new knight texture to that texture

[cunning lagoon]

what happens if you use invert+pure knight

[leaden hedge]

use a shader

[copper nacelle]

u

that's like effort

[leaden hedge]

it'll do it effectively instantly

besides putting it back in

[copper nacelle]

this works in like 2 seconds

and idk how to shaders

[compact sedge]

kdt every time you tell someone to optimize their mods instead of writing really easy and quick and hacky but inefficient code I should remind the internet that NGG exists.

[leaden hedge]

should just be a standard shader
but you do c = new Color4(1-c.r, 1-c.g, 1-c.b, c.a);

[copper nacelle]

yes

except i skip any pixels with alpha 0

[leaden hedge]

shouldn't really matter

[copper nacelle]

it cut off like 4 seconds

out of the 6 it was taking

[leaden hedge]

i mean for a gpu

you could do that at like 10k fps and be fine

[copper nacelle]

how do you do shaders from a script tho

[leaden hedge]

its only the putting the texture back in thats slow

[copper nacelle]

do you have to load them from assets

or am i dumb

[leaden hedge]

Graphics.Blit(xxx, mat)

you can runtime compile shaders

but its easier to load it from a bundle

[compact sedge]

does compiling a shader at runtime take more or less time than inverting the texture at runtime

(and more importantly does it take more or fewer lines of code)

[leaden hedge]

its probably faster still, and that'd depend on if you count the shaders code and the library

[compact sedge]

also don't you have to compile it for each gpu

or are you expecting 56 to bundle a shader compiled for many different GPU models?

[leaden hedge]

not sure what decade this is

[copper nacelle]

thank u dark souls

[leaden hedge]

but no, GLSL isn't hardware specific

[compact sedge]

really? even between amd and nvidia

[leaden hedge]

fairly certain the same shader works on windows and linux, amd, linux

[compact sedge]

between mesa and the windows drivers?

[leaden hedge]

hell glsl should compile fine on stuff like android / switch

[compact sedge]

this is information I will probably never use in my entire life ever but thanks for letting me know kdt

[copper nacelle]

wtf

the buttons won't move

[rain cedar]

There's probably some component fixing their position

Idk

I noticed that but didn't look into it

They fucked the menu in godmaster

[copper nacelle]

yes

[leaden hedge]

oh if you don't know anything about shaders either, you can use shader forge on unity

its a visual scripting thing for shaders

but it actually compiles down correctly

[copper nacelle]

wow nice

going to abuse this

thank

[leaden hedge]

so its not slower than normal code

[copper nacelle]

ahh

you were right sean

it has a FixVerticalAlign component

[rain cedar]

That's not it

[copper nacelle]

wow wtf

[rain cedar]

That's for the text

I'm already messing with those

[copper nacelle]

pain

[rain cedar]

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L1002

Have you figured out how to find the godseeker button at least?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[rain cedar]

FindSelectableOnDown doesn't work for whatever reason

[copper nacelle]

yeah

Object.Destroy(steel.gameObject.transform.parent.gameObject.FindGameObjectInChildren("GGButton"));

[rain cedar]

Good

[fair rampart]

is there a mod that changes game speed? I seem to remember there being one

but I might be remembering wrongly

[copper nacelle]

sanic

[leaden hedge]

sanic.dll

[fair rampart]

how fast does it make it

[copper nacelle]

anything

[leaden hedge]

whatever speed you want

[fair rampart]

neat

[compact sedge]

couldn't you do steel.transform 56?

skip a step

[copper nacelle]

probably

[leaden hedge]

why is there no FindGameObjectInSiblings

[compact sedge]

to be tbh understandable to write safe code you know works when it takes 5 minutes to debug stuff

I do the same thing

[copper nacelle]

found it

_UIManager\UICanvas\PlaymodeMenuScreen\Content
                                        \--Component: RectTransform
                                        \--GameObject activeSelf: True
                                        \--GameObject layer: 27
                                        \--GameObject tag: Untagged
                                        \--Transform Position: (14.0, 11.9, -18.1)
                                        \--Transform Rotation: (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
                                        \--Transform LocalScale: (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
                                        \--Component: CanvasGroup
                                        \--Component: ZeroAlphaOnStart
                                        \--Component: VerticalLayoutGroup

VerticalLayoutGroup

[leaden hedge]

oh is this a scrollview

why don't they have a content size fitter?

[copper nacelle]

they do

on the button text

sometimes

idk

[leaden hedge]

it shouldn't really affect you anyway

you can just remove and add stuff from content

and it'll auto align stuff for you

[river eagle]

You guys should really get some artists to help with UI design

[compact sedge]

hey hal you should make art for mods

[copper nacelle]

the menu normally looks better than this

going to lb to see the old one

[leaden hedge]

i dunno if artists can help with UX

[river eagle]

I mean the icons and stuff

[copper nacelle]

e

[compact sedge]

I mean I have a sweet looking cheese pizza bar for redwing

dunno that any artists could top that

[copper nacelle]

it has the curly thing on gm

which it shouldn't have

or it should at least be higher up

[river eagle]

Like the non randomizer start game button is just directly ripped from in game files

[copper nacelle]

seed should be above mode select

[river eagle]

and the right one...

[copper nacelle]

is beautiful

[rain cedar]

Hey I worked hard on drawing that

[river eagle]

drawing

[copper nacelle]

rude

[compact sedge]

this is objectively the best mod sprite in the game

[leaden hedge]

draw all your art with REXPaint imo

[cunning lagoon]

that looks hella good

did papers make those?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[compact sedge]

papers more like only artist #archived-modding-development has

[copper nacelle]

wow rude

xhuis exists

[compact sedge]

tru

but xhuis is not a modder

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

neither are you

[copper nacelle]

wow dusted

[cunning lagoon]

yea i really showed him

you don't mess with me 😎

[leaden hedge]

i can draw good art, look at this

[copper nacelle]

amazing

👏

[compact sedge]

wow ok so u take my magnum opus, the pizza meter, and just completely put it to shame

I retire from ever making art

[flat forum]

Radiance Sans mod when

[copper nacelle]

delet this

why

i can't ui

[cunning lagoon]

try uiing better

[copper nacelle]

u

[compact sedge]

hey 56 u should pin that picture

since u can

[cunning lagoon]

hey 56 u should pin this messagew

[leaden hedge]

you should delete aa

because you can

[compact sedge]

smh mod abuse

[compact sedge]

if u wanna be lazy rather than move mode select up move the seed text up so it's all on one line

[copper nacelle]

but you can change the seed

[leaden hedge]

speaking of ui, i might make a thing which lists all gameobjects, then you can click on gameobjects to list components, then on compoents to list values

then let you edit the components if im not lazy

[compact sedge]

when you say make a thing wdym

in unity? as a hk mod? A standalone wpf program?

[leaden hedge]

well it'd be a mod

from an assetbundle

[compact sedge]

that'd be super useful to me

[copper nacelle]

s/me/everyone

[cunning lagoon]

s/me/@everyone

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

can modders do @everyone

[copper nacelle]

just need mode select a bit down

no

@everyone

[cunning lagoon]

why is modders a pingable role

anyway

[copper nacelle]

cause they're #archived-modding-development mods

without the word mod in the name

[cunning lagoon]

ahh yeah i keep forgetting about that

[compact sedge]

why is modders a pingable role

[copper nacelle]

it's just art mods but for #archived-modding-development

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[leaden hedge]

0/10

should be modderators

[copper nacelle]

@ simo

[leaden hedge]

although puns should be done in modderation

[compact sedge]

what's the criteria for getting the modder role? making a HK mod in the first 6 months of the game coming out?

[copper nacelle]

yes i totally did that

so did kerr

[cunning lagoon]

if == angle {
modder = false
} else {
modder = true
}

something like that

hackerman

[rain cedar]

There's too many modders right now, the only way is to defeat a current one in ritual combat and replace them

[copper nacelle]

^

[compact sedge]

yeah there can only be 3 people modding HK

7 is wayyy too many

[leaden hedge]

if( !user.name.Contains("angle") ) {
    user.roles.Add("Modder");
}else{
    user.ban();
}

[cunning lagoon]

now you're just showing off

[compact sedge]

showing off ur message editing skills

(also why does the number of modders added in each batch match the fibonacci sequence?)

[leaden hedge]

I'm not sure what it is you're referencing

[compact sedge]

(also why am I even in this server?)

(oh right to shill my website)

[leaden hedge]

why are we still here

just

to

suffer

[compact sedge]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/PlayerData.html
https://radiance.host/apidocs/Classes.html
https://radiance.host/apidocs/Assets.html
https://radiance.host/apidocs/PlayMakerFSM.html
https://radiance.host/apidocs/CanvasUtil.html
https://radiance.host/apidocs/ModCommon.html

amazing!

[leaden hedge]

all of those are empty

[cunning lagoon]

Damn that's a cool looking website

Who made it?

[copper nacelle]

actually should that be in pins

[compact sedge]

probably one of the modders

[cunning lagoon]

Yeah I can't imagine anyone else making that masterpiece

[fair rampart]

🅱odo

[copper nacelle]

actually tho should i have https://radiance.host/apidocs/Hooks.html in pins

[compact sedge]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/ Hollow Knight Modding Api Documentation

[cunning lagoon]

wow that's all it takes to get your message pinned huh

[leaden hedge]

chat is moving so fast no one will notice im gay

[cunning lagoon]

ok mental note now the installer is 3rd pin here and not 2nd

[compact sedge]

idgaf

this isn't #archived-modding-help

[cunning lagoon]

people ask anyway

[compact sedge]

well tell people to look in #archived-modding-help

[copper nacelle]

i always say 1st pin in #archived-modding-help

[river eagle]

[cunning lagoon]

yeah but why take them to a different channel when the exact same thing is here

not that it matters

[copper nacelle]

because then they're in the right channel to be helped

ez

also cause i'm lazy

[compact sedge]

because if people are dumb then let them be dumb in a channel I can ignore

[river eagle]

hold on

[fair rampart]

tfw get to absrad p3 while practicing without taking any damage but then die

I dunno it's just something about that phase that makes me shut down

[cunning lagoon]

oh dude how about a ;installer command

[river eagle]

[copper nacelle]

hal pls

do it

[compact sedge]

hal

[cunning lagoon]

it just links you to the thing

[copper nacelle]

now i've got an actual reason to set up the docker container

for ; i n s t a l l e r

[river eagle]

yay for motivation

[copper nacelle]

does this look fine

should mode select be lower

i can spell

[cunning lagoon]

yes place it 2 px lower

[compact sedge]

just move the seed to one line

[copper nacelle]

seed is editable

[compact sedge]

so you don't have to bother changing any positions of mode

oh

[copper nacelle]

it'll be weird

[compact sedge]

I see

[cunning lagoon]

but yeah it'll probably look better if you lwoer it a bit

[compact sedge]

^

[cunning lagoon]

so it's more like in the middle of the seed and "restrictions"

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

yeet

gonna pr

[compact sedge]

hey sean that pr might break compatibility with 1.2, you should indefinitely postpone accepting it.

[copper nacelle]

rando 2 doesn't even work with 1.2

really makes u think

[rain cedar]

A bit

[copper nacelle]

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/pull/21

[compact sedge]

woah 21 issues

oh and they're all issues

tbh was expecting 20 other PRs

[rain cedar]

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/pull/21/commits/06871bfb0f56c5a6aa1bdd995bc31f45e1918a5e#diff-7e91a96727fc406ef74d15b00316ed41R97

[cunning lagoon]

only 2 of them are marked as bugs

thats good right

[copper nacelle]

oh

[rain cedar]

Why does that take a function argument now?

[copper nacelle]

because it's async now

it invokes the callback after finishing saving

[rain cedar]

So it's easier now to quit the game during saving

Good

[copper nacelle]

on PC the implementation is still basically synchronous tho so

[compact sedge]

also switch is never getting mods

[cunning lagoon]

not with that attitude

[copper nacelle]

should i put the fixed version on the drive

[compact sedge]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

so are we racing on lb or gm

[copper nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact sedge]

gm with QoL

[copper nacelle]

probably tbh

[compact sedge]

?rank racer

[autumn shard]

@compact sedge, you joined Racer.

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

I wanted to check something

but turns out

[copper nacelle]

are you gonna race

oh ok

[compact sedge]

you cannot actually race without the speedrunner role

or at least chat in #races-discussion

but you can get the racer role

[cunning lagoon]

yea you still need the role to speak in those channels

[copper nacelle]

racer role is just for the pings

[cunning lagoon]

also i believe there's a vc for racers?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

3 of them

iirc

[compact sedge]

?role racer

?rank racer

[copper nacelle]

rank

[autumn shard]

@compact sedge, you left Racer.

[rain cedar]

I'll accept this pr in a bit after I make changes to it

[copper nacelle]

alright

should i not gdrive then

[rain cedar]

Since for some reason you fucked with formatting in a few unrelated spots

Nah go for it

[compact sedge]

@copper nacelle so rn if hypothetically someone said something like "hey guys do you wanna have a randomizer race on saturday?" and I wanted to say "Sure, I'm down." I would have to respond to them in the public speedrunning channel aka #archived-modding-development

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

you can still chat in #speedrunning

[copper nacelle]

^

[rain cedar]

Does racer role let you talk in #races-discussion?

[cunning lagoon]

i'm not sure if you can join the race vc without the speedrunner role though

[compact sedge]

no

[cunning lagoon]

nah

[rain cedar]

That's dumb

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[compact sedge]

I'm still not convinced this server isn't setup in an incredibly dumb way but I don't actually speedrun so it doesn't affect me at all

[cunning lagoon]

it doesn't affect 99% of people

there are like 30 speedrunners atm

ok probably more like 40-50

[compact sedge]

can't do much tho. benji and simo get to decide stuff because they were the first people to decide to make a discord, not because they know shit about how to run one. Not that I know shit either but there's lots of shitty things about this discord.

like and other hollowfaces other than that have 0 uses

[cunning lagoon]

that seems a bit rude

[compact sedge]

and the #rules-and-info page is ugly af

and I can't collapse lobby without hiding the general chat so if I cared about general chat (which I don't it's muted) I would have to keep it uncollapsed

and #hk-lore

[copper nacelle]

hide muted channels

tbh

[cunning lagoon]

i mean first off this current iteration of the speedrunning channels wasn't really simo or benji's idea

many people complained about the other changes

so they changed it back

[compact sedge]

by many do you mean more or fewer than 5 people

[cunning lagoon]

by many i mean the only people affected by said changes

[compact sedge]

poor speedrunners not wanting to lose their special color

[rain cedar]

Bring back greenpr

[compact sedge]

goddamn snowflakes

I mean what

[cunning lagoon]

i personally couldn't care less about the color

[leaden hedge]

i wish i had a colour

[cunning lagoon]

so like

what would you say is bad about how the speedrunning channels are currently arranged

[rain cedar]

Wait wtf 56 these formatting changes you did aren't even consistent

[copper nacelle]

sorry

i just tried to make my ide shut up

[compact sedge]

channels you can read but can't talk in that aren't admin channels are objectively shitty.

all of the time

[rain cedar]

No that is consistent it's just swapped order of green/red

[cunning lagoon]

and also i wanna say that i personally think that the first changes they made (not having a color but letting anyone join) was absolutely fine, but i also don't have a problem with the current one

[compact sedge]

It'd seriously be better if non runners could only see #speedrunning and #resources and nothing else

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rain cedar]

As long as they can't see #sr-offtopic

[cunning lagoon]

yes

that stays private

[copper nacelle]

yes

[compact sedge]

didn't that used to be public

[copper nacelle]

for like a day