hk-discussion

[earnest apex]

Hollow Knight is beautiful

[honest shale]

but the optional unintended endgame shit is kinda hard therefore dark souls

[compact wasp]

TRUEEE

[compact wasp]

btw wanna know the funniest part of this?

from what I have noticed?

[vestal tusk]

Now keep doing this until you beat the game

[honest shale]

go on

[compact wasp]

people who usually don't have the intention of getting better, or considered it a "challenge for being a gamer" since the start become the ones who conquer the hardest challenges in this game

[honest shale]

Bcs they played the game for its difficulty, got disappointed, then made their own

[compact wasp]

because then they unlock the ability to not judge themselves. They grow to have fun. They find upgrades. They make mistakes, and fix it in their journey. Learning to spell cast, finding openings. Preferring dodging over panic healing. They become gods because they didn't want to be called as one.

[sour flax]

yeah im not bothered enough to do the head im just gonna use the clam and call it a day

[eternal geyser]

No I definitely enjoy hollow knight. It never got boring. Still if I could avoid a fight, I will do my best to avoid it. I wanna say something about sequel. I don't think this is channel for that. I will just say playing the seq made me appreciate hollow knight a lot

[honest shale]

brb ima shower rq

[sour flax]

uh

[compact wasp]

Makes sense, but maybe give fighting an actual fair chance

[sour flax]

i dont think nkg does that

[compact wasp]

I mean if someone like me who had severe adhd and borderline unbearable anxiety disorders can learn to enjoy fighting in this game, I don't see why you can't

[sour flax]

yeah this is all i can think of

idk what to do for the head

[honest shale]

id argue the adhd is irrelevant here

[compact wasp]

I would get overwhelmed really easily actually

[honest shale]

interesting

fuck auto correct

[compact wasp]

Yeah one of the symptoms is avoiding cognitive heavy lifting of adhd

[sour flax]

ooo

nkg won

[compact wasp]

Mine was so severe that it couldn't handle basic bossfights without entering panic

[honest shale]

anxiety not adhd

[sour flax]

ok next boss

should i try godtamer

[honest shale]

Unless im fucking stupid

[nova quest]

just denounce the entire field of psychology

[compact wasp]

Adhd actually has that too. Their symptoms overlap

That's kinda the hard part about psychology lol

[sour flax]

whats the name of the god tamer's pet

would it just be god or

[compact wasp]

I just call it the beast

[sour flax]

im gonna name it beast or smth

ayyyy

[nova quest]

the hardest part of psychology is making it not SUCK

[sour flax]

only issue is

how the hell am i going to make the beast

i dont think i can actually

nvm then

who should i make next

[honest shale]

absolute radiance

[compact wasp]

How tf is that possible

[honest shale]

it likely isnt

[sour flax]

i mean it could work but

itd look NOTHING like it

same thing with the beast

[bitter jolt]

bruh i just got killed by beam wall spam in ground are we serious

[foggy sable]

seems unoptimal

[formal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992118472907698269/1445811480749412423/Untitled_12.gif

[honest shale]

you’re unoptimal

sry that was mean

[formal ridge]

meanie

[foggy sable]

arguably

[honest shale]

tf u mean arguably

[formal ridge]

humans are unoptimal

[wind garnet]

gr

i got a sub 9 pv with tendrils

[foggy sable]

gr

[nova quest]

humans are optimal as hell

[foggy sable]

very speedy

[formal ridge]

thorns

[foggy sable]

thorns only p5 when (never)

[bitter jolt]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

1126 hp WHY DO I KEEP FUMBLING

[formal ridge]

p5 tommorow

[honest shale]

bcs you are enddeous

this is a common occurence

[bitter jolt]

lol

unfortunately it is

[formal ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-soggy-cat-cat-meme-silly-gif-1947576969338905744

[honest shale]

this must be a really fun video to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csDZ781jAsA

[formal ridge]

873????

[lyric sparrow]

Day 873? Thats almost 2 or more years😭

[honest shale]

its not me its suscat

give him the credit

[bitter jolt]

why

[honest shale]

just watch it

[bitter jolt]

yeah its 2.0 what about it

[formal ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128048705363251265/1494187240786759800/cantsee.gif

[honest shale]

thats the joke

my humor is ass

[rare aurora]

?

[delicate coral]

Loll

Hi end, hi non

[trail ruin]

Damn 873 is a lot

[delicate coral]

hru

[honest shale]

im good hbu

[honest shale]

again, not my video

[trail ruin]

I know

[honest shale]

then why am i getting reply pinged for it

[trail ruin]

Bruh

[delicate coral]

Good thanks

[delicate coral]

cfm ftw

[lapis pendant]

I kinda wonder who Grimmchild's other parent is
Is Grimm capable of asexual reproduction

Or is it Mitosis

Meiosis?

One must ponder

[wind garnet]

wow 873 what a loser

[honest shale]

he does himself through dance

[delicate coral]

Hmm

[lapis pendant]

Grimmchild is much smaller than Grimm so I don't think it's Mitosis

[honest shale]

no clue why anyone would do smth that stupid for that long

[wind garnet]

this run was ass bruh why did you send this slop

i got to final in 5 attempts but died and it took a while more to clear

[delicate coral]

it is just pv

[honest shale]

we were on the topic of 2.0 and it was really funny to see enddeous say he fumbled while watching the video
so i sent it

[honest shale]

i am joking

[edgy kraken]

hi

[delicate coral]

I thought you were replying to mattia

I think im blind

[honest shale]

the definition of “think” is being stretched

[bitter jolt]

BEAM BURST KEEPS SNIPING ME WTF

[honest shale]

seems like it may be kinda bad for your chances of beating 2.0

i could be wrong tho

[bitter jolt]

1262

[honest shale]

2.0 is an addiction

quit before its too late

[bitter jolt]

its already too late

[honest shale]

its never too late

quit before its too late

???

[molten yoke]

@foggy sable haiiii

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiiiiii

[honest shale]

hello hru

[merry scarab]

Hai

[molten yoke]

Good thx!! U?

[molten yoke]

Hruuuu?

[honest shale]

im good

[molten yoke]

Hai hruuu?

[molten yoke]

That’s good

[merry scarab]

Oh good wbu

Whats everyone talking abt rn or everyone just saying hi and all?

[honest shale]

the humble scrolling up

[molten yoke]

Js saying hai :3

[merry scarab]

Ph cool

[molten yoke]

Glad to hear ur good

[merry scarab]

Im mentally stable today ♡

[molten yoke]

Yayyyy!

[merry scarab]

Hehe I say that when I mean im mentally stable currently but definitely wasnt 👍

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-playing-hornet-silksong-hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-6193659343023373678

[austere yarrow]

guys i have xbox gamepass hollow knight last version
and i have installed all mods and it dosen't work
any solution?🥲🥲

[molten yoke]

What was up then?

[lyric sparrow]

BurgerPants sprite but with hornet?!

[merry scarab]

Meh just chill rn wondering if I should be doing my chores rn ;-;

Yeah wow.

Guys I made an oc for hollow knight and silksong

I drew him☆

His name is kaelen ☆☆

I agve him lore

[molten yoke]

Show it in #hk-art-gallery

[merry scarab]

Rr ok

Give me second i need the pic.

Wait I need to redraw him hes not there anymore.

[molten yoke]

Okiii

[foggy sable]

I'm good hru

[molten yoke]

Good thx!!!

[foggy sable]

submitted an assignment so doing some hk before working on the next one

[austere yarrow]

any help?

[worthy peak]

@molten yoke @bitter jolt @foggy sable @honest shale

Hiiiiii

[foggy sable]

hiiiiii hru

[bitter jolt]

lingering orb hitboxes

[humble glacier]

If you think about it

[worthy peak]

Good

[bitter jolt]

hi strawberry hru

[molten yoke]

Haiii hruuu?

[worthy peak]

Hru peeps?

[worthy peak]

I'm good

[foggy sable]

doing galien practice so bad

[molten yoke]

Btw I’ve sent u a friend request cuz ur chill

[merry scarab]

Ok

[worthy peak]

:(

Gl

Oh btw how bad is r04 failed champion. I considering whether to skip them for now @foggy sable

[foggy sable]

the hardest one imo

aside from the 2 I haven't done

which are the evil ones

[worthy peak]

Harder than gpz!?!

[foggy sable]

well it took longer than gpz

[worthy peak]

Okay I'm definitely skipping

[foggy sable]

(perhaps skill issue related though so idk)

[bitter jolt]

btw grey did rabono not r04

[foggy sable]

I've done both for fc

and only 04r for gpz

[bitter jolt]

oh

[worthy peak]

Well FC r04 is like uhh you don't get soul so i presumed nail only is less of an effect

Than on others

[foggy sable]

04r and rabono are basically the same except you miss out on 39 damage per phase

so it is like, 8% harder

[bitter jolt]

oh yea

i forgor

[worthy peak]

As opposed to every other boss where you miss out on 80% damage :(

Actually a few are probably too hard to wraiths... Though I can't think of any

Can either of you think of any bosses too hard to wraiths?

[bitter jolt]

massive moss charger

[worthy peak]

The like jump though

[foggy sable]

markoth

[worthy peak]

Can wraiths inflict downwards knockback?

[bitter jolt]

oh yea

[quartz cave]

gmcb,

[vestal sky]

i should get back into hk

[foggy sable]

on some fights I feel like it can but I'm not sure

[subtle glacier]

wraiths is a make yourself vulnerable to jank button

[honest shale]

the moment i leave to play deltarune

[subtle glacier]

however it’s also like super strong if you know what fights it’s safe on, and then also it’s the best airstall apparently despite no one being willing to explain why

[sick heath]

please reconsider

[worthy peak]

I wanna know why so badly now

[worthy peak]

Hru?

[honest shale]

very good

k1 rn

[subtle glacier]

it last longer than other airstalls, so maybe bc your shade has time to fly higher than with vs? idk

[vestal sky]

you're right i'll continue grinding for plat on concord

[sick heath]

so true

[agile pewter]

:|

[vestal sky]

:\

[compact wasp]

grey do you think I should do till p4eb before trying p3ab?

[foggy sable]

idk

I guess the lifeblood would help you

[bitter jolt]

nOOOOOOOOOOO

I JUST FUMBLED FINAL

[compact wasp]

rip

[bitter jolt]

FUCKJ

[compact wasp]

yeah

[bitter jolt]

i hate myself

[compact wasp]

you proved that ages ago when you decided to try this

that's like saying floor is made out of floor

[honest shale]

dont do that its bad for your mental health

[bitter jolt]

lol

[honest shale]

also i fucking beat jevil lets go

[bitter jolt]

i fucking suck at this game

3 mask final...

[honest shale]

Nothing in hk is as hard as fucking jevil

and i hate it

[bitter jolt]

the final means i can do it

im so close\

[honest shale]

the final means im gonna hear this man suffer through rad 2.0 at some point

[worthy peak]

D:

[quartz cave]

@vestal sky wake up.

[bitter jolt]

i knew it was going to happen but still

it sucks so much

[honest shale]

grass is green ahh realisation

[bitter jolt]

fuck you

[honest shale]

What did i do bro

[glossy nest]

oh hey it's leon kennedy hk

[glossy nest]

whats final?

take this 🍪

[bitter jolt]

final phase

similar to absrad

[vestal sky]

no thanks

[honest shale]

@quartz cave

[wary hound]

hey

[honest shale]

hello hru

[wary hound]

im good i just got back from walking my dogs

i feel great
who knew exercise was good for you

[quartz cave]

in my humble opinion

https://open.spotify.com/album/01FqYKXIKnGNh2dqdB4fjD?

[quartz cave]

@honest shale

[honest shale]

Dogs are great

[honest shale]

hru

[wary hound]

i would prefer cats but dogs are nice

[honest shale]

i no longer care for your existence

[wary hound]

cool

[honest shale]

wait shit i forgot thats smth you want

[vestal sky]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0InIeZW4P6VO7dUGRM4AKH

[wary hound]

mmm

[quartz cave]

uhhh i didnt look at the right day so i arrived 2 hrs early to school

[wary hound]

so sad

[quartz cave]

hopping ,

30 seconds was enough

this is the best song ever,

[vestal sky]

ni hao

[quartz cave]

@frozen storm

[wary hound]

hey

im doing good

i suppose

lmao sad

[honest shale]

dumb of ass

ellho

incredible

i killed jevil

killed

sparing is smth i will do later

rude buster go brrrrrr

and killing jevil is easier

no

ive been spoiled for fucking everything in ch3 and 4 anyways

Jevil was fun

also apparently ralsie is actually really good in the jevil fight

i just had him spam defend to farm tp for rudebuster

mb

i do

im not very good at button mashing tho

[heavy shuttle]

[honest shale]

i dont have nitro so i cant assjim react

[heavy shuttle]

I'll react so you can click it and then I'll un react

[honest shale]

Ty

[heavy shuttle]

Yeah

[honest shale]

on the tiny ass buttons on the joycons?

never take this out of context

your funeral

[foggy sable]

is it a bad thing that 1 nail damage galien is... kinda fun

[quartz cave]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-griffin-family-guy-psych-ward-gif-26893232

[foggy sable]

nail only is just so peaceful

[dusky coral]

Stockholm syndrome

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[worthy peak]

No it's a good thing. But is it actually true?

[foggy sable]

I think so

[worthy peak]

You are allowed spells right?

[foggy sable]

nope

I'm basically seeing how long I can survive in the fight

[honest shale]

why would you do this to yourself

[worthy peak]

Well... How far have you gotten so far?

[foggy sable]

actually winning isn't really an option

[honest shale]

rabono flukemarm is more sane

[worthy peak]

Actually would be hilarious if you did though

[worthy peak]

What mod gives you this

[nova quest]

everything is an option

[foggy sable]

Ill check

ShowHPOnDeath

[honest shale]

should i grind p5ab or do spampton neo

[worthy peak]

Radhog do it again

Spamton neo if it has to be one of the two...

[foggy sable]

rabHoG imo

[honest shale]

no

[worthy peak]

Oh do you have hornet 1 tips. I can't get any consistency so am struggling on r04. Which seems weirdly harder than irab

[honest shale]

much no

[worthy peak]

Why not :(

[foggy sable]

ummm don't use wraiths

[honest shale]

not even possible for me to do rabhog

[honest shale]

its boring as fuck

[foggy sable]

3 hit cyclone on the stagger then 2 nail hits and fireball for a stagger loop

[agile pewter]

Here
https://youtu.be/MUzPNcUK0mw?si=N3eLFQ199-DB58q5

:3

[worthy peak]

Do charmless channeled nail only cast spells after 3 hits radhog

[rose ferry]

I am burned out i can'tplay hollow knight correctly also i cannot beat any of the bosses i have to fight

[honest shale]

no self promotion mods torsion his testicles

[worthy peak]

Wait. But I only get two hits on cyclon

[honest shale]

dont have a save with nail 2

[carmine lava]

https://youtu.be/3XNaZ3iRDVE?si=l0NkLjr-3xBqahj_

[honest shale]

and im not getting one

[trail ruin]

Damn self glaze is crazy vro

[worthy peak]

Getting to godhome with that will take slightly less time than the rest of it so clearly it's fine

[foggy sable]

umm, get a third nail hit in idk

[honest shale]

no self promotion testicles torsion his mods

[foggy sable]

https://youtu.be/BJ6DeB-18nQ

marmu

[honest shale]

no self promotion mods give her balls

[rose ferry]

I hate him so much

[foggy sable]

the fight is truly terrible

[trail ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/balls-gif-22045792

[rose ferry]

It took me 4 tries to kill marmu

[trail ruin]

With mark of pride is easier

[foggy sable]

weirdly getting the 4x only took 25 minutes or so of recording

[bitter jolt]

hi grey hru

[foggy sable]

including the run itself

[foggy sable]

hiiii end, I'm somehow enjoying galien hru

[bitter jolt]

bad cos i fumbled 3 mask final

[foggy sable]

once you do 2.0 you can go do r5 and compare how difficult the runs are

[worthy peak]

Now do it rabono :D so you can truly hate them

Actually rabono mightmake you like them more idk. Does it gr?

[rose ferry]

how do you get image perms i am asking because i can't play hollow knight because i need a break

[foggy sable]

not really

[bitter jolt]

maybe maybe not lol

[foggy sable]

yo ucould

[worthy peak]

?tag permpsa

[idle belfry]

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[bitter jolt]

if i do r5 im skipping p5ab lmaooo

[foggy sable]

that is doable

[worthy peak]

I should do them...

[foggy sable]

yess

[worthy peak]

I'm not going to do R5 though actually cause I'm scared

2.0 seems achievable though

[honest shale]

very bad idea

do p5ab

[foggy sable]

send me a 2.0 video and I'll send you an r5 one surely

[worthy peak]

Good. P5ab sucks

[honest shale]

or at least p5eb

[rose ferry]

I have sent 198 messages

[foggy sable]

and we can both pretend we did both

[worthy peak]

Need 101 more :D

[rose ferry]

ok

[worthy peak]

And then someone asks how to do a boss and it's made immediately clear that something fishy is going on

[bitter jolt]

lol

[foggy sable]

if you can do rabHoG you are technically proficient enough for r5

[honest shale]

Do rab5ono

[worthy peak]

Ehhh

I don't think so

I don't remember how to fight the bosses

[ebon depot]

simply hit them without getting hit its very shrimple

[bitter jolt]

r5abono*

[worthy peak]

It's like R5 will involve remembering how to do all the bosses whereas I just forget the second I enter the next one

[worthy peak]

5ronabo*

[shrewd nymph]

Nightmare and void*

[quartz cave]

@shrewd nymph

[wary hound]

Boundless infinity*

[shrewd nymph]

afternoon pooks

[bitter jolt]

i fumbled 3 mask final

[shrewd nymph]

Rip

But getting to final means you're close

[honest shale]

Ir5ab with anyrad 3.0 at the end*

[bitter jolt]

yea

i hope I clear tmr

[shrewd nymph]

Gl

[honest shale]

7 pm is not afternoon

it is at least evening

[bitter jolt]

when i do clear you'll be one of the first to know

and whoever else is in hkdisc at the time lmaooo

[shrewd nymph]

Anything between 12pm and 12am is afternoon for me

I dont like the term evening

[honest shale]

fair enough

[shrewd nymph]

Good evening sounds like im a posh fuck

Stereotypical british posh

[foggy sable]

lune, I've been having fun with 1 nail damage galien

it is for no reason at all kinda a good time

[shrewd nymph]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[bitter jolt]

lune two of your friends are going insane

[shrewd nymph]

At what point is it too far

[foggy sable]

long ago

[shrewd nymph]

And many more

[foggy sable]

if I just find something less fun then r5ab will be good again

it is genius if you really thing about it

[shrewd nymph]

[honest shale]

r045

[shrewd nymph]

Ignore the mental health effects

[foggy sable]

maybe p045 but that means learning collector

and relearning flukemarm

[bitter jolt]

lol

[honest shale]

very simple

[foggy sable]

I'm almost good enough to theoretically do p5ab ono

if I learnt those 2 fights

and gpz

[shrewd nymph]

see i was gonna ask how you are rn

But doing 1 nail galien kinda answers that

cant be very good

[foggy sable]

I just had to do a video assignment with a very vague prompt so

[shrewd nymph]

Video assignment?

[foggy sable]

at least the editing knowledge came in useful

[shrewd nymph]

Like a recording?

[foggy sable]

yes

[shrewd nymph]

what u needa edit it for

[foggy sable]

well, I did the opening of it at the port but didn't want to do the rest of it there so did it just a voiceover over relevant graphs and articles

which was fun but very time consuming

[agile pewter]

Nerd shit

🍋

[foggy sable]

the topic I chose was fun

[shrewd nymph]

[foggy sable]

at least

[shrewd nymph]

do we get to know the topic

[foggy sable]

sure, linking the development and evolution of trade policy to the rise of populism in western countries

[honest shale]

get out

[foggy sable]

it is a bit more complicated but like

[agile pewter]

🍑

[foggy sable]

anyway I like economic policy and also politics so it was not too bad to do

@frozen storm

[bitter jolt]

@frozen storm

[shrewd nymph]

@frozen storm

[naive dew]

Nothing

[honest shale]

i forgot how insufferable you were

[foggy sable]

hiiiiiiii

[naive dew]

All 4 of the band girls are like peak so they kinda alternate

@frozen storm @foggy sable @shrewd nymph

[honest shale]

@frozen storm

[shrewd nymph]

I understood like 4 words and they were all the 2 letter ones

[foggy sable]

complicated hru

[bitter jolt]

lol

[shrewd nymph]

@naive dew hii melone

[foggy sable]

hiiiii hru

[honest shale]

and im saying hi again

[foggy sable]

it was a good time, researching it was fun

[honest shale]

hi hru

[foggy sable]

tragic

[honest shale]

shit bcs i just died to oblobbles

[foggy sable]

I think a lot of bosses are just more fun with no spells tbh

[honest shale]

bro how

[shrewd nymph]

With the spice of humor

[honest shale]

oh ok then

its like ok

[foggy sable]

there is an enjoyment in just the execution of a simple strategy

[shrewd nymph]

Only with sbody and/or fury

[foggy sable]

oh no, I'm becoming a low equipment enjoyer

[honest shale]

triple hit shade soul on the other hand

[shrewd nymph]

But no ddark can make some stuff bs

im rlly not tryna fight hive knight without ddark

[honest shale]

irab flukemarm

[foggy sable]

not that though

[honest shale]

good

[bitter jolt]

[foggy sable]

yes, the limit is anything I can't do and also a lot of things I don't want to do

[bitter jolt]

how does that even happen

I know

but shade cloak is a thing

shriek and shade soul are still things

upslash?

[honest shale]

fail you have been hit by the beam wall

[bitter jolt]

oh we're still talking about that
same thing?

shade cloak then use shriek or shade soul

also pogo dash is a thing, and so is jumping

its the easiest thing to do*

[honest shale]

”when i put a good player into an ass position they are smart enough to not get themselves into and i eliminate every other reasonable option besides ddark what do they do”

[bitter jolt]

but not the best

[edgy kraken]

hi gng

[bitter jolt]

because shriek and shade soul deal more damage

[foggy sable]

don't be on the same platform if you have no means of i frames

[honest shale]

henlo

[ebon depot]

cpp jumpscare

[bitter jolt]

shade cloaking is consistent too

[edgy kraken]

why jumpscare

[foggy sable]

and if she moves to you get room so you are not face attacked

[ebon depot]

did not expect to see a programming language in chat

[honest shale]

getting face attacked is reactable anyways

[bitter jolt]

lol

[ebon depot]

the mean hkdisc people always leave once i start talking about programming

[edgy kraken]

hmm

[foggy sable]

with no i frames on plats a face laser spawn sucks

[edgy kraken]

why tho

[honest shale]

even without ddark or shade cloak

[honest shale]

imo its very good

[edgy kraken]

js learn programming and mod hk

[honest shale]

lots of free damage + easy to dodge attack

[foggy sable]

we do much different fights

[honest shale]

or i just learnt absrad without ddark

[honest shale]

clearly

[ebon depot]

I would if only hk mods werent written in c#, i aint setting up dotnet on linux

[edgy kraken]

I have an alt and its named C#

[honest shale]

Do they happen to mod smash ultimate?

[edgy kraken]

🤷‍♂️

[honest shale]

its a yes or no

[edgy kraken]

i dont know what ur talking about so its a 🤷‍♂️

[honest shale]

Dont know as in the game?

you dont know the game?

[edgy kraken]

ik the game

havent played it tho

[honest shale]

ok

[edgy kraken]

i was born in 2010

[ebon depot]

holy fuck im feeling old 2010 is crazy

[ember pecan]

same

[honest shale]

oh no
the children

[worthy peak]

Better than a sword spawn on same platform...

[edgy kraken]

wdym

[honest shale]

even easier to dodge

[foggy sable]

true but at least there you die instantly and not slowly

[worthy peak]

Maybe on top platform but both are easy to dodge on top platform. You really need to worry about the bottom three which basically just telefrag you 50% if the time. And gives you less time to punish

[honest shale]

im talking abt the bottom 3

[worthy peak]

How slow do your swords spawn!

[honest shale]

you can predict where they will

[worthy peak]

Explain

[honest shale]

i kinda cant

bcs i do it subconsciously

[bitter jolt]

also it doesnt happen enough to matter

[foggy sable]

it does

[worthy peak]

Cause to my knowledge the first wave just can telefrag you and the second one you move to where was just hit

[worthy peak]

What do you mean?

Any telefrags matter

[bitter jolt]

you'll see it like once or twice per run

[honest shale]

im pretty sure the first one can only spawn in one pattern making it predictable

[foggy sable]

you only need to get telefragged once to lose a run

[worthy peak]

Yeah. So uhh. That is a lot fo dead runs

[bitter jolt]

not really

[foggy sable]

yes

[honest shale]

My source is i can predict it

no actual testing has been done

[bitter jolt]

a few dead runs

[foggy sable]

a lot of dead runs if you play on the same plats as absrad in no spell gameplay

[bitter jolt]

i guess in ab or low gear it matters but not enough in full gear

[worthy peak]

Given it's like my highest cause of death I'm concerned about it

[honest shale]

a few dead runs at the end of r5 is fiiine

[worthy peak]

To radabsrad

[foggy sable]

the context around this was no spell gameplay

otherwise you just DDark spam when you are on the same platform

[bitter jolt]

oh no spells at all

[foggy sable]

well who does no DDark in gameplay with the other spells

some people I know but not that many

[bitter jolt]

ig lol

[gloomy scarab]

Shade dash management? In my pantheon bossfight? I won’t have it

[worthy peak]

Just do nma

[bitter jolt]

when i do rad absrad i try not ddark, waste of soul

[worthy peak]

Ehh?

[honest shale]

best use of soul is now a waste of soul

[worthy peak]

It's like only a 20 damage difference for the spell in return for being able to safely hit?

[gloomy scarab]

Take damage for 2 charges and slow heal for 2 masks

or deal damage to the boss, maintain positional pressure, and avoid damage (and a need to heal) entirely for the cost of 1 soul charge

[worthy peak]

Like there are situations where you just get to hit the boss twice more from ddarking so like...

[gloomy scarab]

Ddark would be just as spammable if it did zero aoe damage

[worthy peak]

Those cases you get more damage

[bitter jolt]

I would rather use it for damage

like shriek or smth

[worthy peak]

You better not fireball ever

[bitter jolt]

also ddark spam makes the fight boring

[gloomy scarab]

Spells have situational and contextual uses

[warm aurora]

Thats likely to get you killed

[bitter jolt]

its good when i dont want to be stunned for so long

[gloomy scarab]

Ddarking is a way to make damage combos possible

That’s like not shade dashing because it’s too passive

[worthy peak]

Yes but that contradicts your reasoning for not ddarking

[honest shale]

says the anyrad player

[bitter jolt]

hence i play 2.0

[worthy peak]

2.0 remember

[bitter jolt]

also double hits deal more damage

[honest shale]

even worse bcs you complain abt ddark not working pretty often

[bitter jolt]

ddarking for no reason loses easy damage, also now I have to jump back up to her if I'm in ground

[worthy peak]

Hmm

I don't think so...

[bitter jolt]

no i complain i cast it by accident

[worthy peak]

Oh is it 53 not 63

[warm aurora]

2x40

[worthy peak]

With shaman Ddark does 80 though

!wiki ddark

[warm aurora]

If you hit both times

[honest shale]

no

[worthy peak]

Sigh

[half thorn]

ik this isnt #hk-help but how do i get to ||godseeker||

[worthy peak]

I know but with shaman I thought they both did same iirc

[honest shale]

!wiki descending dark

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Descending_Dark

[warm aurora]

You can hardly hit absrad with the bottom hitbox

[honest shale]

waterways

[worthy peak]

Yeah but you are like never using shade soul in ground surely

[warm aurora]

True

[bitter jolt]

ohk but even then shade soul lets you play more aggressivs after the cast

[worthy peak]

No

[half thorn]

can you show me the map

[worthy peak]

Like just no

[warm aurora]

Especially because I dont use shaman for this fight
But both other spells are better in that part

[honest shale]

!wiki royal waterways

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Royal_Waterways

[gloomy scarab]

You find her in junk pits which has two points of access. The one in city cannot be opened until you open it from inside junk pit.
Go to Royal waterways and look around in the large room underneath the bench with a sign next to it.

[worthy peak]

Ddark invinc frames let you actually approach during face attacks

[warm aurora]

Yes

[bitter jolt]

moving out of the way has left the chat

[warm aurora]

I think using ddark instead of shrieks is what got my my absrad down

[worthy peak]

How are you planning on getting through those swords on approach?

[honest shale]

which often requires pausing damage to dodge the attack

[bitter jolt]

huh?

[bitter jolt]

not really, shade stalls, facedancing

[shrewd nymph]

Dmg loss

in plats

[worthy peak]

Well. Unless you can do that Ddark let's you play more aggressively there

[gloomy scarab]

@half thorn
Note that Godseeker is post-game content. There is no reward or upgrade to be gained from interacting with her besides personal challenge and completion %

[bitter jolt]

also im talking about how I play rad absrad why am i being critisized for not liking the use of ddark

[gloomy scarab]

Finish everything else in game before focusing on godhome

[bitter jolt]

I would never recommend a newer player to do absrad ddarkless

[worthy peak]

Cause uhh. You basically made contradictory claims

Like if you are not using Ddark for soul to damage. Then fireball doesn't work

[half thorn]

ik i am just asking bc i wanted to do ||p5||

[bitter jolt]

also shade soul good range for stalling to wait for her to come back

also flukenest

[worthy peak]

Didn't consider that...

[bitter jolt]

consider this: sword wall, i want to dash in the same direction to get closer

[gloomy scarab]

P5 is unlocked after completing pantheons 1-4 which require you beat every* boss in game

[bitter jolt]

after dash i fall into spike, so i shade cloak so i can get more of a facedance in after the stun finishes

would shriek work? yes but slow recovery also usually I'm pretty high up

[shrewd nymph]

adding the asterisk is so cool

[bitter jolt]

when I'm lower down I'll shriek stall instead

[shrewd nymph]

too few people acknowedge it

[worthy peak]

I don't quite understand this situation

[gloomy scarab]

Im talking about NKG not GPZ if that’s what you mean

[worthy peak]

How are spikes a problem if you are high up

[agile pewter]

Itemless* p5

[bitter jolt]

shade soul* and i meant swords

[shrewd nymph]

Well i was referring to nkg, gpz and a few others

[gloomy scarab]

P5 exclusives don’t count

[shrewd nymph]

No thanks

[zealous skiff]

And thk and nosk and like smth else

[gloomy scarab]

Oh Nosk I didn’t know

[shrewd nymph]

Thk rad arent needed

[gloomy scarab]

THK ugh

[zealous skiff]

Mantis lords ish

[gloomy scarab]

rad ugh. This is why I put an asterisk

[shrewd nymph]

if you mean to unlock p1-4 then you dont need like vfk or any dream bosses

[zealous skiff]

Yup

[shrewd nymph]

but to beat p1-4 you do

[gloomy scarab]

I did say beat ya

[honest shale]

tf

elaborate

[bitter jolt]

bv dashing is peak

[zealous skiff]

You dont need to fight mantis lords for p5 but like sob is basically just matis lords but a little faster

[bitter jolt]

you do need to fight them to unlock p5 right

for p2?

[honest shale]

they arent required for p2?

[warm aurora]

They are

Bosses you dont need to fight include
White defender, vengefly king, god tamer, Soul tyrant, lost kin, failed champion and the 7 godmaster exclusive bosses

And thk and the radiance

[zealous skiff]

oh i misunderstood te original saement mb

[warm aurora]

And nkg

[shrewd nymph]

Thats only not fighting in overworld

[warm aurora]

True

Well thk and the radiance

But all the others still need to be fought

Zote ig

[split stirrup]

i love hk but the thing is it looks so exhausting

does it get smoother after the first stage and more lore and interesting stuff

[zinc iris]

Lore isn't told to u very directly

[tropic nest]

earlygame is slow and meh yeah

[zinc iris]

U have to piece it together

[brave kite]

watch a video of someone explaining it

after you finish the game

[split stirrup]

dang bruh

[red jungle]

Yes

[wary hound]

i just got a blood nose for the first time in my life

but it doesnt reALLY count cause i aciddently scratched the shit out of a part of my nose

[wary perch]

guys im so mad at myself

i cleared all the enemis on my delicate flower path and didnt sit on a bench on my way there to not respawn them

and then sat on the bench at the grey mourner 😭

[edgy kraken]

@hybrid fern did u start hk

[wary perch]

at least ive beat the watcher knights now

[molten yoke]

Oh god

[molten yoke]

Nice!!

[eternal geyser]

It is not difficult even with enemies, if you have some passive damage dealer like grimm child or shield

I think I did it on my fourth try without clearing the pathway. The second try I actually tried to quit to menu so I will spawn back to queen's garden bench, only then I realised the game saves itself

Oh forgot to mention grubfly ellgy is also quite useful

[patent rain]

Four trys is alot considering the path

I first tried it with path cleared

[hybrid fern]

yea i started silksong using lutris (ik i was gonna do hk but i switched)

and im still at the very start trying to learn the controls

[edgy kraken]

what is lutris

[edgy kraken]

one downside of silksong is hornet doesnt say SHAW!

[naive dew]

why can i not give you a flower dawg

[eternal geyser]

I have skill issue.

First try I was stupid. I didn't read the quest properly and used stag. Second try lost in city of tears. Third try I just got hit in the thorns just before the grave

[hybrid fern]

it's an installer for games on linux cuz i dont use windows and im broke xD

[quartz cave]

evening

[worthy peak]

Do white flower quest after P5 imo

Not cause it's that hard

[naive dew]

bro i have the flower

[patent rain]

The thorns almost got me, but I went through resting grounds-blue lake shortcut and then fog canyon

[hybrid fern]

oooooooooooooooooooooo omg it says that in hk?

[edgy kraken]

🙏 🙏

[worthy peak]

But because you want it to take really few attempts cause it sucks

[edgy kraken]

im on windows

[edgy kraken]

ye and ADINO

[hybrid fern]

ye i figured

[indigo grail]

You need to do a few more Pantheons for her to accept it

[wary perch]

gus im outta fight the hollow knight for the first time

im scared shitless lmao

[hybrid fern]

im still at the very start and it has only made two sounds

[patent rain]

How many pantheons before practicing bindings to get lifeblood

[edgy kraken]

hk doesnt even make sounds bro

[hybrid fern]

im just obsessing over the art

[edgy kraken]

i checked out godseekers and it turns out they're seeking gods

[edgy kraken]

beutiful

[naive dew]

i know how it works

[hybrid fern]

dang i wonder

[molten yoke]

You’ll do fine, his attacks are slow and very shade dashable

[patent rain]

He was hard the first few times (when ur like me and have 7 masks, 6 charm notches, and one soul vessel)

But then hes definitely on the easier side

[naive dew]

ive done true 100% before

[hybrid fern]

very bootiful

[naive dew]

i gave it to her butg it just required restarting the gmae

[edgy kraken]

ye i think ppl say its an up from the prev hk

[wary perch]

i staggered it once and then died lol

[molten yoke]

Oof

What charms u using?

[wary perch]

i have 8 masks, 10 notches, 3 vessels and alll charms except for unbreakable strength, hiveblood and kingsoul

[worthy peak]

You got this.
Confidence is key

[wary perch]

long nail, shaman stone, soul catcher and quickslash

[wary perch]

and carefree melody, i havent even beated tmg

[indigo grail]

How??

[wary perch]

i have 96% completion asw

[molten yoke]

I’d remove long nail personally, I find it does almost nothing

[wary perch]

like, thats one i dont have

i only have grimmchild, first stage that can damae

[indigo grail]

Oh, thought you were using it without beating Grimm (not possible)

[wary perch]

yea ik lol

[molten yoke]

Btw beating tmg gives a good item

[wary perch]

what do u reccommend swapping it with?

[wary perch]

yea ik what i can get from the fight

i just havent beaten him cuz i kinda suck lmao

and im on coiled nail cuz i cant beat nosk either

[molten yoke]

Oof

[molten yoke]

Do you have upgraded spells?

[wary perch]

yea, all 3

[indigo grail]

Oof, good luck with both

[naive dew]

https://tenor.com/view/tsukasa-lucky-star-low-quality-gif-5211025191490784510

[molten yoke]

Ok then keep shaman. Hmm, what to replace longnail with….

[wary perch]

spelltwister?

[molten yoke]

I’d say either spell twister or sharp shadow

[wary perch]

or remove and swap soul catcher for soul eater?

[eternal geyser]

Then spell build should be fine if you are confident.

[worthy peak]

Replacing longnail ?!?! Heresy!

[patent rain]

How do u unlock the dream version of bosses in hog

[worthy peak]

Also spell twister not sharp shadow. Please not sharp shadow

[shrewd nymph]

Ew no

[molten yoke]

Probably not, twister or sshadow imo

[worthy peak]

Just pogo not shade dash.

[hybrid fern]

well ofc they had to upgrade the game if they were making a new one

[patent rain]

Morning

[edgy kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842584806566789120/1329908376687083651/SNAEKK.gif

[worthy peak]

It gives you soul and let's you get more attacks after due to less time getting back to hit them

[celest zinc]

Hello

[wary perch]

i died before first stagger lmao

[worthy peak]

Hiii

[wary perch]

he shrieked?

[compact wasp]

smh I have given so many p3 ab attemps at this point that doing p5 with all charms on feels like cheating

I am not used to feeling strong anymore

[wary perch]

and then i got imapled by the floor things

[molten yoke]

Oof

[compact wasp]

what in the actual fuck is this situation

[wary perch]

im kinda sad cuz i wanna get dream no more but not sure if i can handle traitor lord and white palace

[compact wasp]

you can

[wary perch]

havent tried traitor lord and found white palace miserable

[karmic niche]

is it worth abyss shriek grimm when he shows up in p5

[compact wasp]

oh white palace is meant to be miserable you are fine

[compact wasp]

if you have the skill for it, then sure

[karmic niche]

if i have enf soul obvsly

[compact wasp]

it is always worth it

that's just free 80 damage even without shaman stone

[molten yoke]

Traitor lord is a pretty simple boss imo, plus shade dash is broken against him

[compact wasp]

but ye traitor lord should be fine

cuz you can have literally max gear before fighting him

he kinda just..dies before you even realize that you are fighting a boss

[molten yoke]

I think I beat traitor lord with 6 masks, channeled nail, white spells, and like 7 notches, so he’s pretty easy

[dusky coral]

traitor lord versus ten thousand tikitks who would win

[compact wasp]

have you considered that you are a god?

[wary perch]

mmmm but i havent beat hive knight with all my gear lmao

[compact wasp]

what is your gear rn?

[molten yoke]

Potentially. I did beat rad pv in like 2 attempts on a random morning

[compact wasp]

okay that is the one area I have you beat

[molten yoke]

He’s not that bad, js kinda annoying

[wary perch]

coiled nail, almost all charms, 10 notches, 3 vessels, 8 masks, upgraded spells and a patridge in a pear tree

[compact wasp]

hmm

you can have 11 notches

[wary perch]

ik

[molten yoke]

Also I had no extra soul vessels until after I beat radiance lol

[compact wasp]

and what about shade cloak?

[compact wasp]

cool

[molten yoke]

Probably since they have monomon

[compact wasp]

we will appreciate you later. Let's help this person first

[compact wasp]

and what gear do you usually run?

charms and all?

[wary perch]

mark of pride, shaman stone and soul eater is by usual boss fight kit

[compact wasp]

no unbreakable strength?

[molten yoke]

Nah they ain’t got strength sadly

[wary perch]

or long nail, shaman, soul catcher, quickslash and spelltwister or smth

[wary perch]

getting geo for ir

[compact wasp]

how many relics do you have?

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

[compact wasp]

you can sell them all

[wary perch]

not many

[molten yoke]

Yh it’s awful. Took me a good 30 mins to grind it

[compact wasp]

just send a picture

[wary perch]

gimme a sec, eating an applw and gotta remove seeds from core so my bunnies can enjoy it as a treat

[molten yoke]

Okiii

[compact wasp]

okay!

[molten yoke]

Hope the bunnies enjoy it :3

[compact wasp]

congrats on white palace btw

[wary perch]

i havent beaten it tho

i just accessed it

[compact wasp]

just a question tehn

[wary perch]

lmao

[compact wasp]

were you using mark of pride?

and long nail?

[wary perch]

cant remember

[compact wasp]

mark of pride, long nail and sharp shadow. Don't use these charms

heck add dash master to that list

[molten yoke]

Finally someone that also didnt use mop for palace

[civic pawn]

I have decided that I enjoy the first game a little bit more than SS

[compact wasp]

my memory of white palace is a bit blurry because I mostly do path of pain runs

[civic pawn]

Also, is it a hot take that I love The Knight more than Hornet?

[patent rain]

Why was that godseeker in junkpit locked up anyway

[compact wasp]

when you mean more than SS, what crest were you using in SS?

[molten yoke]

Nah, I agree personally

[copper glacier]

same

[civic pawn]

A bunch tbh

I still love SS alot

[compact wasp]

interesting, good to know that you weren't just a reaper crest user

[civic pawn]

But I enjoy the first game a bit more

[compact wasp]

can I ask a very..basic question?

[civic pawn]

Nah I experimented with a lot of them lol

[wary perch]

sure lol

[compact wasp]

why did you not use fragile strength to beat the second colosseum over and over again to get 15000 geo instead of giving it away immediately

[wary perch]

uhhh

im dumb lol

[compact wasp]

understandable

[wary perch]

i did fragile greed first cuz in my head i was like, "well more money means i get get the other 2 faster"

[molten yoke]

Why Colo? I did the great hoppers personally

[compact wasp]

You can grind 15000 geo in like 15 minutes in oclo

colo*

even less tbh

[molten yoke]

Same but I had enough relics to do that immediately

[wary perch]

and then i accidentally gave divine fragile heart instead of strength

[compact wasp]

ah so its just the natural selection

[wary perch]

yup

[molten yoke]

But it’s riskier. If u die, that’s a lot of time wasted

[wary perch]

im not the brightest

[compact wasp]

then don't die

second colosseum is kinda like..nothing with near max gear

[wary perch]

i might go grind 8k geo tbh

[civic pawn]

What do you guys think of the final bosses? The Hollow Knight and Radiance are my favorite final bosses of all time tbh

[wary perch]

i cant consistently do conqueror so ill do warrior

[compact wasp]

also remove soul catcher and spell twister at the saem time

that's kinda just a waste

[worthy peak]

I thought great hoppers were faster?

[compact wasp]

ye but colosseum is atleast engaging

[edgy kraken]

i js grinded 3000 geo and turns out it wasnt enough for sly

[compact wasp]

great hoppers makes my brain melt out of my ears

[worthy peak]

Ohh. Yeah that makes sense

[edgy kraken]

will grind more to get those 2 charms and simple key

[molten yoke]

Am I the only one who didn’t mind the monotony of the hoppers?

[compact wasp]

then don't do colo

warrior is just 1k geo. That's too much time

[wary perch]

alr

[compact wasp]

just do the great hoppers then that would be better

[wary perch]

also should i try gre prince zote?

[worthy peak]

Honestly I don't consider that cause why are you grinding for these charms? By that point you probably are in godhome already

[eternal geyser]

This is a good build, I think you can do with this.

[molten yoke]

NO

[patent rain]

Is the collector the only fight in which ascended actually changes the moves

[civic pawn]

Anyone?

[compact wasp]

do you like gambling?

[worthy peak]

Uhh I think so.

[compact wasp]

honestly hard to say cuz they are no longer the final bosses in my head

[worthy peak]

Wait no

[wary perch]

or maybe ill just do ascnded mantis lords for a bit to relax cuz i find themkinda soothing'

[patent rain]

Normal hoppers are better, almost 700 per min if ur quick

[worthy peak]

Also flukemarm

[patent rain]

What changes

[worthy peak]

First 6 have more health

[compact wasp]

wait

[patent rain]

O

[compact wasp]

birb just go and find grubs

get teh 31 grubs lol

[civic pawn]

Aside from the Pantheons lol

[wary perch]

or should i get 9th mask first, just need to delicate flower

[compact wasp]

get the grubs. That's a lot of money too

[wary perch]

i fucked up before cuz i cleared enemies on my path and then benched at grey mourner cuz i forgot

[wary perch]

have elegy

[worthy peak]

Please don't call it like gambling... It encourages not learning to deal with the attacks I think...

Maybe that's just me though...

[compact wasp]

I mean sometimes we call absolute radiance gambling even thoughh many of us have done her radiant

its just a joke tbh

[worthy peak]

I heavily disagree with that...

[wary perch]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[molten yoke]

If you want gambling, uumuu

[compact wasp]

she is consistent. She is not random

we know that.

[worthy peak]

See... I didn't read do you like gambling like that.

[tacit spear]

You could say using cfm...

[wary perch]

imma try delicate flower again just to see if i can do it

[tacit spear]

Not the boss itself...

[compact wasp]

birb sincerely where did the money go?

[molten yoke]

Alrighty

[civic pawn]

Hollow Knight looks so beautiful on switch 2 don't you guys agree?

[wary perch]

ill clear my path of enemies

[wary perch]

well, i bought a tonne of charms and the i probably died before my shade in the hive 😭

[compact wasp]

ah, consequences of forgetting dream gate exists

understandable

[wary perch]

i have my dream gate it hive knight rn

and that was before i got awoken dream nail

[compact wasp]

yee for sure

[tacit spear]

It looks decent but switch one looks nicer (Having a smaller screen amplifies the effect ^_^)

[wary perch]

hive knight runback pmo sm that i went and fought all of the warrior dreams plus broken vessel just to remove runbac

[molten yoke]

Oh damn lol

[wary perch]

they were all pretty easy except for markoth

[civic pawn]

Ig I can see that lol

[compact wasp]

also birb are you aware of the quick cast button?

[molten yoke]

Thankfully I didn’t die to give knight lol

[wary perch]

yes

[compact wasp]

okay that's a huge relief

[wary perch]

should i stream my delicate flower attempt?

lmao

[molten yoke]

If u want to

Also can u send u a friend request? Ur pretty chill

[wary perch]

sure

[compact wasp]

honestly birb seems really nice

[wary perch]

thx lol

[molten yoke]

Sweet thx

[tacit spear]

I did all of that but I'm still unable to do Hive Knight without at least one runback >_< (Can't get dreamgate bc of no charms run...)

[wary perch]

why be mean when u can be nice 🤷

[molten yoke]

Yh birb’s been really attentive and kind lol

[molten yoke]

My motto

[tacit spear]

Could I send a request (Not too be weird)

[compact wasp]

yeah. I am sorry if I came across as mean though. I am..just really bad at talking that doesn't come across as condescending when it comes to explaining things

[wary perch]

sure

[wary perch]

nah alg lmao

[indigo grail]

Dreamgate is an ability, how does Charms factor in? No picking them up?

[tacit spear]

Not picking them up ^_^

[molten yoke]

I’m better at talking and explaining over text because I sound condescending irl lol

[tacit spear]

Grimmchild is mandatory but you can drop it with banishing ^_^

[indigo grail]

Sounds really hard and locks you out of a lot

[tacit spear]

You can still do p5 ^_^

And r5 ^_^

[indigo grail]

You need Voidheart for p5

[sweet blaze]

mandatory daily @real pasture ping

[compact wasp]

honestly I think we both need to work on different things. You accidentally sorta like nearly invalidate some struggles without meaning to by saying "nah they came easy to me" and I need to work on just not appearing like a cold brick when it comes to talking

[tacit spear]

Wait you do? (I might be a idiot)

[sweet blaze]

yes

[wary perch]

aight, streaming

[indigo grail]

Yes

[tacit spear]

Good luck ^_^

[sweet blaze]

cant fight the might of the radiance without a heart of void smth smth