hk-discussion

[honest shale]

ik im just being a dick

[frozen storm]

Horse

[fiery trench]

also I swear it wasnt lagging before I opened obs

[honest shale]

that video is so laggy im not watching that

[spice merlin]

Lol I thought the same thing

[fiery trench]

skip to the 1 min mark
its less laggy there
and actually shows thorns being broken

[frozen storm]

So weird

[honest shale]

nah im good

[frozen storm]

Anyways im going to sleep

[fiery trench]

night

[kind rune]

Lies and deciet

[honest shale]

gn

[kind rune]

Gn

[earnest apex]

g'nite

[spice merlin]

Gn

[frozen storm]

Now my hip isn't hurting

[inner herald]

anyone got any tips for the nail master brothers at the end of p1

[little mortar]

Where the hell do I get wall cling?

[frozen storm]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-afternoon-good-evening-good-night-hello-gif-22572201

[inner herald]

mantis village

[kind rune]

Mantis village

[frozen storm]

Doesn't fit here but I love this movie so fuck it gn

[kind rune]

Im 🐌

[earnest apex]

snail

[spice merlin]

If you get stuck between them, d dark and shade dash through them

[honest shale]

#hk-help

[fiery trench]

I got 15 geo for soul tyrant
not worth it

Hopefully Champion is better

[kind rune]

Its build up to the very rewarding 3k geo fountain trust

[little mortar]

I'm in a mushroom place...

[kind rune]

Gotta keep going down

[little mortar]

And someone selling fragile charms.

[honest shale]

thats where the mantis village is found

[spice merlin]

Mantis village is at the lower part of fungal wastes

[kind rune]

Oh waaaaaay down

[spice merlin]

It is a sub-area

[fiery trench]

that reminds me
I need to get my shade from the joni dark room

[honest shale]

go down and right

[little mortar]

I saw hornet there...

[kind rune]

Oh god no lantern yet?

[fiery trench]

also Champion was also 15 geo

[inner herald]

my first run through, i spent like 3 days on hornet 2

[honest shale]

go left now

[inner herald]

go left from her

[lone snow]

then go fown and left

[fiery trench]

no
I had to do dark deepnest :(

[kind rune]

😭

[fiery trench]

mind u, that was also worthless

[spice merlin]

RIP

[honest shale]

do a no logic rando

[kind rune]

Did u randomize geo rocks, cuz depenest is a goldmine if so

[fiery trench]

let me finish my gun one first

[kind rune]

Unlucky man

[fiery trench]

fountain is a grub

[spice merlin]

Well you have to get it now

[fiery trench]

I’ll get it on the return trip from LK

watch LK also be 15 geo

[spice merlin]

100%

[vagrant grail]

What’s a good charm build for watcher knights. I got 9 charm notches atm

[spice merlin]

Depends on your playstyle

[kind rune]

Cant go wrong w qslash strength and shamans

[fiery trench]

I'm so, so disapointed in u

[spice merlin]

XDDD

[lone snow]

you think that's bad?

ive seen way, way worse

[vagrant grail]

Would quick slash, mark of pride and quick focus be good?

[lone snow]

yes

do you have all charms

[fiery trench]

I’ve spent this entire time looking for lantern
thats all I’m asking for

[lone snow]

also if youre not doing a rando then go to #hk-help

[vagrant grail]

Ah oki

[honest shale]

herrah locked behind spore shroom and spore shroom in black egg

[kind rune]

Does ur map show all the checks you havent found yet

[fiery trench]

no

[spice merlin]

Dang

[kind rune]

Diabolical

[lone snow]

you should play with dupes

makes life possible

anyway my lantern was at Seal of Binding once

[honest shale]

or just monomon in black egg

[fiery trench]

ur free
now never do ts again

[lone snow]

hey

you shall not disrespect Smeagol

[fiery trench]

nvm
it was a mimic

[lone snow]

he is a very nice grub

oh

[kind rune]

Hey arent there four grubs in that deepnest room?

[spice merlin]

hahaha

[fiery trench]

spent 3k on a mimic

[kind rune]

In the pfp

[lone snow]

no that's a different room

[foggy sable]

worth

[spice merlin]

Mimics are German confirmed

[lone snow]

nein

[spice merlin]

Da

[fiery trench]

hm
should I do Basin dream tree for a grub

[lone snow]

yes

[spice merlin]

Yes

[lone snow]

please

my bro blimpy

[spice merlin]

Watch it be another mimic

[fiery trench]

ARE. YOU. DEAD. ASS.

[spice merlin]

HAHAAH

[lone snow]

mimawau mimawau

[spice merlin]

Watch out comrade, the Germans are everywhere

[fiery trench]

I just want to be able to see in the dark
ia that too much to ask for

[spice merlin]

Yes

[fiery trench]

I’m taking my frustration out on WD

[spice merlin]

Who?

[fiery trench]

White Defender

[lone snow]

white defende

[fiery trench]

and I got 100 esscence

[spice merlin]

Oh. I’m lowk stupid

[fiery trench]

alr Isma
if ur grove dont got shit
I’m shooting ur corpse

[kind rune]

Ts just a worse reward

[fresh isle]

has anyone ever heard of this mod

what does it do

[fiery trench]

Imsa just got saved by the literal last check possible

[lone snow]

lemme find out

gimme a min

[fiery trench]

no idea

[dark steppe]

@zealous skiff ITS FUCKING OVER I DID IT

[zealous skiff]

GGGGGGG

[dark steppe]

91909 attempts

[fiery trench]

Collector Map
Grub Mimic
15 geo
Soul Totem
Lifeblood
and then the other half of Kingsoul

[patent rain]

Clubstep was my hardest

Like 3k+ att

[naive dew]

GGG

[zealous skiff]

Fucking nuts

[fresh isle]

gg

[kind rune]

Gg

[zealous skiff]

Its over

[fiery trench]

alr time to gain swim

[lone snow]

alr i checked

[wispy sky]

holy shit

[lone snow]

its like a legitamacy thing

[wispy sky]

why so bright tho

90k is crazy too

[patent rain]

Mods

Their ui is custom so the brightness is prolly adjustable too

[wispy sky]

i took 11k on bloodbath and that already took ages

[patent rain]

Max attempts ive had is within the 3K range on both hexagon force and clubstep (idk why they have similar attempts either man)

[fiery trench]

alr I can finally swim

[wispy sky]

we love ismas tear

[lone snow]

legitimacy thing that monitors stuff when you enter a pantheon to prove that you're not cheating in something like r5ab

tested it and read the readme

[fresh isle]

ok but how does it monitor it

[fiery trench]

no I had isma’s
I had to do Colo2 for swim

[wispy sky]

huh

[lone snow]

probably boolean idk

[patent rain]

Swimming through grass

The ability to modify the grasse properties to liquid

[lone snow]

yes i know you probably already read that

[fiery trench]

Unn gave me 65 geo

[patent rain]

Its a sacred techique passed on through lineage born once in every 400 year's

[wispy sky]

that exists?

[patent rain]

I was suprised too man

[fresh isle]

mm

i havent really heard of anyone cheating except for cotton and people who just blatantly lie without any faked recordings of anything

[foggy sable]

tbf it would be really easy to fake runs

like, trivially easy

[patent rain]

Is hk general like a general 2 channel for hollow knight bc isnt it the same channel

[nova quest]

whats the world record time

[fresh isle]

it would yea theres a white/black screen between every transition

[lone snow]

30:49 by Zvypurr

iirc

[wispy sky]

for what

[fresh isle]

my goat <3

[naive dew]

hiii eloki and gr

[nova quest]

you guys arent gonna believe this

[fiery trench]

no idea
I just dont touch either

[zealous skiff]

I cheated ✅

[fresh isle]

i heard something about likeee theres a mask shine animation that happens every x amount of seconds that you can use to verify runs but like i dont know if htats true

[foggy sable]

I've always wanted to fake something like r5 just to see how hard it would be but like

[fresh isle]

hi

[naive dew]

i forgive you

[young gate]

just beat trial of the fool

[zealous skiff]

My goat

[foggy sable]

hiiiiii

[lone snow]

i think it does this to prevent splicing, absolutely no clue what the numbers above it mean ( i am using all the debugcheats while i took the screenshot to test it)

[patent rain]

Read the channel ur in man

[naive dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393972056374251663/1490089457011916954/Untitled.gif

[nova quest]

to fake r5 dont u need to be practically good enough to do it

[lone snow]

yes

[foggy sable]

not really

[lone snow]

ish

[foggy sable]

you could splice a run easily enough

[zealous skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393972056374251663/1490089457011916954/Untitled.gif

[young gate]

now i only have like
p4 left to do

[lone snow]

you need to have skill just not the neccesary skill

[nova quest]

or i guess u could do some high level shit like scripting fights but idk if thats possible

[lone snow]

splicing and or invincibility

[fresh isle]

ah

[fresh isle]

you could just splice the individual fights together

[nova quest]

invincibility is what i refer to when i say u would basically just need to be able to do it

[naive dew]

no, but people who do ARE good enough most of the time

[foggy sable]

you would still need to be decent but nowhere near able to do r5

[fresh isle]

i havent heard of anyone splicing anything besides like the one famous example of cotton

though

[honest shale]

didnt we already have this conversation like a month ago

[naive dew]

cheaters are usually good enough to do what they are cheating

[nova quest]

to be fair hk seems like a game where itd be really easy to get away with cheating

[fiery trench]

#hk-discussion
which is not #hk-general
not sure where I got either from

[foggy sable]

I would bet a decent percentage of r5 runs are spliced

[fresh isle]

yeah i think skill level doesn't really change someone's likeliness to cheat

[nova quest]

wouldnt be surprised if many have

[foggy sable]

or otherwise cheated

[fresh isle]

i doubt it

[naive dew]

it doesnt but i do feel a lot more that get noticed are people who are capable of doing the thing

[wispy sky]

whats the wr for p5

[naive dew]

like spaceuk with slaughterhouse is probably the famous example

hes like actively good enough at the game

[fiery trench]

Sheo
I hope u still know how to dodge
cuz I got several bullets headed in ur direction

[lone snow]

b-17 survivorship bias lesson incoming

[fresh isle]

.

[zealous skiff]

I mean tbf how are supposed to estimate thr amount of cheaters in hk without having any form of cheat detection

[vale condor]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-animals-goat-cow-friends-gif-15707324

[fresh isle]

ok but people that are comfortable cheating usually just keep on cheating until they do something incredibly stupid and get found out

[wispy sky]

according to p2 he does indeed know

[zealous skiff]

🐏

[keen thorn]

Splicing pantheons is ridiculously easy

[fiery trench]

good
I emptied half a lmg clip at him

[honest shale]

have you ever heard of cotton?

[vale condor]

🐑

[fresh isle]

its pretty rare where someone just cheats like
one thing tbh

[zealous skiff]

🐑

[naive dew]

🐑

[keen thorn]

And I don't even know if it's detectable if done well

[vernal knot]

Hello everyone

[naive dew]

@keen thorn

[wispy sky]

sheo is best nailmaster

[fiery trench]

hello
I am suffering

[fresh isle]

@vale condor is this a thing

[vernal knot]

What's happening to you Duoloo

[honest shale]

smth with the audio cutting out for like a frame

[vernal knot]

Yeah he's the best out of the three

[nova quest]

in totally unrelated news i think tmrw is finally the day ill conquer r5....

[vernal knot]

I'd bet he could beat both in a fight

[honest shale]

but no one in this community is gonna put the time in to check

[keen thorn]

Yeah, but actually if the load takes long enough, the audio fades out completely

[fiery trench]

I want Lantern
nothing has lantern
I’m about to explore Darknest again just to try and find it

[lone snow]

challenge accepted

[vernal knot]

Good luck

[honest shale]

please do

[lone snow]

whats the challenge though @honest shale *

im just very stubborn

[fiery trench]

rando with a gun

oh
nvm then carry on

[honest shale]

find the r5 cheaters

[wispy sky]

whats the wr for p5

[honest shale]

like 20 smth minutes

[nova quest]

someone should make a fake r5 run to see if anyone is able to notice

[wispy sky]

damn

[honest shale]

rad pv no nail time

[fresh isle]

https://youtu.be/4VA_jz5-AV4?si=OCyNUqiTKhBR00y0 i stitched together this video inbetween transitions and was laughing to myself about how clean it was lmao

[wispy sky]

i watched a tas that was like 16 mins

[lone snow]

way lower than that

like 15

[keen thorn]

Fun fact: this video has a splice
If you want a challenge find where and why I did it
https://youtu.be/c5gBskdRv_I?si=okrcWEn8R3SR2kpD

[fiery trench]

I would, but thatd require some level of skill to make it not heavily apparent
skill I do not possess

[foggy sable]

not really

there are a lot of odd strats people can use in r5

if you can do it in under 10 hits you could make a convincing edit imo

[honest shale]

otherwise its p5 is hard one day and the next is r5 completed

[fresh isle]

there are just bad strats that people use and force until it works lol

my first r5 was really scuffed

[fiery trench]

ur saying this to someone who died to Mawlek and Gruzz Mother despite constantly doing those 2 fights

[naive dew]

my first r5 will be 2 pixels from being hit on every attack i think'

[foggy sable]

I think I had wk parries in my first r5

[fiery trench]

I got egg for dark No Eyes fragment

not even the good eggs
just a rancid one

[small void]

Her moveset is so cool

[naive dew]

depends what kind it might not be bad

if ur like pogo parrying its just chil

[foggy sable]

as in overlapping hitboxes would be dead otherwise

[fresh isle]

like i think theres unlikely to be more than 5 cheated r5s because

1. r5 doesnt get much attention anymore
2. people who cheat successfully have a tendency to just keep on cheating until they fuck up somehow

i would be shocked if there was mopre than 5

[fiery trench]

yknow, maybe going to Canyon with this set equiped was a bad idea

[foggy sable]

I'd guess much higher just because of ease of doing

[fresh isle]

like in all my time in the hk community ive only heard of ONE edited cheated recording

[reef iris]

Hi guys

[fresh isle]

(cotton)

[nova quest]

that could just speak to how easy it is to get away with though

[foggy sable]

I know of other faked r5 runs

[patent rain]

Minions and thorns of agony 😔

[torn bramble]

Glowing Womb is pretty bad. In Fog Canyon its even worse.

[fresh isle]

really?

[honest shale]

rad nailess pv is just gonna drain me mentally ima stop doing it

[foggy sable]

alright so long story

[fiery trench]

noo
u dont say

[torn bramble]

Lol

[honest shale]

nvm i forgot abt sshadow

[wispy sky]

just unequip it atp

[fresh isle]

glowing womb is actually optimal to beat the game :clueless

[torn bramble]

Umm...

[foggy sable]

th had at one point a rule where runs had to be livestreamed I believe, and there is at least one case that I know of where someone edited a run and tried to play it back on stream and had messed it up by pausing it

[fresh isle]

im not even lying

[naive dew]

Aaa

[torn bramble]

Man, that would be so embarrassing

[fresh isle]

do we know where it was paused

i mean

spliced*

[foggy sable]

tbh I could just go ask those verifiers but I'm not inclined to since I only heard about it one time

[fiery trench]

alr Uumuu time

[fresh isle]

im ngl the livestreaming rule was pretty dumb

[torn bramble]

Explain how Weaversong is useful for Uumuu

[fiery trench]

free charm

[nova quest]

explain how any of this is

[little mortar]

I think I'm stuck in the city of tears...

[nova quest]

is that really ur biggest concern

[fresh isle]

a lot of people are just more comfortable playing off stream and/or have bad / nonexistent internet

[honest shale]

all it would do is discourage legitimate runners

[patent rain]

How

[little mortar]

I used the simple key on the surface.

[patent rain]

Its overcharmed

??

[fiery trench]

I entered the room with full mask and 4 lifeblood hearts
I havent even entered the Uumuu fight yet

[fresh isle]

read above message

[fiery trench]

randomized charm cost

[wispy sky]

why tf are you overcharming

[fresh isle]

like i get why it would exist

[foggy sable]

that rule is gone now anyway the longest it lasted was in the case of multipart runs where subsequent parts had to be live

[fresh isle]

but

[fiery trench]

funnies

[patent rain]

Its just fog canyon bru

[honest shale]

very poor time to send my message indeed

[torn bramble]

You have to find Soul Master in there anyway, you might as well wait a bit.

[fiery trench]

ok 2 cycled Uumuu
I live
for now

and Monomon is 15 geo

[fresh isle]

was it verified that this was edited because honestly i could totally see someone playing back an unedited clear on stream just to have it verified

[foggy sable]

I don't remember, I'll have to figure out who I found out about it from

it was sometime around the rule change around multipart runs iirc

[harsh mantle]

I'm at the abyss...wish me luck

[fiery trench]

u got that

[wispy sky]

get ready for lore

[lone snow]

didnt find it, even after paying attention to the movement of the leaves in the foreground in .25x speed. Well done. Was it during a ddark or flashbang?

or am i blind

[patent rain]

I wonder how u even splice bc u would need the same exact situation and everything

[vagrant grail]

That fight was pretty rough ngl, took me a good few attempts but I got it with one of 7 masks left

[foggy sable]

easiest way is room transitions

[subtle glacier]

holy we’re talking about cheating

[vagrant grail]

Swapped out quick focus for shaman stone cus I didn’t have any chances to heal anyway

[foggy sable]

yes

[honest shale]

this has to happen at least once a month

[lone snow]

u remember where you can splice (points on the ground or ddarks or transitions), and then you make sure to get to that spot doing that thing in the second run

[hollow nova]

shaman stone reference?

[subtle glacier]

we finished proving a bingy cheater in the last couple days

[patent rain]

Whats that

[foggy sable]

how did you manage that

[subtle glacier]

just route timings

[hollow nova]

How bored do you have to be to cheat at hollow knight bingo

[subtle glacier]

impossibly fast gameplay

consistent wins despite being fucking abhorrent at routing

[foggy sable]

during room and pantheon transitions the screen goes white and/or black, you could cut a recording there

[vale condor]

https://tenor.com/view/wooloo-rolling-gif-2522286101458486073

[fiery trench]

Wooloo

[foggy sable]

you could just do a fully segmented p5 and stitch it together and would look the same as a single segment run

[vagrant grail]

So that is the first of 3 dreamers, what should I go do next

[honest shale]

black egg

[wispy sky]

which one

[honest shale]

lurien

[vagrant grail]

Yurrr

[wispy sky]

go for herrah unless you despise deepnest

[vagrant grail]

I do despise deepnest but ik I’m gonna need to go there

[winter zinc]

Hi

Hello

[honest shale]

leaving monomon for last is diabolical

[torn bramble]

Why

[harsh mantle]

Abyss done

[torn bramble]

Last for me was dlurian though

[wispy sky]

i dont like uumuu

[wispy sky]

same

[torn bramble]

Lurian*

[vagrant grail]

The problem with Herrah is that I’d have to go through deepnest’s painstorm

[wispy sky]

i was having trouble on watcher knighrs so i went for void heart

then when i went to beat thk i realized i forgot lurien

[hallow solar]

Herrah is the easiest dreamer to obtain

Monomon is easy as well

[harsh mantle]

I have Monomon and Lurien left, I don't have void heart so...what should I go do?

[torn bramble]

Deepnest took me 4+ hours to explore fully lol. I'm a completions though, that's probably why I have 112%

[hallow solar]

Lurien is much harder than the others

[wispy sky]

void heart isnt necessary

[vagrant grail]

Lurien wasn’t that bad for me

[wispy sky]

unless youre beating radiancw

[hallow solar]

If you get Lurien you CAN get the others EASILY

[vagrant grail]

It was just a bit of a pain cus of how annoying fighting 5 dudes back after back is

[hallow solar]

Luriens boss guarding it is debatably worse than the final boss

[torn bramble]

Anyone else think Watcher Knights are pretty easy.

[hallow solar]

They aren’t hard with experience

[wispy sky]

hell no

[hallow solar]

But on a first playthrough, absolutely not.

[wispy sky]

nothing is hard with experience

[vagrant grail]

Watcher knight wasn’t that bad, but they are annoying asf and took me a good few attempts

Even with the coiled nail and shade soul

[torn bramble]

They only have 3 attacks which are stupidly simple to dodge

[hallow solar]

Watcher knights has been the hardest boss for me to no hit

[foggy sable]

nor are any of the fights

[wispy sky]

unpredictable tho

[torn bramble]

And they have a tiny amount of health

[vagrant grail]

The attacks themselves aren’t bad, it’s just that you’re fighting 2 at once

[hallow solar]

Watcher knights become very easy if you’re good with spells

[torn bramble]

Like, in P5 I have never come close to dying to them.

They are hard without shade Clark though

Cloak*

[vagrant grail]

Duh, cus by the time you get to P5 you’re cracked at the game

[torn bramble]

Haha

I guess

[wispy sky]

by p5 only hard bosses are markoth and maybe zote and oblobbles

and probably absrad

[vagrant grail]

I might do the pantheons, but then again I enjoy not being in a mental asylum

[wispy sky]

1-4 arent that hard, p5 is genuine torture

[torn bramble]

Something I found interesting was that in most "Hardest Boss in P5" lists. Sly is rated as one of the hardest. I have never had much trouble with him.
Interestingly though, Markoth gives me trouble 😉😜

[wispy sky]

i find sly easy

he has like 4 attacks where you can just dash away

[torn bramble]

Its been 25+ hours and just got to AbsRad yesterday

[torn bramble]

Exactly

[wispy sky]

i wish sheo had a longer fight

hes such a good boss yet so easy

honestly disappointing for the end of p2

even worse he gets the boring part of gods and glory

[torn bramble]

Oh yeah, For some reason I find Zote easy now. He was hard in p3 but now he's a walk in the park after Markoth.

[wispy sky]

same

only reason hes hard is hes after markoth

[torn bramble]

I don't have trouble with lost kin though

Do*

[wispy sky]

why would you

what

why

[torn bramble]

I meant that I do have trouble with him

I really dont know

[wispy sky]

i find uumuu hard

[hallow solar]

Uumuu and hard don’t go together

[wispy sky]

uumuu hard

[hallow solar]

At least overworld

[wispy sky]

oh yeah thats easy

[hallow solar]

Godhome is a little worse

[wispy sky]

godhome is bs

[hallow solar]

There’s a trick to make it easy

Patience

And shade soul

[wispy sky]

theres nothing to hit therefore no soul

[hallow solar]

Dreamnail???

[wispy sky]

ah

[hallow solar]

Don’t even need dreamwielder

Just dreamnail uumuu whenever they summon uomas

[wispy sky]

also is dreamweilder or nmg better

for 05

[hallow solar]

05?

[foggy sable]

05?

[wispy sky]

p5

[hallow solar]

Oh idk lol

[foggy sable]

nmg

[hallow solar]

What’s your build

[wispy sky]

im very nail based

[hallow solar]

You could also take of steady and wielder for a 2 notch

[wispy sky]

nah i like sb

[hallow solar]

Fair me too

If you use NMG, use nail arts

It has to be worth the space it takes up

[wispy sky]

i use nail arts for a few bosses

[hallow solar]

If you use welder, use dreamnail

[wispy sky]

oblobbles and markoth

[hallow solar]

Maybe switch it out at benches

Wielder is underrated af

It’s good on quite a few bosses

[wispy sky]

wielder is only useful on false knight / failed champ and grimm

and uumuu

[hallow solar]

Uumuu, watchers, and mawlek come to mind

[honest shale]

and oro and mato

[wispy sky]

mawlek?????

[hallow solar]

Yea after it does the big spit in the middle

[zealous skiff]

Wrong

Guhhh

[hallow solar]

Wdym wrong

[zealous skiff]

Qs no sbody 🤢

[foggy sable]

qs no sbody is... not ideal

[hallow solar]

Can and should are not the same word

It’s an option

I do it personally for p1-4

I like heart

[wispy sky]

why would you be the unstoppable force and not the immovable object

[hallow solar]

I’m a heart fan

[vagrant grail]

Now that’s 2 of 3 dreamers

[wispy sky]

already?

[hallow solar]

Monomon or herrah

[vagrant grail]

Yup, I already had a bench close to Monomon

I just had to get through Uumuu

[hallow solar]

Bros going from hardest to easiest😭

[zealous skiff]

Ok then why are you suggesting bad ideas for no reason and making it sound like a charm recommendation

[wispy sky]

dont go to the blue lake

[zealous skiff]

Like yeah replacing all your charms with jonis dfocus is an option why gives a shit

[hallow solar]

Because personally I dont recommend sbody over heart

[honest shale]

herrah is not the easiest

[hallow solar]

Legit how

No boss???

[wispy sky]

yall exaggerate deepnest

[honest shale]

6 devouts are harder than uumuu

[vagrant grail]

I’m gonna have to go to Deepnest to get to Herrah and I hate deepnest so I dunno how that’ll be easier than Monomon

[hallow solar]

6 devouts? It’s called shade soul

[vagrant grail]

I just don’t like Deepnest is the thing

[hallow solar]

Or shade cloak

Or DDark

Or hit and run

Or nail arts

[honest shale]

uumuu? It’s called abyys shriek

[hallow solar]

Devouts are easy

Uumuu? It’s called shade soul one cycle

[honest shale]

and uumuu is easier

[wispy sky]

uumuu more like bullshit mechanic

[zealous skiff]

Ok but you said a second ago that “can and should are differnt”implyiing you didnt think taking sbody of was something you should do

[hallow solar]

Monomon is harder because they require the most upgrade

So it’s already locked behind dung defender

And peaks

[vagrant grail]

What does Monomon even require

[hallow solar]

Ismas.

That’s it.

[wispy sky]

crystal dash or ismas

[hallow solar]

How do you get to archives without Ismas

[wispy sky]

shade cloak

[honest shale]

shade cloak can be used or acid skips can be used

[wispy sky]

thats how i did it

[vagrant grail]

If that’s it it really isn’t that bad tbh

I found Dung Defender pretty easy

[hallow solar]

Alright but shade cloak is hard to get

[wispy sky]

cuz i beat poo boy before i even went to peaks

[hallow solar]

You have to fight 2 extra bosses for it

Acid skips are skips

Really Ismas is the requirement

With an alternative if dung defender is THAT bad for you

Which he shouldn’t be. He’s easy.

[vagrant grail]

Dung was the most fun I had in any boss I’ve fought so far

It was legit just chill, I was having a good time

[wispy sky]

i legit beat him and went “oh cool charm” and left the waterways forever

[honest shale]

dung defender isnt even required for ismas

[hallow solar]

Why leave waterways

[wispy sky]

no cdash

[hallow solar]

Yes and dash isn’t required for the whole game

[vagrant grail]

I only went back to Waterways for the Flooknest charm to get an extra charm notch

So I could do the build I wanted for watcher knights

[hallow solar]

And godhome!

[vagrant grail]

Yup, that too!… If I ever feel like slamming my balls in a vice to go through the Pantheons

Though I might just for 112%

[hallow solar]

They aren’t that hard though

[wispy sky]

flower quest

[hallow solar]

1 and 2 at least

Flower quest mild

[vagrant grail]

Okay maybe I won’t get 112%

[hallow solar]

Flower quest is easy?

Only hard part is the start

[wispy sky]

tedious

[hallow solar]

Infected crossroads

[vagrant grail]

This is my first ever playthrough of the game

[hallow solar]

Then it’s smooth sailing until the end

[vagrant grail]

I’m legit dogwater at this still

[kind rune]

If youre m truly struggling you can always kill the enemies on your path beforehand and not bench

[vagrant grail]

There we go, that’s 10 of 11 charm notches now. Thought the area in fog canyon would be harder

[harsh mantle]

So while traveling through fog canyon I ended up in greenpath and fought the giant moss charger

[storm trench]

I was dog water my first playthrough as well, my total playtime first time through was absurd, Hollow Knight was my first metroidvania and I’m a laptop user, you get used to it and especially after completing silksong as well and then going back to hollow knight it becomes a whole lot easier once you’ve developed your skills more and progressively become more familiar and comfortable with the mechanics of the style

[kind rune]

also shade soul and ddark kill bubbles brrrrrrrr

[storm trench]

I’m a bit embarrassed that I struggled with ||monnomon|| or however you spell it on my first playthrough

[honest shale]

uumuu?

[kind rune]

tbf uumuu is a weird change of pace and forces you to take your time

also don't gotta censor in this channel

[honest shale]

also the fuck is spelt monomon

[kind rune]

[storm trench]

Yeah that’s what I meant 😭 I’m tired

[honest shale]

fair enough

[kind rune]

how doth one check how many msgs they need for img perms other than the search bar

[vagrant grail]

It was weird for me too tbf cus the attacks either follow you or cover the screen

[storm trench]

Yeah but I should’ve executed it with more ease, it’s literally just dodging and letting that other dude weaken it basically while you get in the major hits

[vagrant grail]

Uumuu’s a very weird fight

[broken quest]

uuuuuuumuuuuuuuuuu

[storm trench]

It’s unique for sure 😭

[storm trench]

I just got off of work 🥀

[vagrant grail]

I got cooked by Soul Master for a solid WHILE, you’re not the one who has to be embarassed about execution boss

[kind rune]

naw don't get me started on first time mawlek

only boss that i've fought and had to return later in the game

[storm trench]

||Soul master|| was a bit of a struggle for me, but whew, ||broken vessel really cooked me for a while my first time||

[vagrant grail]

Broken vessel probably would be harder for me if I didn’t get the defender’s chrest

[storm trench]

To be fair, the first time I wasn’t prepared at all for the ||ancient basin or broken vessel, I didn’t have any nail upgrades or good charms, not even shaman stone, I just kinda blindly stumbled upon him||

[vagrant grail]

*crest

[storm trench]

I didn’t have that charm either my first time.. ||lol I basically waywarded and vengeful spirited my way out of the fight somehow because I didn’t even have any spell upgrades||

I clocked ||broken vessel|| first try on my second time around which is my current run because I was a lot more prepared with ||charms, spell/nail upgrades||

||mantis lords|| were also really annoying my first time around, I don’t think I ever defeated ||traitor lord because he just pmo so much||

[vernal knot]

Yall don't need to use spoiler tags

[broken quest]

my steel soul pb death was to broken vessel. idk how. I have bv radiant lol.

[storm trench]

I never did any of the bosses more advanced versions either so lost Kin kept kicking my butt this time around somehow, I still haven’t beaten him

[broken quest]

He's fun to do ascended. Radiant is hell tho. I had to cheese it.

[storm trench]

I cheesed tmg

[broken quest]

he took me 15 mins

[broken quest]

nkg took me, like, 2 weeks tho

[pseudo scarab]

yo i started the game like a week ago but havent play too much, i just got the crystal dash, i get really bored playing single player games so i was wondering if anyone would wanna just call and both play, im 15 btw if that matters

[keen thorn]

It was after beating the boss, I did this clear on attuned rather than radiant and I literally did it just for the shiny yellow glow

[broken quest]

i need to head to bed. it's, like, 9:30 pm, but I don't want to.

[storm trench]

It’s 11:39pm for me lol, I got off of work at 11pm

[broken quest]

go to sleep

[pseudo scarab]

its 1 40 pm for me

[honest shale]

so you just cleared it on radiant and took the glow and shoved it at the end so it looked nice?

[storm trench]

I will… eventually

[broken quest]

same

[broken quest]

I have a busy day tomorrow tho.

[kind rune]

gn yall go to bees

[keen thorn]

Yes

[broken quest]

meme of ot saying NUMEROUS BEES!!!

[keen thorn]

Now this was for nothing
But it's near invisible, so just imagine I put another radiant mystic and then claimed it was two in a row

[honest shale]

thats really funny actually

[keen thorn]

Used invinsibility for that second clear tho lol.

[broken quest]

fine... gn everyone.

[honest shale]

i definitely believe you and you’re totally not lying to make me question my reality or anything

[honest shale]

gn

[foggy sable]

it is as was being talked about earlier, splicing a run would be easy

[honest shale]

yeah i believe he spliced it

not that he used invincibility

and i cant be assed to go frame by frame to check

[foggy sable]

not in the video run

in the part which got the radiant mark

[tulip narwhal]

Me

[honest shale]

ohh

[honest shale]

aint no fucking way you were actually asleep

[tulip narwhal]

I was

[honest shale]

school holida-I mean pushing 50 does smth to your sleep schedule it seems

[foggy sable]

my sleep schedule also goes terrible over holidays

[honest shale]

its already shit

[keen thorn]

Yeah I did hitless on attuned as a massive fluke, but I wanted the radiant mark shiny so I spliced that.

[honest shale]

interesting

[foggy sable]

it gets worse during the holidays

[honest shale]

how

how the actual fuck does it get worse

[foggy sable]

during uni term it is actually okay

mostly

[honest shale]

consistently going to bed at 2am is not okay

thats very late

[foggy sable]

but it could be worse

[honest shale]

like oswalds

[keen thorn]

During holidays I sleep 11-7 ideally (but I don't wake myself up intentionally)
Mid-term I sleep about 10-6 so just an hour earlier

But 1 hour earlier I already hate it a lot

[honest shale]

imagine having a good sleep shedule over the holidays

[foggy sable]

fun fact this reminds me, youtube capped the number of uploads I can do

after I tried to upload 15 fights in one day

[honest shale]

thats really funny

whats the cap?

[foggy sable]

10 in 24 hours

[honest shale]

interesting

this wont affect me in the slightest

[foggy sable]

unless you get into niche single boss challenge runs sometime

[honest shale]

all i upload is pv speedruns thats not something ill ever upload

partially bcs it wont fit in 30 seconds

[zealous skiff]

hi floggy

[tulip narwhal]

Hhih

[zealous skiff]

i swear there are trash channels that upload more than that

[foggy sable]

you have to actually give id and that kind of thing if yo uwant to do more

and I'd rather not do that

[honest shale]

to upload videos?

[zealous skiff]

guh

[foggy sable]

yes

you can upload without needing to do that but the number cap you have to verify your account for

[honest shale]

what about me being a child prevents me morally from uploading an eleventh video

[foggy sable]

I think it lets you record a video to show you are a person and not a bot but I didn't want to do that either

[honest shale]

whats stopping a bot from ai generating a human face

like are they stupid?

[foggy sable]

idk I just didn't want to deal with it

[keen thorn]

Does the video history not count?

[foggy sable]

I clicked that and it just sort of did nothing

it isn't the end of the world because it is just a temporary cap but I just found it funny

[honest shale]

but what if i hit 11 pbs in 24 hrs?

how am i gonna upload?

[foggy sable]

then you can do what I am and just have a small backlog

[vestal sky]

we are all uploading to bilibili

[tulip narwhal]

Time to start my slop empire

[digital grove]

@vestal sky

[tulip narwhal]

24 one screen for every difficulty vids every DAY

[vestal sky]

@digital grove

[foggy sable]

actually, did you see I've ranked them so far in time taken

[keen thorn]

Yeah, you click it and just wait like a week or two

[tulip narwhal]

Who are ts newgens

[honest shale]

no

[keen thorn]

The issue is that they can remove it whenever they want

And they is the ai

[carmine lava]

by the 4th one you learn to not upload everything

[honest shale]

ive hit my fourth already

[vestal sky]

you should upload your eigong speedkills to bilibili

[digital grove]

so true!

[frozen hull]

If you do Collector I'll buy you an Ice cream

[foggy sable]

no

collector is evil

[frozen hull]

2 ice creams

[foggy sable]

tempting

[frozen hull]

2 ice creams and Yomi Hustle

[digital grove]

@frozen hull

[frozen hull]

@digital grove

[vestal sky]

@frozen hull

[foggy sable]

collector would be such a grind it would be awful

[frozen hull]

@vestal sky

[vestal sky]

i flowk don’t recognize you half the time whenever you change your layout 😭

[frozen hull]

:3

[vestal sky]

:2

[frozen hull]

Should I go back to OG PFP

[digital grove]

I can sense the aura of izu i think

[digital grove]

perhaps

[carmine lava]

in my unbiased opinion collector isn’t that bad…

[foggy sable]

I will learn collector some time but not that run

[keen thorn]

If you buy me an ice cream and a pumpkin seed marzipan I'll do collector

[frozen hull]

No

Shoots you dead

[foggy sable]

can you do rabono flukemarm and send me a video so I don't have to do it thanks

[frozen hull]

[zealous skiff]

i unbiasedly second this

[foggy sable]

04r might be fun and I will do some day

but not rabono collector

[foggy sable]

it is soooo bad though

[frozen hull]

Skissue

[foggy sable]

yes

[frozen hull]

Someone buy me Fallout 76

Or an ice cream

[thorn lantern]

"Oh dark, the darkness, that dozes in the dusk.."

[frozen hull]

Dusk, me mentioned

[digital grove]

:soggycat:

[frozen hull]

[idle belfry]

@sick heath tails

[sick heath]

Shame

[quartz cave]

gn

[idle belfry]

@frozen hull heads

[frozen hull]

Gambling

[digital grove]

@quartz cave gn

[sick heath]

We love gambling

[carmine lava]

the abyss

one could say the abyss of darkness

[sick heath]

I summon 500 leeches

[frozen hull]

Heta hamdo id rjat

Bro what

What game is that

[sick heath]

Mewgenics

My cat got autism

[frozen hull]

Buy it for me surely

[sick heath]

Me broke😔

[frozen hull]

Mean

I have TBoI

No DLCs

[keen thorn]

I actually kinda want to do att hitless

[foggy sable]

it seems so unpleasant

[carmine lava]

i think i did hitless itemless attuned collector

i don't think it was with bindings though

[foggy sable]

I didn't even do 04r becasue the fight sucks and I don't want to play it tbh

[frozen hull]

Hoo boy do I hate the Gurglings

[harsh mantle]

ThErE bE bAtS hIdInG iN tHe CeIlInG aGaIn

[harsh mantle]

Found the royal waterways

[rare aurora]

holy shit

[tribal moth]

is the unbreakable version of the fragile charms worse?

[rare aurora]

no

effect wise they are identical

[honest shale]

no the only difference is they dont break on death

and they cost an absurd amount of geo to get

[rose ferry]

I can't kill grimm because i am under prepared also my favorite charm has been eatan

[harsh mantle]

... Trying to get to dung defender

[sweet blaze]

@real pasture cortyyyyy

[harsh mantle]

Found em

[light harbor]

Well that was a fucking disaster.
I spent an hour trying to kill the Brooding Malek only to find out I didn't even need to be there

[vestal sky]

i can buy you mewgenics if you wire me 100 USD 👍

[frozen hull]

I dunno

[vestal sky]

it’s a steal

[dusky coral]

you get a mask shard for your efforts

[reef oriole]

Finally made it to zote p5ab

Very disappointing death but I’m glad to get there

[void marten]

liygk,hffi8gy,khb

[wicked trail]

What should I do next for my HoG

[honest shale]

you have played this game before

do markoth

shit

[wicked trail]

Nope it’s lwk my first save file

[honest shale]

do galien

[reef oriole]

Paintmaster

Dream bosses are always an easy cop out for a hard one

[light harbor]

Thanks. That's really helpful

[worn hamlet]

idk how to feel rn, this was just randomly on my yt fyp ._.

[frozen hull]

[worn hamlet]

it's not even a video someone just decided to draw this and post it for some reason

[honest shale]

who tf made it and where can i nuke them

[worn hamlet]

https://youtu.be/F0hyKWMPkrQ?si=zCigPhGsIabWREkZ

I'm starting to think the hk community is damaged beyond repair ._.

either that or my fyp is damaged beyond repair 😭

[frozen hull]

[worn hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/alola-sandshrew-sandslash-pokemon-sun-gif-7432954

[honest shale]

this is certainly a thing that exists

let me grab something

[worn hamlet]

oo

[honest shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5horocrfM

its genuinely peak

[worn hamlet]

oo

[coral marlin]

Yo @honest shale why were you confused on why I uploaded the Flukemarm vid?

Like I'm confused about you being confused on it

[honest shale]

its so random

[coral marlin]

I mean I upload random shite
Just look at half my uploads

[honest shale]

also why was this moved to discord

[coral marlin]

More direct communication

[honest shale]

very good point

[coral marlin]

Faster, more direct

Don't gotta rely on YouTube notifications

[honest shale]

also very good point

[worn hamlet]

lol

[honest shale]

however theres this wonderful thing known as “dms”

[coral marlin]

Unrelated I'm doing Charmless Nail Only Radiant Markoth

Why I'm doing this, fuck it I know

[worn hamlet]

why does this actually go kinda hard

[coral marlin]

Very good point

However

I'm stupid

[honest shale]

very good point

however

[worn hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/saltydkdan-pokemon-friendlocke-altaria-gif-11903273788130175404

[honest shale]

fuck you

[coral marlin]

Very good point
However
I'm not gae

[honest shale]

well shit

wait what

[worn hamlet]

but what if bi

[coral marlin]

Wrong
Gas leak

[worn hamlet]

gas leak?

[coral marlin]

Gas leak

[worn hamlet]

:o

[coral marlin]

#sk-discussion mate

[honest shale]

#sk-discussion

[coral marlin]

Too slow

[uncut badge]

oh sorry I didnt noticed

[honest shale]

fuck the you

[coral marlin]

Nah it's cool, don't worry

[worn hamlet]

whoops

u saw nothing :3

[worn hamlet]

you the fuck

[coral marlin]

Just like Gui's multiple spelling errors

[dusky coral]

@worn hamlet to answer your question, it's only on attack

[worn hamlet]

?

[honest shale]

[dusky coral]

Oh wait no

[uncut badge]

looks like someone robbed me

[dusky coral]

Weong ping

[dusky coral]

@uncut badge

[worn hamlet]

idk why but saying this made me laugh so hard I almost puked ;-;

[dusky coral]

tf

[worn hamlet]

am I a narcisist

._.

[honest shale]

elaborate

[uncut badge]

I mean does it only heal or also make you deal more damage than usually

[worn hamlet]

for me laughing at a dumb thing I said hard enough to almost puke

[dusky coral]

Both

[honest shale]

no

[worn hamlet]

oki doke

[uncut badge]

ah ok thanks

[thorn ruin]

@honest shale

[honest shale]

it means you probably have to go to the hospital

[worn hamlet]

:o

[honest shale]

@thorn ruin

[worn hamlet]

why might that be

[honest shale]

the nearly puking part

[worn hamlet]

well maybe not thaat far

it was more like just a lil bit of acid reflex

[honest shale]

oh

[worn hamlet]

might've exaggerated a lil bit

[honest shale]

just a lil bit

[worn hamlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bleh-ah-eto-anime-s1tAtvJLIYiVWNaCqy

[honest shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXD1PfAO8b4

[worn hamlet]

loll

anyways one more episode of yuri anime for the day then I sleep

then back to the reality of school

[honest shale]

ok gn

[worn hamlet]

gnn

ttyl :D

[coral marlin]

Hey can someone tell me why Markoth's shield takes 2 rotations to fully spread out but the ONE time I go in, prepared for it, it takes half a rotation to be EXACTLY where I am above him

[honest shale]

because fuck you

[coral marlin]

Nah that's fair

My fault for being prepared

[honest shale]

you can never truly be prepared for markoth

[carmine lava]

erm wrong

[honest shale]

unless you have been playing the game for as long as quantum has

[coral marlin]

I mean, he's pretty easy when I'm not doing Charmless Radiant Nail Only

[obtuse brook]

Hi chat

[honest shale]

why do you hate yourself

[honest shale]

goodbye

[coral marlin]

I've been asking myself that for a long time

[honest shale]

please leave

[coral marlin]

Anyway just to prove a point lemme do a quick Rad Markoth

[honest shale]

i think you have answered it before

smth smth economy

[coral marlin]

Nah that's a different thing

[honest shale]

fine then your reason is depression

are you happy now?

[coral marlin]

I dunno probably

[honest shale]

you’re probably happy

the fuck is that supposed to mean

[coral marlin]

I'm a frustrating person

[honest shale]

i dont think that answers my question

what the fuck does probably happy mean

[coral marlin]

I don't fucking know, alright

[carmine lava]

most likely, almost certainly

[coral marlin]

I say shit without knowing

[honest shale]

fair enough but are you happy or not

you still havent answered

[coral marlin]

Fuck if I know man. All I do is live in the moment. Am I happy? Am I sad? Am I fucking done with this? I don't know and I'm not gonna rant about it because this ain't the place for it.

[honest shale]

i may have pushed too far it seems

[coral marlin]

Yeah.

[honest shale]

oh no the consequences of my actions

[coral marlin]

But mainly

[honest shale]

i apologise

[coral marlin]

It's also the consequence of me getting irrationally angry at Markoth and taking it out on you

So I'm sorry for that, being immature

[honest shale]

you apologise for being immature towards a 14 year old? i dont think that needs one

[coral marlin]

Anyway I'm hopping off for the day

Goodnight guys

[honest shale]

gn

[sturdy kelp]

gamer rage moment

[foggy sable]

there are no easy and fun fights left at all, all it is is the bottom of the fun barrel

[sturdy kelp]

gaming is so over

[foggy sable]

so true

I was just like okay I've done the prep for my class what fun fights are there to do... none

god tamer was the most fun looking one

[low wharf]

what happened.

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-walter-white-breaking-bad-anime-discord-gif-25746704

[sturdy kelp]

i think bosses in general r done

we cant make them good anymore

[low wharf]

?

[carmine lava]

it's joever

[honest shale]

legit just read up

[low wharf]

why can't you just tell me

[molten yoke]

Hai gr!!

[quartz cave]

i dont think so no

[foggy sable]

hiiiii

hru

[molten yoke]

Good thx!! U?

Although I go back to school now😭

[foggy sable]

just waiting around before going to class but being really bad at the sly fight

[honest shale]

i legit forgot already bcs its so insignificant

[quartz cave]

why do we have class at the same time when we're 12 hrs apart wtfrick

[foggy sable]

late class today unfortunately

well on all mondays atm

[quartz cave]

tragedy

[foggy sable]

sly having 1200 phase 1 hp is a crime imo

[honest shale]

what the actual fuck

[low wharf]

could be worse

[carmine lava]

i think 600 in phase 2 is quite a bit worse

[honest shale]

thats only like 60 narts in rabono

[low wharf]

anyway bye

[foggy sable]

6 minute phase 1

[low wharf]

I Meant the class

[foggy sable]

I missed the reply

I meant to say to non

[honest shale]

whose that?

i dont know a non

[low wharf]

they changed my class schedule and it changes on 27 April. I will have to wake up at 6am and I will be back home at 6pm. two days in a row

[foggy sable]

it will stick as a shortening of your name

[honest shale]

whose name?

ill stop now

[sturdy kelp]

discord users and the impossible task of scrolling up five messages

[foggy sable]

I died phase 2 this sucks so much

[void beacon]

EEEEEYYYY!!!!

[honest shale]

unfortunate

[foggy sable]

finally what a bad fight

[honest shale]

cant wait ti see that iploaded in the next ten minutes

[foggy sable]

there is a backlog of 10 completed ones rn

[honest shale]

cant wait to learn how to spell as well

[honest shale]

interesting

[honest shale]

that is certainly a list

[foggy sable]

it is

probably of the ones left the 2 nosk fights and hornet 2 are the easiest

maybe soul tyrant but that fight will take forever

[honest shale]

nosk is the only fight that wont be hell on earth

[frozen hull]

My HK TTRPG character is done

Yippee

Me when I forget the character

[foggy sable]

It is normal nosk though

Who knows how to fight normal nosk

[honest shale]

me

like actually i had to learn this shit

[foggy sable]

Lies

The fight is impossible

[honest shale]

since i cant do rabono ill instead do rnonnanma nosk

which should be abt the same difficulty

first try

nosk is not hard

so now ill add charmless and hate my life

ykw fuck nma im using movement

[foggy sable]

Full charms is much more damage

[keen mango]

You'll get it eventually. I can't lie I actually struggled a bit when fighting the guy my first time, but you can somewhat cheese him by sticking to sides of the big platform in the main room.

[honest shale]

this has to be bait

[honest shale]

its only 8x per hit

[keen mango]

What do you mean 8 x?

[honest shale]

compared to rabono

which shes doing

[keen mango]

What is rabono? I'm confused.

[honest shale]

radiant all bindings old nail only

[keen mango]

My bad I was thinking yall were discussing normal ass Nosk

[honest shale]

no thats piss easy

[keen mango]

fr

[honest shale]

im pissed they made winged nosk

for the simple reason that we cant have ascended nosk in p5

i actually enjoy nosk without the platform