hk-discussion

[naive dew]

imo

[open egret]

i just went through the || abyss || and
wow
i did not expect 2 upgrades in one place

[honest shale]

hk bingo

also uncultured

[zinc iris]

now what's bingo

[foggy sable]

it was speedy

overworld feels so wrong

where movement items

[zinc iris]

Do u guess stuff or smthn

[foggy sable]

I spent like 15 seconds trying to c dash off a wall

[zinc iris]

Or race

[shrewd nymph]

you get a board that you have to complete

[foggy sable]

and had no c dash

[honest shale]

irab flukemarm

[shrewd nymph]

#hk-discussion message like such

[foggy sable]

please no

[shrewd nymph]

and you typically race another player from a fresh save

[quartz cave]

gmcb

[zinc iris]

Oh seems fun

[foggy sable]

I should get back into bingy

[shrewd nymph]

buddy

[foggy sable]

but godhome challenges are there

[shrewd nymph]

well past morning

[zinc iris]

If ur paired with equal level players

[quartz cave]

i wanna eeewp

[foggy sable]

also that was pb by about 6 minutes for me I think

[quartz cave]

ive may have slept a total of 4 hrs in the past 2 days

but its ok we ball

[honest shale]

you have a choice and tha matter

[quartz cave]

:gleeful:

[honest shale]

do it or dont do it idgaf

[zinc iris]

This must be what chomp says when he says hop ig

[honest shale]

no

[foggy sable]

anyone who knows how to play overworld tends to win by a lot

[worthy peak]

Sleep

[naive dew]

when he says hop its geogeuessr

[honest shale]

he prob means geoguesser

[quartz cave]

i have a lab report to write

[foggy sable]

I know

[zinc iris]

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

[foggy sable]

when you get back to knowing how to play overworld

I live in a state of denial sorry

[honest shale]

peace and love guys

[zinc iris]

Id have thought grey wud be worse in overworld

Cuz she's always in godhome

[foggy sable]

anything which likes an acid skip I'm done for

[honest shale]

melone just washed

[foggy sable]

this was a kind board for me because it was mostly skipless

I can't do spunnel, acid skips, epogo

[zinc iris]

Do u start with base gear or ?

[foggy sable]

I do like to fight the bosses

so maybe there is some bias when choosing lines

I just lean towards boss lines

[naive dew]

i am a little washed

[foggy sable]

I have wanted to get into speedrunning...

[naive dew]

(very)

[foggy sable]

but after I'm done with godhome

I just want that one evil run then I can move on

it would feel bad to leave it where it is

I will simply become good enough to get the run quickly

(delusion perhaps)

[worthy peak]

Hmm... That reminds me. Where do I get narts in on gpz?

[worthy peak]

You got this!

[foggy sable]

cyclone on the ceiling drop mostly

[worthy peak]

Is Rab gpz mostly the same as normal gpz then

[foggy sable]

this whole rabono HoG thing has been a nice change of pace

and has translated to bingy fairly well I feel

[foggy sable]

more focus on the minions but pretty much

fast

[worthy peak]

And here I was getting all worried. :D

[foggy sable]

I got all the room layouts confused

it was a bit sad

[storm flax]

@foggy sable

[naive dew]

@storm flax

[storm flax]

@naive dew

[naive dew]

hiiiii

[foggy sable]

I did see, it has been interesting

[storm flax]

Geelong supplies 90% of its fuel to vic are u guys even ok atp 😭

[foggy sable]

dive was correct maybe

[foggy sable]

feul is a fairly liquid supply product so it can be moved between states fairly easily

[storm flax]

Yea ik :3

[foggy sable]

I should have got dashmaster tbh

[foggy sable]

there is potential problems where the futures price of oil is lower than the current so refining may be unprofitable or something like that if I remember correctly

[zinc iris]

Did y'all stop?

[foggy sable]

so feul prices may go up soon

[foggy sable]

yep

[zinc iris]

[naive dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393970458709332121/1493987831243341864/kita2.gif

its first to 3 lines cleared

[foggy sable]

I would lose lockout so hard

because I've never played it and suck at earlygame routing

it is just so many things to think about at once

and even in 3l it is hard

scary

I just want to see if the practice did anything at all

it feels odd to play

the bosses don't take 5-10 minutes

[zinc iris]

Time for R5AB then

[honest shale]

yes they take a reasonable amount of time

[foggy sable]

a small r5 run

[keen thorn]

Shouldn't 3L be worse because it's more early game?

[naive dew]

no 3l is better for her since i havev nt played it in a year

[zinc iris]

Hello Genio

[naive dew]

@keen thorn

[foggy sable]

well not really because I would lose be much slower for all the early routes

and it would be sad

[molten yoke]

Haiiiiiiii

I’m finally home :3

[foggy sable]

how many hours?

[foggy sable]

hiii

[molten yoke]

Hruuuu?

[keen thorn]

Hi

[foggy sable]

good hru

[keen thorn]

@naive dew

[naive dew]

@keen thorn hiii

[tulip narwhal]

yowaddup bocchi

[molten yoke]

Good thx!!!

[foggy sable]

yayy

[naive dew]

yowaddup

[honest shale]

didnt you go to sleep?

[tulip narwhal]

Yes

Im sleping rn zzzzz

[honest shale]

oh alright then

[foggy sable]

this is so op

charms are so good

and not having 4 nail damage but that is an aside

[inner flicker]

Why is the gpz quest line so weird…

[foggy sable]

poor collector

[inner flicker]

Bretta didn’t glaze me this hard when I was cool to her

Zote ain’t even allat 😭

But he’s a silly guy

[light stirrup]

Hey there

[foggy sable]

wk will be weird

I forgot how to fight them full equipment

but it works

[stiff loom]

Is it normal for a 16yr to swing in a playground :3

[inner flicker]

This weekend im split between silksong, fighting gpz and the pantheons, and the new mario wonder content

[honest shale]

probably idk

[queen crag]

Anya

[inner flicker]

Absolutely yeah

Why not

[stiff loom]

Hell yeah!

[inner flicker]

Swinging is fun, brings you back to better times

[honest shale]

ima eep now

[foggy sable]

sly not taking 60 nail arts in phase 2 is very nice

600 hp in radiant

and 10 nail damage per nail art

it is

[inner flicker]

Is sly P4

[naive dew]

3

[inner flicker]

Ah

[keen thorn]

I'm such an idiot
I thought I had lab rn it's next week

[molten yoke]

Haiiiii hruuu?

[foggy sable]

ai manip with full equipment is new for me

0

I haven't fought pv in ages I think

qol cutscene skip scared me ngl

[light stirrup]

Was thinking about rogue planets, and came up with a book idea. I can tell in dms

[foggy sable]

I've picked up some bad absrad habits

[molten yoke]

Oooooh yes pls

[foggy sable]

of being unable to not be greedy with qs

pretty weird to just do a run that was nice

but perhaps the practice did something

in my brain r5 is still really difficult so just doing good attempts like that is strange

overtraining bosses seems to work at least

one day soon maybe

r5 isn't a matter of able to usually it is just being mildly inconvenienced for long enough

or extremely inconvenienced

I still have to go for 2 in a row but like, it is so boring

the first run doesn't matter and the second is stressful

well I said I would a while ago

but got distracted by something or other

it is rather boring

the single boss challenges are quite fun

aside from the fact that they take like 10 minutes each

there is not much left in godhome that is palatable so like

soon something else

learning all the overworld bingy skips

is what I would do beforehand

because it is so sad doing bingy and everyone else is doing fun skips and you just can't

like skipping dung defender opens up viable qg routes

or rather knowing qga does that

I can't do anything except blue lake and greenpath fireball and crossroads acid

which is why I want to learn a bunch of overworld skips

"free" timesave

it costs effort learning though

so not entirely free

[molten yoke]

…that is so much to read lol

[dry granite]

Wow u wrote a whole eassy

[light meadow]

where exactly should i farm geo in kingdom's edge?

[foggy sable]

that is not an essay...

[dry granite]

Hlo btw

[foggy sable]

it is one side of a conversation

[naive dew]

thats a small essayt

[foggy sable]

perhaps

spike tunnel is a cool skip to learn

I knew how to do it once, years ago

but no longer

[vernal knot]

Hello everyone

[dry granite]

What u can skip?

[foggy sable]

dung defender with spike tunnel skip

I said this when I was new to bingy and it is even more true now, going from being decent at godhome to not being able to navigate well in overworld is some whiplash

[dry granite]

Idk its my first time playing

I'm at 2nd hornet fight

I'm getting cooked

[foggy sable]

doing bingy with in form speedrunners and bingyers makes it even more apparent

also everyone on bingycord is really good so finding a reference is hard

nothing like feeling good about your lines and someone is done 20 minutes faster

it is good learning though

it is better on boards with not so clear lines

because then you get to see into all the thought process of routing

I remember doing colo 1 in my first bingy, good times

[dry granite]

WoW

[foggy sable]

the hard save routing is interesting

colo is a hard save which is unfair

it is already a bad enough goal

[dry granite]

I'm not understanding anything

[foggy sable]

it is fun to do low equipment

goam and garpede entries I remember going for as well

before I knew how bad they were

it needs hunter, dive, deepnest

[dry granite]

My brain is getting hurt

[foggy sable]

just bingy talk

not on a board where you don't get dive or hunter...

it was a tragic knowledge check

I didn't know you needed to get hunters journal or dive but did know the locations

learning experiences

in front of all the good bingy players it was so sad

[dry granite]

I don't think hunters journal is important

[foggy sable]

they were nice but I was embarrassed

it was at the end of the run too so too late to change route

just the walk of shame to get dive and hunter

good times, getting back into bingy would be fun

but it is always like "do I want to derust godhome later"

it sucks being close to getting runs because the inclination is to keep at it even when it will take ages

either be far away or get the run imo

[dry granite]

That's some yapping

[foggy sable]

yes

the plan for taking breaks is to find worse challenges than the run I want so that running it is enjoyable again

which has a success rate

that is some

[dry granite]

U should write a book hahaha

[foggy sable]

a better alternative to a book would be my assignment I'm not doing yet

I did go on a bingy arc early this year

choom made me

[dry granite]

I have no idea what u are talking about

[wispy sky]

should i spend a whole day practicing absrad before going back to p5

[foggy sable]

choom was in all my early bingy games

it was good

[dry granite]

What is absrad?

[foggy sable]

I do want to learn any%

just because sometime

[shrewd nymph]

Absolute radiance

[foggy sable]

it will be after learning the bingy skips

[split zenith]

a boss

[shrewd nymph]

wtf ||n||onsenf in hkdisc

[dry granite]

Oh

[shrewd nymph]

This is like league of legends lane swap

[split zenith]

rarely

[naive dew]

lune

[shrewd nymph]

Hi melone

[foggy sable]

pb of 52 minutes so it will be fun to run for about 4 runs until it gets lower

[shrewd nymph]

Wait ur in vc, what u doing

[naive dew]

me and grey played bingy

[foggy sable]

it was fun

[shrewd nymph]

guh

i forget you dabble in overw*orld

[naive dew]

ok lune

[split zenith]

ok lune

[foggy sable]

if by dabble you mean play like 1 hour randomly every month yes

[shrewd nymph]

guh i just spilt my water everywhere ggs

[naive dew]

dumbass

[shrewd nymph]

mightve been karma

[naive dew]

go to bed

[shrewd nymph]

okay no its genuinely not my fault but ive done ts like 5 times

[shrewd nymph]

My bed is fucking soaked

[foggy sable]

the water is not meant to be on the bed

hope that helps

there are so many fun hk things to do

[shrewd nymph]

Left half is fine

[foggy sable]

and maybe 1 is in godhome

[naive dew]

sleep on only the left half

[shrewd nymph]

guh i might

[foggy sable]

I have enjoyed most of the rabono fights

it is just the last about 4 have been terrible

[shrewd nymph]

Shouldnt have done the boring ones last

[foggy sable]

hitless bingy imo

[foggy sable]

I didn't expect soul tyrant, hornet 2, and one other I forget to be so bad

choom is running hitless 3L yes

I was running hitless overworld but thk is impossible

I have 4 pb thk

so I gave up on all skills

because 2 runs in a row dying to thk is good enough

just stick pv in overworld and it is so easy

it has a roof

and it can hit the roof and bounce down at you

I lost a hitless all skills like that

so am marginally salty

all skills being all movement, spells, nail arts

it is a good run

does ghostbusters include cloth

who even knows

true but cloth isn't a ghost in normal state so

it probably does

[zinc iris]

Who u talking to?

[foggy sable]

melone

[zinc iris]

[naive dew]

shes using here to converse in the vc

[foggy sable]

I keep meaning to run r5 nail binding

voice channels don't have text channels which sucks

anyway I have pb absrad but running it is so uninteresting

[zinc iris]

They do but not in this server

For some reason

[foggy sable]

I find charmless more fun tbh

but it is much easier than charmless

charmless is much harder

but it is more enjoyable so I run it more

soul binding was first try which was so funny

it is 13

there is just no incentive to run it

charm binding playstyle is fun and nail art heavy

I'm a qs hater

when I do nail binding I don't run qs or strength or sbody

because the playstyle is so uninteresting

r5 no sbody used to be standard?

run thorns in the 1 notch slot

you could

going back to doing r5 with weird charms could be good, just to have "evidence" to back up claiming they are good charms

it is clear evidence thorns is good in r5

and fury is good in r5

[agile pewter]

Nerd

[foggy sable]

it does mean that

[foggy sable]

...

itemless fights are so boring

at least with rabono there is full movement

[foggy sable]

if I go further into unfun challenges I'd go 1 nail damage fights

[agile pewter]

League.

[foggy sable]

wk takes 900 nail hits so like

what is 3600 in comparison

wk rabono took almost the same time as absrad

[agile pewter]

Not flukemarm

That, i can promise.

[foggy sable]

and stole several of the precious stock of brain cells

[foggy sable]

boring and/or unfun

there I fixed it

[agile pewter]

Thats still wrong i think

[foggy sable]

I think it is correct

1 nail damage non radiant absrad could be fun

fun having a very warped definition

[agile pewter]

Anyway who plays league again?

Right, @quartz cave @wispy willow

[foggy sable]

once you get low equipment there are not many fun options left

which is tragic

anybad

I'd rather redo rabono wk

[agile pewter]

Grey, i have to ask

Who were you talking to.

[foggy sable]

melone

anyway I have to sleep because it is very late

so I'll leave now

[agile pewter]

Baii

[foggy sable]

gn

[molten yoke]

Goodnightt!! Sleep well!!!❤️

[void beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-5775979070500277075

[hasty oxide]

LeonHK 😻🌹

[odd salmon]

That's Leroy, not leon

[umbral night]

Where do i find info on how to install livesplit and hksplitmaker?

I have some time today so I'll do that

[elfin wren]

It's Hungry Knight

But as a cat

[dusky coral]

[inner crow]

Unpopular opinion: even though pv is harder than sly, p3 is harder than p4

[hollow nova]

agree

[thin spear]

1

[hollow nova]

I think it becomes kinda clear on AB because Collector and GPZ are both nasty

Galien Hornet and Sly are also kinda tough

[molten yoke]

Haii

[inner crow]

Uumuu is kinda hard as well and personally it was the first time I met godtamer

[wet cosmos]

i actually agree

i struggled so more with p3 than p4

[indigo grail]

Agreed 10000000000%

[keen thorn]

wtf what is this

since when is it here

[empty lynx]

Since forever genio

[naive dew]

like the beginninge of time

[worthy peak]

!wiki descending dark

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Descending_Dark

[worthy peak]

:( doesnt tell me where the hitboxes are

why the hell does zotes stagger move him forward a bit when it primarily makes him go backwards!

ok this may be more painful then it seemed it would be at first.

[dry creek]

hi chat just took the test it went horrible. not that i did horrible i just hated it

[warm aurora]

To anyone who beat absrad, any golden tip that made the biggest difference

I am stuck

[dry creek]

look at my kitty

[copper glacier]

Hate. Hate. Let me tell you how much ive grown to HATE [tests] since I began to live...

[dry creek]

and i began to hate. your questions, your light, your silence, and your difficulty...

[zinc iris]

Radiant or normal

[warm aurora]

Normal

I just can not

You know how long I have been on this

[zinc iris]

Used a cheese build

[warm aurora]

Thats what I just started considering

The healing build

I should be able to do pv with any build

[zinc iris]

If u rlly wanna do it u shd
Be sure to practice pv with it tho

[warm aurora]

I also tried to swap out strength/quickslash for grubsong twister

[warm aurora]

I will be trying it now

[umbral night]

https://github.com/hk-speedrunning/HK-Resources
I found where to get livesplit from speedrun disc
Has everything

[zinc iris]

As for the " honorable" way
Just practice and keep practicing

[warm aurora]

I know

[zinc iris]

Enddeous watching my rad abs rad play helped me a bunch

So maybe someone seeing u play could help

[quartz cave]

i read that as endonuclease ggs

[zinc iris]

Ask Oswald

[quartz cave]

what

[zinc iris]

Go write ur lab report smh

[quartz cave]

i was mentored by nonsenf for radabsrad

[quartz cave]

dinner time

[zinc iris]

He's built different

[quartz cave]

or breakfast in my standards

[zinc iris]

What u having ?

[quartz cave]

but its dinner time

[quartz cave]

its like a dish with rice peas and ground beef

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[zinc iris]

Bulking type meal

[umbral night]

Protein

[quartz cave]

[quartz cave]

@naive dew

[zinc iris]

Nice , did u cook?

[quartz cave]

no thats a pic from internet

dad made dinner today cause everyone else was asleep

i passed out on my desk (maybe)

[zinc iris]

[quartz cave]

idk what happened but i timeskipped like an hour

[dry creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239941630400921712/1300808841860087888/1276014246542573629.gif

[zinc iris]

Crashed from ur insane caffeine usage

[quartz cave]

no its that ive slept 4 hrs total the last 2 days

well like 5 hrs now

[naive dew]

HIII

[zinc iris]

Why

[quartz cave]

hiiiiii hru

[dry creek]

you should sleep more,,, you can go bald from lack of sleep

[umbral night]

Sleep

[zinc iris]

Who's gonna tell him

[prime dew]

Hi

[zinc iris]

Hello

[dry creek]

is oswald already osbald

[zinc iris]

Allegedly

[odd salmon]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

tuesday i went with mum to the er and stayed with her so i couldnt sleep thru the night until wednesday night, but then i had to study so i slept at 3 am and woke up at 6 and again for school

now im here

or wait my timeline is messed up

anyways

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

[quartz cave]

@odd salmon

[zinc iris]

I see, well hopefully ur mom's doing better now.

[umbral night]

Are obs add ons like livesplit a cause of concern if I'm worried about having frame drops

Or is it not very heavy?

[quartz cave]

mhm she got prescribed unholy amounts of antibiotics so shes already doing better

its 6 pills à 1g of penicillin per day for the next 10 days 🐊

[zinc iris]

[wispy willow]

swain wtf

[agile pewter]

Wdym

? :|

[wispy willow]

nvm

im regarded

[dry creek]

woah

do not say that

or at least dont say what i figured you were trying to say

[agile pewter]

Im ym

[dry creek]

Im ym

moment

[agile pewter]

67

[dry creek]

seis siete

[quartz cave]

omg six seven six seven six seven

[dry creek]

six seven six seven six seven

[quartz cave]

that is true

[agile pewter]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDN6JltbQAQiK_2.gif

[wispy willow]

no

[dry creek]

actually yes

[wispy willow]

wait wtf why did i queue ranked

fuck i dont want to play ranked rn

muscle memory 😭

[light meadow]

how difficult is path of pain comparing it to super meat boy?

[wispy willow]

@mateusfccp

[worthy peak]

371/1400

[quartz cave]

guh i wanna play

[dry creek]

salt and vinegar chips yay

[worthy peak]

That could have been it if i didnt decide to ddark...

[wispy willow]

I made an NA acc

we can both play lagged

[quartz cave]

how much is ur lag on LAS anyways

[delicate coral]

whats this for

[worthy peak]

GPZ

[delicate coral]

hi os

[delicate coral]

gl

[worthy peak]

thanks :D

[delicate coral]

unfortunate

did you ddark into something

what happened

[wispy willow]

LAS -> NA?

[worthy peak]

Im just not used to leaving zotes hitbox after a ddark basically

[delicate coral]

did you dash into him

[worthy peak]

So when i ddarked i defaulted to shade cloaking out. And just followed the shockwave

[delicate coral]

rip

[delicate coral]

how come you got kb from ddark there

[worthy peak]

So i ddarked cause i was stuck in a corner and zote was about to come crashing down...

And i panicked.

Zote landed on top of me...

So to get out i needed to do something.

The correct choice was jump

my choice was SPAM MORE INVINC FRAMES!

[delicate coral]

i see

yeno but reflexive dashing is very real

[worthy peak]

Which just like doesn't work if it keeps you in hitboxes for even longer...

[quartz cave]

what dat mean

[delicate coral]

yeah.. for dash since you lose invinicibility after the dash ends and you're stuck in the animation from the start its easy to dash into things 🫠

[quartz cave]

dont u play on LAS originally

[delicate coral]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

@delicate coral

[delicate coral]

hru

[worthy peak]

Im blamming the ddark cause i make silly dash mistakes all the time... Its not as often I use ddark in that spot.

[delicate coral]

makes sense

i'm sure you'll get it soon

just need no zote shenanigans

[worthy peak]

tall order when the fight lasts like 4 times longer

[earnest apex]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-foxes-cute-red-tummy-gif-5501340194263875238

[wispy willow]

If i play in NA i get 150 ping on LAS its 30

[delicate coral]

wtf is your profile

[earnest apex]

I have no idea

[delicate coral]

😭

[wispy willow]

yeah i dont understand your question

[delicate coral]

mathy i dont think either of you are on the same page

[quartz cave]

buh im js wondering if ur internet is fast enough to survive playing on a further server

cause i know ppl that have bad internet service and play on 80 ms on their local servers

so when they play on a different server they get absolutely fucked over by the 300 ms i think

[fallow grotto]

money money money

money money money

hi it me Sugeetam today I am blessing the chat with my presense

<magically makes everyone active>

[opaque citrus]

i've been practicing charmless nail only pv for like a day (9 hours in a row) and i kinda got consistent at it yay

[fallow grotto]

yes

I have already done this

the best tip is to deal damage

😁 👍

[opaque citrus]

the best tip i got is to not panic

[delicate coral]

i mean i think the most important thing is getting used to pogoing

even generally for pv as a whole

[delicate coral]

take a break lol

[opaque citrus]

i finally did it

[opaque citrus]

the thing is i can rad pv consistently with charms, but charmless was uuhh

[delicate coral]

nice

try jumpless pv

[delicate coral]

i mean charmless isn't actually that much of a difference for pv

what build were you running

[opaque citrus]

i was mainly using strength and longnail (with other stuff)

so the fight was a little harder because of no longnail

and took way longer

[delicate coral]

yeah thats probably the main reason

[eternal warren]

If you're used to ||quick focus|| charmless will always feel worse

[opaque citrus]

i never used quick focus in my life i think

[eternal warren]

Source: suffering

[delicate coral]

you only use qfocus if you're getting hit

a lot

or if healing windows are very limited

[eternal warren]

I never said I was good at this game

[delicate coral]

besides charmless will always feel worse

[opaque citrus]

welp one day of practice on this isnt as bad as 5 months practicing pv just to beat it on attuned

[delicate coral]

rip

[gilded eagle]

hey guys I dont know if I should keep bashing my head againt the 3rd level of the colosseum or try to get items and stuff

[delicate coral]

show inventory

[dusky bloom]

WHAT

[delicate coral]

5 months is absolutely mad

[opaque citrus]

yes i took that long

[gilded eagle]

dont have permission

[dusky bloom]

5 months on attuned???????

[eternal warren]

I suddenly feel like a hk god

[gilded eagle]

I have 8 masks, second to last upgrade for nail and I just found the shade cloak

I have most talismans as well

[dusky bloom]

Ykw that's fine as long as you beat it you're as good as the others who beat it

[worthy peak]

you should be fine then.

[opaque citrus]

did you ever get to thk on your first playthrough like this
-# yes i WILL keep using my screenshot

[delicate coral]

i mean if you feel like you can't or don't want to do it rn then you can always come back later

[eternal warren]

Do you have spell upgrades?

[delicate coral]

were you speedrunning or something like what

[gilded eagle]

Nah that’s what I got after looking around

[opaque citrus]

the quality gets progressively worse😭

[gilded eagle]

Yeh jus did the abyss

[opaque citrus]

First playthrough

its like my first photo ever

that i posted in this server

[eternal warren]

No, I did everything I could before going to him, I was at 107%

[dusky bloom]

I still fucking hate myself for looking at tutorials to get every traversal ability in hk the first time I played😭

[delicate coral]

i know but i feel like my first playthrough was way longer than loads of other people

[opaque citrus]

how much did it take?

my first ending took like 28 hours

[delicate coral]

well for base ending like 55 hours

[gilded eagle]

I can’t say how long I’ll take on my 1st but cause I played silksong first

[dusky bloom]

Aww that's sad

[gilded eagle]

Yeah lol I played out of order

[dusky bloom]

Silksongs character control feels so much worse for me

Idk why but it just feels weird

[gilded eagle]

I like it more

I miss claw line the most

[dusky bloom]

Maybe it's the gravity because I'm so used to regular hk

[gilded eagle]

What’s the avg length of a play through for 100%?

[opaque citrus]

probably like 40 hours

maybe 30

[dusky bloom]

If you're like me, then probably like 70-80 hours

[opaque citrus]

i should do r5ab and then maybe i will be ready to get to city of tears in steel soul

[worthy peak]

no thats for false knight.

[dusky bloom]

And then die to watcher knights

[worthy peak]

then r045 for moss knights

[opaque citrus]

okay anyrad it is

[worthy peak]

we discussed this

[dry creek]

got to end of p5. died

[dusky bloom]

Better yet, anyrad 3.0

[wispy willow]

i play on 30 - 50ms in LAS

[dry creek]

but at least i got to the end

[dusky bloom]

Me too yesterday

[opaque citrus]

80ms is like nothing?

[dusky bloom]

Absrad is harder than all of the other bosses combined don't worry you'll get that moth

[silk beacon]

Now do rad absrad

[dusky bloom]

Radiant Gruz Mother harder than radiant pure vessel confirmed

[dry creek]

already working on oy

[dusky bloom]

Cause I've done RPV twice but RGM zero times

[wispy willow]

radiant gruz mother?

[dusky bloom]

Yes

[wispy willow]

damn

[dusky bloom]

What about the void spells? By far the best one is d dark

[worthy peak]

By what metric?

[dusky bloom]

Usefulness

[worthy peak]

What part of usefulness

[dusky bloom]

The i frames are way more useful than the 120 abyss shriek damage MOST OF THE TIME

[worthy peak]

Like thats very vague

[digital grove]

@empty lynx when vc in other server smh

[molten forge]

Depends what you define as best, ddark is the best defensive spell while abyss/shade soul are best for damage

it still does respectable damage though dont get me wrong

[worthy peak]

but... what about shade soul. Maybe i find the range and ability to take out many enemies in a line better

[dusky bloom]

Doesn't d Dark do twice as much damage as shade soul (not counting double hits)?

[worthy peak]

ddark does more damage than shade soul usually btw

[worthy peak]

about that yes

[molten forge]

shade soul you can get multihits though, let me check numbers real quick

[empty lynx]

When y'all are done with your sesh's

[worthy peak]

Yeah.. still won't out do ddark

With the quadruple hits though

[digital grove]

but steve is streaming sludge in fl studio 😔

[quartz cave]

thats 0.08 seconds of latency

[dusky bloom]

TAS only??

[digital grove]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

it is significant

[worthy peak]

I dont think so.

[quartz cave]

@digital grove

[worthy peak]

Triple hits re much easier

double hits easier still

[molten forge]

ddark is equivilant to double hit shade soul if you hit all hitboxes on ddark

[digital grove]

hru

[worthy peak]

it also has a 65 damage hitbox

[mystic jetty]

Guys what's the best charm build for nightmare king grimm?

[quartz cave]

im doing good im eating breakfast

[worthy peak]

if its on the left

[molten forge]

ik its close enough though that 5 isnt going to make or break the spell

[digital grove]

breakfast at 8 pm

[dusky bloom]

Idk maybe on some bosses like watcher knight but definitely not the majority of them

[quartz cave]

wbu

[digital grove]

i guess man

[molten forge]

shade soul also has a faster casting time/animation as well

[worthy peak]

i was comparing to quadruple hits

[digital grove]

watching my friend concoct slop in fl studio and also working on my own stuff

[worthy peak]

It does matter though.

[dusky bloom]

Shade soul is probably the best spell for pantheon uumuu

[worthy peak]

litterally lost me a fight against winged nosk

[molten forge]

for the most part when discussing general usage of spells though it doesnt, thats why i was simplifying it

i get your point though

[quartz cave]

peak,,,,

[dusky bloom]

Winged nosk is so annoying but if you get the fight down, it's basically just a free healing break

[worthy peak]

I think 8% will always be able to be significant

[worthy peak]

Thats great until its radiant ab

[dusky bloom]

Out of my skill range😭

Soul master/tyrant is kinda free

[molten forge]

winged nosk is just kinda a boring fight, I do love the fact that you can prevent one of the minions (balloons) from spawning by standing in a certain spot (once you move away it will spawn) kinda funny

[unreal stone]

Didn't play pantheons but i would say the most boring boss is sheo and his brother

[empty lynx]

Lowk if i ever join a voice chat there i'd probably just sit in silence lmfao

[digital grove]

i agree ive never played a pantheon and the most boring boss is absolute radiance

[velvet lichen]

Can’t really call it boring if you’ve haven’t fought it, eh?

[worthy peak]

what does FWSSH mean?

[digital grove]

[velvet lichen]

Also it’s Oro and Mato lol, Sheo’s a different fight

[digital grove]

hopppp

[unreal stone]

Did fought it

[worthy peak]

The most boring fight is obvious THK

[velvet lichen]

It’s a challenge I’ve been doing for Silksong

[unreal stone]

Forgot much about the game since last time played it was 2023

[worthy peak]

oh. tell me what in sk-discussion

[unreal stone]

I did first 3 pantheons and stopped

[velvet lichen]

Ah, so just haven’t done the later ones? Most boring fight in the game’s in the fifth, I can say that much

[empty lynx]

But i have a homeschool arabic class which i haven't done the homework of :<

[digital grove]

most boring fight is all of them because they arent parrygem imo

[digital grove]

lock in twin

[empty lynx]

I will or else my dad will be disappointed and call me stoopid

[unreal stone]

Arabic has to be top 5 hardest subj in school

Bec i study it too

[unreal stone]

Top 3 tbh

[empty lynx]

Idc if your school is faiel marfoo and i have to take it back home and carry it up or whatever like come on 😭

[frozen storm]

Hello

[frozen storm]

Pure masochism

[worthy peak]

hello

[frozen storm]

How r u doing

[worthy peak]

good. what about you?

[frozen storm]

@quartz cave

[frozen storm]

Same as earlier today

[quartz cave]

@frozen storm

[frozen storm]

But better

[quartz cave]

whats top 1 and 2

[unreal stone]

2 biology 1 physics

[naive dew]

true

[quartz cave]

biology 💔

[naive dew]

(no)

[quartz cave]

biology is top 5 freest ngl

[unreal stone]

Not really when u dont study it properly or not day by day
Also you need to repeat a lot or write too much or draw so you can understand it

[frozen storm]

I'd say it's probably sociology + oratory and leadership

[unreal stone]

But its fun

[quartz cave]

my top 3 are french physics math

[warm aurora]

I feel it works better but still no luck
Pv is no issue tho

[quartz cave]

[frozen storm]

Math?

[unreal stone]

never heard of em tbh

[frozen storm]

Sociology is cool but difficult

I can't remember the names man

[quartz cave]

why is math being questioned it IS a difficult subject

[frozen storm]

It's free

[naive dew]

math is like objectively hard

[unreal stone]

I agree with math and physics but lets be honest math is easier than physics

Physics just eats your brain💔

[frozen storm]

Portuguese is top 1

Arts is top 2

[unreal stone]

Imagine that top 1 student in my class got 63/100
had all our class in shock

[unreal stone]

In physics

[frozen storm]

And the 2 I mentioned previously are 3 and 4

[unreal stone]

Tbh every subject is good until you have a good teacher that makes you feel its easy

Not physics ofc💔

[zinc iris]

I can see tmrw if u want

[warm aurora]

I dont really know what you could do atp
Besides reviewing footage maybe

I am just annoyed it still isnt working

[frozen storm]

History is very subjective because it varies depending where you live

[warm aurora]

Not just today
Just how long it has been taking

[zinc iris]

Ye mostly need to see ur healing and stuff

What ru using btw

[warm aurora]

In irl days, its almost surpassing my silksong playthrough

[warm aurora]

Currently strength qf df and grubsong

The heal build

Also, I havent used vc, if its possible to stream via xbox without mic, I might need to see if I can make that work

[zinc iris]

Yeah prob just need to see the healing windows ur doing
Don't rlly need mic just type is fine

[unreal stone]

History is easier than geography

[warm aurora]

Thinking about this, not happening anytime soon due to (old) restrictions that I would need to figure out to turn off

[frozen storm]

Never

[warm aurora]

I meant it for the footage

[unreal stone]

No bec history is literally wars
Years and much stuff that you can actually find easy unlike geography

Its annoying

[frozen storm]

What is annoying

[warm aurora]

And I want to interrupt by saying p5 is really fun
Its just absrad

[frozen storm]

Btw geography is the art of war pretty literally

[zinc iris]

It do be like that

[frozen storm]

I mean

[unreal stone]

Like
Population census Number of crops produced by the regions

[frozen storm]

History and geography are the same thing

Basically speaking

[zinc iris]

Mine took me a long while as well

[frozen storm]

A lot of it merges

[frozen storm]

How is that difficult?

Maybe different skills but I am unable to imagine demography being hard

[zinc iris]

U can also cheat if u only want the achievement

[warm aurora]

I know I shouldnt be comparing, and I understand why, I have always been slower as average, but it has been 2 months

[warm aurora]

No thats patched

I dont want to consider it

[dusky coral]

History is far easier than geography

[unreal stone]

Difficult because
You must memorize the characteristics of the mountains, their height, and directions.directions are the most annoying،

[zinc iris]

What I did was practice an hr a day for two three days

[unreal stone]

Its opinions after all

[frozen storm]

How are directions annoying

[zinc iris]

Prob I can only give good advice now after seeing the gameplay

[frozen storm]

This is definitely not it

[warm aurora]

I have gone so far past that in both aspects

[warm aurora]

Lemme record a run

[frozen storm]

Opinions are conflicting way too much

[zinc iris]

And there's ofc much better players who can give it

[keen thorn]

Hardest class is the most subjective question I've seen in my life

Not only does it depend on your skills

It totally depends on your teacher and curriculum

[zinc iris]

Case in point Genio

[keen thorn]

For me geography was an absolute joke because there was like, nothing to memorize

[frozen storm]

It depends on more stuff too

[zinc iris]

History was easier for me too

[keen thorn]

Also oratory is very easy because the teacher is the goat

[frozen storm]

Depends on your culture

[zinc iris]

Than geography

[frozen storm]

My teacher is also the goat but I don't fw oratory

[keen thorn]

But man was Chem last semester hard because the teacher sucked

[zinc iris]

Hardest was geometry and trig

[frozen storm]

Autocorrect?

Tô
Gênio

[keen thorn]

typoed lol

tô

[frozen storm]

Tô indeed

[dusky bloom]

Which board?

CAIE?

[frozen storm]

Eu tô feliz demaaaaiiis

[frozen storm]

Depends on your parents, depends on your social group, depends on a lot of stuff

[wispy willow]

depends

the most failed class last year was lowk free

cause the teacher actually teaches

[keen thorn]

A felicidade é ilegal

[wispy willow]

the thing is my classmates think a good teacher is one that gives out free grades

[frozen storm]

NAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO

[wispy willow]

and they dont study

[frozen storm]

[wispy willow]

true

[frozen storm]

[frozen storm]

SO RELATABLE HOLY

A good teacher is a teacher who is good at teaching (duh) but also a good person overall

[subtle glacier]

depends on what you’re learning

[naive dew]

i woulkd have to say chem is probably my biggest struggle i wont lie

[wispy willow]

yeah

imagine studying chem

[frozen storm]

Imagine being able to study chemistry

[wispy willow]

i think lowk my chem teacher died she dissapeard mid year and then i never saw her again

[frozen storm]

My chemistry teacher is so horrible at teaching

[wispy willow]

she was the worst teacher i had probably

[wispy willow]

same

[frozen storm]

He literally asked me why CO2 = 44mol I think it was mol not sure

[umbral night]

12+2*16

[wispy willow]

im lowk cooked in chem thank god i dont see it in uni

[umbral night]

I died but it ok
Enough for today
I'll beat him in a year

[wispy willow]

physics is already cooking me

[naive dew]

ok but ujnlike chem physics is a good subject

[frozen storm]

That's what I was explaining for 10 minutes

[wispy willow]

the level of science in my school was like bottom standard

[frozen storm]

Teaching quality or curriculum?

[wispy willow]

both

i directly didnt see orgaincs at all

[zinc iris]

Personally I feel u shd tone down the agression

[copper glacier]

hey chem is fun

[wispy willow]

and barley touch salts and oxides

[frozen storm]

Our curriculum is ass, let me just search up rq something that will make anyone cringe

[zinc iris]

Also when the fireballs come u don't need to run all the way to the other side

Stick to one and do the jumps there

[umbral night]

Oh

Thanks for the advice

[wispy willow]

lowk you have better mechanics than me, an i beat nkg radiant so i think you got it

[zinc iris]

And for the spikes just move one step only

[copper glacier]

collector p5 nail binding is so ASS

[wispy willow]

true

[umbral night]

Thanks

[umbral night]

Ty

[wispy willow]

i think collector is probably the hardest boss rab -> i mean i guess absrad

[tropic nest]

fury imo

[wispy willow]

lemon :blep:

[zinc iris]

Otherwise technique is pretty solid just tone down the agression
No rush
This is a super cliche thing to say treat it like a slow dance

[agile pewter]

Nkg is one of the bosses you can beat, mainly by just... accidentally seeing how other people dodge the attacks, and absorb that

Btw you had 0 reason to hit the floor spikes lmao

[frozen storm]

@keen thorn look at ts

[umbral night]

I did not think it'd knock me into another

[frozen storm]

This is basically an indirect way of saying: "ai gen art is art"

[wispy willow]

thats good no?

[zinc iris]

For the fires from the floor just keep walking to the side and at the last one jump and dash back through.

[copper glacier]

Dance with me my friend, show them you are worthy of a starring role!

[agile pewter]

Ah yes

Its defo Brazilian

[frozen storm]

Depends on how you interpret it

[wispy willow]

ok im stupid

[frozen storm]

It's part of the state curriculum
Which is sadly forced

I hate Sao Paulo

Get me out of here

[copper glacier]

i dont get a WORD this says but it must be ass

[frozen storm]

Could be Portuguese if you ignore bottom right

[umbral night]

I tried livesplit
Got insane frame drops
Stopped
I ain't speedrunning any time soon lol, cuz I'm not rich enough for a new pc

[frozen storm]

Huh wtf

I just found a grape in my pocket

[wispy willow]

X Someone confirms that the conscience, emotion and intention of expressing something, AI can not be creater of art.

[umbral night]

Eat

[frozen storm]

I did

[copper glacier]

how tf was there... nevermind eat it

[agile pewter]

Spawn more grapes in your pockets by watching another leon vid

[keen thorn]

Lollll
What subject is it

[agile pewter]

[wispy willow]

that shouldnt happen?

[frozen storm]

Arts and digital medias

[copper glacier]

[obtuse brook]

🐱

[frozen storm]

This

[umbral night]

I don't know
I got i3, 10 yrs old laptop
Not very tech savvy

[upper remnant]

what the

[wispy willow]

oh

[copper glacier]

wha? hornet? wtf happened to you?

[frozen storm]

That's bad RAM

Insufficient RAM

[keen thorn]

"Orientation subjects" 💀

[wispy willow]

i3 what number?

[umbral night]

8gB i think

[obtuse brook]

I'm not the Best artist

[keen thorn]

Oh materials mb

Still 💀

[frozen storm]

Materials though

[frozen storm]

Gen 1

[umbral night]

Don't know

[frozen storm]

Imagine

[keen thorn]

Yeh I read materias

[wispy willow]

Ur studying art?

[copper glacier]

nah bro put that in the louvre rn

[frozen storm]

I'm forced to

I hate art

[wispy willow]

I have a thinkpad with a gen 2 i5

[wispy willow]

sadge

[frozen storm]

The only good thing about art is music theory

[wispy willow]

why and why?

[frozen storm]

And guess what

It isn't in our curriculum

[wispy willow]

like why are you forced and why do you hate art

[copper glacier]

photography is more my thing tbh i never got art

[frozen storm]

I'm forced cuz my state is shit, and I hate it because I hate it

I hate visual arts

And I hate making them

[umbral night]

Football is there in Brazil
If football there, all good

[wispy willow]

do your parents force u to study?

[copper glacier]

photo is great bc you use stuff that already exsits :)

[frozen storm]

And visual arts is basically the entire curriculum

[frozen storm]

I don't think you get it

[wispy willow]

i dont

[frozen storm]

Maybe different educational systems

[zinc iris]

Last time brazil had good national team was 10 yrs ago

[frozen storm]

I wasn't even born when Brazil was good

[agile pewter]

Pencils and paper exist, last i checked

[copper glacier]

its fake news

FAKE NEWS

[zinc iris]

Missed the legendary 7-1

[frozen storm]

My first time witnessing a Brazil national team game was the 7x1

[wispy willow]

you have free uni right? I know its p2w but still

[frozen storm]

I didn't

[frozen storm]

Not enough age to be in uni

[umbral night]

Brazilian players are always insane when they start out

[frozen storm]

Also free colleges/universities are better than paid ones

[wispy willow]

oh u're in highschool?

[frozen storm]

Sadly

[zinc iris]

Then they become indisciplined and party too hard

[umbral night]

Absolute truth

[copper glacier]

i lowk dunno if i want to go to uni its too expensive

[frozen storm]

Average Brazilian mindset

[wispy willow]

but why then are you studying visual arts the whole year??

[frozen storm]

Because the educational system is shit

And my parents can't afford private school

[wispy willow]

tecnicatura?

[frozen storm]

Que?

[gilded locust]

Hello fellow chat members

[wispy willow]

Escola Técnica

[umbral night]

Thinking about expense comes later
Decision about what you want to do should come first
But I can't say much when I'm the only earning member in my family so i was forced to work

[wispy willow]

in visual arts

[frozen storm]

No

[umbral night]

Hi

[frozen storm]

That's on the basic curriculum

[copper glacier]

sandborn or whatever that fan game is called better than zoteboat

[frozen storm]

And this curriculum is forced for everyone

[gilded locust]

Do we know how to beat pure vessel?

[umbral night]

I don't

[wispy willow]

and why is visual arts the main thing in the curriculum dont you have more subjects?

[gilded locust]

Ok

[frozen storm]

It isn't, the main part of the art part of the curriculum is visual arts

[zinc iris]

Very vague question be more specific

[frozen storm]

I'm sorry for not explaining it well

[wispy willow]

ohhhhhhhhhh thats standard no?

[copper glacier]

damn dawg hearing yall's stories makes me look hella spoiled

[zinc iris]

Like which attack and stuff u struggle with

[gilded locust]

All

[frozen storm]

I think it is?

[agile pewter]

If you say all we wont help- you said all

[placid bolt]

Quick slash, UnStrength, Shaman Stone, Soul Catcher, Spell Twister.

[tropic nest]

this is oc

[frozen storm]

No steady body

[gilded locust]

Ok

[frozen storm]

Remove every charm and add steady body

[placid bolt]

How the FUCK would steady body even help

[gilded locust]

Imma try beating him on hall of gods some times

[frozen storm]

11 times

[gilded locust]

And then i retry p4

[frozen storm]

@wind garnet

[agile pewter]

Much more than youd think.

[wispy willow]

yeah, idk bro just cheat through all your exams high school aint worth the hassle

[gilded locust]

I mean compass is carrying me

[frozen storm]

I'll do it legit because it's fun ngl

[zinc iris]

Why risk getting caught

[gilded locust]

But its has to go it's too strong

[umbral night]

He's smart
We played chess

[empty lynx]

free 4-5 hits on a certain attack

[wispy willow]

eee dont get caught?

[umbral night]

Probably same in academics

[agile pewter]

Also i'd stick to one or the other

If im using unbreak strength, i wont use shaman stone, and vice versa