hk-discussion

[keen thorn]

I only do wraiths in the corners
Iirc it didn't happen here

[empty lynx]

Honestly
i think i genuinely learned hornet sentinel from nail 0 overworld

[umbral night]

But i thought items meant claw, dash
It includes upgrades?

[keen thorn]

Items is absolutely everything

[carmine lava]

wraiths just isn’t very good in markoth

[umbral night]

Ohh

[keen thorn]

Itemless means the gear you get when clicking new file and dropped into Kings pass

[empty lynx]

It's great practice for her
Even better than ascended or radiant honestly

[umbral night]

Cool
Thnx

[compact wasp]

so long story short the only real difference between ab bosses and normal p5 bosses is to basically stop fucking around

[past cargo]

quick slash + mark of pride is amazing

[empty lynx]

Glad you're having fun

[keen thorn]

There are 6 kinds of items at least for boss fighting sake
Movement Abilities
Nail Arts
Nail upgrades
Spells
Charms
Masks and vessels

[compact wasp]

actually take every single boss seriously

including the ones you thought were easy

[past cargo]

I'm so op rn, i have the coiled nail aswell

this is great

[empty lynx]

Even elder hu?

[compact wasp]

ye

cuz collector is right after him

[empty lynx]

Life's good

[compact wasp]

lifeblood is needed

[past cargo]

this game is soooooo much better than silksong

[compact wasp]

my main issue with markoth is impatience

like this is just genuinely my only mistake

I do the most basic fundamental error of it lmao

"hit more so the boss dies"

that stops being true in ab

just survive and let the dying happen I guess

[empty lynx]

The one good thing about -14 that grey said was that you can just not care about when the boss dies and lock in anyway

Low gear is the same especially for bosses like gpz

[foggy sable]

it was more when you do 1 nail damage for practice winning isn't important

[carmine lava]

i think that challenge isn’t really worth it for all except a few bosses

[foggy sable]

the important part is learning how to survive in the fight for a long time

[empty lynx]

marmu

[foggy sable]

and it wasn't -14 it was -14no

[carmine lava]

not marmu

i only did -14r collector, markoth, gpz, and absrad

[empty lynx]

Oh right

[foggy sable]

but the point of doing fights like that is just practice to see how long you can survive and learning to deal with pretty much every pattern

[umbral night]

So I'll ask anyway
What is -14no?

[empty lynx]

Nail only 1 damage

Why did that reply wtf

[umbral night]

Oh i swe

[foggy sable]

-14 is 1 nail damage white spells all bindings

radiant

[empty lynx]

Oh yea i think you did a run today how goes it

[compact wasp]

okay actually hitless sisters of battle

[carmine lava]

you need to add an r somewhere then

[compact wasp]

in ab this time

[foggy sable]

it was 9 hits I think, not amazing but getting back into pantheon runs is difficult

[umbral night]

-14nor

[compact wasp]

actually true. I need to think about this the same way I thought about p5 starting out

[empty lynx]

Watch me get hit 13 times to hive knight

[foggy sable]

this basically
https://youtu.be/gNjN2hUPamI

but without the r

[empty lynx]

Or you can count how many times you hit him but that's boring

[empty lynx]

why

[foggy sable]

I lost a r5ab run to the fight

[compact wasp]

no like back then I used to think "dodge enough to the point you can do it all day, and let winning be a side effect"

[foggy sable]

same reason I did marmu

[compact wasp]

idk when I stopped thinking that way

[fresh isle]

😭

[compact wasp]

probably cuz all dodging became muscle memory

[vernal knot]

Wow

[empty lynx]

hi te

[vernal knot]

I'm not te

[compact wasp]

okay now off to marmu and stuff

[empty lynx]

dang it failed this time

[vernal knot]

What yall doing

[empty lynx]

Aka lifeblood sucker segment

[empty lynx]

P5ab

[vernal knot]

I see

[compact wasp]

hitless marmu

okay that was really good

[umbral night]

Nail only lost kin looks fun
But i could only last 1 minute
16 is insane

[foggy sable]

it is fairly chill

marmu on the other hand...

[umbral night]

Ohh

Lol

[foggy sable]

10 minute marmu fight

[empty lynx]

and you're the one saying sorry for your loss to anyrad players.

[harsh mantle]

I beat White Defender once ;-;

[frigid bronze]

I felt so stupid trying to radiant marmu for half an hour before discovering the method

[foggy sable]

tbf not many people do obscure marmu challenges whereas lots of people do anybad

[vernal knot]

What's a good Marmu challenge

[foggy sable]

none of them

the fight sucks and has a fair amount of rng and is a bit unfair

[vernal knot]

So what's the redeeming aspect

[umbral night]

You get to hit a ball with the bat

[vernal knot]

Fair enoug

[compact wasp]

okay galien landed 3 hits

[foggy sable]

none

[keen thorn]

Radiant Marmu 600 nail damage

[umbral night]

Home run, gg

[compact wasp]

welp entering hiveknight 8 lifeblood masks

[umbral night]

How did gpz go?

[compact wasp]

oh this is p5

gpz is MUCH later

right after markoth

[umbral night]

Ohhh

[compact wasp]

okay now watcher knights uumuu, winged nosk and sly

@keen thorn any help for uumuu?

just in general?

[keen thorn]

First you should know the attack patterns and arena layout

I describe them in the Rhog guide hold up a sec

[carmine lava]

…all bindings

[keen thorn]

They are actually really important

[compact wasp]

I can do the electricity following thing

just move in a circle

but many times when it spawns electric spots all across the arena, I get caught

[keen thorn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dMk4YLi9DaXfh0xdGqXM2BnYhg_RgaPk5tkZv-xmfKs/edit?tab=t.0

[keen thorn]

Yes that

The boss actually has a grand total of

1 pattern

[compact wasp]

unironically one of those bosses were despite radiant it can be a problem

p5ab is so much HARDER than radiant hall of gods that to this day it surprises me

[keen thorn]

Yeah they're not even comparable

[compact wasp]

heck I would say radiant hall of gods is a prerequisite

[keen thorn]

Anyone who thinks that just hasn't tried RHoG

[compact wasp]

wtf are you doing trying p5ab without radiant hog?

[keen thorn]

Anyways check the doc

You'll be shocked

Hehe get it?

[noble ruin]

radiant hog doesnt give anything if you dont like radiant bosses then i can imagine someone not doing it

[compact wasp]

it forces you to memorize patterns which you ignored during normal p5 runs

because you can just melt the bosses in normal p5

[noble ruin]

then the best practice is just p5ab for p5ab

[keen thorn]

Oh btw just check the second page
The first one is still good if you want to read

[noble ruin]

radhog teaches you to play with full gear not all bindings

[compact wasp]

that explains a lot

[keen thorn]

It's very important to note that jellies do 150 damage

This is even crazier in AB

[vocal inlet]

hate this cunt

[compact wasp]

i thought it was just the center or that orange circle

[keen thorn]

Since two basically kills Uumuu

You want to aim for that two cycle

Just 25 damage per cycle is 2 nails and you got it

[noble ruin]

damn chill

[vocal inlet]

no fuck winged nosk

piece of shit boss 🖕

normal nosk is a good kid however

[umbral night]

Lmaoo

Flying thk

He has the same hitbox

One head and one body

[compact wasp]

it has a different kind of carry over. You are really underestimating how many people have the bad habit of face tanking bosses during pantheons. As much as I agree that the best practice for p5ab is p5ab itself, it is more like learning differentiation before targetting advanced integration. Radiant hall of gods changes your priority to dodging which has personally helped me a lot for pantheon all bindings because all I need to do is to use those radiant hall of gods habits as base and then add new things to it.

and genio I Read the guide

that will help a lot

[keen thorn]

I mean you kinda need derivatives for integration by parts but I get what you mean

[compact wasp]

that is what I mean

radhog is the derivative and the ab are integration

[keen thorn]

I mean you just can't do integration by parts of you don't know how to derive

Especially if you get some extremely funky functions

[compact wasp]

yet rue

ye true*

[keen thorn]

Also u-sub actually

[compact wasp]

and don't even think about u substitution without mastering chain rule first

[keen thorn]

Did you read what I sent about jellies?

[compact wasp]

yep

[fresh isle]

im actually not that washed outside of gpz yay

[keen thorn]

So yeah your goal is a two cycle

[umbral night]

Int(tan(x)dx)

[keen thorn]

Two jellies and 4 nails

[compact wasp]

I actually do everything you said too. I just rushed a bit too much

[compact wasp]

isn't that just tanx to sinx/cosx and then basic u sub?

[umbral night]

Yes

[keen thorn]

u=cos(x) du=-sin(x)dx
Thing =-∫du/u = -Ln(u)+c

[compact wasp]

ye exactly

[umbral night]

Nice

[compact wasp]

welp I am taking breaks on benches now

to kinda mentally refresh myself

[keen thorn]

And just out back -Ln(cos(x))+c

[umbral night]

ln(sec(x))

[compact wasp]

sec^2x + x + c

actually no

[keen thorn]

?? No?

[compact wasp]

I will need pen and paper for this one lol

ye no. I mixed it up there

[compact wasp]

ye ye I know

[keen thorn]

For spike

Idk why they said that

[umbral night]

-ln(cosx) = ln(1/cosx) = ln(secx)

[compact wasp]

ye I immediately realized I was wrong lol

[umbral night]

Logarithmic property

[keen thorn]

Oh yeah log properties

[compact wasp]

welp time to do watchers and stuff

[foggy sable]

ugh I hate logs

[keen thorn]

But why leave your sines and cosines for a sign

Wait are sign and sine homophones?

[umbral night]

What are homophones?
I'm decent at math, bad at english

Sound the same?

[keen thorn]

Words with the same pronunciation

[umbral night]

I see

[gloomy scarab]

I love logs

[keen thorn]

Will, we'll, wheel, weal

[foggy sable]

will is not pronounced the same

I guess it depends on accent though

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[umbral night]

Well here's a harder problem then:
Differentiate w.r.t. x where k is a constant -
f(x) = log(1+x) + log(1+x²) + log(1+x⁴) +.....+ log(1+x^(2^(k)))
last one is the k'th term

And represent the answer in a single expression, not a long sum

Brb, ping me if anyone manages to solve

[umbral night]

Corrected
K th term in the sum is log(1+x^(2^(k)))

[nocturne spindle]

uhhhh tf is happening

[umbral night]

Lmao

Ignore that

[nocturne spindle]

yeah thanks my brain is gonna get fried if i try to calculate that

[sick heath]

The more run I do with Tinkerer the more I like it because some of the synergies I have been getting is insane

also Mind Meld is just broken god damn

[wild sierra]

Fish

[sterile juniper]

Aight bet i see telescopic series

[umbral night]

That is correct

If you did find the exact trick, the next step is to check if the series converges for k = infinity and x < 1

[celest zinc]

I rebeat true eigong are y'all proud

[subtle glacier]

such a dumb skip

it’s like hard AND boring

why would someone invent this

[shrewd nymph]

Why would someone do it

[subtle glacier]

they put it on a list
a kamakiller list
a kamakiller list with skips

[shrewd nymph]

And then YOU did it

[subtle glacier]

yeah i’m doing the list

[wild sierra]

Hm

Interesting

[subtle glacier]

it’s like almost at the bottom idk i thought i would’ve gotten filtered by now

[shrewd nymph]

guh sorry to hear that

Godhome slop >

[noble ruin]

sorry what

how did you double jump like 3 times

[compact wasp]

made it to failed champ and died

[subtle glacier]

https://youtu.be/j6KYMklYAhw?si=0991eOjXrpHHSOZO

[wild sierra]

Once because he has it twice idk thrice he pogoed

[subtle glacier]

hitboxes

[compact wasp]

finally some actual progress

[wild sierra]

O I see

[foggy sable]

classic

[wild sierra]

U wj

[foggy sable]

fc is so annoying

[subtle glacier]

i cling and drop

fall speed reset hell

[sterile juniper]

Okay so the function just becomes summation of x^2^n after some approximation thus, as x<1 and k tends to inf then it is convergent

[subtle glacier]

wj sends you backwards, wings does not

[wild sierra]

Fish

[cinder jackal]

least obscure non main cat skip

[slender elbow]

dont have the time to write out a full breakdown of the solution but the gist is that u define g(x) = log(1-x) + f(x), this essentially "collapses" the infinite sum of logarithms to smth like log(1 - x^2^(k+1)) as k goes to infinity, meaning g(x) = log(1 - 0) = 0 for |x| < 1 (and diverges otherwise), then f(x) = -log(1-x) so f'(x) = 1/(1-x)

[subtle glacier]

the opposite of vertless

horiless

[subtle glacier]

i just found out that ggg has a stallball to get to cliffs from greenpath??? like what the hell is that

[tired juniper]

Oh they use the Baldur shell hole?

[fresh isle]

omghi vyper hi choom

[wild sierra]

It’s u :0 hi

[subtle glacier]

idkwym the baldur shell hole
the idea is to not have to deal with baldur rng

so you go up the shaft that connects to the grub

[subtle glacier]

hyd friendo

[tired juniper]

Oh I thought they intentionally die there

[wild sierra]

Unn

[subtle glacier]

dying sounds slow

what if elite ball stalladge

[wild sierra]

Oon or unn

[cinder jackal]

yea lol

[cinder jackal]

hi

[subtle glacier]

i did i timing session to see if the city fountain stallball saved time on ggg

[noble ruin]

cat....

[subtle glacier]

it’s like 10-13 seconds

[cinder jackal]

fountain stallball looks soo ass

[subtle glacier]

but imagine trying to hit ggg after you get city gate stallball that’s so nerve wracking

[wild sierra]

What ggg

[cinder jackal]

where's the nearest soul even if you miss it

[wild sierra]

[subtle glacier]

you can dnail a husk through the door

[cinder jackal]

rng 🩵

[subtle glacier]

they can just decide to pause or turn around yeah

[subtle glacier]

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

the best cat extension extension

[wild sierra]

[subtle glacier]

can you believe staxis has ggg wr

bro has wr in the most random shit

and then yk

the mainstream glitched cats

[umbral night]

Perfect

[umbral night]

Firee

[umbral night]

I saw someone mention that in a yt video
But i never saw it in speedrun.com

Is it there?

[subtle glacier]

no, it’s a cat extension extension or smth

[umbral night]

I see
Ty

[subtle glacier]

same as stuff like lowte

[umbral night]

Mhm

[empty lynx]

Attuned ono
ew
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592273977137692683/1502558310505775144/Screenshot_------_com.TeamCherry.HollowKnight.jpg?ex=6a0025f9&is=69fed479&hm=44239b44108cd60df96f58b2c872fda7eb1f55ac85c5b4d3a3889956c89342d0&

[tired juniper]

Is there a modded Mantis Lords boss where they don't attack on sync with each other?

[zinc iris]

Isn't that what makes them fun

[umbral night]

If you wall climb high enough on side, it desyncs them for a bit i think

It has happened to me before

[compact wasp]

yall random question, but should I learn to write with my left hand?

[umbral night]

I vote yes, cuz why not

[worthy peak]

doing the first phase of it with double bosses maybe

[compact wasp]

tbf I am forced right handed

as in naturally left handed but forced to be right handed growing up cuz of parents

[worthy peak]

That might be too much offsync though

[zinc iris]

U shd learn then

[worthy peak]

D:

[zinc iris]

U prob still have some innate skill

With left hand

[compact wasp]

my left hand could write cursive with like just 20 minutes of practice

like atleast some level of it

[lapis pendant]

Do we know what happened to the weaver you can see escaping when you leave the Weaver's Den in Deepnest

[compact wasp]

there is just no innate muscle memory of control yet

[empty lynx]

Nuh uh

[lapis pendant]

Disappointing

[gloomy scarab]

Alternatively exciting

[fallow grotto]

78-85%

[cobalt linden]

Can't believe Elderbug would treat Elderbug this way

[worthy peak]

why does sheo sometimes quick unstagger

[thorn ruin]

What happened to the tiktik

And why was it there

[cobalt linden]

Vibing

[thorn ruin]

It leaned to shoot itself

[cobalt linden]

I tamed a Primal Aspid, it's my pet now

[thorn ruin]

The tiktik is still there

It respawns

Also what mod is this

Architect?

[cobalt linden]

It's Architect, but this is an unreleased version I'm working on (the latest version for HK is 1.18.4, this is 3.28.0)

I'm porting the Silksong version to HK with its newer features

[thorn ruin]

Oh nice

[carmine lava]

it you dislike left handed people in the 21st century you gotta be everything phobic

[worthy peak]

okay reached 473/1450 on sheo R04 :D

[wary perch]

guys, how do i install mods for hk on my laptop, i wanna do pale court

[worthy peak]

?tag lumafly

[idle belfry]

Lumafly

Lumafly (formerly known as Scarab+) is a mod installer for 1.5 based on Scarab, but updated based on community feedback to fix problems that commonly occur in Scarab, as well as adding additional features.

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[wary perch]

oh, i cant do it on the current patch apparently

[opaque citrus]

yay all ascended finally

[worthy peak]

D:

[wary perch]

what would downpatching do?

[worthy peak]

Congrats. all 43 bosses ascended

[worthy peak]

Uhh make a minor amount of changes. Main one i can think of is inventory would no longer pause

and then in return mods :D

[opaque citrus]

asc markoth is easier than asc oblobbles

[elder abyss]

I can't believe the only radiant boss I'm missing is absrad

[worthy peak]

good luck

[elder abyss]

Wanna know who one of the hardest radiants was? Soul Tyrant!

[opaque citrus]

how exactly😭

its clearly oblobbles

[dapper mountain]

it was markoth.

[elder abyss]

Oblobbles actually pull their weight.

But souls tyrant was a pita to me.
Fights were long and a single mistake would get me killed

[opaque citrus]

we ALL can agree that rad pv is easy right

[dapper mountain]

yes i can

[bitter jolt]

its massive moss charger obviously

impossible boss

[summer cargo]

died to the path o pain gaubelt fahhhhhh

[worthy peak]

gruz mother never gets the respect she deserves

[safe stirrup]

going for 112% on my first run and the ||pantheon|| is sick ngl somehow did the first one first try

i will not be so lucky on the next im bad

[rustic salmon]

you got this!

[shrewd nymph]

'One of'

[rustic salmon]

im inclined to make a how hard to beat on rad tierlist

[shrewd nymph]

U should

[rustic salmon]

i had 1 at some point

but my ops prob changed

[shrewd nymph]

Would be funny if done from a personal pov instead of general

[safe stirrup]

you were right i did 2nd one first try also, these bosses are so much easier with upgrades

[shrewd nymph]

Personal or general

[rustic salmon]

personal more so

[shrewd nymph]

galien -> hard for me

[wind garnet]

marmu rng

[rustic salmon]

doing it on rad once is easy

[shrewd nymph]

@ greyfire @ levi

[wind garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1490427721153642669/1500185961861218415/ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[shrewd nymph]

Anika alt account

[rustic salmon]

also, also

idk

marmu has horrible physics, and i feel like most would agree

probably including greyfire

[rustic salmon]

you should amke 1 too

[shrewd nymph]

send link

[foggy sable]

true

it is

[rustic salmon]

galien isnt, but there really is no point in actually learning galien just to do him on radiant, you will prob get lucky enough in like 5 mins

[foggy sable]

galien is a quickslash victim

[rustic salmon]

if we talking rad consistency, ill have to mkae another list

maybe that1 would be more insteresting

[shrewd nymph]

fully rushed it

and i havent played in ages so probably some stupid things but

[foggy sable]

I wonder how many bosses I have a 99% winrate at

not many perhaps

[shrewd nymph]

if its in r5 probably a good amount

[foggy sable]

99 is a big number

[shrewd nymph]

because of scripted kills

and im half going off of those experiences

my pv is definitely bare minimum 99 though

[foggy sable]

given absrad is probably like 70% that drags the overall average down maybe

[zinc iris]

Is it worth overcharming heart for shell binding

[shrewd nymph]

no

[zinc iris]

Hi grey, Kondy

[foggy sable]

hi herb

[safe stirrup]

just died to the goat ||zote || on ||pantheon 3||

[rustic salmon]

hello

[shrewd nymph]

no way ur absrad is only 70%

[foggy sable]

don't overcharm for shell binding unless that is the challenge

[shrewd nymph]

that sounds low

[rustic salmon]

here is my consistency1

[shrewd nymph]

haha we share the markoth

[zinc iris]

Ok

[foggy sable]

markoth is probably 90%+ tbh

[shrewd nymph]

my markoth is probably like 70%

[zinc iris]

Is this AB?

[shrewd nymph]

radiant consistency

[rustic salmon]

no, me too bad for that

[shrewd nymph]

mine is above

[foggy sable]

I will make one perhaps

[zinc iris]

Didn't u just do p1-4 ab

[rustic salmon]

ill make an ab1 once i did p5ab

[rustic salmon]

well, yes, but like radiant consistency is very different

[zinc iris]

Surprised soul tyrant is high he's rlly consistent for me

[rustic salmon]

i havent got a single no hit ab markoth for example

[rustic salmon]

2nd phase he sometimes spawn orb into you

not really

[zinc iris]

My pv is rlly bad even he's my fav boss

[rustic salmon]

but it feels like

[zinc iris]

Cuz triple slash

[shrewd nymph]

shade dash

[rustic salmon]

how do you dodge triple?

[shrewd nymph]

jokes but valid for favourite boss

[foggy sable]

I'm excluding gruz mother and vfk because they don't count in p5

[zinc iris]

If I'm very close shade dash

[rustic salmon]

lol

[foggy sable]

because they are the first 2 and so low consistency

[shrewd nymph]

im like 50-50 shade dash and pogo for pv triple slash

[zinc iris]

Otherwise I try to jump and parry and usually fail

[shrewd nymph]

depends what difficulty

[rustic salmon]

if not ab, i feel like pogo is always better

[wind garnet]

💀

[shrewd nymph]

buh

[zinc iris]

[rustic salmon]

qs does wonders with the parry

[zinc iris]

I was doing charmless

[zealous skiff]

[zinc iris]

It was annoying
Mainly cuz I had to learn upslash for spikes

[raw sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1458507118524239946/1490665545677410394/togif-63-1.gif

[rustic salmon]

ye, idk, sometimes it autotriggers parry from lingering hitbox, and than you need to shade dash thru cause you swing isnt fast enough if you are close enough to parry

i couldnt have explained that worse

[foggy sable]

here is mine

[shrewd nymph]

surprised ur oblobbles and absrad are that high

[rustic salmon]

is absrad inconsistent cause pressure?

[foggy sable]

doing the maths it puts r5 winrate at like 10-20% or so depending on what absrad is

[raw sonnet]

What's this lost for

[foggy sable]

which is about accurate

[raw sonnet]

List*

[foggy sable]

and impatience

[shrewd nymph]

radiant

i wonder if my sly is 99 or 95

i feel like its 99 but that seems bold

[foggy sable]

sly I mistake the nail arts he is doing more often than I would like to say

[safe stirrup]

bruh zote is humbling me

[shrewd nymph]

you can just dash away and jump for both anyways

only time i get hit is cyclone tbh

[raw sonnet]

Radiant version of the bosses?

[foggy sable]

marmu and galien don't deserve to be on the list so

[shrewd nymph]

yes

[foggy sable]

they are excluded

[raw sonnet]

Rad Oblobbles and Rad abs my Biggest opps

.

[vestal vine]

So I'm trying to start to make a song for winged nosk. I think it's kinda unfair that we got a song for sisters of battle yet winged nosk is simply just the song for nosk (or haunted does in the pantheons). I've currently got the following instruments:

Flute
Bb clarinet
Bb bass clarinet
Tuba
Bass Drum
Hand Cymbals
Organ
Bass guitar
Female choir
Violinx2
Viola
Cello
And a contrabass

If anyone has any suggestions for any other instruments that fit the 'vibe' of the song, please inform me 😄

[bitter jolt]

@foggy sable @shrewd nymph

[honest shale]

@bitter jolt

[bitter jolt]

@honest shale

[honest shale]

hru

[foggy sable]

hiiii

[bitter jolt]

hi grey hru

[bitter jolt]

doing fine thx hbu

[honest shale]

pretty good

also thanks discord

[thorn ruin]

@honest shale @foggy sable gm

[bitter jolt]

you needed that space lol

[honest shale]

my screen was too full anyways

[bitter jolt]

oh yeah i got 1 hit ground today gleeful

[bitter jolt]

yeah exactly

[honest shale]

hello

[foggy sable]

good, hru

[foggy sable]

hii

[bitter jolt]

doing fine thx

[thorn ruin]

Forgot to say that I got another good attempt yesterday before the stream

But it wasn’t much better

[safe stirrup]

what are you attempting

[thorn ruin]

Radiant all bindings nail only PV

[bitter jolt]

you stream?

[thorn ruin]

I was streaming in vc yesterday

[bitter jolt]

ohhh

[rustic salmon]

when today?

[bitter jolt]

lol i thought you meant like on twitch or smth

[thorn ruin]

Idk prob not

[bitter jolt]

oh yeah grey i got a good climb today then i walked myself into the spikes at put myself at 1 mask 😭

[foggy sable]

Expected from anybad

What are you even running anyway? Ascended?

[bitter jolt]

baldur clear

ascended is way out of my skill range

[honest shale]

breaking news:
gamer forgot what practice is

[bitter jolt]

?

[honest shale]

its only out of your skill range bcs you arent doing it

just bcs you’re bad at it now doesnt mean it will stay that way

[bitter jolt]

you have no idea how muhc harder ascended is compared to attuned, ill definitely be doing overcharmed before then, and overcharmed 2.0 is harder than oc 3.0 ag

[worthy peak]

huh... is the claim asc oc is rougly the same as 3.0 no glitches then?

also @honest shale @bitter jolt @foggy sable hi people

[bitter jolt]

idk 3.0 glitchless hasn't been done and even when it is by either noaran or levi we still wouldn't know since they haven't done asc oc 2.0

[thorn ruin]

@worthy peak h

[bitter jolt]

hi strawberry hru

[worthy peak]

hiii

[worthy peak]

yes but i remember seeing estimations from fumbler and levi...

[thorn ruin]

Attempt from before the stream yesterday

[worthy peak]

and it put asc oc at same level as some form of attuned 3.0 im pretty sure

[bitter jolt]

ahk

im not good enough to make judgements

[worthy peak]

good, hru

[worthy peak]

hru?

[thorn ruin]

Good hbu

[bitter jolt]

honestly i dont think justin and levi know enough about 3.0 and 2.0 respectively to be able to give anything more than a very rough estimate but they're gonna give the best estimate we can get lol

[worthy peak]

good :D

[honest shale]

hi person

[worthy peak]

hru?

[bitter jolt]

doing fine thx, got 1 hit ground today

[honest shale]

i am good

[worthy peak]

🔥

[bitter jolt]

and hitless for half of plats, before fumbling all my hp

😭

[honest shale]

hbu

[worthy peak]

I am good today :D

[foggy sable]

hiiii

[worthy peak]

hru?

[shrewd nymph]

looks great

[thorn ruin]

Thx

[worthy peak]

@thorn cobalt hiii

[foggy sable]

I'm good, how are things

[wild sierra]

Fish

[bitter jolt]

hi lune gleeful

[wild sierra]

It’s 4 😔

[shrewd nymph]

rando getting pinged 😭

[wild sierra]

I want more sleep

[worthy peak]

good

[wild sierra]

Hi

[honest shale]

then get more sleep

[wild sierra]

Hm

Interesting

[toxic basin]

I can't get enough sleep

[honest shale]

rip

[naive dew]

@shrewd nymph @foggy sable

[foggy sable]

hiiiii

[zealous skiff]

@naive dew im bored

[honest shale]

do smth then

or just stay bored

[copper spruce]

I hate burnout, now my research is lost media

[honest shale]

rip

[storm flax]

@zealous skiff @foggy sable @shrewd nymph

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiiii hruu

[storm flax]

Goooood hruuu

[foggy sable]

I'm good!!

[zealous skiff]

@storm flax

[compact wasp]

damn only 3 bosses left now

until p5ab

anyways, how is everyone

[frozen storm]

I'm doing pretty good

I've heard temperatures will drop drastically in my country

How about you

[honest shale]

have you ever heard of “winter”?

[frozen storm]

From 35 ish to 6

In like

3 days or so

[frozen storm]

Also hi hyd

[honest shale]

holy shit

[honest shale]

im good hbu

[frozen storm]

Good too

[frozen storm]

Why is there someone on top of a cello

[silk hornet]

hi gri- i mean nondescript can of soda

[honest shale]

i forget why i unblocked you

[silk hornet]

as per nightmare king's orders

[honest shale]

and now i regret it

[hallow mango]

Hi yall

[silk hornet]

complete the ritual...block and unblock me 2 more times...

[frozen storm]

Helio

[wary perch]

guys what are some good hk mods?

or funny

[cobalt linden]

Architect (trust me I'm not biased)

(Ignore the name)

[wary perch]

i installed pale court to try but havent beaten white defender yet

hes so fast

[raw sonnet]

Path of pv

Popv

[wary perch]

should i try hollowpoint?

lmao

[frozen storm]

Yes, but try AIKG first

look for Inferno King Grimm

On lumafly

I genuinely recommend sharp shooter and dash master

[raw sonnet]

Or ck

[frozen storm]

Not as a joke

[wary perch]

what does aikg do

[raw sonnet]

Stronger version of nkg

[frozen storm]

Nkg but actually good

[wary perch]

i havent even beat tmg 😭

i was gonna and then my bf went on my save and killed him....

[honest shale]

why are you looking for mods

[frozen storm]

Kill him

[wary perch]

cuz i was curious

[frozen storm]

No one shall interfere with canon events

[wary perch]

ive already beaten the game albeit havent beaten radiance or pantheons

[ashen ginkgo]

A double bass
And because it’s the living end

The band

The guy on top is the guitarist and lead singer

[frozen storm]

From my POV that looks like a cello

[wary perch]

how does the double bass not break 😭

idk how strong instruments are cuz imnot a musician

[ashen ginkgo]

It’s a double bass

[frozen storm]

The singer probably weights 3 kilos

[wary perch]

although my classmates said i look like a pianist or violinist, got the hands or smth

[frozen storm]

My hands are comically huge, I think I'd do great as a pianist

[ashen ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/jazz-double-bass-bassist-gif-3459395852337941306

It works cause the instrument is fucking huge

[wary perch]

oh right

i forgot a double bass is bigger than i am lmao

wtf is that guy doing to it tho

[frozen storm]

What the

[frozen storm]

Playing it

[ashen ginkgo]

Double bass
Not cello

[frozen storm]

I think

[honest shale]

how does the guy not break

[wary perch]

why is he treating it like a guitar 😭

im not a musician but im pretty sure thats not how its plyed 😭

[frozen storm]

Okay okay, don't blame me for being orchestra minded

[ashen ginkgo]

Skill and strength
How does the bassist of the living end lift one of those things above his head onto his shoulder and play it upside down

They’re not like
Young

[wary perch]

[umbral night]

Insert ddark ragebait message

[ashen ginkgo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9OIhu6INws0?si=P6lyldilDT-Qne9h they’ve been doing this trick for a while it seems
This isn’t the show I’m at this was a year ago

[frozen storm]

This is cool

[honest shale]

why are you dying to bosses? Just use descending dark. Descending dark gives you iframes and it does a lot of damage. Stop dying to video game bosses and use descending dark

[umbral night]

[ashen ginkgo]

Incorrect
Not enough emojis

[honest shale]

i forgot what they were so i didnt put them

[frozen storm]

The violin he's holding is sick

[ashen ginkgo]

I’m going to throw you

[frozen storm]

Throw out?

[umbral night]

123

[frozen storm]

@mads

[honest shale]

@yeetin321

[broken heart]

i feel so proud of myself, js beat NKG

THEN beat radiant grimm

THEN tried to beat the radiance and got fired

*fried

[elder abyss]

normal experience
absrad is actually the only radiant I have left!

[broken heart]

nice, i cant beat normal radiance tho, holy shit the tankiness

atp imma just equip unbreakable heart jonis blessing and unbreakable strength n just PRAY

[frozen storm]

I'll probably get radabsrad very soon

[storm bolt]

shriek spam with shaman melts her

[frozen storm]

Then I'll need half of the hall of gods

[broken heart]

i'd do that but my radiance (well pale king) HATES ME AND USES THE MOVES THAT FORCE ME TO MOVE AWAY FROM THEM

[frozen storm]

I don't really care about radhog

[honest shale]

why do you have 5 videos and yet 3 times the subs that i have

[frozen storm]

This channel is OLD

I went through a LOT of different content

[honest shale]

And most of it was privated or deleted?

[broken heart]

sigh im at 104 percent realizing im gonna have to fight nosk..and GO TO DEEPNEST NOOOO

[frozen storm]

Deleted

[broken heart]

IM SICK OF DEEPNEST DUE TO WEAVERSONG AGHHH

[storm bolt]

deepnest is kinda chill tbh

[honest shale]

i see

[umbral night]

Did you do the miserable shade skip there or something

[broken heart]

yeah..

[umbral night]

Oof

[broken heart]

atleast i havent found bile water

[umbral night]

Haven't played sk

[inner dune]

Hollow Knight Enemy HP Bar mod

[nocturne spindle]

is it normal to feel radiant grim is easier then no eyes ascended cuz no eyes so fucking hard even on ascended somehow

[frozen storm]

Do it

[compact wasp]

yes

[frozen storm]

SK is AMAZING

[broken heart]

cant tell you havent fought no eyes

[compact wasp]

because grim is highly consistent

[umbral night]

No money bro, that's one thing
I'll buy it after p5 at least

[honest shale]

eh it was ok i guess

[frozen storm]

Stop being a contrarian

[broken heart]

ummu dance if you love being rng based! ummu:

[honest shale]

deadass my opinion

[storm bolt]

I prefer hk tbh

[broken heart]

https://giphy.com/gifs/126bpm-dancingatclub-ujTVMASREzuRbH6zy5

[frozen storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773932106052665424/1466212251085049917/dwarf_do_not_care.gif

[honest shale]

?tag permpsa

[idle belfry]

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[broken heart]

hk's better only bc bilewater doesnt exist in it

[frozen storm]

Me too

[broken heart]

from what i've seen its js

[storm bolt]

Sk combat doesn't feel as smooth

[frozen storm]

Stop with the spoilers

[broken heart]

sorry sir

[storm bolt]

And bilewater is pretty cool lore wise

[compact wasp]

i wish spells wind up didn't exist in silksong

[honest shale]

anything but stopping the ragebait for 5 seconds

[broken heart]

tbh i love silksongs movement but oh my god the fudging combat..

[frozen storm]

You're supposed to do the same

[storm bolt]

At least the circlet is fun to use

[honest shale]

IS THAT A FUCKING SWEAR WORD @mids GET THIS GUY

[broken heart]

me forgetting

oh my god

shhh

that didnt exist

[frozen storm]

@muds

@meds

@mosd

[broken heart]

im NOT excited to fight soul tyrant

he is NOT fun to fight

[golden glacier]

Chat is it lowkey normal to wish death upon zote bcs of the gpz fights

I am struggling on the5th one rn

[empty lynx]

Debatable
Iam assuming he isn't for you
What for?

[empty lynx]

Typical

[broken heart]

yes it is...so much i have ptsd when i hear AGHHH NANIBAHHH!

[compact wasp]

yes.

[golden glacier]

I KEEP DYING TO HIS WALK

[frozen storm]

Good afternoon

Hyd?

[golden glacier]

HIS GOD DANG WALK

[broken heart]

idk hes so tedious when it comes to his patterns, and his circle thing, but i rlly hate the feints he does

[golden glacier]

Just feint his feint

[empty lynx]

Amazing i beat goumang nine sols with friends who were laughing and getting ragebaited by me

[broken heart]

how tf do yall non acoustic people feint a feint..

[empty lynx]

Circle? Do you have shade cloak?

[frozen storm]

Great to hear, did you fix your sleep schedule yet?

[broken heart]

yes, but with autisim me do funny fumble

[golden glacier]

I just do a small jump first

[honest shale]

…what the hell did you just say?

[empty lynx]

Nuh

[frozen storm]

Rip

I got qualified for phase 2 of the math olimpics

[shrewd nymph]

Congrats

[golden glacier]

After which i fall if its a feint and do the double jump

[frozen storm]

What the fuck was that luri

[empty lynx]

Nine slops

[frozen storm]

Thanks, hello

[frozen storm]

19 idiots on a vc
What could possibly go wrong

[empty lynx]

2 in a 4 people vc actually

they were crashing out so bad 😭

I was so clueless

[frozen storm]

Generally my friend's vcs are just chaos

[empty lynx]

I love group vc's so much

[golden glacier]

Chat is there anything besides uh zote and white defender

That dosent count towards game completion

[frozen storm]

Me too

[honest shale]

Yes

[frozen storm]

Pantheon of Hallownest

[golden glacier]

No im looking for stuff before p4

Im at 111% rn

[sour flax]

I thinkthe godhome bosses dont give completion

[frozen storm]

Seer ascension

[sour flax]

not 100% sure

[golden glacier]

That counts for game completion

[frozen storm]

Exactly

[golden glacier]

What?

[frozen storm]

I'm trying to help you find the last %

[golden glacier]

No no my last % is p4

[frozen storm]

Oh

[golden glacier]

Im asking for stuff i can do before that

Like beating white defender 5 times

Or the zote statue

[honest shale]

You could beat vegefly king in greenpath

that boss isnt a percent

neither are any dream bosses besides nkg

[golden glacier]

The zote one?

[golden glacier]

Ive done all that

[sour flax]

wouldnt it be gone assuming he didnt save zote

[golden glacier]

I am fighting gpz rn

[sour flax]

but he said smth about gpz

[golden glacier]

I did save him

[sour flax]

o

[golden glacier]

I think im mostly done with everything after gpz and white defender

[tawdry bolt]

Deliver flowers to npcs

[golden glacier]

I already did the quest tho

[ornate kernel]

all 4 ig

[ornate kernel]

go back to the grave

[tawdry bolt]

Not the quest, you can deliver to other npcs

[ripe panther]

do fragile charms get broken if they arent equipped?

[honest shale]

you can give a flower to elderbug, oro and godseeker

[golden glacier]

What

[ornate kernel]

they break if you die witht them equipped

[ornate kernel]

u can get the flower from the grave again after finishing it

[small void]

No

[golden glacier]

Wait fr?

It didnt give me that option when i delivered it

To like pick them up

[ornate kernel]

you need to reenter

[ripe panther]

okay ty

[ornate kernel]

or i think accept the reward first

only possibel for 4 npcs from what i know

[broken heart]

so annoyed rn certain mods dont work on silksong

due to a update

well most mods

[ashen ginkgo]

No silksong spoilers in this channel go to one of the silksong channels

[jolly grail]

Guys I just did plat with 64h

[broken heart]

weird i dont see a sk general/disccusion channel

[celest vigil]

dude uumuu is the worst boss in all of gaming history, its literally just a waiting game 🥀

[honest shale]

<@&283547423706447872>

[honest shale]

here #sk-discussion

[wary perch]

guys has anyone here played papa louie before?

cuz hk lowk reminds me of it a lil

[sick heath]

Surely nothing bad could happen to a Hunter with 1 hp

[agile pewter]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDN6JltbQAQiK_2.gif

[wary perch]

[sour flax]

crush his skull

[honest shale]

this is potentially the stupidest thing you’ve done
Six sevening a bot

[agile pewter]

@shrewd meadow mods ping isnt working againn

[storm flax]

@digital abyss fren.

[digital abyss]

gm

[storm flax]

Gm Leah from hit location ojb’s house

[magic glacier]

burning that place

[storm flax]

:( mean

[magic glacier]

is it? sorry i thought it was normal

[honest shale]

that sounds illegal i think

[compact wasp]

hoi hoi everyone

[rough osprey]

Howdly doodlely

[thick tiger]

what modder should i download for jk already?

[red jungle]

tuff

[vestal sky]

hi ojb i js finished last dive in vivid/stasis you were right this game is cinema

[sick heath]

I love having -2 speed

[formal ridge]

are you moving the other way every time

[wind garnet]

the pink one dies 🗣️

[sick heath]

sadly not, technically you cant move less then 1 space unless you have some sort of slowness debuff😔

[formal ridge]

damn

[proud haven]

Hi hk people

[sick heath]

Hello Coolerest Connor

[bold rose]

Hello

[sick heath]

oh nice their speed went up by one

now its -1

[fickle wraith]

i love fortnite :)

[haughty edge]

[honest shale]

it has been so long since i saw you here

[red jungle]

sup

[proud haven]

W fortnite

[proud haven]

Hi super hero

[fleet wadi]

my computer just crashed during pantheon 5

[shrewd meadow]

@wind garnet souscar

[fleet wadi]

i'm sad now

20 minutes wasted

[proud haven]

at least you weren't super far in

Or are you some sort of speedrunner

[fleet wadi]

i was at marmu

[ornate kernel]

ToT

[proud haven]

based yeah at least you weren't super far in when it crashed

[fleet wadi]

so not even half way

but still

i was expecting to die to the radiance

[proud haven]

Yeah still obnoxious and sad

[fleet wadi]

but i at least wanted to get to the fucking radiance

lol

i haven't gotten there yet

all i can do is keep trying

cause i need it to appear in hall of gods

[ornate kernel]

at least you have the motivation

and patience 😭

[fading lodge]

i am so happy, i finally made the 112%

[red jungle]

ggs

[fading lodge]

[fleet wadi]

yea i've been practicing nkg for 2 hours

[red jungle]

i somehow beat p5 on the luckiest run ever in a vc with my friend

[fleet wadi]

i was just going to get as far as i could

last time i died to failed champion after markoth

[shrewd meadow]

no gpz = fake p5 tbh

this is the one hill I will die on and continue to be elitist for

[storm flax]

@digital abyss You know what I’m doing, I know what I’m doing :3

[rare aurora]

is it though

[sweet blaze]

it's not elitist smh

[shrewd nymph]

yup

[sweet blaze]

it's just true

[rare aurora]

the one hill?

[sweet blaze]

yes

[shrewd nymph]

ok the one hill might be off

but the hill itself is very good

[sweet blaze]

the main hill

in fact i have the whole copypasta saved

one sec

[lapis musk]

of course you have

gpz topics

[sweet blaze]

text wall warning

sharp inhale

Due to the fact you have decided in favor of excluding the boss named "Grey Prince Zote" from your "Pantheon of Hallownest" completion, I am of the opinion that you are in fact of a lesser quality of homosapien that those who decided in favor of including "Grey Prince Zote" in their "Pantheon of Hallownest" completion. Deciding in favor of an easier form of the "Pantheon of Hallownest" demonstrates to me that, for lack of a better word, a "quitter". Any persons who would decide in favor of attempting this great challenge, whom many people take pride in attempting and completing, yet decides in favor of the easier form of it sullies the achievement of those who have done it in it's harder form. If someone were to do this without knowledge or purpose, It would not reduce my opinion of their character as it is simply a tragic error. However to purposefully and with full knowledge of it's consequences exclude the boss named "Grey Prince Zote" decreasing the difficulty of their "Pantheon of Hallownest" completion, I would simply be unable to demonstrate any respect to the person(s) whom commit such an act. The boss names "Grey Prince Zote" is, according to many persons in this community, one of the hardest bosses to properly learn and the choice to omit him with purpose and full knowledge of the consequences because it is "too much effort to learn" makes you a lesser example of the Homosapien Species, I do hope that you learn from your mistakes and choose in favor of including the boss named "Grey Prince Zote" in your future attempts at a "Pantheon of Hallownest" completion.

[foggy sable]

looks like my trying to fill out a word count

[sweet blaze]

the typos uhm, are entirely intentional

in true spirit of zote, really

[fading lodge]

nkg ascended

[sweet blaze]

gg

[proud haven]

Hi fiablo

[sweet blaze]

hi connor hru

how's japan going for her

[proud haven]

I am good but sad as I just sent the love of my life away for two weeks like an hour ago

[shrewd nymph]

@foggy sable do my eyes deceive m e

[agile pewter]

Cringe

[proud haven]

She's not in japan yet sadly

[sweet blaze]

ok lemon

[foggy sable]

hm?

[sweet blaze]

ohk i thought she was already there

[shrewd nymph]

aint no cross reaction should be there

[foggy sable]

it should

[proud haven]

Nah she's heading to a hotel and tomorrow is airport + 14 hour flight then two weeks

[sweet blaze]

ic

[honest shale]

wise words from leonhk
known slop and cringe poster

[agile pewter]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDN6JltbQAQiK_2.gif

[sweet blaze]

right, flight from us would be suuper long

ok lemon

[delicate coral]

@honest shale @shrewd nymph

[sweet blaze]

@fading idol can we ban lemon pls ty

[honest shale]

who are you?

[delicate coral]

good question

hi grey

[formal ridge]

thorns!!!!

[foggy sable]

if someone is talking about their difficulties in p5 and you go "fake p5" that makes you elitist, wrong (imo), and a bit of a prick

[shrewd nymph]

theres a difference between it being fake and going out of my way to discredit it for being fake

because it is fake but idc enough to correct people beating it

its (1) an optional challenge and (2) godseeker mode removes the excuse of having killed him unintentionally so yeah guh

[sweet blaze]

if they're talking about their difficulties in p5 i'll help them with difficulties

if they say they're doing p5 without gpz i'll call them unbased and cringe cuz im the gpz guy yk

if they say p5 without gpz is equally valid then i will call them

[sour flax]

wait what does godseeker mode do again

besides giving you all charms

[formal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694394891584667683/1365845428305793084/IMG_20250415_131019.gif

[shrewd nymph]

full gear, all bosses in HoG except absrad

[sweet blaze]

which is silly cuz you get it right after p3 but it unlocks pv

[shrewd nymph]

yeah idk should be after p1-4 but eh

[delicate coral]

is charmless radhog good enough practice for ab? im working my way thru it bc im lazy and cba to make an ab file

[sweet blaze]

non

[foggy sable]

the context of the original comment, if you bothered reading it, the entire comment was just being rude for no reason

[sweet blaze]

if you wanna do p5ab it's less effort to create an ab simulation file

[foggy sable]

it was just to discredit what someone was doing

[sweet blaze]

ok but that's just throwo

[shrewd nymph]

my name aint orange twin

i agreed with the statement and JUST said idc enough to correct people

of which i quite literally didnt do guh

[honest shale]

[foggy sable]

illiterate as well

you asked why the x

[formal ridge]

mrrrrowww

[shrewd nymph]

yes because the statement

the x doesnt really indicate the statement is right but not needed

[sweet blaze]

the statement in isolation i consider true

[foggy sable]

the statement is both wrong and does not exist in a vacuum

[shrewd nymph]

buh

[sweet blaze]

regardless of whether it was rude to say there

[shrewd nymph]

i dont get paid enough for ts

[formal ridge]

wait whats going on

[sweet blaze]

i dont consider the statement wrong so

[sour flax]

are we talking about the mod

[delicate coral]

someone capable of doing gpzless p5 can most likely easily do p5 after... just saying

[shrewd nymph]

which is why they should

[delicate coral]

its not like its ab gpz

[foggy sable]

and the relating conversation after

[formal ridge]

also is this statement meant to be agreeable

[sour flax]

why does gray bum zote matter 🤔

[honest shale]

throwout no longer has a name

[sour flax]

yes

[shrewd nymph]

because its a boss and p5 consists of bosses

[formal ridge]

i mean

[foggy sable]

the entire point of the comment was to diminish someones struggles in p5

[sour flax]

its 1 boss it cant be THAT bad

[formal ridge]

ah

[shrewd nymph]

its not

[foggy sable]

and it exists in that context which is what I was saying

[shrewd nymph]

which is why its better to just do it normally anyways

[sour flax]

wait does godseeker give you the hunters journal? if yes is it filled out or no

[shrewd nymph]

it does not

[sour flax]

i have a goofy idea if i ever unlock godseeker mode

god damn it

[shrewd nymph]

godseeker is just godhome stuff

[bitter jolt]

it can be, because markoth into gpz is extremely difficult for some players

[delicate coral]

gpz-less p5 is still hard, they're not all that different difficulty wise. i agree it's rude to downplay it especially when someone is really proud of their achievement but i also agree that they could have just done p5 w gpz

[sour flax]

no im referring to the fact that gpz not being there was an issue

[formal ridge]

the hk fandom MAY just be the most anti beginner fandom

[shrewd nymph]

souls

[formal ridge]

prolly

silksongs even worse with it

[sour flax]

not defending zote i would never do that 😭 literally the only thing that was making me regret saving him was bretta's existence

[formal ridge]

but i cant mention that lest the evil strike me down

[delicate coral]

tbh if you are doing p5 youre not a beginner as such

[bitter jolt]

ohhh then yea

[formal ridge]

still

[shrewd nymph]

i mean yeah thats the whole point

[delicate coral]

yeah ikwym

[shrewd nymph]

p5 is an optional post game challenge

cutting corners is pointless

[formal ridge]

someone who finally does p5 doesnt need dipshit27 who beat every pantheon blind to tell them how little that matters

[shrewd nymph]

i dont think anyone really disagrees with this

[sour flax]

wait im assuming you cant do eternal ordeal if you leave him to die

[formal ridge]

agreeable statement

[sour flax]

you forgot to add all bindings on radiant

[formal ridge]

true

[sour flax]

and with 1 arm and said arm has like 2 fingers

[bitter jolt]

the thing is some of the actually good players are really chill

[delicate coral]

you forgot itemless

[sour flax]

whats that

[sweet blaze]

it's so unfortunate that gpz has to be optional eugh

[shrewd nymph]

lil bit redundant

[sweet blaze]

just have zote revive himself through the power of the precepts

[delicate coral]

itemless gotta count for smth

[formal ridge]

through sheer will and determination

[shrewd nymph]

ionws = i