hk-discussion

[frozen storm]

Water vs sparking water

Yes, sparking water

[cerulean summit]

i like TMG's because it feels more satisfying when it gets to the part where he turns into a pufferfish

such a banger

[frozen storm]

I like nkg because the song sounds like a trip

[faint fossil]

if anyone wants any suggestions on whether tung tung tung sahur runner or tung tung sahur extreme is better i would start with tttsr because its more dynamic and replayable but ttse is still fun and i have about 66 hours so far

just ping me with any questions

[frozen hull]

There is no way these are actual games

Oh my god.

[mental void]

Unfortunately they are..

[faint fossil]

for any further questions just ping me instead ^^

[tacit spear]

Same ^_^

[tacit spear]

Have you played star craft 2 before?

[frozen storm]

Don't even bother izu

[faint fossil]

no

[tacit spear]

Hi izu ^_^

[tacit spear]

I forgot to say but welcome to the server Ethum ^_^

[faint fossil]

ty

for not wanting to ban me immediately

[tacit spear]

There's no reason to ban people unless they are being unreasonable or they are hacked ^_^

[faint fossil]

yeah that makes sense

[tacit spear]

And being unreasonable is also dependent on other things (I'm also not a mod and wouldn't ping mods unless it was needed)

[tacit spear]

Have you gotten 112% in hk yet?

[faint fossil]

almsot

but i gave up

[tacit spear]

What are your favorite 3 bosses?

[faint fossil]

ooh prob mantis lords, nosk and traitor lord (bc music for first one, vibe for nosk and traitor reminds me of cloth 🥲 )

[shrewd meadow]

cloth literally wanted to die

[tacit spear]

That's cool ^_^

[shrewd meadow]

cloth is upset if she is still alive post traitor lord

[tacit spear]

Cloth did ^_^

[nocturne knot]

but would she if she fighted and survived?

[shrewd meadow]

shrug

[faint fossil]

no

[tacit spear]

Mine is nkg, Collector, and mantis lords ^_^

[shrewd meadow]

she's happy to die if you read her ghost dialogue

also how tf did cloth get into the traitor lord fight

[nocturne knot]

or would continue living knowing that she is capable of confronting her fears and fight now?

[tacit spear]

She was happy to die in battle or just happy to die...

[tacit spear]

Burrowing ^_^

[dim lance]

same

[shrewd meadow]

[nocturne knot]

z axis and burrowing shenanigans

[faint fossil]

i like the second 2 but i personally dont like nkg just because im not good enough to beat him its so annoying 😭 cool boss overall tho

[shrewd meadow]

we know zal

[tacit spear]

Hi zal ^_^

[shrewd meadow]

that's why you should make me admin

so I can continue your legacy

[tacit spear]

I spent 4 hours practicing him before I got good enough ^_^

Hi duoloo ^_^

[faint fossil]

nice

[fiery trench]

not what I was expecting to see upon opening hkdisc

also hello Opal

[tacit spear]

I also beat him with only lifeblood charms and strength ^_^

[faint fossil]

oh. my. aura... i love your favorite games

[frozen storm]

Throw talking about lore

The world is ending

Guys seek shelter

[shrewd meadow]

I am not talking about lore

smh

[frozen storm]

That looks like lore to me

[shrewd meadow]

nope

[frozen storm]

Don't sugarcoat it

[faint fossil]

aight i got to lock in on homework can a mod lwky MUTE ME for 5 hours or smth like that pls

[shrewd meadow]

I'm saltcoating it actually

[inner flicker]

More importantly how and why did she go to deepnest

[fiery trench]

so is the world ending or not?

[tacit spear]

Also hi throw ^_^

[shrewd meadow]

hi

[tacit spear]

Cya later (please do not respond)

[fiery trench]

u got my hopes up for nothing

[frozen storm]

That's good

[faint fossil]

mb didnt read the last part

[tacit spear]

Hi Edmund ^_^

[inner flicker]

Hello

[naive dew]

Guh

[fiery trench]

hello Melone

[ashen ginkgo]

@naive dew hop on tethergeist

[frozen storm]

Melone hello

[tacit spear]

Hi nobert ^_^

[tacit spear]

Hi melone ^_^

How are you doing today ^_^

[ashen ginkgo]

poke

[frozen storm]

Ronterb

[fiery trench]

asking this out of curiosity
do u think someone telling me to burn in hell cuz I existed is an overreaction or perfectly valid

[frozen storm]

What did you do

[tacit spear]

If it was just bc you exist yes if anything else no...

[fiery trench]

said the devil could play the violin

[frozen storm]

He could play a fiddle

Not a violin

[hollow nova]

? this shouldn't be a bad thing to say

all violin players are evil

[shrewd meadow]

I think the devil could play the cello pretty well tbh

[fiery trench]

how it effectively went

[shrewd meadow]

gg I now know the second person in that image is called Ms gayington

[fiery trench]

not like that does much in the grand scheme of things

so cool

[frozen storm]

Mr gayington

[ashen ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/daydreaming-cats-conswayo-white-cat-black-cat-gif-7341767205748460337

[frozen storm]

Sounds like a name for someone homosexual

[fiery trench]

havent met him yet actually
nor am I particularly looking

[ashen ginkgo]

trowel owt 789 hop on tethergeist

[shrewd meadow]

no

[frozen storm]

How did I mess up the simplest thing again

[ashen ginkgo]

aw

[fiery trench]

u exist
thats how

[frozen storm]

Makes sense

[vernal knot]

Hello everyone

[fiery trench]

https://tenor.com/view/america-ya-gif-15374592095658975433

[tacit spear]

Hi mega, how are you doing ^_^

[fiery trench]

the fact that hkdisc is the first search result when I type in "d" is clear indication I have a problem :P
one I will not be fixing soon

[nocturne knot]

upon closer inspection, it actually deflected it, with *cling * and everything

[tacit spear]

What o you mean that you type in ""?

Sorry this was a ba joke >_<

[fiery trench]

did u d key break?

[frozen storm]

I ate it

[fiery trench]

ah
okay then

[frozen storm]

I am right handed

That's why

[vernal knot]

Right hane

[fiery trench]

do u have something against left-handed people?

[vernal knot]

What if yes

[fiery trench]

then I plead the 5th

[knotty ravine]

yea the hitbox just came out on the frame that the sword already hit you

Which is why you want to go slightly early with gs

[frozen storm]

No, I need the d key because I am right handed

If I was left handed, I'd eat the a key

[fiery trench]

oki good

[fiery trench]

okay then

[frozen storm]

If I was top handed, I'd eat the w key

[past cargo]

what are those orange gem masks called

[fiery trench]

I'm glad u chose to use the word handed

[fiery trench]

which one?

[past cargo]

the ones that regen over time

[inner flicker]

I will rearrange all of your keys to be alphabetical

[frozen storm]

Hiveblood

[fiery trench]

oh hive masks

[vernal knot]

They mean hiveblood

[past cargo]

are they hard to get?

[inner flicker]

Instead of qwerty
You get abcdef

[tacit spear]

Not really ^_^

[tacit spear]

There is a little challenge so...

[past cargo]

harder than white defender?

[fiery trench]

miye h mked

[inner flicker]

Did anyone else find the hive because of collectors map

[inner flicker]

Hahaha I’m so evil

[fiery trench]

bpf!?

[inner flicker]

You’re actually taking the time to do this bit and it’s actually really funny

[frozen storm]

Qqqqqqqqiiiiiii

[fiery trench]

he ekrl k sif in ehzc

[inner flicker]

I’m gonna try to decipher this

[frozen storm]

Yxea nfx

QQQIQOQIQIIIIIII

[fiery trench]

ephl zkf pcsj

[inner flicker]

Ok can you just say what you said lmao, I’m slow

This is hurting my brain

[fiery trench]

"it takes a lot of time"
"this may help"

[inner flicker]

Put your fingers on wasd

[faint fossil]

that actually made me really angry when i saw that

sorry

[fiery trench]

hf'l lgjjilcm ei

[faint fossil]

just guessing you said it's allright ok

or smth like that

[frozen storm]

nfx qezxassn ror oz

[inner flicker]

How do you make these so fast

[fiery trench]

I have the tab open in split view

[inner flicker]

Ah

[faint fossil]

o soat aorl ql htghst

[fiery trench]

just hover over one key, then press the corresponding one

[inner flicker]

Oh god everyone is doing it now

[frozen storm]

I calculate it by head

It's not very hard

[faint fossil]

unless i messed up

wait i cant say that here

[fiery trench]

anyways I'm done with that bit

kinda annoying to do

[frozen storm]

WTF

[faint fossil]

yeah

lets move on

[frozen storm]

oh that's better

I think

[faint fossil]

yeah it is

[obtuse brook]

Could the door to my classroom open? I'm burning up at 109°F outside

[inner flicker]

Can relate, I live in cali

[obtuse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[fiery trench]

welp
I can now go find ur house

[faint fossil]

i dont

[inner flicker]

I hate waiting outside sometimes
I wear jackets a lot too so that doesn’t help

[fiery trench]

not that I will
gas is expensive af

[fiery trench]

u2 cro?

[inner flicker]

You better bring some games

[faint fossil]

guess whos fault that is

[fiery trench]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-dab-me-up--k01KRCWKWQGJ86ATGMWXEQR7EGS

[fiery trench]

california's cuz there's a specific rule on the gas that can be sold

[faint fossil]

who passed that rule

probably the governer

or its old

[inner flicker]

“What idiot designed this thing?”
“You did, sir.”
“…fair enough.”

[fiery trench]

the current governor

[faint fossil]

bro im larping as smn who knows stuff about politics leave me alone

[faint fossil]

thats what i thought

[inner flicker]

Real

[faint fossil]

i forgot his name tho

[fiery trench]

no, you see
ur right

[faint fossil]

i see but through a lense and its annoying bc no one in the us has original opinions and anyone who does is called weird or wtv

[tacit spear]

Original opinions on...

[faint fossil]

anythig

[tacit spear]

(I'm too busy to backread)

[faint fossil]

anything

well in this example its abt california governer politic stuff

[fiery trench]

I have opinions
ones that may be original
but I dont want to get reaction spammed again

[faint fossil]

what are they

[fiery trench]

#hk-discussion message

pls dont add to the reaction spam

[tacit spear]

My ducks look like a hydra... they make hissing noises and their necks are close together like on.

[faint fossil]

😭

[faint fossil]

dw

[fiery trench]

hoping they dont make a duck king

[tacit spear]

This isn't what they look like ^_^

[fiery trench]

mind u I dont mean the royalty type of duck king
I mean the rat king esque duck king

[tacit spear]

I had a bad photo ^_^

[tacit spear]

Oops...

[inner flicker]

Maybe I can beat silksong before summer
I doubt it
But maybe it can happen

[tacit spear]

I clicked on the link before you said that...

[tacit spear]

You probably can ^_^

[faint fossil]

my dog sucks

[fiery trench]

u got what
20 days

[tacit spear]

I'm guessing it would take you less than 70 hours so...

[inner flicker]

I hope

[fiery trench]

u got that

[inner flicker]

Cut off all the weekdays

[tacit spear]

It depends on play time and hiw well you do ^_^

[unique badge]

Hullo

[tacit spear]

Hi dev ^_^

[fiery trench]

u got 6 days
u got that

[faint fossil]

you havent played silk song larp larp larp sahur

[inner flicker]

Imma have to be playing specifically silksong for a while
I’m down for that

[unique badge]

huh?

[inner flicker]

Is cool game

[faint fossil]

give up the act

we know you havent played silk song

[unique badge]

Literally says it in my bio

[unkempt glacier]

Hi!

[faint fossil]

exactly

[inner flicker]

The 1000+ hrs are for tboi

[unique badge]

Ugh that reminds me I really need to push Cogfly update lol

[frozen storm]

Nix stop falling for the most obvious ragebait

[unique badge]

Ragebait is a fucking scourge

[frozen storm]

Anyways bye I got to go sleep

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-afternoon-good-evening-good-night-hello-gif-22572201

[honest shale]

gn

[tacit spear]

Good luck ^_^

[tacit spear]

Good night ^_^

[unique badge]

My executive dysfunction is WINNING

[honest shale]

i was talking to gui

also hi opal

[tacit spear]

Hi nondescript person ^_^

[honest shale]

hru

[tacit spear]

I happen to be suffering from the confusion that one experiences when entering a college course...

[tacit spear]

I'm doing good ^_^

A duck still has a hurt leg... -_-

Hbu?

[honest shale]

i was good until a few seconds ago
someone is listening to nsfw asmr on full volume in the middle of class

[faint fossil]

what the fuck

lwky ion think thats alowed to say lwky

js a helpful reminder 😄

[unique badge]

Hehe old

[unique badge]

[tacit spear]

Nope ^_^

[honest shale]

i think its ok if i dont specify the words being said

[tacit spear]

And I will delete this message in 1 minute ^_^

[subtle glacier]

i attended my last college course as an undergraduate today

[tacit spear]

Nice ^_^

[tacit spear]

I'm skipping the in person course so I can take a online one ^_^

[faint fossil]

ok

[unique badge]

Ancient fr fr

Congrats thooo!!

[faint fossil]

not tryna mini mod sry

[tacit spear]

Mini mod?

[unique badge]

Probably just not something to mention either way

[faint fossil]

wait thats the wrong word

[tacit spear]

I'm glad that you were good ^_^

[honest shale]

fair enough

[faint fossil]

wait no i was right

[unique badge]

Nah you’re not minimodding

It’s the right word you just weren’t minimodding lol

[faint fossil]

its when you like moderate someone else when not actually mod and just being over like annoying

[honest shale]

you’r good

[tacit spear]

Gn everyone ^_^

[honest shale]

gn

[tacit spear]

Oops... sorry >_<

[faint fossil]

all good

[vale condor]

Dr choom training arc soon 👀

[tacit spear]

Hi python ^_^

[vale condor]

Otter with a PhD hat

Hi

[subtle glacier]

what is a phd hat 😭

[unique badge]

Hi python

[subtle glacier]

holy

[vale condor]

Hi

[unique badge]

Dr. Choom, a doctor of…
-# I have no idea what Choom is studying

[subtle glacier]

i don’t have a hat shaped head

[vale condor]

Choom studies words

[subtle glacier]

true

[hearty agate]

Meemua

[solar warren]

This is the wrong server...

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/nbDTBXOPZ29.gif

[subtle glacier]

hey pyfon how long has it been since you did something new from the skip list

[sweet blaze]

choom, pythno

nix

economics today wish me luck

(im so cooked)

[honest shale]

gl

[karmic niche]

is p5 a hidden achievenment

[sweet blaze]

ty

[honest shale]

yes

[sweet blaze]

i think so? dont remmeber...

[karmic niche]

alr then i only havemr mushroom lef

adn the speedy and steelly ones

thats so much 😭

[honest shale]

p5 is still an achievement regardless

[karmic niche]

ye i know and i am trying
but fukc it

lemme chill for a while

[honest shale]

fair enough

[unique badge]

Hi breastie

[sweet blaze]

whut

hi

[frozen hull]

Hai Nix

[honest shale]

wtf am i looking at

i think my teacher had a stroke making this slide

[karmic niche]

where tf do you get mr mushrooms quest

i remember there is a text thing you can read

[unique badge]

Hi cute

[honest shale]

kingdoms edge

[vale condor]

Since whenever I did the love key skips iirc

So like a good time ago

[proud haven]

That's so cool python

You're a hero

[vale condor]

Omghi Connor

[dim lance]

this is not hollow knight

[proud haven]

Hiii

[hearty agate]

Distinguished Grub

[honest shale]

uhh

[karmic niche]

can i read that in my inventory 😭

[proud haven]

How would you even know
Have you played hollow knight

[dim lance]

no

[karmic niche]

....where is that in kingdom edge then..

[proud haven]

I think you start mr mushroom quest by talking to him

[dim lance]

on the edge

[proud haven]

🙂

Gotta have the talking to mushrooms charm on and I think his first appearance is in fungal waste

Cuz he's a mushroom

[karmic niche]

ye i just punched him

[proud haven]

All super intuitive

The rest of the locations r hinted via poem

[karmic niche]

ye i have done that in sk
i just dont know where is the poen 😭

[noble ruin]

some kinda watcher

[proud haven]

[[poem]]

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Poem?action=edit&redlink=1

[proud haven]

Oh that didn't work dang sorry

[[Mr._Mushroom]]

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Mr._Mushroom

[karmic niche]

ty

[zealous skiff]

Watchers spire?!?!?

[noble ruin]

watcher at the edge

[sweet blaze]

Cloves, chompy

[nocturne knot]

this is so epic (sunset purity mod)

[subtle glacier]

i’ve been trying to catch up, and itemless peak grub is making me lose it

nta on a timer

so cruel

[vale condor]

I believe in you

[subtle glacier]

i made an estimate of which ones would be more reasonable to do than others

and i’ve been going down that list

[solar warren]

Would you rather have pv as a bodyguard or the knight

[subtle glacier]

i don’t think peak grub should be here

[karmic niche]

the poem is so much shorter than sk

[ashen ginkgo]

hnelo chmoombrert

[frozen hull]

Would you rather fight 10 zombie sized chickens, or 100 chicken sized zombies

Now remember

You won't have ANY weapons or armor

[solar warren]

100 chicken sized zombies, they're partially rotten so if they're the size of a chicken I could probably take out like 5 with one kick. But i may be able to wrestle the chickens off if it's one at a time bug I doubt I could take down more then 2 at once

[frozen hull]

I don't know if you got the reference

[solar warren]

I'm the smartest bllk fan I don't get any references

[sweet blaze]

Let us

[ashen ginkgo]

fubl

[frozen hull]

Minecraft Story Mode

[ashen ginkgo]

flubl hop on tethergeist

[solar warren]

Bru it's been like 7 years since I've played that

[frozen hull]

Smh

[sweet blaze]

Uhmmmm after exams maybeee

But also wish me luck for economics today I need it

[coral marlin]

Y'all ever hit the sickest clip known to man only to completely fuck up right after

[solar warren]

Yeah

[ashen ginkgo]

have nice economics

[vale condor]

Good luck fiablo you win these 🐑

[frozen hull]

Yes that happened to me a couple hours ago

[sweet blaze]

Ty

Tyty

[solar warren]

Good luck on economics exams!

Wait what

[frozen hull]

Fiablo beat up that economics exam like I beat you up in Yomi

[nocturne knot]

the suns alligned (i got hit every like 5 seconds the rest of the fight)

[coral marlin]

Quote fail moment

Laugh at this user

[solar warren]

YO YO YO NO

[coral marlin]

Hellll yeah

[nocturne knot]

and idk if this counts because i played well but died anyways cuz it is just toooo lenghty of a fight

[solar warren]

Tsh, I could do that (haven't made it to greenpath yet just got the game because my friend told me to)

[coral marlin]

Not as "hype" but still a clean ass move

[nocturne knot]

mod is this one, take notes

[solar warren]

Thanks, one day I'll be good enough

[nocturne knot]

not as hype?! even the music went along very well

[coral marlin]

To be fair, the music is quiet for me

[nocturne knot]

did u turn down the audio on discord clips?

[coral marlin]

Nah I'm just listening to music of my own rn

[polar summit]

I almost lost my run to elder hu

[nocturne knot]

i lost 7 hp in less than 10 seconds after 10 whole minutes on the fight

i think its a sign for me to stop for the day

[proud haven]

Dude nah I think yours is bugged she's not supposed to be that hard

Try updating hk and then retry

[nocturne knot]

wdym

[knotty ravine]

oh that’s fucked up

[proud haven]

I'm being fr she's not supposed to be nearly that hard absrad is a lot more chill

Your game is making you play like a super version

Fucked up fr

[nocturne knot]

i tried an endurance build
i think its the worst combo i have been hit so far

or sequence of unfortunate events

[knotty ravine]

uhhh

for purity

I’d drop qf

honest to god I think df is enough

[nocturne knot]

i guess so, but with how long an attempt to plat is i think im gonna go back to damage builds for a bit

[knotty ravine]

there’s genuinely a lot of opportunities to heal if you look for them

also

dashmaster

dashmaster is GENUINELY op as fuck and I’d honest to god call it a top 3 charm in this fight

[nocturne knot]

doesnt seem so necesary so far, altough thinking of it, down dashes could be pretty usefull but i got little muscle memory for that so far

i guess i could try it tomorrow

[strange viper]

bro i hate xero's new arena

[knotty ravine]

Genuinely

Dashmaster will make that fight

10x easier

[sick heath]

Isn't it just 3 platforms?

[strange viper]

worse than gorbs

[sick heath]

I remember them not being that bad

But I don't play hk any more idk

[proud haven]

I definitely don't view Xeros as super hard

Especially for the dream warrior arena upgrades

[strange viper]

i probably suck because last time i did with spell build i destroy him

[proud haven]

Marmu's is harder, No Eyes' is harder, Markoth's is harder

[strange viper]

but i need my nail

Marmu?? Harder??!

[proud haven]

Vastly

Dramatically

Yeah

I don't even think it's close tbh

[strange viper]

well i could just suck but with pure nail build, xero's fight kinda sucks

[proud haven]

to be honest idk if I've ever played hk without spells

So I fr wouldn't know

[sick heath]

Spells are just broken tbf

[strange viper]

anyway imma take my anger out on pv

[nocturne knot]

dps wise is nmg narts spam better than regular nail if you dont have either qs and us?

[strange viper]

all i really want is to fight abs rad over and over until i get consistent, then whoop abs rad over and over like I do with pv and nkg on the daily

i dont care about actually completing pantheon 5

i just wanna unlock the abs rad fight

[proud haven]

Ohhhhh I was about to say why even fight xero atp then

But yeah obv you gotta fight her once in p5

[nocturne knot]

yeah its peak
there is a reason why there is so many modded versions of it

[sick heath]

Anybad🤢

[proud haven]

I think that's cuz fireborn called a bad joke mod "the impossible modded boss" and got it too much hype actually

Or is that an EVIL opinion of hate

[strange viper]

yeah i can whoop pv's ahh with no problems so idk why im struggling on fucking xero

maybe i should just use spells

[nocturne knot]

oh yeah you want to master your whole arsenal

[strange viper]

thing is, shade soul kinda sucks without shaman stone

[proud haven]

might sound odd but like

If you're using spells why would you not be using shaman stone

[strange viper]

because nail is more consistent

[proud haven]

But that's just a I'm bad at spells issue which from what you said you're trying to change

[strange viper]

thats the reason why I'm whooping the harder bosses that get destroyed with quick slash + steady + sprintmaster

[nocturne knot]

that is the least one you want to learn about

[proud haven]

Should be like 6 more slots

Totally room for shaman stone

[strange viper]

unbreakable strength, quickslash, steady, mop, sprintmaster is my comfort build

[nocturne knot]

for laterallity you probably just use dashslash
if you have someone above you ashriek them even without shaman stone its pretty good damage
and then you have ddark wich is absolutely broken

[strange viper]

and i wont have fun against 2x damage if i overcharm

i mean idk should i overcharm if i wanna make use of spells?

[strange viper]

xero gets knocked away from abyss shriek when i use it

[nocturne knot]

oh, idk about that one, i dont give him much of a though

[proud haven]

If anything what might help you since you're like a nail user who doesn't wanna adapt to spells
Get your range from nail arts

Imo

Especially if it's like xero killing you

Nail art him

[nocturne knot]

great slash can hit above and wont knock him towards the sky right?

[proud haven]

it never knocks like that if you jump and do it

it can't like hit moveable enemies upward at all

[strange viper]

i mean i am willing to adapt to spells

i just mean i dont see as much value in spells unless ur using shaman stone

[proud haven]

That's like the whole thing though with shaman stone spells are absurdly broken and usable and peak in every fight in the game

But to like change your build into that I would jump on your shoulder as the evil devil and say drop mark of pride

[nocturne knot]

well if you cant heal and are full of soul, spells are probably better than anything

can someone confirm me if casting them is better than qs + us + fof?

[nocturne knot]

oh yeah you wanna drop relying on mark of pride
try steady body or dashmaster or nmg

[proud haven]

he's already using sbody which is amazing and peak

And honestly if sprintmaster is a super comfy charm for him I'd just keep it

Because everyone has like a one slot they like more than the others

Mine is nail masters glory

But I love nail arts

[strange viper]

alr ig i can just switch to shaman stone until the next bench after mato and oro

i whooped sisters of battle first try and everything else with strength, longnail, quickslash, and shaman stone]

[proud haven]

I believe in you but if you hate playing without mark of pride I'd just become really amazing at the game without spells

[strange viper]

so i guess i could switch to that build and then switch back after sisters of battle when i get the next bench

what do yall think

[proud haven]

Don't no how to

[strange viper]

During pantheon 5 there’s lots of benches you can use to switch your charms

[sweet blaze]

connor wish me luck for economics

[proud haven]

What econ class is it

[proud haven]

I meant thinking

[sweet blaze]

12th finals !!

unless you mean like APs in which case
im indian i dont have that

[zealous skiff]

gl fiab

[sweet blaze]

ty

[proud haven]

I guess the terms would be super different I've been seeing my beloved partner go through different econ classes finance classes just a bunch of business related stuff and I was more asking for the like silly word they put in front of it

[sweet blaze]

ic

[proud haven]

like ik this year she did macroeconomics

which was supposedly just obnoxious

[sweet blaze]

yeah ours is just combo of all of em

[proud haven]

Ah fair

She is like a business major tbf

[sweet blaze]

mhm

[proud haven]

I think she's just gotta do like all of the ones there are

But I wish you

SUPER good luck

[sweet blaze]

THANKS

[proud haven]

Not normal good luck like some other, lesser people, like chomp, would offer

SUPER good luck means so much more

[sweet blaze]

is that so

[proud haven]

and I'm a better person for saying that instead

Mhmm

It makes me superior

[sweet blaze]

intriguing

[proud haven]

plus it means you are like 100% going to get the best outcome

Where others wishing you good luck is just that

A wish

[sweet blaze]

wow that's crazy

[proud haven]

I'm more forcing the universe to act according to your will

Yeah it's super cool I'm awesome

[sweet blaze]

wao

one might even say

[proud haven]

True

[karmic niche]

i found all mr mushroom

and i got an ending
but i didnt see mr mushroom

does the one beating thk not count??

[sweet blaze]

did you meet him at the last spot in king's pass as well?

[karmic niche]

ye

[sweet blaze]

where he flies away

that's weird
all endings should work

[karmic niche]

i said bye to him with an abyss shrike

lemme just beat thk one more time

ohhhh its after the credit scene

alr all the achievment left are speedy and steel and p5

[proud haven]

heroic

[past cargo]

how can you hate zote!?!?

[proud haven]

No one actually hates zote
They're just unaware of their love

[karmic niche]

mf cant have a worse place in p5

[past cargo]

"git gud"

[karmic niche]

i made 2nd save file literally to skip him

[proud haven]

His placement is the best it could've been in my opinion

[proud haven]

Oh you poor coward

[past cargo]

how could you hate the Invincible Fearless Sensual Mysterious Enchanting Vigorous Diligent Overwhelming Gorgeous Passionate Terrifying Beautiful Powerful Grey Prince Zote

[proud haven]

I pity everyone who gave up on beating p5 the honest way to cheat and manipulate their way to victory by destroying the greatest boss in the game

[past cargo]

idk about greatest

[proud haven]

It is my belief (and the truth) that they would've fell in deep love with him if they would've pushed themselves towards greatness

[past cargo]

but he is certainly up there

[proud haven]

YOU CALLED HIM INVINCIBLE!!!!

[past cargo]

that's the full name

for grey prince

[proud haven]

Tomato potato

[proud haven]

Man I really can't understand the hive knight love in that

[past cargo]

dung defender at C is criminal

[proud haven]

More than anything

[past cargo]

AND GORB AT D!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[proud haven]

obviously as I've just explained my love for zote I believe him to belong in S

[true crater]

I hate his voice, his environment, his design

[true crater]

Has like one attack and no redeeming qualities

[past cargo]

doma doma doma ha ha

[frozen hull]

Hating Ogrim is a crime

[proud haven]

Oh and another one I really don't get is normal radiance
I find that fight to be so boring

[true crater]

Hive knight is awesome design wise, variety of attacks, also just seems like a great guy in general

[past cargo]

white defender and dung defender are top tier

[proud haven]

Man I just don't agree that he's awesome design wise and his attacks do not have great variety imo

[true crater]

If it wasn't for the climb phase, a tier

Climb phase is epic

[proud haven]

The two dashes r about the same
The bees from the sky is just lame and boring
The only move of his I think is cool is the like
Mines that shoot the knives out

[past cargo]

colosseum of fools zote took me so long dude, def harder than absolute radiance

[true crater]

White defender is a bit better, but i dont get what everyone sees in dung defender

[past cargo]

life ender killed me so much

[proud haven]

Mannn I don't agree with that either I think we're just super different in how we view the bosses

[true crater]

Whats your criteria?

[past cargo]

wrong reply

[past cargo]

i hear the best voice line in any video game ever made of all time

doma doma doma

[true crater]

Hive knight is also a knight and I like knights, and the "buzzaaah" is so cool, and im just partial to equal footing fights in general, like hornet and broken vessel

[past cargo]

dung defender also has a great theme

[proud haven]

#1 being entertained by the raw like movement and mechanics of the fight
I easily value that the highest which is why I tend to like the bosses I view as really hard a lot more
#2 similarly to you is how much I actually like the character, but I just think hive knight is so lame but for me like
Pure Vessel has so much aura that I always think of him as at the top of my list because as a character he's probably my #1 and like the coolness of fighting a lore character in their prime is what I care about even more
With great prince zote being like
A silly goofy version of that made from the dreams of someone who believes the lies zote tells about himself
So it's like that kind of fighting a ruined lore character in their prime feel but like the lore was lying and you still get to fight him which I just love
I think I secretly care most about build up then #2 being how hard the fight is and like #3 is probably how much variety there is in how I have to react like for example
I get bored over time in nkg more and more because I get respond like a computer program to each attack always doing the exact same thing due to the like 5 second gap in his attacks instead of being caught off guard ever

Sorry for the huge text wall

[past cargo]

woah dude

[proud haven]

I just realized I wanted to explain my thoughts genuinely

[past cargo]

dung defender vs zote

who wins

[proud haven]

I pretty much only do huge text walls if I'm mildly interested in a topic I think

[proud haven]

Dung defender beats zote but grey prince zote beats white defender and dung defender

If you could like yank him out of the dream

[past cargo]

we need tag team bosses

two seperate bosses in one fight

gahhhhhh

double dung❤️‍🩹

[proud haven]

Didn't that pale court mod do that

[true crater]

I agree with you on nkg, thats why I didnt rank him above tmg. Tmg has the same issue, but at least it's original, nkg is just same but faster and stronger, I wish he overlapped attacks as nkg to make it way harder

[sick heath]

It did and it was horrible

[proud haven]

Me too especially since he gets a super cool name card like absolute radiance

And she's like the big poster child in the game of overlapping attacks

[true crater]

Yeah idk the lore exactly but isnt he supposed to be a higher being?

So he should be absrad level or close

[proud haven]

I think the huge issue obviously from like a developer perspective with overlapping attacks is just you do have to do a lot more of like careful attention making sure it's still fair

Which obviously they can do for like THE HARDEST BOSS IN THE GAME

But I get if nkg wasn't worth it

[true crater]

True, nost people still put like 40 attempts at least into nkg

[proud haven]

From their perspective

[true crater]

Cant make it too hard

[proud haven]

i put an absurd amount definitely way more than that into nkg but I also like
View myself as a very slow learner or I did idk about now
I've definitely improved in that aspect
But when I started hk I was super super dogshit and slow to learn everything
Just after getting better I definitely wanted nkg harder

[true crater]

Hk was my first game with boss fights in general, so I also put in way too many attempts into every boss

I dont think id played any soulslike game before

[frozen hull]

What games were you playing before HK?

[devout prism]

I did some of elden ring but found it hard

[frozen hull]

Hellune

[shrewd nymph]

ER is basically a game where you decide the difficulty

[shrewd nymph]

yo

[tawdry coral]

bruh

[gleaming summit]

What the mantis doin?

[tawdry coral]

sleeping mid air

[gleaming summit]

Fair

[proud haven]

I agree with this take but I also imagine if it was your first souls game you just wouldn't have any like mental grasp on how to make things much easier

[frozen hull]

?av rolithius

[idle belfry]

rolithius

Server Avatar

[frozen hull]

Eyes

Not a pupper anymore

[proud haven]

I AM HERMAEUS MORA,
GUARDIAN OF THE UNSEEN, KNOWER OF THE UNKNOWN.
I......have been...watching you, mortal. Most impressive

I adore him sm

One of my favorite fictional characters

[frozen hull]

I'm Elizabeth

[magic summit]

I'm the knight I think

[proud haven]

That's so cool that's my sister's name

[frozen hull]

Woah are you my brother

[proud haven]

She loves Hermaeus Mora as well

[proud haven]

Is your brother named Connor Lee Gregory

[frozen hull]

No

[proud haven]

Dang then I'd bet no

[bitter jolt]

doxxing yourself

[proud haven]

I genuinely couldn't possibly care less

[pure ridge]

This is how I feel about trying to beat abs rad rn.

[tough cedar]

Is shade cloak considered the best movement ability in combat?

Or would that be wings

Or normal dash

[frozen hull]

Would you rather fight 100 chicken sized zombies, or 10 zombie sized chickens?

[tough cedar]

Uh 10…?

[frozen hull]

Now remember, you won't have any weapons or armor

[tough cedar]

Less zombie sized chickens to deal with

[frozen hull]

Fuck I messed it up

[tough cedar]

Lmao

[pure ridge]

I feel like zombie sized chickens are more terrfying than youd expect. I mean look at emus?

[frozen hull]

There we go

[pure ridge]

So i guess 100 mini zombies

[lavish pivot]

Both are hell

[tough cedar]

I mean it’s either fight 10 or 100

Oh the question got fixed

[lavish pivot]

But I think the auzzies over exaggerate human sized birbs when faced with firepower

[magic summit]

Nice reference I think

[tough cedar]

I mean there was the whole war on emus

[pure ridge]

The war traumatised us

[frozen hull]

I picked 100 chicken sized zombies when I first played and I always will

[lavish pivot]

Yeah 20000 smth

[knotty ravine]

I haven’t given this specific question like much thought but prob just dash

if I had to pick one thing

[lavish pivot]

This is 10!

[frozen hull]

Who the fuck wants to fight 10 zombie sized chickens

[pure ridge]

People that haven't seen Emus

[tough cedar]

Who wants to fight 100 zombies

[lavish pivot]

WHO THE FUCK WANTS 100 BABY ZOMBIES?

[tough cedar]

One scratch and you’re dead

[frozen hull]

I can like, kick 'em

[magic summit]

It would be easy as hell

They're just chickens

[lavish pivot]

THEY CAN BURY YOU DAWG

[tough cedar]

Chickens are brutal

[frozen hull]

Gang a zombie sized chicken is like a velociraptor

Just

[proud haven]

I could beat 10000 skyscraper sized chickens with super strength and xray vision

[frozen hull]

Dumber

[magic summit]

Yeah ig

[pure ridge]

Chcikens eat anything and have crazy eyes

[lavish pivot]

ALMOST LIKE ZOMBIES HUH?

[magic summit]

My friend own chickens and they're practically harmelss

[lavish pivot]

Mb still had Caps lock

[proud haven]

You should see what they do to snakes

[honest shale]

bcs they arent the size of a person

[proud haven]

They're not harmless

[tough cedar]

Well yea because the human is much bigger than them

[frozen hull]

What if the 100 mini zombies and huge chickens are starving

[magic summit]

Ywah

[tough cedar]

They’re not picking a fight with something 10 times their size

[proud haven]

I'd still win

[honest shale]

what if we just make them fight each other

[proud haven]

Obv in the hypothetical they're fighting you and you're fighting them

Bloodlusted chicken

[tired juniper]

Just realized that in all my 11 playthroughs I never got the neglect achievement lmao

[proud haven]

Which one is that

[tired juniper]

[tough cedar]

Talking about wowser saying his friend’s chickens are harmless

[proud haven]

Is it being mean to zote

[frozen hull]

Leave Zote to die in VFK room

[tough cedar]

Ye leaving him to die

[proud haven]

That's fair then

[tired juniper]

Leave Zote die

[magic summit]

If this is the reference I think it is, this is in mc story mode and Minecraft chickens go down pretty easy

[tired juniper]

I know zote is annoying but I can't see him being in the mouth of the vengefly king without saving him for some reason

[pure ridge]

You got a good point

[tough cedar]

How does one say zote’s battle cry in words

[frozen hull]

Yeah but zombie sized chickens

[tough cedar]

Mwaaaaaaa grazi

[honest shale]

nuuuuuu malibaaaa

[pure ridge]

Thats because they cant eat you

[tired juniper]

(and we all know zote was def holding back )

[tough cedar]

If you gave zote a ton of charms what would his charm build be

[magic summit]

Pros of zote dying:
You don't have to fight him in p3
He is dead (yay)
No more zote (he is he actual worst)

I do think you have to fight him in p5 tho

[tired juniper]

Nah I find zote pretty funny

him being a loser is just funny to me

[magic summit]

Zote basically killed everyone in the underground

[tough cedar]

Cons: You don't get to fight the Invincible Fearless Sensual Mysterious Enchanting Vigorous Diligent Overwhelming Gorgeous Passionate Terrifying Beautiful Powerful Grey Prince Zote

[magic summit]

Also known as the actual worst boss in the game

[tired juniper]

That's also a pro in p5

Who the hell wants to fight zote before nkg

[magic summit]

Yeah

[honest shale]

…you dont

[magic summit]

It's reallt annoying fight

[honest shale]

failed champ is after zote

[tough cedar]

sure he's a chokepoint in p3ab and p5 w bindings but he's zote

funny character and comic relief

in your main playthrough

[magic summit]

I didn't save I'm in my main playthrough

[tired juniper]

Oh I am aware failed champion is before nkg but zote will still fuck your health because of his rng

[tough cedar]

failed champion is a free soul and mask refill though

[honest shale]

zote has some rng elements but isnt all rng

[compact wasp]

zote can be practiced a lot

[tough cedar]

what's the best way to deal with zote anyways on all bindings

[compact wasp]

descending dark

[honest shale]

idfk

if i did i would have p5ab by now

[tough cedar]

mm but how about the minions

[honest shale]

more ddark

[tough cedar]

also im so annoyed that the balloons deal 2 contact damage

[compact wasp]

you have to prioritize minions like flying ones mostly

[compact wasp]

you can hit the balloon 2 times in all bindings without them blowing up

so its both free soul and you are safe

[magic summit]

I just thought about saying marksman revolver

[tough cedar]

ye but I was on a great run today, got past galien with only 2 hits taken so I entered zote with 7 masks, then jumped at the wrong time and a balloon spawned on me and instantly lost 2 lifeblood

then lost the match from zote walking into me x5

[compact wasp]

damn. ye I can understand that

I will say just practice him the most till you can do ascended all bindings

that's what I did atleast

[tough cedar]

mm

I'm not entirely sure what I do when fighting gpz normally

but it worked pretty well

[foggy sable]

if zote is walking into you that much give him more space

[tired juniper]

Somehow the hardest move for me is when he falls to the floor

[frozen hull]

All my homies go after Ellegard

[tough cedar]

descending dark

or watch the screen and dash away accordingly the moment he appears

[compact wasp]

do you spam your shade cloak too much?

[magic summit]

Yeah I think that's a good choice

[frozen hull]

Magnus a bum fr

[tough cedar]

I usually dash when dodging shockwaves, minions, or getting distance from zote

[compact wasp]

I am not qualified to explain this

ask grey

or anyone else probably who has done p5ab

[tough cedar]

greyfire?

[compact wasp]

ye

[tired juniper]

I am guessing zote is a pain in the ass in p5ab

[shrewd nymph]

Top 4 hardest

[compact wasp]

top 3 hardest

[tough cedar]

who's in the top 3

[shrewd nymph]

Absrad markoth collector gpz are top 4 in any order

[compact wasp]

absolute radiance, zote and markoth for me

and collector is 4th

[shrewd nymph]

i have markoth hardest but thats fairly rare

[foggy sable]

markoth does not deserve to be on that list of top 3

[shrewd nymph]

top 1

[tough cedar]

collector is low key fun on all bindings until he spawns 2 aspids on either side of the arena

[compact wasp]

shade soul

or dash slash

[magic summit]

I might get back on hk today, do some p5 attempts

The furthest I've got is pv

[tired juniper]

Oh damn not being able to one shot the collector's minions sounds like a pain

[compact wasp]

it is

but it is good that cyclone slash is so strong

and spells do one shot them

[light harbor]

Why is this game so fucking hard?

[tough cedar]

does the same apply for p5

[compact wasp]

overworld or pantheons?

[compact wasp]

ye

[magic summit]

It's meant to be difficult

[compact wasp]

I was mainly following a mix of 211 A's gameplay, grey and genio's basics for fighting collector

[light harbor]

Pantheons, I guess? I'm underground

[compact wasp]

underground where?

and what's your gear?

[karmic niche]

what do ppl get in speedrun

[compact wasp]

the whole game happens underground

[karmic niche]

do they only get dash and wall jump and dream nail?

and fireball

[foggy sable]

depends which speedrun and which route

[tough cedar]

depends on the category right

[karmic niche]

just any%

[light harbor]

What do you mean gear?

[magic summit]

What stuff do you have?

[foggy sable]

any% has many routes depending on skill level

[tough cedar]

oh ye is true ending low% even a category

[light harbor]

The sword and the energy blast. Those are the only weapons there are

[karmic niche]

whats the fastest route then

[tough cedar]

I wasn't able to find it on speedrun.com

[foggy sable]

like, wr route?

[magic summit]

Ok what area are you in?

[karmic niche]

ye

[shrewd nymph]

Gl

[compact wasp]

it is

[foggy sable]

or a faster one which is discovered recently but I don't know if anyone has run it

[magic summit]

Thanks

[compact wasp]

good luck

[magic summit]

Thansk

[light harbor]

City of Tears

[compact wasp]

did you practice pv in the hall?

[shrewd nymph]

Pv is tricky but you just gotta beat him to get absrad in hog

[compact wasp]

then did you get the nail upgrade?

[karmic niche]

actually thats a bad question let me rephrase it

[magic summit]

Yeah

[karmic niche]

what are the items that is necessary to do a speedrun

[tough cedar]

pure vessel is my favorite fight in the game

[magic summit]

I'm pretty sure I've got them down

[compact wasp]

same

[foggy sable]

the only required items are claw

[magic summit]

It's really fun

[foggy sable]

everything else is route dependent

[shrewd nymph]

Surprisingly valid

[magic summit]

But sheo is better imo

[foggy sable]

and dash I guess if not low%

[light harbor]

Of course I can't send pics

[karmic niche]

you dont need dream nail?

[foggy sable]

oh yes and that

[karmic niche]

alr

[wind garnet]

same!

[foggy sable]

most routes get c dash but not all, some get ismas

[compact wasp]

any% is just an inferior low%

[light harbor]

But yes I do have the dream nail upgrade

[compact wasp]

and no one can convince me otherwise

[foggy sable]

most get fireball but current wr uses fury and skips it

[compact wasp]

no like the upgrade that makes your nail stronger

not dream nail

[light harbor]

Yes I got that

[compact wasp]

okay makes sense

[karmic niche]

i am gonna try get the 5 hrs achievement then

[magic summit]

What part are you stuck on?

[foggy sable]

for 5 hour achievement it is different

[karmic niche]

surely i can get ddark if i am only going for 5 hrs

[compact wasp]

just don't die

that's the only requirement for 5 hours

[foggy sable]

you don't have to do anything silly in it basically

[shrewd nymph]

Is it actually though

Iirc ur tierlist

[wind garnet]

yes

[magic summit]

The 10hr is really easy

[compact wasp]

you can get 10 hours on accident

[magic summit]

Yeah

[light harbor]

Two parts to be precise. Both bosses.
The collector and the Watcher Knights

[shrewd nymph]

Guh my any% pb is like 35h

this game is hard

[karmic niche]

but i suck at the game

[light harbor]

I just cannot beat these no matter what I do

[tough cedar]

Pb?

[shrewd nymph]

Personal best

[magic summit]

Have you used the chandelier to kill one of the watchers?

[karmic niche]

and i legit no idea what to do even i finished my 2nd play thru quite recently

[magic summit]

If you go above the arena

[light harbor]

The what?

[tough cedar]

Noice

[shrewd nymph]

Twas a jest but thats very nice

[tough cedar]

Go poke around the ceiling before the arena

You might find something

[magic summit]

The chandeliers in the room

[light harbor]

They actually do something?

I thought that was just decoration

[foggy sable]

for sub 5 hours left side city into dive, DDark, and perhaps shade soul before getting dream nail from peaks is probably the easiest route

[magic summit]

One of them can drop down and kill one of the watchers

[light harbor]

That feels like a built-in exploit

[tough cedar]

Oh ye is it just me or is soul tyrant on the trickier ends for bosses

[tough cedar]

It’s fully intentional

[magic summit]

I don't use it cuz im kinda good at the game

[light harbor]

Yeah, it's intentional, but it still feels like an exploit

And christ alive, is this necessary?

[tough cedar]

You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to

[light harbor]

Yeah, but I feel like I have to. I feel like that's the only way I can beat those bosses now

[magic summit]

It just makes the boss easier

[tough cedar]

Practice practice practice

Alternatively watch a guide

[magic summit]

Which shade spells do you have?

[tough cedar]

There’s this one series called boss blitz that’s pretty decent I think

[light harbor]

Shade spells?

[tough cedar]

What spells do you have right now

[compact wasp]

you don't have to do watchers now

[magic summit]

Ok so none then

[compact wasp]

you can actuall just turn back and be a lot stronger

metroidvanias do that

they give you access to all things equally, but that doesn't mean you can't be stronger

[magic summit]

Yeah

What dreamers do you have?

[empty lynx]

Oh shit new player alert

Guhhhh

[light harbor]

Longnail, Soul Catcher, Spore Shroom, Thorns of Agony, Wayward Compass

[magic summit]

They're charms

Spells like vs

[empty lynx]

Can you screenshot your charms and inventory?
If you don't have image perms send them in #hk-help or dms

[compact wasp]

vengeful spirit

[light harbor]

Gimme a minute

[honest shale]

p5?

[empty lynx]

Overcharmed shell binding no lifeblood

[honest shale]

riiiiiip

[empty lynx]

second run that died to her

Iam surprised i haven't died to ecg yet

[tough cedar]

P5?

[tough cedar]

Ah

[tough cedar]

Isn’t that just radiant then

[empty lynx]

No because you can actually get hit and heal up to most bosses

[honest shale]

single damage sources exist

[tough cedar]

Or were you doing it in p5

[empty lynx]

and the bosses i have gotten hit to were
Brooding mawlek
Crystal guardian
Dog tamer

[tough cedar]

Oh I’m slow

Dog tamer doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as god tamer huh

[honest shale]

hear me out on this one
remat dog

[hidden spire]

Hi

[empty lynx]

hear me out
Bitchass

Hiii

[honest shale]

:(

[honest shale]

hello

wait im so dumb i didnt realise you were luri 😭

[hidden spire]

luriiiiiiii

[foggy sable]

skill issue I think

[honest shale]

who are you?

[foggy sable]

good question

[hidden spire]

gayfire

[frozen hull]

Hey Grey

[shrewd nymph]

Existential question very deep

[honest shale]

idk greyfire i only know gr

[frozen hull]

Hellune

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiiii

[frozen hull]

Too happy for an old woman

[hidden spire]

I know a few people from HK discussion

not more than like, 5 idk

[honest shale]

why must you be so rude

[frozen hull]

musy

[empty lynx]

it's more like luriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii but that works too

[honest shale]

Can i make a spelling error in peace?

[frozen hull]

Nah

[honest shale]

im aware it’s hypocritical grey

[foggy sable]

well, I'm currently writing a very interesting paper on the development of economic ideas around the effects of institutions or geography on economic development that happened in the early 2000s

[shrewd nymph]

Supersigmasmtsmt69

[magic summit]

Nobody can make spells anymore

[empty lynx]

It's actually superultratuffsigmarizzlord67

[sick heath]

On discord? Absolutly not

[shrewd nymph]

Same thing

[frozen hull]

Absolutly

[empty lynx]

true

[kind heart]

You are using the same avatar as a pedo catcher

[hidden spire]

what

[honest shale]

why do you notice this

[magic summit]

*Paedo

[kind heart]

I literally saw a video of 0$ and $100 discord account to catch pedos

[empty lynx]

why did that have to be prought up

[magic summit]

Oh my god

[hidden spire]

I'm not even 18 💔 (yet)

[kind heart]

And ur avatar and decoration was part of the $100

[empty lynx]

Kay

[frozen hull]

[kind heart]

I just noticed it

[frozen hull]

I guess gng