hk-discussion

[compact wasp]

i mean grey is an example

[gleaming current]

Yep but both are very good bosses imo

[compact wasp]

looking at her pov literally stunlocked me for the first time

[rustic salmon]

exactly

[naive stone]

The grubs say "Meemawmaw!!!!" when rescued, that means they know about Meemaw's Brisket. Grubfather must be Meemaw and he made the Meemaw's brisket recipe

[compact wasp]

how can someone be on a level where r5 is easy

[gleaming current]

At least fighting a hard boss with a pattern is better than fighting a motherfucker who spams like winged nosk or smth

[rustic salmon]

how ur going at r5 rn, idk if i can manage p5ab before you finish

[fresh isle]

yea

[compact wasp]

I am getting 5 hit pretty consistently and if I can get past marmu then I have a constant shot at r5

[valid pagoda]

Ya np. Other than that for the god tamer fight, I found that ddarks are best if you can get above the beast since he doesnt do jump attacks. Then at that point it's just dodging and getting stray hits

[compact wasp]

eloki can you give me a video with the marmu strat you were talking about?

[gleaming current]

Ye darks are great

[compact wasp]

I kinda need to see it in action

[umbral night]

With this emoji i always think they say meememe

[vale condor]

You would know a lot about that

[rustic salmon]

ye, im sure its gonna happen soon enough, gl

[fresh isle]

lemme find something

[gleaming current]

Marmu must be annoying af in a radiant run ryt ?

[compact wasp]

its hilarious that I have genuinely no issues doing lost kin to absrad hitless

but its just marmu to grimm

[tacit spear]

Do you think that normal r5 would be doable for me if I got another 150 hours of practice towards it?

[tacit spear]

Hi eloki ^_^

[vale condor]

My cheating is legal, John Speedrun.com said it was ok so its not cheating

[rustic salmon]

eh, as you can see its very dependent on the person, and how well you deal with nerves

[compact wasp]

only one way to find out

[valid pagoda]

Speedrun any% but you can use cheats lmao

[rustic salmon]

Genio is insanely good at hk, but it took him until he was at like 800hrs or sum to get r5 done

[compact wasp]

its kinda like how eloki said. Her mental evolved a lot with r5 attempts

you evolved with the attempts

[vale condor]

I've done that a few hundred times probably yeah

[compact wasp]

there is no way to gauge how many attempts it will take because we don't know what it will take for you to become the kind of person who can do r5

[compact wasp]

does that make sense?

[vale condor]

But its ok cause it wasnt r5

[fresh isle]

i cant find a video of it where i actualyl do it correctly LOL

[compact wasp]

sadge

[fresh isle]

https://youtu.be/0fk0TSJekMA?t=708

okay its like this
but ddark in the far corner instead of closer to the middle

way more consistent that way

[vale condor]

Cheating only counts if you are a famous hitless player that actually just used invincibility

[tacit spear]

Yep ^_^

[valid pagoda]

Whats r5? Just another name for pantheon 5?

[tropic nest]

p5 hitless

[fresh isle]

u can see it kind of creates a knockback vacuum between the wall and the ddark and marmu goes all funky because i do it in the wrong spot here

[tacit spear]

Radiant p5 ^_^

[valid pagoda]

Ohhh... a level far above us mere mortals....

[umbral night]

Fireborn cotton video title

[compact wasp]

...how tf am I challenging that level so early dude

[ebon depot]

[fresh isle]

ALSO you dont need to jump for the shrieks theres no point

[vale condor]

It's possible to kill (some) bosses with acid, used sometimes in overworld.
BUT:
While it's technically possible to get a room dupe into p5, I believe there are weird shenanigans that make it not feasible to actually progress through the pantheon? Like I think some rooms breaks or w/e, I dont remember the specifics tho unfortunately

[ebon depot]

Simply get lucky, its actually very simple

[compact wasp]

so literally almost zero nail strikes lol

just shrieks and ddarks in base r5

[fresh isle]

umm so

when marmu teleports, or pauses in the air
you wanna ddark in the corner

and then do mini hops and sideslashes until she pauses/teleports again

the ddarks is so that you can like kind of get a sense of where shes going

[ebon depot]

Marmu is p much about actually engaging with the boss as little as you possibly have to in consistent hitless iirc

[compact wasp]

hmm. Also can I ask a specific question?

[fresh isle]

go ahead

[vale condor]

https://youtu.be/GwBcIVzfBQc?t=1401 an example of some room dupe shenanigans to kill bosses, if you are curious

[compact wasp]

many times when I do a ddark, marmu starts bouncing around literally way too rapidly making dodging just impossible

how do I prevent that?

[fresh isle]

ddark in the corner

[compact wasp]

huh

[gleaming current]

Beat god tamer

[fresh isle]

are u in the corner when u ddark?

[gleaming current]

Finally

[compact wasp]

I think near that

[valid pagoda]

What in the world is happening here........

[compact wasp]

but I will need to consciously check that

[compact wasp]

ye I am near the corner

[fresh isle]

i did it wrong int he video

[compact wasp]

like I do a shriek, and then ddark right where I did the shriek

or should I go even closer to the right corner?

[vernal knot]

Hello everyone

[ebon depot]

Moving thk into fog Canyon is actually hilarious

[tacit spear]

Hi kindly27 ^_^

[umbral night]

Lmao ghost flew up to radiance
That is hilarious

[fresh isle]

yea u have time to walk before the shrieks

[vale condor]

Do you want an actual explanation or is it just a rhetorical question?

[gleaming current]

Ts some sorta speedrun ???

[tacit spear]

Actual explanation please ^_^

[fresh isle]

u can also just hold right the whole time during the shriek shriek ddark thingy so that you inch right as much as possible

which is what i recommend

[umbral night]

No main menu storage glitched true ending speedrun yes

[gleaming current]

I see

[daring junco]

Ok. So I defeated the Traitor Lord earlier today...

[umbral night]

Though I don't know how glitches work

[compact wasp]

I will practice a bit then

[daring junco]

Now I'm having difficulty with the Soul Tyrant🥲🥲

[fresh isle]

the ddarks are pretty consistent, if u show a video of marmu being silly and going everywhere i cna probably help

[gleaming current]

Traitor lord is like shade cloak get 2 hits shade cloak again

[bold turret]

you use map, then you go nyooomm

[umbral night]

End him

[tacit spear]

Second phase or first phase?

[gleaming current]

Dw you will get habituated to his pattern

[fresh isle]

you can also try just upslashing her instead of ddarking at all and doing upslash only after the 2 shrieks but eh
i dont like it personally

[gleaming current]

Soul tyrant is one of those which seem impossible at first but will get extremely ez at a point

[dry creek]

radiant markoth done

[valid pagoda]

Yis pls, I'm like kinda new to modding if that's even one? I only know of rando and room rando but then I see it's a speedrun

[dry creek]

now the only super hard ones are the final pantheon bosses

[daring junco]

First phase (i just started trying)

[dry creek]

actually is galien hard

[umbral night]

Radiant markoth was probably the hardest right

[tacit spear]

Radiant or normal?

[ebon depot]

Ive only ever seen the AG any% strat where you dupe peaks

[dry creek]

radiant

[vernal knot]

Nop

[tacit spear]

Good luck ^_^

[daring junco]

Yeah, i did the non-dream version a couple weeks ago.
I just gotta relearn his patterns🥲 🥲

[gleaming current]

Not that hard in radiant

[fresh isle]

its a glitched speedrun

[gleaming current]

Radiant marmu is harder

[trail rampart]

On radiant galien is hard

[gleaming current]

How do you not get hit by that piece of shit

[dry creek]

eh, id say no eyes made me angrier actually. markoth was harder, but no eyes was more emotionally harrowing

[trail rampart]

Tru

[gleaming current]

Yeah...

[dry creek]

ok good i already did marmu

[trail rampart]

I finally beat nkg
That was fun

[umbral night]

I see
Also nice word choice
I like it

[gleaming current]

The fact that you did radiant markoth is alr good enough for you to do radiant galien

[valid pagoda]

I cant even beat the ascended one cuz the dude bounces everywhere, radiant????
And even crazier to know people just hitless it

[gleaming current]

Frfr

[gleaming current]

Yk I do grimm just to calm myself after losing a pantheon run

[umbral night]

I don't know how i beat the overworld marmu
Cuz i was severly unskilled
I guess he killed me till i learnt

[gleaming current]

Grimm is such a low cortisol fight vro 😭🙏

[dry creek]

cool

[vale condor]

So there are two important glitches at play here:

Dreamgate noclip and Room Dupes

Dreamgate noclip is obtained by interrupting the wake up animation after dreamgating, and it makes you unaffected by gravity, lets you move through walls. There is more to it but this is the very general idea

Room Dupes are a glitch that lets you "overlap" rooms. In particular, you load multiple rooms at the same time. I won't go into specific mechanisms of room dupes for now, but the idea is that we load the room in fog canyon with the charm notch and also have thk loaded. Since there is acid where thk stands, it dies.

Then, we enter radiance. Due to the way room dupes work, we get the fog canyon charm notch room loaded, and radiance arena loaded. So we use the explody jelly to blow up radiance, and then we just need to do nail hits to get radiance to update her phase.

[valid pagoda]

lmao same here, i just kept going at him cuz there's that bench to the right of queen garden

[delicate coral]

P3ab zote help?

[umbral night]

Truth

[gleaming current]

Practice zote

In hog

Try to get hitless

[delicate coral]

have

already

[trail rampart]

Tbh yeah
Nkg is harder but still low cortisol

[delicate coral]

lots

[daring junco]

It's the fake-out which keeps getting me🥲 🥲
The one where he starts the dive, then decides to start it again from a different point🥲 🥲

[gleaming current]

Do a long jump and when he does the second dive make another jump using monarch wings

[delicate coral]

I almost did it on my first time getting past zote but i died to hornet because I suck and now I keep dying to zote

[tacit spear]

Idk if this helps but have you practiced charmless zote?

[dry creek]

alr can someone give me a list from most to least on how hard the final bosses of each pantheon are on radiant

[valid pagoda]

That's freaking wild!! Hly crap, even just the room dupes sound so game breaking lmao

[delicate coral]

yes ive done rad charmless zote on three occasions with counting hits for soul to act as spell binding, and I still suck

[tropic nest]

sheo < o&m < sly < pv < absrad probably

[naive stone]

Always give Millibelle 2600 Geo. She will give you more in return!!!

[gleaming current]

Umm hornet is a pain in the ass in all bindings ngl

[unreal glen]

bro oro and mato all bindings is actually harder than absolute radiance (without bindings) I swear

[umbral night]

Zote does have a pattern, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND, but moves like a complete amateur and I've never seen anything uglier in my life than the movements he does
Like he trips on his own legs lmao

[delicate coral]

Dyk how many staggers she usually takes to kill

[dry creek]

fr? i thought they were much easier

[frozen storm]

I hate obblobles

[tropic nest]

use narts

[delicate coral]

Awesome, now we can both suffer in p3ab

gg

[tacit spear]

I didn't realize that she gave it back when I did my first save >_<

[tacit spear]

Ggg ^_^

[tropic nest]

4, assuming no combos, narts, or spells
3 in practice

[gleaming current]

Idk Abt all bindings cuz everytime I have done her I had unbr strength and qs equipped

[delicate coral]

well i was playing a very turn based conservative hornet so seeing as i was on my fourth stagger i died like 3 seconds before getting to sly

great

[umbral night]

I got spoiled and never gave millibelle my money
But I'm always broke so it didn't matter lol

[vale condor]

Yes, room dupes are pretty damn insane

There are a lot of cool things you can do with them, and other glitches

Probably one of the most insane things that have been done in the glitched world is the jumpless tas, it uses the version older than what we use to speedrun in the modern day (due to many reasons) (tho the version is still useful for quite a few things, just not most popular main categories), but it is AWESOME, highly recommend to watch. I am guessing that even if you don't understand much about glitches, it probably is quite an entertaining experience

https://youtu.be/i8HMufFdh40

[delicate coral]

I gave it to her on purpose

when I needed geo

[umbral night]

Nicee

[valid pagoda]

dudeee saammeee, back then I was always wondering "whys she scared in the hot springs? and why arent you banking anymore" but never thought to hit them

[delicate coral]

cause im sorry who is going into fog canyon, jellyfishland with no map to get some geo

I just carry it w me

[umbral night]

Lol

[frozen storm]

Thanks everyone

[vale condor]

@tacit spear since you also wanted a detailed explanation

[tacit spear]

I meant gg gui not ggg >_<

[gleaming current]

I might be the only person here who never fell for that shit

[delicate coral]

P3ab time? nsok isnt in there so should be alright (trust)

[gleaming current]

I alr knew she was a scam through some reddit post

[frozen storm]

Nsok

[delicate coral]

yea

nsok

[tacit spear]

I read it all... I had known about the dream gate clipping but nothing about the room dupes ^_^

[umbral night]

I saw on some yt video
So i didn't either

[delicate coral]

[frozen storm]

[gleaming current]

W

[vernal knot]

Wsok

[delicate coral]

hey mega

[frozen storm]

Wolingde nsok

[tacit spear]

Kosn

[frozen storm]

Hey mega

[delicate coral]

onblobse

[vernal knot]

Hey

[umbral night]

Snok

[tacit spear]

Osnk

[delicate coral]

lmao

[tacit spear]

Python thank you for the detailed explanation ^_^

[delicate coral]

the thing is I dont understand how you did it 6 times like o and s are on other sides of the keyboard so you must have been hella panicking cause you could have typed it slowly

[tacit spear]

Autocorrect?

[compact wasp]

ye I will consider that too

[naive stone]

IM FUCKING RICH

[compact wasp]

sorry its like nearly 2 am

so my brain is lagging

[delicate coral]

nuh uh

[frozen storm]

P4ab time

[tacit spear]

I had 12k before the colloseum of fools ^_^

[umbral night]

Give me money
Or I'll come for you
Cuz I'm broke in hallownest

[tacit spear]

8k after and I bought a lot of stuff ^_^

[naive stone]

I have nothing left to buy how much you need

[delicate coral]

You're doing them in order its non negotiable

[valid pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-grub-happy-yay-gif-6784678555107711735

[delicate coral]

do p3ab

Smh

[frozen storm]

No

[umbral night]

36k for the unbreakables

[delicate coral]

yes

[valid pagoda]

Aw why gif no work

[umbral night]

I have 1k

[naive stone]

I banished grimm's troupe before I even bought any

[delicate coral]

I think i have like 4k

might as well buy some of tuks eggs to keep her in business ngl

[delicate coral]

oof

[naive stone]

I dont even need any hehehehe

[tacit spear]

I didn't pick up any of the eggs after hitting the bugs that have them...

[delicate coral]

Okay im done

[umbral night]

As an overworld player my poverty is shameful tbh

[honest shale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling

[delicate coral]

p3ab will be attempted again either next weekend or in like a month or smth

Hey non

I suck at hk

[honest shale]

bye

[tacit spear]

Hi nondescript person ^_^

[honest shale]

i have come to clown on one guy without perms and i will now leave

[vernal knot]

What could Nondescript's nickname be

Ion?

I guess I'll go with Ion

[honest shale]

#hk-discussion message

[delicate coral]

Grimmchild

[vernal knot]

Too boring and lame

[tacit spear]

See you later nondescript person... your name is really long >_<

[vernal knot]

And unoriginal

[honest shale]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-gif-20305030

[umbral night]

Ion works

[vernal knot]

Why do you hate being called Grimmchild evn

It is your pfp

[delicate coral]

@frozen storm get him

[honest shale]

i couldnt tell you why

[vernal knot]

You weird Ion

[delicate coral]

wtff

[delicate coral]

Apologies

[tacit spear]

Descript how are you doing today?

[umbral night]

Every new guy in the server calls him grimmchild
Must be annoying to say the least

[vernal knot]

lol

[honest shale]

im done talking to you people

[vernal knot]

Imagine the amount of times a Grimm pfp tries to RP with him

[delicate coral]

non i died to hornet in p3ab after fourth stagger

rp?

[vernal knot]

I understand Ion's pain now

[umbral night]

Fr

[delicate coral]

role play?

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-monkey-disappointed-disappointed-monkey-gif-25631537

[tacit spear]

Does anyone know how many staggers collector has?

[delicate coral]

depends

[tacit spear]

When you are at only base nail...

[frozen storm]

Imagine being 14 years old in this economy

[tacit spear]

(If we don't use spells)

[vernal knot]

Imagine being 16

[frozen storm]

: shrue

[delicate coral]

and this is why you dont say your age ngl

[tacit spear]

Imagine being close to 15...

[vernal knot]

Imagine not being 67

[tacit spear]

Imagine not being 10

[delicate coral]

wouldn't have to imagine

[thorn ruin]

Imagine dragons

[delicate coral]

Non i see you online what are you doing

[frozen storm]

Welcome to the new age

[umbral night]

When i fight him he staggers thrice before dying
But I'm slow with him

[tacit spear]

Do you use narts or spells?

[delicate coral]

I mean p3ab collector is regularly 3 staggers

[gleaming current]

This is unrelated af but mj has 99 million monthly streamers rn

[umbral night]

Nail mostly and the occasional fireball

[tacit spear]

He usually does 4 or 5 before I get him to phase 2...

[gleaming current]

Vro is dominating the industry 17 years after his death

[tacit spear]

I might be off by a stagger or two...

[delicate coral]

4 or 5 before phase 2?

is this base collector

like overworld

[tacit spear]

I think it's 3 before phase 2 ^_^

[tacit spear]

I'm doing overworld ^_^

[umbral night]

It's 2 for me in p3 charm bindings before phase 2

[tacit spear]

I use a lot of white spells...

[gleaming current]

Upgrade them to the dark ones

[tacit spear]

Why?

[delicate coral]

Its between 5 and 6...

[gleaming current]

The dark ones deal far more dmg

[tacit spear]

They make the bosses harder...

[tacit spear]

They do?

[delicate coral]

For first phase

[tacit spear]

I guess I should then...

[delicate coral]

crazy

[gleaming current]

Howling wraiths and abyss shrieks abyss shrieks have far more dmg compared to the howling wraiths

[delicate coral]

Wait did you not know this

opal its an upgrade what else would the point be 😭 😭

[subtle glacier]

they’re throwing for content

[tacit spear]

Huh... usually the wraiths do 2 nail hits if I'm not at the ceiling (I'm using it for aspids).

[tacit spear]

I was joking ^_^

[naive stone]

I have done enough for now.

It is time to fight the hollow knight

[tacit spear]

Escobar I am doing a white spell run ^_^

[delicate coral]

Opal the whole fight is between 10 and 13 staggers nail only

[gleaming current]

Ohhhh I see

[delicate coral]

I thought so

[tacit spear]

Ok ^_^

[delicate coral]

thats pain

[naive stone]

oh wait nvm i still gotta get abyss shriek

[delicate coral]

gl

[tacit spear]

Sorry for confusing you beforehand >_<

[delicate coral]

lol

[gleaming current]

Nah nah np

[delicate coral]

cant believe i got tricked

im so gullible

[tacit spear]

I think I only need luck to play not to beat it >_<

[strong skiff]

Throw123...

[subtle glacier]

@shrewd meadow

hi

[strong skiff]

Reminds me of days when i was better than him at bingy. Pretty good days

[gleaming current]

Y'all know I am one of the best in this game inside my frnd group but this server is making me feel like an absolute noob

[tacit spear]

Hi Roma ^_^

[strong skiff]

👴

[subtle glacier]

throw outpaced both of us

[thorn ruin]

Roma the benchwarp problem was fixed

[tacit spear]

You aren't...

[strong skiff]

And lever methinks

[delicate coral]

i am lol

ah non

[strong skiff]

Yeah gg
You did ping me
I was also subsribed to the thread

[delicate coral]

you've returned

[bold turret]

kinda same, but i also got a friend that's more consistent than me at some stuff

[gleaming current]

Hmm lol

[strong skiff]

As in outpaced us and levi,im pretty sure

[subtle glacier]

oh yeah

[thorn ruin]

Oh yeah

[strong skiff]

Oh yeah

[honest shale]

not even just grimm pfps
ive had a lot of people try to undermine my arguments by calling me a child

[gleaming current]

My ass is so exhausted now that it is taking damage from fucking elder hu now

[delicate coral]

ad hominem smh

[gleaming current]

I should get sm sleep mb

Gn

[delicate coral]

that sucks

[honest shale]

Gn

[vernal knot]

You are a fetus though

[delicate coral]

gn

[umbral night]

Gn

[honest shale]

the issue is the argument undermining

[vernal knot]

Ye

[delicate coral]

how did i not know that foetus is just the british spelling

[tacit spear]

Good night Escobar ^_^

[thorn ruin]

That feels so weird

[delicate coral]

wdym, having the o?

[thorn ruin]

Yes

[delicate coral]

it's like oestrogen vs estrogen

it's annoying tbh

[tacit spear]

In what ways did they use your age against you?

[bold turret]

not having the o feels weird to me

[delicate coral]

like pick a spelling bro

[honest shale]

Can i exist in peace

[umbral night]

Nice comparison lol
On point

[honest shale]

simply ignoring everything i say while calling me a child

[tacit spear]

I can't relate... but that seems like you had a horrible conversation...

[honest shale]

several

[umbral night]

Don't mind
Ignore such people

[delicate coral]

i'd just leave which i assume is what you did

[honest shale]

well when it gets so bad i have to put it in my bio i dont think ignorings gonna do shit

[honest shale]

yes

[spark anvil]

Yall better not underestimate site

Zote*

[toxic pumice]

Does any1 else think hollowknight does the spell to heal thing better than silksong? Like in terms of soul/silk being used for them

[spark anvil]

zote will absolutely obliterate you

[delicate coral]

who is underestimating zote bro

[tacit spear]

I think I would have unlimited bacon... hollowknight is not worth starving for. (I read your status)

[honest shale]

its a reference

[umbral night]

Well it works for me normally
Also i have no idea how speedrunning pv is related

[spark anvil]

They don’t call him Zote the mighty for nothing

Zote scares me

[honest shale]

i didnt intend for it to get answered

[umbral night]

I don't underestimate him
I hate him

[honest shale]

i took it out bcs it did nothing

[subtle glacier]

and what of Theodore Nivision

[umbral night]

I see

[strong skiff]

Chooms can i get a round of geoguessr

[spark anvil]

[subtle glacier]

buh

[spark anvil]

Zote will absolutely cook you bro

[subtle glacier]

i will launch hk

it’ll be a few minutes

[strong skiff]

I might not respond immidiatly but ping
Hell yeah

[umbral night]

No he doesn't need to cook me
His existence is enough of a ragebait

[spark anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-24607778

[honest shale]

who tf is spending money to react with w

[spark anvil]

I fear this man

[delicate coral]

non get him

[honest shale]

well now its not funny anymore

[umbral night]

Lmao

[delicate coral]

[naive stone]

Hollow Knight Ending Completed

Day 3 of playing Hollow Knight: Completed

[tacit spear]

You are barely short of image perms...

[lusty hare]

Hmm silksoung

[umbral night]

Yessir

[lusty hare]

[naive stone]

Day 3 achievements"

[naive stone]

Im not done with Hollow Knight yet!!! There is so much to do

[delicate coral]

you banished the grimm troupe

[umbral night]

Very quick
Good work

[lusty hare]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-dance-hornet-dance-hornet-silksong-gif-3654151901745923854

[honest shale]

silkslop

[delicate coral]

skilkskong

[lusty hare]

Skill isuse

[bold turret]

siksog is peak

[naive stone]

what about godhome??? White Palace???? Queen's Garden??? Failed Champion??? Soul Tyrant??? Collector??? There is so much I have to do yet.

[delicate coral]

yup

[honest shale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling

[delicate coral]

im saying how come you banished them

[lusty hare]

Me no send gifs

[umbral night]

Oh hey this is good

[naive stone]

Im saving the opportunity to fight NKG for a later time

[naive stone]

And also to let zote die the fuck out

[wind garnet]

pure vessel arena

[strong skiff]

||on the way to queens grub||

[umbral night]

||queen's gardens near the lever||

[naive stone]

Im not even halfway done with the achievements

[bold turret]

||after mantis arena||

[honest shale]

how much money is bro gonna spend to l me 😭

[strong skiff]

Choom is the goat i love geoguessr

[naive stone]

Gonna make that 112% later >:)

[bold turret]

the al2ba % one ?

[spark anvil]

Im kinda rich

[umbral night]

Oh nicee

[naive stone]

Wow beautiful new menu theme

[delicate coral]

i see i see

[delicate coral]

this is crazy fast bro

[strong skiff]

-# Seeing 1512 is kinda crazy

[tacit spear]

Gl ^_^

[spark anvil]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[umbral night]

200 hours, i have the same percentage

[lusty hare]

Where can I get a photo roll? @burnt osprey @umbral night @honest shale

[umbral night]

LMAO

[honest shale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-ur-not-him--k01KRVTN5F1HCBEXHTXKVME7Y9N

[naive stone]

Oh shii if i was just 23 minutes quicker I would get the first speedrun achievement

[subtle glacier]

@strong skiff

[tacit spear]

Photo role?

[tacit spear]

300 messages

[lusty hare]

Yeah

[honest shale]

what

[tacit spear]

?tag permspa

[idle belfry]

No tag permspa found.

[tacit spear]

?tag permpsa

[idle belfry]

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[bold turret]

||above the stag in howling place i forgor the name||

[tacit spear]

Read ^_^

[umbral night]

Wow

[tacit spear]

Sorry I was joking >_<

[delicate coral]

animated white check mark is wild

[spark anvil]

[bold turret]

i love that spot, you can wcs from there all across the room in hkmp tag

[delicate coral]

wcs?

[umbral night]

Wall cling storage

[hallow kettle]

Wall crystal shart

[subtle glacier]

you can wcs all the way to dirtmouth elevator with dmaster

[delicate coral]

oh, what's that

[naive stone]

Hollow Knight is such a great game.

[delicate coral]

wait nvm i know

[thorn ruin]

Where is this

[spark anvil]

[umbral night]

Um they do it in any% to speedrun blue lake with infinite aerial dashes mostly
You might have seen in the top any% runs

[bold turret]

yee, that's what i do but i often mess up so i'm too high/ too low so i dont go through the elevator into the transition because i hit the top or am too low

[delicate coral]

yea ive seen it lol idk how it works but i remember what it is

[subtle glacier]

last one

[umbral night]

Yeah
Idk either

[toxic pumice]

I think its kinda crazy on like xbox only 10% of people actually beat the game cus of the achievements

[bold turret]

||left of lake of unn ?||

[strong skiff]

Holy.
||gorb room?
Above stag next||

[strong skiff]

||lake of unn||

[thorn ruin]

I think it’s bc you’re close enough to cling onto the wall but not enough to be physically on the wall

[strong skiff]

Hm

Oh,||hunter?||
❌

[delicate coral]

interesting

[tacit spear]

||Queens garden?||

[strong skiff]

||gr root||

Hell yeah

[honest shale]

love key room?

[tacit spear]

||Where that?||

[vestal sky]

@quartz cave idk how much you fw shoegaze/rock but i am a big fan of https://open.spotify.com/album/5IyHtkKQvafw7bQYFnx4FO

[umbral night]

Wait what's that?

[honest shale]

||greenpath root||

[tacit spear]

Do you mean the room for the grub?

[subtle glacier]

full screenshot

[strong skiff]

Greenpath dream tree
Theres a vessel,geo chest and a grub
Durandas and 3 vines,one lore tablet
Two rooms left of mossy

Nice

[bold turret]

ooooh ok

[thorn ruin]

Oh that place

[strong skiff]

Thanks

[thorn ruin]

After mmc

[umbral night]

Ah
Got it thanks

[honest shale]

i meant the room with the love key in it

[umbral night]

I see

[tacit spear]

Ok ^_^

[strong skiff]

I think left of this would be the lore tablet

[umbral night]

Yes
Then qg

[subtle glacier]

yeah it’s between grub and lore

[bold turret]

you should post an inverted pic at some point to throw people off

[strong skiff]

Thats evil
Would be good on something easier tho

[subtle glacier]

one time someone posted a silksong screenshot from the trailer before it had released and i guessed correctly

i felt so sick

[strong skiff]

I deffinetelly did that but idk if it was you who guessed it then

[thorn ruin]

Daily charm build repost, day 2

[umbral night]

That is so wrong🤣
Meme builds are fire

[delicate coral]

why is fluke in there it's actually useful sometimes

[bold turret]

because of dcrest

[honest shale]

d crest

[delicate coral]

oh i see

[strong skiff]

Lacks spore shroom. Gotta do all the far synergies atp

[delicate coral]

amazing

[thorn ruin]

How long should I do this for

[thorn ruin]

Spore shroom makes it too good

[bold turret]

until sea of sorrow comes out

[delicate coral]

spore shroom deals damage you forgot

[umbral night]

You'll run out at some point
Hk has good charms unfortunately

[delicate coral]

true

[delicate coral]

why not gc

[thorn ruin]

I would do it with a different build every day but I’ll run out of builds soon

[delicate coral]

ya

[subtle glacier]

which swims faster, the player or durandoos

[thorn ruin]

What’s gc again

[delicate coral]

grimmchild

[thorn ruin]

Oh

[umbral night]

Durandoos

[honest shale]

player i think

[bold turret]

i'd say player

[umbral night]

Ooh

[delicate coral]

oh actually

[umbral night]

Makes sense actually
Otherwise player won't be able to outrun a durandoo in acid and die

Maybe

[strong skiff]

Thats peculiar

[delicate coral]

you could jump + dash

[umbral night]

Oh fair

[honest shale]

what if you dont have dash

[delicate coral]

jump

[bold turret]

just jump, being in the air makes you go faster

[delicate coral]

might be faster

[thorn ruin]

How are you in acid then

[honest shale]

ismas

[umbral night]

Isma needs dash maybe
Or is claw + cdash enough?

[worthy peak]

how nuch soul do you need to heal with this

[thorn ruin]

Pretty sure dash is needed for ismas

[subtle glacier]

claw cdash gets you there

[thorn ruin]

A lot

[delicate coral]

wait you know whats better

go on a new file and use kingsoul

[thorn ruin]

Dash for claw
-# under normal circumstances

[delicate coral]

hypothetically what would happen if salubra's blessing and zote's curse fought it out

[thorn ruin]

I think they give and take soul at the same rate

[bold turret]

depends on the amount of zote minions i guess

[delicate coral]

one probably

[bold turret]

i think minions don't drain you as fast as salubra gives soul

[tacit spear]

Is more soul taken depending on the number of minions?

Or is it a general effect...

[delicate coral]

yes i think so?

idk if wiki even says

!wiki eternal ordeal

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/The_Eternal_Ordeal
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page eternal ordeal for a direct link or !wiki search eternal ordeal for a list of all hits.

[strong skiff]

Does anybody know a chill person who knows lore

I only really know 2 ppl who know lore

[jaunty dune]

Fr

[thorn ruin]

I haven’t talked to them in a long time but horf vessel is pretty active in HK lore so maybe

[umbral night]

Are you replying to a message from 2018?

[thorn ruin]

I just noticed that

[umbral night]

Lol

[strong skiff]

Highly doubt i know them
Actually sword should know lore. Could be a last restort
I should reask this question in hkt

[delicate coral]

supposedly they do stack according to google which has absolutely no proof except that
'the game's code has a script containing the 'TakeSoul()' function which is directly attached to the individual Zote's Curse, allowing for the effect to stack as both entities run the same command independently'.
i'm assuming it's possible to have multiple onscreen because i personally have never seen that

[covert gyro]

Guys been doing quite a few rounds of speedrunner vs hunter with my friend but the issue my path is really telegraphed so should I get like the skips mod or something to make it more versatile?

[delicate coral]

the knight is cool but hornet is so cursed

[fleet wadi]

wait which one is the knight and hornet?

[delicate coral]

based off their bodies

[covert gyro]

You mean the silksong

[fleet wadi]

which one looks cool

and which one looks cursed

[worthy peak]

definitely in pure zote

[covert gyro]

Eternal ordeal was pretty easy

[worthy peak]

and the other minions seem identicaal in every way or very different

[copper glacier]

Hnight and Kornet

[delicate coral]

left is cool and right is cursed

[bold turret]

ah yes, "TakeSoul"
tc would never call it like that, but it was worth trying, thanks google

[delicate coral]

fr

[strong skiff]

You should stick to vanilla methods of traversal. You can i guess install somrtjing like morestags but that feels quite evil
There is more than 1 way you can go. Iblss,stallball to funagal,queens station skip.
You should just check how for example fireborn isnt always camped on and do somrthing simmilar

[tacit spear]

I meant to say dependent and hi hollowstrawberry ^_^

[delicate coral]

i asked for definitive proof and it gave me a reddit post which was completely unrelated

lmao

[covert gyro]

Ye but fireborn does have a few skips unlocked using mods

[worthy peak]

huntison shoudl be used imo

[umbral night]

I saw fireborn do it sometime:
get item randomizer, play in that item rando, make sure everyone knows the locations of each essential item
Hunters and speedrunner figure routes out separately
Should be a lot more fun

[strong skiff]

Some qol would be platforms at salubra shade skip
You could go with major glitches like wcs or some vs float but that sounds

[worthy peak]

so annoying to get hit during a animation where you cant move

[covert gyro]

Thx

[covert gyro]

Exactly how do I get the platforms tho

[worthy peak]

shade skip module in thehuntison

[covert gyro]

Nice that would make it a lot easier for me throw off the hunters

[worthy peak]

if skips are only available without shaade skips then learn the skip basically

[worthy peak]

Would you like to ply against me at some point (im pretty bad so you'll probably win)

[covert gyro]

I mean sure but probably not today

[worthy peak]

I have to go to bed about now anyway so yeah definitely not today

[umbral night]

How bad is the lag in hk mp though

[covert gyro]

Wait what time is it for you

[worthy peak]

depends

[umbral night]

If you're from different regions

[worthy peak]

22:00

[covert gyro]

Not bad just a frame drop every now and then

[covert gyro]

Same

[worthy peak]

uhh well its something you have to plan around

You have to predict where your opponent will be and attack there in pvp

[covert gyro]

That's crazy tho we in the same region

[umbral night]

Mhm
Well that's not the case here so
Hf

[covert gyro]

It's a lot harder than fighting bosses

[worthy peak]

Well... that would depend the bosss

and whetehr or not you have cyclone slash :D

[thorn ruin]

Spells are great for pvp too

[umbral night]

Lmao
That's my speciality
Being blind with my eyes open

[covert gyro]

They are genuine lifesaves

[worthy peak]

Soul hard to gather though...

[thorn ruin]

Much better than anything else

[covert gyro]

D darks Iframes saved me so many times

[bold turret]

if you're very far away you can have ~300 ping, it is very noticeable in pvp, but as long as you have a reliable connection it's ok

[thorn ruin]

Get kingsoul maybe but that will take too long

[umbral night]

I see
Thnx

[worthy peak]

(Ive never gotten dive in a run...)

Furthest i ever made it while running was just after claw where i type gave away i was fighting mawlek

[covert gyro]

Nah but I'm not a great speedrunner myself I usually lose around watcher knights or hk

[worthy peak]

and got defeated outside it

[covert gyro]

Oof

[worthy peak]

My own fauly

[thorn ruin]

In a normal speedrun?

[worthy peak]

mentioned mask shards

[umbral night]

The hunters probably swarm the watchers arena

[covert gyro]

Speedrunner vs hunter

[worthy peak]

And i was playing against people who recognised that...

[thorn ruin]

Ah ok

[covert gyro]

Ye and especially when they camp black egg bro

[umbral night]

What do you even do

[thorn ruin]

Ddark spam ig

[umbral night]

I see

[thorn ruin]

Get spell twister and soul catcher maybe

[covert gyro]

I've only beat speedrunner vs hunters like 3 times

[thorn ruin]

I want to try a 2 player itemsync speedrun but it looks a little bit hard and I might not have enough time now

How many hunters

[covert gyro]

2

Whenever it was more then 2 I got packed

I'm not that good

[thorn ruin]

3 out of how many attempts

[covert gyro]

A lot

[thorn ruin]

Even 2 hunters can get hard

[umbral night]

I don't think it's about good tbh
It's about them not catching onto your route

[covert gyro]

Fair enough

But I always save up for lumafly

Lot better to navigate deepnest

[thorn ruin]

What’s your geo routing normally

[frozen storm]

Gpz all bindings moment

[subtle glacier]

my friends are too good for speedrunner to ever win atm
makes you understand why fire always has someone who isn’t super familiar with the game

[frozen storm]

I hate it

[covert gyro]

Just like 3 relics and normal geo drops

[umbral night]

True

[thorn ruin]

Which relics

And you do get geo chests etc right

[covert gyro]

2 hallownest seals on from mantis village exit and one from near top of huge room left of lemm in city and one wanderers journal either from like city store or wait I forgot

[frozen storm]

I almost finished radhog today

And I did p1-2ab

I'm proud of myself

[thorn ruin]

Mantis village exit is a journal

[frozen storm]

I always knew that my hardware is my biggest limitation

[thorn ruin]

Is anyone interested

[static lark]

good luck

whos left

[worthy peak]

hmm... rafters and kings station relic sound like a good idea... Then you also get journal city storerooms...

and theres greenpath journal + claw journal

[subtle glacier]

not picking up wellic

sadge

[covert gyro]

Yup the hunters somehow always struggle to stop me

[subtle glacier]

what would ilyssa say

[thorn ruin]

There’s a journal to the right of greenpath stag and one above kings station

[frozen storm]

The Hollow Knight
White Defender
Oblobbles
Watcher Knights
Watcher Knights/3
Markoth
Absolute Radiance

[covert gyro]

Oooo yeah

[worthy peak]

Arghhhhhhhhh!!! I forgot about wellic.....

[thorn ruin]

This one too

[static lark]

so basically all the hard ones aside from white defender and watcher knights

[worthy peak]

Seriously i NEVER remember wellic

[frozen storm]

The radiance is a joke compared to thk ngl

[worthy peak]

how experienced are they?

[worthy peak]

true

[frozen storm]

They're hard because they're not fun

Except wd and absrad

[covert gyro]

I'd say they are decent they only been playing for like 5 montsh

[swift jay]

I’ve been playing for 6months

[frozen storm]

And pure vessel is somehow easier than THK too

[static lark]

hmm no i love pure vessel and absrad
markoth is easy with the right build, and oblobbles is skill mixed with luck

[subtle glacier]

do any of them have speedrun experience

[frozen storm]

Obblobles is cool

[covert gyro]

A bit

[frozen storm]

Fireborn hunters?

[worthy peak]

5 months means little imo. Like you could have 75 hours or you could have 500 in that time... and also the hours mean little cause i have 900 but i suck horribly where as some people do r5 with like 250

[subtle glacier]

no, this guy's hunters

[frozen storm]

I said the hollow knight
Not pure vessel

Pure vessel is easy

[subtle glacier]

fire's hunters are usually like

• 1 super stacked player
• 2 decent players
• 1 weak link

[frozen storm]

Dream's hunters tbh

[static lark]

ive done hog twice and the second time i ended up doing absrad by accident i wasnt even trying for radiant and i wasnt even overcharmed either

i did it before doing obblobles

[fading bloom]

whats hot dog

[subtle glacier]

i mean without a weak link svh is like insanely hard

[static lark]

that is how much i hate obblobles

[thorn ruin]

A popular food

[worthy peak]

All seem goated too me...

[frozen storm]

True

[worthy peak]

can never remember who is who though...

[tardy bronze]

I wonder what happened to Zote after the ending
I hope Bretta dumped him and he just died or something

[subtle glacier]

they vary per video

[frozen storm]

My non existent lawyer advised me to not make a joke

[covert gyro]

I mean I've been playing for only like 120 hrs and I've done p5

[static lark]

we were on the topic of hog and obvs hk isnt in hog so i thought you just meant pure vessel

[lapis musk]

p5 ≠ r5, but thats also really good

[subtle glacier]

other than that one "expert hunters" video or whatever it was, it mostly follows that kind of team balancing

[frozen storm]

Nah I mean THK

I have half access to mods

[tardy bronze]

400+ hours and I never beat P3 or Collo 3
Hours doesnt mean anything lmao

[worthy peak]

no like i see the hunters then forget whos voice is whos and stuff in like 5 seconds

[frozen storm]

This means mods = half the fps

[frozen storm]

It's confusing

[static lark]

im vanilla player cause console limited

[covert gyro]

Ye I have every achievement excluding land of storms and r4 + r5

[strong skiff]

Can somebody give me more geo to guess

[frozen storm]

[static lark]

thats not to mention i still have a lot of experience with the game

[lapis musk]

nice

[covert gyro]

Ye I used to be a switch player and recently started playing on pc

[worthy peak]

r4 should give a glow...

[tardy bronze]

5 billion years of input delay

[worthy peak]

any tips on r3? considering trying it

[static lark]

like i think i first started the game back in 2021 or 2022
and joined the discord just in 2023

[worthy peak]

but its scary

[frozen storm]

That's just untrue

[covert gyro]

Id say always hit and dash sly and for nosk use shade cloak and middle part strat

[frozen storm]

You're not limited to a tv + wireless

[static lark]

i play ps5
i developed across all consoles
from switch first, then to xbox, then to ps5

[worthy peak]

isnt nosk p2?

no wait im being silly arent i

I need to remember bboss order

[covert gyro]

Wait no I forgot I haven't done p3 in forever

[worthy peak]

!wiki pantheon of the sage

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Pantheon_of_the_Sage

[frozen storm]

Who's problematic in p3...

Gallien

[lapis musk]

Gpz

[frozen storm]

Hive knight.

Gpz

[strong skiff]

!sage pantheon of the wiki

[frozen storm]

H2

Yeah only those

[strong skiff]

Sly.

[worthy peak]

hive knight nonissue

[strong skiff]

Helloswald.

[covert gyro]

Hive knight I kill him before he pulls out the bee spam

[worthy peak]

also this is like spectacularily unclear

[quartz cave]

helloma

[strong skiff]

Bro said galien is a problem

[worthy peak]

i mean the message above

[tardy bronze]

The input delay on PS5 was so bad before the PS5 edition update

[frozen storm]

I don't want to talk about it

[static lark]

i got it free on switch cause my cousin had the game and he put his account on my switch
got to xbox from my brother and i had gamepass so i got it free again
moved to ps5 in 2024 and thats the only time i actually got the game

[worthy peak]

hornet 2 is also kinda an issue in radiant...

[strong skiff]

Maybe for r or ab but even then
At least wuth mask binding
Otherwise hes a joke

[frozen storm]

I said H2 duh

[tropic nest]

Narts

[worthy peak]

sorry i missed that

[tardy bronze]

Galien is a pain in the ass if you haven't fought him a billion times

[covert gyro]

I mean you know how nosk has a elevated platform in the center well if u stand in that corner of the elevated platform nosk can't hit u while running but when he runs back use shade cloak to avoid damage

[lapis musk]

Its referring to r3

[frozen storm]

We are talking about r though

[tardy bronze]

Chat what does r mean

[worthy peak]

i tried that for r04 and it gave me less luck... how do i like use them

[lapis musk]

Hitless

[frozen storm]

All good

[static lark]

uh no hes still fairly easy

[frozen storm]

Ritless

[quartz cave]

no it doesn't

[lapis musk]

buddy

[quartz cave]

radiant is damageless not hitless

[frozen storm]

Bald

[covert gyro]

Guys hear me out carefree melody is kinda slept on

[lapis musk]

radiant is a bad term and in dying on this hill

[worthy peak]

Unfortanutely he can on edge cases hit you with the frag infection blobs

[tardy bronze]

Easiness in metrodivanias and/or soulslikes is incredibly suggestive

[lapis musk]

with mods you can do radiant hp p5 but they dont

[covert gyro]

Ye that's a matter of rng

[static lark]

this was established years ago

[worthy peak]

True

[lapis musk]

and also damageless would allow cfm and stuff which is bad and evil

[covert gyro]

Fair enough mb

[tardy bronze]

What

[worthy peak]

You can double jump to aviod it on the left

[frozen storm]

Is baldur allowed

[worthy peak]

on the right you cant cause it goes higher

[lapis musk]

Well i mean theres no official list anyways

[wind garnet]

R5 should mean radiant p5

[tropic nest]

Got a good h2 in this ongoing run
Ill send vod after

[wind garnet]

But people usually mean hitless p5

Which is different

[tardy bronze]

3 notches isn't worth it imo

[lapis musk]

id assume not, but it is in nail only clears subjectively

[static lark]

i mean half the time he entirely misses and other times he snipes you but shade cloak fixes that easily

[wind garnet]

It’s only good on modded bosses for it to be worth 3 notches with legacy quickslash

[strong skiff]

If only we had more than base ideas

[tardy bronze]

I feel most players won't encounter him only after they get shade cloak, plus it might be my abhorrent luck but he never misses me

[covert gyro]

Idk I like to leave a few notches empty in my build so sometimes it does help a lot. Tho I didn't get it on my main save file

[covert gyro]

P3?

[lapis musk]

Cfm also requires the cfmreset mod to be mildly worth too

[wind garnet]

Yeah probably

[tardy bronze]

What about it

[worthy peak]

The scythe doesnt really have much luck in my experience

[static lark]

you have a good point there tbf, i mean from a new player perspective hes simple but difficult

i understand what you mean

[covert gyro]

No like once u get to p3 and fight him u would have shade cloak

[worthy peak]

its just like kinda difficult to predict

[static lark]

i personally go heavy on upgrades when starting a new file

[static lark]

not really

[worthy peak]

I dont think that can be garaunteed....

[static lark]

there is a lot of telegraphing in its direction

[quartz cave]

hopping tmrw surely... gotta eep soon :[

[tardy bronze]

I had trouble with Marmu on my first playthrough for that reason

[covert gyro]

Same

[static lark]

its just a matter of reading it

[worthy peak]

great go ddo raadiant 10 times in a row if its super easy to predict compared to everything.

[strong skiff]

Yesterday you were up at 4

[covert gyro]

Woah calm

[static lark]

ddo?

[quartz cave]

tmrw is school tho so i gotta eep

[tardy bronze]

I struggled a lot on my initial playthrough tho, I'd never played a game like HK before then

[worthy peak]

my d key sucks

[static lark]

oh

[quartz cave]

i start 1 pm but gotta wake up early to study :[

[frozen storm]

Gn odwald

Oswald

[static lark]

well i have actually done it many times before

[strong skiff]

Gl

[worthy peak]

What? im just asking him to prove his point.

[frozen storm]

Good luck sir

[worthy peak]

10 times in a row?

[covert gyro]

[static lark]

in a row eh no but i could if i wanted to

[covert gyro]

This caught my eye

[static lark]

it would cause me a little trouble

but id do it

[worthy peak]

hmm...

[covert gyro]

Btw guys anyone ever randomly dies to failed champ? Idk why he's ended more p5 runs for me than nkg and thk

[frozen storm]

[honest shale]

do it then

[topaz trellis]

Do you think I’m fat, guys

[tardy bronze]

Failed Champion is a lot harder than NKG for me

[static lark]

if you want proof of my skill ive done pure vessel charmless and radiant

[worthy peak]

i hope you caan forgive me for thinking you may be a little overconfident...

[frozen storm]

No idea

[static lark]

i agree

[honest shale]

yeah so have i dipshit

[worthy peak]

yeah thats not gonna convice me that you could just do galien rad 10 times in a row

[covert gyro]

I can do him easily in hall of gods radiant but in p5 I always get distracted

[honest shale]

and the majority of people here

[tardy bronze]

I think it's because once you get used to it, NKG is an extremely straightforward boss

[static lark]

why would i bother doing something i wouldnt enjoy

[frozen storm]

:blep:

[static lark]

i know i can do it

[tropic nest]

Probably plays a little slower without nmg but nart (only) is the easiest way to do that fight in my experience

[worthy peak]

I have radiant all bindings hall of gods... i dont think ten times in a row is something i could just do

[covert gyro]

Fair point and it does feel like a dance

[frozen storm]

HE SAID THE THING

[static lark]

there is literally no need for this disrespect

[subtle glacier]

galien is messy

10x scary

[frozen storm]

Where's the copypasta

[honest shale]

ok yeah thats mb im sorry

[tardy bronze]

Yeah, it's very on beat, almost like one of the Silksong bosses but not quite as rhythmic

[worthy peak]

[frozen storm]

Nkg is ass

[tardy bronze]

I love NKG

[frozen storm]

Imagine being unable to hit the boss during an attack

[covert gyro]

Silksong didn't have those many on beat bosses

[worthy peak]

Pure vessel deserves that complement so much more i think

[frozen storm]

Absrad

[covert gyro]

The soundtrack

[tardy bronze]

No, it had 2 I believe

[worthy peak]

definitely not a dance

[frozen storm]

Facedance

[worthy peak]

oh yeah i play with music practically of

[worthy peak]

such a bad name

[static lark]

im just trying to say galien isnt too hard if you know what youre doing
you have the tools to do it easily, all you need to do is learn

[covert gyro]

Ah sad

[frozen storm]

I am a soundtrack addict and I don't get it

[worthy peak]

Im saying i disagree...

[static lark]

it is subjective

[tardy bronze]

The Radiance might be my favourite OST in this game

[frozen storm]

Only the last part

[shrewd meadow]

[static lark]

i see no point in attempting to change somebody's mind who will likely refuse to take on a different perspective

[frozen storm]

Like one minute left for the song to end

[tardy bronze]

The whole thing imo is the most impactful and dramatic track in the game, which is so fitting for how intense The Radiance is on the first playthrough

[frozen storm]

That's the best part

[static lark]

subjective but i think the hollow knight's is

[frozen storm]

Feels so majestic

[static lark]

it isnt intense

but it has the same impact

[worthy peak]

Look... I from experience know that galien is a major threat compared to most other bosses

[tardy bronze]

That's fair, I really like the last part of Sealed Vessel

It's heartbreaking

[static lark]

agreed

[frozen storm]

Gallience is the hardest

[static lark]

i listened to it at a time where i was particularly low

hit harder

[tardy bronze]

Really the only HK track that got me emotional

[frozen storm]

I prefer the first part

[static lark]

someone who understands

[frozen storm]

It's way more dramatic and sorrowful than the second one imo

[frozen storm]

Pale court

[static lark]

again, it is subjective

[tardy bronze]

I feel like my most emotional track in SS is a weird choice

[static lark]

i can understand it being difficult for you

[frozen storm]

I don't think that's subjective

[tardy bronze]

It's very regal, I like it

[frozen storm]

Mine is a pretty clear one

[worthy peak]

I'm not going to claim they are worse than say marmu or zote or even absrad for rad consistency but they are like definitely harder than like vengefly king and sheo for me

[static lark]

difficulty is subjective

[frozen storm]

Comparing difficulty isn't

[tardy bronze]

Difficulty, especially in medtroidvanias and soulslikes, is extremely subjective

[frozen storm]

Saying x is easy is subjective

[static lark]

exactly

[worthy peak]

It kind of is...

[subtle glacier]

galien is at the top of most hitless runners lists for bosses to be afraid of

[static lark]

thank you

[frozen storm]

Saying y is harder than x isn't objective ino

SUBJECTIVE

[tardy bronze]

I have a lot more trouble with god tamer than I do with bosses like Lost Kin and NKG

[covert gyro]

Guys Greenpath ost top

[frozen storm]

Damn me

[tribal compass]

Usually you dont want anything to catch your eye, you know how that one warrior ended up right?

[static lark]

lmao

[covert gyro]

Lmao

[tribal compass]

Cheese the tamer

[frozen storm]

Objection

[tardy bronze]

NKG is widely accepted as one of the hardest bosses in vanilla but I get hit more often by Elder Hu, which isn't a difficult boss by any means to me

[static lark]

objection
sealed vessel

[tribal compass]

NGK is hard?

[tardy bronze]

Cheesing bosses is boring af and I refuse to play in boring ways

[frozen storm]

Not an area track
You lose

[worthy peak]

No it is. Cause like I could be really bad at saying using narts and managing range with mop then I claim that R5 is easier than p5ab

[shrewd meadow]

nkg is considered hard by people who have never beaten nkg

[tribal compass]

Fair enough

[honest shale]

nkg is definitely not generally accepted as one of the hardest bosses

[shrewd meadow]

otherwise nkg is considered easy

[static lark]

objection
godhome, then

[worthy peak]

If I was just that bad without mop it's true

[frozen storm]

@greyfire

[tardy bronze]

Area tracks is def Soul Sanctum for me

[tribal compass]

Some people just dont know how to dance I fear

[tacit spear]

Hi throw ^_^

[shrewd meadow]

R5 is harder no matter what

[static lark]

okay wait hottest take probably in hk
godseeker's attuning sound is the most peaceful sound in the entire game

[tribal compass]

Soul sanctum is technically an area

[frozen storm]

Dance
You say?

[tardy bronze]

Yeah ik

[shrewd meadow]

hi

[worthy peak]

I was combining my badness at handling range with greyfires opinion

[tardy bronze]

That's why I said it's my favourite for area tracks

[tribal compass]

Ah, wrong reply then, very valid btw

[worthy peak]

Practically. But theoretically someone could genuinely find p5ab harder

[long mountain]

guys we’re playing Bendy, things are getting messy

[static lark]

die

[frozen storm]

X is harder than Y = objective most of the time
X is hard = subjective

[tardy bronze]

Anyone who likes Deepnest ost needs help

[long mountain]

I want to

[shrewd meadow]

I think you would struggle to find someone who has done both who would hold that opinion