hk-discussion

[keen saffron]

._.

[wind garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-blender-ssoggycat-shark-soggy-cat-gif-16395386061673462261

[empty lynx]

soggy cat :(

[ember stone]

i didnt even know that was possible until today

crazy

[keen saffron]

soon im going to beat pv in 16 seconds

no wait that isnt hwo you say it

[copper spruce]

Soggy cat

[foggy sable]

that was not a good p1 section but it is fine

[wind garnet]

[copper spruce]

pon der

[foggy sable]

finally the SoB curse is broken

[velvet chasm]

wdym?

[foggy sable]

I lost several runs in a row there before

[velvet chasm]

Then practise in HoG

[foggy sable]

it isn't that

[velvet chasm]

Luck?

[foggy sable]

at this point losing runs there is just an issue

I spent time overseas when I was younger @shrewd nymph

so I still have the ever so slight remnant of a british accent

[worthy peak]

But you could do -1rab no

:D

[foggy sable]

(basically a less strong australian accent)

[foggy sable]

I could if I could find a way to not do phase 1

[velvet chasm]

so you can't beat p5 but you can do r1ab?

[foggy sable]

this is r5ab runs

[velvet chasm]

ohh

[foggy sable]

which is why losing runs there is so annoying

[velvet chasm]

wait r5ab with like no upgrades or with upgrades?

[flat vigil]

Greyfire any tips for collector pls?

[foggy sable]

because it takes like 15 minutes to get back

[foggy sable]

full equipment p5ab

[velvet chasm]

ok

[worthy peak]

-1rab no is not r1ab

[velvet chasm]

whats -1rab

[foggy sable]

for no upgrades? use spells often

[flat vigil]

OK..

[foggy sable]

take shaman stone and use vengeful spirit to clear minions

[flat vigil]

[worthy peak]

It's radiant 1 damage nail all bindings. No is nail only

[split zenith]

@wind garnet nobody has heard me talk before

[foggy sable]

if you are doing no charms as well...

[flat vigil]

Should I use quickslash

[shrewd nymph]

make this a first

[velvet chasm]

so it's harder than r5ab

[wraith fern]

What's the point of doing 1 damage nail, like it's not even a real challenge

Vanilla one

[worthy peak]

No cause it's only a singular boss

[foggy sable]

I would use shaman, soul eater, spell twister, and idk some others

if this is p5 anyway

[velvet chasm]

but then how do you do all bindings?

[worthy peak]

Vanilla challenges have no extra merit than modded ones imo

[flat vigil]

Thank

[worthy peak]

You already need mods to get a 1 damage nail. You just need an extra one for ab

[foggy sable]

farm soul off the minions and basically spawn kill any aspids you see

[knotty ravine]

1 dmg nail is just BORING

[wraith fern]

Why do you think so

[velvet chasm]

which boss

[knotty ravine]

just use broken nail

[velvet chasm]

thast 5 damage

[knotty ravine]

please

[worthy peak]

Cause why would vannila have extra merit

[split zenith]

I don't think I will

[wraith fern]

What's merit

[knotty ravine]

yea. better than 5 and it still retains the same ideas

[worthy peak]

Uhh good stuff

[split zenith]

that's what I did too

[knotty ravine]

1 dmg is just padding

[wraith fern]

Vanilla goated idk

[worthy peak]

SoB I was recommending to grey... Mainly cause I'm mean

[velvet chasm]

k

[wraith fern]

No you don't

[velvet chasm]

so it's 0/1 nail damage radiant Sisters of Battle with all 4 bindings?

[shrewd nymph]

@frozen storm

[wraith fern]

8-bit meow

[worthy peak]

Yh but also no. Otherwise it wouldn't mean too much to have a rubbish nail

No means nail only

[wraith fern]

Is 0 dmg nail a real challenge

[shrewd nymph]

yes

and theres negative nail dmg to where it heals the boss

[velvet chasm]

oh that's interesting

[wraith fern]

Of course there is

[empty lynx]

so whats the mod that unlocks all bosses and radiant without having to do ascended

[copper spruce]

[worthy peak]

Godseeker plus

[shrewd nymph]

godseeker+

[foggy sable]

I should do phase 2 only some time tbh

[hot void]

i have a really fun challenge idea, r5 with 0.05 nail damage, no upgrades at all and only downslash

[tulip narwhal]

LUNE gn

[shrewd nymph]

gn twin

[tulip narwhal]

No you're sleeping

Its soooo late

[foggy sable]

the humble normal crystal guardian

[shrewd nymph]

tell suscat to sleep

hes up way too late

[tulip narwhal]

@wind garnet Gn

[velvet chasm]

what about no nail?

[copper spruce]

whats a nail

[worthy peak]

Nooooooooo all the brilliant plans ruined!!!!

[wraith fern]

That on your finger

[copper spruce]

That challenge is easy

[worthy peak]

If it wasn't for Cg we would totally do that :D

[copper spruce]

I can play with my nails cut

[foggy sable]

gn @bitter jolt

[hot void]

does a low pogo not hit him?

[bitter jolt]

cya grey o/

[foggy sable]

I know, truly a tragedy

[worthy peak]

In general the damage like that is directional not positional

So no

[foggy sable]

also why is my average p5ab time nowadays 2 hours

[hot void]

just use spore shroom for cg charms are allowed

[foggy sable]

is it perhaps spending an hour of it paused

[velvet chasm]

@worthy peak how do you set it to 1 damage?

[worthy peak]

That's upgraded

[hot void]

debug

[foggy sable]

open debug then decrease nail damage

[velvet chasm]

yeah ik but when i hide menu it goes to 0

[worthy peak]

Wait are you actually doing it? Don't it's miserable

[velvet chasm]

then i can't get soul

[velvet chasm]

I'm bored

[worthy peak]

Also configurable abilities mod works

[worthy peak]

Yh and the entire idea behind this challenge is pretty much being boring

[hot void]

just do anyrad

it's a fun boss

[velvet chasm]

thats too hard

[hot void]

it's literally not

[split zenith]

thanks

[hot void]

80 hours tops

[worthy peak]

Easier than this

[split zenith]

@wind garnet you gave some advice where to keep going

[worthy peak]

Ehhh

[split zenith]

can you repeat it

oh that makes so much sense

[worthy peak]

80 hours is a reasonable amount I wouldn't call It the max at all...

[split zenith]

wtf

thansk

[hot void]

i wanna do anyrad but i also wanna run 112

well i cant do a 112 for like 2 weeks anyways

[velvet chasm]

no way

[hot void]

that's like 100 hours

[velvet chasm]

i can't even beat absrad on radiant

[hot void]

how hard is anyrad climb btw?

cus last time i played ppl were glazing it

[worthy peak]

Uhh it's super easy

Unless you want to do it properly

In which case it's literally impossible

[hot void]

whats the easy strat?

[worthy peak]

Just go for it and hope

[hot void]

oh

phase 1 and 2 are easy

plats sound like hell

[worthy peak]

It's surprisingly lenient

[hot void]

how much hp does it have?

[worthy peak]

Plats easier than ground

[worthy peak]

5000 total I think

[hot void]

whats the build ppl use?

[worthy peak]

But that includes the 720 bonus you don't have to do

[worthy peak]

Strength quickslash stalwart shell steady body and baldurs shell

[hot void]

stalward ew

[velvet chasm]

what mod for all bindings

[worthy peak]

Toggleable bindings

[hot void]

if i do climb like that why would i use baldur

[worthy peak]

Say that about baldurs of anything

[worthy peak]

Most people don't do climb the easy way

[hot void]

are you sure thats the easy way?

[worthy peak]

Cause it's not consistent at all

[worthy peak]

Well it's easy in the sense it requires less skill

[worthy peak]

Actually that's untrue

[foggy sable]

a run past collector

[hot void]

last time i tried anyrad i had dash on q but i managed to get to plats once in 9h

[worthy peak]

If you enter climb full health you are probably fine

[hot void]

wasd dash on q and spell on f

that was horrible

[worthy peak]

[worthy peak]

It is?

[hot void]

no shit

[foggy sable]

why is collector consistent-ish

[hot void]

right casts are weird and left dash is weird

[velvet chasm]

where to activate?

[worthy peak]

Okie so i disagree...

[hot void]

it's objectively bad

[worthy peak]

Up and super dash near bench

[hot void]

it's not an opinion

[worthy peak]

Guh

It's so not

Right cast is so much better

[hot void]

to move left and dash you have to move your fingers from movement

[bold turret]

i'm getting so much more consistent at first cycle room3 pop, that's cool

[hot void]

and to cast you have to move movement keys

[frigid terrace]

Bro just did not read the message

[worthy peak]

That's so fine plus you have pinky

[hot void]

wtf is your pinky gonna do

[worthy peak]

Press dash

[frigid terrace]

I encourage you to put you hands on that position and see how useful your pinky is

[hot void]

its on q

youll mess up all your fingers like that

[worthy peak]

Okie I forgot how keyboard was shaped...

[hot void]

it's literally just horrible binds

[worthy peak]

But also I think I can work with pinky still

[hot void]

no it cant

[worthy peak]

Not perfect but totally readonable

[hot void]

its not

especially not for anyrad

[bold turret]

i personally have dash on caps (edit : oh, yeh, it's called shift ) so i use my pinky for it

[hot void]

i have dash on shift

cast on up arrow

[foggy sable]

gn everyone

ew r5ab

that was a fun vc

[hot void]

cant you like say it in the vc

[worthy peak]

I could totally get used to this

[shrewd nymph]

i do tend to forget that there are other people in the vc

[shrewd nymph]

they locked those chats for wtv reason

its silly

[foggy sable]

no vc chats

[hot void]

i meant use the mic

[shrewd nymph]

most people dont talk in them

[foggy sable]

it is vc **and **screen sharing

[shrewd nymph]

there was about 3 of us talking there in a ~15 man vc

[hot void]

damn

only time im on mute is if im doing stuff

[split zenith]

bye lune and suscat

[shrewd nymph]

gn

gl on rad 1.0

[hot void]

I'll beat it in 2 hours

does anyrad make you better or worse at absrad?

[zinc iris]

Damn

[split zenith]

wtf was that

[shrewd nymph]

the first few attempts of absrad worse

[split zenith]

hi herb

[shrewd nymph]

because ur used to anyrad

[zinc iris]

Tht was pain

Hello

[shrewd nymph]

but afterwards you play better

[hot void]

fuck

omd i have so much shit to do

[foggy sable]

sideways

[frigid terrace]

Aren't there custom replacement channels that appear when you join VC

[hot void]

i need to do anyrad, work on skips, do segments, work on oc p5, work on colos and learn a route

[foggy sable]

basically it is like spending time in absrad but a tad less effective for improving it is just people spend a lot of time on anyrad

so get a lot better

[hot void]

i just wanna shriek in circle

only reaosn im doing anyrad

might get a heart attack before im home at this rate

heart has been hurting all day

[zinc iris]

U seem to have gotten much better since last time I saw u @split zenith

[worthy peak]

is so fun :D

[wind garnet]

Grey on any rad

[split zenith]

really?

[velvet chasm]

It's not, i almsot finished it

[worthy peak]

which boss

[split zenith]

thanks

[foggy sable]

I'll do it one day

[wind garnet]

[foggy sable]

so that I've done something impressive

[zinc iris]

Looks like it to me
Seems more flow when u play
And more orb consistency

[worthy peak]

Wait can you repeat the challenge to me

[worthy peak]

cause im slightly doubtful sorry.

[wind garnet]

Yuh

🔥

[lilac knot]

hello

[worthy peak]

hi

[lilac knot]

r u the guy i had a coversation with about food

[onyx violet]

Nya

Shikonokonoko

[lilac knot]

have u seen it

[thick heart]

What do you guys even do bruh

[lilac knot]

who are you

[gloomy scarab]

Yo mama

[wind garnet]

Old ahh dude

[gloomy scarab]

Who

[wind garnet]

🫵

[lilac knot]

im gonna design a fakemon, dragon type but i dont know the second type

someone help\

[split zenith]

wtf ddx

hi

[worthy peak]

steel.

[lilac knot]

ok

[foggy sable]

I turned my music on too loud and couldnt hear uumuu

[gloomy scarab]

Hello

[lilac knot]

i made a drawing of noivern but i cant send it because my computer has no camera

[gloomy scarab]

Ghost

[lilac knot]

ok

[thick heart]

You have phone

[lilac knot]

no have phone

[sick mica]

guys can i ask if something is good?

i got nkg to 25% on around my 10th try

[velvet chasm]

SoB, i got them all to around half hp

it just takes a while

[gloomy scarab]

Some people are walled by NKG for a long time so yeah good job

[worthy peak]

yh which is a huge threat when radiant

[velvet chasm]

yeah, i did it on radiant

[worthy peak]

and you havent done rad absrad?

[velvet chasm]

no

rad absrad is really hard

[worthy peak]

well thats like insane

[keen saffron]

rad absrad is pretty hard

[velvet chasm]

yeah but i practiced SoB alot

[keen saffron]

idk how i managed to do her hitless

[velvet chasm]

with enchanced hallownest

[worthy peak]

yh but we are comparing to 1 nail damage nail only SoB radiant

[keen saffron]

ohhhhhh

thats even harder

[gloomy scarab]

Usually a combination of patience and spell timing

[worthy peak]

thats roughly 3000 nail hits

[velvet chasm]

WAIT not nail only

[keen saffron]

cause that requires a lot of patience

like

a LOT

[worthy peak]

oooh

[velvet chasm]

if i did nail only i would give up

[worthy peak]

thats what the no was for

[lilac knot]

i have to poop\

[velvet chasm]

yeah, but you said i could choose or smth

[worthy peak]

I dont remember saying that... hmm...

[velvet chasm]

no not that exactly

lemme find it

#hk-discussion message

[foggy sable]

A run into p4

[velvet chasm]

ig i thought from this

[foggy sable]

aaaaaa

[velvet chasm]

there was no "no"

[zinc iris]

No hits?

[foggy sable]

correct

my 4th best run ever

[zinc iris]

Damn this could be the attempt gl

[foggy sable]

nerves are very bad rn

as always in a good run

[worthy peak]

oh yh, i see how that gave that impression

[foggy sable]

I just need enough far runs that nerves don't start until later

[worthy peak]

but like I said it in that way cause i was anwsering i direct question

and every previous time id included no

[velvet chasm]

yeah

im kinda dumb ngl

[worthy peak]

its a very fair mistake to make

[velvet chasm]

if i got that far with nail only i would be cheating

I'll do that later though

[split zenith]

thanks...

[zinc iris]

Tough runs

[split zenith]

I don't remember what it was but it wasn't the run

[split zenith]

yeah I'm playing like crap rn

[zinc iris]

I was telling grey...

[split zenith]

oh mb I wasn't reading the chat

[foggy sable]

I am just sitting at the bench trying to I guess calm down

[zinc iris]

Which bench

White def

Or h2

[foggy sable]

hornet 2 still

why have 3 runs got to p4 in like the last week

[zinc iris]

Gotta go after this one gl if u continue @split zenith

Gl to u too
U got this @foggy sable

[bold turret]

damn grey got refrosted, i didn't notice

[foggy sable]

tytyty

[worthy peak]

r04 has no right to be as stressful as it is.
Like anyrad is just so much less nervewracking even in final, and its almost undeniably rarer to get that far for anyrad D:

[foggy sable]

r04 absrad?

[worthy peak]

literally any multiple phase boss

[foggy sable]

r04 sounds way worse than 04r

[split zenith]

what

[zinc iris]

Unfortunate

[split zenith]

[worthy peak]

my typing muscle memory has been created. its too late

[zinc iris]

Well cya nonsenf

[split zenith]

alright thanks for sticking around!

[foggy sable]

I used r04 initially

you can change

[zinc iris]

Aren't these the same

[worthy peak]

but if i use 04r then i cant say r045

[zinc iris]

Just rearranged

[worthy peak]

and have to be reasonable

[foggy sable]

they are

but 04r sounds better

[zinc iris]

Oh u meant acronym

[foggy sable]

yes

[zinc iris]

Thought it was a diff challenge

[compact wasp]

Congrats on hitting p4 again grey

[foggy sable]

tyy!

[compact wasp]

Ye you are improving really fast

[foggy sable]

if the consistency is not just temporary I might get the run some time this year

[foggy sable]

I know this but it doesn't feel like it

[compact wasp]

I assure you that you are

Sometimes feelings lie to us

[foggy sable]

collector feels more consistent for sure

[compact wasp]

That is awesome

[foggy sable]

if only galien would be the same

[compact wasp]

galien has a way of just becoming overwhelming

[foggy sable]

doing less shrieks is making it more manageable

[lilac knot]

i just sharpened all my colored pencils

uou don neeed to know that

[compact wasp]

that's great

[knotty ravine]

r04 is better

[lilac knot]

im gonna draw

[thin violet]

What are you gonna draw?

[lilac knot]

a fakemon dragon

[thin violet]

ah cool

[lilac knot]

someone telll me a secondary type

[worthy peak]

guh since when did no-eyes have 3 phases...

[foggy sable]

does she?

[warm aurora]

Phases?

[thin violet]

electric

[lilac knot]

it gets fatser and spawns more the more damage

[warm aurora]

I thought it was gradual

[lilac knot]

dragon electric is cool

[worthy peak]

2.25 per attack first pahse 1.75 seconf 1.25 3rd

3rd phase is <90 2nd <150 apparently

[meager shoal]

Since when 💔

[lilac knot]

should it fly or be grounded

[quartz cave]

oh wrong infi

i mean end

enddeous

[warm aurora]

How do decimals apply here?

Oh wait, seconds between ghosts?

[worthy peak]

they are seconds per attack not spirits per attack

[warm aurora]

And always 1 spirit per attack?

Or more

[lilac knot]

and the teleport rate increases

[worthy peak]

Though i think she summons more than one at once Im not sure

[warm aurora]

Maybe 1 per side

[worthy peak]

huh?

[warm aurora]

Otherwise that adds up quickly

[bold turret]

i'm pretty sure it's always 1/3 per hit

[lilac knot]

she starts teleporting more

[warm aurora]

And per hit has a 1/5 chance?

That could throw you of as thinking she teleports more

[worthy peak]

no its always 1/3 there...

[warm aurora]

Good to know

[lilac knot]

-b

[knotty ravine]

what’s the convo

[worthy peak]

Im fairly certain at least...

[warm aurora]

I thought the other 1/3 had to do with time and I just remembered 1/5 somewhere

[warm aurora]

No eyes

[lilac knot]

no eyes

[warm aurora]

Technicalities

[knotty ravine]

fuck no eyes

that’s all I have to contribute here

[lilac knot]

agreed

[bold turret]

no eyes is fun on ascended arena

[dusky coral]

no fun

[knotty ravine]

to an extent but let’s be real bestie

[warm aurora]

I found ascended/radiant not too bad with mop qs strength elegy

[lilac knot]

who here has seen epic the musical?

[bold turret]

i love bosses that are not only bosses but also platforming challenges so i like umuu (not in overworld though, the oomas make it fun), and markoth/no eyes ascended arena

[warm aurora]

As someone with an epic tag
Nope

[lilac knot]

you should

[warm aurora]

I do like uumuu in godhome

Jelly trickshots

[lilac knot]

should i make my dragon electric type fakemon fly or stay grounded

[neon root]

just watched michael and apparently mj was in a small group called jackson 5 at first

[lilac knot]

u didnt know that

[neon root]

no but im surprised they weren't bigger with michael jackson in it

[lilac knot]

oh

should my dragon electric type fly or not

[worthy peak]

everyone knows that godhome uumuu is the good one :D

[lilac knot]

i hate u

quirrel is the best character

[worthy peak]

what... why???? D:

[hot void]

cant wait for someone to find a bug with lp flukenest

[lilac knot]

godhome uumuu sucks

[hot void]

its ez if youre patient

[worthy peak]

you have so much more control of the fight though

[lilac knot]

should my dragon electric type fly or not

[hot void]

just shad soul the jellyfish into uumuu

[worthy peak]

plus oomas deal 100 damage each, far more useful than quirrel

[bold turret]

cloth better

[lilac knot]

i know but the amount of rng needed in the godhome version is anoying

[hot void]

0 rng but wtv

[worthy peak]

its not actually super rng

[hot void]

only rng dependant thing is the speed you kill it

[worthy peak]

like with quirrel number of attacks is randomised as well

[lilac knot]

there is no pattern of when he does the screech uuma summon

[hot void]

ok well does the speed really matter?

[lilac knot]

true but quirrel is a cool character

so i dont care

should my dragon electric type fly or not

[bold turret]

we love quirrel, but WHY does he need to wait an extra attack randomly before attacking umuu

[worthy peak]

yes it should fly or not

[lilac knot]

ok

[thorny pasture]

That's like asking "what is the meaning of life?"

[worthy peak]

Doesnt make the fight better.

[remote elbow]

Is it just me or does white defender say chewbacca when he does the wall attack thing

[worthy peak]

Thats a seperate thing and purely bais

[bold turret]

you got the nice kasaaaa! sounds, emotional support

[thorny pasture]

A

[lilac knot]

im gonna ddraw

[worthy peak]

okie... thats a good point actually...

[hot void]

@worthy peak youve done anyrad right?

[worthy peak]

yh

[hot void]

can you help w it

[worthy peak]

but i play with sound often sometimes

[worthy peak]

i can try

[velvet chasm]

whats harder anyrad or enchanced absrad?

[worthy peak]

what part are you struggling on

[hot void]

the bus ride on the way home

[worthy peak]

anyrad was designed to be impossible absrad enhanced was esigned for those who have done p5

[velvet chasm]

so which one?

[worthy peak]

so anyrad

[velvet chasm]

k

[hot void]

whats avg comp time of anyrad?

[worthy peak]

No idea

[hot void]

how long did it take you?

[worthy peak]

I took longer than average

but 100 hours roughly

[remote elbow]

Omg white defender is ao easy

[thin violet]

I JUST DID NAIL ONLY RCC

[hot void]

okay then I'll have time

[thin violet]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[hot void]

whats that

[remote elbow]

Took me like 7 attemps

[worthy peak]

🔥

[hot void]

radiant what

[thin violet]

radiant champions call

pale court

[hot void]

oh

[split zenith]

good job

[hot void]

i havent played pale court

[split zenith]

sounds crazy

[thin violet]

ty ty

[prisma cradle]

Hello Chicken!

[remote elbow]

Guys whats every dream boss ?

[hot void]

hi

[hot void]

i hate all equally

or marmu cus it dies the fastest

[foggy sable]

past white defender very nice

[prisma cradle]

DONT ahve the energy to list them

[thin violet]

markoth, marmu, galien, gorb, no eyes, xero, &... im forgetting a warrior

[hot void]

bro i almost died traitor lord my p5 run

[foggy sable]

hu

[bold turret]

easy version of the enhanced absrad fight is definitely easier, i dont know about the hard version

[hot void]

no youre not

[thin violet]

oh thats right that little shit

[thin violet]

i forgot elder hu

[hot void]

hu is not a warrior

[prisma cradle]

It says that you have 93% and you are doing p5?

[thin violet]

hu is a nuisance of the highest degree lol

[hot void]

he's like an alcoholic dad

[worthy peak]

Markoth, galien, gorb, no eyes, elder hu, xero, and NO OTHERS

[hot void]

no im gonna do anyrad

[foggy sable]

...

[velvet chasm]

hard version?

[foggy sable]

angry game of pong

[hot void]

what THE fuck does your name mean

[worthy peak]

theres a hrad version... oh

[prisma cradle]

? You are doing the hardest things in thegame but you don’t even have 100%

[velvet chasm]

HKE of pain

[hot void]

1.0 is not the hardest thing

[hot void]

whats hke

[velvet chasm]

architect mod

[bold turret]

i think there's a toggle in allhallownestenhanced which allows you to fight another version of enhanced absrad

[thin violet]

481 attempts and over 14 hours for rcc nail only... jesus

[prisma cradle]

P5 and absrad is still something a 93% should not be doing

[hot void]

i said anyrad

[velvet chasm]

oh no, that one is js for true ending

[prisma cradle]

Why do you only have 93%

[prisma cradle]

Even worse

[hot void]

it's a random number

[worthy peak]

(lying name)

[velvet chasm]

i think 93% with infection bomb

[remote elbow]

Thats warriors they suck to much to be bosses i mean like lost kin and shit

[hot void]

no

[velvet chasm]

oh

[thin violet]

lost kin best boss

[velvet chasm]

87% with infection bomb?

[prisma cradle]

Oh thanks strawberry

[hot void]

no

[velvet chasm]

what %????

[hot void]

i havwnt done infection bomb since 2022

[velvet chasm]

and why 87 and 93

[hot void]

because i felt like it

[remote elbow]

I have one more dream boss i think but idk who that is

[velvet chasm]

😑

[worthy peak]

oh, lost kin, white defender, GPZ, radiance, NKG,failed champion, soul tyrant.

did i miss any

radiance and nkg dont give essence

[remote elbow]

How do i get to grey prince zote?

[prisma cradle]

Maybe soul master

[velvet chasm]

white defender 2,3,4,5

[compact wasp]

grey. I managed to go hitless from oblobbles to markoth

[hot void]

not gonna lie i did blindfolded r5 but i forgot to look

[remote elbow]

Rhats normal apul tyrant

[thin violet]

revek

[foggy sable]

that is really good!

[worthy peak]

uhh its in brettas house

[hot void]

did you not say gn an hr ago

[compact wasp]

fricking oblobbles lol

[foggy sable]

I've only done one segment in the last 40 minutes

[remote elbow]

Wheres that ?

[compact wasp]

if they weren't there this would have been such a MASSIVE pb

[foggy sable]

I left vc

[worthy peak]

dirtmouth

[thin violet]

Oblobbles arent that bad lol

[foggy sable]

I was saying gn to everyone else who left

[worthy peak]

just right of iseldas

[hot void]

oh

[foggy sable]

I've been doing the same p5ab run the whole time

well and some distractions

[hot void]

bro screenshake somehow came back mid run for me

generational throw

[remote elbow]

WHERES BRETTAS HOUSE

[prisma cradle]

Hello @compact wasp !

[prisma cradle]

At dirtmouth

[worthy peak]

i said. dirtmouth just right of iseldas

[thin violet]

did you rescue bretta?

[remote elbow]

Cool thanjs

[hot void]

at bretta

[remote elbow]

Yes

[prisma cradle]

Did you rescue Zote?

[thin violet]

phew

fuck zote

[hot void]

not a req

[worthy peak]

? yes it is though?

[hot void]

so not doing gpz locks you from 112?

[void river]

never rescued him and im glad even tho ur not asking me

[foggy sable]

incorrect

[worthy peak]

no? why would it

[thin violet]

yeah gpz is a conjured up image of what bretta think zote is, she cant exactly do that without meeting him lol

[hot void]

cus bretta has a mask shard

[foggy sable]

you can go in the house once you save bretta

[worthy peak]

thats a seperate thing

[hot void]

yeah exactly

zote aint a req

[thin violet]

if you rescue bretta and zote isnt alive you can still get the mask shard lmao

[worthy peak]

doesnt mean rescueing zote isnt necessary to fight gpz

[hot void]

it locks you on that path

[void river]

you get the mask shard either way cuz all you gotta do is save bretta for the mask shard

[hot void]

if you dont save zote and get claw he dies

[hot void]

thats what i said

[void river]

well i wasnt reading but ok

[worthy peak]

Im so confused. whats not a rq for what?

[foggy sable]

I'm so scared about this run

[worthy peak]

you got this!!!

[hot void]

zote is not a req for bretta house

[foggy sable]

it is just sitting there in the background

wanting me to do soul tyrant

[worthy peak]

no-one said it was

[hot void]

you literally did

[hot void]

.

[void river]

soul tyrant aint that bad ngl

[worthy peak]

in reply to your statement that rescuing zote wasnt a requirement to what i assumed was GPZ

cause why would i assume you meant brettas house

[hot void]

they were looking for brettas house

[void river]

larp

[thin violet]

soooo... whats everyones favourite boss? Mines lost kin

[void river]

LaRp

[sweet blaze]

Gpz mentioned

[astral condor]

js annoying cus he keeps tping

[sweet blaze]

Ok bye

[worthy peak]

After that was concluded it was asked about t hough.
And GPZ was the goal of finding brettas house

[sweet blaze]

Gpz mentioned again guh

[astral condor]

nkg

[sweet blaze]

Ok bye

[worthy peak]

Absolute radiance

[thin violet]

fair fair

[foggy sable]

sheo

[void river]

mine is Pure Vessel and a second is NKG

[velvet chasm]

enhanced SoB

[thin violet]

ooo interesting, i think you're the first person i've met like that boss lol

[hot void]

all suck equally

[sweet blaze]

Gpz, the objectively best boss ofc

[tropic nest]

Zote

[thin violet]

fair

[thin violet]

and respectable

[sweet blaze]

Holy based

[worthy peak]

huh really?

[void river]

I used to say NKG was better tbh but now i like PV now

[worthy peak]

I just liked it cause it was hardest i think...

[tropic nest]

Can barely do rab but its the most fun by a good margin

[thin violet]

Yeah, everyone who talks about absrad after doing like p5 or rad absrad hate it

in my experience at least

[void river]

opinions man

[thin violet]

both are respectable

[worthy peak]

[thin violet]

i'd like to think its just burnout from trying to get radhog or complete p5 for the first time

[hot void]

alr time to start anyrad

[void river]

When someone says their opinion on sum, a different guy will get easily ragebaited sometimes

[foggy sable]

I like zote but I hate the fight in p5

[hot void]

burnout from that is crazy work

[warm aurora]

As someone who hasnt done rad absrad but has done p5 after way too long on this boss its not my favorite but I feel it can be good if I just mastered it more, I said the same about zote and I really like that boss now because I know it well

[void river]

from my experience

[astral condor]

goodluck!!

[zinc delta]

i just realised if warm milk is supposed to make you sleepy then why doesn't tea make you sleepy

[thin violet]

i hated her my first time around doing rad absrad lol

[hot void]

because tea has caffeine

[worthy peak]

Smh. just get lucky super early on so rad#absrad only takes like 8 hours :D

[warm aurora]

Deja vu image

[compact wasp]

a 3 hit run this time

[hot void]

what?

[compact wasp]

one on oblobbles and 2 on markoth

[foggy sable]

nice!

[void river]

real

[foggy sable]

I'm still sitting at the wd bench

it is scary

[zinc delta]

so it balances out?

[compact wasp]

you got there hitless?

[foggy sable]

yes

[compact wasp]

oh god

[worthy peak]

Come on... Don't let fear get hte better of you!!!

[compact wasp]

that would be horrifying

[foggy sable]

that is why I am sitting here instead of doing it

[worthy peak]

You got this!!!

[void river]

guys what is your least fav area in the hk map?

[warm aurora]

Second to last bench?

[thin violet]

that is what happened to me lol. though i think its was like 5-6 hours for me

[worthy peak]

waterways

[compact wasp]

fungal wastes

and waterways

[foggy sable]

yes

[warm aurora]

:o

[compact wasp]

tyrant markoth zote

[foggy sable]

it is joint pb now

[void river]

ive never seen someone hate on fungal wastes. what a day it is then

[foggy sable]

or better

[thin violet]

i did rad absrad for radhog, i did not like the thought of absrad for a while after doing that because she was a pain in my ass

[compact wasp]

the area literally feels pointless

[warm aurora]

R5ab?

[foggy sable]

yes

[worthy peak]

The acid is really annoying...

[warm aurora]

:O

[hot void]

theres also no melatonin in tea

[void river]

uhh. js.. dont fall?

[compact wasp]

its not the acid

[hot void]

also it doesnt really help

[astral condor]

prolly fog canyon cus I always get lost in it idk why

[compact wasp]

I just don't like the vibe of the area in wastes

its just there

[astral condor]

but honestly theyre all pretty good compared to the areas in silksong..

[void river]

i dont like fog canyon cuz of the exploding eggs

[worthy peak]

Guh... I can't do that im rushing through and will dunk in every bit of acid in the tall room garaunteed

[compact wasp]

take a breather

[void river]

skill issue icl

[compact wasp]

you got this

[foggy sable]

I'm actually so nervous

this is the true feeling of these runs

[worthy peak]

The problem with an area being a skill issue does not make it not a problem. its not like im claiming its rng or impossible

[warm aurora]

Put that energy in your advantage

[compact wasp]

yep

[worthy peak]

Just annoying

[void river]

an area being a skill issue?

[compact wasp]

i thought strawb hated waterways

[worthy peak]

huh? I didnt say that

[compact wasp]

which one are tehy referring to?

waterways or fungal wastes?

[void river]

uhhh you did

[warm aurora]

Does look like it

[worthy peak]

I hate waterways. I dislike deepnest, I have a slight annoyance from acid in fungal

[hot void]

nice my dad forgot to turn on internet so i cant share anyrad attempts for an hr

[worthy peak]

No i said the problem with an area being a skill issue

The subject is The problem. with an area is elaboration on the subject

but not the subject itself

[void river]

oh

[compact wasp]

so you dislike waterways because you don't like being careful?

[void river]

well i got confused

[compact wasp]

and it forces you to be careful?

[worthy peak]

I dislike waterways for many many reason

[warm aurora]

Does anyone have a good guess how long greys current r5ab segment takes?

[foggy sable]

the current run is about 2 hours long

but I haven't been playing for most of that

[compact wasp]

23 minutes

or more

atleast 23 minutes

[foggy sable]

played well here to end is about 15 minutes

[hot void]

is blind radience considered cheating?

[warm aurora]

Long challange runs really are insane

[foggy sable]

if I don't pause a run is about 65 minutes

well 55-65

[worthy peak]

One - those sounds are really annoying,
Two - Those enemies shouldnt get to be immortal for a bit after getting up. They look moving but they are not.
Three - Theres dark areas i ahte that for caarefullness reason
four theres acid - I dislike that for carefullness yes
five - theres the big enemies that deal double damage and im abd at them
six - junk pit is a hardsave on first entry.
seven - I dont know may way around it.

[warm aurora]

I have done a 4.5 hour "speedrun" once but not really optimised, basically a first in the category

[worthy peak]

90% of this is skill issue yes

[steel vortex]

can I use a microsoft flight sim stick as a controler

[warm aurora]

And not near perfect at all

[warm aurora]

With programming skills probably
Idk, you might not even need those

[compact wasp]

i came to waterways in my first run without lantern

you can imagine my horror

[steel vortex]

ok ty I prob can

[worthy peak]

no - I cant. Thats how bad it is...

Im so sorry...

[compact wasp]

imagine not knowing anything about hk

[warm aurora]

In my first run I entered waterways via kingdoms edge and immediately found eternal something npc

[compact wasp]

and going through waterways without lantern

[worthy peak]

So... My imagination person just died

[glad dagger]

4 playthroughts later I still died at the last room where you deliver delicate flower

Fuck this shit bro

[hot void]

omd only half spike first attempt

[compact wasp]

honesty I think the ONLY reason I didn't die was shade soul

[hot void]

this will be a long one

are there any mods to skip the intro?

[worthy peak]

Coming in clutch as always !!!

[worthy peak]

QoL

[foggy sable]

pb!

no death to tyrant

[compact wasp]

tyrant?

[worthy peak]

Yeah!!!!

[compact wasp]

that's a great pb

[foggy sable]

pb was tyrant

and this is now past that

[compact wasp]

tyrant just

interlaces with attacks

[subtle glacier]

gg pb

[hot void]

is it auromatic or a setting in it

[worthy peak]

its default

i think

[hot void]

can i run twister instead of shell?

if im not gonna do that on climb anyways

[young lake]

i was sleeping

[worthy peak]

I wouldnt recommend it

[hot void]

what do i run then

[worthy peak]

stalwart is important on climb even withotu baldurs flickering

[hot void]

i was talking abt baldur shell

[worthy peak]

oh yeah then switching to twister is fine imo

still not super reccommended

[hot void]

what do i use then

[worthy peak]

but less bad than the other option

[delicate coral]

gg

[foggy sable]

past markoth

[lilac knot]

i just finished drawing an electric dragon noivern

[hot void]

how the fuck do i have void heart unequipped

[young lake]

oh r running anyrad

[lilac knot]

wut

[worthy peak]

well uhh... Im confused now...

[foggy sable]

I need to pause for a sec again

[hot void]

if i dont use baldur what do i use

[lilac knot]

im gonna eat waffles

[warm aurora]

Insane!

[worthy peak]

Quickslash strength stalwart twister and steady body i guess

[hot void]

yeah what else is there to use?

[keen saffron]

can't wait to spend 300 hours learning how to speedrun hk

this is going to be fun

[worthy peak]

well i used MoP instead and dropped steadyy body

[keen saffron]

yeah

[warm aurora]

Breath

[worthy peak]

twister would be usual

[hot void]

it takes like 3hrs to "learn"

[worthy peak]

carefree is also a very good option here

[hot void]

can you not face dance

[keen saffron]

explain

[hot void]

what catagory are you gonna run

[worthy peak]

You can facedance without steadybody

[hot void]

its way harder

[keen saffron]

any% nmg

[worthy peak]

i disagree

[hot void]

that does not take 300hrs to learn

[worthy peak]

I find it easier with sb right now

[subtle glacier]

i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but genuinely yeah it’s a blast

[worthy peak]

its slightly hardder overall probably

but its really not that much difference

[hot void]

im not gonna re learn face dance over 1 notch

[worthy peak]

okie. the skills transfer quite well though

[young lake]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16vJ929elDQaH3qHqXztYuObPLMjlvY0C/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=115421482693115076085&rtpof=true&sd=true

look through what people have used

[worthy peak]

But at this point use legacy quickslash and carefree id suggest

[hot void]

cheat doesnt work

[keen saffron]

?????? ok can you execute that consistently in 20 hours

[hot void]

i dont want to use legacy

[hot void]

you said learn

[keen saffron]

yeah i consider executing the speedrun apart of learning

[worthy peak]

learning doesnt have to mean at a base level though

[keen saffron]

^

[young lake]

lqs

[worthy peak]

you are still learning for the entirity of running anything pretty much

[hot void]

ok so do i just use twister or is there a better alternative for 2 nothces?

[worthy peak]

well baldurs shell or no.

[young lake]

sorry why do people bring up lqs as if it wasn't CHEATING.

[keen saffron]

and reaching sub 50 minutes definitely doesnt take 20 hours of practice

[worthy peak]

so yh no thats best

[hot void]

thats like 20 min of practice

[subtle glacier]

i mean depending on how seriously you take it, learning any% could take a lot longer or a lot shorter :)

[worthy peak]

gets you on the list 🤷‍♂️

[nova quest]

same way people bring up charms as if they're not cheating

[keen saffron]

what's your pb

[hot void]

i dont run any%

[young lake]

now i remember why list sucks

[tardy bronze]

I beat P3 for the first time today lets gooo

[subtle glacier]

everyone has an any% pb surely

[worthy peak]

blame fireborn

[subtle glacier]

even if it’s not good

[foggy sable]

of sorts

[worthy peak]

2:52 :D

[hot void]

okay techincally 4hrs 57 min then

[young lake]

95% of my issues on this community are blamed on fireborn

[hot void]

wait no

[delicate coral]

55h?

[hot void]

prolly like 2 hrs smth from when i did achievement

[worthy peak]

[tardy bronze]

what why 💀

[delicate coral]

Im still yet to do the sr achievements

[young lake]

dont worry about it

[worthy peak]

good time

[delicate coral]

fr

[subtle glacier]

surely dk becomes an overworld addict

hop

[delicate coral]

maybe

need to finish p3ab first

[worthy peak]

ew

ab pantheons

[delicate coral]

lol

[hot void]

love the orbs

[delicate coral]

bingy could be cool tbh

[keen saffron]

my current "best" is 2 hours, i can be faster

[delicate coral]

never done it

[worthy peak]

not just could

[delicate coral]

id suck tho

[worthy peak]

will

[hot void]

bro this boss has one hard thing and its orbs

[worthy peak]

Solution. dont do lockout to start with

[subtle glacier]

bingy has a big learning curve i think
but the learning process is very fun

[subtle glacier]

lockout will demotivate you instantly

[worthy peak]

sword rain oh so much worse

[gusty path]

trying bingy is tempting me

[delicate coral]

my general knowledge of overworld stuff is terrible

[subtle glacier]

funky bingy

[hot void]

havent gotten hit by it

[worthy peak]

Wikis!!!

[delicate coral]

true true

[young lake]

ya

if anyrad didn't have orbs like 50% more people would've beat it

[subtle glacier]

bingycord has tons of resources and people who want to help

[hot void]

no like everyone would compelete it

[keen saffron]

whats bingycord

can i have an invite

[young lake]

ykw TRUE

[delicate coral]

ya same choom can u dm me inv

[subtle glacier]

?tag servers

[idle belfry]

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[subtle glacier]

[delicate coral]

Yay

[keen saffron]

wtf is hollow knight bingo

literally just bingo?

[hot void]

overbind has to carry me

[young lake]

bingycord propaganda

[subtle glacier]

is it propaganda if it’s the best thing ever

[worthy peak]

is it really propaganda if its true

[young lake]

at least anycord isn't in there

[foggy sable]

run dead to fc

[hot void]

wow 3 orbs in a row

[foggy sable]

that is fine

[worthy peak]

:(

[subtle glacier]

gg pb!!!

[gusty path]

its like bingy looks fun

[foggy sable]

ty!

[gusty path]

but im bad at the game

[young lake]

idk i'll have to do bingy eventually

[worthy peak]

:D happy as well though

[subtle glacier]

you are NOT bad at the game

[delicate coral]

gg on pb

[foggy sable]

tyty

now I have to practice some bosses at the end of the run perhaps

well not now but still

[delicate coral]

its actually shocking how good you are at hk

[tardy bronze]

Chat is it bad that I find quick focus useful

[delicate coral]

no

[subtle glacier]

qf is great

[tardy bronze]

I know it uses a whole 3 charm notches but I can heal so much more during pantheons 💀

[delicate coral]

yea its really helpful for first clears

[gusty path]

but like idk where anything is

apart from dashmaster

[worthy peak]

is it bad i find a super useful charm overlooked cause people do so many hardd challenges where you dont heal much, useful.

[subtle glacier]

that’s fine, you can learn fast

[gusty path]

true

[worthy peak]

you'll totally suprise yourself!

[subtle glacier]

watching bingy is a good way to get good at bingy

[delicate coral]

icic

[subtle glacier]

not only will you learn about the map but you’ll absorb good room movement

[gusty path]

i need to lock in on any percent tho as well

[worthy peak]

Shame my attention span sucks so much...

[gusty path]

my chungus ass still has a 33

[delicate coral]

absorb? Like learning by osmosis?

[subtle glacier]

yeah

direct eye to muscle correspondence

half of the room movement i know is bc i watch jackmanmarcus play bingy

the other half is bc i watch cron play bingy

[gusty path]

glackmanmarcus

cinema

[subtle glacier]

kinda scared to raise attention to this but there’s a lockout later if people wanna watch

should start in ~3 hours

[ionic tinsel]

i should watch cron play bingy

[gusty path]

its a torney match?

[subtle glacier]

yeah

[gusty path]

67 horsed sized bees

[subtle glacier]

me and done vs vale and psyklone

[gusty path]

my idol

[subtle glacier]

rocket bingue vs 2 bugs no plan

[gusty path]

holy rocket league referance

[subtle glacier]

true

[gusty path]

i used to be so good but im cheeks rn

[keen saffron]

33 minutes is insane

[hot void]

yo i made full spike att 6

is that good?

[wispy willow]

Real

[gusty path]

no its nottt

[magic glacier]

buh

[wispy willow]

What route are you going

[subtle glacier]

funky does lp isma’s

[wispy willow]

The the wings ismas route isnt like aids

[wispy willow]

I think it does

[keen saffron]

yes it is

[gusty path]

its not aids its fun

[gusty path]

it?

[wispy willow]

Blep

[wispy willow]

The route