hk-discussion

[analog hornet]

no like i'm serious about this i really like this build, and i often feel like dream shield is underrated, i mean i beat the game 4 times 112% with this build lol

[warm aurora]

Wrong being wrong

[compact wasp]

no its not underrated

its hot garbage

[worthy peak]

Who cares about the skill shown in the rest of the run, lets feed into negativity by focusing almost purely on the htis taken!

[compact wasp]

but it is good for pv speedruns

[warm aurora]

Have you tried to substitute dreamshield and grimmchild?

You'd have beaten the game 10 times by now with a better build

[foggy sable]

well I thought the hits were funny so

[worthy peak]

True enough :D

[compact wasp]

ye like just throwing on unbreakable strength which costs the same as dreamshield

[foggy sable]

just dashing into fc for no reason

[umbral night]

Does it even do anything
I tried it once
It makes you worse cuz you think the shield will do it's job of shielding you
It does not

[warm aurora]

And it barely deals damage

[analog hornet]

Ik it's not the best thing ever, but i personaly really enjoy this build sure the game is harder or more difficult but i just got used to it

[foggy sable]

I just want to be able to do that but with just the absrad clip one day

[umbral night]

Lol

[compact wasp]

you have only tried that one thing

you have kinda tried nothing else

[analog hornet]

Well the way you use it isn't really as a shield, more so as a support thing

[compact wasp]

so idk if what you have can even really be called a preference

or just being stuck

more like being stuck

[analog hornet]

i did try diffrent charm builds tho, i like did y'know the usual unbreakable strength, Quick slash, and shaman stone of death

i just like dream shield lol

[umbral night]

Support thing should be able to support gang
Drop the shield, equip the strength

[compact wasp]

dude dreamshield is doing nothing in that list

it is a good emotional support tool

but I can promise you its not doing anything worthwhile

[warm aurora]

No grimmchild is that already

Its weird to have 2 for that

[compact wasp]

some people are okay with being weird and I respect that

[foggy sable]

sharp shadow...

[warm aurora]

-# (Its odd to have 1)

[umbral night]

Sorry i shouldn't be laughing when he said it's his favourite build

[compact wasp]

we will come to that ragebait in the next episode

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[warm aurora]

Atleast it isnt 3 notches

[compact wasp]

yeah

[analog hornet]

I mean eh, dunno why dream shield is my fav charm in hollow knight it's not even about it's utility i just like it being there for some reason

[compact wasp]

so stockholm syndrome

[warm aurora]

Silksong has a tool just like that
I will not elaborate

[compact wasp]

you can cover yourself in blankets irl

that would do more than dreamshield does in-game

[foggy sable]

okay but I would play hk like that

[compact wasp]

i do play hk like that

in fact I am doing that rn

[foggy sable]

if it were practical for me

[umbral night]

I'd die in the coming heatwave

[warm aurora]

I cant say this in defence of dreamshield tho

[compact wasp]

and its a shame because dreamshield would have been good if it costed one notch

well not good but usable for sure

it costing 3 notches is just atrocious

[warm aurora]

And grimmchild was in the build too

[worthy peak]

im jealous

[foggy sable]

simply move past the need for charms and you can run it

[analog hornet]

Idk tho as much as people dog shit on dream shield, it does sometimes come in clutch, like i remember that in my first time beatin abs Rad was at one mask and then dream shield blocked that last orb that was gonna hit me and dunno it just sat there in my mind

[compact wasp]

ye I can tell you why strength would do the same thing better in a way you wouldn't need the said clutch

that's not a good defense my guy

[warm aurora]

Absrad would have been long dead already with strength tho

You cant compare what you never used

It might save you in tough situations which you dont want to be in in the first place

[compact wasp]

or just embrace chaos and go all bindings

[analog hornet]

y'know what, lemme just boot hollow knight like right now and put on the infinity gauntlet charm build (strength, shaman, and quick slash)

just to test it out

[warm aurora]

You never tested it?

[worthy peak]

I think it would be about average if it were 2 notches...

[compact wasp]

2 notch is too much

only one.

[tawdry bolt]

would be cool if dreamwielder + dream shield created a second shield like markoth

[warm aurora]

I personally like to add twister as last charm but any 2 notch works

Or 2 1 notches

[compact wasp]

it would be good if it DIDN'T BREAK

[umbral night]

You'll be thanking the people here in 10 mins
I don't even use charms a lot but ik they're absolutely goated

[compact wasp]

strength makes your nail do more damage than a non shaman stone shade soul

[analog hornet]

no soul twister is usually a key thing in my charm builds like it's always there like the only time i really change my charm build is when i enter white palace where i change dreamshield and grimmy with deep focus and grubson, but like dreamwielder and twister is always there, so like eh

[warm aurora]

How do you not use charms a lot when stuck at p3 or am I missing context or am I misremembering that you said you didnt beat p3?

[compact wasp]

so you never did path of pain

that explains it

[analog hornet]

i did path of pain actually

[warm aurora]

Do know that twister is better when you plan to use spells

[compact wasp]

grimmchild path of pain?

[analog hornet]

NO???

ARE YOU INSANE

[worthy peak]

Hmm... I mean... ive used it a bit and definitely felt about worth it with 2 notches... but like i cant explain why....

[compact wasp]

idk dude your charm build makes me think you would do that

[umbral night]

Uh I'm gonna not answer that question for now
I'm too bad for p3 let's just say

[warm aurora]

Fact: You dont need hiveblood deepfocus grubsong in path of pain if you hit the lever

[forest wren]

optimal

[warm aurora]

Eventually

[analog hornet]

grimm child path of pain is more a punishment then a blessing

[compact wasp]

but ye test it out and tell us

throw on steady body too if you want

helps quick slash

[foggy sable]

my favourite charms is nmg

[analog hornet]

👍

[foggy sable]

if only it had a use lategame in optimal builds aside from f5

[warm aurora]

For favorite charm I am going to have to say strength

Idk what else

[sick mica]

whose after uumuu in p5?

[compact wasp]

my favourite would be nailmaster's glory

[analog hornet]

i don't like steady body tried using it for a good while but it just isn't for me am used to the knockback but i know it's potential

[compact wasp]

cuz all bindings

[umbral night]

Mine is grubsong

[warm aurora]

Mystery

[compact wasp]

I use WAY too much nail arts

[tawdry bolt]

mine is fury

[compact wasp]

that is ingrained in me

[sick mica]

bruh

[analog hornet]

dream shield-

[umbral night]

Always one hp
I can relate

[warm aurora]

Fury is very fun when you can use it, I only used it for zotes final version and ascended absrad

[compact wasp]

just test it out and tell us

[warm aurora]

Lol

[analog hornet]

ok ok

[compact wasp]

I swear dreamshield is like a toxic ex

[analog hornet]

okay im in godhome

[warm aurora]

-# its mystery tho

[forest wren]

my favorite charm is uhhhh mantis claw

[umbral night]

Movement ability*

[compact wasp]

the only possible way dreamshield was good was when someone did a minimal nail strikes challenge in hk

[warm aurora]

Lumafly lantern

[tawdry bolt]

you mean mark of pride?

[forest wren]

bro taake aj OKE

[forest wren]

he get s it

[warm aurora]

Circle motion waiting simulator

[umbral night]

Yes sir
My bad

[compact wasp]

walmart markoth

[forest wren]

no need to apologize

i understand

[umbral night]

Mhm

[foggy sable]

walmarkoth

[warm aurora]

Wall only markoth

[umbral night]

I really should go run the route now
Else I'll be too tired to
And it burns me out like hell

Cya chat

[warm aurora]

Cya

[forest wren]

cya

[compact wasp]

old nail dream shield is dollar store markoth

[foggy sable]

...dollarkoth

[forest wren]

door

[analog hornet]

alr they are equipped

[forest wren]

who

[analog hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

FU

[forest wren]

HAHA

[analog hornet]

EVERY TIME

[forest wren]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[warm aurora]

241 messages to go

[analog hornet]

Quick slash, strength, and shaman

anyways lets fight the moth

[forest wren]

goodie goodie

you should also put on grimmchild

for good luck i think

[warm aurora]

Good joke but not here

[forest wren]

why

[warm aurora]

The context is that they used to run a build dreamshield grimmchild and some better charms

And are now trying the meta build

You couldnt know that

[bold rose]

carefree

[forest wren]

isee

[analog hornet]

i don't feel much of a diffrence with abs rad lemme try NKG since he isn't as air bone as abs rad

born*

[worthy peak]

oblobbles are such a pain when stressed...

[warm aurora]

Pv or grounded bosses work well

And any boss that isnt from the final 3 probably works

(Boss where the meta build is most notable)

[late ice]

Hi

[forest wren]

no

[analog hornet]

the final three are like my base ground when it comes to messin around lol

anyways

honestly i don't feel much of a difrence i equipped the 3 charms of death and like i beat nkg at around the same time as i would with my usual build

probably is because i'm more of a passive player

[warm aurora]

Its a meta build necause it works on every boss

And nkg and absrad are just more air based

[analog hornet]

oh i see

well eh dunno 🤷 i guess i'm still gonan stick with my usual build honestly i feel more fun playing that way

[worthy peak]

absrad i would expect to be significantly faster with quickslash cause it lets you hti twice per jump in ground and about 41% faster in plats...

[warm aurora]

And then strength

A straightup 33% decrease

Because 50% more damage

[analog hornet]

Yeah that's what i thought as well really

[warm aurora]

50% is an insane number

[worthy peak]

spell damage...

[warm aurora]

There is a reason why no tool in silksong comes even close, TC seems to intentionally be trying to make less extreme charms

[analog hornet]

i mean dream shield does do the same damage as the nail so who knows

[warm aurora]

Yes...

[thorny frost]

How is silksong harder than voidheart?

[warm aurora]

Dreamshield vs strength btw

[warm aurora]

Personal experience tells best

You can try both first and its doable

[worthy peak]

against absrad its reasonable to be as little as 33% increase

[warm aurora]

I did silksong first

[worthy peak]

yh i saw...

[analog hornet]

Eh idk man, I'm just weird

[worthy peak]

which is still insane

[warm aurora]

Strength does the same damage dreamshield does in 2 hits

[worthy peak]

but slightly less so

[thorny frost]

Im guessing there is harder bosses and techs?

[zinc iris]

Hello strawberry bird

[warm aurora]

And with quickslash that can be 1 jump

[warm aurora]

Hi

[zinc iris]

Another charm debate ?

Is it sharp shadow

[analog hornet]

basically i use Dream shield, grimm child and dream wielder as my main charm build :)

[warm aurora]

Subjective
Tech is never necessary to apply
Bosses are generally harder but your movement is better for it

[analog hornet]

lmao

[warm aurora]

• shaman catcher was it?

[zinc iris]

Don't u like doing dmg

[analog hornet]

ye ye

[warm aurora]

We are conparing qs and strength to dreamshield

And grimmchild ig

Dreamwielder is fine

[zinc iris]

Truly a comparison

[warm aurora]

Catcher is fine too

[zinc iris]

Top 2 charms versus dreamwielder

[analog hornet]

i know that dream shield is no match to it but i'm just used to my play style really

[warm aurora]

Tho with shaman stone spell twister is better as catcher because catcher is better if you heal more which takes away from shaman stone

[zinc iris]

Shield

[knotty ravine]

what’s the uhhh disc

[zinc iris]

U prob don't want to know

[warm aurora]

But if the playstyle involves hitting an enemy, strength works better

You beat p5 I assume

[analog hornet]

ye

[warm aurora]

You should be more than capable to attack

[zinc iris]

Quickslash and strength vs dream shield

[knotty ravine]

also for the record like optimally twister is better but in most instances they’re the exact same, if not catcher being better

[knotty ravine]

this isn’t a discussion this is just correcting a falsity

[warm aurora]

Depends on how much you heal and wether you reach your soul cap

[thorny frost]

What should you have at 40 hours? Like what percentage, items, abilities, and other things?

[warm aurora]

Nothing

[zinc iris]

Game isn't linear

[warm aurora]

You shouldnt compare

[analog hornet]

Tbh 90% of bosses i'm just like auto piloting it

[zinc iris]

Everyone has own pace

[warm aurora]

Quickslash is so fun for that

[zinc iris]

U shd be in greenpath at best

[hoary flicker]

perchance

[thorny frost]

No im just asking like if im good or behind or something

[warm aurora]

I did silksong first and I probably hadnt done 10% if the game by then (tho I didnt take 400 hours)

[warm aurora]

You cant be

[knotty ravine]

Yes buuuut again this doesn’t matter most of the time

[warm aurora]

You need to let that mindset go

[thorny frost]

Wdym

[analog hornet]

the one boss i never radiant was Grey prince zote, Congrats!

[knotty ravine]

at least, they’re pretty much the same strength when comparing charms, and twister shouldn’t be used to devalue catcher when they’re basically the same fucking boss

[warm aurora]

The pacing varies a lot per player

And the order of progression too

[hoary flicker]

pogo

[warm aurora]

For me its absrad

[thorny frost]

Okay im just guessing for average in the first save file for voidheart is 70%?

[zinc iris]

Do u still play or retired after r5

[warm aurora]

Gpz is doable if you first do all statue encounters, they nicely build up in difficulty

[warm aurora]

In 40 hours?
I wouldnt say so

[analog hornet]

abs rad honestly is pretty easy really, if it wasn't for the 4rth phase with the platforms and waitin for abs rad like that phase is just annoying but the rest is just fine

[warm aurora]

I can say that about zote

We have our struggles

[worthy peak]

congrats

[analog hornet]

ye ye

[warm aurora]

Congrats btw

[zinc iris]

Yes I also found absrad rad insanely harder than others

[knotty ravine]

I like KIND of play but I hopped off hk for the large part

[zinc iris]

[knotty ravine]

Also I didn’t do r5 and never will. a 4 hit is good enough. r5 is ass to play

[thorny frost]

Well I do i guess ill google it

[knotty ravine]

never do r5

[warm aurora]

Why

[knotty ravine]

it’s not fun

[warm aurora]

There is no reason at all to compare progress

[thorny frost]

Wait but is that good or bad?

[warm aurora]

Good if anything

[thorny frost]

Okay

[warm aurora]

But why call it good if you are getting through the game faster

[zinc iris]

Don't have the skill anyway

Or patience

[thorny frost]

Im not?

[warm aurora]

You would be

[zinc iris]

I'll be happy after weathered mask

[analog hornet]

Tbh i kinda have this mentality of if there is a boss that is 10 times harder then everything else, i will go for it first and won't stop until i beat it lol

[warm aurora]

You can call both sides good

[zinc iris]

And maybe like p1-4ab

[worthy peak]

Why do you care about comparing times here?

[warm aurora]

Herb did rad absrad first

Then everything else

[zinc iris]

That's what I did lol

[analog hornet]

lmaooo

[thorny frost]

Im just asking for confirmation

[worthy peak]

That doesnt anwser the question...

[analog hornet]

btw for the prev convo before this, uhh i find holllow knight a better game then silksong

[warm aurora]

I cant choose between them

Currently I'd say silksong

But thats because I am now doing bosses hitless in that game

Hence my username

[thorny frost]

Same I've played both

[warm aurora]

But silksong doesnt have its godhome equivalent

But smoother movement, a nicer environment and better music
Not to take away from hk

[pearl sage]

yoo YO

[warm aurora]

And silksong has good lore too

[pearl sage]

HEY HK DISCUSSION ARGUMENT

[analog hornet]

Like i feel like the bosses in hollow knight are usually more iconic then silksong, i mean silksongs highlights are prob both trobbio's fight cogwork dancers, and uhh phantom really while hollow knight has like 90% of bosses designs and lore and attack patterns are all just 10/10 and also hollow knight's ost is better thne silksong too

and alsoo uhhh... hollow knight is more fun to start a run at

[pearl sage]

im a new person now I used to argue in silksong discussion with 200 long paragraphs

[warm aurora]

I would have given this point to hk but after a recent series of videos I saw I am not so sure hk has better lore

[dusky coral]

who is arguing

[ornate yoke]

I just died at thk in steel soul🥀

[dusky coral]

this is a civilised discussion

[warm aurora]

Iconic because older tho

[knotty ravine]

We agree!!!

[ornate yoke]

Sub 2.5 hour run aswell

[warm aurora]

Be mindfuil of sk spoilers here

[knotty ravine]

hk is a better game

[analog hornet]

no no i kinda like picked up on hk like.... just last year

[warm aurora]

Thats how I lost my last steel soul attempt before getting 112% steel soul

[pearl sage]

whats silksong
whats trobbio 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[warm aurora]

I did sk before hk

[analog hornet]

are there really people who still haven't finished silksong yet?

[warm aurora]

Plenty and channel rules

[pearl sage]

yepp

[analog hornet]

shi-

[warm aurora]

You just said yourself you did hk 6 years late

...

[pearl sage]

I'm doing pantheon of pharloom mod

[ornate yoke]

Im going for all 8 remaining achievements with this one steel soul run

The 3 speedrun achievements, 2 steel souls and 3 locked achievements like zote and banishing the troop

[warm aurora]

So did I

Except I got the zote one in my die to thk run

[analog hornet]

i was never going to pick on hollow knight the one reason i played hollow knight was because in my random playlist one day i got "Grimm troupe" and i was like holy shit this is a banger and that made me give hollow knight a shot lmao

[ornate yoke]

Nice

[warm aurora]

Lol

[ornate yoke]

I let zote die in my regular save file to make p3 and p5 easier

But i have p5 and 112% on that file now soo

Worth it

[warm aurora]

I just didnt fight him until after p3, he doesnt need to die for that

[ornate yoke]

And mostly rad hog

[warm aurora]

I then fought him and got him in p5

[ornate yoke]

Ive nevrr fought the boss

[warm aurora]

I dont find zote that bad, very fun even

The statue is a nice buildup to rad

[analog hornet]

the hollow knight community eather hates or loves zote lol (i love zote)

[warm aurora]

No boss has a better training ground as zote

[ornate yoke]

No steel soul attempts have gotten past thk so i dont do side quest stuff like that

[ornate yoke]

Idc abt him

Neutral opinion

[warm aurora]

Hate the character, love the fight

[ornate yoke]

The character is funny as shit tho

[zinc iris]

Are u upgrading ur nail and spell

[analog hornet]

Ikr

[ornate yoke]

Nah speedruning

[warm aurora]

Also, get heart and strength in steel soul

[ornate yoke]

At thk fight i had 6 masks

1 nail upgrade

[analog hornet]

i'm sad there is no zoteboat

but hey

[ornate yoke]

5 charm notches

And decending dark

[warm aurora]

The time isnt nearly too close for that, you can easily get it

[analog hornet]

couldn't you just give ol nosk a visit?

[warm aurora]

I got sub 4 hours with every upgrade I wanted including ismas

[ornate yoke]

Fuck nosk

Worst fucking boss the game

[analog hornet]

they have a free pale ore

[ornate yoke]

I hate that bitch

[warm aurora]

And 2 nail upgrades

[analog hornet]

WOAH WOAH WOAH

nahh

[zinc iris]

Did u use any route or

[warm aurora]

Nope

[worthy peak]

You say that... but marmu exists

[zinc iris]

Nah nosk ain't that bad

[ornate yoke]

I use my own custom route

[worthy peak]

its impossible to be worse than marmu

[zinc iris]

There are bosses that are pain to fight and unfun

[warm aurora]

High skill jokes

[zinc iris]

Aka Gaelian

[analog hornet]

Nosk has the best build up in the whole game

and one of the top 5 boss themes

[warm aurora]

Absrad?

Nkg?

Pv

All have a good buildup

And many more

[analog hornet]

wdym?

[ornate yoke]

Basically i just get cloak and claw like normal rhen to left sode cot to get dive then crystal peaks and i get ddark at the end then enter resting grounds and after that its just get the 3 dreamers

[analog hornet]

Nosk beats all of that

[warm aurora]

The radiance

Had a whole area infected

[ornate yoke]

Abs rad wins for bets build up

[zinc iris]

Pv has only buildup reaching end of p4

[analog hornet]

Ik, but nosk is like full on psychological horror, dunno but that's just my take

[silver spoke]

nosk has a good build up but then ruins it with a trash fight

[ornate yoke]

The ENTIRETY of p5

[warm aurora]

Ig there is a difference in lore and gqmeplay buildup

[ornate yoke]

Exactly

[analog hornet]

yeah excatly

like everything about nosk is peak just not the gameplay

[warm aurora]

Wosk buildup

[zinc iris]

Absrad is built i think even from the start of godhome

Now wosk is a lame fight

[silver spoke]

NKG has a whole quest

[warm aurora]

And a lame buildup because its short

Grimmchild

[ornate yoke]

But then you fight nkg

[warm aurora]

God tamer has a good buildup

[ornate yoke]

Worst boss out of the big 3 imo

[zinc iris]

With no challenge stuff for me obblobles id the worst boss

[ornate yoke]

Pv is my favourite

Absrad 2nd

And nkg last

[zinc iris]

Otherwise with challenge stuff

It's prob Gaelian

[ornate yoke]

Spell spam ho brbrbrbbrbbrbrb

[silver spoke]

Pv aura farms for the buildup and that is all I need

[warm aurora]

I cant really rank the big 3 because absrad would change a lot if I got better at it

Currently pv over nkg

[silver spoke]

1. PV
2. NKG

3. ABSRAD

[zinc iris]

Get back on the rad grind

[ornate yoke]

My brother called him gaylian🥀 like vro its 2026 dont use gay as an insult

[analog hornet]

NKG has the best music out of the three
2nd best in gameplay
best design
easy difficulty
and uhh dunno they have shit ton aura

[warm aurora]

Doing silksong bosses hitless charmless rn

[silver spoke]

absrad is the most overrated boss

[warm aurora]

Hence the new username

[ornate yoke]

Easiest difficulty is crazy

Imo hes the hardest

Pv was my first radiant

[analog hornet]

wdym i mean he is the easiest

[silver spoke]

NKG WAS THE FIRST BOSS I RAIDANTED OUT OF EVERY BOSS

[zinc iris]

I'm not idk his spelling actually

[warm aurora]

He is currently 2nd easiest for me

[analog hornet]

bro i beat them with nail 0 and 5 masks 😭

[zinc iris]

Damn

[silver spoke]

pv was the hardest boss in the game for me

[ornate yoke]

I got absrad radiant in 2 hours

[zinc iris]

Help me when I eventually play

[ornate yoke]

Hes easy as shit

Easier than thk

[silver spoke]

he literally isnt

[zinc iris]

Cap

[analog hornet]

SAME

[warm aurora]

I just planned for hitless but silksongs equivalent of charms arent that big to just not use

[silver spoke]

you are objectively wrong

[ornate yoke]

Thk has bullshit patterns

[analog hornet]

peak ragebate

[digital salmon]

I was about to get the desolate dive upgrade then got told I need to get food

[ornate yoke]

Pv is predictable and really not that hard

[warm aurora]

I found absrad miles above anything hk and sk has

[zinc iris]

With similar conditions thk is always easier

[silver spoke]

same can be said for NKG

[zinc iris]

Rad or even normal

[ornate yoke]

I can hop in a vc screen share and 1 attempts radiant pv with no warm up

[warm aurora]

Blob rng
Tho still easier does make him more tedious

[analog hornet]

y'know your experience with PV is like my experience with NKG huh

[ornate yoke]

And i bet id take 3-5 hits for thk

[warm aurora]

Normal

[silver spoke]

and NKG gives you 30 chances to heal

[zinc iris]

Damn

[silver spoke]

every fight

[ornate yoke]

Nkg isnt even hard

Nothing in hk is hard

[warm aurora]

If I trained nkg more he'd be fine but I like and therefore play pv more

[molten forge]

When you learn a boss it becomes easier no shot

[zinc iris]

U haven't done some of the extreme stuff then

[ornate yoke]

I havent even played but ive heard its an actually hard game

[zinc iris]

That's all

[analog hornet]

i'm not saying you can't do pv hitless i'm sayin thk is objectivly easier then PV

[silver spoke]

do r5ab

[zinc iris]

Hk is very hard if u want it to be

[analog hornet]

it's like comparing hornet protector with hornet sentinal

[ornate yoke]

I have radiant abs rad😭

[young lake]

thats not extreme

[warm aurora]

It doesnt end there

[molten forge]

honestly, thats easy, just time consuming 😎

[zinc iris]

That's good but not what I mean

[analog hornet]

cough cough me who uses Dreamshield and grimm child

[silver spoke]

hornet protector is WAY HARDER THAN HORNEY SENTINEL

[zinc iris]

P5ab is where it starts id say

[hazy trellis]

I beat Traitor Lord on my fourth try 😉

[ornate yoke]

True i could do bindings then radiant bindings

[umbral otter]

lmao

[ornate yoke]

Aura

[warm aurora]

Sure

[simple coral]

off topic from what yall are discussing, but which boss is your favorite to fight?

[zinc iris]

Pv

[warm aurora]

Thats close to what we are discussing
Pv

Zote 2nd

[ornate yoke]

Thats because you had 2 hours of playing the game before you fight protector which is the first non completely free boss

[warm aurora]

Hk only

I assume

[umbral otter]

Oh

[ornate yoke]

And sentinal is extremely weak for the stage of game you can fight her

[warm aurora]

And channel rules

[umbral otter]

Sorry

[warm aurora]

Its not that extreme

[umbral otter]

I didn't check the channel name

mb

[warm aurora]

But I just have to mention it

[analog hornet]

:O
(well actually ehh dunno like for newbies they'd die to hornet protector a shit bunch of time but for me who played the game for quite a bit literally i come in to hornet's fight like conquest from invicible lol)

[tawdry bolt]

pv, zote, collector, absrad

[ornate yoke]

Like sentinal is available at thr same time as watcher knights and lost kin🥀

[warm aurora]

I mean #hk-general includes both games, thats a little confusing

[ornate yoke]

Pv by far

Best boss in the game

And its not close

[warm aurora]

Bindings?

[young lake]

absrad

[silver spoke]

1. PV
2. Sisters of battle
3. NKG
4. watcher knights
   5.uumuu

[tawdry bolt]

yes

[molten forge]

Soul tyrant tbh

[umbral otter]

Zote, PV, NKG

[ornate yoke]

I forgot sob thats actually my favourite

[warm aurora]

Otherwise collector is a little odd
Nice

[zinc iris]

Soul tyrant is rlly fun i agree

[warm aurora]

Yes

[digital salmon]

So guys grub mother is the hardest boss in the game right

[warm aurora]

I like most of p4
P4 is very fun to replay

[zinc iris]

Yes

[ornate yoke]

I tried to beat him early in my run so my opinion him is forever hating him

[silver spoke]

I was joking I first tried protector

[warm aurora]

Costed me more p5 runs as pv

[ornate yoke]

I did not

[analog hornet]

hornet sentinal can be really difficult if you aren't ready for it i often under estimate hornet sentinal when i start a hollow knight run because i beat her in godhome before, but like when i do the aspid skip to get to her i get clapped because of rng hatin on me

[ornate yoke]

I was SHIT at hk when i first downloaded the tame

[zinc iris]

I didn't like him at first but he grew on me during pantheons

[silver spoke]

soul tyrant is horrible to radiant because his second phase requires patience

[ornate yoke]

Like dying ever 5 minutes

[warm aurora]

Gruz mother costed me more p5 runs as pv and zote combined, and zote was in my p5

[ornate yoke]

Barely making it to benchs

[zinc iris]

Crazy lore

[digital salmon]

So basically worse than radiance

[main anchor]

guys my lost kin got staggered and is perma falling in a wall lmao, free heal (not like the boss was hard)

[ornate yoke]

No eyes cost me the most p5 attempts

I died there twice

🥀

[warm aurora]

I just couldnt do phase 2 and stopped trying until I just hitlessed phase 2 in p4 once and then got it

[analog hornet]

I was so bad at hollow knight i stopped playing it for 5 months after beating THK because of how much i suffered from it lol

[finite sandal]

Hello I joined because I want to play hollow knight but the controls don’t work

[ornate yoke]

I died at god tamer, nkg and abs rad

[warm aurora]

Sheo absrad and markoth all costed me 4

[ornate yoke]

Thats it

[analog hornet]

and then grimm was the reason i repicked the game lol

[zinc iris]

Uhh ummu into winged nosk and sly

[silver spoke]

were you drunk fighting no eyes I died to Pv like 8 times

[ornate yoke]

Only abs rad because i had never faught the boss

[zinc iris]

Cost me a bunch of deaths

[warm aurora]

I find pv way more doable as radiance

[zinc iris]

In p5

[warm aurora]

By a lot

[finite sandal]

Neither keyboard or controller worked

[zinc iris]

But I didn't know spells wud trigger the jellyfjish then

[digital salmon]

Just gotta play telepathically ig

[ornate yoke]

I just glass canon my way thru the prior boss so i always walk into the fight low

[silver spoke]

abs rad is the least fun and most overrated boss in terms of popularity and difficulty

[zinc iris]

Difficulty is fairly rated id say

[silver spoke]

no

it just isnt

[ornate yoke]

And for some reason no eyes with ascended arena is genuinely the hardest boss for me

[warm aurora]

Lost Kin no eyes traitor lord is such a random segment for me that costed me deaths

[zinc iris]

What even is a fair difficulty rating

[ornate yoke]

I agree

[compact wasp]

i would say absrad is fun though

[tawdry bolt]

which one do you think it's harder?

[silver spoke]

PV

[ornate yoke]

When i beat her for the first time it didnt even feel accomplishing

[ornate yoke]

Nah pv is free

[zinc iris]

Nah pv is super chill compared to her imo

[compact wasp]

pv is kinda nothing once you get the hang of it

[silver spoke]

PV for me was the real fight absrad is just the victory lap

[tawdry bolt]

I highly disagree

[warm aurora]

Disagree

-# 2 months

[ornate yoke]

Nkg harder

[remote bear]

any1 know a legit way to get steam giftcards for free i wan get hk on steam

[zinc iris]

Very consistent punishes

[ornate yoke]

Not without leaking sin

[warm aurora]

That sounds close to piracy

[silver spoke]

NKG aint even in the top 5 hardest bosses

[compact wasp]

pv is realy consistent

[ornate yoke]

Get da fuk out

[compact wasp]

absrad is always a threat

[ornate yoke]

Exactly hes free

[compact wasp]

nkg is even more free

[digital salmon]

Do I even need to beat hollow knight if I dreamt of beating it already❤️‍🩹

[molten forge]

Odd, never heard of that issue before

[ornate yoke]

Radiant pv easier than normal nkg imo

[remote bear]

piracy sucks for hk

[compact wasp]

like nkg is stupidly easy. You just have a mindblock at nkg

[remote bear]

ima be honest

[zinc iris]

Difficulty is pretty subjective

[remote bear]

what

[compact wasp]

pv is a lot harder than nkg though

[silver spoke]

so what type of drugdid you inhale writing this

[zinc iris]

No point abt it

[compact wasp]

if we are seeing by number of moves and flow

pv is a far harder

[ornate yoke]

None

[finite sandal]

I can’t even get out of the menu screen

[ornate yoke]

Pv is just genuinely easy for me

[zinc iris]

Check ur bindings

[finite sandal]

Or in

[compact wasp]

then how tf is nkg harder for you than pv?

[silver spoke]

NKG IS EVEN EASIER

[warm aurora]

Yes tho I practiced it significantly more and now had closer calls with nkg

[finite sandal]

What?

[zinc iris]

Uninstall and reinstall

[ornate yoke]

I would rather fight radiant pv 5 times back to back than nkg

[remote bear]

what is "leaking sin"

[molten forge]

are you on pc, is it possible its accidently pairing to another device or controller

[finite sandal]

I have

[ornate yoke]

Because im 100% consistent at pv

[compact wasp]

that doesn't make nkg harder. you just suck at nkg.

[finite sandal]

Many times

[ornate yoke]

Not nkg

[zinc iris]

Pc key binding check em

Where did u get it

[ornate yoke]

Its harder for me

Difficulty is subjective

[compact wasp]

because you didn't practice him

[ornate yoke]

No

[compact wasp]

its not subjective when you have practiced one more

that is just an oversight

[warm aurora]

We are making difficulty sound objective

[compact wasp]

not preferencee

[ornate yoke]

Ive played all 3 for about 2 hours in hog

[warm aurora]

Thats is possible when there are objective arguments

But those are rare

[empty lynx]

they suck at nkg so nkg is harder for them
which is why i find radabsrad harder than rab gpz
Or something idk what are you guys talking about

[finite sandal]

HP OmniBook 7 Laptop

[ornate yoke]

I got radiant on pv and abs rad but not even ascended on nkg

[warm aurora]

2 hours pales in comparison to me atleast for pv and especially absrad

[zinc iris]

Did u get it on steam

[warm aurora]

Thats insane

[finite sandal]

Yes

[silver spoke]

NKG gives you so long to react a 50 year old grandma could react to it NKG gives you 50 healing oppurtunities and the attacks are so easy to dodge

[keen thorn]

Bro I think I just saw an "influencer" in the wild 💀

[zinc iris]

Never heard of this issue

[ornate yoke]

Exactly

[warm aurora]

Never heared that before

[ornate yoke]

For me hes the hardest

[worthy peak]

21st done... finally... which should i do next i wonder

[ornate yoke]

Actually

[zinc iris]

Verify ur files perhaps

[ornate yoke]

Radiant no eyes would be the hardest for me

[finite sandal]

All other games I have in my catalog work perfectly fine

[warm aurora]

What challange

[worthy peak]

huh?

[compact wasp]

like nkg is far slower than pure vessel. He has much more telegraphed attacks. You can literally memorize him and never fail him again. I won't say he is not hard. I have beaten pure vessel hundreds upon hundreds of times, but I would still say nkg is easier because he is just that easy to memorize

[zinc iris]

?tag verify

[idle belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910762350267744276/1201992451418759179/hk_verify_integrity_2.png

[remote bear]

markoth

[ornate yoke]

I cant fight that boss for shit

[empty lynx]

oro and mato

[zinc iris]

Try this

[worthy peak]

r04 in this case

[compact wasp]

absrad

[ornate yoke]

Pv is even easier to memorize

[keen thorn]

Those people that just blog absolutely everything in their life
I thought they were just a myth

[empty lynx]

my offer still stands

[warm aurora]

No

[silver spoke]

honestly I could send someone that has never played hollow knight NKG and they beat it in an hour

[zinc iris]

Hello Genio

[compact wasp]

I can give you a lot of reasons why that's not the case lol

[empty lynx]

sure i agree

[ornate yoke]

Like literally just dodge attack hit once jump twice repeat

[compact wasp]

nkg is even more braindead than that

[ornate yoke]

Its so fucking easy

[silver spoke]

SAME GOES FOR NKG

[keen thorn]

I was walking around the store and found a random girl with her phone above her recording as she talked to it with some ridiculous facial expressions

[compact wasp]

nkg can't even parry

[warm aurora]

But wouldnt that go for pv too?

[compact wasp]

pv can parry and is faster

[ornate yoke]

No nkg you read the attacks

[remote bear]

yo whats better for hollow knight gog or steam

[silver spoke]

well considering it took me 4 hours to beat pv at first no

[empty lynx]

ok hold on whats the topic

[warm aurora]

Pv parry just means damage if you just shadecloaked (which is rarely the case but still)

[zinc iris]

Damn ignored

[silver spoke]

guess what you do with pv

[ornate yoke]

Pv i do the same thing for every attack except the big white ball thing

[empty lynx]

me too bro its ok

[ornate yoke]

I do the same thing for every attack

I dont have to read

[keen thorn]

Hi herb

[worthy peak]

They only make sense to be a myth. What do they have to talk about if all the do is vlog...

[compact wasp]

so it is harder for you. What you are saying is just you are really bad at nkg

[zinc iris]

Hru

[warm aurora]

But those times just vary per person
Nkg took me close to pv time probably (dont remember exactly)

[ornate yoke]

I guess

[silver spoke]

NKG took me 14 attempts

[ornate yoke]

I not necessarily bad

[compact wasp]

you are

[keen thorn]

I'm good. Finals are almost over

[ornate yoke]

Nkg is just the hardest for me

[warm aurora]

But thats just crazy on your end

Thats not average

[empty lynx]

well if thats what you claim thats fine

[ornate yoke]

I could probably get radnkg today if i grinded

[compact wasp]

attempt counter doesn't matter for difficulty though

[empty lynx]

specifically if its for you

[zinc iris]

Nice u doing any hk challenge after

[umbral night]

I died to a small bug in howling cliffs after surviving sanctum
Only me
Why did i think i could survive a tik tik with one hp

[compact wasp]

what matters is how often you can repeat it

[warm aurora]

Your friends can be like you
But that doesnt make nkg easier

[silver spoke]

I mean there is literally a practice version called grim with almost identicle attacks

[ornate yoke]

Thats what ive been this entire time

That imo nkg is the hardest boss

[empty lynx]

then sure

[warm aurora]

I know, I radianted them as practice
I took way way way more as 14 attempts

[ornate yoke]

Markoth and no eyes probably harder to radiant thi

[keen thorn]

Yeah idk what yet

[compact wasp]

honestly I wonder how can someone still struggle on nkg after radiant absolute radiance

[ornate yoke]

Never actually attempted but they seem like cancer

[compact wasp]

because after that nkg straight up felt boring to me

[empty lynx]

no eyes no not really markoth possibly

[warm aurora]

Than who?
Pv and nkg are easier to radiant as them imo but absrad is way harder

[worthy peak]

cause nkg is hard :(

[warm aurora]

I got a very good strat for no eyes rad tho

[compact wasp]

harder than absrad radiant?

[zinc iris]

Did u ever finish
Dashless r5

[compact wasp]

(I know you are joking strawberry)

[ornate yoke]

Radiant abs rad was slightly easier than pv for me

[silver spoke]

absrad is harder to radiant than pv but pv is a harder bossfight normally

[worthy peak]

seems similar in difficulty

[empty lynx]

surprised

[ornate yoke]

Valid opinion

[worthy peak]

(NKG asc = rad absrad about like a month ago for me)

[warm aurora]

Normal absrad took me 2 months
Pv (maybe 1 or 2 days)
And thats just normal difficulty
Rad pv wasnt so bad
I have not yet done rad absrad

[empty lynx]

mostly because absrad has alot of healing opportunities

[ornate yoke]

I radianted pv prior to even attempting p5 tho

[zinc iris]

Don't u guys know AB nkg is the hardest gaming boss ever

[ornate yoke]

So rad pv was my first actually hard thing i did

[compact wasp]

frfr

[ornate yoke]

And it skill boosted me

[silver spoke]

which is the same reason why I think NKG is easier (along with easily telegraphed attacks)

[empty lynx]

thats nice

[ornate yoke]

So then radabsrad felt easier in comparison

[compact wasp]

everyone who has done p5ab knows that ab nkg is the hardest

[ornate yoke]

Because my skill was highrr

[warm aurora]

-# disagree

[umbral night]

Nkg isn't that hard
You fought grimm, you already know his attacks
And i haven't cleared p3, so you can take it from me

[warm aurora]

P3 has grimm

[ornate yoke]

Same reason the first i beat hornet protector was harder than the first time i beat abs rad🥀

Cuz i was shit at the game then

[compact wasp]

spike. That means you haven't fought pv

[ornate yoke]

Like genuinely ass

[compact wasp]

that hurts your point more than it helps

[zinc iris]

Crazy comparison

[warm aurora]

Thats still weird

[zinc iris]

Hornet 1 and absrad

[silver spoke]

I would try to prove pv is harder but I have practiced pv so much I would smoke him and I have like 1/8th of the experience on absrad

[umbral night]

True🤣

[ornate yoke]

First time i beat*

[compact wasp]

absrad is fun to fight though

[ornate yoke]

like false knight took me 3 attempts

[compact wasp]

she just takes a while to click

[warm aurora]

We both have too much practice to conpare now but absrad took me 9 weeks to get down for p5
Pv took me probably a few days regarding p4

[empty lynx]

i could probably grind r5 in those 10 hours before my last exam

[ornate yoke]

Thats how shit i was when i first played hk

[compact wasp]

don't.

[ornate yoke]

Study vro

[zinc iris]

Hop to it

[umbral night]

But
Bottom line, nkg isn't too hard

[warm aurora]

No thats still weird

[ornate yoke]

Its finals aint it

[empty lynx]

its english

[zinc iris]

Who cares abr exams anyway

[ornate yoke]

Yeah not really

[compact wasp]

okay then play games

who tf cares about english

[zinc iris]

This is a jk for legal reasons

[empty lynx]

yay

[keen thorn]

No lol but I was in my PC arc

[ornate yoke]

Im homeschooled so certainly not me

[remote bear]

2 months...

[empty lynx]

my classmates which i highkey should return the favour to

[warm aurora]

Yes

[worthy peak]

Oh, @keen thorn how does obblobbles dsync work...

[remote bear]

was this like 1 attempt a day

[worthy peak]

no-one else is able to tell me...

[warm aurora]

Herb and azure know it

[silver spoke]

pv took me a week abs rad took like 2 days for me

[zinc iris]

Yeah tht was fun, did that nine sols utuber beat those R04 pc

[warm aurora]

Many per day

[umbral night]

Any bets on where i die this run then
Mine is on sanctum

[empty lynx]

pretty sure it has to do with nail arts and spells

[remote bear]

g

g

[warm aurora]

A few hours per day in the final 2 weeks of the 9

[keen thorn]

Iirc when changing directions they desync a bit

Something like that

Maybe when hit idr

[zinc iris]

Uve played alot right

[compact wasp]

oblobbles can be the bane of my existence sometimes

[zinc iris]

I don't think you'll die

[empty lynx]

obblobobobloes are cute

[warm aurora]

Credit to Herb and Azure for the absrad help

[tawdry bolt]

I tested once, they can dsync even without hit

[worthy peak]

[empty lynx]

mantis lord

[keen thorn]

Idk I haven't checked but turns out they were indeed inspired by me

[zinc iris]

Np

[warm aurora]

[umbral night]

Yeah
Thanks Herb
I'll try

[empty lynx]

oh thats pretty fucky

[silver spoke]

I hate how sisters of battle can desync if you try to spell spam just like the average hk player

[empty lynx]

aw

[umbral night]

Not them
I never die to them

[tawdry bolt]

which sucks, garbage boss

[compact wasp]

average hk player?

[empty lynx]

overcharm fury with lifeblood please

[warm aurora]

This was exactly my first reaction to the boss and now I cant hate them

[naive dew]

@keen thorn

[silver spoke]

yes hk players just spam spells

[ornate yoke]

Technically sly took me 8 months because i first fought him in may last year then my computer blew up so i couldnt play for about 3 months and i started playing osu (which i still do i only got back into hk a week ago) but i sly in like January this year then this week ive beat p4-5 radiant pv and absrad and almost got a sub 2.5 hour steel soul run

[compact wasp]

dude r5 players also spam spells

[warm aurora]

2 months of active play

[umbral night]

Ok i will attempt fury overworld mantis lords
If i die it's on me

[empty lynx]

ehhhh i dont think so most end up being nail mains

[warm aurora]

Mostly

[compact wasp]

you aren't better for not spamming spells

you are just not good at using spells if you don't use them that often

[empty lynx]

spamming spells with a thought process put behind them

[zinc iris]

I think any player who has access to spells love using em

[ornate yoke]

I dont spam but i use them

[compact wasp]

yep

[warm aurora]

Many of my messages between february and april probably include my absrad arc

[compact wasp]

ddark on sisters helps a ton

[ornate yoke]

Like ddark for iframes mainly

[silver spoke]

I like fighting the boss

[umbral night]

Overcharmed fury shaman

[compact wasp]

ye we do too lol

[warm aurora]

*Most

[river inlet]

hi guys

[warm aurora]

Throwback to that one guy who recommended summons over spells

[empty lynx]

dude i finally got a streamer to use shamman stone in trial of the fool
the guy was still genuinely missing every shade soul hit. on the winged fools.

[compact wasp]

damn wasn't expecting to meet someone who thinks using spells is a form of not fighting

[silver spoke]

well considering that your boss is dead by time I got 3 nail hits idk

[river inlet]

holy shit

[compact wasp]

what are you even getting at?

[empty lynx]

we dont like marmu sorry

[silver spoke]

spamming spells get rid of half the challenge of the game

[ornate yoke]

Aww hell nah

[warm aurora]

I told this back then but a bit back I found a streamer who was doing p5
With unupgraded nail on a first playthrough

They somehow got to p5

And ran weaverlings sprintmaster

[empty lynx]

iam proud

[compact wasp]

..you know I have done p5 nail only right?

[empty lynx]

iam disappointed

[warm aurora]

And grubsong longnail and some other charms

[compact wasp]

like what you are saying holds zero meaning

[tropic nest]

play itemless then if spells in godhome is so unfair
Playing no doesnt make it more skillful, and it doesnt make the player better

[ornate yoke]

I tried once then accidentally used ddark on pv out if habit

[zinc iris]

Lol tht was so funny

[empty lynx]

that doesnt really help with this but sure
i still dont think spells "delete challenges"

[warm aurora]

And that streamer ended up stuck on absrad to the point where they fully upgraded their nail and still didnt make it

[ornate yoke]

It was my second p5 clear tho

Pretty cool

[warm aurora]

Across an 8 hour stream

[compact wasp]

well the dude thinks that we use spells to not fight the boss

when half the fun in p5ab is spell management

[warm aurora]

They did reach absrad with 0 nail upgrades, have to give them that

[compact wasp]

(also sorry, I am a bit agitated right now cuz it is like 1 am)

[ornate yoke]

Ab is just “how much can you manipulate spell twister”

[compact wasp]

(so english might not be englishing here)

[zinc iris]

Same

[empty lynx]

i mean good point but also i couldnt give less of a shit you cant make me have a real fight WITH MARMU

[void river]

GO TO SLEEP BRO

[zinc iris]

I shd sleep

[warm aurora]

Lol

[silver spoke]

are you talking about charms if so fair point

[compact wasp]

ab is all bindings. you don't have spell twister

[tawdry bolt]

what the

[ornate yoke]

I went to bed at 3am last night its mot that deep

[empty lynx]

uh

[ornate yoke]

Right i forgot no charms

[tropic nest]

no
this is sounding like low gear elitism for no reason though

[warm aurora]

Mot?
Dreams?

[void river]

sorry i overreacted :/

[warm aurora]

Fair reaction tho

[ornate yoke]

Mask and soul are the only bindings ive played

[compact wasp]

when low gear elitism just means someone sucks at using the full gear usually

[ornate yoke]

Lowk i should get eb on p1-4 today

[warm aurora]

P1-4eb is doable if you did p5

[empty lynx]

its okay you just gotta
@compact wasp go to sleep or fucking die to || flukemarm || like eloki.

[warm aurora]

I did p1-4eb pre p5

[compact wasp]

NO

NO I WON'T HEAD TO BED

[warm aurora]

Tho I did reach absrad before doing any bindings on any pantheon

[compact wasp]

its a SUNDAY TOMORROW

[zinc iris]

It is Sunday now actually

[empty lynx]

too bad it's either depression or exhaustion pick your poison

[ornate yoke]

Saturday (aka today) is lowk better tho

[warm aurora]

-# I did bindings because I was tired of absrad for 2 months

[ornate yoke]

Sunday is busy for me

[compact wasp]

but dw I will sleep in like 30 minutes

just not now

[empty lynx]

happy for you : )

[void river]

Funny on how i SOMEHOW died to flukemarm a few mins ago. my skill issue was really bad

[compact wasp]

sincerely. How?

how do you die to a parked car?

[empty lynx]

we are ALL losing any kinds of runs to flukemarm at any point in any challenge

[empty lynx]

ask eloki

[void river]

the fucking flying things or whatever they are called

[ornate yoke]

I died to flukemarm in pantheons because my brother unplugged my monitor and i forgot to pause

[compact wasp]

flukefeys?

[warm aurora]

Whos we?

[empty lynx]

flukefucks

[ornate yoke]

So i just died

[warm aurora]

Thats just evil

[compact wasp]

I have lost an r5 run to flukemarm once

that shit hurt

[void river]

i think idk i dont check the journal

[empty lynx]

we except you because you aren't part of the cool kids group u literally angry bird

[silver spoke]

uh no?

[ornate yoke]

It is his monitor wanted so it made sense

[warm aurora]

-# rad might have been a little tedious

[ornate yoke]

He shoulda just told me before unplugging tho

[compact wasp]

you are basically implying that people who use full spells are cowards and don't want to fully fight the boss. That is the definition of low gear elitism

[warm aurora]

Ah

[empty lynx]

its okay we love you still

[warm aurora]

:>

[void river]

random image i got when killing NKG. wtf is ts

[silver spoke]

I mean not cowards it just doesnt seem like it would be fun

[empty lynx]

ooo thats cool i like it

[compact wasp]

how does that happen?

[compact wasp]

have you learnt how to do it?

[void river]

i was using flukenest as the finisher

[silver spoke]

how to do what?

[empty lynx]

oh it would be more fun than just smacking your nail against the boss hoping it dies soon thats for sure

[compact wasp]

how to use spells properly?

because that is also a skill

[silver spoke]

yes

[void river]

i was using flukenest

[silver spoke]

using spells is easy unless you want to be a sweat and maximize every spell you have

[compact wasp]

well obvious question is obvious, what button do you use to cast?

[tawdry bolt]

nail only is pretty boring tho

[ornate yoke]

Not as stupid i have of absrad where yk the arrow looking thing she shoot in like 3 of her attacks? Theres 2 of them just floating in mid air

Ill see if i can find it

[warm aurora]

I might have a good reply image to that (this was my best but eventually un unsuccesful attempt befire I ever defeated the boss long ago)

[silver spoke]

rmb to heal mouse button 5 for quick cast

[compact wasp]

yeah really boring

its just whacking the boss

with no positioning

[empty lynx]

Lucky sword part 13

[warm aurora]

Battery moment

[void river]

damn everyone has a random image when fighting NKG

[worthy peak]

That like applies to everything no?

[ornate yoke]

Whats lucky sword

[compact wasp]

I think a part of reason why i love doing p5 all bindings is because of spell and nail art usage

[worn hamlet]

I-

nail only requires more position if anything bc u don't have ranged attacks 💀

[empty lynx]

just absrad's random swords that end up in really weird places

[warm aurora]

I did survive this hit, just didnt beat it

[tawdry bolt]

same, there is much more to learn there

[ornate yoke]

Ah ok

[silver spoke]

but spamming ddark requires great positioning I swear my lifespan could be over bytime those iframes are over

[compact wasp]

ye my english not englishing properly. I was referring to maximizing damage

[worn hamlet]

also why're we talking abt which is more fun in a single player game isn't the whole point of a game to have fun individually

[ornate yoke]

I had 2 just floating

It was kinda funny

[worn hamlet]

ah mb

[void river]

well uh i never fought absrad heh

[worn hamlet]

but also like this

[warm aurora]

Directional shriek is very fun to use

[ornate yoke]

Imagine not having 112

[worn hamlet]

honestly I always forget which direction shriek does what

[warm aurora]

I just once complained I found I barely used shrieks and someone explained directional shrieks

[void river]

another random image

[worn hamlet]

was it left sucks in and right pushes away or the other way around?

[empty lynx]

mostly because someone started it with saying "fuck you and fuck spells you guys are so boring i hate you fucking die twins"

[warm aurora]

Right goes inwards

[empty lynx]

opposite

[worn hamlet]

oh dang

[worn hamlet]

argh

[warm aurora]

You just have to use it anough to get used to it

You mostly want to use right

[worn hamlet]

tru tru

[empty lynx]

its ok i used to struggle with it too

[compact wasp]

oh absolutely. I just find it fun whenever I get to find a player in the wild who actually believes spell is cheating. Not saying nathan is one of those people, but holy hell talking to those people is a kind of headache that makes me realize what kind of players exist in this world

[warm aurora]

I have not found any good left shriek usage yet

[worn hamlet]

hm I wonder should I go back to trying to beat p3ab

haven't done attempts on that in awhile

[empty lynx]

only if hi*e knight isnt being a prick

[tawdry bolt]

I wonder why team cherry added this shitty mechanic to shriek

[zinc iris]

I shd sleep
Gn guys

[compact wasp]

you ain't worried about collector?

[worn hamlet]

nah it was mainly flukemarm that was being annoying

[warm aurora]

Gn

[worn hamlet]

the strat was easy to figure out, but it's just difficult to execute correctly

[void river]

hive knight is such a bad boss imo

[tropic nest]

Hive knight is far scarier than collector

[silver spoke]

Yeah I dont think it's cheating it just has certain times where I believe it should be used

[empty lynx]

i'd be more annoyed about the freaking bee staying alive for too long

[worn hamlet]

nah collector is easy

[compact wasp]

weird. I find hive knight pretty easy to deal with

[worn hamlet]

collector just becomes hell when you do 04r I've heard

[compact wasp]

he is one of my most consistent fights

[tropic nest]

Same reason p1 resets happen

[worthy peak]

I love being reckless and using cyclone + wraiths on markoth

so silly

[empty lynx]

also p3ab collector is like pretty free with cyclone slashes

[warm aurora]

I wouldnt think that and it seems a nicety that hes first

[compact wasp]

oh ye I forgot p3ab collector was a pushover