hk-discussion

[fiery trench]

wait wat

[vernal knot]

Did you change pfp again

[fiery trench]

how to use english

[vernal knot]

What is it

I don't recognize it

[true jetty]

bro like vocabs, idk

[vernal knot]

The fucking colors are throwing me off

[fiery trench]

Meowstic mystery dungeon portrait

[vernal knot]

When to use Thee, Thy, Thou and Such.

[vernal knot]

And the colors are from?

[fiery trench]

body comes from the Mega Meowstic pfp
hair comes from a Badeline shirt I made for a seperate pfp

eyes are blue bcuz yes

[vernal knot]

Make 'em red

[fiery trench]

ok

[true jetty]

hey duoloo can u give me good tips on how i can get to ap lang i rlly need this

[fiery trench]

dawg, as long as u can understand rhetorical devices and can write an essay u'll be fine

[true jetty]

BRO IM GRADE 8

i want to start early

so i needing tips

from a pro

[fiery trench]

1. Not a pro
2. Its just as I said it was

[true jetty]

like any special things like reading strats idk

[fiery trench]

none outside of standard test taking ones

[true jetty]

like SPACECAT

[true jetty]

dyk the ielts test

[true jetty]

ok well gotta sleep now ill try and figure things out THANKS DUOLOO

[fiery trench]

night

[true jetty]

nite

[umbral night]

I see now
I don't know why i knew that, considering i started football in 2017 but i knew that

[compact wasp]

damn dude the dumb hits in r5 won't stop

anyways how is everyone doing

[umbral night]

Js woke up
Doing fine
How about you?

[tired juniper]

I should be sleeping rn but I am unable to so I am just playing hk

[umbral night]

In my experience doing something which is really boring helps you sleep better

[tired juniper]

Oh let's fight massive moss charger then

[shrewd nymph]

ab nkg = easy sleep then

[tired juniper]

Sleeping to rad Markoth

[umbral night]

If you see them as challenges and rage every time you lose (like i do) it won't help
But yea if you're js practicing it will

Not rab
I'm never trying that

[compact wasp]

same

dad's home so I probably can't do p5ab runs today

[umbral night]

Aww
Maybe tomorrow

[umbral night]

Like reading a book
It's like magic
You don't feel sleepy but the moment you touch a book sleep comes from nowhere

[lofty coral]

Js got all 9 masks 👍

[remote stirrup]

Good job

I'm proud of you

[lofty coral]

Ty burger 🥹

[remote stirrup]

Of course King

[umbral night]

I'm still missing 3 mask shards and 3 vessel frags btw😂

So great job

[lofty coral]

I got pure nail, all vessel frags, and all 9 masks

[umbral night]

Nice

[honest shale]

Dont you have more hours than me?

[lofty coral]

Hope you find em

[umbral night]

Yes
Close to 500 or 500+
Smt like that

[compact wasp]

wait why tf has spike NOT DONE pantheno 5?

what in the actual hell?

if they have more hours than 400?

[lofty coral]

im not doing pantheon 4 until I can beat pure vessel. (Practicing him rn)

[umbral night]

I'm struggling at p3 charm binding rn😂

[lofty coral]

It’s the most goated boss fight imo

[compact wasp]

did you practice in radiant hall of gods?

[umbral night]

I agree
Though i have not reached him

[honest shale]

What are you spending your time doing?
Memorising zote precepts?

[umbral night]

Yeah i will

[lofty coral]

I died immediately when I encountered him 😭

[foggy sable]

doing fun things that aren't pantheons

[compact wasp]

probably yeah, I just wonder what cuz they did say they are doing only p3 charm bindings

[lofty coral]

I wanted god home specifically for the boss hall or wtv

[umbral night]

Idk man
Randos
Platforming
Individual room optimizations

[compact wasp]

its a hard challenge but..is it 400 hours long hard challenge?

[compact wasp]

okay THAT makes sense

holy shit I Thought you were stuck on p3 charm binding for like 300 hours

[lofty coral]

Lmao

Imagine tho

[umbral night]

No
I'm stuck for about 2 hours
i reached gpz, decided that mf is unbeatable, and haven't touched p3 since

I didn't even practice him in hog
But i have got other stuff to do which i find fun

Like these

[compact wasp]

makes sense ye

[compact wasp]

ohh you are a speedrunner

[umbral night]

Not yet
I'm trying to be

[lofty coral]

that’s prolly the most basic skip ngl

[compact wasp]

go and do it then

[lofty coral]

I think anybody who knows what they’re doin can do that

[lofty coral]

I’m js saying

[compact wasp]

it is a pretty basic skip though

[umbral night]

He's not wrong, yea

[compact wasp]

but fireball skips are decievingly precise

[umbral night]

Low% does that

[compact wasp]

take a bit more effort than you would think

[lofty coral]

I’ve never done it personally but I’m pretty confident I could do it if I tried

[molten forge]

I cant do fireball skips 😭 give me QGA sure but god forbid fireball skips

[compact wasp]

do you know about the quick cast button?

[lofty coral]

quick cast is so goated 🙏

[foggy sable]

fireball skips on controller suck

[umbral night]

It's all about your key bindings
Keep it comfortable
You'll be able to do

[umbral night]

True

[molten forge]

Indeed, my key binding layout is just fucked, no fixing it now

[lofty coral]

I think it would be easier if you use quick cast

[foggy sable]

much nicer on kb

[compact wasp]

I just use default keyboard controls

[foggy sable]

it is the directional changes that are the problem

[lofty coral]

Btw ps5 you CAN play kbm but its like cuphead kbm controls

[molten forge]

Exactly sadly im to muscle memoried in at this point

[honest shale]

its apparently one of the hardest firball skips in the game

[lofty coral]

Not the same if u were playing on oc

[lofty coral]

Mb then

[molten forge]

Wasd quick cast is F you can see my problem xD

[umbral night]

You can
I did three completely different layouts, each lasting more than 100 hours till i found mine

[lofty coral]

basically the attack button is like x or smth on ps5

it’s horrid

[honest shale]

why not set it to mouse

[lofty coral]

And you can’t change controls 😭🙏

[molten forge]

I got like 1k+ hours in hk now I think its (my keybinds) literally built into my brain XD

[umbral night]

Ah

[lofty coral]

Kbm on ps5 is horrible

(mostly for hk)

everything else I’ve played is the same controls as if u were playing the pc version

[honest shale]

fuck is kbm

[lofty coral]

keyboard mouse

[foggy sable]

I changed keybinds like 200 hours in

[molten forge]

Thankfully Greenpath vengeful spirit skip has a squit right there so im not too crippled for bingos lol

[honest shale]

i see

[umbral night]

Enddeous (I don't remember the full name) plays kbm and he cleared anyrad recently

[lofty coral]

on ps5 or nah?

[foggy sable]

keyboard technically has a mechanical advantage

[honest shale]

that is his full name

[foggy sable]

but not really

[umbral night]

I don't know

[molten forge]

I run kbm

[lofty coral]

I would def not recommend playing ps5 kbm on hollow knight its pain

[umbral night]

Oh

[molten forge]

M1 attack M2 dash my beloved

[foggy sable]

fast directional changes are easier so things like nail turnarounds and fireball skips

[compact wasp]

should I change my keybinds or smth?

or is default good enough?

[umbral night]

Yes

Default is good

[molten forge]

Its whatever your comfy with tbh

[honest shale]

just turn the stick faster smh

[lofty coral]

I think default is good from what I’ve seen

[compact wasp]

ye never had a problem with it

[umbral night]

Yeah i see
I've tried controller but i suck with dpad
Was decent with stick

[lofty coral]

I play on controller but I use the analog stick

[foggy sable]

outside of like, some speedrun skips and specific tech it doens't matter though

[lofty coral]

it’s more comfortable for me

[umbral night]

Yeah i agree

[lofty coral]

I think I heard someone say that playing games like this with the dpad is better than the analog

but it all depends on how you want to play

[umbral night]

I just realized isn't bams that one cod sniper
And futives
It's been so long

[honest shale]

why did you try with dpad

[lofty coral]

Yea. I only use the tag because it looks epic

[foggy sable]

more precise inputs with less misinputs from what I know

[lofty coral]

he also is known for playing warzone

[umbral night]

In fighting games, dpad gives better quarter and half circles
The stick however gets stick drift really quickly

[lofty coral]

also why can’t I fight pv wit that cool ass cloak he wears 😔

[umbral night]

I found kb to be my sweet spot after i tried it out

[lofty coral]

He js rips it

[umbral night]

Yea

[lofty coral]

Smh

[honest shale]

i wouldnt know
The only fighting game i play is smash ultimate which you cant use the dpad for anyways

[lofty coral]

who you main?

[honest shale]

kirby

[lofty coral]

sweet

I main Luigi like a chud 😔

My one combo is the zero-to-death

[honest shale]

i love mashing aerials to win neutral for free

[lofty coral]

it’s so broken 😭

[honest shale]

i mean with kirby
luigi has to actually think

[lofty coral]

I used to play Kirby. And when people were off stage I’d js do forward air

it’s such an easy kill move

[honest shale]

wait till you hear abt down air

[lofty coral]

I would use that constantly 🥹

Mostly for combos

I’m also im in a Luigi discord server js for smash bros

I’m going back to pv

Have fun chat

[umbral night]

GL

Yesterday's video of me trying out lost kin ascended
I cannot tell you why i lose to a boss that only jumps and dashes

I think my spacing and reactions are off
But practice will help i suppose

[foggy sable]

8hp...

[umbral night]

I don't have the mask shards😭

[foggy sable]

just be lucky and find them

[umbral night]

Will do

[worthy peak]

Wait why are you calling me Michael

Also I have the best opinions

Well... It's true

The others were just insane

[honest shale]

anyrad is bad purity is good mop is shit shaman is the goat

[worthy peak]

Incorrect

[honest shale]

also its 4 am for gui why are you pinging him

[vernal knot]

Hello everyall

Happy Mother's Day

[honest shale]

Hi mega

[worthy peak]

Anyrad has a fun combat loop. Purity has a really dumb shield and a load of attacks that feel rng which you can't Ddark
Shaman is evil and useless.
Mark of Pride is literally the most powerful charm ever it makes a lot of skips easier and allows you to outspace most bosses incredibly easily

[worthy peak]

He pinged me at 1am.

[compact wasp]

this would unironically nuke a twitch chat

and would erase a youtube chat from existence like a particle accelerator

[worthy peak]

Well, if they don't understand the greatness of MoP then they deserve erasing

[umbral night]

Isn't a fury strength nail build optimal damage wise
I can understand the shaman dislike if you're running that

[fresh isle]

mop on anyrad is wild

[compact wasp]

strawberry just hates shaman for no reason

[worthy peak]

Don't run fury

[compact wasp]

and mop on anyrad is like garbage

even I can see that

cuz you are doing your damage by facedancing

[umbral night]

Mhm

[worthy peak]

Allows you to hit in top centre platform without jumping therefore brilliant

Also I actually genuinely have been saved by being able to pogo from higher

[compact wasp]

I have managed to do radiant markoth once cuz of heavy blow

doesn't mean heavy blow is good

[umbral night]

When he puts it like that it does make sense

[fresh isle]

theres not really any scenario where jumping is hindering you though

[compact wasp]

but I do love mop a lot

just for anyrad it just won't work

[worthy peak]

It's very slightly more difficult.

[compact wasp]

but really though what logic can have someone have over not liking shaman

that is genuinely fascinating to me

is it engagement bait?

[worthy peak]

Half so

[fresh isle]

u should try doing pogo into ddark when the boss is staggered

[compact wasp]

also hoi eloki

forgot to tell you that I think you are really cool

[fresh isle]

hihi

aww thanks ur cool too

[worthy peak]

But like MoP genuinely I think it helped more than shaman would have on some attempts...

[compact wasp]

but what helps more consistently?

a flat damage increase or situational buff?

the answer to that is shaman

[fresh isle]

i guess it depends how much you like to ddark on anyrad lol

[umbral night]

Thank you
I will try that

[compact wasp]

also eloki where do I get ultimatum radiance mod

I want to do anyrad cuz p5ab is getting boring

[worthy peak]

Maybe but 50% chance my play style changes to abyss shriek far too much and get hit for it

[umbral night]

Try randos, trust

[compact wasp]

that's literally just nitpicking

that straight up doesn't qualify as a complain

[worthy peak]

Why not?

[compact wasp]

you are talking about how you would suddenly make a mistake cuz of YOUR decisions. You gave no reason about why shaman is not useful

[fresh isle]

you need 1.5.78 and lumafly installed

[compact wasp]

kay thanks eloki

[umbral night]

Best patch

[worthy peak]

If a charm would cause me to make bad decisions I think it's fair to hold it against the charm when I'm making a charm build. I'm not actually going to recommend it to other people in this case

[rugged phoenix]

Quick question, what charms should I use against the radiance, I’ve been struggling with it for a few hours

[umbral night]

Even if they update in the future
I'm sticking to 1.5.78

[compact wasp]

no that's not a fair reason at all.

[fresh isle]

can you send a screenshot of your available charms?

[rugged phoenix]

All

[compact wasp]

becasue you are justifying "oh I will be tempted to use spells and then ruin my positioning cuz I am not considering the natural progress of improvement intentionally" that makes no sense

you are literally shooting on shaman to make it sound useless when its not

[worthy peak]

Hmmm...

Okay yeah I was unfair...

[fresh isle]

quick focus + deep focus + strength + grubsong is nice if you want to heal throughout the fight

otherwise, pick any combo of soul eater, strength, quickslash, shaman stone, mark of pride, quickfocus, grubsong, steady body, nailmaster's glory, spell twister, stalwart shell

[umbral night]

I think no charms will help on the climb, except maybe baldur but that's like cheesing it

[compact wasp]

are healing charms even good for hk?

just the damage increase charms are such sharp increases that it makes healing obsolete half the time

[umbral night]

Grubsong my goat

[compact wasp]

except grubsong. grubsong is cool

[rugged phoenix]

Thank you for the help, I needed it

[fresh isle]

quick focus + deep focus lets u outheal

the heal is only super slightly slower than normal and heals 2 masks instead of one

[compact wasp]

maybe the problem I just believe in the existence of "don't get hit" too much

or the boss can't hit me if its dead

to ever consider really healing

i would heal more if we had the quick focus as fast as silksong's quick focus though

[lofty coral]

Grubsong sucks!!!!

:((

[fresh isle]

radiance has some really nice healing windows

[compact wasp]

the third beam end

[fresh isle]

face beams / swords

[compact wasp]

the second sword end

ye all those

[lofty coral]

Im fucking pissed

[compact wasp]

then go to the bathroom and clean yourself

[lofty coral]

u right

I’ll go do that

[rugged phoenix]

I’m just realizing deep focus heals 2 masks

[honest shale]

Its still shit

[compact wasp]

ye cuz 4 notches

[rugged phoenix]

It’s useful tho

Personally

[rugged phoenix]

My average set up that I’ve been using for boss fight is usually unbreakable heat, quick slash, stengh, and shaman stone

[fallow grotto]

top 1 players right here 🥹

#1 in the galaxy

best player since the conception of the universe

[fresh isle]

yea that works

thats good

[umbral night]

What does heart do? I forgot

[compact wasp]

2 extra masks

[umbral night]

Ohh

[rugged phoenix]

I have gotten to the platform part and I have ONE MASK

gulp

[umbral night]

No soul?

[rugged phoenix]

Nooooo

[umbral night]

GL

[rugged phoenix]

Pray for me

I got it low and I died

[umbral night]

You got this

[rugged phoenix]

I died 2 more times, the real question is should I keep going till 5 am, it is currently 3:44

[umbral night]

Imho you should sleep and try again tomorrow
Health is the priority

[rugged phoenix]

Insomnia won’t let me sleep

[umbral night]

Read a book you don't like
That's the most boring thing in the world and it will help you sleep

[rugged phoenix]

I don’t have my boooooks, I’m at my bio dad’s house

[umbral night]

I see

[rugged phoenix]

I’ll just play till I get too tired to

[formal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694394891584667683/1365845428305793084/IMG_20250415_131019.gif

[umbral night]

You know i want to decide whether to finish p3 on charm bindings but this mf gpz keeps killing me
I really want to take a face tank build and brute force him but my stubborn ness won't allow it

7th try in total, i get to gpz on 3 hp and die to him and his minions

If there is a hell on earth, I'll see you there zote

[warm aurora]

Have you done p3 normally?

I would recommend doing that first

[umbral night]

I'm no good with any charms actually
Qs isn't useful because it's ingrained into my brain that the nail has a specific cooldown so i only hit my buttons after it's done

[warm aurora]

Strength is always good

Quickslash too, you will get value out of it regardless or you should when you are at p3

And shaman

Is good

[umbral night]

I don't have that
That nighmare lady took it
Shaman would be good

[umbral night]

Ye

[warm aurora]

Charms make a big difference

Even dreamwielder, quickfocus, grubsong, twister or mop can have a good impact

[umbral night]

But I'm close gang, i feel myself getting better every try, i really want to do charm bindings

[warm aurora]

Charmless is the hardest binding for a reason

[livid crater]

pay money

[umbral night]

I'll try like 50 more times
If it doesn't work out I'll give up and use charms you recommended

[livid crater]

steal mone yfrom millebelle

[umbral night]

She never took my money

[livid crater]

that's good

give her money

and steal it back

no seriously tho

pay her that nice 4500

[umbral night]

Does she give extra?

[livid crater]

and get 6750 and a bit extra

[umbral night]

Ohhh

I didn't know that

[livid crater]

now you do

STEAL HER MONEY

after she leaves she is found in one of the city of tears hot springs

the one with marissa

go upstairs to found her

also I recmomend gathering swarm when bullying her

[umbral night]

Got it

I'll also practice gpz in hog
That's like the only boss I will have practiced for a pantheon till now

[livid crater]

since unbreakable strength is 15k

millebelle's money is already 45% of that

[umbral night]

Lmao

[livid crater]

actually

you do need 4500 beforehand to pay her

and 100 geo to open up the "bank"

[umbral night]

It's all good
2k is pretty good

[livid crater]

pay lower get lower back

[stuck sapphire]

Yo guys gonna enter deepnest for first time anything to be aware of

I have lumafy

[glass abyss]

Don’t

[stuck sapphire]

I need to get tram pass

[foggy sable]

don't forget to but the map

[glass abyss]

Then go

[stuck sapphire]

Then i needa get to resting grounds for dream nail

[foggy sable]

other than that you are fine

[prisma apex]

Have your nail upgraded

[stuck sapphire]

I have sharpned nail that enough?

[glass abyss]

But be catious of everything (i mean EVERYTHING)

[stuck sapphire]

Damn

I beat mantis lord

Is deepnest harder than tht

[glass abyss]

100%

[meager epoch]

OMG I've just finished path of pain.

[stuck sapphire]

Damn

[bitter jolt]

ggs

whats tht?

[stuck sapphire]

I cant go to resting grounds through crystal peak cuz of those stupid crystal shooting flying things

[meager epoch]

The hardest platform challenge in the game.

Added with Grimm DLC.

[bitter jolt]

what is it blep

its not path of pain or lunec

so its not hardest vanilla or hardest modded

[honest shale]

tht is the hollow the

[stuck sapphire]

Lwk cornifier better explorer than us

[bitter jolt]

that was literally what i was thinking lol

[stuck sapphire]

Always reachung before us

[glass abyss]

The hollow tank

[meager epoch]

He defeated the mantis lords to access to the deepnest.

Cornifer

[umbral night]

Or fell in a hole while exploring fungal

You know it'd be funny to route out a pacifict run where you take the exact same route cornifer took without taking damage

[honest shale]

no bcs the hole doesnt exist until we make it, and there is a breakable wall before hand

[foggy sable]

maybe he went through qg entry

[honest shale]

two breakable boards
also the starting map would have been filled up more beforehand

[winter yacht]

New thing I do! A daily post that I hate Collector AB with a passion. It's personal.

[worthy peak]

Cornifer knows world is 3d

Or maybe he put them back cause he doesn't like property damage

[bold belfry]

no socker here 😦 👎

[winter yacht]

No socks?

[bold belfry]

wtf

[winter yacht]

C:

I make socks

[bold belfry]

o nice

any tips 4 p3?

fuck uummu

[stuck sapphire]

guys what in deepnest is hard

i didnt go in yet

i got map from iselda which has literally nothng

[stuck sapphire]

which human writes the smily face like that

[winter yacht]

One named Gwyn

[stuck sapphire]

⬆️ 😎 🤫

jk

its like this 🙂 or 😄

wait vruh

: ) or : D

( : maybe even like dis

lwk who am i to rage on a smiley face

[worthy peak]

deepnest isnt insanelyt hard but its dark and miserable, and also there is one specific enemy thats basically a boss called stalking devout

[winter yacht]

I don't even remember what is in P3 besides Uumuu, Sly and Collector
Sly is actually a test of reaction speed more than anything else
Uumuu is a test of aiming explosives and not getting exploded. Collector is more about spamming spells to nuke the mobs tbh

[stuck sapphire]

is it harder than mantis lord

[prisma apex]

dream nail him

[winter yacht]

^-^ I offer this smiley

[worthy peak]

Its a different type of challenge

[bold belfry]

who

[prisma apex]

it pushes him away and gives soul

[worthy peak]

I don't think they are really comparable like that

[prisma apex]

uumu

uuummmmuuuumuu

[stuck sapphire]

thaz a kaomoji

[winter yacht]

A what

[bold belfry]

ik but the fukin jellys keep exploding me

[stuck sapphire]

search it up

[compact wasp]

mantis lords were tasked with protecting hallownest from whatever creatures lurk in deepnest

[winter yacht]

Ok
Protip
Hit jelly into the direction you want it to go towards
Aim jelly away from you and on a direct path to Uumuu with no platforms in between its path and Uumuu

[compact wasp]

do you want my help?

[bold belfry]

yes

[stuck sapphire]

so that means mantis lord > deepnest creature and i beat mantis lord soooo

[bold belfry]

plz

[compact wasp]

its a late game area disguised as early game

its a predator

[stuck sapphire]

a what

[compact wasp]

so in pantheons right?

[winter yacht]

I like to go for horizontal shots from sending the jellies left or right at uumuu. They're the safest

[bold belfry]

yh p3

[compact wasp]

So, the important part is knowing the layout of the room to dodge the electric shocks, and to run away from the trail of shocks that can follow you. Your goal is to wait for the uumuu to do a shriek and summon the other jellies. When they appear, keep dodging and prioritize paying attention to uumuu and if it lines up with a jellyfish with NO PLATFORM between them. this is IMPORTANT. If there is a platform between them, the jelly will hit that platform and the bomb will snipe you instead of uumuu. If there is no platform, hit the jelly towards uumuu and that should disarm him.

[winter yacht]

It's kinda like you're trying to kick explosive soccer balls at a big jellyfish

[lapis musk]

W explanation

[bold belfry]

ok

[compact wasp]

you can also use shade soul to push the jellies instead of just the nail

[bold belfry]

tysm

[compact wasp]

good luck :3

also be patient

uumuu is just a very rng heavy fight

[winter yacht]

Uumuu is slow and rude

[compact wasp]

prioritize staying alive

[compact wasp]

Lav, I just do this test everytime so don't mind it. What button do you use to cast?

[winter yacht]

You can dream nail Uumuu pretty freely for soul to heal and heal when the static zap attack happens and you're in a safe spot

[umbral night]

Oh that's true
Nice catch

[urban vine]

How in the world do you beat Sly?

[lapis musk]

Hit him inbetween attacks and stay far away otherwise

[bold belfry]

wdym

like spells

[urban vine]

ok thank you

[compact wasp]

yes

[umbral night]

Yes they're asking for your quick cast button

[bold belfry]

b (im on controller)

[compact wasp]

Okay so are you using Xbox?

or playstation?

[bold belfry]

ns but there basiclally the same

[compact wasp]

is ns nintendo switch?

[bold belfry]

yh

[urban vine]

Is there any particularly good charm setup? I have Sharp Shadow, Unbreakable Strength, MoP and Quick Slash

[compact wasp]

so you might want to check your controls. In the controls it should say a button does quick cast.

[lapis musk]

Swap sharp shadow for basically anything and it's good

[compact wasp]

quick cast is the better cast button, and you should just get used to that

[honest shale]

i can tell you its the r button

[urban vine]

Thank you

[lapis musk]

Heart, catcher, twister, sbody grubsong/nmg etc

[compact wasp]

Thanks :3

[bold belfry]

r dose qc

[compact wasp]

ye R is quick cast

[umbral night]

Grubsong instead of sharp shadow

Is my recommendation

[lapis musk]

Grubsong is 1 notch

[urban vine]

I'll do that

[compact wasp]

steady body but I don't know if they want to get used to that

[bold belfry]

ok

why dose that matter

[compact wasp]

it is just faster and better

[umbral night]

It's faster than the other button for some reason

[compact wasp]

it has pretty much no start up delay

[lapis musk]

Quick cast activates on input press, regular cast activates on input release (as it has to differentiate between cast and focus)

[umbral night]

Probably because the game checks if you're holding the heal button to heal or just doing a spell

[umbral night]

Right

Thanks

[winter yacht]

Ok so Sly has a 3 swing combo and nail arts in phase 1

1. He can do his 3 swing combo anywhere but he will not be charging a nail art. You can parry or walk away from this. Follow up with attacks, it's chill.
2. Dash slash. He will charge this from either extremity of the arena. You can jump and monarch wing to avoid this.
3. Cyclone slash. He charges it in the air iIrc, in the middle of the arena. It's kinda the easiest to avoid and a good damage opening if you want to pogo him and possibly ddark. I don't remember this move too well.
4. Great slash. Be careful, he can do this anywhere but he will have it charged. It's a reaction test, so dash away. If you don't see him at the other specified locations and he's charging a nail art, expect the Great Slash.

In phase 2, he starts jumping around and he does a random amount of jumps before leaping down to buzzsaw at you. There's a sound cue for when he's about to buzzsaw. My suggestion for this is to practice dashing away from the saw and walking back to deal damage in pokes and spells. Aim for 1-2 attacks per cycle and be patient. The jumping is meant to freak you out, just stay in the center of the arena and wait calmly.

[lapis musk]

If only parrying was viable

[winter yacht]

It is, somewhat

[lapis musk]

Really isnt though

[umbral night]

Nice
I'll keep this in mind when i get to him

[winter yacht]

I do it accidentally lmao

[lapis musk]

like when is it viable then

on any boss

[compact wasp]

silksong probably

[winter yacht]

Sly
I have parried Sly on accident a lot of times

[lapis musk]

That doesnt make it viable

there are better options

[compact wasp]

pure vessel three slashes are also parried a lot

[lapis musk]

Thats just pogoing which coincidentally parries often for no extra benefit

[compact wasp]

yeah. Parrying is just not a strat in hollow knight

it just exists

[lapis musk]

but thats the closest you'll get

For the sly one referenced above, its better to just dash under/over the third hit in the combo and have distance for the first 2

[honest shale]

just parry oblobbles smh

[lapis musk]

Guh

[winter yacht]

I like using shade soul on Sly for damage because it often double hits and does useful knockback
However I know that my spell build BS is unpopular

[sleek tide]

MAN CUTSCENES IN STEEL SOULS SOMETIMES BUGS IF I SKIP EARLY ISSSUE IS I DONT SAVE ALWASY AT A BENCH SO I GOTTA RESTART 30 MINUTES PROGRESS

[lapis musk]

Spell builds are unfortunately also just not good

[rustic salmon]

whats your build?

[lapis musk]

Mainly because hybrid is so unbalanced

but shade souls on sly are good

[winter yacht]

Shaman Stone, Mark of Pride, Soul Eater, Dreamwielder

[rustic salmon]

also finishing any combo with a spell is just extra dps technically

[compact wasp]

the only way to enjoy every build in hollow knight is to play charm binding everyday

then you don't even care about charm meta anymore

[lapis musk]

id still rather charm binding over like half the charms tbh

[rustic salmon]

i see, thats a weird build indeed

[foggy sable]

but what if they were

[lapis musk]

R5 nail binding reference

[compact wasp]

but spells are extremely strong regardless

[rustic salmon]

dont think ive heard some1 not using quick slash in their late game build

[compact wasp]

shaman stone just turns a bomb into the tsar bomba

[foggy sable]

I wish it was good so much

[lapis musk]

strength and qslash are unfortunately too strong

[rustic salmon]

.

[winter yacht]

It's plenty effective and I don't like Quick Slash because I don't feel like I can use it effectively

[lapis musk]

Spell builds are viable for radkoth atleast

[compact wasp]

so much so that it made nail arts sorta unviable in most situations except a few bosses

[lapis musk]

Nail arts are viable in lots of bosses

But its not using one or the other

you just have to weave them in on certain windows to optimise it a bit

[winter yacht]

I play slower and safer
Kinda floaty rather than aggressive and I poke and blast

[compact wasp]

quick slash still fits that

you just do more hits in the same window

[winter yacht]

I'd be barely using it

So no, not worth.

[compact wasp]

did you try using it before forming an opinion?

[winter yacht]

Yes

[compact wasp]

on who?

[rustic salmon]

i assume they at least beat up to p3 as they gave advice on sly

[bold belfry]

weirdly ez

[stuck sapphire]

that crystal guard rigt

[lapis musk]

Not really weird tbh

[winter yacht]

It used to be part of my staple build through early Godhome pantheons (1-3) before I kinda realized I'm not really a nail build person even slightly

[compact wasp]

most likely, but all of them have bosses that get OBLITERATED with quick slash

[bold belfry]

and enraged

[winter yacht]

So, lotta fights

[foggy sable]

there is a section in a statute numbered 1324 and I find that deeply unsatisfying

[compact wasp]

quick slash also fits spell builds

becasue you just get more soul by hitting more

[rustic salmon]

i mean, imo there is no build that qs doesnt fit

[compact wasp]

yeah that is just true

its just way too universal

[lapis musk]

Effectively just like radkoth and colos

[compact wasp]

I would say it doesn't fit on nkg though

[lapis musk]

eh

[rustic salmon]

i suppose radkoth ye

[compact wasp]

and warrior dreams

[lapis musk]

Nothing better to replace it for on nkg

[winter yacht]

Yeah, if you can use it well
I can't. I just don't play like that and never really have.

[lapis musk]

it does help alot if you are good at the fight

warrior dreams it depends on the run

[compact wasp]

and why are you not using strength?

[winter yacht]

Because I don't have room for it.

[compact wasp]

then just drop soul eater

[winter yacht]

No

[lapis musk]

Let em use the build they want 😭

[rustic salmon]

im so very badly skill issued against asc arena markoth...

[compact wasp]

ye I am just discussing dw

it is upto choice in the end

[lapis musk]

Arent we all

snoozefest

[compact wasp]

not genios apparently

[winter yacht]

Doesn't fucking matter what my build is anyway
I've been bashing my head against P5 Collector AB lmao

[lapis musk]

Genio?

[compact wasp]

yeah

[rustic salmon]

i need to get better for p5ab, and i practiced it a bit, got like 1 win in like an hr

as horrible as it gets for me pretty much

[lapis musk]

I mean yeah genio has also done r5

[compact wasp]

genio is just really experienced

[lapis musk]

holy real

[compact wasp]

I am surprised that markoth is one of their favourite bosses

I have never heard that from anyone before

[lapis musk]

Normally isnt like top 3 hardest in p5ab but was top 1 for me

[compact wasp]

except strawberry

[cursive flume]

I finally beat the second hornet fight bro I’m shaking

[winter yacht]

What's funny is that I'm really really good at demolishing Radkoth AB. I love Markoth!

[compact wasp]

how are p5ab attempts going btw?

what's the current best?

[foggy sable]

I'd put markoth highly rated

[lapis musk]

Solely nart fights are kinda just boring

Waiting sim

[foggy sable]

top 5 perhaps

[compact wasp]

I have still yet to try the strategy genio said in their guide, so that might change for me too

[rustic salmon]

markoth is a good boss, its just really difficult

[winter yacht]

No attempts
Only practice because I'm a coward. I wouldn't be able to get past Collector anyway
I can't even beat him in practice

[lapis musk]

good boss is further than id go

[molten yoke]

Hai gr!!

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiii

[molten yoke]

Hruuu?

[compact wasp]

also ello grey

[foggy sable]

I'm good how are you

[compact wasp]

yk considering the radiance mods in this community. Its not a very high bar

[winter yacht]

GPZ isn't even a threat
Nah nah nah
Apparently my style is completely incompatible with Collector AB

[lapis musk]

I mean yeah modded bosses are 90% slop

[molten yoke]

Good thx!!

[lapis musk]

But i also think the dream warriors are terrible

[winter yacht]

And I have 100 hours spent just practicing HIM

[rustic salmon]

?

[winter yacht]

I am still not getting it

[lapis musk]

100 hours is alot, probably best to look at other people do it and get some strats

[compact wasp]

is there any specific part you are finding hard?

[lapis musk]

No point in brute forcing it

[honest shale]

please never have any opinions again

[lapis musk]

thats not even an opinion

[compact wasp]

holy shit that's almost half my entire playtime

[winter yacht]

I have
They do things I can't do called play aggressively and fast with basically speedrunner tactics

I'm not a speedrunner

I can't play like one

[lapis musk]

Thats how p5ab and harder goes

[wind garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017506791413780492/1467150800391246071/20240801_171114.gif

[compact wasp]

that's just how improvement works though

[winter yacht]

I am a patience elemental

[rustic salmon]

wait wut, you onlay have 200?

[lapis musk]

The faster you fight, the less time you spend in the fight

[compact wasp]

I have 190

[rustic salmon]

havent you done like abs and shi

[lapis musk]

anika alt acc

[compact wasp]

ye all except p5

[wind garnet]

im gonna die

[compact wasp]

and r1 to r4

[rustic salmon]

bruh, i guess im just horrible

lmao

[honest shale]

thats not very good
why are you dying?

[compact wasp]

I feel this way in osu. No you are good

don't judge yourself too much

[shrewd nymph]

Twin

[winter yacht]

Look mate
My regular P5 clears are over an hour long. I went into AB expecting it to be longer and I don't mind that. Because slow and steady still wins yknow

[rustic salmon]

ah u play osu?

[stuck sapphire]

vro is a trusted adult

[rustic salmon]

whats ur higest * clear?

[shrewd nymph]

Im also 190

[honest shale]

im not even an adult 😭

[compact wasp]

5.4 star

[shrewd nymph]

Yeah no p5ab should be like 60m so

[compact wasp]

I am still new to this

[rustic salmon]

see

[shrewd nymph]

unfortunately

Slow and steady does not win when it comes to p5

[compact wasp]

I was locked in 3 star hell for a whole year

[rustic salmon]

makes sense i suppose

[compact wasp]

gwyn, you might want to optimize the fights a bit more

[winter yacht]

It's worked for literally everything except AB Collector

[compact wasp]

the hardest part of p5ab aren't the bosses

its the attrition

[shrewd nymph]

you can blame it on your nature but at the end of the day its no different than learning a boss

you gotta be more aggressive

[compact wasp]

you have to learn to get better with practice after all

[winter yacht]

I can't do that

[shrewd nymph]

You just choose not to

[compact wasp]

if you don't practice then you aren't doing that at all

[empty lynx]

I feel like one main thing with ab is that most of the time you do not want to be slow and steady

[compact wasp]

choice is different from restraint

[rare aurora]

eh?

[shrewd nymph]

p5ab and r5 is more the angle i was going at

Anything works for base p5

[compact wasp]

pretty much yeah

half the bosses can be face tanked in base p5

[rare aurora]

i’d disagree for ab as well

[empty lynx]

Xero safe strats

[bold belfry]

i got my furthesest in p3

[compact wasp]

it is still a hard achievement but, we are kinda talking about p5ab here

[bold belfry]

i got to hornet2

[compact wasp]

ayyy congrats

[bold belfry]

ty

[shrewd nymph]

if their base p5 time is >60m then p5ab would be like 120m which is just making it way harder

[honest shale]

i have no clue what bade p5 is
is that a mod or smth?

[winter yacht]

I wait out patterns if they look nasty because I would rather not take the damage and get consistent damage and have consistent reactions to patterns and have fights that have a consistent and predictable flow to them

[empty lynx]

Regular bland ass p5

[compact wasp]

misclicked s for d

[rare aurora]

a slow p5 is not 60 minutes gang

[compact wasp]

that's how everyone does it. You aren't being different

[shrewd nymph]

over 60m p5 is definitely slow what 😭

[honest shale]

and grass is green

[compact wasp]

you are just refusing to evolve past that

[shrewd nymph]

For a p5ab player it shouldnt be longer than like 45m at all

[rustic salmon]

honestly im kinda considering doing p5ab with just breaks after every half an hr or so

[compact wasp]

I would even say less than 42 minutes

[winter yacht]

I'm not capable of aggressively pogo juggling around a boss.

[rare aurora]

40 minutes is also slow, we don’t need to take extreme cases into account

[compact wasp]

I am not doing that

[edgy dragon]

Any tips on broken vessel?

[compact wasp]

and even I can clear p5ab till fc in 70 minutes

[frozen storm]

Because that's your name and it's shorter than hollowstrawberry (if you don't like it tell me)

[honest shale]

@frozen storm

[shrewd nymph]

im so confused i thought you just said 60m wasnt slow

[rare aurora]

i am saying that 60 minutes isn’t where it starts being slow

[shrewd nymph]

Oh yeah ofc

60 is like very slow for someone doing p5ab

[compact wasp]

I think now my average p5 clear is like 36 minutes

[rare aurora]

so basing your argument around 60 is kinda crazy

[shrewd nymph]

and shows you gotta be more aggro

[compact wasp]

aggro is not the same as being in the opponent's hitbox

believe it or not

its just learning to punish every attack

[low carbon]

The only time I did p5 it took me like 21 minutes

[shrewd nymph]

Its the general playstyle of being super patient, even if thats 1 boss of 42

[frozen storm]

Hi

[winter yacht]

How in the fuck do you play more aggro without getting juggled around when they so as move?

[low carbon]

Or 10 I forgot

[compact wasp]

learn the boss?

[frozen storm]

I forgot this channel is English for a sec

[shrewd nymph]

Gng ur first p5 clear was not 10m dont even

[low carbon]

Dodge the attacks

[compact wasp]

that is mostly how every boss works

[winter yacht]

So I do and I'm not playing aggro anymore

[honest shale]

how in the fuck do you misspell “hi” as “opa”

[low carbon]

Im being serious

2nd try too

[frozen storm]

Portuguese

[compact wasp]

you aren't dodging. you are doing social distancing gwyn

[shrewd nymph]

wrap it up buddy

[winter yacht]

No?

[compact wasp]

that's a bit different

[rustic salmon]

shii, wr holder

[shrewd nymph]

You arent beating the wr on ur first try

[honest shale]

i see

[shrewd nymph]

take it somewhere else

[low carbon]

Haters gonna hate ig😂😂

[rustic salmon]

isnt tas like 12 min btw?

[winter yacht]

Lemme pull up my Rad PV footage
I also have Radkoth Nail Only AB if you want? It's got funny background music and a piss break at phase 2. Amazing footage

[low carbon]

Thats how you know we made it to the top

[winter yacht]

I don't know how to set up OBS properly

[shrewd nymph]

bad players try to make a realistic lie challenge

[frozen storm]

What is this argument about?

[low carbon]

Who's tas, they suck then

[frozen storm]

Average first time clear time?

[honest shale]

@med_students ban this guy for lying out of his ass

[blissful beacon]

Hi guys i can’t get the keen hunter trophee but i have the hunter mark somebody can help me?

[naive dew]

My goat beat tas p5 time first try

[shrewd nymph]

Not first

[rustic salmon]

aight

[low carbon]

💀

[rustic salmon]

u win

[low carbon]

Dont ban me

[frozen storm]

Average clear time?

[low carbon]

For being good at the game

[compact wasp]

gwyn, are you trying to false justify yourself that you can't do it like its a functional lack of possibility to feel better about not trying?

[shrewd nymph]

just a clear time of someone who's doing p5ab

[compact wasp]

because you are kinda being intentionally dense

[blissful beacon]

Hi guys i can’t get the keen hunter trophee but i have the hunter mark somebody can help me?

[honest shale]

oh whats next do we need to personally come polish your boots?

[frozen storm]

Oh p5ab

Should've known

[shrewd nymph]

P5 clear of someone doing p5ab

[low carbon]

Yeah i mean im down because I feel like i deserve that tbh

[shrewd nymph]

40m p5ab is very fast

[compact wasp]

uhh mine is 36 minutes

[frozen storm]

Like uh 35?

[compact wasp]

I can beat p5 in around 36 minutes often

and I am doing p5ab

[shrewd nymph]

35 is fine probably

[winter yacht]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aH7RbC26o0PRSfzA8S7eW4HxVw-T5fmj/view?usp=drivesdk

Ok. What's wrong here, guys? Am I really social distancing that badly?

I don't know why I put these in a Google Drive. It's not new footage.

[shrewd nymph]

ideally a bit shorter

[rustic salmon]

i have 31

[compact wasp]

and the 2 hit p5 run was around 38 minutes

[frozen storm]

I don't know my P5 times

[fickle wraith]

who me?

[low carbon]

Nah me i think

[shrewd nymph]

31 is where it should be around

[compact wasp]

apologies but I am downloading a link

[shrewd nymph]

if not higher

[compact wasp]

just post the video somehow

[frozen storm]

Grey's?

[compact wasp]

no, I do have 2 hit p5

[winter yacht]

I don't know how

[shrewd nymph]

greys r5 is alot faster than 38

[compact wasp]

grey is a LOT FASTER

[shrewd nymph]

my r5 is 30m for reference

[fickle wraith]

pretty sure melone was talking about me

[worthy peak]

meeting hornet at herrah requires hornet 2 right?

[winter yacht]

And I probably can't post because it'll be too big of a file

[low carbon]

No they were talking about me

[compact wasp]

ye

[frozen storm]

And not p5ab?

[fickle wraith]

no..?

[low carbon]

I have no idea sorry michael

[compact wasp]

..you don't gotta add salt in the wound. I was apparently built different that day

[frozen storm]

I think so

[compact wasp]

I still can't fricking recreate that run

[shrewd nymph]

Aka a fluke

[frozen storm]

Unbalanced skill set

[worthy peak]

ok i was worried it was the other way around

[low carbon]

Well.. haters gonna hate😂

[frozen storm]

Or fluke

[compact wasp]

ye that was a MASSIVE fluke

[frozen storm]

A flukemarm

[worthy peak]

and it locked you out of herrah encounter

[low carbon]

Fluking is not a real thing

[uncut kestrel]

[compact wasp]

maybe it was cuz I did that run right after doing some radhog

[honest shale]

when ragebaiter meets evolved ragebaiter

[low carbon]

If you do the thing once you can do it again

[compact wasp]

or was mid process of radhog

[frozen storm]

That's peak

[compact wasp]

but idk wtf caused that actually near perfect run

[frozen storm]

Flukes are very real

And they come with mind blocks

It's not that easy

[fickle wraith]

i am the ultimate human

[low carbon]

Yeah in hard games

[compact wasp]

ye cuz you stop being able to get impressed by your average achievements anymore

[low carbon]

This game is easy

[compact wasp]

you are really bad at ragebaiting

go and read some reddit forums to get better

[low carbon]

Sorry?😂

[honest shale]

please be

[steady latch]

bro im gone from ts for like 2 mins AND NOW I HAVE LIKE 400 MESSAGES

[frozen storm]

This is a Wendy's

[steady latch]

holy unemployed

[compact wasp]

oh hi there underground stem

[honest shale]

yeah no shit its a public discord server what did you expect

[steady latch]

only in ts discussion

[frozen storm]

?

[steady latch]

404 msgs

in 2 mins

[shrewd nymph]

Saying buzzwords atp

[honest shale]

What do you want us to do abt it

[frozen storm]

True true

[frozen storm]

[compact wasp]

can somenoe give me some advice to hitless watcher knights consistently?

[fickle wraith]

@tulip narwhal

[naive dew]

Hii maya

[worthy peak]

wish i had cdash hornet 2 takes so long to reach :(

[frozen storm]

@genio

[naive dew]

Why new account

[fickle wraith]

hii friendship

[frozen storm]

Or grey

[sour flax]

cdash doesnt help tho

[frozen storm]

Don't ping Genio he's probably asleep

[sour flax]

cuz of the uneven ground

[worthy peak]

acn

[fickle wraith]

i felt like it cus othr account has not so great memories attached to it

[naive dew]

Ic

Fair

[frozen storm]

Nijika scale plz

[frozen storm]

Ask grey

[honest shale]

im gonna eep now

gn

[frozen storm]

I think one tip would be turning up the volume

[tulip narwhal]

@fickle wraith

[frozen storm]

Good night, sleep well

[fickle wraith]

hi little pony

[frozen storm]

I forgot to say hi to people today

[tulip narwhal]

NOT ME.

[low carbon]

Keep distance and only attack after they roll at you

[low carbon]

Hello

[blissful beacon]

Hi guys can someone help me?

[frozen storm]

With?

[blissful beacon]

Go to help channel please

[fickle wraith]

ur not little pony

[frozen storm]

Ok

[fickle wraith]

hi little puppy

[low carbon]

Oh mb sorry

[tulip narwhal]

Thats better

[fickle wraith]

ur welcome

[naive dew]

@tulip narwhal

[frozen storm]

Hru on it

[winter yacht]

I put in effort to edit the video down so it can be uploaded, enjoy
Showing a 30 ish second clip including the menu to select the radiant option
Not the whole fight because it won't upload

[frozen storm]

What's this supposed to be

[lofty coral]

What’s worse shitting in the sink? Or sinking in the shit?

[proud hemlock]

congrats bro

[lofty coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/1499835468722868354/image0.gif

[winter yacht]

Responding to an earlier conversation
I have little clue how I'd play any more aggressively

[tight forge]

how do u get that health bar (im new to the game)

[lofty coral]

Mods

[winter yacht]

It's a modded skin. Cosmetic

[frozen storm]

Attack it when it does pillars

[winter yacht]

With what

[tight forge]

thx

[frozen storm]

Its not a skin

[frozen storm]

Your nail

[lofty coral]

I will wear ur skin

[tight forge]

what mod

[naive dew]

3

[lofty coral]

idk I don’t have a pc 🫩

[frozen storm]

EnemyHpBar

[winter yacht]

They're solid
It goes tink and doesn't reach him
???

[tulip narwhal]

Farberg says hi

[frozen storm]

Are you eepy?

[lofty coral]

I am

Cause I didn’t sleep 🙏

[frozen storm]

Stand closer

[winter yacht]

I say that because I tried doing that before and it doesn't work

[lofty coral]

Tink tink tink sahur?

[frozen storm]

Search suscat on YouTube

And look at how he plays

Suscat radiant PV world record or something

[winter yacht]

I'm not a speedrunner

[bold belfry]

lets gooo

[winter yacht]

I'm just trying to get through P5 Collector AB

[frozen storm]

Just look at the strategy for pillars

[winter yacht]

I don't care about being slow

[frozen storm]

Why did you show pv footage????

Now I am confused

[winter yacht]

Because these goobs said I practice social distancing and I wanted to provide footage

That I don't really do that

[shrewd nymph]

You clearly dont want advice

[frozen storm]

You do

[winter yacht]

I'm just not a speedrunner bouncing and juggling and nail dancing around tight hitboxes

[shrewd nymph]

So why do you keep asking

[frozen storm]

The hitboxes are lenient

[winter yacht]

Because there has to be a middle ground

[shrewd nymph]

you're asking for help and then rejecting the help you get like

[frozen storm]

Probably ragebaiting idk

[winter yacht]

The advice is "look at this awesome speedrunner who can do all this stuff you can't"

And has no explanation for how

Other than
Uh
They do it

They do it
I need it broken down

[shrewd nymph]

it depends on the boss

because if you have a >60m p5 then its likely a large majority of them

[frozen storm]

https://youtu.be/ZLFadp7c9F8?si=7rKyCarOX3rI84E8

[shrewd nymph]

and nobody is talking about speedrunners

i dont speedrun and my p5 is <30m

[frozen storm]

Well I mentioned suscat

[shrewd nymph]

his pv is fine

[winter yacht]

^

[shrewd nymph]

its not the reason his p5 is so slow

[bold belfry]

whats the best combo 4 p3?

[frozen storm]

Watch the damn video and learn something

[shrewd nymph]

and you up arrow that as if you didnt complain about speedrunning techniques ages before

ur pv is fine for now, its the other bosses that would be slow

[winter yacht]

No I'm saying that they are talking about speedrunners

[shrewd nymph]

nobody was before suscat was brought up

watch a p5 run and see where the biggest boss disparities are

[bold belfry]

wtf is on my feed (click in2 them)

[frozen storm]

What is this argument about and why was PV mentioned?

[winter yacht]

I don't even remember the exact time on my P5. I gave an hour because I don't remember it.
Honestly my slowest fight is probably something stupid like Oblobbles

[shrewd nymph]

theyre practising for p5ab and are stuck on p5ab collector

[naive dew]

Yes!

[winter yacht]

I've been stuck there forever yes

[naive dew]

Hiii farberg

[shrewd nymph]

they had been talking about having a very patient and passive playstyle

[naive dew]

@shrewd nymph

[shrewd nymph]

in which you dont want for p5ab

[shrewd nymph]

👋

[frozen storm]

Theory is proved, melone is always eepy at 07:00 -3 UTC

[frozen storm]

I realized that when they didn't hit PV during pillars

[winter yacht]

I've given AB practice for literally everything else and my current strategies translate over pretty fine between regular play and AB. It's slower but oh no
A win is a win. Endurance and consistency is where I'm strong.

[frozen storm]

The longer the boss is alive, the more likely you're gonna die

[foggy sable]

against summon based fights patience is a death sentence

you have to clear the summons else they build up

[bold belfry]

#bums

[shrewd nymph]

thats not too bad tbh

its fine for p5ab but it'd be a bit concerning for anything harder

[winter yacht]

Technically yes
But actually no, outside of summon fights like Collector AB
If you know how to be consistent, it shouldn't increase the risk of dying

[shrewd nymph]

if you dont want help then dont

[foggy sable]

ddark pillars my beloved

[frozen storm]

Old habits die hard

[shrewd nymph]

but like it'll just take so many hours of attempts on p5ab

[compact wasp]

depends but I usually run strength, quick slash, mark of pride, steady body and nmg(after p5ab), but you can use grubsong instead

[shrewd nymph]

guh people are gonna disagree with pillars upslashing because you dont do it

[foggy sable]

I am a bad influence perhaps

[frozen storm]

Why not upslash shriek/wraiths

[shrewd nymph]

i have to explain that very good players can have bad habits

[foggy sable]

scary

[wind garnet]

pv convo without me

[foggy sable]

ddark is comfortable

[shrewd nymph]

too risky / never learnt

[wind garnet]

everyone hates me

[shrewd nymph]

whats pv

[frozen storm]

Agree

[foggy sable]

I'll learn soon, I have plans

[compact wasp]

I guess if you think our pieces of advice are speedrun strats despite them being basic, then I think we should take that as a compliment

so ty for that

[frozen storm]

I mentioned you without pinging...

[shrewd nymph]

if you want to do p5ab slow and steady then suit urself

but like its really not a good idea

[compact wasp]

I mean it is your hell. We can only tell you how to make it easier but if you have made up your mind then there's no use arguing

[shrewd nymph]

time to pull out the 'as someone who has done x' qualification

[umbral night]

Nah
I love the pv wr

[compact wasp]

getting faster is kinda just the natural improvement curve

idk why would someone even enjoy bossfights if that's not the purpose

[naive dew]

Hii hru

[compact wasp]

@foggy sable isn't that the whole reason why ab is so fun?

[naive dew]

Usually since i wake up at 10am

[shrewd nymph]

im fine, spent most of the day out w my mum for mothers day

[foggy sable]

I just find not ab too simple to be interesting