hk-discussion

[worthy peak]

haters, smh

[zinc iris]

So is crowns anything

Autocorrect smh

[worthy peak]

charmless radiant old white nail spells :D

[agile pewter]

ew.

[honest shale]

you arent wrong but let me have this

please

[ebon depot]

crono is fine

[zinc iris]

Yeah I meant that's a terrible idea

[ebon depot]

its a pretty good stepping stone into harder pv challenges since its the first one thats actually pretty long

[zinc iris]

Cool p6 video is inferno king Grimm a separate mod from absolute

[shrewd nymph]

No

Aikg is ikg with a 'hard mode' setting enabled in the mod

but lwk not very descriptive

[solar rover]

p5 after some practice runs

[honest shale]

holy shit i actually hit it

[shrewd nymph]

and imo aikg is a pretty good modded bosses that isnt difficulty slop

unfortunately puffer sucks

[honest shale]

like second try after turning on the recording

cronws not crono

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[zinc iris]

When u coming back to hk

[honest shale]

cant wait to watch this clear and realise smth fucked up with the audio so i cant upload it anyways

[zinc iris]

The people need general pv tips

[shrewd nymph]

Guh

im mildly tempted to do rad anyrad

dont tempt me any more

[worthy peak]

do it

[shrewd nymph]

Why does audio matter

[zinc iris]

Thought u hated her

[shrewd nymph]

The people aint getting NO pv tips

[zinc iris]

Like the other pros

[shrewd nymph]

Thats just following the agenda

but i mean the fight is ass

[honest shale]

bcs i im lazy

[shrewd nymph]

And people playing it purely for the achievement is also ass

[honest shale]

also it did fuck up
i called it

[shrewd nymph]

but its mildly enjoyable and i dont think radiant would be that bad

[unborn holly]

what fight?

[shrewd nymph]

Anyrad

[worthy peak]

the awesome anyrad fight :D

[zinc iris]

Well nonsenf did it for 6 hrs once

[shrewd nymph]

Hes done radiant?

[zinc iris]

Tough to see

No

[shrewd nymph]

oh

[agile pewter]

no it's the same mod

[empty lynx]

come on grey

say it

you know you want to

[shrewd nymph]

i mean i could definitely be underestimating the difficulty

but like from what i know, it wont be too bad

[worthy peak]

I don't htink you are underestimating it...

[unborn holly]

anyrad isnt that bad I actually like it

[shrewd nymph]

probably not but id rather overestimate than underestimate it

@zinc iris u should do aikg

[worthy peak]

huh... id never thought of it that way...

[zinc iris]

Sure bud

[unborn holly]

any tips for playing one-handed? I cant pogo or dash left

[shrewd nymph]

Get acrylic nails

more keys accessible

[honest shale]

take your other hand
and use that as well

[zinc iris]

Is this a challenge

[unborn holly]

great tip

[zinc iris]

Or like a disability

[unborn holly]

yes

[unborn holly]

one-handed anyrad

[shrewd nymph]

It would just come down to optimal binds

unfortunately i dont know what they are

[agile pewter]

i think you ask shrubb

[unborn holly]

I feel like my keybinds are the most optimal but its still very weird

[worthy peak]

why cant you pogo or left dash?

What binds leads to that.

[unborn holly]

Its too much for my brain

[foggy sable]

Seems annoying and rng

[unborn holly]

I jump w and pogo s so like I cant do both and this makes it hard

[shrewd nymph]

All you need is one fluke tho

• cfm cop out

[foggy sable]

Seems annoying though

[shrewd nymph]

probably is

[foggy sable]

Not fun in any way

[shrewd nymph]

Which is why i probably wont try it

[honest shale]

”seems annoying and rng”
“all you need is rng”

[shrewd nymph]

yup

works both ways

[worthy peak]

Okie... the binds i would imagine is wasd for directions , f for dash, e for nail , q for quiccast, r for focus.and space for jump, shift for cdash

[zinc iris]

Which boss wud y'all say is the most rng

No mods

[worthy peak]

marmu .

[zinc iris]

[empty lynx]

full gear?

[zinc iris]

Yeah

[empty lynx]

idk man

i was gonna say marmu but shes very consistent in p5

only absrad comes to mind and it's mostly because of platforms phase teleports

otherwise she's alright

[sick heath]

If you can kill her under 10 second its consistent

[empty lynx]

which you can in p5 and overworld but not really in hall of gods

[unborn holly]

my binds are a bit diffrent

[worthy peak]

my binds are superior to all others! there only weakness is i cant slash up and move right at same time

also my keyboard wouldnt cope with wasd for mmovement

[zinc iris]

I also use arrow keys

Ye I was like I've seen this thumbnail before

[worthy peak]

My keyboard would also not cope with that :D

[shrewd nymph]

Arrow keys

[solar rover]

how do you do asscended markoth right?

[zinc iris]

Then what do u use

[shrewd nymph]

Nail arts phase 1, shade soul phase 2

[worthy peak]

cyclone dash slash.

[worthy peak]

controller cause my keyboardd borke

[zinc iris]

This strat is for ||hall of gods but you can use it for the pantheon as well. Just don't use the charms I recommended below.

Use nailarts. Pretty much every one of your attacks should be either a great slash (if markoth is close) or a dash slash (if markoth is further away and you have space).
Don't chase markoth around. Stay on the platform of your choice and always have a nailart charged. You can play a little more aggressively and try going towards him getting a hit in if you feel comfortable but generally try to stay on your platform.
When markoth comes close it's time to deal damage. Use great slash to keep him at a distance. The knockback will help keep him away while the range is big enough to hit through his shield and stay safe.
Eventually markoth will move away or, if he comes too close, you'll have to move to a different platform.
Save your soul throughout the whole first phase for the second one. Then, once that starts, wait for the right opportunity to use all of it for shade soul. Trying to get as many double hits as possible, it is important that he is not right up against a platform or the wall. Usually a good moment is when he is spinning his shield around.
If he is still alive after you have used all your soul, finish him off with nailarts just like in the first phase.
Note that for the entire fight the right wall is a lot safer than the left one since no swords can spawn off screen to the right there.
For charms I recommend

• for ascended: shaman stone, nailmaster's glory, spell twister, soul eater, grubsong
• for radiant: shaman stone, nailmaster's glory, spell twister, soul catcher, heavy blow, soul eater||

[storm flax]

herb this is hkdisc smh

[lapis musk]

who wrote this

[zinc iris]

Nonsenf

[ebon depot]

nice run

[solar rover]

did you had this on standby or something?

[zinc iris]

Ehh lot of people ask in help chats

And that's very well written

So I just paste it

[honest shale]

now i have to reupload bcs yt wont let me change the thumbnail

[zinc iris]

Why

[honest shale]

bcs fuck me ig

[sick heath]

Yt just keeps getting worse and worse

[zinc iris]

U shd be able to change it

Many do

[honest shale]

i should

the button just doesnt fucking work

[zinc iris]

[solar rover]

dang it

dang it

[honest shale]

time to upload a third time bcs i selected the wrong thumbnail again

[solar rover]

aaaaaaa

[trail jackal]

i told my friends who have never played hollow knight to watch PoP and they just said "its just parkour"

[honest shale]

i mean it is

[frozen storm]

YouTube being YouTube

[worthy peak]

truth

[trail jackal]

tru

[noble ruin]

Why not just change it after uploading

[trail jackal]

what should i show them that would make them play ngl

[frozen storm]

I dislike the term "parkour" for platforming section

[honest shale]

it wont fucking let me

[solar rover]

markoth!!!!

[worthy peak]

anyrad :D

[foggy sable]

anybad

Honestly though something like sisters of battle or pv

[worthy peak]

hi grey!

[trail jackal]

tru

[frozen storm]

Hmmm

[trail jackal]

imma show mantis lords

[foggy sable]

hiii strawberry

[frozen storm]

Try purity

Or infinity

Those are the most cinematic bosses

Hi grey hi Michael

[trail jackal]

oke

[foggy sable]

hi gui

[honest shale]

the video finally fucking works as intended
https://youtu.be/fENEJc08VWg

[worthy peak]

hru

[worthy peak]

hi

[frozen storm]

Hyd

[solar rover]

markoth is getting combos on me

[frozen storm]

"pain"

[zinc iris]

Depends if they like combat or exploration

Show them some map screenshots and art

[frozen storm]

Where's your creativity non

[foggy sable]

I'm good how are you

[honest shale]

clickbait ofc

[zinc iris]

Hi gui, grey

[frozen storm]

You could've put 2 crowns on both of its horns

[honest shale]

creativity doesnt get views

[frozen storm]

Good to hear, I'm doing good

[zinc iris]

Are u getting views anyway ?

[honest shale]

shhhh

[frozen storm]

You have way less subs than a channel that almost doesn't have videos (mine)

[solar rover]

i am done if i die to markoth in p5 so be it

[honest shale]

unsubbing rn

[foggy sable]

I don't be creative with titles or thumbnails

[frozen storm]

Ok, but I won't unsub

[lapis musk]

you also upload very frequently

[frozen storm]

Mine are just descriptive

[zinc iris]

U upload more for proofs no

[foggy sable]

I'm out of easy challenges so not anymore

[zinc iris]

Or do u like youtube

[lapis musk]

real ones upload to save storage

[frozen storm]

TRUE

[zinc iris]

[foggy sable]

Storage space is the real reason

[frozen storm]

Xbox clips die after a few months

Uploading to YouTube guarantees that I never lose them

[foggy sable]

I need to find more easy but impressive sounding runs

[zinc iris]

I wonder how many years of content are on utube

[frozen storm]

A lot

[zinc iris]

And vids

[frozen storm]

Probably like

I actually have no way to make an estimate

Idk

5 billion videos probably

[honest shale]

r5 but i do it hitless

[zinc iris]

Id assume a few thousand years of content

[frozen storm]

Each video averaging like 5 minutes let's say

25 billion minutes

Divide it by 60

I dislike mental maths

[foggy sable]

I have some r5 runs to do but r5 sucks

[frozen storm]

Ip5ab

[honest shale]

r5 but im not having fun

[foggy sable]

so.. r5

[honest shale]

yes

[foggy sable]

I get bored in runs and start doing silly things anyway

[zinc iris]

416 million hours

[frozen storm]

Hmmm

Divide that by 24

[zinc iris]

Abt 47k years after all of it

[compact wasp]

might be time to try celeste once in a while to cool off then

I can't imagine doing only hollow knight constantly as the one game

[foggy sable]

That is normal r5 mostly though

[zinc iris]

Way larger than i thought

[compact wasp]

i just want you to go back to celeste and try sj lol

[zinc iris]

Maybe some hades challenge

[compact wasp]

I really want to see how far you can go

it has been a while since I have had a friend who does strawberry jam too

[zinc iris]

Or ultrakill but that requires very solid dexterity I feel

[frozen storm]

I mix it up with chess and Minecraft

[zinc iris]

Whats strawberry jam?

[frozen storm]

I love Minecraft

[frozen storm]

Modded map I assume

[solar rover]

i think i am ready for everything except markoth and abs rad

[compact wasp]

maps

[solar rover]

time for another p5

[frozen storm]

Also hi azure

[compact wasp]

like a game within a game

hi hi gui

a mod that is larger than the main game

[frozen storm]

Fan game

Oh terraria calamity but celeste

[compact wasp]

larger

[zinc iris]

Is farewell in Celeste like a secret ending or smthn ?

[compact wasp]

strawberry jam is a mod that has lobbies based an difficulty

[frozen storm]

Larger than calamity?

Damn

[compact wasp]

how big was calamity again?

it has been a while since I have heard that name

[frozen storm]

Big

[compact wasp]

but ye for sj. base celeste has 9 levels in total

and those 9 levels, out of the 9, 8 have 3 variants to them

[frozen storm]

Does it have any new OST

[compact wasp]

so 24+1 which are 25 levels

yes

[zinc iris]

.

[frozen storm]

No

Dlc

[compact wasp]

well farewell is a very large level

its the final level.

a dlc level that comes in the game

[frozen storm]

Free dlc iirc

Just like hk

[zinc iris]

And i assume there's alot of sublevels in that level

[compact wasp]

so strawberry jam is a mod that has multiple lobbies in it

[frozen storm]

Azure you should try Cuphead geo

[compact wasp]

hmm

I might

I will think about it

it was never interesting looking to me for some reason

[frozen storm]

Sort of like "the dropper" from Minecraft

[frozen storm]

It's fun

Goopy took me a long time

Genuinely hard boss

Damage sponge

[agile pewter]

wdym
you can just... change the thumbnail on the existing vid

[compact wasp]

will think about it

rn I am just revisiting celeste

[frozen storm]

Yeah

[compact wasp]

I remember when I tried it as my first platformer tbh

[frozen storm]

Hi Leon

[compact wasp]

I cried so hard when I beat Farewell for the first time

[agile pewter]

[frozen storm]

My first platformer was super Mario world

[frozen storm]

Blep abuse

[agile pewter]

🔫

[compact wasp]

i think celeste was just my first exposure to learning how it feels to get better

[frozen storm]

[compact wasp]

then hollow knight was where I could actually become better

[agile pewter]

💥 🔫

[honest shale]

the button wont work bcs fuck me ig

[agile pewter]

[frozen storm]

[frozen storm]

[honest shale]

🇧🇷🔫

[frozen storm]

[honest shale]

🔫

[frozen storm]

🇦🇺 =

[haughty edge]

[honest shale]

australia = angry

[frozen storm]

Australia = Grimmchild angry

[foggy sable]

I've played some

Everything up to ehs and like half the gm maps

[compact wasp]

damn I still need to do all that

[foggy sable]

I'd be so rusty now

[tulip narwhal]

I love celestew

[compact wasp]

grey do you only play hollow knight nowadays as a game?

[foggy sable]

I play others at times

But only HK as a challenge game

[tulip narwhal]

Hop on solar express ???

[foggy sable]

No

[compact wasp]

ye that makes sense

[honest shale]

celeste is a terrible game play a good game like coconut simulator 2

[solar rover]

the epicest

[tulip narwhal]

Waow

[hot void]

no, play a good game like class of '09

[honest shale]

no clearly mario golf for the virtual boy is peak gaming

[solar rover]

markoth ruined the run and gpz finished it.... i its easy to do gpz but not as much to do him hitless

one final run

[zealous skiff]

@tulip narwhal

[hot void]

markoth can not be that bad

[solar rover]

it was 2 runs 2 markoth

2 times droped to 1 mask for gpz

[hot void]

bro where are the new endigns

i just end up on the same one

[solar rover]

did you get kings soul?

[hot void]

this aint hollow knight lwk

[solar rover]

then take it to abyss?

[solar rover]

what?

what is that

[hot void]

im not talking about hollow knight

class of '09

[solar rover]

class of 09?

[hot void]

i think i have void heart tho thanks for asking

[solar rover]

what is that a visual comic game like dispatch?

[hot void]

visual novel yes

see this is peak game

[solar rover]

lol my first playthrough also ended at 114 hours now i am foing p5 on it so it is ticking

[hot void]

1. that is not my playthrough 2. it ended at 26 hours

[solar rover]

is that the teacher talking to a student?

[hot void]

yea

[solar rover]

then 114hrs?

[solar rover]

pdfile?

[hot void]

radhog, anyrad attempts, p5

[hot void]

yes

[solar rover]

lol

[hot void]

ive also afkd in the save file

[solar rover]

kick his a**

[hot void]

and ive practiced skips

practiced dark rooms

[solar rover]

i get it

[hot void]

top 1 is my first playthrough

i also did p5 in that one

[solar rover]

you are saying you finished the whole game in 5 hours in your first playthrough?

[hot void]

yea and then did p5

[solar rover]

you didnt stop to read a single dialogue, did you?

[hot void]

a sub 5 112 apb requires a tad bit more than that

[solar rover]

but even then 112 in 5 hours in very fast

[hot void]

no no

its a 112apb

so you do zote and p5 too

[mortal lotus]

if you did p5 how many tries did it take you?

[hot void]

my 112 time is 3 hrs 52 min

[hot void]

1

[mortal lotus]

holy

[solar rover]

and you are saying you did all of that explored the whole game and found all the secret entries and exits in 5 hours?

[frozen hull]

I glanced at P5 and it told me I did it even though I didn't

[hot void]

yes

[solar rover]

wtf

[lapis musk]

you do realise theyre joking right 😭

[solar rover]

i press the skeptic button

[mortal lotus]

I did p5 in like 13 attempts or smth

[solar rover]

ofcourse i do but still

[mortal lotus]

I hate gpz

[hot void]

no bro i did sub 5 112apb first run

[lapis musk]

yup ofc

[hot void]

its not even that hard i just skipped dialogue like he said

[lapis musk]

ok the joke gets less funny if you drag it

[mortal lotus]

scroll up to the ss

[hot void]

okay my first playthrough ended at 70 hrs on the way to monomon cus i died twice with 2k geo after only following guides the entire game cus i was 9 years old

[lapis musk]

unlucky

[solar rover]

its not that hard if not doing in steel soul but to do it first try... what other games do you play?

[hot void]

dude

DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW HARD A SUB 5 112APB IS

like its not that hard but its harder than p5

[solar rover]

apb is another matter 3 hours 112% i am asking about

[hot void]

3 hrs 112 is a sub 4 112apb

which is really fucking hard

[solar rover]

that checks out but still its impressive you can do 5 hours 112% apb

[hot void]

its literally not

you could do it in like 3 runs without practicing

[foggy sable]

I'm so confused about this conversation

[solar rover]

my fastest beating the game is 2 hours 48 minutes to beat thk

[hot void]

like its not hard if you can do p5

[solar rover]

yeah not buying that

[hot void]

at 2 hr 48 i think im on the way to collector

[mortal lotus]

you don't need to do p5 for 112%

you only need the others

[hot void]

112 apb

[mortal lotus]

oh

[worthy peak]

oesnt apb mean all pantheon bindings... like just p5 isnt enough...

[hot void]

no?

[lapis musk]

bosses not bindings

[hot void]

all pantheon bosses

[worthy peak]

ohhh

okie

thanks

[tulip narwhal]

@zealous skiff

[prisma cradle]

Radiance

[hot void]

why would anyone do a ab p5 at the end of a 4h run

[solar rover]

you are saying you beat 112 in under 4 hours

[hot void]

well if ir emove the time getting zote its around 3 hr 52 min

[zealous skiff]

guessrgeo?

[keen saffron]

100% took me around idk 10 hours?

[solar rover]

dude the wr is 2:49 and you are saying its not impressive

[hot void]

the wr for apb is 2:49

my run was a 4:51

wr is almost half of my run

[keen saffron]

why do you always say that certain achievements are not that impressive

i'm curious

[hot void]

because a sub 5 is easy

anyone can do it with minimal practice

[keen saffron]

why do you have to constantly point that out tho

[mortal lotus]

wait are you talking about sub 5 apb with 112% or no

[hot void]

112

112 apb sub 5

[solar rover]

yeah tell that to my 16 dead steel soul files

[hot void]

my steel soul has really bad time

cus i didnt use route but wtv

[mortal lotus]

that's still better than most people

[hot void]

ima do another steel soul 112 this weekend ngl seems fun

[worthy peak]

idea They should add an extra boss at the end of p5ab... like with fwg room :D

[solar rover]

dude those 16 dead files are for any%

[hot void]

ive died once doing 100% steel soul and that was in glowing womb

[hot void]

ive deleted 3 112 steel souls lmk

[zinc iris]

I wonder if I can get 100% steel soul achievement in 5 hrs

[sudden osprey]

That’s… actually rather solid considering you did all of godhome in that
Is this a hidden flex

[hot void]

that is free

like its genuinely so much easier than you think

[solar rover]

glowing womb

the easiest arena in the game

[hot void]

if youve 112d the game once you can do a sub 10 112

[zinc iris]

Uhh idk any skips or optimal routes

[worthy peak]

I ddont think i could

[hot void]

i did a sub 11 112 steel soul after not playing for 2 years going fully from memory

[solar rover]

its nor as easy as chicken says but if you can do it if you are decent at pantheons

[zinc iris]

I'll prob just play normally
And skip long fights like colo 3 and dream bosses

And p3 and p4

[hot void]

skip grimm

and joni blessing

[mortal lotus]

is colo counted in 112%

[hot void]

yes

[zinc iris]

Yes

[mortal lotus]

ok

[lapis musk]

4%

well directly 3

indirectly 5

[hot void]

hm?

oh

nail upg

[lapis musk]

pale ore oblobbles

[zinc iris]

Zote I assume

[keen saffron]

i gotta practice skips if i want to properly speedrun hk

[zinc iris]

His questline

[hot void]

no

[mortal lotus]

I wanna try steel soul but I'm gonna die to like some stupid mob in deepnest

[hot void]

you dont need any skips

or

fireball

but thats so ez

[worthy peak]

why blessing?

[keen saffron]

mhm

[hot void]

and vengefly pogo to get soulv essel but thats ez cus base nail + wings

[zinc iris]

Wonder what 12% I'll skip

I'm thinking colo 3
Last mask
Elegy

Kingsoul

P4 and p3

[mortal lotus]

p3 was only hard for me because of sly

he is like my top 5 for hardest bosses

[zinc iris]

P3 isn't hard for me now just will take time if I wanna do 100 in 5 hrs

[noble ruin]

Damn

[keen saffron]

fun fact i beat him first try, blind

idk how to this day

[noble ruin]

I never found sly that hard compared to other bosses

[mortal lotus]

oh...

I did because I didn't know his attacks

[zinc iris]

If no time was there id do p1-4 cuz can't die

[mortal lotus]

but now I can do him like 2 hit

[worthy peak]

I would beg to differ...

Theres a reason i ddo squit skip every time

[frozen hull]

@worthy peak @zinc iris @noble ruin

[worthy peak]

hiiiiii

[hot void]

skip colo 3, 1 nail upg, 1 mask, pure nail, eledgy, grimm, nkg/banish, all pantheon related shit

[noble ruin]

Hai gay

[zinc iris]

@frozen hull

[hot void]

fireball is genuinely so easy

[tulip narwhal]

I actually cant today sry

[frozen hull]

Herb the true based one

@tulip narwhal

[tulip narwhal]

Jane chud

[keen saffron]

can you show it

[mortal lotus]

in steel soul does dieing in pantheons count as it being over

[keen saffron]

queens station skip

[hot void]

one sec lemme launch

[hot void]

why the fuck

no run uses that

[keen saffron]

can you do it

[hot void]

you get mothwing cloak then quit out to tp straight otm ound

[zinc iris]

No

[hot void]

i can try

[noble ruin]

That's a slur floggy

[mortal lotus]

ok thanks

[tulip narwhal]

Oh ok mb

[hot void]

lemme js fly there

[noble ruin]

Chud

[worthy peak]

guh you only reasonably get one chance and i think its one of the harder skips i perform... like there are so many easier skips

[hot void]

its so consistent

[noble ruin]

I'm sorry floggy that was mean

[noble ruin]

What's your top 5 btw

[keen saffron]

in the weekend i'm going to attempt another path of pain speedrun

[worthy peak]

not for me. for me its less consistent than
egg pogo, peaks pale ore skip, blss, ismas skip, bv shade skip. etcetera. Honestly dont know many skips

[keen saffron]

to beat my pb of 5:32 minutes

[mortal lotus]

1 would prob be abs rad or pure vessel

[zinc iris]

Idk any skip

Except like wk skip

[worthy peak]

oh wingless hornet two and fog canyon access.

[mortal lotus]

2 would be markoth in p5

[zinc iris]

And some simple ones in white palace

[keen saffron]

for me top 1 is abs rad

[worthy peak]

and the alternative skips for the fireball skips

[mortal lotus]

gpz cooked me in p5 for some reason

[hot void]

you basically just

[keen saffron]

okay but you're just using infinite soul for that

[worthy peak]

of course im so silly.

[keen saffron]

now imagine a regular playthrough

can i see that

[sweet blaze]

Wish me luck for performance imo

[worthy peak]

I just need to enable cheats smh

[zinc iris]

Gl Fiablo

[mortal lotus]

oh wait why didn't I think of that lowkey

[sweet blaze]

Ty herb

[worthy peak]

good luck

[zinc iris]

Fireball skip looks easy but I've never been able to pull it off

[sweet blaze]

Ty strawb

[mortal lotus]

I never did any skip

[worthy peak]

Are you doing two or 3 fireball version?

[mortal lotus]

I always sucked

[sweet blaze]

3 fireball??

[worthy peak]

i find three is significantly easier (though still stupidly inconsistent for me)

[zinc iris]

2

[sweet blaze]

You can technically manage it with just one as well

[worthy peak]

i would definitely suggest taking the like half second timeloss so you can have 3 casts.

[zinc iris]

Did u get balatro btw

[keen saffron]

peak game

[worthy peak]

I slowed game to 0.1 speed and couldnt get it :(

[hot void]

ok wait canyon skip

[hot void]

this all you do

you just gotta time the fireballs

also if you mess it up you gotta hit some wall i forgot which to fix the jump frames

[worthy peak]

oh wingless stag frag is also easier than fireball skips (the incredibly slow 3 vengefly version) although its not more consistent

[worthy peak]

huh???

[hot void]

yea

like

either re enter room

or hit some wall

[worthy peak]

why do they need fixing?

and what is needing fixing...

[hot void]

like

you can jump later

if you fail the skip the edge gets weird so you cant jump as late

[worthy peak]

guh

where do you even find this stuff out

[zinc iris]

Does the games timer move if u pause

[zinc iris]

Speedrunning server prob

[hot void]

yes thats why you use a speedrun timer

[zinc iris]

No like say I pause the game to do smthn else will it still keep adding time

[hot void]

yea i cant

[hot void]

yes

[zinc iris]

[hot void]

fuck this shit

[noble ruin]

I remember doing this skip it fucking sucks

[tacit spear]

Hi ^_^

It looked like you were pretty close with the one try ^_^

[copper hull]

ur too happy for a hk player

its sus

(im joking btw)

[tacit spear]

I probably am...

I've been failing to beat collector for a while...

[zinc iris]

Hi opal

[tacit spear]

Who knew collector was a hard boss >_<

[tacit spear]

Hi herb ^_^

How have you been?

[zinc iris]

Are u doing a low gear challenges or smthn

[gleaming current]

What is quirrel doing over there btw

[zinc iris]

Bored will work on charmless p5 soon though

Hbu

[foggy sable]

gl charmless p5

[tacit spear]

I'm doing pretty good ^_^

[tacit spear]

Good luck ^_^

[tacit spear]

Hi greyfire ^_^

[foggy sable]

hiii opal

[tacit spear]

Also I will probably beat collector low gear this weekend ^_^

[solar rover]

not fucking again

markoth and gpz....

[tacit spear]

You died?

[solar rover]

i am gonna practice gpc

gpz

[solar rover]

p5

[zinc iris]

How low

[solar rover]

markoth is the issue

[tacit spear]

Very low...

[gleaming current]

So markoth is getting you down to low masks which is then finished by gpz SMTH like that ???

[zinc iris]

Old nail ws?

[solar rover]

yeap

[tacit spear]

It's not rando but no anything other than white spells ^_^

[gleaming current]

Btw which one should I do first ? Trial 3 or P4 ?

[solar rover]

i am getting like 1 to 4 masks on markoth and gpz finishes me off

[tacit spear]

No charms, narts, etc...

[solar rover]

i can solve ths by doing gpz hitless

[zinc iris]

Rip

[tacit spear]

It's really fun to do ^_^

[zinc iris]

Hope u have 9 masks

[gleaming current]

Thank god I didn't do gpz in dirtmouth

[solar rover]

i have golden zote

[tacit spear]

Are you getting hit by the minions or zote himself?

[gleaming current]

.

[solar rover]

zote sometimes bomb

[tacit spear]

Trial 3 ^_^

Ah ^_^

[gleaming current]

I am good at doing bosses instead of killing 69 primal aspids while clinging to a wall cuz there's spikes on the floor

That part makes t3 annoying for me

[solar rover]

did it in less than 2 hits... gpz in godhome

[gleaming current]

W

[tacit spear]

Try using great slash ^_^

For primal aspids ^_^

They die as they spawn ^_^

Spells are good for one's that you miss ^_^

[gleaming current]

The issue is I have the mobile port and here doing great slash while sticking to a wall or platforming is near to impossible

[gleaming current]

I use spells

[empty lynx]

you can practice soul tyrant to get to markoth with full soul and almost full hp
and you can also get better on gpz to deal with him in worse states
However i'd say you still need an idea of what to do against markoth

[solar rover]

i get to markoth with full souls and masks

[empty lynx]

and how do you deal with the fight?

[solar rover]

i can do gpz with lo hp just not hitless for now

[tacit spear]

I only did colo 2 on mobile...

[gleaming current]

On kirks flame I am banned

[gleaming current]

I see

[empty lynx]

youre right here bro

[solar rover]

first phase nail art 2nd phase have too many things so i damage tank kill it with shreaks

markoth

[empty lynx]

It's better to use shade soul with shamman stone for phase 2 tbh

[tacit spear]

I would say try balancing your soul more for the heal less phase...

[tacit spear]

Unless you are dying before it.

[empty lynx]

you can use it almost anywhere so long as he isn't against a wall (double hits)

and his hp in phase 2 is not that high anyway

so like 4 shade souls can get the job done (all double hits)

[zealous skiff]

np

[solar rover]

i am just bad with arial i cant doge his double nails in phase 2 for much time

[tacit spear]

Hi chomp ^_^

[solar rover]

stopping for now tommorow i can get it ik

[noble ruin]

That's why you wanna nuke him

[solar rover]

i dont have issues with any of the last bosses just markoth

[remote elbow]

Brooo I swear to god nkg is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in any video game he's redicoulusly hard its insane he's so hard that I'd rank him a 10 the 2nd hardest boss I did (tl) at like 4 and the rest at like 2

[solar rover]

and abs rad i havent met her yet

[empty lynx]

Shade soul is mostly just to end the fight faster by not having to wait for him to fly above you
I can try to give some more advice on markoth if you'd like

[worthy peak]

guh

[remote elbow]

It will take a miracle I'd I ever defeat him

[worthy peak]

13 health left o r04 obblobles

[solar rover]

nah its fine

[worthy peak]

no idea how i managed that

[noble ruin]

Wait till pv and absrad

[empty lynx]

ew

[umbral night]

How many attempts

[remote elbow]

Pure vessel? Nah I bets it's slightly easier

[worthy peak]

its been so long since i did anything r04 and on first try almost randomally did it first try

[remote elbow]

Like 20 days or so and nesrly 100 I'd estimate

[noble ruin]

I beat nkg in like 3 attempts

Pv took me a while

[remote elbow]

You cheated

[noble ruin]

Surely

[remote elbow]

There is no way in hell you beat nkg in 3 attemps

[noble ruin]

I banished on my first playthrough

[solar rover]

pv feels easier if you fight him after NKG because you are used to fast bosses at that time

[remote elbow]

There isint any way the only way is cheating or that you are the luckiest person alive

[noble ruin]

So my first encounter was in pantheon 5

[remote elbow]

Yes

[tawny lion]

70 btw

[remote elbow]

And no healing

[solar rover]

it took me slithly more attempts

[noble ruin]

Buddy nkg is NOT that hard

[tawny lion]

PV is so easy brooo easiest boss

[remote elbow]

HE IS

[noble ruin]

Not to the point of it being impossible to do him in 3

[tawny lion]

Nkg is always harder than PV

[empty lynx]

sorry he really isn't that hard

[umbral night]

100 attempts over 20 days is a bit low
It's like 5 attempts per day
Your muscle memory is unable to catch up is what i think
As soon as you figure something out, if you end the attempts it won't work

[remote elbow]

Hes very fast you can barely heal and he does double

[noble ruin]

Nkg is far far more consistent than pv

[empty lynx]

you can heal 3 times when he staggers

[zinc iris]

U can heal in every attack

[solar rover]

137 attempts to beat NKG

[noble ruin]

I beat nkg after pv he was easy in comparison

[jaunty jolt]

i haven't beaten nkg yet.(More than 20 tries)

[remote elbow]

Well I don't play much hk now

[zealous skiff]

hi opal

[remote elbow]

I play like 20min max

[umbral night]

Well there's the issue clearly

[remote elbow]

Maybe that explains it

[noble ruin]

Nkg also has basically the exact same Moveset as Grimm I didn't have to learn new responses to attacks I just had to be faster

[umbral night]

Yes
This is also true

[noble ruin]

And I fought Grimm a lot since i found him hard in base game and then I fought him in p3 and p5 before nkg

[zinc iris]

https://youtu.be/vk3x0KBl5V4?si=_6tYJpUcA-g0e8aR

[remote elbow]

I KNOW THE GEALING OPPERTUNITIES THERES 1

[tawny lion]

Its impossible to heal in PV staggers

[noble ruin]

There's 2

Well more probably

[empty lynx]

there's quite alot

[noble ruin]

But 2 easy ones

[empty lynx]

especially with quick focus

[noble ruin]

Especially with unn as well

[worthy peak]

on every attack noless

[umbral night]

I only heal when he staggers into bats
Or I don't heal
One of those

[remote elbow]

No

[remote elbow]

How don't you heal?

[zinc iris]

No

[umbral night]

Don't need to sometimes

[zinc iris]

Every attack

[worthy peak]

which attack isnt there

[empty lynx]

by dodging
the thing about nkg is that all of his attacks are consistent, you just need to know which one he's about to pull of and react

[noble ruin]

Huh interesting I always found spike pillars to be easiest in turns of proper attacks he does

[empty lynx]

i don't mean to sound like a tryhard in anyway iam being serious

[zinc iris]

Yes watch the vid i sent

[noble ruin]

Yeah nkg is veryyyyy consistent it's why he's one of the easiest radiant bosses and why a lot of very experienced players find him boring

[zinc iris]

It's not my vid but ye I also find cloak spikes pretty easy compared to other windows

[empty lynx]

yea i'd say the dash one is just not worth learning

[noble ruin]

Yeah ik the person who made it

[empty lynx]

oh wait it's nonsenf

whoever that is

[noble ruin]

If you're at that skill level you do not need to heal that frequently

[zinc iris]

The help goat

[noble ruin]

@split zenith hai I'm you're biggest fan

[keen saffron]

perhaps the dumbest choice i made is switch to keyboard and mouse for radiant absrad

because now i have to rewire my muscle memory

[noble ruin]

Do you use mouse

[keen saffron]

yea

[empty lynx]

Possibly considering that's probably only good for speedkills

[noble ruin]

The world's BESTEST absrad player uses mouse so surely it's a good idea

[umbral night]

Bottom line is if you can dodge him you can kill him
But I'll be surprised if he manages that with 20 mins of playtime
The fingers would need 15 mins js to warm up, and the timeloss with resetting everytime

[noble ruin]

It's used for instawings in general

[keen saffron]

idk for now i'm taking a break

[willow spindle]

i can do both now because i switched from console

[empty lynx]

whats instawings

[keen saffron]

if i do manage to reach her final phase, i screw up the climb

[willow spindle]

but im more consistent with controller

[remote elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[zinc iris]

Who teano?

[empty lynx]

genuinely was and sometimes still is the hardest part about radiant was for me

[noble ruin]

Uhhhhhh fuckin uhhhhhhh I'm bad at explaining it's a kinda glitch you can do that makes wings activate like faster without the delay

[keen saffron]

should i give up on radiant absrad

[empty lynx]

iam serious

[noble ruin]

No I think shrubb is better

[umbral night]

Can you do it
I need advice on doing it

[remote elbow]

So am i

[zinc iris]

[empty lynx]

you could leave it and do more fun challenges

[noble ruin]

Nope

There's videos on it though

[remote elbow]

UNFORTUNATELY I TAKE DAMAGE MAKING NKG IMPOSSIBLE

[umbral night]

Really?

[noble ruin]

Yeah

[empty lynx]

try to minimize the damage you take atleast

[noble ruin]

(idk I'm just guessing)

[remote elbow]

I take 4 masks to 6 masks

[umbral night]

Yea

[noble ruin]

If you go in the hollow knight speedrunning server I'm sure they'll have a guide or an explanation

It's used in a few categories

[empty lynx]

well iam assuming you only have like 20 minutes on the guy so iam not surprised

it's fine just don't overcomplicate it

[keen saffron]

no. i'm not a coward.

[silver spoke]

nkg was the first boss I radianted might be in the easier half of the bosses

[keen saffron]

giving up is for losers..... right....

[umbral night]

I asked for a document once
Didn't get a reply
I should've asked for an explanation video maybe

[empty lynx]

can you do rabononnanma gpz atleast :<

[remote elbow]

I yhink ill have to be in a perfect environment to fight him as in only fighting when I have my switch plugged into my monitor and not fighting him when I have it in handheld mode

[keen saffron]

tf does that mean

[remote elbow]

5h

[keen saffron]

i don't know any of these acronyms

[noble ruin]

Afaik (I may be very wrong), you just press jump twice within a very short period

[shrewd nymph]

radiant all bindings old nail only no nail arts no movement abilities

aka riab

[empty lynx]

good job lune

you get a gold star

[noble ruin]

The explanations I've heard are using two thumbs to press space for jump or using mouse

[shrewd nymph]

who is this

you sound like luri

[empty lynx]

Daniel gabriel Fahrenheit

[umbral night]

Ohhh
Thanks

[shrewd nymph]

buh

[noble ruin]

I use jump for space btw and Ive only ever done it accidentally Soo idk

[shrewd nymph]

jump on m2 is evil

anyrad propaganda

[empty lynx]

well now iam a little surprised

[remote elbow]

I've spend nearly 20% of my playthrough wich is like 3months on nkg

Or something idk

[umbral night]

Lune any help with instawings?
I use a single button

[silver spoke]

bro use kbm

[shrewd nymph]

nah sorry, i cant do them myself

[silver spoke]

switch is garbage

[remote elbow]

?

[shrewd nymph]

never had a reason to learn

[umbral night]

Hmm

Np
Thnx

[silver spoke]

also what is your charm build

[empty lynx]

Keyboard and mouse

[zinc iris]

Whats insta wings?

[shrewd nymph]

something that just lets you use wings faster

smt smt doesnt have the drop down part

[empty lynx]

"Uhhhhhh fuckin uhhhhhhh I'm bad at explaining it's a kinda glitch you can do that makes wings activate like faster without the delay"- clover

[shrewd nymph]

there is a video i could find if ur interested but its just some animation cancelling shit basically

used in absrad speedrunning

[keen saffron]

i need that.

[remote elbow]

I play on controller

[silver spoke]

spikes are a really easy oppurtunity to heal on nkg

[empty lynx]

no you dont

[remote elbow]

But really really hard to time

[umbral night]

Ohh

[silver spoke]

how

[remote elbow]

Its only possible with tmg

[silver spoke]

it is so easy to time

[remote elbow]

Its quick

[umbral night]

I'd hate to trouble you
I'll figure something out

[remote elbow]

Nk

[umbral night]

Thanks

[remote elbow]

No

[noble ruin]

I'm good at explaining tech I can't do trust

[remote elbow]

I have to position myself to avoid the spikes

[keen saffron]

.

[silver spoke]

yes lmao you have to dodge the attack

[empty lynx]

it is possible but it also depends on when you react to the attack
you can turn the music down slightly if listening to sound cues could help

[silver spoke]

half the time you natrually dodge the attack instantly

[remote elbow]

The music is the best part I aint turning it down if anything jd turn it up

[shrewd nymph]

oops

is this the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3FY5XeqUs

[noble ruin]

Lune don't self promote

[remote elbow]

Also what does key board and mouse change bruh

[empty lynx]

Listen to it in your sleep instead imo

[shrewd nymph]

buh i dont even self promote anymore

[empty lynx]

Good question

[silver spoke]

makes the game fun

[shrewd nymph]

until someone brings up aikg

[empty lynx]

Can you? Could you?

[shrewd nymph]

or n&v

[remote elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[shrewd nymph]

no i dont really have anything that interesting on my yt

[silver spoke]

ok what is your charm build going into this fight

[empty lynx]

thanks python :-)

[noble ruin]

I find it funny how bad the climb is

I mean I assume most of the focus is going into actually performing instawings instead of positioning so fair enough

[shrewd nymph]

hey there was that one section that they locked in and it looked mad impressive

[noble ruin]

I think I'm too used to watching shrubb do climb

That mf just flies

Same with tases

The absrad Tas speedkill climb is so funny it just spam pogos up half climb off of a sword burst shot upwards it's so cool

[empty lynx]

oh yea that's one fucked up climb but then they remembered they are forced to lock in

[agile pewter]

still cant do instas

[noble ruin]

https://youtu.be/40yAxOvEFr4

Look at this goofy climb

[empty lynx]

i just watched the tas why the fuck is that allowed

[noble ruin]

Cause it's funny

[worthy peak]

looks normal

[noble ruin]

It HAS to be human viable surely

[empty lynx]

no as in why is the game just like "sure bro go ahead"

[worthy peak]

surely

[noble ruin]

I mean why not

[empty lynx]

good question not good answers

[keen saffron]

can you do the insta jump with the z key as well

[agile pewter]

[noble ruin]

Uhhhhhh possible probably but way harder

[worthy peak]

cause like they'd have to put in something to specifically stop it and why would they do that

[silver spoke]

idk why you would struggle with nkg what is your charm build

[queen stag]

the hollow knight is hollow because inside its hollow shell is a void and sh

[silver spoke]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/mKNUVo2PBFKxpbpAG?invite=cr-MSxkZGUsNDgxNTQzNjcy

This is me beating nkg

with plenty of healing oppurtunities

(I took damage for dramatic effect)

[worthy peak]

why do oblobbles feel so random...

[silver spoke]

they are but all you have to do to beat them is distribute your damage equally

[empty lynx]

they kind of aren't especially if you are doing r04 it's just the start and when you greed for damage

[naive dew]

@noble ruin

[noble ruin]

Hi floggy

[floral karma]

what about radiant, I can't do it since so long 😭

[worthy peak]

I know the aren't the problem is feel. i think the reason is gravity

[worthy peak]

guh, and give them more time to dsync?

[naive dew]

hiiii hru

[silver spoke]

wdym they are never synced?

[noble ruin]

Idk I'm feeling very horse or something idk what floggy thinks

[worthy peak]

They start synced attacking at the same time

[tulip narwhal]

Yowaddup clover

[worthy peak]

they can dsync i dont really understand what causes it

and if they are dysnced damage is so much ahrder to deal

[silver spoke]

Ithink they are supposed to desync

[worthy peak]

doesnt mean i have to like it

[silver spoke]

just dodge the bullet hell and attack inbetween

[worthy peak]

its not damage based thats for certain

cause sometimes tehy dont dysnc

[empty lynx]

thing is you can control the dsync but it's really hard to do so
And if you do make them dsync you can get stuck in a loop of having to dodge them one by one (which is horrible)

[silver spoke]

ima radiant oobloobles real quick to see what I do

[empty lynx]

he is doing r04 (old nail white spells all bindings) so dsync is like almost inevitable

[silver spoke]

oh

did he say that

[empty lynx]

Other than that obblobles are kinda whatever except for the first time radiant i think

[empty lynx]

he did mention it earlier

[noble ruin]

Hai floggy have fun with assessment

[silver spoke]

yeah im not that good lmao

[empty lynx]

its chill you tried

there was also this really helpful clip grey had if only i can find it

[silver spoke]

ima see if I can do charmless absrad

[tulip narwhal]

Thank you

[silver spoke]

so I can do p5 charmless

[worthy peak]

guh the momentum of cyclone is being so annoying

why am i being abd at it

[visual stirrup]

Hello world

[empty lynx]

hii

[silver spoke]

any charm ideas for charmless p5

[noble ruin]

Void heart

[compact wasp]

glowing womb only p5

[agile pewter]

heavy blow

[silver spoke]

need soul

[foggy sable]

thorns

[silver spoke]

unless I dreamnail LMAO

[agile pewter]

... you still get soul from hitting with nail
wdym lmao

[silver spoke]

oh when you said glowing womb only I was assuming no nail hits

because that deals damage

[agile pewter]

i did not say glowing womb

i said heavy blow

[silver spoke]

mb whoever said glowing womb

[vale condor]

In fairness they didn't reply to you

[agile pewter]

[worthy peak]

baldur shell

[subtle glacier]

i wish python would reply to me

[silver spoke]

I do dreamshiled only p5

[vale condor]

[subtle glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[keen saffron]

i managed to

not hitless but

its alright i guess

[rain canopy]

Guess what, I won

[worthy peak]

@foggy sable do you know how the dsync works

for oblobbles

[foggy sable]

it just happens idk

[merry radish]

Hello

[radiant oak]

Anyone play hk on mobile?

[merry radish]

I'm pretty sure that's impossible unless you want to have viruses on your phone

[shrewd nymph]

Many people do

smt about it being possible with steam too

[naive dew]

hiiiiiiiiii lune

[merry radish]

I'm not familiarised with that so I don't know how that works but if its possible ok

[ebon depot]

there is an actual mobile port yes, the other( actually non piracy ) option is cloud streaming, although at that point youre only really using your phone as display

[vast wadi]

How do I open the lock?

[worthy peak]

Why is enraged oblobble so terrifying... i just panic and refuse to do any actual punishes

:(

[vast wadi]

for call

[worthy peak]

?

[shrewd nymph]

yo

[merry radish]

Wait I just realised Leon was there?

[agile pewter]

nah that was fireb0rn i think

[merry radish]

I just summoned him

[zinc iris]

Send 150 msgs

[radiant oak]

I did play on my phone

[naive dew]

hru

[shrewd nymph]

Im fine, hbu

[naive dew]

im epy

[noble ruin]

Gn melo

[real seal]

Goom morning nerds how's it going

[merry radish]

I'm good

[real seal]

That's good

[agile pewter]

huh

weird

was trying to do a thing

[merry radish]

Kinda funny that when I sumoned Leon I was watching one of his vids

[real seal]

I've seen some of your videos leon

[agile pewter]

[real seal]

You seem like a pretty cool dude

[merry radish]

I watched most of them

[copper spruce]

Perchance

[agile pewter]

oh trust me

stay here long enough and you won't think that anymore

[real seal]

Nice

Great

[merry radish]

Mostly the modded radiance boss ones but I still count it

[real seal]

Bro you should try 540r

[agile pewter]

no

i havent even done r5

[real seal]

Wise choice

[ebon depot]

r5 when leon

[worthy peak]

it amazes me how quickly you can deal damage to oblobbles in r04

[agile pewter]

before 2030

[ebon depot]

[real seal]

[ebon depot]

has anyone here in chat done p05, how hard is it

[merry radish]

I'm pretty sure almost doing any rad hitless is harder than r5 but maybe that's just me

[zealous skiff]

yeah that is just you

[foggy sable]

it is easier than p5ab