#hk-discussion

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formal furnace
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it helps u in tight situations when there is alot of enemies

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plus with the obby

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when there r flying enemies, it help u not having to worry much about the surrounding

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it saved me many times during my obby

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or at the water tunnel, when i cant fight while swimming

molten yoke
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Interesting

formal furnace
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but maybe dont use it in the electric bubble place

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with the jellyfish

bold belfry
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LETS FUCKING GOO!!!! I BEAT NKG!!!!!!!!!!

formal furnace
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i hate the sounds of the worm in hollow knight

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in the water tunnel map

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its so like, creepy and disgusting

remote elbow
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It was at this moment i realised how fucked i was

bold belfry
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hello? i just beat nkg and no1 cares?

remote elbow
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Dang

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Im sorry bro

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Didnt see your message

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Thats awsome

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Hes so fucking hard

bold belfry
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its good

bold belfry
remote elbow
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Im doing colo3 to avoid doing nkg even thoigh i absolutely love him i die very quickly so yeah

bold belfry
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lol

remote elbow
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Hes absolutely perfect and id beat up anyone who doesnt like nkg

bold belfry
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should i get debug on my mods and eaisaly just get a shit tuna geo in colos 2?

wanton loom
bold belfry
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iv alr beating it tho

remote elbow
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Hes so good infact he makes tmg a 10/10 boss and my 2nd favorite look like a 3/10 nkg is like a 11/10

bold belfry
remote elbow
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Hes so good he ruined the tmg theme wich i hsed to prefer

wanton loom
remote elbow
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He does double

bold belfry
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ofc

remote elbow
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He is redicoulusly insanely hard

wanton loom
remote elbow
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Its no damage right ?

bold belfry
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yh u cant get hit

wanton loom
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yea

bold belfry
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im just like wtf

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how?

wanton loom
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i mean really it’s patience and learning when to punish

dry creek
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he becomes predictable after a while

wanton loom
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it’s like a dance

dry creek
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yeah exactly

wanton loom
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you wait for him to come to you

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or on like 2 attacks you go to him

remote elbow
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Bro ima go to him rq and show you how quickly i die how did you do him radiant

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Like im genuinely mind blown hes the best boss in the game in my opinion and idc about the difficulty but still

wanton loom
remote elbow
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I have like 10 to 15 attemps and i didnt last long in any of them died in the first 30 seconds

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Screw thr coloseum of fools

wanton loom
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when I first fought him bro I like didn’t think I could beat him cuz the attacks were so fast it took me a good 35 attempts

dry creek
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took me like 2 days periodically playing every day

remote elbow
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I think i can beat him just by how redicoulusly good he is

wanton loom
dry creek
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lol real

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im obsessed with it again

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im always thinking about it

wanton loom
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wait so why have you only done aschog

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you need to lock in

remote elbow
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Im glad hes hsrd cuz tmg took me 1 afternoon and i was a but sad when j defeated him cuz i wanted to fight him longer cuz hes so fucking good

dry creek
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that i obsessed over tha game again

wanton loom
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and that’s when I was doing my last radiants

dry creek
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ngl im busy with school so

wanton loom
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I see

remote elbow
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The only bosses i think i can do hitless is hornet v1 false knight and thk ( mostly cuz i did him healess and speedran him one time)

wanton loom
remote elbow
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Wdym

wanton loom
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even then he’s super slow

dry creek
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thk is an excellent boss imo

remote elbow
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Hes alr

remote elbow
dry creek
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sets a great mood

wanton loom
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maybe I’m just blinded by pure vessel but

remote elbow
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Lore wise hes excellent but his attacks are mid his theme is pretty good but not tmg or nkg level

dry creek
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their theme is awesome imo

wanton loom
dry creek
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nkg and tmg are so glazed soundtrack wise lol

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what about city of tears

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city of tears is so gorgeous

wispy sky
remote elbow
wanton loom
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dirtmouth ❤️

dry creek
remote elbow
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The sound track is so fucking good

dry creek
wispy sky
dry creek
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yeah

remote elbow
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Nah

raw sonnet
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Yo

wanton loom
wispy sky
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reflection is mid

dry creek
remote elbow
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Nkg is so good especially his theme that he makes tmg look bad

wispy sky
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hot take

dry creek
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which one is that

dry creek
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troupe master grimm

remote elbow
wanton loom
raw sonnet
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Oh

remote elbow
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One of the best bosses in the game

wanton loom
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he’s too slow for me

raw sonnet
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I dont think nkg boss is that good

wanton loom
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nkg makes it feel much more yk

dry creek
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nkg is below tmg on my tierlist atp lol

wispy sky
dry creek
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i adore tmg mainly because of how good the vibes are

raw sonnet
remote elbow
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I feel like the theme in tmg starts at 0 and goes to 100 for nkg it starts at 100 and its so fucking peak

dry creek
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i like city of tears. calm music is great too, just saying.

fickle wraith
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@cold abyss @quartz cave hello friends.

remote elbow
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Im in shock rn cuz i havent fought him in 2 days and im like omg hes so fucking insanely fun

dry creek
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anyways bye

fickle wraith
fresh isle
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shut up

wanton loom
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ouch

fickle wraith
fresh isle
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for fun

fickle wraith
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say sorry or i leak every dm ever.

remote elbow
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Nkg is so redicoulusly insanly mindblowingly fun and good that idc about his difficulty

wanton loom
fickle wraith
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nkg is like a dance :)

wanton loom
fickle wraith
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makes sense a lot of people say that

wanton loom
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I guess it’s true

remote elbow
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If you haven't done nkg or tmg your missing out so fucking much nkg is the definition of peak

wanton loom
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W Nintendo switch recording

remote elbow
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Thanks

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Whoever made this theme needs an oscar a grammy and every music award there is this is so fucking peak

wanton loom
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anyway here’s my progress on pure vessel radiant
I need to really learn this fight more

remote elbow
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Why on earth are you using the markoth shield charm

wanton loom
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more damage

remote elbow
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Its garbage

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Nail arts ?

wanton loom
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nail arts too slow for this fight

remote elbow
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Unbreakable strengh

remote elbow
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Also is it faster then nkg

wanton loom
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I’m running unbreak strength quick slash shaman stone steady body and dream shield

remote elbow
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Why do you need steady body

wanton loom
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I hate getting hit backwards when I attack

remote elbow
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Its practically useless

wanton loom
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and I can put it on since I’ll overcharm anyway

remote elbow
wanton loom
fresh isle
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steady body is fine

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sigh

wanton loom
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i like to know ima be in the same spot

wanton loom
fresh isle
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dream shield doesn't do much though i would maybe recommend somethiing else

wanton loom
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maybe

fresh isle
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it does ur base nail damage (not including the buff that strength does)

wanton loom
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idk what else the other notches would be used for

remote elbow
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Its only decently usefull when you hit him and your in between the spikes ( idk if thats one of his attacks) but like when you have a tight window or soemthing idk

remote elbow
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I tried it and it made me worse

fickle wraith
remote elbow
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Im used to recoil and use it to my advantage its better to not use steady boddy cuz then you will rely on it to much

fresh isle
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oh pv rad speedruns
yea dreamshields fine lol

naive dew
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hii elokik

fresh isle
remote elbow
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Ima go test it out on nkg to see if its usefull or not

wanton loom
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I thought it would be
either that or I’m just following wha I’ve seen everyone else use

fresh isle
remote elbow
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Nah

fresh isle
fresh isle
wanton loom
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suscat basically taught me a lot about the fight

fresh isle
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ahh

wanton loom
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idk how that guy does it bro

remote elbow
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Its useless againts ummu for the hollow knight its slightly usefull but not really for the watcher knights its useless and well hhe only reason id ever use it its if there was a microscopic platform for youto be on or the boss spawns an outrageous amounts of spikes from the floor that go up like with thk

fresh isle
naive dew
fresh isle
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im tiredd

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hru

quasi forge
naive dew
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im doing pretty decent but r5 is kinda borinbg

wanton loom
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according to him

fickle wraith
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im a woke larper

fresh isle
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and

remote elbow
fresh isle
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the original title was "until i get a girlfriend"

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and then he added the last part lol

wanton loom
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he might need to take a break from pv

wanton loom
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maybe

quasi forge
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I'm contempt? And then it's your favorite?

remote elbow
remote elbow
fresh isle
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3

remote elbow
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Ah

quasi forge
dry creek
quasi forge
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Contempt doesn't mean you like it

inner flicker
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If I manage to fail the speed completion achievement (100% in <20 hours) I’m just gonna use the guide I found

remote elbow
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I mean i dont wanna waste one notch to hit slightly faster i like jt the way i have it now

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Wich means without it

inner flicker
remote elbow
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No

wanton loom
remote elbow
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I dont use it

inner flicker
remote elbow
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I get lost sometimes but idc

inner flicker
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P5 with wayward compass gathering swarm and greed

remote elbow
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Ok

inner flicker
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Oh and can’t forget heavy blow

dry creek
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frr

remote elbow
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I tried steady bodyi think its useless and i tried dream shield and its also useless

burnt horizon
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Mmm
Radiant radiance
The pain my eyes flashed when I died as she teleport immediately to the middle..

inner flicker
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Oh wait

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Second phase start

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That sucks

burnt horizon
# inner flicker Second phase start

Nope in the last phase if absolute radiance teleports immediately to the middle after teleporting already that means she was one shot away from death

burnt horizon
wanton loom
burnt horizon
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Witch craft

wanton loom
inner flicker
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It happened once and never again

worthy peak
fresh isle
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it happens if the sword spawns the same frame as you leave, or something like that idk

burnt horizon
fickle wraith
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i miss when i had my account called elokers

burnt horizon
inner flicker
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If I do radiant absolute radiance no charms I’ll be ready for P5ab

foggy sable
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it was a good match

inner flicker
worthy peak
burnt horizon
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The no soul is the worst part of this

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Just 33...

wanton loom
inner flicker
burnt horizon
foggy sable
inner flicker
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Wait

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Lmao

foggy sable
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even with lifeblood

burnt horizon
# tropic nest not quite

Imo the worst thing about all bindings is like no soul
The no charms just makes
All the fights longer but thats mostly it

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No soul makes only 4 hp shit

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So either preserve your lifeblood or get shot

inner flicker
burnt horizon
foggy sable
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the hardest part is charms by far

frozen storm
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Charms enhance your strength a lot

burnt horizon
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Lets be fr
You fighting abs rad with no charms is easier than fighting her with the risk of being 2 shot with no way to heal

autumn ice
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if i play 3 bindings with charms enabled qf and heart have already entered my build

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dps who cares just dont die

foggy sable
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I'd run maybe qf, heart, str, MoP if I weren't to overcharm and cared about survival

burnt horizon
autumn ice
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well good thing charms can fix both of those issues

burnt horizon
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So you really have to no hit so many bosses to keep your lifeblood for the big 3

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And I have
Zote...

foggy sable
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charms are a toolkit pick ones good for the situation

burnt horizon
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Hot take markoth is easy tho

wanton loom
autumn ice
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yeah if you just 0 brainpower slam str qs shaman sbody nmg then yeah it's not that helpful

foggy sable
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str to one shot zote minions, heart to get 6 hp

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maybe nmg is worth putting in

autumn ice
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but no one is forcing you to do that

burnt horizon
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He will die quickly

burnt horizon
inner flicker
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The way I see it is
If I can consistently do P1-P4ab, radiant the bosses that change while restraining myself consistently, and practice tf out of absrad, I can do P5ab
But we will see

burnt horizon
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NOT THE HOMING MISSLE

inner flicker
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Ok bye

foggy sable
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honestly in 3 bindings soul eater has utility

autumn ice
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i believe it

foggy sable
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to be able to cast every 2 hits

burnt horizon
burnt horizon
autumn ice
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also i've come around to hating on radiant to practice bosses for challenges that don't require you to do them hitless

proven warren
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112% in 16 hours :D

autumn ice
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it baits people into setting wrong priorities when fighting the bosses

foggy sable
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when I did p5ab I didn't know how to heal in fights

autumn ice
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if you do it to spice up your boss practice sure

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but you gotta be aware that it's got issues

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my favorite recommednation is asc winstreaks

fresh isle
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learning heal spots is really important yea

autumn ice
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still forces healing/recovering sometimes, requires consistency, has the aspect where you're fighting a harder version of the boss so the panth version feels easier, and helps you deal with nerves when you're on a good streak

molten forge
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feel like when someone takes one hit they can take multiple right in a row

autumn ice
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yeah that's the other thing

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being hit will often put you in situations that you simply will never be in if you only play radiant

foggy sable
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wait unnamed have I told you I came back to a challenge I started like 5 months ago and finished it in about 3 days

autumn ice
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no

foggy sable
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the hardest marmu challenge that doesn't do something like restrict directions

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and it was so, so bad and terrible

molten forge
autumn ice
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my money's on yes

foggy sable
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not anymore now it is done

autumn ice
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but ggs

foggy sable
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there are no more challenges left for that boss so maybe it is freedom

tight mesa
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What if you added more marmus

foggy sable
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seems like effort to add

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and after all that I can say marmu is a bad rng fight

molten forge
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main problem i have about marmu is just the anti knockback iframes it gets when hitting the floor

foggy sable
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there are so many oddities in the fight

molten forge
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defintely I can see that, i just have specfic trauma from knockback iframes for hitless lol

foggy sable
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well it started like 5 days ago now when I went back to running r5ab and lost the first attempt to marmu

autumn ice
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i am so glad that you don't really interact with this boss in r5

molten forge
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its nice

foggy sable
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also I know lots of people have done itemless marmu but idk about 1 nail damage

molten forge
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i wanted to try r5ab but it takes such a long time, it feels like my soul is slowly being drawn out of my body lol

naive dew
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@foggy sable

autumn ice
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any rs4ab clueless

foggy sable
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the cycle of that was fun to run, doing like 3 attempts, then quitting

molten forge
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I think im gonna do a run of any% hitless at some point soon maybe just because i never tried it and know i can do it

foggy sable
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any% hitless is just thk simulator

molten forge
molten forge
foggy sable
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wait nvm I was doing all skills

autumn ice
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how bad is no cloak no wings in that fight

molten forge
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honestly watcher knights might be scarier then thk hmmm

foggy sable
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any% is a it depends on what upgrades you get simulator

autumn ice
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🤯

molten forge
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yea

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im debating if i would get dive

foggy sable
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wk eww

molten forge
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probably safest bet

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but sounds like cowards option

foggy sable
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when I was doing any% I just got DDark tbh

autumn ice
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iframe broken surely

foggy sable
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but then was like this is basically all skills and switched

molten forge
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alas we will see when i load up hk... i have to down patch so i can mod :/

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i refuse to play hk with QOL now lol

foggy sable
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any reason?

molten forge
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just feels so much faster for stags/text/selling at lemms

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i guess i dont run it for godhome though cause it fucks up soul master

proud haven
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Hi hk people

autumn ice
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hello connor

molten forge
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ello

small void
umbral night
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Weekend is near, i am here : 🎶

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Not that i can play till after tomorrow's football match but I'm glad to have some free time

obtuse brook
umbral night
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I like kittens
Cant scratch me when i hold them
Cats do

fading lodge
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guys do you think pure vessel is harder than nkg?

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i've seen people say that pure vessel was harder, but i just defeated him like for times practicing for the pantheon and i found it so much easier than nkg

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i spent days with nkg, pure vessel only took me like some hours

rapid wharf
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Where is costumer I waterways

wooden egret
fading lodge
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you're so right

blissful kestrel
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I JUST BEAT ABSOLUTE RADIANCE ON RADIANT!!!!

compact wasp
fading lodge
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i was just wondering if the majority of people would say wich one is harder

wooden egret
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For example most people find deepnest terrible but for me it is far from crystal peaks level of terrible

fading lodge
compact wasp
blissful kestrel
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I’m legit shaking

fading lodge
compact wasp
fading lodge
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i think nkg was harder for me to beat last year bc right now i have played more and havent tried to beat him againm

compact wasp
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because nkg is the first of its kind who shows you THAT level of speed so the learning curve is far steeper

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it is not that steep when it comes to nkg to pv

compact wasp
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but if you place them side by side, pv is MUCH more dangerous

raw sonnet
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yo

fading lodge
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i found pv fight fun

fading lodge
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hai

compact wasp
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ye it is my favourite in the game

fading lodge
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hes really coo~l

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but my favorite is already set since i played the game for the first time

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i LOVE the mantis lord

raw sonnet
compact wasp
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good luck for pantheon 5

fading lodge
raw sonnet
fading lodge
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im trying for my pantheon four rn

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p5 is something for the future me

raw sonnet
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best boss imo

compact wasp
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ryozen don't directly spoil them

fading lodge
compact wasp
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oh so you already know about em

wooden egret
raw sonnet
compact wasp
fading lodge
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yea, i've seen a two hour vid with all the fights of hollow knight

raw sonnet
fading lodge
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lol

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i was hyperfixated

fading lodge
compact wasp
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p5 is only really difficult when you make the mistake of not practicing the bosses you struggle with

fading lodge
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i want to fight them so bad, but they're in p5, no?

compact wasp
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yep

raw sonnet
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i did it twice when i was dog shit

fading lodge
raw sonnet
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but died to the last boss without practising

compact wasp
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also it is just fun to fight

wooden egret
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This lowk how herrah did pale king

compact wasp
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or if keyboard, do you use default keybinds?

rapid wharf
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Can someone tell me were god tuber is

compact wasp
rapid wharf
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In waterways

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God tuner

compact wasp
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or I thought you meant god tamer

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ye that's in junk pit

rapid wharf
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Where is juniper

raw sonnet
fading lodge
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i dont remember the name

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this one, but i think its made in my country

compact wasp
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is that xbox layout or playstation layout

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probably xbox

tropic nest
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xbox

fading lodge
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the xbox

compact wasp
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o sdo you know about the humble RB?

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aka the right bumper?

fading lodge
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i've played with playstation my whole life and i need to say that xbox is more comfy

fading lodge
compact wasp
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so you are aware of the quick cast button?

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yes it is my life's mission atp to tell everyone who is new to pantheons about the quick cast button

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screw you team cherry for hiding that control

fading lodge
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yes but im used to cast spell with the b botton

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button

compact wasp
tropic nest
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get used to quick cast

fading lodge
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really?

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I'll try, thanks

compact wasp
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see it for yourself. Head to the hot spring next to hall of gods to have full soul. Spam shade soul one with B and one with RB @fading lodge

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you will see the difference first hand

fading lodge
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okay, wait

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wait it is really faster

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lol thanks, i'll use this

compact wasp
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ye

raw sonnet
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well i suck at fighting rad abs now

frozen storm
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?tag qc

idle belfryBOT
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Comparison of ||Focus Cast vs Quick Cast||

||Video Link (Note: By default, A is the Focus button, F is the Quick Cast button. However, this video has it set so that F is Focus and V is Quick Cast)||

spring raven
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there is a missing grub but the grub isnt on the map

frozen storm
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Rb for heal b for qc

frozen storm
subtle glacier
frozen storm
spring raven
frozen storm
spring raven
hearty agate
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I DID IT!

spring raven
frozen storm
hearty agate
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I beat NKG on radient

frozen storm
raw sonnet
hearty agate
inner flicker
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So it’s encouraged to asc winstreak, but at the same time radiant is good for practicing to not get hit at all during P5ab, but still accounting for it with learning heal spots

inner flicker
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Because in this case I don’t want to use lifeblood

fading lodge
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i was just bad at the game when i fought him

compact wasp
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welp this means you got better

raw sonnet
compact wasp
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congrats

inner flicker
fading lodge
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yayyholyshaw

compact wasp
fading lodge
compact wasp
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and many more

inner flicker
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Nkg is a learning curve

raw sonnet
fading lodge
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i'd say pv is harder

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i changed my mind

compact wasp
raw sonnet
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no

fading lodge
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it took me three tries to beat nkg right now

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actually hmm idk

inner flicker
fading lodge
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they're pretty similar in difficulty for me

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honestly

compact wasp
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nkg is kinda pathetically slow when you do pv enough though

raw sonnet
fading lodge
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from nkg

compact wasp
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I do wonder what makes you think nkg is harder than pv

compact wasp
raw sonnet
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i mean both are easy 😭

inner flicker
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Imo nkg is way easier

compact wasp
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it becomes boring eventually

fading lodge
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lol not that much

frozen storm
fading lodge
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i'll try to do it ascended

subtle glacier
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it’s not easy yall are just practiced

compact wasp
subtle glacier
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don’t get it twisted holyshaw

compact wasp
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nkg has no chance to land a hit

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pv on the other always has a chance

frozen storm
compact wasp
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you can't go full autopilot against it

compact wasp
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literally ever

inner flicker
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I feel like it took me longer to practice nkg than pv, but nkg is still easier imo

frozen storm
compact wasp
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like I am being serious. They have never made me lose a mask

frozen storm
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The problem is hitting Grimm during that

subtle glacier
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i remember when i got rad nkg my first time

compact wasp
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nkg disappears when he spawn the spikes

frozen storm
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I love when my boss is off screen and unable to be damaged

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Such good game design

compact wasp
inner flicker
subtle glacier
fading lodge
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ok im gonna try beating p4

compact wasp
frozen storm
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5 years ago lol

inner flicker
frozen storm
raw sonnet
compact wasp
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I honestly don't even remember when..radhog suddenly became easy

compact wasp
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suddenly p5 just..became a joke

raw sonnet
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probably months

subtle glacier
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holy macaratti n cheese appearance

compact wasp
subtle glacier
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python hasn’t used that in ages

compact wasp
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it took me 5 days

raw sonnet
compact wasp
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after the first p5 win to suddenly just never lose p5 again

raw sonnet
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you kept fighting bosses/platforming after

inner flicker
compact wasp
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fricking p5 all bindings is insane

inner flicker
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I’m still making my way there

#

Currently need practice on oro and mato

frozen storm
#

I just play whenever

#

Doing bosses I enjoy

compact wasp
#

I was doing it one at a time too

frozen storm
#

Like absrad or gpz

inner flicker
#

I have almost half of radhog done if we don’t count absrad

compact wasp
#

then suddenly it was just over

cobalt linden
noble ruin
#

I don't think I ever lost in p5 after my first win except for all bindings

subtle glacier
#

i got p5 pretty quick but i skill issued rad absrad for the longest time

compact wasp
#

I remember I defeated p5 once because I saw someone do it on stream, and then to support my friend doing p5 I would play p5 with them. That made me do p5 for like 5 days straight and win for 5 days straight

#

and now we are just here

noble ruin
#

I think I actually died in an r5 run which is hella embarrassing but I was overcharmed so who cares

frozen storm
inner flicker
#

My winning attempt on P5 was the attempt after I died to absrad my first time iirc
I think there was a death to pv in between tho
Point is when i reached absrad the second time I beat her

compact wasp
#

absrad is easy when you know how to heal. well easy is the..wrong word but a lot more manageable

noble ruin
#

Absrad is easy when you have 300 hours in her

frozen storm
subtle glacier
#

i didnt think i would ever get rad absrad but about 2 years ago a friend of mine goes “hey i know you haven’t played hk in a while but can you stream an attempt i need to copy your strats” and i fluked it

noble ruin
#

Peak

compact wasp
#

i think we all had an experience like that

compact wasp
#

literally no clue how we got here

frozen storm
subtle glacier
#

it was so aura, i shrieked in between the small gap of a sword wall by complete accident too

frozen storm
#

I had one on chess

compact wasp
compact wasp
#

and then suddenly that was second nature

subtle glacier
#

i have the recording, but no discord audio sadly

subtle glacier
#

yeah and then i got hooked again and quit godhome and now im good at bingy

inner flicker
#

I can envision how to do second phase in P5ab
Stay near the bottom and wait for absrad to come to you, and if she teleports to your exact platform get hits in and ddark if she does swords

frozen storm
inner flicker
#

Just play it super safe

compact wasp
#

its not even actually hard to beat absrad in p5ab cuz of the moves. It just takes so fucking long

frozen storm
#

I've been enjoying replaying it

#

Oh nice I got image perms back

subtle glacier
#

silksong was fun, just doesn’t have the same addictive skill expression imo

#

after content updates drop surely it’ll be better

compact wasp
#

it does though

frozen storm
#

It was extremely fun

compact wasp
#

it has more potential in that than even hollow knight in some situations

subtle glacier
#

maybe i should do that

#

i think skong has a better casual experience than hk

frozen storm
compact wasp
#

ye it does

subtle glacier
#

it’s just not fun to optimize for me

frozen storm
subtle glacier
#

skips aren’t as fascinating, movement isn’t as crisp

compact wasp
#

okay that is just wrong

inner flicker
#

I’m probably actually just going to have to pause the game and think about what i would do after climb phase, assuming I make it past climb phase in the first place

frozen storm
#

Those are extremely cool

compact wasp
#

movement in silksong is so so far ahead than hk that to this day optimization is possible in speedrunning despite how much they have already minmaxxed

subtle glacier
#

i like that you’re passionate but silksong came out last year

noble ruin
inner flicker
#

Ok bye

compact wasp
#

it speedran that entire stage

inner flicker
#

I’ll get back to yall when I’m home and I beat P1ab

subtle glacier
compact wasp
#

nebula did say that though

subtle glacier
#

but i understand that you care

frozen storm
compact wasp
#

I am not even really saying randomly. These are just nebula's words

frozen storm
#

Holy

subtle glacier
#

yeah but you’re like misunderstanding

frozen storm
#

Oh I just remembered

noble ruin
#

I think speedrunners often don't recognise how much more optimised their own speedruns can be

compact wasp
#

hmm I might be

frozen storm
#

I didn't do wordle

#

Brb

compact wasp
#

but then that just makes me curious how much further they can push it than it already is

subtle glacier
#

i didn’t say that the ceiling of optimization isn’t higher, tho i don’t believe that either, i just think silksong has a more popular community for speedruns

noble ruin
#

I saw people saying that sub 55 might be possible and now it's sub 49

subtle glacier
#

what i did say is skips in silksong are less cool and movement is less fun to optimize

inner flicker
#

Asc streaking for learning heal spots and radiant for nailing down attack patterns
Sounds good ok cya

subtle glacier
#

like within a week we reached the conclusion that optimal movement was carpal tunnel

#

and half the hk runners dipped back to hk after that

compact wasp
#

neutral pogos do be hurtin

subtle glacier
#

me included

compact wasp
#

act 1 is so miserable because of that

subtle glacier
#

i think later patches could improve the speedrun but we’ll see

noble ruin
#

Yeah predash it's horrible post dash it's bad

compact wasp
#

yeah. I guess I just prefer silksong's movement more because it feels a bit snappier to me

noble ruin
#

I enjoy speedrunning it more than HK apart from that

subtle glacier
#

the dash pogo angle change had so much cool potential for room labbing, it’s sad tbh

compact wasp
#

but I don't have enough experience in either

noble ruin
#

I find silksongs combat and movement better on everything other than absrad

keen thorn
subtle glacier
#

silksong movement is cooler sideways

keen thorn
#

But it's a whole lot of timesave

compact wasp
#

I do just hate the shell shard system though

#

but that is a different topic

noble ruin
subtle glacier
#

hk movement is so infinitely far better vertically

noble ruin
#

So I don't think I'll really run any%

keen thorn
#

It was a wrong reply anyways lol

subtle glacier
#

and tc could make it equivalent by just fixing the silksong walljumps but they won’t

subtle glacier
#

it’s too late

noble ruin
#

I don't mind the silksong wall jumps

keen thorn
noble ruin
#

It makes jumping between walls actually useful and feel quick

subtle glacier
frozen storm
#

I was lucky on today's wordle ngl

compact wasp
#

btw what do you guys think about tc's decision to include only one spell slot?

noble ruin
#

The sprint in silksong is sooooooo much better than hk. Playing HK feels like I'm always missing something because of it

compact wasp
#

instead of just giving us the ability to use all spells?

noble ruin
frozen storm
#

We should end this silksong Convo or move it to somewhere else

noble ruin
#

I tried using shaman crest for the 3 spells and I found myself using some way more than others depending on the situation so I think just changing it for those situations is fine

compact wasp
#

let's see what people come up with in movement with the pantheons

subtle glacier
#

anyone who has seen a dog cycle in hk cannot tell me that silksong’s walljumps aren’t like crayola 12 pack of crayons level chunky

#

it’s so disgusting

noble ruin
#

Devourer of gods

frozen storm
compact wasp
#

there is just no reason for me to give up my parry silk skill for something else when hornet can canonically do all of the spells

subtle glacier
noble ruin
#

When canonically she should be able to use all but having 6 seems extreme

subtle glacier
#

thanks

compact wasp
#

they added 6 but then added a system that makes you abandon 5

#

and that's so weird to me

frozen storm
#

Mistake seen, mistake fixed, mistake never made again

noble ruin
#

Yeah I'm starting to put silksong spoilers in this channel so let's not talk about it now

subtle glacier
#

all good, i appreciate you

frozen storm
frozen storm
frozen storm
compact wasp
#

anyways I guess this convo just made me realize I haven't spent enough time optimizing hk movement

noble ruin
compact wasp
#

which I probably should

subtle glacier
#

hk movement is so sick

compact wasp
#

yeah I just never found resources for it

frozen storm
#

Hk movement is so fluid

compact wasp
#

this server has them though

frozen storm
#

I like the aerial mobility a lot

compact wasp
#

because this stuff is just so niche I can't just google it

subtle glacier
#

i was commentating a bingy earlier today between 2nd place in 112 and wr in all skills and low%, i was so happy

#

such a high level of play

noble ruin
#

Ehhhh

tame hornet
#

who would win between full power hornet or full power knight (pre endings)

noble ruin
#

Night

compact wasp
#

pre ending knight still has void heart and is the void given will

bold turret
subtle glacier
#

i will say i love native downdash in skong

frozen storm
compact wasp
#

yk maybe I should try skong with the knight

subtle glacier
#

fair

compact wasp
#

to just see how it feels

#

I remember I saw a mod for that

#

did you guys ever try that?

near burrow
subtle glacier
#

nah, it was after i came back to hk

near burrow
#

It feels pretty weird cuz pharloom is bulikt for tall hornet

compact wasp
frozen storm
#

I feel like I'm minimoding

compact wasp
#

about what should I really look for?

cobalt linden
frozen storm
#

I don't like this

near burrow
cobalt linden
subtle glacier
compact wasp
subtle glacier
#

huh

compact wasp
#

idk how people even do stuff fast with ab

subtle glacier
#

wdym movement tech with bindings

compact wasp
#

and I am...pretty bad at utilizing shade cloak

near burrow
compact wasp
#

I know p1 to p4 are fine

#

p5 is a different beast though

near burrow
frozen storm
compact wasp
near burrow
#

Ima beat p5 this summer vacations

subtle glacier
compact wasp
#

my brain can't understand what are they changing

subtle glacier
#

i don’t really do godhome stuff anymore

#

i’m overworld

bold turret
frozen hull
#

What about, invisible sandwich? Imagine eating a sandwich but everybody thinks you're crazy

near burrow
compact wasp
#

also silksong gave me the bad habit of not using shade cloak

#

I REALLY need to use shade cloak more

cobalt linden
frozen storm
slender elbow
# compact wasp how do people even kill things fast with all bindings?

i mean the exact strategy is gonna change from boss to boss but generally speaking its stuff like getting a spell out the moment u hit full soul, knowing what spell to use in which scenario to maximize dps, and if u have enough downtime between being able to hit the boss, consider charging a nart, etc. but obviously spells are the biggest dps in ab so u want to really be utilizing those. and that goes hand in hand which trying to minimize taking damage since u would rather be spending the soul on spells rather than heals.

cobalt linden
spring raven
#

im having an brain ache

#

stupid grubs

ornate kernel
spring raven
subtle glacier
#

what area?

ornate kernel
#

😂

spring raven
#

white lady

subtle glacier
#

oh yeah

ornate kernel
#

oh right 😂

coral marlin
#

Perks about using the joystick: Uhhhh...

Cons about using the joystick: STOP FUCKING DOUBLE TAPPING IN MENUS, I'M GOING TO RIP THIS FUCKING THING OUT, I SWEAR

subtle glacier
#

that’ll do it

coral marlin
#

Doesn't respond as well, kinda have to drill into the directions to get good usage

strong skiff
#

bigny is thriving seemingly

coral marlin
#

Actually not as bad as I thought, might give it a shot

Been a while since I used it (but the down button might be kinda fucked)

ornate kernel
#

I used to use the stick in the first like, 12 hours or so I think

subtle glacier
#

i commed a match today

ornate kernel
strong skiff
#

gang am i BLOCKED

ornate kernel
#

the only thing thats kinda restricted then would ddive ig

ornate kernel
coral marlin
#

I mean I'm doing AbsRad Nail Only Speedkills so I mean, pogo is recommended

subtle glacier
#

not by me

strong skiff
#

either discord is dumb or 🦦 blocked me

subtle glacier
#

it’s removing my reacts too

coral marlin
#

Gotta love not being able to see the sword right above me when the sword rain is about to end

strong skiff
#

fascinating

#

it says theres an error loading the profile too

subtle glacier
#

i would not block romar

#

maybe i need to update idk

ornate kernel
#

bruh

subtle glacier
#

i’m on mobile? maybe that’s it

strong skiff
#

im in pc browser

subtle glacier
#

test

strong skiff
#

i actually loaded third try

subtle glacier
#

wtf

strong skiff
#

i think there are api problems

ornate kernel
#

I'm in app and something is wrong

hollow nova
#

It looks like everyone shows up as blocked omegamarmu

ornate kernel
#

whut

#

oh yeah

silk beacon
strong skiff
ornate kernel
#

it says it cant load all the details for me

subtle glacier
#

did i get flagged for smth

spring raven
#

can we run doom on hk

strong skiff
#

it shows friend ✅ tho

silk beacon
coral marlin
#

God I SUCK at the climb, holy

strong skiff
#

which idk if is possible while blocked

strong skiff
coral marlin
#

Y'know I did have some crazy message lag the other day
Probably just my wifi acting up, but

strong skiff
#

i kinda wonder what api problems mean actually

subtle glacier
#

bruh i’m getting censored

#

it won’t let me send images

ornate kernel
#

I mean, it looks fine rn, no?

coral marlin
#

Imagine it's just some hacker fucking with Discord's servers or something

ornate kernel
#

they're copying our data rn ig

strong skiff
coral marlin
#

Damn, everyone's gonna know I'm only 19
They're gonna bully me for being young af

strong skiff
#

brotato chip youre not 19

subtle glacier
#

19 is not young in this server

coral marlin
noble ruin
#

Choom is elderly

ornate kernel
#

you got them ppl that sound like 10 somewhere

coral marlin
#

I definitely act like a little bitch despite the fact I should be mature

strong skiff
ornate kernel
strong skiff
#

yeah thats sort of what im saying

subtle glacier
#

04 elderbug

strong skiff
#

i decided to be nice tho

ornate kernel
subtle glacier
#

i am your brother

strong skiff
#

holy shit

ornate kernel
#

💀

coral marlin
#

Got another AbsRad speedkill done
Let's see how well I did

ornate kernel
#

Jason?

strong skiff
#

actually imagine

ornate kernel
#

he finally brought back the milk😭

subtle glacier
#

would be funny
i don’t have a younger brother tho fate

strong skiff
#

randomly meeting your brother online thats currently in the other room

ornate kernel
#

we share the room 😂

strong skiff
#

just a theoretical

#

thats deffinetelly happened to someone before so thats funny

ornate kernel
subtle glacier
#

surely i’ve interacted with someone i know randomly on the internet without realizing

coral marlin
#

Another 59 second AbsRad time. Phase 1 was kinda ruined by AbsRad giving me a long attack right before the phase transition.

subtle glacier
#

idk

strong skiff
#

if its some random classmate i guess its not that unlikely

coral marlin
#

Coulda gotten a true 55 second time if she just didn't screw me over

subtle glacier
#

i ran into someone from my childhood home in a different country once

ornate kernel
strong skiff
#

someone from your childhood home?

subtle glacier
#

yeah

ornate kernel
#

met him at my workplace, after playing with him a few years back lol

subtle glacier
#

one of my classmates from japan was just at a random aldi’s in ireland

coral marlin
#

I read that as "I ran someone from my childhood into a different country once" and thought "what the fuck did you DO??"

strong skiff
#

i read childhood home as like
the same house

subtle glacier
#

my 😭 got yoinked

strong skiff
#
  • shrue
ornate kernel
#

my 💀 got yoinked too 😭

coral marlin
#

My fire reactions are- oh wait

#

YOINKED autocorrect
Not "you keep" ffs

ornate kernel
coral marlin
#

Damn

subtle glacier
#

thanks discord

frozen storm
coral marlin
#

Man Discord sucks

strong skiff
#

suprisingly communicating without reacts is harder

ornate kernel
#

true

strong skiff
#

some messages just deserve a react instead of a full on reply

ornate kernel
#

yup 😭

subtle glacier
#

solved

strong skiff
#

guh thats so much effort

frozen storm
#

Tf

strong skiff
#

lmao

frozen storm
#

Why is grub note not noting

coral marlin
#

Y'know the reason I act less mature than my age would suggest is due to some childhood shit

strong skiff
frozen storm
#

Tf

coral marlin
ornate kernel
strong skiff
#

i was actually meaning to lock in on some moding so i guess imma do that

frozen storm
strong skiff
ornate kernel
strong skiff
#

huhh

ornate kernel
#

🤣

strong skiff
#

maybe so

coral marlin
#

I also just have general temper issues

frozen storm
strong skiff
#

but idk i dont really write paragrapsh

fading lodge
#

OMG

frozen storm
#

Also

fading lodge
#

I BEAT THE FORTH PANTHEON

coral marlin
#

"Someone disagreed with me? Guess I hate them now"

Like that's just how my brain works for some damn reason

frozen storm
#

?tag yesping

strong skiff
frozen storm
strong skiff
#

so i guess you do act accordingly

ornate kernel
frozen storm
#

Dyno is dead or something

strong skiff
#
strong skiff
#

ok have fun with your broken api
imma break my own💀

ornate kernel
#

😂

ornate kernel
#

you have fun man

coral marlin
#

AbsRad hit me with some straight up bullshit, lemme clip that rq

ornate kernel
ornate kernel
#

ah, right

fervent geyser
#

i have as a matter of ddact

#

i just terible internet

ornate kernel
#

😂

coral marlin
#

MY FUCKIN IMAGE PERMA

frozen storm
#

?tag permpsa

coral marlin
#

BROTHA WHERE'D MY VIDEO GO

frozen storm
#

DISCORD IS BROKEN

coral marlin
#

It's just auto-deleting bro...

#

BROTHA IMAGES DON'T WORK EITHER

frozen storm
#

Ok it won't work

#

Let me try songs

coral marlin
frozen storm
#

Ok songs don't work

#

Embeds in fact work

coral marlin
#

Guys my messages are lagging again

#

...fuck you.

#

Man not even the Discord gifs

ornate kernel
#

cute wink

#

oh wait, it IS lagging...

tacit spear
frozen storm
#

Its over

coral marlin
#

I can't send shit
It just gets auto deleted

tacit spear
coral marlin
#

Best we can hope for is Discord gets its shit together

frozen storm
#

Shrue

coral marlin
#

10 seconds of message lag
Test for editing the message

tacit spear
trail ruin
#

Why I can't send images anymore?

worthy peak
#

just had a bingy that lasted 3 hours...

coral marlin
#

Y'know both this time and yesterday's problems happened around the afternoon, I think?

#

I mean this is worse than last time

coral marlin
trail ruin
#

The app Is back

coral marlin
#

I WOULD send images that would describe the situation, but best I can do is just say go online and search up "discordstatus.com"

trail ruin
#

Yuppie

#

But I can't send images

coral marlin
#

I think that was the site

trail ruin
#

Fr

coral marlin
#

Images get auto deleted for some reason

#

Also I just dropped a really good AbsRad climb

frozen storm
#

That one went instantly

#

I think

#

That id

#

The data of the

#

Message is

#

Too big

#

It'll take way longer

coral marlin
#

Holy shit

frozen storm
#

To send

coral marlin
#

Gui jumpscare

jolly grail
#

Hi

coral marlin
#

Hi
Discord is a bit bugged rn so uh no images, and potential message lag

obtuse brook
#

Did you enjoy the grass?