#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 113

copper nacelle Jun 8, 2018, 5:19 AM

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the new 2nd phase should be a lot less rng than before

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:19 AM

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main problem for me are the boomerangs in phase 1

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because they layer like hell

copper nacelle Jun 8, 2018, 5:19 AM

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yeah i just set all the waits to near 0

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cause 0 was being weird

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that's why it's a test build

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:27 AM

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how did they work on 0?

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also, how can I check with a mod if another mod is installed?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:31 AM

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just remove the waits if you want them to be 0

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:32 AM

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won't it just start the next attack the moment the last one has ended?

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I hit both of them once

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compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:39 AM

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what's that brightness

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:40 AM

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that's from the animation

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I was dyinging

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very dyinging

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I was being murdified to death

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:40 AM

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ah I didn't know it was a real dream sequence now

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well that's obviously a fake dream sequence transition because it's not any I recognize

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unless it's WP

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maybe that's why it's so weird looking

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most dream sequence fades are yellow for a rather radiant reason

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but the WP ones are white

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and grimm's is red

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:42 AM

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The Mantis Gods murderkill you so hard you diexpireperish into deathblivion

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ARGH

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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lore wise I guess white makes the most sense for a dream sequence fade

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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blue dream best dream

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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blue dream when

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Lifeblood core

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the dream thingies are blue there

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the main problem in phase 2 is that one seems to be slightly slower than the other

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:45 AM

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oh right

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:46 AM

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and how do I check if a mod has been installed?

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regardless of version or anything

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:47 AM

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press start

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or escape

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:47 AM

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(with another mod)

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:47 AM

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and look in top left

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:47 AM

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with another mod

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:47 AM

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??

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literally only one mod integrates with another mod as far as I know

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:48 AM

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is it possible to program a mod that checks if a certain other mod has been installed

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yeah

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:48 AM

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yes

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you just need a little reflection

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:48 AM

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. . .

young walrus Jun 8, 2018, 5:48 AM

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Copy how Sean checks for mod common with Rando

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:48 AM

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https://gitlab.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L27 this gets a variable from another mod if it exists

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grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs · master · Eli Stone /...

A Hollow Knight mod for a better Grimmchild

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and this code I stole from sean gets if a mod is installed https://gitlab.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L24

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grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs · master · Eli Stone /...

A Hollow Knight mod for a better Grimmchild

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And THIS:

https://gitlab.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild.cs#L307

This gets a variable WITHOUT REFLECTION

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grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild.cs · master · Eli Stone / grimmchi...

A Hollow Knight mod for a better Grimmchild

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but only do this if you're sure the other mod is present

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as you can see I have a check and also put it in a try catch thing

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just requires linking against the other mod

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:51 AM

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because I want to check if Mantis Gods has been installed and if yes make GodSlayers' punishment less severe - you can equip more charms without getting punished

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:52 AM

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make it less severe always or only while in the mantis gods fight

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:53 AM

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can't think of a way to make it less severe only during the mantis Gods fight so I'll just let "always less severe" slide for now

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:53 AM

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on scene reset check the to scene

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and if it's the mantis gods scene

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then set it

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make sure your mod loads after 56's

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:54 AM

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(...how)

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to make sure it loads after the other one

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 5:54 AM

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https://gitlab.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L142

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grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs · master · Eli Stone /...

A Hollow Knight mod for a better Grimmchild

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the higher the LoadPriority return number the later it loads

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 6:02 AM

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omg

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pivot is always set to the local position of 0,0,0

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so I shouldn't ever change the local position of my objects if I want them to pivot around their centers

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ok it still looks dumb. Do I have to set the localposition to the middle of my sprite for it to pivot around the middle?

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 6:07 AM

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try that?

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VS insists that I can't just do IEnumerator, I need System.Collections.IEnumerator?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 6:08 AM

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using System.Collections;

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and yes

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that is what it is

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a System.Collections.IEnumerator

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but adding that namespace at the start means you only need to type the last part

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 6:09 AM

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same for deltatime - UnityEngine.Time.deltaTime

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 6:10 AM

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using UnityEngine;

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same deal

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then it's just Time.deltaTime

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 6:10 AM

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yeah

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 6:34 AM

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~~anyone know why this is happening and how to fix. I get:
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException
when running fireballsGo[i].transform.position = fbSpawnPos;

where fireballsGo is a game object~~

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~~why can't I just set an object's transform~~

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sorry im dumb

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once again adding a log caused an exception

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lpt never log anything

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ugh I can't figure out how to keep my localposition at 0

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changing my position changes my localposition as well

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"Make an empty parent game object to the game object you want to rotate. Place the game object such that its middle is placed right at the origin of the parent. You can then rotate the parent game object instead using the normal ways to set the rotation of the transform."

How is this hacky shit the "official" way to do it.

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 7:38 AM

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(and maybe I'm just dumb but why can't I get it to work)

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what am I doing I spent 3 hours on this junk to realize I had a RigidBody2d I could have used

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what even that rotates around a weird pivot to the bottom right of where it should be

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Did you set the pivot on your sprite where you want it to be?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 7:59 AM

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my local position of my sprite is always 0, 0

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is that wrong

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 7:59 AM

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Not the local position, the pivot

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3rd argument to CreateSprite, I think

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Sprite.Create, my bad

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:00 AM

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uh it was set as Vector2.zero

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what should it be

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for the middle

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 8:00 AM

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Half

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:01 AM

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THANK YOU SO MUCH OMG I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Yeah it's usually just something simple you didn't know about

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Takes the most time

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:03 AM

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...and you can hardly even notice the rotation. Dunno if that's a pro or a con.

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 8:46 AM

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how noticeable is it?

floral furnace Jun 8, 2018, 9:56 AM

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so uhh if i make something like this:

MainClass:
HeroUpdateHook =+ someHook;

Intialize(){
UIclass uic = new UIclass();
}

public void someHook(){
uic.intVariable = whateverVariableThatGetsUpdated;
}

then in the 2nd class

UIclass extended by Monobehaviour
int intVariable

Update(){
    // some code here that will display the intVariable on the screen
}

should work right?

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 10:21 AM

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You add hooks inside of Initialize, not just in the class

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And you need to use AddComponent to create monobehaviour instances

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Also for simple GUI stuff use OnGUI not Update

floral furnace Jun 8, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Oh sorry wrong syntax stuff just making some pseudocode thingy, as for the gui i was planning on a stamina bar so i guess i should still use update for that or no?

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 10:33 AM

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OnGUI is used for ImGUI rendering and canvas should be updated when relevant, not always

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So either way Update is probably not good to use

floral furnace Jun 8, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Alrighty

misty portal Jun 8, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Could someone help me with installing the boss rush mod for mac?

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I already have the zip files for the OSX modding API and the mod itself, just not sure where to put them

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 11:46 AM

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That doesn't work on lifeblood

misty portal Jun 8, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Oh, kk 😕

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 11:49 AM

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KDT is not bothering to update it since the new game mode will probably be boss rush

solemn rivet Jun 8, 2018, 12:49 PM

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But if you want to downpatch you can play it in TGT

young walrus Jun 8, 2018, 3:42 PM

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@rain cedar rando logic is broken in lifeblood for dive only start

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large dude in CoT can't go left enough to get to Lemm/Waterways anymore

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there's a wall he can't walk past

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Someone here know how to get the Bonfire mod if it can be used?

solemn rivet Jun 8, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Pins

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There's a gdrive with all mods, install instructions and installers there

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 6:16 PM

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where?

young walrus Jun 8, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Pins

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📌

flat forum Jun 8, 2018, 6:34 PM

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upper right corner

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there's a 🔔, a 📌 and 2 people

young walrus Jun 8, 2018, 6:36 PM

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There's people in the corner? Let them come hang out!

solemn rivet Jun 8, 2018, 6:46 PM

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And he dead

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 6:49 PM

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What is Glass soul?

solemn rivet Jun 8, 2018, 6:57 PM

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1 hit = ded

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Hp increases your damage

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Lol

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then i can use always fury of the fallen

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 7:23 PM

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the one pro

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 7:37 PM

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How the boss rush mode works?

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 7:39 PM

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you select 1 of 9 bosses for each tier
complete all tier to go to next tier
complete all 3 tiers to win

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each boss you get to select one/two charms or upgrades out of 3 randomly generated selections

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 7:53 PM

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How i enter in the boss rush mode?

solemn rivet Jun 8, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Just start a new game

drifting light Jun 8, 2018, 8:06 PM

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i did and nothing happened

Or i have to get out of King´s pass?

exotic dune Jun 8, 2018, 8:07 PM

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boss rush isn't updated

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:08 PM

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so it needs downpatching?

copper nacelle Jun 8, 2018, 8:08 PM

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yes

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:09 PM

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kdt pls

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 8:43 PM

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@young walrus Thanks for letting me know, I'm making this sign pogoable as an alternative

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leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:46 PM

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I'd probably have to recode a bunch of hacky fixes to get boss rush to work on LB

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and all you'd get out of it is hive knight

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:48 PM

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do any of your mods work on LB kdt?

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and which ones will you update to GnG?

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:48 PM

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darkmod, tracker work

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spritedump works

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 8:49 PM

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The tracker works because wyza updated it though

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:49 PM

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well it would have worked fine - lb exclusive stuff

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:50 PM

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so you haven't done any HK modding at all since the release of LB then I assume?

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:50 PM

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not really, I made the speedhack and darkmod

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nothing major though

scenic slate Jun 8, 2018, 8:50 PM

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is there a functioning boss rush mod?

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:51 PM

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if you can downpatch your game to last patch yes

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:51 PM

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KDT's works you just need to use the grimm troupe patch

scenic slate Jun 8, 2018, 8:51 PM

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hm

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:52 PM

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I mean it should only be a few days of works to fix everything and make it work on LB, but GnG has been early 2018 release for a while now

rain cedar Jun 8, 2018, 8:52 PM

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It's not early 2018 anymore

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 8:53 PM

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tc just fucking dunked us

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:54 PM

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switch release when

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before or after switch hacks

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place bets

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 8:54 PM

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i'd say we should all abandon the game and get to playing cuphead

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or ori

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heard there was gonna be a new release of that

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might arrive before gng

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:54 PM

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ori2

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electric boogaloo

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:55 PM

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decompile the x86 binary unity generates to rebuild it for arm architecture. then jailbreak your switch and run it on that. Ez.

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should take like, 3 minutes tops

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 8:56 PM

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but does it have gng

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it was specifically said that the switch release would have all 3 CPs

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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write GnG from scratch

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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they reversed that iirc

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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based on what everyone thinks it is gonna be like

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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gng wont be on switch release

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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but

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but simo said so

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sadgrub

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 PM

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unless they changed back back

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 8:58 PM

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stop playing with my emotions kdt grimmsad

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 8:58 PM

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it'd make more sense to release them together

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so theres not a month between pc and switch release of gng

hollow pier Jun 8, 2018, 9:00 PM

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both arent coming tbh

exotic venture Jun 8, 2018, 9:00 PM

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instead we get hornet for smash

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 9:05 PM

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i'd smash hornet

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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with a sword

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and by sword I mean... ya know

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...

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a nail

copper nacelle Jun 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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more like

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a longsword

leaden hedge Jun 8, 2018, 9:09 PM

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long for you

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 9:09 PM

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a zweihander

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:17 PM

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@compact sedge wow neat

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first try on regular intenseface

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

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jesus really?

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

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i'll upload the video hollowface

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

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how long were you at it

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

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like an hour

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:19 PM

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and did you die just because it got boring?

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after 70k dmg

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:20 PM

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no i actually died

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took some dumb damage

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:52 PM

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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS

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@compact sedge make this harder, i want to see people suffer

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Make him faster stronger, Better.

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:52 PM

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This is normal mode it's not supposed to be hard

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Oh yeah normal

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Did he do 10 k on hard yet?

wide flicker Jun 8, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Yes on a hare

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:53 PM

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no but he has 3 world records from this mod

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:53 PM

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3? What is the third one?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:54 PM

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most time spent fighting NKG in one round
best hard mode score
best normal mode score

wide flicker Jun 8, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Nice

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:54 PM

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What's the difference between fighting him for long in one round and getting the best score?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:54 PM

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idk but I've never seen anyone fight NKG for 1 hour straight

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like without dying or killing him

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although I bet ax2u could do that. he did fight nkg for 45 minutes

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:55 PM

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Oh so if you get the best amount of damage you also get the longest time right?

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Wait time isn't linked to damage

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:55 PM

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probably really easy to do normal mode infinitely

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just get a heal build

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so you can heal outside of stagger

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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^

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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it's just really boring

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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did you do it without a heal build

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seriously

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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why would i use a heal build

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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I expected you to use shape of unn and quickfocus for that kind of score idk

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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smh my head

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it was uhhh

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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because 240 hits between staggers = big meme

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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unbreakable strength
mark of pride
longnail
quick slash

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Charmless hollowwoke

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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did you heal outside staggers at all?

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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no

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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because if not that 70k seems almost more impressive to me than your hardmode score

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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probably just quick focus instead of MoP then heal during spikes

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easy infinite fight

wintry aurora Jun 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Damn that's impressive

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So basically veru is dominating the grimm infinite mod scene rn?

compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:58 PM

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IG normal mode with quick focus for veru is basically desert bus

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guy's a god idk

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But I still give it a week before Trinomi beats his score.

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not in regular mode tho

hazy sentinel Jun 8, 2018, 11:59 PM

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i think tri got a 9700

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compact sedge Jun 8, 2018, 11:59 PM

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huh he's sitting at 9020 on the leaderboards right now

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maybe I should update it

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ok

wintry aurora Jun 9, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Who's trinomi?

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:00 AM

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WR any% nmg

wintry aurora Jun 9, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Oh

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 12:00 AM

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among other records

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:01 AM

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oh wait he's second for any% nmg

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wtf

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 12:01 AM

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still a record smh

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 12:01 AM

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fast beat him a while ago

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smh my head

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:01 AM

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📎 ok.png

wintry aurora Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Also in that ngg vid about hk. I forgot if the person playing did only the first phase with his own skill or it was ALL segmented. If that person actually did the first phase with his own skill i salute him

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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that was trinomi

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segmented

wintry aurora Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Oh

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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first phase was one run

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only split was before double nkg

wintry aurora Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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One run? Does that mean with his own skill?

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 12:02 AM

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also he may be 2nd place NMG but he'll never be 117th place NMG.

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:03 AM

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he'll never be 117th for a meme

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Yes he did it with his own skill

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 1:01 AM

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if you think about it it's basically impossible for trinomi to get 117th place

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you'd need 105 people to beat his score

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which is probably never happening imo

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115*

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can't count

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Switch might bring in a bunch of godlike players

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Who knows

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 1:01 AM

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only if GnG adds cutscene skipping and menu drop

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Well, obviously you don't compare times against different versions

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 1:02 AM

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well in that case time to get the 106% world record on lifeblood

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with a time of... literally anything

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 1:03 AM

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🤔

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warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:03 AM

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TBH I think the broken build they put out with the switches being hit thru walls should count as a major glitch but whatever :)

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 1:03 AM

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tbh fix all bugs

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shouldn't be too hard

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 1:03 AM

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wow the game has no enemies

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bugs have been fixed

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and no longer spawn

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:04 AM

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I probably have the 107% WR, if no one else has done it

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Just from testing it as fast as I can

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I've never timed it tho

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 1:05 AM

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first person to time and record it wins

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I think that's how that works

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 1:06 AM

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of course

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 1:06 AM

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Yeah of course it needs to be timed to count!

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I don't like this behavior

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compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 4:45 AM

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really though I want kinematic + static collision

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unity pls add

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 4:56 AM

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You could manually check collisions in FixedUpdate

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Probably a bit slow to do that, though

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 4:57 AM

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It mostly works making it non-kinematic but there's a few minor bugs

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Like what?

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 4:59 AM

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uh if it's non-kinematic the colliders push the balls around.

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Sounds annoying

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 6:23 AM

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@warped sinew damage counter

📎 infinitegrimm.dll

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graig op

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@hazy sentinel

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 6:36 AM

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goddamn

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well guess it's possible

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can't say it isn't now

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 6:36 AM

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now make it start faster

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 6:53 AM

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over 10k again wtf

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warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Avenging Angle you made IG right?

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I'm going to credit you in my reddit post

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:27 AM

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ok cool thanks

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I'm /u/natis1 on reddit but I'm not that active

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:28 AM

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kk

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:28 AM

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my only messages in the last month have been memeeconomy investments

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which i then deleted

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:28 AM

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I just make snarky comments which get hundreds of upvotes and less snarky ones which get like 5 upvotes

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:29 AM

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corny

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i make like 0 comments

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Endurance mode will really complete the mod I feel

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:29 AM

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the only time i actually put down more than 2 comments in a month

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was when i was helping someone get their arch linux install to boot

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Also I really liked the damage counter more than without it

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Endurance mode?

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Basically 1hp mode

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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1 hit u die

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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ooohh

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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for normal and hard more

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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This sounds like hell

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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and maybe if I do that I might also remove staggers

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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1hp mode tho, so we can use fury

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Infinite NGG when tho?

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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since no need for them if you can't heal

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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imo sounds more fun than normal hard mode

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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cas it will be more fun being able to use fury than not

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yer remove stagger GREAT idea

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it slows the fight down

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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now start it at max speed

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thank

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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that's coming

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pls

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have patience I'm working on fireballs first

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:31 AM

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yeah, have an option to start hard mode at max speed

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:32 AM

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no max speed start! other wise people can practice the faster mode

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they need to EARN THAT RIGHT

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:32 AM

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haha

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:32 AM

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have it start at max speed hard mode and B U I L D U P S P E E D F R O M T H E R E

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:32 AM

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^

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:32 AM

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start it at the speed you would be at if you did however much damage you have in your high score.

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:33 AM

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Build up speed for 12 hours

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(Good balance)

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:33 AM

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you can fight one grimm but what about all the other ones in the other PUs

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:33 AM

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infinite grimm in half a press

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:34 AM

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smh no super mario stars in HK

floral furnace Jun 9, 2018, 7:35 AM

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infinite grimm mode where theres 2 grimms and they both mirror the same moves zote

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:35 AM

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among the dumb features that are being added one is semi infinite NGG

floral furnace Jun 9, 2018, 7:36 AM

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but if its semi how can it be infinite anymore 🤔

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:37 AM

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first two stages are normal. last one with two grimms are infinite

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and your score is how well you do on the last stage

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:37 AM

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make first 2 stages longer too

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:37 AM

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basically I'm mad KDT isn't porting NGG

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so I'm doing it for him

floral furnace Jun 9, 2018, 7:37 AM

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every 3k damage add another nkg

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:38 AM

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no

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do an InfiniteMantisLords

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and add another Mantis lord every 3k damage

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:39 AM

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u do it

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:39 AM

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once I understand how to make the Gods' Glory charm's stuff to work

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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can I fight mantis gods after i have killed mantis lords?

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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yeah

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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ok

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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you have to kill mantis lords first

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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required to defeat mantis lords

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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you kill Mantis Lords and enter the room from above

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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sides work too

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above is just the most fun

warped sinew Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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ok ill just use the same save file then

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:44 AM

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you fall for a long time and then get your ass handed to you by the mantis Gods

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 7:50 AM

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Hey seanpr since you know unity can you explain to me how do I check that my object only collides with a certain layer?

I have tried this code:

in init:
fireballsGo[i].layer = 169;

in OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D hitbox):
if (!hitbox.IsTouchingLayers(11)) return;
log("Hit a layer 11 object with on trigger enter. obj name is " + hitbox.name);

but in the modlog the fireballs still collide with each other for some reason

[INFO]:[Redwing] Hit a layer 11 object with on trigger enter. obj name is redwingFB4

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Just check the object layer directly

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hitbox.gameObject.layer

flat forum Jun 9, 2018, 7:59 AM

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who gives Sean the right to know everything >=T

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:00 AM

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ok that works

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but feels dumb

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but works

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thanks

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Neat

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 9:46 AM

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ugh so the pivot of my boxcollider2D is in the bottom right but the pivot of my sprite and rigidbody2D are in the proper location

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so when the sprite turns 180 degrees it looks like this

📎 bc.png

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I'm using RigidBody2D for rotation and the sprite itself has the proper pivot

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but IDK how to change the collider's pivot

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What doesn't work:

collider.offset = new Vector2(spriteSize.x / 2, spriteSize.y / 2);

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Not sure on that one

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 9:58 AM

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I have an idea not sure if it will work

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but trying to rotate the sprite's transform directly and hope that that doesn't rotate anything else on the GameObject

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ok that didn't work

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sprite's transform is the game object transform

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Yeah

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Component.transform is just a shortcut

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:01 AM

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is this another case where I need 2 levels of gameobjects

1 to hold the boxcollider
2 with 1 as its parent to hold the sprite, damages enemy, etc.

move 1 around only and rotate 2 around only?

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 10:03 AM

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That's stupid, but yeah maybe

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:27 AM

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If it's stupid and it works... Thanks for the healp sean

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:27 AM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922556550351742256/A6071E6BA1DEAD6E717C5A862B707E3805507418/

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:29 AM

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hardmode I assume?

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:43 AM

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idk I just downloaded the pinned mod

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Also I beat the record

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922556550351787641/878442515E28905E8B62D380B4862349ED5ADEB8/

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

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That says 70k

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Not 7k

exotic venture Jun 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

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that's uh

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regular mode

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hard mode speeds up

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

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how to get hard?

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Porn

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Grimm porn...

exotic venture Jun 9, 2018, 10:45 AM

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cease

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:45 AM

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ok srsly where how do u get hard mode

rain cedar Jun 9, 2018, 10:47 AM

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You just edit the settings file

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In your save folder

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:48 AM

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wait u get more dmg with grimm child, how much is it?

exotic venture Jun 9, 2018, 10:48 AM

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which you could have known if you read the readme

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:48 AM

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dont be silly

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I cant read

exotic venture Jun 9, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Optional hard mode for really skilled players. Set this in `<Path to HK Saves>/InfiniteGrimmMod.GlobalSettings.json` after running for the first time.

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hard to read

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3rd line of features

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:52 AM

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See this is why if you get 15k on normal mode grimm tells you to do hardmode

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because I know nobody reads the readme

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 12:50 PM

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tbh even if people do read it at least a third of them either won't know what program to open .json files with or how to toggle a bool

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 1:23 PM

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@copper nacelle @compact sedge boolin' (first run of the day)

📎 ok.png

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and now by tradition i'll do no more attempts for the entire day

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Hello, I'm trying to use the Randomizer mod (it's showing up in upper left corner) but it doesn't seem to work. Is there any more step to do to get it working?

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 3:57 PM

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@compact sedge rip

📎 ok.png

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lunch time

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:01 PM

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You need modcommon and the api also installed

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Yes I have them, for 1.3.1.5

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 4:04 PM

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click randomizer in save creation?

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Have you beaten the game once

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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yes

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:05 PM

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So steel soul is unlocked?

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And your game patch is also 1315?

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 4:06 PM

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oh, maybe I beat it before the update with steel soul, since i don't see it (yes my game is in 1315)

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Steel soul has been in since the start

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Go beat the game again to unlock steel soul

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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okay, guess i'll try to refinish it then

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Then the randomizer screen selection is on the steel soul VS normal mode selection screen

lucid vapor Jun 9, 2018, 4:08 PM

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okay thanks 😃

young walrus Jun 9, 2018, 4:09 PM

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There's save files on speedrun.com so you can put in a file that's at the final fight

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 7:52 PM

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trying to use Hex to open the .json file but the hard mode value always goes back to false every time I open the game

solemn rivet Jun 9, 2018, 7:53 PM

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just... Open it with notepad

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oh

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something similar was happening to Trinomi now that I think of it

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56 had to send him a "hard mode only" dll for the mod

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 7:54 PM

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cornywoke

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:02 PM

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Is there a way to get if there's any collders (of a certain layer) at a point?

I'm trying to detect if the corners of my object collided to use that to determine the angel my magma should be rotated.

But the problem is if there's two colliders that are right next to eachother and my ball hits right in between them then using other.OverlapPoint will only detect one.

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 8:06 PM

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@scenic slate https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/454066453037973504/infinitegrimm.dll

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forced hard mode

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also damage counter

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:07 PM

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thank you, this was getting frustrating, I wasnt sure if it was me being retarded or computer being bad

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;w;

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:10 PM

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basically this is what ends up happening when it hits the seam between two static walls.

and I wanna avoid it

📎 whathappens.png

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by just checking for collision manually I guess idk

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:19 PM

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2612 dmg hard mode, 2nd attempt, not bad if I say so myself

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 8:20 PM

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~~wow u got last~~

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:20 PM

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JUST A WARMUP IM ONLY GETTING STARTED grimm

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:20 PM

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actually

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ur in the top 10

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congrats

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 8:20 PM

#

tdogRat4

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:21 PM

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theres only 6 entries tho cornywoke

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 8:21 PM

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*9 entries

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:21 PM

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oh I was looking at the discord one

copper nacelle Jun 9, 2018, 8:21 PM

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discord preview doesn't update

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:21 PM

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uh discord one is just a preivew

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discord dumb

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 8:22 PM

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oh look im #4 in normal Im so good

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we should make this mod an Esport

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 8:56 PM

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ok fixed my problem this isn't happening because unity doesn't tell you this but the OverlapPoint function doesn't actually work

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somehow playmaker has been less stress to work with than unity

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 9:45 PM

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ok linecolliders are dumb

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:01 PM

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current problem. No way to check intersection between linecollider and bounds without converting my bounds to a boxcollider first but to do that requires creating a gameobject I believe.

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 10:02 PM

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ffs

📎 ok.png

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:02 PM

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u made a pretty hard to top score

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 10:03 PM

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trying to get 15k corny

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gotta get that dialogue 👀

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:03 PM

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just kill NKG 10 times over

#

ez

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:23 PM

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uhh ok so I guess I'll just ask. If I wanna detect if the corners collide what's the best way I should go about doing that?

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Because everything I've tried has failed so far

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the one thing I haven't tried is making 4 separate box colliders one for each corner because that sounds stupid

scenic slate Jun 9, 2018, 10:26 PM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922556550353907374/922673EEC82625DF54A4710AAADA12CD760022D3/

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hooray now Im not last place

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 10:27 PM

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@solemn rivet

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:42 PM

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wait I have an idea

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can you get the minimum distance between a point and a line collider

#

is that possible

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cuz then I could just check if minDistance < someEpsilon

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and if so then say they collided

hazy sentinel Jun 9, 2018, 10:42 PM

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yeah just take a perpendicular of the line that intersects the point /s

compact sedge Jun 9, 2018, 10:43 PM

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yeah I know but is there an easy way to do that... or any way to do that

#

but yeah anyone who knows linear algerbra[sic]/unity functions and how to do this then let me know

lapis spruce Jun 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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does anyone have a boss rush mod that works with the latest version of hollow knight

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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No working version for Lifeblood, youre gonna need to downgrade to 1.2.2.1 Grimm Troupe for that

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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downpatch

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https://speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

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is there a get all components function?

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Destroy and GameObject.DestoryAll don't destroy components

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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You can just get all of type Component

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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If I destroy a component from a component does it break unity?

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like if in my component I destroy myself

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Nah it should be fine

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 1:01 AM

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ok

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 1:01 AM

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I do that a lot

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Destroy(gameObject) to reduce clutter

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 1:02 AM

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no that's fine but it doesn't actually destroy the components inside or at least not all of them

#

for example my DamagesEnemies persists

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as does my redwing_fireball_behavior

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Components can't exist without their object

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So you must not be destroying every object you make

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 1:04 AM

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oh yeah ur probably right

warped sinew Jun 10, 2018, 1:07 AM

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@hazy sentinel no one told me there was magical new dialogue at 15k!? Otherwise I would have kept going yesterday :/

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Also congrats

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 1:09 AM

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dialogue isn't that good so don't get that hyped up for it

warped sinew Jun 10, 2018, 1:12 AM

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It doesn't matter what it says, it just matters that you earn it 👌

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

#

for AfterTakeDamageHook

Do I return hazardType or damageAmount?

They're both ints.

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also what's the difference between that and TakeDamageHook. If I modify the damage taken by TakeDamageHook to 0 does it cause the AfterTakeDamageHook to not apply?

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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your return damageAmount

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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ok so that answers question 1

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question two. If I return 0 as damageAmount on the TakeDamageHook does that stop AfterTakeDamageHook from running?

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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that... i dont know

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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and also why are there two hooks

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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one for before

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and one for after

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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iirc theyre called from the start and the last part of taking damage

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well that

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

#

e

📎 unknown.png

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e2

📎 unknown.png

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have u tried dnspy

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 3:44 AM

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fuckin dnspy keeps converting the booleans into flags smh (unless theyre declared at the class itself instead of inside a function, still pretty lame tho imo)

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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@compact sedge done for today

📎 ok.png

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Wowwww

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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oh shit u actually uploaded the 70k video

#

holy crap that's a long time

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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only gonna upload a hardmode one when i get 15k

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maybe never

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Wait, are you Verulean?

#

I'm confused

#

Y r u called Test

#

What

steep sail Jun 10, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Come on, Ive still havent beaten standard NKG! Why you`re playing HK so strong?

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Hey

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Use ' instead of `

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 4:14 AM

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@steep sail '''''''''''''''''''''''''''

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/922556550354964306/744E4EDF9E16860C5A14A78C3B4360EF722C2C95/ So close to 5k ;w;

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 4:44 AM

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On Hard?

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 4:49 AM

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no shit

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:24 AM

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is there a list of hazard types?

#

and what numbers they corrispond to?

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 5:27 AM

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GlobalEnums.HazardType

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:28 AM

#

apparently I can't compare that enum to an int

#

with ==

#

cast the enum to an int?

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 5:28 AM

#

Yeah, that works

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:38 AM

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WTF why are enemies classified as: HazardType.SPIKES

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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because

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HK code strange

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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all attacks are either spikes or fire if you think about it

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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TC has interesting ideas

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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or acid

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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isn't acid like spikes?

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acid and spikes function by returning you to a safe point

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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acid's like a mix of spikes and fire

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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Shouldnt be spikes

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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spikes are sharp and cut you. fire burns you. acid can do both

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:39 AM

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the other one just hits you

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

Spikes don't check acid invuln

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:40 AM

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but whenever hit it has the same effects

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

But it has to check if it can hit, and what to do when it does

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

Look all I know is these are the enums

namespace GlobalEnums
{
  public enum HazardType
  {
    NON_HAZARD,
    SPIKES,
    ACID,
    LAVA,
    PIT,
  }
}```

and every enemy I hit is type 1.

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I thought it would be NON_HAZARD but that's type 0

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Are enums 0 indexed?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:41 AM

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yes

#

ima check if real spikes are type 1 too

#

where's the closest spikes in crossroads

#

probably crystal area

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:42 AM

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Most likely not updated as enemies probably don't even trigger the code to check the hazard type

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:43 AM

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uh if so that's a problem

#

because

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I wanna only do a thing when I'm hit by stuff that doesn't cause char respawn

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ok nvm crystals are bottomless pit for some reason

#

oh wait

#

see

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:43 AM

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yeah

#

because

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

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it's because my invulnerability

#

from

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

#

you can bounce on spikes

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

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the enum being wrong

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

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also, why is WP clouds not pit

#

it's spikes

#

you can bounce on it

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

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You can't bounce on all spikes

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

#

?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:44 AM

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taking damage from hazard type 2

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that's spikes

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

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I think you can bounce off of everything classified as spikes

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

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which is ACID?

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wtf

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how are the crystal spikes acid

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

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so, Spikes, retracting Spikes, Saws

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

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wtf how are crystal area spikes acid

#

uhhhhh

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

#

wait

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:45 AM

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is the enum made by the people who made the modding api

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or the people who made the game

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:46 AM

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they don't check for swimming

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:46 AM

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No its tc

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:46 AM

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if the former I think it's wrong

#

oh

#

really

#

they made the enum

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including picking the names

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choosing enemies to be spikes, spikes to be acid

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:46 AM

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what's LAVA tho?

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:46 AM

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A good hint its not made by us

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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going to fungi area to see what acid is

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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Most likely removed content related to bone forest

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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can it be applied to something?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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ACID is type 3

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which is

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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to see how it functioned

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:47 AM

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LAVA

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acid is LAVA

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ACID IS LAVA, SPIKES ARE ACID, ENEMIES ARE SPIKES

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:48 AM

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W H A T ? ? ?

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:48 AM

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Most likely its actually 0 indexed

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:48 AM

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it's 0 indexed but TC treats it like it's 1 indexed

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that's my theory

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ok where can I find spikes that reset your positon

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:48 AM

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Well it shouldn't matter

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:48 AM

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kings station right

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:49 AM

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Because you set it to X = HazardType.SPIKES not 2

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:49 AM

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HazardType.SPIKES is 1

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:49 AM

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I blame playmaker

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:50 AM

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HazardType.ACID is 2. which is both crystal spikes and the spikes in kings station

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and probably sawblades too

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HazardType.LAVA is 3 and is acid

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but where can I find HazardType.PIT

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maybe that one's properly named

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:50 AM

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oh

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how about

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:50 AM

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does hk have any pits

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:50 AM

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dream places

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:50 AM

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oh right

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:51 AM

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whenever you fall of the edge in a dream realm

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:51 AM

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100iq way of checking

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:51 AM

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ok creepy bugs in abyss are also acid

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the ones that form the floor

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:52 AM

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yeah

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they function like spikes

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and you already said spikes are acid

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:52 AM

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ok kingsmould

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nope

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guess what

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floor in white palace

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is ACID

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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is like spikes

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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There's no HazardType.PIT

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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I said that one already

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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NO IN WHITE PALACE

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the invis floor

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that kills you when you fall off

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the death barrier

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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you need to go to one of the boss dreams

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:53 AM

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I think all hazards are just kill on contact monobehaviour

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:54 AM

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why is radiance dream different from WP dream

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:54 AM

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that one, as I said, functions like spikes (you can bounce off of it) and you said spikes are acid

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:54 AM

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no you can't

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I mean falling off the map

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and hitting the death point

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in WP

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when you do that

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it's type acid

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seriously

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:54 AM

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I have successfully bounced off of the WP clouds from point A to point B

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unless it has been changed

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:55 AM

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like the ones at the bottom

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wtf tc

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can you refight lost kin

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:55 AM

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you can respawn him with Debug mod

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:55 AM

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just gonna quit to menu to go quickly back to thk

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:55 AM

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how is the Flame Shield supposed to look?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:56 AM

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however you want. it's a shield around the knight that blocks 1 damage.

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and uh I'ma have to figure out how to make it block damage from acid and lava and stuff while still resetting your position

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:56 AM

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Hazards and enemies are coded different so its easy to check

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:56 AM

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is it made out of the fireballs or can I just go Super Sayian Goku style?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:56 AM

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because if you set damage taken to 0 the knight will just fall through spikes

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no it's more like goku I guess

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:56 AM

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ok

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:57 AM

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not like 3 green shells orbiting you like in mario kart

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:57 AM

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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/J8YAAOSwVY1ZpOt0/s-l300.jpg

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but HK

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hehehe

dusky lion Jun 10, 2018, 7:57 AM

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y

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Although that would be a cool idea

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Sacrifice the ability to use any SOUL moves including healing to gain x2 damage and a fire aura.

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:57 AM

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Hmm how does 0 damage make it not work

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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if you take 0 damage you won't hazard respawn

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so you'll just fall through

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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KillOnContact doesn't even check

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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since it's not an actual hitbox

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idk how it's done

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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doesn't it fail same as the way 0 damage nail fails

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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all I know is if I set damage equal to 0 it fails

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so ima have it deal 1 damage and then heal the player 1 health

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or heal first if they're not full hp

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Ok

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you can just do

if (PlayerHP == MaxHP)
DealDamage
Heal
if (PlayerHP < MaxHP)
Heal
Deal Damage

I guess

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 7:59 AM

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and the moment of truth

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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d r u m r o l l

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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guess what type the pit on radiance fight is

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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like acid?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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MOTHERFUCKIN ACID

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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hehehahaha

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yeah

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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so there's no AttackType.Pit

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 AM

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you need to respawn Lost Kin

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 AM

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no fuck u I'm not doing this you test it

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I swear to god it'll be acid too

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I bet you 10 bucks

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not for real

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 AM

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This is the only one where it teleports you

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Easy fix tbh

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Dreamers and the 3 Dream Bosses (Failed Champ, Lost Kin and Tyrant)

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test it on one of those

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:02 AM

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don't have time

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Just check the hazardType OnTakeDamagr

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:02 AM

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You can do it later

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:02 AM

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If it matches just run the same coroutine

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 8:02 AM

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but if any of those end up PIT

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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They're treating the enum as if it's 1 indexed in their if statements but passing the correct 0 indexed values onward

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📎 unknown.png

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Mystery solved

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Although DieFromHazard is private

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Uhh random question but Time.deltaTime SHOULD be constant right?

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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No

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Uhh no

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 8:03 AM

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shit

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Its how many seconds the frame took to render

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Usually around 1/60

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Dunno why you'd want a fixed amount though

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A better fix I guess would be moving the damage override to be after the check

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:06 AM

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hey seanpr since the modding api also has patches can you fix this in a patch pls

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also why are pits and spikes the same and not the pit type

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actually don't fix not worth the effort

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:06 AM

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Yeah, it isn't

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Just make your own HazardType enum with +1 on everything

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Can you pass functions accessed via reflection into start coroutine 🤔

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:10 AM

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If you call Invoke on one you'll get back an IEnumerator

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Which you can pass to StartCoroutine

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:11 AM

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Well then its pretty easy to hazard respawn without taking damage

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:12 AM

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You can just call GameManager.HazardRespawn for that

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:13 AM

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Weird that's programmed different to the actual hazard respawn

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Wonder why they have so much redundant stuff

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:14 AM

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A lot of it is leftovers from old patches

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They add new methods but leave the old in

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Idk why

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Efficient

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99% of the game manager functions are just for playmaker

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:15 AM

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99% of functions everywhere

leaden hedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:15 AM

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Because nothing is as efficient as making an object reflect the name of an object to find its instance, them using reflection to find a method and call it

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Don't forget not caching any of the reflection

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Obviously

stoic pawn Jun 10, 2018, 8:45 AM

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hey guys anybody got a mod that skips the annoying ass cutscenes when you're dying a lot in Steel Soul

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Kappa

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 8:46 AM

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Yeah it's called playing on any patch before lifeblood

floral furnace Jun 10, 2018, 8:46 AM

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QOL mod?

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 9:00 AM

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ree

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rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 9:01 AM

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214 is a pretty slow night tbh

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 9:04 AM

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true

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 9:26 AM

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So is it just me or is the time you can jump after walking off a ledge super heavily reduced in lifeblood?

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I'm not sure that some of the more precise skips are even possible

#

More specifically I mean I can't clear this gap with just fireball

📎 unknown.png

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 9:48 AM

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does wraiths work maybe?

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think it has a bit more floating time

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so wraiths + fireball might work out maybe

rain cedar Jun 10, 2018, 9:49 AM

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It's a longer animation yeah but you can't move during it so the floating time doesn't mean anything

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The pushback on fireball is better for getting across gaps

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 9:49 AM

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welp, ok

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then i dunno, really

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 11:58 AM

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I don‘t know how to finish the hard seed 1608102

📎 ModLog.txt

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happygrub

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:02 PM

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what are you lacking exactly ?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Please read the modlog or play it，you will find it. I can't express well.

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:04 PM

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?

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what skills do you have ?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:06 PM

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HK 1221 RandomizerMod. I can't get Sharp Shadow with my skills

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:08 PM

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the log says that it is reachable though, that's why I'm asking what skills you currently have

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and anyway, why would you go fetch Sharp Shadow ? It contains Desolate Dive and all the items necessary for Any% are already reachable

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I don't know all the words. So I have two picture

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:11 PM

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I don't understand what's wrong though ? Shade Cloak is at Mantis Claw

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With Shade Cloak you can get Sharp Shadow which is Desolate Dive

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:13 PM

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but you can't reach it

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:13 PM

#

?

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there are other necessary items for Sharp Shadow ?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:14 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Hmmm

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And did you try the third entrance ?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:18 PM

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kill self？

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Nah, I don't think there is a bench near enough

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and there is a third entrance to deepnest

#

📎 unknown.png

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oh you need Claw to do that 🤔

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:23 PM

#

the

📎 unknown.png

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😂

#

📎 unknown.png

#

milliS

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:33 PM

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yeah you actually only need wings but it's hard

#

well uh

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:35 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:35 PM

#

Actually you forgot to put that you have Isma's tear

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:36 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:36 PM

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and so apparently you only need Shade Cloak and Isma's tear

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 12:36 PM

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heavy blow best item as is tradition

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:38 PM

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I can‘t get sharp shadow with 2 cloaks + Isma's.

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:40 PM

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According to RainingChain rando page, you can though thinkgrub

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I cannot verify it sadly, sorry

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:42 PM

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So lucky am I😂

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Oh I think I know

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Damn I'm dumb

#

You can access the third entrance I showed by going to Moss Prophet from Queen's Garden

#

📎 unknown.png

#

@lucid pond

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:48 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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this one

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too high

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

isn't it the one from the Mantis Lords ?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 12:49 PM

#

No= =

#

if you play low%

#

you will know this

#

I　ｗｉｌｌ　ｓｈｏｗ　ｙｏｕ　ｔｈｅ　ｍａｐ

#

ｈｅｒｅ

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#

ｗｈｙ　ｍｙ　ｗｏｒｄｓ　ｂｅｃｏｍｅ　ｂｉｇｇｅｒ？

#

😂

#

📎 unknown.png

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 1:01 PM

#

and you tried to shade skip there ?

#

on the platform you're right under

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 1:04 PM

#

why are you going low% with randomizer

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 1:06 PM

#

I mean you will know where I am in the photo if you run low%、

#

📎 unknown.png

#

this one

#

It‘s too high.

#

I can't up not through

#

shade skip isn't useful= =

#

这台子太高了，我没法上去，不是跳不过去

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 1:10 PM

#

yeah that seemed tight

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 1:10 PM

#

2 places，the same question

#

and the wing is in sly‘s key’

#

📎 unknown.png

#

the claw need dive skill

#

the dive skill at sharp shadow

#

Try the seed,you will know the question.HK 1221 hard 1608102

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 1:18 PM

#

It's not really a matter of trying the seed, according to RainingChain Randomizer Helper, you should be able to get it, so either the logic is at fault here, or we didn't think of the right answer

#

(I'm going to ask in #speedrunning, so we can stop monopolising this channel :P )

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 1:21 PM

#

I'm going to relax. See you later

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 1:55 PM

#

You can get to sharp shadow with ismas and shade cloak by going through QG

#

Entering deepest by mask maker

potent pollen Jun 10, 2018, 1:56 PM

#

does anybody know when gods and glory will be live

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Nope

#

After switch release sometime

#

And switch release is unknown

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:02 PM

#

@young walrus

📎 unknown.png

#

can't jump up

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 2:04 PM

#

Shade skip. Boyee

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:07 PM

#

📎 20180610-220637619.flv

mossy pike Jun 10, 2018, 2:10 PM

#

or try pushing an ennemy from above and ennemy pogo+shade skip lel

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:11 PM

#

📎 20180610-221104219.flv

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 2:12 PM

#

Shade, not wraiths

#

So die there, come back, and pogo your dead self

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:12 PM

#

= =

#

I try that

#

I have tried that

#

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#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 2:18 PM

#

Did you die on the thorns next to the jump? Looks like you died by the two enemies

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:19 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

the third photo

#

this one

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 2:23 PM

#

On the left side?

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:25 PM

#

up or under

#

要么在上面，要么在下面。在上面拉不过来，下面魂都收不回。

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

As close to the end of the area as you can

#

So you hit the next respawn trigger

lucid pond Jun 10, 2018, 2:33 PM

#

😂 I am going to

#

sleep

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 2:39 PM

#

I got a semi decent score

📎 Lets_go.jpg

#

I'm not as rusty as I thought

#

this was hard btw

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 2:57 PM

#

Even better now

📎 LETS_VGO_2.jpg

#

real fun mod

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 4:51 PM

#

So I'll have to reclaim second-to-last spot

#

Sigh

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 4:57 PM

#

do it

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

#

Heu Gradow

#

You can probably beat me if you tried

small scarab Jun 10, 2018, 5:21 PM

#

@everyone anyone got a mod for mac that works?

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:22 PM

#

wow first of all

#

don't even try to ping at everyone

#

and second of all... all of them? Except for 753's stuff

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 5:26 PM

#

hornetping

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:26 PM

#

100000 IQ

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:45 PM

#

Quick question. Are these scores using GrimmChildUpgrades

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:45 PM

#

no

#

other mods are banned for getting high scores, ofc.

#

you can use grimmchild upgrades but only if you don't have grimmchild on so it doesn't matter.

#

and I guess mods that don't affect the nkg fight or your character at all are ok

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:46 PM

#

ok

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 5:46 PM

#

I technically had Mantis gods enabled

#

what a cheater

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:46 PM

#

REEE score deletit

#

/s

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:47 PM

#

i don't think heavy broken is allowed to be used sadly

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 5:48 PM

#

that would just make it harder

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:49 PM

#

can't wait for someone to get a 400k score with blackmoth

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

Veru got 70k without Blackmoth

#

Time to go for 1mil with Blackmoth

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

it was 70k

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

My finger slipped

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

corny

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

it was 77777777777777777777777777k

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

Yeah

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

activate grubberfly
stand in center
go to sleep

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

Veru shpuld know what results he gets

#

It must have been 77777777777777777777777777k

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

1 mil pretty easy just heal build for 15 hours

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

Probably

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

pretty easy
play for 15 hours

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

take a sleep break

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

you mean quick focus shape of unn?

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

You mean Quicjfocus Deepfocus Shepa of Unn

#

...

#

S H E P A

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

you butchered every single one of those charm names

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

Yeah

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

sherpa

exotic venture Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

booze up

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

Blame it on the keyboard

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

what kb do you have

flat forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

I'm on my phone

#

So,a very tiny one

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 5:58 PM

#

📎 20180610135829_1.jpg

#

man

#

hes fast af at the end

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 5:59 PM

#

I'll beat every record myself using only Hell Mod

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

@vernal forum is that normal

#

actually nvm

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

no

#

it was getting faster

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

it's normal mode

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

how do you switch

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

edit config file

#

it's in the saves folder

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

ok

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

read the readme or get over 15k

#

kek

hazy sentinel Jun 10, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

if it were hard you would've had to start the fight at -234 geo for that final geo total to make sense 🤔

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

they did the math

#

at least, he did

vernal forum Jun 10, 2018, 6:02 PM

#

I see

#

guess ill go for attempt #2 on hard mode

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

Almost got 5k =/

📎 LETS_GIIEFJNEF.jpg

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

What's the best build for this anyway?

#

I went pure nail because I'm pogoing too much

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

graig used a heal build

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

isn't the max heal during stagger 3 though?

#

unless deep focus + quick I guess

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

3 + quick focus + deep focus

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

graig used heal build. veru used pure nail

#

I think those are the only two viable builds in the lategame but idk

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

trinomi used a spell build