hk-discussion

[young lake]

i dont have a choice

[frozen storm]

Oh well

Cry

[quartz cave]

thats suboptimal

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

@naive dew

[young lake]

wahtever

[quartz cave]

its ok u can work so i get half of ur salary so i eont have to work

[young lake]

i am not making much but ok

its complicated.

[storm flax]

@young lake

[young lake]

hi SPABALL

[storm flax]

hi SERDNA

[frozen storm]

Hi spol hi melone

[young lake]

waht is UP

[storm flax]

uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh idk!! Hru!!

[surreal kestrel]

I just beat p3!

[queen lodge]

Nice

[fleet wadi]

last night i finally defeated PV and P4

:3

[hollow nova]

GG

[frozen hull]

@storm flax You're gay

[tribal tide]

Ayy

[storm flax]

Nah

[tribal tide]

Another pure vessel beater added to the collection

[sturdy bloom]

Pv is so much more annoying than nkg holy fuck

Maybe not just the lame ass bosses to get back is annoying

Can u practice him in the hall or forced to pantheon

[ebon depot]

Hes unlocked in hog once you encountrr him

[sturdy bloom]

Thank God

Won't be long till p4 is done then

[frozen hull]

Lies

[tribal tide]

Cap

PV trillions times easier

I can leak my methods if you want

[prisma apex]

hell naw

[sturdy bloom]

I can feel hes easier just faster than nkg

Not used to the timing yet

[prisma apex]

please give methods

[native epoch]

i never realised absrad spawns at different heights in the first phase

[tribal tide]

Whats your charm build

[tribal tide]

Wait WHAT

SHE DOES??

[prisma apex]

strength, mark of pride, quickslash, soul twister

[native epoch]

same reaction

[tribal tide]

Aight hear me out tho

Shaman stone strength quick slash and sharp shadow

[stark marlin]

like... yes
if you like jumping up to her and upslashing, it becomes obvious

[prisma apex]

sharp shadow thats a good one

[stark marlin]

sshadow huh
into who, pv?

[tribal tide]

Yeah

Okay now let me explain what you do

[prisma apex]

its gonna be hard to get used without mark of pride but ill manage

[tribal tide]

So first of all when he does 3 slashes or his fash you dash through him and hit a shade soul of you have soul

[pliant bough]

it was always thought to be a sequel

[tribal tide]

When he throws the spikes at you dash through them and hit 3 times (he usually parties at the fourth hit)

He doesn't always parry tho. If he doesn't try and go for more hits

[sturdy bloom]

Oh hell nah I accidentally clicked ascended pv im cooked

[tribal tide]

Sometimes he can do a spike throw and then do it again right after so more fre hits

When he does ground spikes jump and land between the spikes

It's hard at first but gets way easier overtime

[prisma apex]

alr thank you brother

[sturdy bloom]

No fuck this

[prisma apex]

im going to try this

[sturdy bloom]

I cant play without sprintmaster

[tribal tide]

Heres how my fight looked liked so you can see (this is radiant btw you don't need to Dodge everything)

[tribal tide]

We all have our bad habits with charms

[prisma apex]

pv on radiant damn good job

pro player

[native epoch]

see

[tribal tide]

Mine is sharo shadow. Used to be steady body

[tribal tide]

Oh shoot

[tribal tide]

Thanks bro 🥹

[sturdy bloom]

Theres just too many attacks in the game u can just side walk instead of dodge or parry and when I dont have it I just slow walk to death

[tribal tide]

Oh yeah @prisma apex I forgot to mention. Try not to hit his parry otherwise you have to waste a shade dash and might get hit. You can hit him when he's glowing and he parries but it doesn't do damage

And when he focusses stay away and walk between the bursting bubbles so you don't waste a dash too

You can also use up all your soul on spells when he focusses since he won't be moving for like 5seconds something

[prisma apex]

that is a big problem i have i go full crazy because thats how im used to( cuz of my nail focused build) and my slow ass gets absolutely 2 masked like a truck hitting me

[carmine lava]

the focus attack is so long that claiming that you can waste a dash is just wrong

[tribal tide]

When he doest tentacles either double jump (risky) or ddark

[carmine lava]

double jump isn't risky

[prisma apex]

i double jump and try to dash to parry his head

[tribal tide]

Dont wanna accidently get hit while doing radiant

[prisma apex]

if i cant i just ddark or dash away

[tribal tide]

Yeah that's also good

Tell me when you beat him 🥹

[prisma apex]

bro i am NOT doing pv on radiant😭

[prisma apex]

i will

[tribal tide]

I purely did it to prove he isn't top 3 hardest out of spite

[prisma apex]

matter of fact im gonna try him in the hall in a few mins and then try the pantheon

[prisma apex]

damn

[sturdy bloom]

Did i just die to a slight breeze from a backstep?

[worthy peak]

which are top 3?

for me they are second

[prisma apex]

absoulute radiance has to be there

[tribal tide]

Most people think it's absrad
Nkg
Pv

From what I've seen atleast

[prisma apex]

pv and absrad are whats stopping me from beating pantheon of hallownest

[stark marlin]

top 3 of base or radiant?

[prisma apex]

and no eyes

[tribal tide]

For me its
Absrad
Nkg
White defender

[prisma apex]

i hate no eyes

[tribal tide]

Base

[worthy peak]

since when was markoth not on there for top 3 hardest radiants?

[stark marlin]

no eyes huh
may I suggest something

[tribal tide]

Not radianr

Just normal

[prisma apex]

yes?

[worthy peak]

then doing it radiant proves very little?

[stark marlin]

f a c e t a n k her

[tribal tide]

Yeha of course it does

[worthy peak]

cause radiant increases difficulty disproportionately

[tribal tide]

For me once again radiant is just a matter of how fast and complex the boss attacks

[prisma apex]

thats it?

[worthy peak]

so being a relatively easy radiant doesnt prove a relatively easy boss

[carmine lava]

can't really do that for a boss that teleports after like every 5 hits

[tribal tide]

The reason pure essel is as hard as he is cuz he does double damage

[stark marlin]

radiant boosts single dmg bosses more
for example rad SoB are an actual challenge

[tribal tide]

When all bosses are equal he isn't special anymore

[carmine lava]

also very counterproductive for a boss with such an arena

it's really not that hard to dodge her attacks until the very end

[worthy peak]

yes im aware. its also more complicated than that

[queen lodge]

I can atleast get to phase 4 semi consistently

[worthy peak]

artificial difficulty is still difficulty

you cant just take away the things that make a boss hard and then claim they are easy

[tribal tide]

on what

[queen lodge]

But damn is positioning hard on rad

Absrad

[tribal tide]

Brothee I'm so sorry but I do not know what that is

[stark marlin]

essentially you equip qfocus+stalwart+grubsong+elegy+weaversong
and try not to get double hit by the thing and the spikes right after (optional)
you should have a ton of soul even if you don't hit a lot
and anytime you want, stand on some platform and heal
if it's interrupted, heal again, until you recover

[upbeat basin]

pure vessel is like one of the eaiser boss to rad

[tribal tide]

Deffo

[queen lodge]

That's like taking away absrads orbs or nail circle in phase 4

[worthy peak]

a misspelling but basically its when difficulty comes from stat increases rather than interesting patterns i think

[tribal tide]

Ohh

[worthy peak]

More complex than that. All difficulty is in some way artificial

but thats the main idea im pretty sure

[tribal tide]

Yeah radiant is kinda bs tbh

[stark marlin]

what's wrong with nail circle
don't people like you simply ddark and claim it's easy?

[sturdy bloom]

Dawg

A fucking downed animation shoukd NOT damage you

[tribal tide]

They make every boss seem way closer then they actually are

[tribal tide]

THAT'S WHAT IK SAYING

[queen lodge]

Specially in phase 4 depending on positioning

[sturdy bloom]

So fucking dumb

[carmine lava]

someone with your name has no right to clown on ddark lol

[tribal tide]

I DIED TO THAT LIKE 3 TIMES WHILE DOING RADPV

[stark marlin]

phase 4 of 6? plats?

[tribal tide]

😭😭😭

[upbeat basin]

nail circle is easy, but that annoying laser thing is bs

[sturdy bloom]

Its so dumb

[queen lodge]

Phase 4 of 6

[stark marlin]

why exactly

[worthy peak]

yeah nail circle sucks in plats. Try facedancing and shriek stalling :D (dont actually for to much risk for the reward)

[stark marlin]

laser wall or sun dance?

[sturdy bloom]

Literally would've had him by now but half his downed animations hit me

[upbeat basin]

sun dance, and it going to the final phase

[queen lodge]

Brother I'm already doing rad i am NOT doing that lol

[tribal tide]

Gotta learn the spacing man

[upbeat basin]

you have no time to reacte

[sturdy bloom]

If anything should do 1 damn heart

[queen lodge]

Keep distance

[stark marlin]

oh climb? climb is the worst
it's why I call her absrng

[sturdy bloom]

I dont wanna give the pussy space

[queen lodge]

And did you practice him in hog?

[tribal tide]

Lowkey with absrad I just shriek spammed

[sturdy bloom]

He suffocates me ill suffocate him

[tribal tide]

Not like that

[sturdy bloom]

Doing rn

[stark marlin]

I could never

[queen lodge]

Yeah i try that but then i don't have soul for emergency ddark

[upbeat basin]

i can do it easily if they removed that part, i only have 4 bosses im stuck on doing em rad

[tribal tide]

I don't know te methofs 😭

[queen lodge]

Who?

[stark marlin]

oh you're a person who does rad hog
in other words, a hog radder

[carmine lava]

there are much better reasons to call absrad rng than climb lol

[upbeat basin]

markoth and radiance, but also that boss from the 2nd teir of colo and the dream boss that turns into a ball

[tribal tide]

Which

[stark marlin]

my method is preserve soul and heal a lot, as absrad gives a ton of opportunities
no idea how I'd approach radiant, probably by throwing myself out the window

[sturdy bloom]

Balright I aint know tendrils was moving like that 😭 full screened my ahh

[tribal tide]

Oblobbles?

[stark marlin]

the other reason I can think of is orbs

[upbeat basin]

yuh these guys

hate em

[tribal tide]

Yo I lowkey never heal in PV or absrad

[tribal tide]

WHY DOES EVERYONE FIND THEM SO HARD

they were so ez for me

[stark marlin]

ice is a rad guy

[tribal tide]

I just went left right n shii

[tribal tide]

I'm talking bout rad

[upbeat basin]

i just quit trying after a while

[stark marlin]

no way rad oblobbles are easy
they aren't supposed to be

[young lake]

i'm GOOD

[queen lodge]

Ah yeah radkoth is a pain i recommend narts for him
marmu: i would use mop elegy
oblobbles: put both them opposite of you near ground to dodge easier and spell spam
absrad: idk

[tribal tide]

The power of spacual awareness

[upbeat basin]

i did zote, pv and NKG in less than and hour then these guys show up

i never use spells

[sturdy bloom]

If pv in corner what do I do when he hits that combo
Dodge through = hit
Jump= hit

[queen lodge]

Oof

[upbeat basin]

idk why, sometimes i use ddark but i forget to use em 90% of the fight

[queen lodge]

Try and keep distance on pv don't play to aggressively mop helps a ton

[stark marlin]

I don't have reaction time for that...
it's like sword crown of absrad but repeated many times over and over and more dense

[upbeat basin]

ddark and DONT go to the corner

[storm flax]

YAY

[tribal tide]

Yeah with crown I just go left right

[stark marlin]

what you installing

[sturdy bloom]

I always get hit out of it tho

Oh nvm im thinking of shriek

[storm flax]

what

[tribal tide]

Since the balls always fill the gaps I go into the gaps and quick drop oblobbles with shriek

[upbeat basin]

nuh just thorw yourself into pv until you win, thats how i did it and its hella fun

[queen lodge]

Why are you using shriek on pv

[tribal tide]

I just stay straight under them and go a bit to the left then back

[queen lodge]

For rad? No

[stark marlin]

yay stands for yet another yogurt

[knotty ravine]

Shrieking pv on pillars and focus ig

[upbeat basin]

yes for rad, i speedran that thing

[sturdy bloom]

I dont i was just thinking of it

[upbeat basin]

he cant kill me if i dont kill him first

[queen lodge]

Eh i guess u could during floor nail

[sturdy bloom]

Is nkg pvs lil bro they the only ones with that floor attack

[upbeat basin]

after my ||beast|| crest playthorw i might go back on doing the rest of the bosses

[queen lodge]

Hey spoilers

Gotta tag that

[honest shale]

#sk-discussion

[upbeat basin]

wow yall really dont like the other game...

[stark marlin]

they just looked at thk said "cool design" and remade it in tmg/nkg
then they looked at those said "very cool design" and mixed it with thk to make pv

[queen lodge]

Well tbf he's not talking about ss he's talking about doing hk after a certain ss thing

[queen lodge]

No i do i personally love it

[upbeat basin]

go back to sleep or ill use carefree melody

[carmine lava]

doesn't really justify it

[queen lodge]

Eh ig

[carmine lava]

after i fight the TRUE FINAL BOSS IN SILKSONG i will do this random thing in hk

[molten yoke]

Hai sp!!!

[tribal tide]

I just haven't played yet

[honest shale]

i just woke up

[stark marlin]

how do you even handle stuff that touches on both games
what, all banned within the server?

[queen lodge]

But i feel like if its not an actual discussion about ss and just a thing like that a spoiler tag is fine but idk

[upbeat basin]

too bad -_-

[stark marlin]

Hi

[honest shale]

no

[carmine lava]

what do you mean

[honest shale]

bye

[upbeat basin]

nuh mb i didnt tag it

[upbeat basin]

hey i do have a question

[queen lodge]

Like if sm1 where to compare bosses maybe but spoiler tagged the ss bosses

[stark marlin]

like how should the rules be on such messages
if you want to for example communicate some relation between the two, it's not fitting in either channel?

[hollow nova]

#hk-general allows talk for both games

[carmine lava]

#hk-general

[honest shale]

i said bye im leaving

[queen lodge]

Yeah ig

[hollow nova]

#hk-lore allows spoiler tagged Silksong stuff if its relevant idk about this channel

[queen lodge]

Idk man

[upbeat basin]

nvm just go

[honest shale]

no

[stark marlin]

ooh okay
so "have a message that mentions both games? go to hell on earth"
good I get it

[hollow nova]

TRUE

[upbeat basin]

so you staying :>

[carmine lava]

i have no problem with hk spoilers in #sk-discussion though

simply play hk before ss

[honest shale]

no :)

[queen lodge]

Well yeah that's different

I feel like playing ss before base hk is just weird

[upbeat basin]

i knew i should have killed your father

[honest shale]

…

without getting too personal thats not exactly possible

[carmine lava]

i watched a playthrough of someone that played hk after ss and they said that gruz mother is just like a boss in ss and that genuinely hurt me

[upbeat basin]

im talkin in hollow knight, you have grimthy pic....

[queen lodge]

....WHO?

[upbeat basin]

that took a turn

[stark marlin]

which terraria class do u like the most

[upbeat basin]

dont have a main yet im kinda new

[carmine lava]

https://youtu.be/z46cVSWZcSQ?si=zfst6XCJD41s-r9c

[honest shale]

and i was supposed to know this how?

[upbeat basin]

using melee for the worthy seed rn tho

[queen lodge]

I meant which boss lol

[carmine lava]

idk i don't remember ss boss names

[queen lodge]

Ah

[upbeat basin]

why on earth you think i want to kill your real father...

[stark marlin]

"I'm kinda new" and "for the worthy seed" in the span of 2 messages
crazy dedication

[subtle glacier]

was the video good at least

[stark marlin]

lays

[carmine lava]

other than the parts where they say hk is just like ss yes

[upbeat basin]

beated the game once in every diff, so normaly the next step is legendry def

[subtle glacier]

huge i will watch tonight

[honest shale]

take this to dms

[upbeat basin]

also im 30h in and im still pre skeletron so that says smth

[stark marlin]

oh so not that new
I've beat the game 3 times now and I don't consider myself new

[subtle glacier]

i’m bad at terraria

[tribal tide]

I'm bad at geometry dash

[subtle glacier]

yo me too kinda

[upbeat basin]

same

[carmine lava]

same

[stark marlin]

in skill or knowledge?

[subtle glacier]

i could never finish the official demon levels

[tribal tide]

My hardest is b 💔💔

I don't even got a hard demon bro 😔

[upbeat basin]

oh no i cloud not beat a inase level

[honest shale]

i still havent beaten stereo madness

[carmine lava]

B sucked

[tribal tide]

😭

[tribal tide]

B was tuff

Took like 1 - 2k atts tho

[upbeat basin]

every terrarian knowledge comes from the wiki

[stark marlin]

I have once on my friends phone
it convinced me gdash is not for me

[tribal tide]

I really liked the level

[subtle glacier]

i have the knowledge but like i thought classic difficulty or normal or whatever it’s called was the intended experience for so long that i never got good at any fights

i beat expert mode like twice? idk

[upbeat basin]

guys i think i just thought of a thoery that makes zote relate to the knight

[wicked kiln]

B is ass

[stark marlin]

knowledge is key
just make the damn super optimal build and arena and stuff and master is a piece of cake

[tribal tide]

Cap bro why

[tribal tide]

Tf tell us

[wicked kiln]

Its just boring ugly bad gameplay

[tribal tide]

CAPP

[wicked kiln]

Its just overrated asf and ahh

[stark marlin]

what does it mean

[wicked kiln]

Cap

[subtle glacier]

i enjoy the game a lot and love doing simple little challenge runs but i just wouldn’t say im good for how long i’ve played it

[stark marlin]

and from discord

[carmine lava]

i don't like B because the ending felt too hard

[tribal tide]

the wave part was the hardest yeah

The spider lowkey just spammed

[carmine lava]

no the cube

[tribal tide]

The cubs you just had to time your orbs br

[stark marlin]

I have 600 damn hours, skill of a 60 hour person maybe, and knowledge of above average but not an expert too

[upbeat basin]

so what if zote didnt get the void,the root, and the pale genes
the pale king made so many kids that one of them had to be the perfect vessel, but with that logic one of them had to be the unperfect most stupid weak vessel. and thats zote

[tribal tide]

Whats y'all hardest

[carmine lava]

the wave you just have to click at the right spots it's not that hard

[stark marlin]

what. does it mean

[wicked kiln]

Im trying to get an insane demon ive only beaten an easy demon an medium demon as my first level and 2 hard demons

[fair minnow]

Slang for lie

[tribal tide]

🥹🥹🥹🥹

[carmine lava]

misty mountains or lost love idk which is harder

[wicked kiln]

Lying

[tribal tide]

Lowkey peak

[carmine lava]

i also have 32-100 on hyper paracosm

[subtle glacier]

brother like hexagon force idk

i actually am not good at that game

[upbeat basin]

after all you need soul of wyrm. soul of root, void of heart to be chosen
zote just failed in all

[tribal tide]

NICEE

[tribal tide]

😭

[wicked kiln]

I cant find a level on my skill ceilling so i did nine circles is my hardest rn

Took 1000 att

[tribal tide]

I'm tryna do cataclysm for no reason btw

[upbeat basin]

the level you first time use the ball at?

[wicked kiln]

Levels so bad😭

[carmine lava]

that's cycles

[tribal tide]

I know

[stark marlin]

I don't like gdash
your skill is determined by what levels you can beat and not how well

[upbeat basin]

well its the one i got stuck on

[fair minnow]

Level with the duals

[tribal tide]

It's cheeks gameplay

[subtle glacier]

the one where you have two blocks/balls/waves

[storm flax]

Haii

[subtle glacier]

like one on the top and one on the bottom

[carmine lava]

what does that even mean

[tribal tide]

Dual

[molten yoke]

Hruuuu?

[fair minnow]

Platformer is pretty fun

[wicked kiln]

No seriously people dont care how many att it took for you to beat a level unless its an crazy low ammount for its skill ceilling and its considered good

[stark marlin]

for example trackmania
you can actually compete with others within 1 level, by seeing who can complete it faster
and in gdash the competition is moved to a different plane

[storm flax]

Rlly rlly tired

[carmine lava]

you hardest doesn't determine your skill

[storm flax]

it’s 6am

[molten yoke]

Valid. Go take a nap then

[tribal tide]

Yeah

[storm flax]

I will in 45 mins

[subtle glacier]

gd isn’t a speed game so that makes a difference

[carmine lava]

my friend jump to prismatic haze from a medium demon which is bloodbath difficulty and yet i'm better than them despite only having beaten entry extremes

[upbeat basin]

we like knowledge games that test your memory and knowledge, like hollow knight tests how good you can remember the map and with that knowledge you get better

[molten yoke]

Good good. I’ll say this early, hale a good sleep!!

[tribal tide]

Like your hardest can be NC but you can still be better then people who beat extremes

[stark marlin]

ofc there are gdash-like tmania maps that are hard to complete at all, but most of the time the challenge is in completing it better than the others (as faster)

[wicked kiln]

I think thats a drag

[carmine lava]

i guess technically but if your actual hardest is nc, like no runs on crazy hard levels or challenges or anything, then definitely not lol

it doesn't extend that far

[tribal tide]

Yeha at least runs but not a full on level

[wicked kiln]

I can do quantum processsing in good chunks does that count

[carmine lava]

you can complete something "faster" by fluking it but flukes are just luck based and rarely skill based

[upbeat basin]

idk just clicking the space bar was not good gameplay for me

[tribal tide]

Like 30 - 100 on acu type runs

[storm flax]

tyy

[stark marlin]

in gdash you mean?

[molten yoke]

Ywww

[carmine lava]

not unless it's like 50% of the level or something

[carmine lava]

yes

[wicked kiln]

Gulp

Ohh i got heartbeat in 4 runs

[upbeat basin]

i did orbit once with practices, took me 15min

expect the ending part ofc

im aint doin that

[carmine lava]

you didn't do any of that lol

[tribal tide]

I can do ts2 1% which is a 100 times harder them bloodbath so does that make me better then people who have bloodbath as their hardest 🤔

jkjkjk

[upbeat basin]

yes i did

you can glitch though some stuff if you spam enough

[tribal tide]

What is orbits place on the list

[wicked kiln]

I hate people who say "2% on ts2 is harder than all of bloodbath" no tf its not😭

[tribal tide]

IKR

[wicked kiln]

5 but zoink think its like 12

[upbeat basin]

oh no not orbit

[carmine lava]

sure

[upbeat basin]

now i remberd orbit

[wicked kiln]

Im crine

[subtle glacier]

give me a comparison in difficulty to smth in hk

[carmine lava]

not possible

[tribal tide]

Zoink is just goofy bro

[carmine lava]

anyone that claims otherwise is lying

[wicked kiln]

Hk is imo harder than gd

[tribal tide]

Like from gd to hk

[frozen hull]

Scissor Seven PFP

[tribal tide]

Cap

Gd is like lowkey hardest game

[wicked kiln]

No its not

[frozen hull]

Maybe Sharp Shadow isn't that bad

[subtle glacier]

gd is hitless running if you really think about it

[tribal tide]

Yes it is bro

[wicked kiln]

Difficuilty ≠ skill ceilling

[carmine lava]

calling something the hardest game just because it has user created content makes no sense

[hearty monolith]

isnt gd just memorizing when to tap

[wicked kiln]

Thank you

[tribal tide]

No because it barely has a skill ceiling atp

[carmine lava]

too bad then

[tribal tide]

I don't think hk can compare to frame perfects in levels

[carmine lava]

there are no frame perfects in deadlocked

[subtle glacier]

what’s the hardest modded map in hk

[tribal tide]

Not fucking deadlocked 😭😭

[carmine lava]

and there are no frame perfects in regular hk gameplay

[wicked kiln]

???

[subtle glacier]

lm5 looked pretty silly but i’ve only done like impany

[carmine lava]

you can't compare a game with infinite content to a game with infinite content and say that one is definitely harder lol

which is why you need to limit it to base game content

[wicked kiln]

If we only look at the mechanics hk is way harder than gd

[tribal tide]

If we do base game hk is harder

[wicked kiln]

Gd is way simpler

[tribal tide]

But if we do full game gd wins by a landslide

[wicked kiln]

I hate the gd glaze

Its not complex the skill ceilling is juust stupid high

[subtle glacier]

i’m only good at hk so i don’t think i get to disagree

[whole vortex]

lmao

[wicked kiln]

Youre good everyone has a word

[carmine lava]

people call gd complex and yet the same people refuse to hop on platformer mode

[wicked kiln]

Elaborate

[dry creek]

i was never a fan of gd lol,,

[whole vortex]

i like gd but hk is just smth else

[tribal tide]

Like deadlocked is around maybe failed champion difficultyif we try to compare

[carmine lava]

3 > 1

[hearty monolith]

gd is eh for me

[tribal tide]

And thats the hardest level

💀

[wicked kiln]

???

[subtle glacier]

surely that’s not true

[wicked kiln]

Its not

[tribal tide]

Trust

[whole vortex]

idk took me 7 hours to beat deadlocked and 2 for failed champion but idk

[wicked kiln]

Let not even try to compare the games

[tribal tide]

Source is team cherry

[wicked kiln]

Elaborate more😭

You mean inputs?

[carmine lava]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fire-writing-2

[carmine lava]

yes

[quartz cave]

chomppear

[wicked kiln]

Ohhhhhhh yeah true

People iggnore inpits allot of the time

[tribal tide]

Then what would u compare deadlocked too

[whole vortex]

prob nkg tbh

[subtle glacier]

how long is a frame in gd

[tribal tide]

Tbh hk is just easier for me personally

[wicked kiln]

You no joke cant

[carmine lava]

1/240th of a second

[subtle glacier]

buh

[wicked kiln]

On 60fps i rhink 14ms

Or sum

[carmine lava]

when people say frame perfect they pretty much always mean a frame perfect on 60 though

[subtle glacier]

i see

[carmine lava]

but the game's physics always run at 240

[quartz cave]

does that mean that playing on low fps is beneficial

[tribal tide]

Since a level on gd can take me thousands of attempts and on hk just a few minutesto hours

[carmine lava]

no

[tribal tide]

Not atall

[hearty monolith]

wouldnt be easier to miss a frame on low fps

[tribal tide]

Higher fos helps since more. Room to click

[wicked kiln]

Hn

[quartz cave]

lower fps means that each frame lasts longer 👨‍🦲

[tribal tide]

Depends on the fps

[carmine lava]

most of the time a frame perfect on 60 is gonna be 4 or more frames on 240 so you have more time to click

[wicked kiln]

On 120fps you have 2 frames to click so no frame perfect no more

[subtle glacier]

i was asking physics frames

[carmine lava]

plus the input delay is lowered on higher fps and the visuals are just more smooth

[quartz cave]

whatever that means

[tribal tide]

Yeah

[quartz cave]

ill trust u guys you seem knowledgeable

[tribal tide]

Thats why they make 120 fps

[quartz cave]

[tribal tide]

Or 240s

The higher the fps fp the harder

[wicked kiln]

@carmine lava recommend me an insane demon im done with hard demons

[carmine lava]

sure

[subtle glacier]

all the “frame perfect” inputs in hk are considered at 50fps as far as i’ve heard

[tribal tide]

ICDX

what

Supersonic or subsonic or wtv it's called always seemed fun to me

The insane demon

[wicked kiln]

Ew

[carmine lava]

i assume you know the popular ones so i'll recommend the four elements

[tribal tide]

Does hk even have fps (with fps I mean frame perfects)

[wicked kiln]

Avoid wave its my worst gamemode

[proud haven]

MY frame perfect inputs are considered at 100000000000000000000 frames per second and I hit it just super quick and precisely

[wicked kiln]

The names the four elements?

[subtle glacier]

with some skips yeah

[carmine lava]

the only long wave in that level is easy

[carmine lava]

yes

[tribal tide]

Ohh fun

[wicked kiln]

Okkk ill check it out

[carmine lava]

where

[subtle glacier]

the most common one talked about is acn

[carmine lava]

what's that

[tribal tide]

What skip is that

[carmine lava]

surely ifca is frame perfect

[subtle glacier]

dash claw cdash from first room of kedge across bardoon acid

[tribal tide]

Which one is that

[carmine lava]

oh i think i know that one

[hearty monolith]

acne?

[tribal tide]

Ohh

[carmine lava]

is that actually frame perfect or am i just thinking of something else

[carmine lava]

itemless forgotten crossroads acid skip

[tribal tide]

Ahh

[wicked kiln]

Looks cool ill try it next rime i can

[subtle glacier]

it’s a lot more complicated than frames, there are a bunch of moving parts

you do need sticky ceiling idk the frame precision for that

[carmine lava]

oh yeah this is what i was thinking of

can't you just land in the acid and respawn on the right platform?

[subtle glacier]

not at that height

you need wings to hit the hazard respawn

[wicked kiln]

I will forever argue hk is harder than gd mwchanics wise

[carmine lava]

true by default

[subtle glacier]

also instawings are frame perfect i think? but they’re like always optional

[tribal tide]

Gd only has 1 input 💔

[wicked kiln]

Like i am aware of gd mechanics by now very well and besides a symetrical and diffrent gamemodes duals💀 gd isnt complex

[wicked kiln]

Cant foeget gamemodes orbs jumppads reverse mini dual

[carmine lava]

the only reason people call gd hard is because it's so simple honestly

the same reason people call wave the hardest game mode when it's literally the easiest

[tribal tide]

Ts2 this ts2 that

all I hear Nowadays

[wicked kiln]

Its the skill ceilling "oh if x is harder then try beating ts2🤓" by that you know the person is dum

[tribal tide]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[subtle glacier]

i mean there are dumbasses in every game

[wicked kiln]

On everything even tho its my worst gamemode so i feel like i cant say it but its for sure the easiest

[wicked kiln]

Nkg is a dance am i right

[subtle glacier]

“you think that’s hard, just wait until x” is like the fastest way to ragebait any experienced player

like these mfs

what are we doing

[wicked kiln]

Bro pulled messages from BC

💀

[subtle glacier]

i just searched for “if you think hard just wait” and these were the top results

[wicked kiln]

One can be hard while another thing is harder

[tribal tide]

If you think radiance is hard just wait until you see absrad

[wicked kiln]

People forget that

[subtle glacier]

if you think walking is hard just wait until you have to start running

[tribal tide]

LIKE ninjas can't let people not be the fucking best player alive nowadays

like tf 😭😭

[carmine lava]

"if you think the thing you're doing is hard no it isn't because there's something harder"

[wicked kiln]

Weird to see a whole community of people who prolly talked here daily just not being here no more

[tribal tide]

If you think tidal wave is hard just wait until you see ts2

MAN FUCK TS2

AND FUCK YOU TOO

[tribal tide]

Bro found these messages from the ice age

[umbral night]

That's life
You grow out of each other

[wicked kiln]

Thats discord

[tribal tide]

Alright but can we all just agree zote is the hardest boss in the game

[carmine lava]

no

[subtle glacier]

team cherry is

no one has been able to stop them from updating hk

[tribal tide]

🥹

[wicked kiln]

No

[tribal tide]

Eternal ordeal Is quite litteraly impossible

[wicked kiln]

But best sure

[umbral night]

Ew

[tribal tide]

Trust

[subtle glacier]

@knotty ravine what's the hardest user made map in hk to clear

[honest shale]

its eternal

[whole vortex]

P4 next is shells

[honest shale]

its in the name

[tribal tide]

Yes bro

[umbral night]

If you like zote better while pv exists there's something wrong with you

[carmine lava]

pv is boring

[tribal tide]

I always thought it was unternal

[honest shale]

but what a lot of ppl would consider winning is hitting 57

[tribal tide]

Fuck pv

[whole vortex]

i like him

[tribal tide]

Yes

[tribal tide]

yeah

[umbral night]

Nope

[honest shale]

which is very possible

[umbral night]

Disagree

[carmine lava]

they don't have much replayability though

[tribal tide]

Enternal is pretty fun

[lapis cypress]

A room in kingdoms edge won’t load for me

[native epoch]

guys i lost my ability to do the climb nonchalantly since then

[lapis cypress]

It’s just completely black

[native epoch]

im cooked

[whole vortex]

ye but i like the boss fight

whatever i gotta do bindings

[honest shale]

unless you’re suscat

[umbral night]

Every boss is boring once you get used to their patterns then

[subtle glacier]

did you pirate the game?

[tribal tide]

Cap

Hornet always peak

[lapis cypress]

No, I’m playing on PlayStation

[tribal tide]

and mantis lords

[subtle glacier]

do you have a screenshot/recording

of the room not loading

[umbral night]

How does that work
Don't they have telegraphed attacks

[tribal tide]

Yes

But they are still fun

[lapis cypress]

I’m going there in game just give me a sec

[tribal tide]

Pure vessel is like trying to create a hard boss but failing

[honest shale]

you have just played too much pv

[carmine lava]

you mean nkg

[tribal tide]

Cap bro

Only like 4 hours

[carmine lava]

nkg is such a failure that you can heal between like every single one of his attacks

[tribal tide]

I haven't played nkg in a while so idk

[umbral night]

That opinion is just wrong

[tribal tide]

I forgot how to play him

[tribal tide]

No

[honest shale]

unless you’re a dumbass

[tribal tide]

Yeah j remember that being true

[honest shale]

like half the ppl who play this game

[tribal tide]

Genuinelt buff nkg

[carmine lava]

i mean it probably requires good positioning and timing but the fact that you can do it at all says something

[subtle glacier]

nkg and pv are both hard they're just very obviously consistent so you can improve fast

[tribal tide]

Bro theres like an eon of time between his attacks

[tribal tide]

Lowkey yes

[honest shale]

only reason i say this is bcs im one of said dumbasses

[lapis cypress]

Actually never mind, the room seems to have loaded now

[tribal tide]

They are hard but they becomes easy very quickly

[honest shale]

and thats probably intentional

[tribal tide]

And then there's absrad

Who is well

Absrad

[subtle glacier]

most of the fights that people on their first playthroughs are loving are those sorts of fights

[tribal tide]

You are either good at absrad or you arent

[honest shale]

harder to learn

[subtle glacier]

big telegraphs, consistent patterns, simple dodges, but attacks come out sorta quickly

[tribal tide]

I just shriek spammed bro

I dont know the methods

[honest shale]

…yeah thats kinda how being good works

[tribal tide]

Sisters of battle

[silk robin]

guys remember

[tribal tide]

SISTERS OF BATTLE

[silk robin]

when this icon pops up, never leave the game

[tribal tide]

Maybe bro

I illiterate

Me no hablo ingles

[umbral night]

What icon

Hive knight?

[subtle glacier]

absrad is harder just bc attacks can overlap

that never happens in nkg, and only in one scenario in pv

[tribal tide]

Absrad also just has aimbot

[honest shale]

dumb of ass

[jade anchor]

WHAT is wrong with oyu poeple

[honest shale]

do not ask

[torn geyser]

you can have medium skill with absrad

[subtle glacier]

hk addiction

[umbral night]

??

[torn geyser]

I kinda do
I wouldn’t say I’m good good with absrad, but I’ve beat it radiant

[tribal tide]

How many hours you got

[umbral night]

😂
I'm so confused

[subtle glacier]

i forget one sec

[tribal tide]

Then your good bro trust me

[honest shale]

hitting his parry during focus
which is your own fault

[honest shale]

bro

[jade anchor]

why do OYU have a BAER on YOUR PFP

[torn geyser]

well others can consistently beat it all bindings

[tribal tide]

Like 0.1% of players

[tribal tide]

CHILLLLLLL

[umbral night]

Yeah I'm listening

[vale condor]

Damn
No-lifer

[tribal tide]

I don't think hk an addiction anymore it's just your life

[subtle glacier]

true

[tribal tide]

I got like 220

[umbral night]

Wrong tag

[subtle glacier]

i mean im really good at other things too

just not many things

[vale condor]

what do you even do in this game for 1700 hours like gosh, it has like 50 hours of content tops

[umbral night]

Speedrun

[tribal tide]

I'm good at hollow knight
Lumafly and scarab ahh

[subtle glacier]

python you should try speedrunning sometime

[honest shale]

less then i expected tbh

[tribal tide]

Whats your best run

[subtle glacier]

of what?

[tribal tide]

Normal ending

[subtle glacier]

couple of seconds over 39 minutes

[honest shale]

diesnt clarify much

[subtle glacier]

not very good but i don't run any% very loyally

[umbral night]

Movement in every room would take some time to remember
Makes sense that would take a long time

[tribal tide]

DAMN NICE

[vale condor]

That sounds stupid

I have already beaten the game, putting more time into it would only make me overall slower cause I took more time

[subtle glacier]

my bad you're right

[honest shale]

there are many runs that end with beating thk

[subtle glacier]

you could do other things like play unrailed 2

[tribal tide]

Bro my best run is 2 hour 40 cuz I'm actually shit at speedrun

[honest shale]

most notably ASS

[umbral night]

Indeed

[subtle glacier]

ASS doesn't end at thk

[silk robin]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-new-here-say-hi-discord-im-new-here-say-hi-im-new-here-say-hi-discord-new-member-discord-new-gif-8065649195492145845

[vale condor]

TRUE

[honest shale]

am i dumb

[carmine lava]

make another steam account so your hours reset to 0

[umbral night]

Ass ends when you get the last stag

[torn geyser]

I wouldn’t say I’m good with a fight until I’m somewhat consistently able to 0-2 hit them on average

For example, I am good at nkg

[vale condor]

Btw is this good for first playthrough

[tribal tide]

Ass means all stag stations I'm assuming

[subtle glacier]

most meme categories/category extensions end when the condition has been satisfied

[umbral night]

I'm dumb as well cuz i agreed

[umbral night]

Yep

[tribal tide]

WOAHHHHHHH

[tribal tide]

ohh okay makes sense

[honest shale]

so i am dumb

[umbral night]

😂😂
The irony

[subtle glacier]

mhm, all full game categories on speedrun.com end with credits, there are individual level runs on the main src as well but cat extensions usually have a unique win condition

dream nail all 1 essence ghosts, for example

[tribal tide]

Uhh yes ig bro

1000 hours on green path to mantis claw

200 hours on shade skip to blue lake

And 2300 on the rest

[vale condor]

I just realized that I dont even have a 112% file to show cause I dont keep savefiles much

[honest shale]

i should run ghostbusters sometime

[umbral night]

Wrong
Keep pc open and sleep
That's how i got some of mine

[carmine lava]

i could never delete my first file

[subtle glacier]

i have like a 12h godseeker save for the occasional r04 and that's it 😭

[vale condor]

This part of casual playthrough took the longest

[umbral night]

I played till i got tired then i fell asleep
The next day 8 hours were added into my playtime lmao

[subtle glacier]

oh yeah btw the clip i sent earlier as an example of a frame perfect trick in hollow knight was recorded by this guy

[tribal tide]

Yes ik I'm so good

[subtle glacier]

python your gori savestate thread is getting so much mileage

[tribal tide]

totally me guys thank you thank you

[silk robin]

why is garnet british

[carmine lava]

who is garnet

[subtle glacier]

garnet like the gemstone

[umbral night]

Gardening hornet

[silk robin]

exactly

[quartz cave]

we are the crystal gems 🗣️

[subtle glacier]

is this some steven universe shit

[vale condor]

I am glad

[quartz cave]

unfortunately so

my 13 year old self was obsessed with SU

[subtle glacier]

nice, ive heard good things

[torn geyser]

no an ass speedrun is actually how fast you can reach ass (flukemarm)
-# ass as in bad obviously

[quartz cave]

and it left an imprint thats too hard to erase and that i am ashamed off

[torn geyser]

/j

[tribal tide]

Also guys make a list of all versions of PV, nkg and absrad and list them from easiest to hardest (bottom to top) (with versions I mean attuned ascended radiant)

[silk robin]

of*

[quartz cave]

true

[umbral night]

I'm not able to open the clip
Maybe cuz my phone doesn't support very hq videos

[tribal tide]

😭 IG

[quartz cave]

i should sleep early today actually

[subtle glacier]

its not playing for me on pc either

[vale condor]

will this work

[subtle glacier]

discord fate

[silk robin]

guys whos harder
massive moss charger
Radiant Absrad

[quartz cave]

i think ive slept < 10 hrs in the past 3 days

gn gng ✌️

[tribal tide]

Mossy tf is this obvious ahh ququestion

[umbral night]

That's fire

[umbral night]

Gn

[honest shale]

man i remember doing this
such a memorable part if my casual playthrough

[subtle glacier]

python what are like a top 3 hardest skips you've done

[umbral night]

I dream of the day I'm gonna do it in my casual playthrough

[subtle glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-interested-reaction-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-7680403406854090699

[silk robin]

guys why is uumuu actually harder than rad rn

[tribal tide]

And that's for ME

Like with my play style and skill

[umbral night]

I'll write mine when i get to them

[tribal tide]

Uumuu is light idk what you mean bruzzilla

[subtle glacier]

for me i think
rad absrad
asc absrad
rad pv
rad nkg
att absrad
asc pv
asc nkg
att pv
att nkg

[silk robin]

bro I died on her p5

[subtle glacier]

but like pv and nkg are the same roughly

[fair minnow]

It's the one that took me the longest to radiant so far since i'm ass

[tribal tide]

Fair list I can see that

[honest shale]

rad absrad
asc absrad
att absrad
rad nkg
asc nkg
rad pv
att nkg
asc pv
att pv

i play too much pure vessel

[tribal tide]

Is absrad really that hard 😔

[subtle glacier]

absrad is a hard boss

[tribal tide]

Yo I cang lie I would put attuned absrad above rad PV too tho

[silk robin]

Rad Absrad
Rad NKG
Ascended Absrad
Rad PV
Ascended NKG
Absrad
NKG
Ascended PV
PV

[tribal tide]

Yes deffo

[honest shale]

no its just pv and nkg are piss easy

[tribal tide]

We basically have the same list

[silk robin]

just gotta switch rad pv placement 👀

[autumn ice]

rad nkg over asc absrad is a take certainly

[queen lodge]

I'm starting to lose it again

I get the worse rng on phase 4 i think i need help

[umbral night]

I was trying to hit soul tyrant optimally on radiant , which I've not done yet
How to do that chat
In phase 2 i find it difficult to hit him while he's floating
Phase 1 is easy

[tribal tide]

Rad absrad
Ascended absrad
Rad nkg
Absrad
Rad pv
Ascended nkg
Ascended pv
Nkg
Pv

[silk robin]

how did I die on uumuu p5

[tribal tide]

New one

[carmine lava]

there comes a point where an opinion is just wrong

[vale condor]

(This is purely subjective to me and not me ranking skips I've done in an objective way):
Top few, unordered:

• Mag isma without dashmaster - harder than with dashmaster tho it took me less time to go from yes to no dashmaster than it did to get it with dashmaster for the first time

• Itemless Peak Conveyor Grub - idk I struggled for so long on that one

• ibaldur - I've done it before Chinese runners found the current strat which added to difficulty, took a while, but it is not complicated skip per say, more of a mechanics check

• no vertical shade skip into cliffs - that one took me a while, and I still don't know what I am doing wrong but I got it so thats what matters or smth

[queen lodge]

Damn

[subtle glacier]

its just fulljump upslash, dash slash behind you and then pray you don't get fucked by bad rng

[honest shale]

like art is objective

[autumn ice]

i dont want to go so far as to call the opinion wrong because i am simply too far away from nkg being in any way challenging that i cant really have a good perspective on it

[tribal tide]

Yeah this one is more my opinion then the last one

[umbral night]

I see
Thank you

[autumn ice]

but uh it definitely is a dubious amount of nkg difficulty glaze

[subtle glacier]

it looks a lot flashier and more difficult than it is

i bleieve inyou

[queen lodge]

Nkg is hard but he's easy if you know his patterns and choreography

[autumn ice]

hard to learn easy to master yes

[tribal tide]

I lowkey forgot nkg that's eht he's so high

[queen lodge]

Exactly

[tribal tide]

I haven't run nkg in ages

[umbral night]

In peak conveyor i got to the right bottom area but found it too high to get to without claw
And shade doesn't spawn there
How to do it?

[worthy peak]

let me include more versions
rad nkg
rad pv
asc pv
asc nkg
att pv
rad absrad
att nkg
asc absrad
attuned absead

[tribal tide]

Same for pv

[tribal tide]

😭

Peak list bro

[queen lodge]

Saying rad absrad is easier than att pv is wild

[umbral night]

Give me a moment
I have a clip of what I'm talking about

[worthy peak]

for me specifically

[queen lodge]

Crazy

[subtle glacier]

bro there's a "Multiple people are typing..." AND a "Several people are typing..." like did we need this feature

[tribal tide]

He made a statement so GOOD that even his gang PRAISED him

[queen lodge]

Teach me you're ways please rad absrad is whooping me rn

[carmine lava]

wait what

[subtle glacier]

everyone type rq

[worthy peak]

yes :D... what does that mean

[tribal tide]

several people are typing...

[subtle glacier]

did you see it

[worthy peak]

no :(

[carmine lava]

i only see several

[queen lodge]

Only the several

[silk robin]

I kirkkenually hate uummuu

[tribal tide]

We did otherwise it would flood in big servers

[queen lodge]

Pro tip remember shade soul exsists

[tribal tide]

I saw multiple too

[fair minnow]

Same

[subtle glacier]

maybe if i go to skdisc i can get a screenshot of multiple

[carmine lava]

gaslighting imo

[umbral night]

This was in a rando chat. How to get to that next set of spikes.

[tribal tide]

Multiple is real I is saw it 😭😭

I have seen it many times before

[subtle glacier]

i just saw it for the first time just now

[tribal tide]

Damn

I barely see several tbh

[umbral night]

That's fire

Thanks

[queen lodge]

I think rad absrad might be my least favorite fight

[tribal tide]

Multiple people again

[silk robin]

uumuu worse than markoth?

[queen lodge]

No

[worthy peak]

:(

[tribal tide]

Pretty sure multiple is 3 people typing

[worthy peak]

definitely not

[tribal tide]

Not even close

Uumuu is easy

Shade soul

[queen lodge]

Like yeah beating her is gonna be great and stuff but she's just not fun

[worthy peak]

Well actually depends how you are measuring it difficulty or fun

[queen lodge]

Like nkg can be fun

So can pv

[hallow solar]

Time to try radoro again

[worthy peak]

funwise it depends on uumuu and markoth version

[hallow solar]

hate that boss

[silk robin]

I hate uumuu but you don't see me complaining

[tribal tide]

Rad markoth not fun 😔

[umbral night]

Hate that name

[queen lodge]

Uumuu is not that bad bro use shade soul

[hallow solar]

what name do you prefer

[umbral night]

Idk😂
But not that

[queen lodge]

Yeah he sucks too

[hallow solar]

Radiant Oro and mato worse than radkoth

[tribal tide]

YK WHO IS FUN??

[silk robin]

shut up already

[queen lodge]

No

[hallow solar]

Worse doesn’t mean harder just more agonizing

[queen lodge]

What?

Its a genuine tip

[worthy peak]

rad nail only absrad

[tribal tide]

attuned Lord of shades 😊 (low cortisol boss)

[queen lodge]

Mods don't count

[hallow solar]

radiant lord of shades even lower cortisol

[tribal tide]

Yes

[hallow solar]

That’s an oxymoron

[tribal tide]

How do you compare Lord of Shadow's to absrad

[silk robin]

You think I don't know?

[tribal tide]

Which one is harder

[hallow solar]

Radiant lord of darkness

[tribal tide]

And by how much

[silk robin]

Just flexing atp

[hallow solar]

Never fought either 😭

[queen lodge]

So you have been using it?

[umbral night]

Radiant anyrad 3.0
There i said it

[silk robin]

YES

[tribal tide]

Lord of shades is pretty fun

[queen lodge]

Huh

[worthy peak]

nice :)

[honest shale]

bro thinks ts tuff

[silk robin]

How does one fight themselves though

[tribal tide]

Why not

[silk robin]

no rad absrad 💔

[honest shale]

bro thinks ts tuff

[queen lodge]

No i don't

[silk robin]

show yours then

[umbral night]

Why do u have radiant markoth

I thought u were stuck

[tribal tide]

Bro I haven't done ascended rad yet 😔

[tribal tide]

I was too busy with pv

[queen lodge]

Yeah i beat him

[tribal tide]

Should I try ts 🤔

[umbral night]

Nicee

[silk robin]

anything but taking a screenshot atp 💔

[queen lodge]

Thanks man

[silk robin]

not tuff

[honest shale]

thats not fun tho

[tribal tide]

Maybe he don't play on pc

Dumbahh

[queen lodge]

So to the dude who finds rad absrad easy any tips for phase 4?

[tribal tide]

Have y'all ever even tried Lord of shades

[queen lodge]

No

[subtle glacier]

what's phase 4

[silk robin]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-shaw-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-13205433055363544945

[umbral night]

Never seen

[tribal tide]

@worthy peak

[queen lodge]

Plats

[umbral night]

Plats?

Maybe

[subtle glacier]

bottom middle plat is safe

[silk robin]

guys, I feel bad for people who just started the game

[worthy peak]

uhh go through beam walls early

[subtle glacier]

good for getting rid of orbs

[hallow solar]

Anyone got tips for radiant Oro and mato

[tribal tide]

Its a tuff fight trust me

[subtle glacier]

you can shriek four of her spawns from bottom middle

[queen lodge]

I've been told its not and to use top mid

[tribal tide]

Why

[subtle glacier]

top mid is also good

[queen lodge]

That's what i did for my p5

[silk robin]

becuase they don't know lore

[queen lodge]

Is bottom mid better for rad?

[tribal tide]

Bottom mid spam 🥹

[hallow solar]

Anyone got tips for radiant Oro and mato

[worthy peak]

I dont know uhh when they do burst attacks above at platform ddark and go to where the attack last fired before wacking at them loads?

[tribal tide]

You csn lit spam hit and shriek but it's risky for rad

[tribal tide]

😭

"Tf is a absrad"

[worthy peak]

hmm bottom middle is definitely safe

[silk robin]

it's too deep to just go into from the top

[tribal tide]

Grind

[worthy peak]

i prefer top but bottom works

[umbral night]

I've yet to finish p1ab bcuz of them
Keep dying to the bros

Lol

[tribal tide]

Thats what I said 🥹

[queen lodge]

So just bottom mid spam ddark when she's there?

[hallow solar]

P1ab

[tribal tide]

Irl tho

[hallow solar]

Really huh

[worthy peak]

no you odnt spam ddark

[subtle glacier]

top middle is better for damage but bottom middle is better for survival imo

[hallow solar]

I beat that first try without really trying

[silk robin]

grind the rest of your hog and then come to them

[hallow solar]

I don’t do that

[queen lodge]

Ah

[worthy peak]

you use it at teh start of face attacks and when beam wall is nearby

[umbral night]

Don't flex on a newbie bro
You'll achieve nothing

I'm bad ik😂

[queen lodge]

Face attacks? Like nail ring and light beams?

[worthy peak]

and orbs

they are telegraphed by absrad raising her face

though ddark is less necasary for orbs

[tribal tide]

Orbs ❌ Aimbot ✅

[queen lodge]

I hate orbs

[subtle glacier]

i've been stockholmed into liking orbs

[umbral night]

They're pogoable right

[queen lodge]

I also hate the rng from 3 or 4 cause if she's off screen and offscreen spawns them i get rocked

[worthy peak]

when absrad is in bottom centre you can pogo repeatedly and use the cieling then when she teleports doublejump onto top middle for the ability to fall

[silk robin]

jasper

[dim harbor]

Hi

[worthy peak]

I like orbs cause in nail only they are really helpfully for me

[frozen storm]

Finally abandoned the pirate ship

[queen lodge]

I wish she only did 3 and not a chance betweem 3 and 4

[silk robin]

I cant read shit off that screen

[queen lodge]

Nice

[frozen storm]

I wonder why

[silk robin]

don't you know what a screenshot is 💔

[tribal tide]

Mi no hablo espanol

[frozen storm]

Windows shift s or whatever

[umbral night]

Did u uninstall?

[frozen storm]

I bought it

[subtle glacier]

looks that way

[tribal tide]

But that's Portuguese right