#hk-discussion
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#hk-discussion sucks, question mark
No channel is fully good anymore
Cat
takes 1 weird person
more like #hk-general sucks
Oh well at least a ban is a ban
#sk-discussion is the worst.
Kill #sk-discussion like they did with it's twin brother
who got banned
Hmmmmmmmmm

Hopefully you in a sec
wait why
leon hyd
Your weird
nah why
Doing alr 
#rules-and-info is a free channel for everyone to access
say whaaa
hear me out on the hollow knight,i dont care if hes infected im going at it
It isn't a "He"
and stop.
7 mods online and no action is rough
no
Oh boy
mmmmm who else could i say for a hear me out
Youtube.com/leonhk is also a free channel for everyone to access

how bout uhhh the pale king
some white guy idk
i.. see you
no eyes doesnt
@ sleep go to sleep
speaking of chomp
well i was going to speak of chomp but i didnt get it yet
Wha
lune....
Btw this doesnt even lead to my channel im pretty sure
i havent heard that name in years
i didnt bring it up hey
LMAO
too late now
y new acc
wasnt the one to bring it up
Hkgen is worse

buddy
Lost kin harder than radiance why
i keep forgetting my passwords
exactly my point
because im really clever
fast and small and adds
hkdisc is one of the last bastions of goodness in this server
Someone in this timezone needs to take the hit of becoming a mod
dibs you
hkdisc pretty good
Unfortunately i would rather not be a virgin for life so bags not
speedrunning and rando are also chill
Yeah fair
hkhelp conversations are unbeaten but like.. theyre not intended there
#sk-discussion is probably more miserable than the battle of Agincourt
ive got prioritises unfortunately
when all the needed help moves over here is the best time
because no spoiler markers needed
i’m just not a fan of hkhelp bc i always wanna give like
the interesting and correct answer
i just really am not fond of helping others to be honest
as opposed to the comprehensible and helpful answer
i just ignore the boring questions
eloki
Aren’t you Australian there’s like 50 Australian mods
True
And a good chunk of the time none of them are active
@sleep tf
EgfloggyGoggy
Thanks friend
markish
Hwwy wdflodfyffogfyyg
im actually not falling asleep this performance. thank energy drinks!!
bars
How tight is the window for the speedrun achievements?
very lenient
Not very
Oh I’ve been doing a lot of unnecessary optimization then
You have plenty of hours to spare
Okay lol good to know
I think doing a general route is good but you dont need like skips or tech or anything
Rven if you die 40 times uou are probably clear by like 3 hours
I wasn’t doing that just small things like skipping benches to save a few seconds
mяkish
You will I believe
Im not bro
watcher spire pogo and fca will like guarantee sub 3 pretty much
neither are super mechanical
whats fca
forgotten crossroads acid skip
huh
some people call it fog canyon acid but like
oh ok why did u say "forgotten crossroad" skip then
there are multiple acid skips in fog canyon
there is?
off the top of my head i can name 3
okay
can you imagine doing acid in fog canyon
would be crazy
i dont even know theres a skip except fca
inter-dimensional tech
is there some ways to do the thing from fungal to fog canyon?
no, team cherry hates fun and blocked that one off from being doable
or else it would be too easy
i mean maybe
you could just get to archives with dash claw, but you can’t really get to monomon with dash claw so it wouldn’t really matter
ohhh
didnt know you needed cdash for mono
no shade nearby?
on lp ismas is faster
yeah it depends on patch
how is isma faster
because of a glitch called stallball, on later patches it’s worth it to get wings + isma’s
Can stallball be done on current patch
getting wings makes getting isma’s very fast
it’s fps dependent and can only be done in certain spots, but yes
this is the main one that makes isma’s viable
yeah, it has a janky interaction with sloped corners
pineapples
and even if you have a low enough fps, the exact position you need to be still depends on your fps
unless im misremembering how the glitch works
idk about that part
choom do you like pineapples
HELLL YEAHH
well from my understanding it needs to hit the slope on frame 2 and depending on the fps, the fireball will travel a different amount of space per frame
i feel like that’s wrong
i do stallballs sometimes and i think it actually might be frame 2
i got this info from thinking abt it so it’s probably wrong
stallball doesn’t speed up based on rng
at no point did i mention rng
ok then i’ll say this
stallball doesn’t speed up unless you hit the wrong part of the slope
it doesn’t matter when you do it, it’s where you do it
that’s why it’s fully consistent with a framerate cap
i may have worded it poorly
What
the fireball starts faster and ends slower in my experience
yknow what would be like
HAHA
the fireball isnt changing its speed
really annoying
Why is there a sword up there 💀
the frames are
I can hit it but won't take damage from it
what if you had to go to the mask maker every time you want to get more masks
like imagine you finally get your first 4 mask shards
and then you have to go through deepnest
and since it depends on the frame it hits the slope, thats why i believe position matters
yes but im saying at a higher fps you would need to be slightly closer
to account for the faster frames
do you mean frame after cast?
yes
yeah one time i tried it with vsync off while doing a rando on accident and i can confirm i had to change positions
ok so you’re just saying cast from the right position
not cast at the right timing
ok yeah i understand the confusion now
im saying the precise position you need to be at for stallball changes depending on your current frame rate
we havent gotten anywhere have we
oops
i was just confused that we were framing positioning in terms of time elapsed
yeah that makes sense
i’m not stem brained enough for that
i probably could have explained it better from the start though
possibly
i don’t know what frame the ball has to wall in order to stall i just know like what horizontal and vertical positioning works
im pretty sure its frame 2
possibly
could be wrong though
is it just us 3?
nah there are people lurking
possibly
say hi, people lurking
hi
hi
2 more ppl coming out of nowhere made me laugh
mwommp was already talking before
hi
now that i realise it i laugh like scooby doo
Why is my heartbeat this high when I'm just sitting🥀 fighting NKG
I thought radiance was hard
Then I met 1st sinner
I thought it was peak difficulty
Then I met NKG🥀
no ss spoilers here pls
that is the skinniest text wall i’ve ever seen
Ooh mb bro
Nkg is just a boss u gotta learn 👍
silksong spoiler mods cut off his balls
U got this
Chat I’m replaying hollow knight, this is my second playthrough and I’m at that point again where I have to fight the ||broken vessel|| again and I don’t want to, I hate him 
It took me 70 tries LITERALLY 4 HRS STRAIGHT TO BEAT HIM 1ST TIME
And I can't beat him again in god home still🥀
😭 how am I gonna beat the pantheons
Oh it took me like 15 minutes
wings is optional
NO COST TOO GREAT
to spoil silksong?
Nkg was just a boss i had to learn and I alr did radiant normal Grimm before so ig that helped
To beat pantheons
Is hollow knight a silksong spoiler because it takes place befote silksong
Think about it
your balls are getting cut of from skong spoilers not pantheons
First tried him on my first playthrough with ddark spam just follow in my footsteps ✌️
I don’t enjoy nail bouncing that much, so I guess ima just suck it up

I cheesed Grimm ig that's why I had to learn nkg from scratch
I spammed abyss shrieks with shaman stone and spell twister in Grimm f8
Beated Grimm in 2nd try
But nkg🥀 💔
its only required to get to watchers
Soul master down, time is at one hour two minutes, I take it this is a good pace for the achievement?
Just use defenders crest & quick slash, dont get too greedy and knock them back and get ready for them to jump on u at any moment
You’re not gonna like the path of pain then
These sweats 😔
NO SILSKONG SPOILER😭 🙏
Nkg isnt that much harder than Grimm, and u can still get some good damage in the pufferfish phase, Id suggest doing one attempt where u just learn to dodge, dont attack. Also nail arts are very useful in this fight
Did you really just try to ping here
This feels like the gen alpha equivalent of people trying to type in “anime voice”
I skipped ||pop|| on my first playthrough, my boyfriend rage quitted it too I’m pretty sure
it really does
Yeye sounds like a < 3 hour run to me
Im skipping it too bc whats the point of doing it anyway
Yeah u got this!
Less than 3 thas not sposed to be a heart
Much harder actually, but equally consistent.
its really not this is more annoying
❤️ hour run
I just found him to be a harder hitting faster Grimm tbh
well he is
My fastest is like a little over 2 hours lol
That’s pretty much what he is
Funny how the big 3 all have easier variants to help you get better at them before, pretty nice game design
That’s what I was thinking, like it’s just for intrinsic pleasure, ||you don’t get a special achievement or anything|| 
Surprisingly he has more healing opportunities than regular Grimm
Achievement!!
Double damage is significantly harder gng 😔✌️
Is there an actual achievement or like a mental one
tmg has multiple 2 healing windows though, nkg doesnt really
Yes that's how I did Grimm after getting beaten up in 10 seconds for 40 times
I thought let's just learn dodging usi attacks
I dodged and died 8 times ig and then I could survive a minute or 2
Then I said let's use attack mid battle
Then too I improvised that quick slash can help
Then I needed to heal too
So I used quick focus
THE WORST ATTACK IN NKG FIGHT IS THE FREAKING SPIKES FROM BELOW
ITS 70% CHANCE OF ME HITTING IT BY MOVING AWAY FROM IT😭
holy fucking essay
Both I think
Mental one, ||pop doesnt even add to the 112% completion||
Yeah, it’s just a feeling of fulfillment I get really, a playthrough without the path of pain feels empty for me
do we need to space each line out on a different page
I thought they had equal
Spike attacks and staggered
LORE!!!!
They have an audio queue u can use
yes
One scene of lore
U got this 🔥
Yes?
Nkg has the spike attack and the fire pillar attack, both are healing opportunities
You dont understand hes dramatic
you arent double healing on nkg spikes without completely guessing where they will be
can you please not use like 15 lines on my screen please?
you cannot double heal on nkg spike consistently..
And like hes the main character so he needs to apace everything out for dramatic effect and emphasis
No, I don’t mean double heal, just heal
I was so frustrated i decreased the music volume too
you can heal on every single nkg attack
Space the heals out so u dont have to double heal
Nah
You just...
Dont understand ... 😔
Not as safely
Music & Sound volumes have different sliders
this has no relevance to my original message btw
And get hit right after?
no lol
theyre all easy except for dash dive
@hallow solar Ok I beat Pantheon3
The trick was just to stall Hornet2 fight and play it safe to have Soul to use to heal
Then just gun it and facetank Sly
just bce hes using a computer and it doesnt take up the entire fucking screen
Anybody here done PATH OF PAIN
Me and one of my friend did it and now we call ourselves
THE PATH OF PAIN BROTHERS
How do u heal on fire pillars
is this satire
Well uh i died on radiant absrad when she had 1 hit left to kill 

Shape of unn / just heal after 4th pillar ends
I hate this guy
What is satire
every single attack is healable on nkg
I go 1 pillar, 2 pillar, hit on the side, 3 pillar, hit under, 4 pillar, heal
Reminds me, cant u just shade cloak through the third pillar when the fourth pillar is about to come to heal instead of sending an abyss shriek
Does pufferfish count too?
you dont need to shade cloak but yes
its just healing after 4th pillar ends
I just used nail arts the entire fight until I had enough to hit an abyss shriek instead on the pillars and repeated
Ngl I forgot how laughably easy ||nosk|| was
Yesss
Pogo & Ddark make it the easiest thing in the world
puffer is also predictable since it happens at 75/50/25 or 57/38/19
so you can double heal it easily
For me the hardest boss was prolly radiant vengefly😂
Can u even do that consistently without getting massacred by the next attack
let me just link a video
I didn’t even pogo lol, I just upslashed and ||stayed still basically and ddarked||
Radiant massive moss charger was the hardest ngl
I dont think you are old enough to be on discord
Ok
Oh wait I forgot about the normal arena im used to the p5 one lol
Yeah upslash is very useful
And u can easily heal there too
Bro he was the easiest
And the ball turning dream guy too
I used quick slash and grubberflys ellegy
I probably will pogo when I get to the more advanced ||nosk||
yay i can do qga after getting isma tear!!
I know ur cringing but u gotta remember that a video game discord is bound to have 13-14 yr olds in their weird phase lol
I say let kids be kids
so cool bruh
Bro I'm in uni😭
I take that bsck
If we dont turn one of these walls into a copy pasta we are seriously missing out
Which uni
heres a video made by @ nonsenf
White Defender? He can easily be beaten by just staying near the wall 👍
it doesnt include puffer but as puffer is predictable, you can double heal (but at that level you wouldnt be getting hit)
iirc you can also just shade dash 12th orb and heal assuming worst rng
But nice
unicycle lessons
I vote this one
Omg no way is nonsenf still here, they’re archaic
Do u actually count the orbs
No no I think gorb is his name
Oooo thanks for the tip
Thats very dangerous for a 10 year old to learn
Yeah they were basically always there when I was living in hk-help on my first playthrough too
Tbf circus kids exist i think
its worth knowing, every 4th orb is guaranteed to be a bottom + middle orb, and the 12th is the final which lets me get a dashslash off
Ty to who gave me the strat
Ill keep this in mind as im trying to beat him rn
He’s pretty easy, there’s way too many healing windows
I thought it was pure rng
every non 4th orb is rng afaik
Well during radiant you arent really healing
atleast not relevant enough of a pattern
O
But the walls are pretty much a safe spot
but knowing that theres 12 lets you wings + dash slash after the 12th for extra 52 dmg
Kyoto
The alright great minded ||glorb||
Spear circle spam
@zealous skiff haii
Ascend with gorb!
Hes like one of 2 good dream warriors
Yes
Hi mizukii
Who is the other
Whats the radius for this bc theres definitely more than 12 in the entire room
Are gorb and grub relatwd☠️
I got 57-last click 
What
i mean theres 12 waves of orbs in each direction
Gorb and grubs related?
What level
Alr
and each 4th wave is guaranteed to be a bottom + middle wave
Other than Gorb, who r the smartest hk characters
I wish there was a free gorb emoji
acheron
glub glub
WHAT
Oh, I was looking for a white one (that sounds kinda racist but it’s true)
GO
i feel miserable rn with every session everyday looking like this
GUHHH
Bro I only have two extremes 😭
Bro I only have 2 hard demons 💀
I’ve been playing for 8 years tho 
how do i keep hope if i hop on tartatus everyday for 4 hours and just get this
Damn i played it as a mobile game til like 2023 then stopped playing in 2024
I play mobile still I find it more comfortable
2 months 90k attempts and not a ounce of consistency can be squeezed out of this shit
I mean at least your consistent. If you keep rolling enough dice at the 40-60 section youll pass it eventually
Truthtfully idk xus tartarus is top 1 mental demon
Oh oops
idk
cuz im so bad at 41-64
23-64 on tartarus alone is bloodlust difficulty i stg
I rarely ever use ||defender’s crest||, but I guess I’ll give it a try when I go up against ||broken vessel||
ive geniuenly been trying so hard to keep my mental together
but its just getting so hard you know?
Yeah
spoiler blocks arent needed
mostly thanks to support from rly rly great friends to keep my mental in check with tartarus everyday and console me
but this shit is just
Idk maybe play like an easy extreme or some shit i actually have no clue
gets to you when you do it everyday
its like you try to do same shit everyday same result no progress
just top1 mental demon
pure vessel
🎲
basically
Ok im sorry but with pv you get to set your limit while with tartarus the limit is basically set for you as “beat the level and you are free” which is 1000x easier said than done
well you see, na im good
wait what are we comparing pv to tart or what 😭 😭
Anybody here done PATH OF PAIN
Me and one of my friend did it and now we call ourselves
THE PATH OF PAIN BROTHERS
I speedrun pv
ahhhh i see
Bro i thought you were my PATH OF PAIN BROTHER 💔
after tartarus and walter white ill take a break from hardest to do easier levels to build up skill
Peak
🫳🏿

🫴🏿
walter white?
You were the friend who did it w me ♥️
The game is always funner when playing easier shit ngl
before i do my first mainlist (ill do smth high cuz i am planning to not beat walter white when its mainlist cuz walter white is gona be extended list in 3 months)
Level

Cant believe tartarus is no longer mainlist
my favorite range is 400-200 they are hard enough you gain skill but easy enough they take 2-3 weeks max
i refuse to believe someone named a level walter white
My final hardest will probably be diamond blade
I also find with easy extremes i have expectation that i dont with that range of levels
im looking at firework or deimos as my first main
Firework is peak
Hi guys
there is also just a lot fun levels in that range like eternal moment and knights of thunder i especially wana do kot
You could do climax while it is on manlist if you want to cheap out
i dont like it
hi
Holy fuck eeternal moment is peak
Any of you know the big bill Hell’s parody commercial?
also im doing walter white and walter is higher then climax
Ah k
Wait walter is mainlist?
its 62
Oh shit gl
Fuck
3 mainlist 6 main or extended
so lets say 50 50 3 main 3 extended
6 main in next month
im also not gona immediately do walter after tartarus
i rly like walter as a level
but it got boring (i have 80k attempts)
and yk tartatus crushed my mental
gd players have so much fucking patience
so im mentally prepared to just do walter as a extended list
I wish I had the skill for Spectre, it looks so peak
Thats fair
like how
And safer cus racing to do a level in a time limit sucks
i dont need to stress
i need to beat tartarus fast so i have enough time to do walter
thats smth i dont need rn
i wana fully prepare (probably do a lot levels ranging from sonic wave -> zodiac difficulty like 5-10 of them) then just
firework (cuz fw wont be extended for at least a year and half)
Its in the 30s now isnt it?
@honest shale I’m working on a parody of the Big Bill Hell’s Cars commercial but it’s Leg Eater with his fragile charms
ok
Ok a year is fair but i woulnt bet on a year and a half. Thats 18 months for firework to move 40 spots which is doable
Yeah
i came back to gd for a year and went from black blizzard -> 91 tartarus and 60 walter white
Geez
my dream hardest is acheron
sorry, I don't remember you 😔
thanks for the ping
butb cheron seems compleyely out of the quesyion
lune
especially cuzbi cant do shory levels
while u do unknown cobwebs i can only do xls and tartarus
I gave unknown a 0/10 and i think cobwebs a 2/10
i also rly wana do shutdown and the rupture btw
But ? Seems completely out pf the question
PEAK
ya but u still got a lot mechanical skill from those short levels
acheron is completely out of the question for me to do
honestly...... ever
2.2 took it from 10/10 to like 6/10
if im getting fucked this hard by tart
Nah if you can improve from black blizzard to tart in a year you can do ahceron eventually
I would also get fucked by tartarus. No one doesnt
Pro tip dont look at att count while grinding 
ig ya
Wow I actually struggle against hollow knight more than pv because im not used to how slow he is
Python
i check deathtracker and att daily and get sad
Chomp
Lol fr which is why i just dont 
i should start doing that

🐑
im trying to tell myself the more i get cooked by tart the bigger the final achievement will be
its gona hit so hard when i finish it
Yeah i imagine
its not excitement if i beat it in 1 week yk?
so im just building up for the final moment
It’s okay, I wouldn’t expect you to, I took a pretty big break from hollow knight/silksong and was inactive here for quite a bit
I miss rose
Ive been trying to get myself to have my acheron goal be “playing the level everyday” rather than runs idk if that might be a useful mental for you
This popoff about to be crazy
I miss slons
SLONS IS SO EVIL BRUH
Who is slons what did they do again
were you asking for help in #hk-help or how do you know me?
What does the passing of the ages "to be continued" mean? Is Mr mushroom in sk?
idk slons was just mean to everyone when he was here
mr mushroom is in every game including yakuza you just have to find him
Fr?
i have a consistency goal which i got to 64% once in last 3 days
no, yes mr mushroom is in silksong tho
i would feel a lot better if i have 97% on tart instead 91
Was his quest before silksong so it was a teaser for another game?
cuz i havent even gotten the fateful 97 death yet
You could fluke it 
At floggy hoppy question mark
ill geniuenly be so proud of myself if i pull through with tart
by far my proudest achievement in my life
I will be too 
ty!!!
ty a lot for support!!!
dude
im eating food rn
and my fucking right arm is sore
cuz how much tartarus i played
lowkey one of my fav things about silksong is how if you equip shakra's rings and you click the challenge button it does a special challenge animation and sound
Bit later 
Ping if or when

I would say take a break but youve taken once recently right?
i played like 8 hours in a row i think
Wtf
🍍
Idk how you can spend that long on a level
idk want to beat it
Yeah true
also was in vc with my best friend for most of it
Thats an insane session
Oh that maes sense 
ya!!!
wait no
we started vc 11 hours ago and played minecraft for 3 hours
it was 8 hour session 😭 😭 😭 i played the last like 2 hours alone
so the last 2 hours especially got to me
i played tart a pretty clicky level for 8 hours straight
no wonder my entire arm is sore 💀 💀 💀
Slinky grand return to celeste when 🥱 🥱
chance is low
ill be playing gd for at least multi year in future i wana do acheron
there is also a lot other level i wana do
i could never feel good enough to play gd for that many hours straight
never doing tartarus without a vc ever again
ive been able to retain a acceptable mental state for a while and the moment i play 2 hours out vc my mental state goes 📉
Slinky grand return to hk when
idk
chance is prob also not higj
high
i played silksong first playthrough and everything i loved it
but gd is just the challenge i wana undertake
Slinky Itemless r5ab when
Sighhh celeste is the best game im just too bad to do anything hard
Hello everyone
Omg it's the Charizard x
after a 2 month break from p5ab I die to nkg bruh
Same thing happened to my brother lol
Ive never died to him before
Bro r u my brother with some alt acc or something 😭
🤫
🫂
yeah its all over (P5)
you’ll be fiiiine
I died. Just not instantly
yeah playing nkg on 1 hp in p5 is very stressful
Its nightmarish and grimm
i would flame you for dying but ive fumbled p5 from full hp to that guy
also why werent you at full hp going into nkg
I suck at both sly and gpz
Got annoyed and overly aggressive.
Oh and markoth suck at him too lol
So like what are the chances for in the sisters of battle fight for all 3 of them to do the wall attack at the same time
is it not 0%
That sucks
it's 0% because you need to go out of your way to make it happen by abusing how their ai works
Oh I was spamming abyss shrek and d+dark and all 3 went on the wall at once
Chat each mask counts as 1% game completion right?
i believe its possible but not intended
ive seen it but its definitely a bug in the code
you can desync sisters yeah
the easy way to have 3 blades at once is kill when then 2 are on the wall and have the third to an insta attack
hi grey 
which do you think is harder, r5ab or p045?
Are YOU, yes YOU, struggling in Pantheon 5? Or just need to teach those nasty godhomers who’s boss?
BOY DO I HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR YOU!
ddark
For the low low price of 16,400 geo, you, YES YOU, can have the CHEESIEST charm loadout on the market!
@zealous skiff THIS LEVEL
p045?
basically just collector
I think so if I remember right
Just use Grubsong, Thorns of Agony, Quick Slash, Deep Focus, and Unbreakable Strength, and you’ll be on your merry way to shredding Godhome to pieces!
I dont plan on learning collector to find out
Toa 
yes
it is
Thought so
Quick focus is three notches
i still haven't slept yet
oyu said deep focus
What do you mean by “toa?”
Then isnt it great that we arent talking about quick focus
and toa is thorns
it's almost 7am and i don't wanna sleep
Oswald strat
Well, my dear customer, thorns of agony is top-of-the-line technology in helping you stagger bosses!
might have to start playing league soon /j
I would like to vouch for toa
Thorns is worse than charmless
very good charm
guh
btw why are some charms so hated
It’s more of a secondary charm than anything.
thorns of agony, heavy blow, what's really bad with these
Defenders crest + Flukenest
You do the same or more damage just using your nail during the lost iframes
Dcrest + flukes
Make your spell useless
It literally plays both offense and defense. What even IS there to hate.
Forrrrr the low low cost of ONE charm notch!
Toa animation reduces active iframes which can be used to do the same or more damage, or heal, reposition etc
Hblow being 2 notches is expensive for -1 stagger cost, and knocking enemies away is typically worse because less dps (excluding markoth and oblobbles)
It does neither
it does both spiritually
stagger cost?
It literally gives you multi-hit thorns during the I-frame period of getting hit, which can be REALLY useful in the long haul of P5
Dunno why i said cost
But it reduces stagger threshold by 1
so u need 1 more hit?
Why am i still entertaining this
Grubsong LITERALLY gives you soul when you get hit.
One less hit
its a raw positive, just not for 2 notches and less dps
I'm entertained by this
Hello everyone
Afternoon mega
Hello Moone
Thorns also has amazing synergy with Quick Focus and can get you out of a rut.
Grey hop off the alt
soon
Here’s an example. You’re at low HP fighting a particularly nasty boss. Then your HP drops from 2 to 1 after getting hit, but OOP! AgThorns staggers the boss! That leaves you with time to heal a TON with quick focus!
ahk thanks :>
If you didn't have thorns you could heal using the hit Iframes without needing a stagger
no what
but also without thorns you could use iframes to smack the boss once and stagger anyways 
p045 seems fun ish aside from 2 fights
Ah, but that’s where you’re wrong! Your own I-frames are FAR shorter than boss staggers! The former lasts a couple dozen frames and the latter lasts multiple seconds!
i dont think iframes last long enough to heal even with qfocus, maybe you could with stalwart as well but like why
collector and gpz?
Even otherwise you can just hit the boss with your nail during the hit Iframes to stagger the boss
collector and flukemarm
I almost respect how dedicated you are to the bait
…Why are you calling it bait.
OH yeah youre right
I haven't played HK in a while so I need to cheak that
04 gpz is the uncontested best
Consider vfk
@shrewd nymph I’m dead serious. Why are you calling it bait.
talking like this is a specialist proof
its probably worse if it isnt bait
What is bait?
Toa being op
Ever heard of this magnificent thing called “pogonailing?”
Unironically no
That's a good joke
haaaii genio
Hi
elaborate...
almost as good as when people say down pogoing
You can pogonail vengefly king like forever
its just called a pogo 💀
Ive genuinely never heard of 'pogonailing' until now
Wth is pogonail
To where? The void below?
same lol
It also sounds pretty weird
Have you heard of shade soul fireballing
pogonailing lmfao
haii ei
You use your NAIL to POGO. POGONAILING.
hi vessel 
There is no way that's a real thing
i haven't slept and it's 7am
Just call it Nail Pogo or even just Pogo
Sleep now
have you ever tried aoe cyclone slash
Bro just pogo
no
Spell descending dark an then nail pogo and mantis claw wall climb before finishing with a crystal heart crystal dash
Fine. I’ll call it pogoing for short.
not running pv for once is so healing
magical experience
i never knew there were other things to do in games!
Anyway, you get WAY more damage from Pogoing the Vengefly Kings while they’re idling in midair than you do with D-dark while they swoop
well in that case you use your nail to pogonail, so why not pogonailnailing
how do i pogonail vengefly king to maximize my dps
nailpogonailpogoing

Using Abyss Shreak completely destroys Vengfly King
omg i never consider upshrieking
Upshreaking is the new meta
…!
Oh my god. Why haven’t I thought of that.
sideways shriek pogoing
ALRIGHT I GET IT
lol sorry i had to
Anyway…
upwings
you were joking about how thorns of agony is good
Idk, but have you tried shrogo?
And don’t you go assuming anything about AgThorns
do radiant thorns 👍
Assuming only makes an
ASS out of
U and
MING
@ chomp
phase 1 only sorry i dont know how to counter focus or tendrils
WHY SPOIL
dont worry its just pure vessel bro
What jades did you use

Fun fact
Thorns is used at its best in radiant fights
it really is lol
it no longer debuffs you
qi swipe, swift blade, divine hand, last stand, swift descent
For speed skills this build makes sence
You could also use a Full Control during her triple poke attack
im aware
I think you should optimize more Full Control other than that it's really good
Hi
im also not using full control anymore im running qi blast for funsies 
cause arrows are glitched af with last stand and give you like 44% more damage compared to 20% with other attacks
and i yearn for the sand 
your name is the best bc of 🍍
Arrows in general get square damage buff like 1.2 go to 1.44 as 12²=144 like in Story Mode when you give a 10x damage multiplier arrows get a 100x damage multiplier
😭
rcg never patch arrows please
tc already robbed us of flukenest
there is one thing that speedkilling in hk has over 9sols and that is the fact i dont have to take as long setting up fury manually as i have to do with last stand
i can just delete half my masks with debug and overcharm then i have fury active in 1 or 2 hits depending on the boss
then with last stand i have to sit for like 15 seconds spamming with swift blade before i can even go into the fight
Can't you get hit by Eigong Twice to just activate Last Stand
yeah but i would prefer to have it immediately going in which is only possible in overworld cause battle memories just resets your hp
3-4 shadow hunters at the start is ruthless and i love it
Other than ||Eigong and Yanlao|| for all the other bosses I think you can just keep slashing to get below 25%hp before you start the fight
yea i mean for her specifically
not interested in running the other bosses atm
maybe Lady E and Jiequan down the line
Pineapple
It’s near midnight but for some godforsaken reason the urge to beat up radiant pure vessel for the heck of it is calling to me like the damn green goblin mask
speedrun it, run quickslash strength shaman steady body dreamshield 
YOU’RE WRONG
Quick Slash
Unstrength
Soul Catcher
Spell Twister
Shaman Stone
Growth mindset imo

Phew I thought that was anika for a second
Dreamshield defender's crest sbody strength quickslash mark of pride /srs
mark of pride
shaman is right there smh
shaman better also how did you fit in defenders crest
HI anika
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
speedrunning with legacy qslash 🧠
buh
okay remove defender's crest it does fuckin' nothing anyway
do you have defenders crest for any actual reason or
Wait you can just do that fr
yes but thats cringe
its usually good for normal pv speedruns cos you have an extra notch
But you can still do that fr
cuz if not use dreamwielder
So you’re saying to DOODOO STINKY RadPV to death…
WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS.
:gleeful:
dwielder against pv holy meta
TRUE
run thorns pv so you get damage on the fury setup imo
dwielder + dshield⁉️
but in radiant you dont have the spare notch since you're not using fury and are using shaman instead
Extra 20 damage > 1 less hit but you can't fit in dcrest
I might have just figured out EVERYTHING EVER
would that even do any more damage?
i think theres a bigger issue
are they talkign about pv
Address the elephant in the room
you cant dreamnail pv 
just dream nail pv at the start of the fight its sooooo easy
My phone is at low battery and I have a flight early tomorrow bye you sickos
oh fuck
new strat lock in
im running off bye bye
it makes dream shield spin faster
Fuck you byeee 
which is?
makes dreamshield even more op
bro doesn't know
you cant dnail pv
yeah ik that but it makes dreamshield spin faster
it makes the shield larger iirc
which i thought was the goal
not spin faster
Does it make it recharge faster? I don't think so
only affects the size i think
valid reason i guess but it still does nothing
and you just position so it proccs instantly
I can't believe iam saying this but,,, defender's crest just better
didnt we literally have a discussion on this yesterday bro
as in there is literally nothing else to equip for 1 notch
Wait nvm thorns lock in
look man i got 2 stars in my clan war attacks this morning
i wasnt there so now im forcing it to happen again
is that bad idk i dont play clash of clans royale deluxe season 6 pubg league legends
What low gear steel soul silksong does to a motherfucker
wait does it actually?
no
Pubg my beloathed
it does something to dshield
anyway you can usually get 6 stars 3 on each attack
oh it does lmaooo
I got 2 total.
it makes it biggerer
Iam so fucked
Ask suscat he's right there
how do u get the mf to stand there and TAKE IT
noclip imo
ok ref how do you have this
WHAT WHERE
i lowkey kinda wish i was tho
Right there bro
Rng stagger and playing around every attack
like how do you manipulate the bozo to just sit there
You don’t you grind the rng
hope to god he doesnt teleport
please charm build fpor puere vessel pleeease
it's like watcher knights but you need to hope they use backroll every single attack
Mark of pride longnail steadybody strength unbreakable heart
you don't get to hit him anyway so quickslash bad
blocked
Daggers and dash* attack are world record run killers but the rest is playable but there are better rng chain attacks you want
Bro you literally asked for it 😭
i HATE your build
Why does it warrant a block tho???
triple slash and focus?
thorns of agony, gwomb.
you don't really need a charm build tbh charms don't help you much in pv
its problematic.
Whoops didn’t mean to send a friend request
problematic charm build that shouldnt have a fandom
It’s not just triple slash and soul attack
Thank youj
yw 
What do you MEAN problematic it's literally just the funny big nail
You just dodge
Yeah true
IM FR
Bruh I’m not gonna explain pure vessel speedruns that’s just gonna take too long
literally how you beat every boss in a game
Pray and win lol
i thought they were most efficient
yeah but pv there's nothing much other than dodging
like you can't optimize the hits or smth
so am i getting unblocked :>?
Yeah why not
Unless ur me
are there any more max dps attacks?
its the same with every other boss
also side parrying some attacks is slightly better cos it doesn't take you as far off the ground
unless your suscat where parrying is shit once more because the precise dodges are better
you're the goat btw holy shit those are impressive
me when i lie
pillars is good for getting hits in
or shrieks if youre on radiant
Pillar with specific rng might be better than soul attack
or infinite damage if youre suscat
i'm using my experience and personally i actually have pure vessel in more than a minute
can you teach me
i'm assuming that they're referring to pure vessel when played for the first like 10 times
and i have it in 14 seconds your point?
if you're beating pure vessel in 14 fucking seconds i don't think i can give any advice
Shut up 10.50 BOZO
and it took me 10 minutes to beat that 
11.50*
That's better
im not good enough at the game for 10.50
My point is, I'm assuming eigong and me are BOTH ass
Yeah
im not looking for advice im disagreeing
eigong is better than me
okay then well idk
eigong dont listen to these casuals run toa gwomb heavy blow jonis and idk grubberflies elegy or smth
TRUE
grimmchild.
then you can disagree with me i'm not as good as you
You don't want to learn about the demon queer eignog



