hk-discussion

[foggy sable]

hiiii hru

[molten yoke]

I’m good thx!! Wbu?

[foggy sable]

In good!

[honest shale]

i just took four hits to soul master

what am i doing

[warm aurora]

:(

[foggy sable]

Getting hit to soul master I think

[honest shale]

i the proceeded to get absolutely fucked by oblobbles

[foggy sable]

oblob

[honest shale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/now-i-get-it-ah

[honest shale]

through the power of big shot
i got big shot

[empty lynx]

oblob

[hidden spire]

@empty lynx

[empty lynx]

everyone: dont fucking ping everyone bro

@mids

[quartz cave]

@dim lance plan updated no more duoing at <t:1779894000:F>

[frozen storm]

@empty lynx @hidden spire @honest shale @foggy sable @quartz cave

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/bus-sad-monkey-orangutan-alone-gif-12652028

[empty lynx]

@guifromninesols

@quartz cave

[honest shale]

@frozen storm

[hidden spire]

Hi

[foggy sable]

@frozen storm

[hidden spire]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HIIXRB9bEAAx4gr.webp

[frozen storm]

Hello everyone and everyone too

[empty lynx]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[frozen storm]

How are y'all doing

[hidden spire]

I'm OK wbuu

[empty lynx]

bored as fuck

[frozen storm]

I'm doing very well

Just woke up

Slight headache but it'll go away

[honest shale]

why is “hello everyone and everyone else” correct in this context

i hate it

[empty lynx]

i wonder why

[frozen storm]

Cry about it

[honest shale]

[frozen storm]

@meds

No silksong

[honest shale]

its not silksong

its ass jim

[hidden spire]

@mids

[frozen storm]

@muds

[ionic tinsel]

@mads

[frozen storm]

@msodesdo

[remote bear]

anybody know a way to get hk for free on steam (not looking for piracy answers) like a legit copy of it (idk how stupid this question actully is)

[ionic tinsel]

get it gifted from a friend ig?

[frozen storm]

Use honey /j

[remote bear]

honey 😭

[frozen storm]

Ok so

You want a steam copy for modding

[remote bear]

wasnt it caught as like a big scam

[remote bear]

yes

and the satisfaction of achievements notifications

[frozen storm]

The meaning /j

[remote bear]

wdym

[frozen storm]

Xbox is more satisfying for that imo

[empty lynx]

/j stands for joking

[frozen storm]

(joke)

[remote bear]

ok

[remote bear]

u cant mod on xbox copy for pc

[frozen storm]

Not yet

[honest shale]

so uhh
idk how to tell you this
but you have to buy the game

[remote bear]

yet but whobknows how long u cant

[frozen storm]

They're working on it

[remote bear]

oof

[remote bear]

whos working on it

[frozen storm]

There's always another way

[frozen storm]

No idea

But someone is

[remote bear]

so where did you get “they are working on it”

😭

[honest shale]

those other ways are illegal

[frozen storm]

Because that's what's written on their website

[frozen storm]

No no no

[honest shale]

bcs the lumafly dev team arent dumbasses

[frozen storm]

I think Microsoft gifts steam gift cards

[remote bear]

i chrcked they dont

[frozen storm]

Try using Microsoft rewards on bing

And on mobile

[remote bear]

ive been grinding microsct rewards for 560 days

[frozen storm]

And on xbox

[remote bear]

ik rnough of it

[frozen storm]

Sheet

[remote bear]

i dont eanns get it on xbox cuz u cant mod

[frozen storm]

How old are you

[frozen storm]

Ikikik

[remote bear]

why do ya ask

[frozen storm]

You could make a debit card for you

[remote bear]

alr have 1

[frozen storm]

And beg your parents for money

[remote bear]

yk the fhing is

i aint even allowed to buy games

its like

[frozen storm]

Why?

[remote bear]

really rare

[remote bear]

just aint

[frozen storm]

Your parents won't allow?

[remote bear]

they wont

ig

[frozen storm]

Or steam doesn't accept debit

[remote bear]

they sont allow

ig

[frozen storm]

Microsoft doesn't accept debit sadly

[frozen storm]

Why not? It's your money

[remote bear]

idrk my self

naybe cuz studies or sm

[frozen storm]

I hate to admit that my parents are also like that

[remote bear]

but i do lot of studies

[frozen storm]

How high are your grades?

[remote bear]

i meab they are nice and not strict

[remote bear]

eh we use nunbers round here

[torpid hawk]

Appears
What up

[frozen storm]

Not allowing you to spend your own money for entertainment sounds like strictness

[frozen storm]

Here too

[remote bear]

i wouldnt say tbh

i think it links in with the studies part

but tbh my grades are all over the place im aiming for 7+ in all gcses

[frozen storm]

Well I don't have to worry about that because my grades were always extremely high

[remote bear]

but the grade boundaries are absolute dookie

[frozen storm]

This bimester i only got an 8 in financial education because my teacher doesn't know how to grade smh

But the rest are 9s and 10s

[remote bear]

thats lucky hro 😭

[frozen storm]

That's skill

Not luck

[remote bear]

idk 10s were max

but ur not doung tcses

gcses

[honest shale]

i just took 5 hits to xero fuck me

[frozen storm]

What's a gcses

[frozen storm]

I don't want to

[remote bear]

bascially the major exam

of secondary school

in the uk

[frozen storm]

Major exam?

Like the SAT or ENEM

[remote bear]

essentially

finals

[frozen storm]

Oh

Funnily enough

I never got my final's results

[remote bear]

damn

[frozen storm]

From 1st grade high school

And it has been 6 months already

[remote bear]

ibdont understand those achoom systems

aroujd october 2025

someone said hell gift me the game

he said wait a. month

[frozen storm]

School ends on the end of the year

[remote bear]

i eaited a. month

he blocked me

[frozen storm]

Lol

[remote bear]

he has me on steam

but he blanks me on steam

[frozen storm]

That's sad

[remote bear]

sll the time

quite sad

[frozen storm]

I have the pirated steam version to mod the game
And the original Xbox version to farm achievements

[remote bear]

i etilo message him to do this day and ask u gonna fulfill the promise

[frozen storm]

I had the pirated version for a long time before buying because I never had the money

Such a relief to buy it tbh

[remote bear]

i dont wanna get the pirated version for hk

cuz hasslijg pirayed games

is hella annoying

[frozen storm]

I never had any problems, guess I'm lucky?

[remote bear]

the only games ive pirated rrally is poppy playtime

and legi batman

[remote bear]

nah i also mean like

[frozen storm]

Not even Minecraft?

[remote bear]

it aint as satisfying as steam

[frozen storm]

I think everyone pirated Minecraft at least once

[remote bear]

i have mc

like premium java

[frozen storm]

Nahhh

Lucky

[remote bear]

id never pirate minecraft

tlauncher is actually so ahh

[foggy sable]

You should probably refrain from piracy discussions here

[frozen storm]

I had to pirate MC for 7 years before finally buying it

[remote bear]

my bad

[foggy sable]

I don't really care but it is against discord rules

[frozen storm]

I think as long as I'm not promoting/teaching it it's fine, but I'll stop

[foggy sable]

I just don't want to see people get banned for it

[remote bear]

ye fair

[frozen storm]

Yeah yeah

You're right

[remote bear]

yea. ut thats the story how i got lied to after a month

[frozen storm]

Anyways what killed you yesterday in r5

[remote bear]

it was just after exams finished so i was happy

[foggy sable]

White defender

[frozen storm]

Rip

[remote bear]

white defender so annoying

[frozen storm]

New pb though

[foggy sable]

And then the stupidest fc hit

[frozen storm]

Rock?

[foggy sable]

I just dashed into him at the start of the fight

[honest shale]

fuck i might die to sob bcs oblobbles left me on 1

[frozen storm]

Crazy stuff crazy stuff

[foggy sable]

It was not a good hit

[frozen storm]

Sob won't kill dw

[foggy sable]

But I'll take a a 2 hit run

[honest shale]

have you considered i suck

[foggy sable]

Farm phase 1 heals

[frozen storm]

2 hit is your pb

[foggy sable]

Yes

[frozen storm]

Old PB or new

[foggy sable]

Old

[honest shale]

ive died to singular mantis in full equipment before

[foggy sable]

But pb since I came back to runs

[frozen storm]

Mhm

I think youll get it this semester

[foggy sable]

That is like 3 weeks

[frozen storm]

The semester ends on June 31st

[foggy sable]

Well 7 really

Nvm 5

I missed both times

[frozen storm]

Lol

I also think I'll get p5ab this semester

It'll depend on how many times I'll visit my cousin tbh

My Xbox is dead

[foggy sable]

glgl

[frozen storm]

And my PC is kinda...

15 fps

[honest shale]

i died to sob

[frozen storm]

Without any mods for optimization

[foggy sable]

Why

[frozen storm]

Skill issue

[foggy sable]

Didn't you farm healing

[honest shale]

i did

[woven iris]

i m on mantis tribe rn

[honest shale]

i entered the phase with full health

[frozen storm]

The only boss that could kill me in the first attempt of p5ab would be obblobles

[foggy sable]

Oh I see

[frozen storm]

Why are you dying to videogame bosses?

[honest shale]

i just suck

[honest shale]

?tag gitgud

[idle belfry]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[frozen storm]

Just use descending dark

Sob has a big weakness to ddark

[honest shale]

i prefer not to ddark in sob

only way i can enjoy it

[frozen storm]

Chances are you'll deal 100 damage

[frozen storm]

I only shriek

[honest shale]

anyways this is the only thing keeping me sane rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsBLqdDL0vM&t=1842s

[frozen storm]

Gods and Glory sucks

I use the Silksong OST while playing P5

[honest shale]

i use big shot

[frozen storm]

One time, ||awakening|| was timed perfectly with radiance spawning

Such a peak song

And the phase shift also timed perfectly

[empty lynx]

@frozen storm dont ruin my larp bro

[frozen storm]

Awn

Ok

I'll larp too

[keen saffron]

almost there

[empty lynx]

do w*tcher knight

[keen saffron]

i thought uumuu would take me ages but it was surprisingly easy

[honest shale]

im gonna eep now gn

[keen saffron]

yeah sure

goodnight

[agile pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-the-cat-maxwell-cat-bounce-meme-gif-27624501

[keen saffron]

descending dark my beloved

[empty lynx]

idk i dont get why people find rad uumuu hard either

[wary hound]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cosplay-reze-IZdOTR0Q1nreB8pLF6

[empty lynx]

gn bro

[frozen storm]

Gn

[wary hound]

gn

[frozen storm]

AHHH

Scary

[empty lynx]

*doesnt kill you but wishes you to not live your life to the fullest

[keen saffron]

i said i wouldn't do radhog

[frozen storm]

Hi sunfall

[keen saffron]

but at this point

i have no choice

[wind garnet]

lol

[wary hound]

dies anyways

[frozen storm]

Revives because yes

[wary hound]

no i despawn now

[empty lynx]

at some point it becomes "sure why not" so sure

oh bye sun fall

[keen saffron]

yeah

[frozen storm]

Ok bye for like 19 days

[wary hound]

sure

also i have like 500 dollars now

[wind garnet]

you know sharing is caring

[empty lynx]

asks nicely

[frozen storm]

You know I never asked you anything...

[wary hound]

uh um uh um im poor

[wary hound]

uh um um im sorry\

[frozen storm]

You have a job

You don't need the money

[empty lynx]

can i have some of that to buy the gold pass in clash of clans

its just 2$ at the moment

[frozen storm]

Eww coc

[empty lynx]

pretty please ^^

[empty lynx]

eww bra*il

[frozen storm]

Ewww Egypt

[empty lynx]

i agree with that statement

[frozen storm]

Me too

[rare aurora]

gg

good ending

oh hey slowmode is gone again

[frozen storm]

Slow mode was gone for a long time

Did I miss something

Anyways hi alp

[warm aurora]

Hi :>

[frozen storm]

Red bird

What is /45

Abhog

Or something

[warm aurora]

Silksong hitless charmless bosses

I found it was time to swap out the achievement part of my username

Cant do abhog because console

(So I am doing all silksong bosses without anything godhome equivalent)

[frozen storm]

You can

Just don't upgrade your nail above 2

Pretend you have 4 masks

[empty lynx]

you can emulate it

[warm aurora]

I heared

[frozen storm]

Only use soul stuff after 3 hits

And never use charms

[frozen storm]

Heard?

[warm aurora]

I'd have to do a whole playthrough

[empty lynx]

unfortunately

[warm aurora]

Ig

[open stirrup]

very

[empty lynx]

yay

[warm aurora]

[frozen storm]

Sadly yeah

[warm aurora]

Then I'd choose silksong (where I am on my 4-5th playthrough depending how you count it)

I only have 2 in hk (on a 3rd)

[frozen storm]

Hk is better

Imo

[warm aurora]

I cant choose but rn I'd say silksong since thats what I am doing now

I find silksong has very good ambience, music and better movement but both games have their things

[frozen storm]

Music definitely

Movement ehhhh

Ambience idk

[warm aurora]

I played hk after sk and sealed vessel took me #1 music spot for a bit but a silksong track has overmaken it again

[warm aurora]

Really just me using another term for the music combined with the colours and sound

[frozen storm]

Agree

I love that one

It's perfect

Down to the last minute details

[warm aurora]

Same for CoT

But those are probably my 2 biggest music hot takes

[frozen storm]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-perfect-gif-8272367608619472482

[frozen storm]

CoT I agree

[warm aurora]

Agrees in kills marissa

[frozen storm]

I love melancholic songs

Yes

[warm aurora]

I find some silksong early boss themes very good

[frozen storm]

Let's move this to #sk-discussion

And delete everything

[warm aurora]

Ye

Sure

[frozen storm]

Delete everything that's a spoiler yeah

Nor everything

Done

[warm aurora]

Yes and am kinda making the convo not consistent of 3 messages that dont align

[prisma cradle]

Anyone has a good charm build for pop including the kingsmould

??

[zinc delta]

hello everyone

[empty lynx]

hi vessel

[empty lynx]

Shamman stone mark of pride deep focus grubsong

[worthy peak]

I would advise MoP longnail shaman stone, and quickslash... But thats kind of controversial

[silent cosmos]

is flukenest fixed?

[prisma cradle]

Oh alright

[nocturne spindle]

btw i finally have done asceneded markoth

im still trying to do radiant radiance i always die at light beams

[empty lynx]

nice bro

[empty lynx]

it is

[empty lynx]

Mop longnail no bro

[paper tiger]

gl

[compact wasp]

so evil

[empty lynx]

aside from that though you do want soul for that one no heal section

[worthy peak]

It worked for me...

[prisma cradle]

Fixed from what?

[compact wasp]

anyways I will try path of pain with this new keybinds

[paper tiger]

its op af

[silent cosmos]

1 shotting everything it sees

[prisma cradle]

What do you mean

[frozen hull]

@empty lynx

[prisma cradle]

?

[empty lynx]

flukenest used to hit the same enemy twice

[prisma cradle]

Oh not anymore

?

[empty lynx]

everyone: omg izu/dusk/dawn/izutsumi hiiiiiiiii

[frozen hull]

How do you know those names.

[empty lynx]

yea it was doing like double the damage it should be doing
which is quadruple the damage of shade soul

[empty lynx]

wouldn't you like to know

[prisma cradle]

Wow!

[frozen hull]

Tell me

[empty lynx]

doesnt

[frozen hull]

Kills you

[frozen storm]

@worthy peak @zinc delta @compact wasp

@frozen hull

[empty lynx]

fucking dies

[worthy peak]

hiii

[frozen storm]

How are y'all doing

[frozen hull]

Wowwww I'm last thought

[zinc delta]

good#

[compact wasp]

about to do path of pain again. wbu?

[frozen storm]

Great

A lot of stuff to do

[zinc delta]

ngl i think path of pain is fun

[compact wasp]

same

it is really fun

[frozen storm]

It's repetitive

Imo

I have beaten it 4 times

One of which was PoPV

[silent cosmos]

i'm currently going for pantheons and using quickslash, unbreakable strength, mop and longnail
I'm wondering whether longnail is a bit overkill though. what would be a good replacement?

[frozen storm]

Steady body + grubsong/nailmaster's glory

[silent cosmos]

thanks!

also do you guys have some builds for the bindings?

[frozen storm]

If you get used to sbody you'll love it

[copper spruce]

@frozen hull

I am so scared

[paper tiger]

im trying to do p5 my charms are steady body mop unbreakable strength and quickslash

[frozen storm]

For shell, remove grubsong/nmg and mop for twister and unbreakable heart

If you don't use spells

[copper spruce]

Look at this @frozen hull

Wtfffff

[frozen storm]

Swap twister for LN

[silent cosmos]

I'd like to get better at spells, but i'm very mush used to being nailman!

[frozen hull]

Erm what the sigma

[empty lynx]

longnail is definitely overkill

[copper spruce]

I have 2 soul jars now

[empty lynx]

yea you do want to get better at spells especially for bindings that's for sure

[frozen storm]

And nail arts

Especially charm binding

[silent cosmos]

I need 8 in total right

for first heart deposit?

[warm aurora]

Just try to use spells more
They arent too difficult to hit and I think its easy to get the hang of it if you just do it
Having shaman stone makes it even better

[frozen storm]

Cheese

[warm aurora]

Ew

[devout ore]

cheese

[silent cosmos]

I don't think i can fit shaman stone though, i used it a lot on normal playthrough, but now i'm trying to finish 112 and it's pantheon time

[frozen storm]

WHATTT

[silent cosmos]

and i do turn out to just be nailman

even though i thought i was more wizzard hybrid

[warm aurora]

I highly recommend it for the lategame

[frozen storm]

You can use quick focus if you want too

[warm aurora]

I am and I basically only ran shaman twister strength quickslash

[silent cosmos]

no mop?

[warm aurora]

Nope

Spells

[frozen storm]

Mop is kinda overrated

[silent cosmos]

it helps me stay out of big hitboxes

[frozen storm]

I just got so used to not using MoP

It's not a bad charm

I just don't see the difference

I like overcharming with it

[empty lynx]

mop is good you can keep it on if you like

just dont expect your shade soul to hit nearly as hard without shamman

[silent cosmos]

overcharm not for me yet, im at 109% i think i just need to finish pantheons? did 1 and 2 already

[empty lynx]

the other 2 spells are still good without it though

[silent cosmos]

1%/panthoen?

[empty lynx]

yep

[frozen storm]

I use it for hitless bosses

[empty lynx]

for the first 4 atleast

[frozen storm]

So it doesn't make a difference

[silent cosmos]

oh

the last 1% is nmk?

[frozen storm]

You're missing something

[empty lynx]

who?

[frozen storm]

Probably

[silent cosmos]

didn't do that guy yet

[frozen storm]

Easy boss

[silent cosmos]

did troupe leader

[empty lynx]

oh nkg

[silent cosmos]

but not nightmareman

[empty lynx]

nightmareman ✍️

[silent cosmos]

atm im stuck in p3

umuu is recking me 😢

[frozen storm]

Which boss

[old briar]

What is p3

[empty lynx]

late game content

[frozen storm]

Steady body helps, also practice in HOG

[silent cosmos]

i just cant trigger him without taking so much damage

[frozen storm]

My tip is to snipe the oomas with shade soul

[silent cosmos]

get to silksong with 2-4 masks

[silent cosmos]

that works?

[old briar]

I just quit hollow knight becuz queen garden pisses me off

[frozen storm]

Extremely well

[silent cosmos]

huh

that does sound like a good strat

welp

lets go give it a shot

[frozen storm]

Dream nailing uumuu is very easy too

[silent cosmos]

thanks for the help!

[frozen storm]

Free soul

[empty lynx]

also the 2 bottom platforms are completely safe ftom the full screen attack

[warm aurora]

Shade soul

[frozen storm]

[paper tiger]

what is yalls favo boss fight

[frozen storm]

Pv

[warm aurora]

Pv then zote

[frozen storm]

This guy is zote

[silent cosmos]

mantis

[paper tiger]

W

[paper tiger]

W

[warm aurora]

Not saying uumuu is 3rd but I do like to do his godhome fight to try trickshots

[devout ore]

SoB

[warm aurora]

Godhome > overworld

[paper tiger]

i mean mines gotta be SoB

[empty lynx]

grey prince zote

[frozen storm]

Have you seen a tas Speedrun of overworld uumuu

Please do

[warm aurora]

No but I assume a 1 cycle

[frozen storm]

It's crazy

[frozen storm]

Watch it

[empty lynx]

oh its even crazier than a 1 cycle

[frozen storm]

It's genuinely crazy stuff

[frozen storm]

Don't spoil

[empty lynx]

grrrrrrr

[foggy sable]

gr

[warm aurora]

Just checked it
Remembered I had seen it but still insane

[viral quest]

overhated for sure

[paper tiger]

i mean i think he is underhated

[frozen storm]

https://youtu.be/vU7fxKzQUAs?si=5JYDzPsShxY3A79c

[warm aurora]

Mainstream?

[frozen storm]

Annoying in AB but still fun

[viral quest]

nah he is actually pretty fun imo

[warm aurora]

During my shell and charm binding p3 I never died to zote

[paper tiger]

yh but i died in p5 to him so i am biased

[warm aurora]

I found charmless Lost Kin way more of an issue as charmless zote

[viral quest]

fairs

[frozen hull]

Who's Izu

[frozen storm]

You

Server tag

[formal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694394891584667683/1365845428305793084/IMG_20250415_131019.gif

[frozen hull]

@formal ridge

[formal ridge]

whos that

[sacred cypress]

I got so rusty that I can't even defeat the radiance after beating pure vessel 😭

[frozen hull]

Me

[formal ridge]

hello @formal ridge

[paper tiger]

is it crazy that i beat the radiance first try

[frozen hull]

No

[formal ridge]

no

[frozen hull]

Hi @frozen hull

[formal ridge]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HA58T6xbMAAOnMt.mp4

[frozen hull]

awa :3

[formal ridge]

:3

[empty lynx]

carol tower hereos

[formal ridge]

@empty lynx

[empty lynx]

no more

[formal ridge]

my bad

[warm aurora]

...

[empty lynx]

its ok

[foggy sable]

squish

[formal ridge]

it is quite squished

anyways imma go shopping for vocaloid merch

cz ion think toronto has hk merch

[foggy sable]

oooh

[tribal compass]

Im so rusty I cant even defeat crawlid

[sacred cypress]

I finally got 112%

It was a struggle

[stone mural]

i think thats all of us

[formal ridge]

did you get past crawlid

[tribal compass]

Congrats, I hope to achieve the same soon

[tribal compass]

Right?

[stone mural]

exactly

[warm aurora]

Soon
Tho I do vaguely remember you talking about bigger challanges, might misremember

[tribal compass]

Yeah I can safely beat most bosses hitless(ish) and could potentially beat pantheon 3-4 on all bindings but radiance is weirdly difficult to me

[silent pilot]

any1 have some tips for speed running watcher knights? I often die on my first attempt, and it is ruining my runs 😭

[warm aurora]

No radiance is required for 112

Also, you seem to be in my situation, I couldnt hitless all bosses hut had done p1-4eb before mastering absrad (which took me over 2 months)

Mastering is a big term
I still dont think I am consistent at that fight tho have done p5

I had 1 hp at the end for most of phase 6

[tribal compass]

Well, you're closer than I am by a large margin

in my eyes thats a mastery

[warm aurora]

But still, no radiance is needed for 112

Thats the takeaway

[velvet chasm]

was shrogoing patched?

[warm aurora]

No

[velvet chasm]

really?

[warm aurora]

You are probably just missing seer

[velvet chasm]

is the timing tighter?

[warm aurora]

It was always difficult, if it isnt working that doesnt mean its patched

[tribal compass]

Im aware, but I do also want to get the ending

[warm aurora]

I would get 112 first

[velvet chasm]

before i could chain 5 with ease and my record was like 15 and now i can't even do 1

[warm aurora]

Idk I have never done it

[warm aurora]

Well
As I said, absrad alone took me 7 weeks to defeat and 9 weeks to get consistent enough to try p5 again

And p5 besides the practice took me 29 attempts

Its not easy obviously

[silent pilot]

p5 was pure horror tbf

did it once, but never again

[warm aurora]

Also on this, I dont have tips, I once did a ddark route and first tried them but that spell makes a huge difference

[warm aurora]

I do plan to go for bindings but have only given it 1 shot so far

Tried nail and died on collector

Which is a worthy boss to die to in that case

[silent pilot]

yea, its hard with no upgrades and only VS as a spell

[warm aurora]

If you dont want to adjust your route I dont have tips

[paper tiger]

im genuinly about to crash the FUCK OUT

[warm aurora]

I know a shade soul route exists so grabbing that could be viable

[silent pilot]

monarch wings also help, but it takes too long to get

[silent pilot]

fair, I prob just need to grind away 😭

[frozen storm]

I never hit a shrogo

[warm aurora]

Atp just get shade soul or even ddark

[paper tiger]

this shitty ass boss called grey prince zote is so bad its insande

insane

[silent pilot]

mby thats the move

[silent pilot]

worst boss, right next to that bee knight

imo

[paper tiger]

i have died to him 2 times in p5

he so pmo

[warm aurora]

Do all statue fights

That boss has the best practice grounds

No boss has a better build up in difficulty

Hes hard but for me he hasnt been an issue since I did the statue

[silent pilot]

Yea, I just didnt free him, so he was not in my p5

[warm aurora]

And hes really fun too

(Imo)

He was in my p5 and I never died to him

(29 attempts still)

[silent pilot]

whats your record of zote in godhome?

[warm aurora]

34 iirc

[paper tiger]

i have practised him and havent died a single time but in p5 he just kills me

[warm aurora]

But I dont really like the gamemode

[warm aurora]

The statue?

Thats way better practice

[paper tiger]

yh ik

[warm aurora]

Overworld statue

[paper tiger]

i practised that a shi ton

and in godhome

but i always die in p5

[warm aurora]

But you did do overworld

[paper tiger]

yh

[warm aurora]

Practice more

Ascended and probably rad too

[paper tiger]

yh

[warm aurora]

You need to get a better reel for the fight because he becomes decently predictable with practice

[foggy sable]

p5...

[silent pilot]

whats your charm su?

[warm aurora]

Mine?
Shaman, strength, qs and longnail for that p5 segment tho I recommend twister instead

[foggy sable]

am I allowed to be a p5 hater or is that too hypocritical

[silent pilot]

true, im more of a nail guy tbh

[warm aurora]

Fine with me

[zealous skiff]

no p5 hate is valid

[silent pilot]

def no, hate all you want

im joining

[zealous skiff]

30 minute intro to a couple actually hard fights

[foggy sable]

good

[silent pilot]

exactly

Its like watching 3 30 sec unskippable ads b4 a 1 min video

[copper spruce]

30 minutes just to lose at the end

[silent pilot]

yea, and it also cost like 200$

[tulip narwhal]

r5 hate is even more valid

[warm aurora]

Spends 40 minutes
Dies to traitor lord

[foggy sable]

more r5 hate imo

[thick oriole]

if they got rid of that inventory drop glitch will the speedruns change or will they just stay like that

[silent pilot]

Fav boss?

[crisp minnow]

GRUZZ MOTHER

[umbral night]

Lost kin

[worthy peak]

they did get rid of it, speedruns downpatched

[thick oriole]

what does downpatched mean

[silent pilot]

finaly some gruzz love

[indigo grail]

Using a previous patch

[worthy peak]

play on previous patch. i think i used the terminology slightly wrong though

[crisp minnow]

yes sirrrrr

[indigo grail]

Grimm

[thick oriole]

onkey donkes

[thick oriole]

shut ur mouth

[silent pilot]

I just know she would be the hardest boss if she didnt carry like 10 babies in her

[worthy peak]

absrad

[silent pilot]

valid

[crisp minnow]

exacly

[worthy peak]

already is one of the hardest :D

[foggy sable]

sheo, then absrad and markoth I think

[thick oriole]

pure vessel

[silent pilot]

Yea, cuz its so sad to kill her

[crisp minnow]

blindfolded gruzz mother is hardest boss in the game

[silent pilot]

love his fight too. Too bad he rips his nice armor tho

[thick oriole]

y e a h

[agile pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-the-cat-maxwell-cat-bounce-meme-gif-27624501

[silent pilot]

Honest question: Would you rather kill Gruzz mother or Myla?

[wind garnet]

pure vessel

[crisp minnow]

not answering sorry

[slender vale]

Yeesh… I’m actually having withdrawals from MoP and Longnail from the time of I was radianting the Hall of Gods.
P.S trying to beat P5 again on this save

[warm aurora]

Myla but I like to have both dead

[silent pilot]

hehe

[umbral night]

I'd clean up all of hallownest before Myla

[crisp minnow]

they both mean to much to me

[silent pilot]

Your insane

[warm aurora]

Marissa too

[foggy sable]

myla is a bingy goal so like

[warm aurora]

Not menderbug tho

[agile pewter]

ancient aspid

[silent pilot]

I always say hi to Myla when she is singing, and then never visit her again

[foggy sable]

I'm pretty sure yours if flukemarm

[silent pilot]

I just cant bear it

[agile pewter]

or that

[warm aurora]

Pv followed by zote for me

[umbral night]

Lol

[silent pilot]

leave. ❤️

[silent pilot]

hot

[warm aurora]

But like controversial opinions I like to bring up godhome uumuu as honourable mention (doesnt mean hes 3rd for me)
Tho godhome > overworld

Fun for trickshots

[umbral night]

I like that fight as well
Platforming while fighting is fun

[warm aurora]

And overworld is just slow

[silent pilot]

But you cant bounce on elder bug in godhome tho..

[umbral night]

Not markoth though

[warm aurora]

Patience simulator

[warm aurora]

Wtf?

[silent pilot]

?

[warm aurora]

Typo?

Elder bug?

[silent pilot]

oh

mb

[warm aurora]

How even?

[silent pilot]

grubfather

[umbral night]

This guy's trolling 😂

[warm aurora]

How is it related to uumuu tho?

Uumuu is fun to bounce on when waiting for yellys

[umbral night]

True

Also i think that is not possible in 1.2.2.1 iirc
The ummuu nail interaction is somehow different i believe

[silent pilot]

idk

[warm aurora]

I have heared of a knockback change at some point

[silent pilot]

not a fan of uumuu either way

[warm aurora]

But I dont know much version history since I played hk after sk

[umbral night]

Fair

[warm aurora]

Tho I keep learning things

Through convos like this

[umbral night]

Me too

[silent pilot]

how many hours in hk till you get good?

[umbral night]

Varies from people to people
Some (like me) don't get good after 500 hours
Some get good in 40

[silent pilot]

man

[compact wasp]

hihi

[foggy sable]

hiiii

[silent pilot]

i have 150 and im terrible

[warm aurora]

1

[compact wasp]

Highly depends. I dunno I have 220 hours and I still have only 109%

[foggy sable]

misinformation

[warm aurora]

I just chop away at challanges and goals that seem fun and slightly doable

[novel glacier]

Markoth is a better fight than pv because it’s an actual skill check fighth instead of pattern vessel

[silent pilot]

I feel like i learn bosses quickly, but then i forget like after a day

[compact wasp]

perhaps a little tomfoolery

[warm aurora]

I just started hk without too much in mind and ended up with 43 rad and p5

We all get good (better) along the way

[shrewd nymph]

5000

[warm aurora]

180 hours

[silent pilot]

I would believe that

[shrewd nymph]

5000 on the lower end *

[compact wasp]

gotta be playing since you are a child

[umbral night]

It also depends on your definition of good, i guess

[compact wasp]

first word needs to be "shaw"

[shrewd nymph]

i mean yeah it all comes down to where you define good

and even then it varies on so much

[warm aurora]

Yes but getting better only takes a few minutes

[foggy sable]

surely I define good as anyone better than me

[shrewd nymph]

bit harsh

[compact wasp]

damn.

[umbral night]

Damn

[shrewd nymph]

and valid name because holy shit is it bad in the morning rn

[foggy sable]

that surely wouldn't be unfair

[copper spruce]

[noble ruin]

Im good

[foggy sable]

it is COLD at the moment

[compact wasp]

surely. You don't even have p4ab

[foggy sable]

well not right now

but in general now

[warm aurora]

:O

[silent pilot]

what is p4ab

[foggy sable]

I still haven't got the last 3

[compact wasp]

pantheon 4 all bindings

[umbral night]

What are they

[silent pilot]

yea ill just cry in the corner ok

[warm aurora]

All achievements = good confirmed

[umbral night]

I'm at 40 or something idk
I don't even know all of them

[silent pilot]

not true

[compact wasp]

Damn I suck then

[silent pilot]

I just forced my way through them all

[compact wasp]

understandable

[umbral night]

Relatable

[silent pilot]

True hunter is the worst

[foggy sable]

lazy

[compact wasp]

same

[velvet chasm]

lets go i finally beat enchanced sisters of battle on ascended

[compact wasp]

genuinely not in the mood to get the speed completion and steel soul achievements rn on this version

[worthy peak]

teh 100% completetion i shouldnt have cause a rando was wierd and gave ti when it shouldnt :D

[warm aurora]

Luckily its only an achievemnt so you dont need to do it in every save for completion

[foggy sable]

do them for a low equipment save imo

[compact wasp]

steel heart.

[silent pilot]

I swear, if it was for 112% I would never have done it

[compact wasp]

how do you plan on getting steel heart?

[warm aurora]

Min achievements%

[compact wasp]

unironically, still debating whether I should get 112%

[silent pilot]

Is there a way to get more savefiles?

[warm aurora]

Speedrunners would have needed to do it in every completion run

[compact wasp]

maybe that will remove my curse of watchers somehow

[silent pilot]

sad

[umbral night]

Is that steel soul 112?

[warm aurora]

4
On an xbox you instantly have the game on every account so I have 3x4 spaces
On pc you can just export files

[compact wasp]

yep

[umbral night]

Ok thnx

[torpid hawk]

Guys I’m on 111% completion and I just need one more mask shard but I have to do the delicate flower thing

[compact wasp]

then do the delicate flower thingy

[silent pilot]

fair, thx

[torpid hawk]

I will

[warm aurora]

And in silksong you can use save rewinds to effectively have infinite saves per slot of you understand the way it works

[silent pilot]

give it to elderbug

[umbral night]

Take it slow
Look down before dropping
It's not too hard

[warm aurora]

No modding needed console friendly

[compact wasp]

just set a dream gate in front of the grey mourner. Kill all enemies in your path to queen's garden's grave. and do it.

[wind garnet]

Based

[torpid hawk]

Kk

[wind garnet]

Did that shit on console not doing it again for pc

[foggy sable]

hunter is much too annoying to bother

[compact wasp]

still wondering why tf did I need to go through the WHOLE of queen's garden because the lever glitch happened

genuinely such shit luck

[silent pilot]

pc is easier than console right?

[compact wasp]

damn we all suck

[warm aurora]

Wouldnt know why

[compact wasp]

pc has mods so

[silent pilot]

I just think kbm is more precise

[compact wasp]

I would say pc because it lets you do moer challenges

[warm aurora]

Except you can use mods for binding and p5 arena attuned practice

[compact wasp]

and just ends up being more fun

[silent pilot]

valid

[umbral night]

Better fps would be my takeaway

[warm aurora]

Thats as far as godhome doesnt let you practice

[compact wasp]

i still need to do today's p5 run

[copper spruce]

This game sucks

[warm aurora]

And for challanges like abhog pc is way easier

[noble ruin]

In my experience yes

Went from 112% on console to PC and found PC significantly better

[umbral night]

Is that because you got way better or was it less input delay + higher fps

[compact wasp]

@foggy sable should I do 112 today, or one more p5 run

[silent pilot]

I have never really played on console

glad to be pc

[noble ruin]

It was keyboard feeling much better for controlling the character

[foggy sable]

do you want to do p5?

if so do that, if not 112

[compact wasp]

both are split

[noble ruin]

Instead of joystick

[compact wasp]

I can do either

[warm aurora]

I do find nailarts to be a little shit on console

[umbral night]

Oh
I see

[compact wasp]

so indecisiveness

[silent pilot]

bro, I never use them

like

are they even worth

[compact wasp]

but ye you are right, I will just choose randomly

[warm aurora]

Same but bindings eventually require them

[umbral night]

You know what I'm gonna say
112

[warm aurora]

I heared

[umbral night]

Works

[warm aurora]

But thats what people said about collo 3, sly and rad markoth where I found ways around them

[foggy sable]

I wonder what is happening in vc5

[warm aurora]

Party?

[compact wasp]

anyrad attempts

[silent pilot]

I need more chats

😭

[compact wasp]

probably

[twilit pine]

112

[foggy sable]

@bitter jolt anybad

[silent pilot]

+1

[bitter jolt]

hi grey hru

[foggy sable]

hiiiiii

I'm good hru

[wind garnet]

End buddy get off 2.0

[bitter jolt]

im a bit sick rn so im playing some easier bosses

[bitter jolt]

im not on 2.0

[wind garnet]

Good

You need to recover

[bitter jolt]

lol

[worthy peak]

nothing requires them... except lever skips i guess... but working around them is kind of boring and eventually becomes more difficult...

[zealous skiff]

oh damn your better

mb

[shrewd nymph]

its okay i forgive you

[split zenith]

no way I missed suscat

[zealous skiff]

the stream preview of doom despair and disaster

[wind garnet]

Ponder

[warm aurora]

For collo 3 I didnt have issues
For sly I feel my method worked better for me and I might have overcomplicated markoth
And for bindings I dont see a way around them tho I havent gotten to ab yet

[wind garnet]

Yeah at a glance looks like 2.0

Did grubsenf see my new new pv record

[foggy sable]

anyrad phase 2 or something maybe

[wind garnet]

[noble ruin]

I should play 2.0

[shrewd nymph]

get well soon

[noble ruin]

But I'm busy subnautica 2ing

[worthy peak]

the way around with bindings is literally just do the bosses the same but be more consistent pretty much

[wind garnet]

@digital abyss

[silent pilot]

is it good?

[noble ruin]

Yeah

[warm aurora]

I mean, that was my plan except for bosses like collector

[split zenith]

this is 1.0

the swords are too spaced apart methinks

[wind garnet]

Yuh

[worthy peak]

well... for collector copy greys pogo strat...

[split zenith]

I commented...

[worthy peak]

where did she get it from... probably mentioned it at some point

[warm aurora]

I'll see when I get there since I havent done any ab

[digital abyss]

sigh

[warm aurora]

Tho I have tried p5 nail and died to collector

[wind garnet]

Nah like I beat that one

[warm aurora]

So might be worth learning

[wind garnet]

[split zenith]

what when 😭

[wind garnet]

Today

[split zenith]

move on from that boss omg

[wind garnet]

No

[warm aurora]

Ascended collector without strength might be the best way

[foggy sable]

I stole it from a low equipment player and another r5ab runner

[split zenith]

congrats

[split zenith]

🫂

[worthy peak]

[split zenith]

I'll check it out RN

[foggy sable]

both of whom I haven't talked to in like over a year now

[wind garnet]

Grey should do r5ab without wings

[foggy sable]

surely

[split zenith]

suscat should do p5ab without

[delicate coral]

@bitter jolt 1.0?

[digital abyss]

wtfff

[split zenith]

pv

[warm aurora]

:o

[wind garnet]

There is no life outside of pv arena

It’s a desolate wasteland

[fossil flume]

how do i spawn in a bench?

[silent pilot]

eh?

[split zenith]

nuhuh radiance arena exists

[fossil flume]

is that benchwarp mod?

[wind garnet]

That’s the attic

[fossil flume]

cus i thought it was debug

but i cant find

[noble ruin]

What

[bitter jolt]

yea

[delicate coral]

alr

hyd

[bitter jolt]

bit sick lol prob gonna go to sleep soon

[delicate coral]

sorry to hear, hope u get well soon

[split zenith]

ok but like how do you beat that @wind garnet

[wind garnet]

Soul attack at the end

[split zenith]

didn't even do another attack this time

[digital abyss]

not with me.

[wind garnet]

And no hesitation in pillars

I practically need to predict pillars immediately

[split zenith]

sword wall is this radiance

[wind garnet]

Right now it’s like I react to it

[noble ruin]

You never asked me to

[split zenith]

but is pillars once at the start ideal?

[delicate coral]

@worthy peak@foggy sable

[foggy sable]

hiiiii

[worthy peak]

hiii

[delicate coral]

hii

[silent pilot]

bro, your pv is wild

[delicate coral]

hru two

[wind garnet]

Uhhh ngl

I have no clue

[foggy sable]

I'm good hru

[delicate coral]

doing good too ty

[wind garnet]

That rng in the newest record has the most nail turns I could do

[split zenith]

on pillars you always lose a bit of dps in your wrs

when pv jumps

[wind garnet]

Yes but triple slash only isn’t great either

[lapis musk]

How do i dodge pillars @ suscat @ meow

[wind garnet]

Because I don’t nail turns sometimes

[split zenith]

how come

[split zenith]

isn't that a skill issue tho

[split zenith]

shriek it gives iframes

[wind garnet]

It’s impossible to nailturn when following PV during the triple slash

It’s really really hard

[lapis musk]

oh wtf i didnt know that

Thanks twin

[fossil flume]

WHAT?

[lapis musk]

impossible or very very hard

[fossil flume]

oh wait

i readd that wrong

[split zenith]

I was kidding

[wind garnet]

I can only do it in specific patterns

[split zenith]

don't believe everything you read on the internet

[wind garnet]

Like in the current wr

[lapis musk]

Gotcha

[split zenith]

unless I say it

[fossil flume]

i readd it wrong too

im just practicing shit

so boring

[digital abyss]

you never asked ME to

[haughty edge]

hi

[fossil flume]

this overbind thing is fucking my movement

[wind garnet]

But if I’m in the middle of the arena after doing jump ntas in pillars then they do a triple slash I’m most likely not going to nail turn after I make the jump

[noble ruin]

I never asked anyone else to they just invited me to

[wind garnet]

Sorry it’s hard to explain but it makes sense to me lol

[digital abyss]

sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[noble ruin]

Sifh

Sigh

[digital abyss]

sifu

[wind garnet]

So basically I always land hits with triple slash but I lose dps since I don’t always ntas while pillars are usually ntas Heaven

[split zenith]

suscat should switch to absrad speedkills

[wind garnet]

No

[fossil flume]

hey nonsenf does socd help with nailt urn arounds?