hk-discussion

[honest shale]

howling wraiths is allowed on onws

[vagrant grail]

Ah

[honest shale]

and sharpened nail only does 4 more damage

doing 9 instead of 5

[copper spruce]

Hollow Knight

[wispy willow]

true

[vagrant grail]

I might have to go pick up mark of pride before I head to crystal peak to get the crystal heart

[honest shale]

when the shitpost

[wispy willow]

thats the name of the game

[vagrant grail]

Not cus I’d need it outright, but it’ll make the crystal guardian even easier

Cus I’ve heard the fella’s basically a sitting duck

[copper spruce]

Now

[honest shale]

uhh

shit

[honest shale]

hes not even a required kill

[vagrant grail]

Yeah but benches are nice

And free geo’s double nice

[sour flax]

I just realized

in the crystal guardians eyes

[glass abyss]

Why does silksong have bosses that don’t kill you (e.g. Shakra) but not hollow knight (excluding dream bosses)

[sour flax]

were like

an asshole

like imagine having a nice nap

and then some midget starts attacking you

[vagrant grail]

Yeah but bro’s big body self is hogging the only bench around

[sour flax]

and beats you in a fight, and when you run away it comes back like 3 hours later just to slime you ouy

[vernal knot]

He prob only sees a shit ton of blight

[vivid aspen]

Because the only non-infected and still living bosses are ones who, whether by mistake, by their own warrior-like nature, or for other reasons like Hornet's, don't hold back and live in a world of kill or be killed

[naive shadow]

Finally

[wispy sky]

GG

[naive shadow]

Oro and Mato somehow took me the longest

I lucked out with the AbsRad spawns in plat section and beat her in 3 attempts

Markoth somehow just took me 7 minutes

[steady flower]

now do any radiance

3.0

[lapis musk]

ew

[steady flower]

broken nail only no spells no charms

[zinc delta]

we finally alive?

[lapis musk]

hkmain try not to congratulate by making up a random hard challenge

[steady flower]

while simultaniously playing rush E on piano

[foggy sable]

TRUE

[steady flower]

[steady flower]

no

we vessels

we dont die

neither live

[honest shale]

now try rabononnanma popv on steel soul with 50 unkillable primal aspids chasing you

[knotty ravine]

anybad ☹️

[wary hound]

any good*

[steady flower]

[knotty ravine]

how

[wary hound]

cause i like it

[wispy sky]

anyrad is just scary

[knotty ravine]

I will forever think you people r actually just delusional

[wary hound]

YOU PEOPLE?

[knotty ravine]

please play a good boss for once

[steady flower]

wdym you people

im not delusional

[wary hound]

same\

[steady flower]

i dont even know what that means

[trim schooner]

bro.
"if your framerate is low enough, you won’t have the time to heal a full 6 masks."
why is everything framerate dependent. also there is no way this is true

[worn hamlet]

I think the entirety of hkmain is delusional to some extent honestly

how else could we have possibly achieved the heights we've achieved

[wary hound]

im delusional to the extent idek

[vivid aspen]

I'm just of the "I just think this is neat" mindset

[worn hamlet]

like sometimes we take for granted something like radhog as an intermediate accomplishment

when it's literally a hitless gauntlet

with increased hp

[knotty ravine]

it is in fact plural yes

[wary perch]

there is this one room in the pleasure house where i keep dying because i get swarmed by enemies and every time i kill them more spawn

[vivid aspen]

I've never experienced any of the modded hk content because I sadly don't own my own pc 🥲

[knotty ravine]

interacting with modded hk players will make you want to kill fireborn forever

[steady flower]

you are the only delusional here

[wary perch]

need to get the mask shard from there

[knotty ravine]

there is noooo reason for anybad to be this popular. ☹️

[steady flower]

there is

its cool

[wary hound]

i just realised i have been vsing anyrad without THE RIGHT BUILD FUCK

[knotty ravine]

This message is about anybad

[worn hamlet]

bruh delusional isn't a slur lmao

u can't use it as a noun

[steady flower]

i dont even know what delusional means

im dead serious

[steady flower]

any radiance is cool

[knotty ravine]

play a good boss is all I have to say

[steady flower]

any radiance

[vivid aspen]

Usually refers to when someone believes in a perspective, ideal, or reasoning that's more often than not easily proven false with common sense or more

Or at least that's my understanding of it

[fiery trench]

in other words, insane or mental

[worn hamlet]

not necessarily

though it's very common in people who are mentally unstable from what ik

[fiery trench]

if boiled down to a first grader level then maybe
idk I try to avoid using delusional

[vivid aspen]

Or misinformed/uninformed

[subtle glacier]

well it has both colloquial and clinical uses

[fiery trench]

what would the clinical use be?

[worn hamlet]

honestly same

[subtle glacier]

it was coined as a descriptor for a mental health diagnostic tool

[fiery trench]

huh

the more u know ig

[trim schooner]

it is fun

[subtle glacier]

back before people agreed on names for mental conditions, schizophrenia was called delusional disorder a couple times

[worn hamlet]

huh interesting

[subtle glacier]

and then the DSM happened because the only way to make mental illness better is to turn it into an insurance scheme /j

[fiery trench]

that /j is doing a lot of work
not enough to fix the major Western powers but still

[worn hamlet]

lol true

[subtle glacier]

i’m too much of an unc to know my /letters

it would be sarcastic if i knew how to differentiate between serious and sarcastic

[fiery trench]

I forgone the use of /letter and just used :P for sarcasm or contrast

[subtle glacier]

true

[fiery trench]

ok so why does Soul Master's theme on o.75x speed sound so good

[stiff loom]

YES BRO I JUST BEAT NKG FOR THE FIRST TIME

[fiery trench]

now I wanna see Soul Sanctum proper
fortunately that one's piano roll is complete

ok yeah Soul Sanctum proper at 0.75x speed just makes it a slasher theme

[honest shale]

because we cant have nice things

[hallow solar]

i forgot how much i hated seth

i remember him being way better than he actually is

for some reason

[lapis musk]

sk disc?

[smoky matrix]

It has happened with me multiple times.

[rich wedge]

guys I really like ||quirrel|| he stays until endgame and is wjjth us in ||dirtmouth|| right?
He doesn't die right?

[hallow solar]

sk disc is talking about visual novels

[rich wedge]

Idk why I spoilered it

[lapis musk]

no sk discussion here regardless

[fiery trench]

... I'm sorry

[lapis musk]

he dies

[smoky matrix]

Clueless.

[rich wedge]

oh

[fiery trench]

ok being blunt ig

[rich wedge]

can I save him

[smoky matrix]

No.

[hallow solar]

loved when he talked to elderbug

[lapis musk]

based on how they asked the question, they definitely knew

[fiery trench]

only by never getting Monomon

[rich wedge]

Thanks for consoling me 🥹

[smoky matrix]

Oh right, that's true.

[rich wedge]

so I can't beat the game?

[smoky matrix]

I keep forgetting Embrace The Void is a thing.

[smoky matrix]

You can.

[fiery trench]

locked into godhome endings

[young lake]

jay.

[smoky matrix]

Serdna.

Why do we only share one mutual server, Serds?

[fiery trench]

mind u, u still need to fight Uumuu, so ur leaving Quirrel hanging in the Monomon room for all time

[smoky matrix]

Don't you think you should fix that?

[rich wedge]

first it was Myla, then cloth, now quirrel? Can I not have a favourite character without bad stuff happening to them?

[smoky matrix]

Cloth can be saved.

[rich wedge]

Oh well at least I have grub father

[smoky matrix]

Her dying is on you.

[fiery trench]

I mean u can techinically save Cloth
just not keep her with u

[hallow solar]

bro is not ready for silksong

[rich wedge]

Yh but smth still can happen to her if she helps u

[fiery trench]

... so about that...

[smoky matrix]

His fate isn't death.
But it's super fucking funny what happens to him.

[rich wedge]

bri what does this even mean 😔 is everyone gonna die 😔

[smoky matrix]

Which is why you save her in Ancient Basin after you fight Traitor Lord.

[hallow solar]

...

[rich wedge]

Oh nvm I remember

[fiery trench]

well not proper death but can be assumed to either be death or transfiguartion

who knows
grubs r weird

[hallow solar]

its death

[smoky matrix]

I mean, he does become a cocoon for the grubs, yes.

But we don't see him actually die.

[hallow solar]

his stomach probably explodes like gruz mother

[umbral night]

There's a save myla route btw

[fiery trench]

if grubfather is a cocoon, he's more than likely dead
if grubfather transforms, he's fine

[umbral night]

But it's controversial

[hallow solar]

hes a cocoon

[rich wedge]

all his children get eaten by him so they can metamorphasise and turn into grubberflies or grub cool kids and he's gonna have to vomit then all out 😔😔

poor guy

[hallow solar]

belly explodes and the grubs eat him

[rich wedge]

Oh.

[hallow solar]

its realistic

just a theory

[fiery trench]

again, who knows
I mean humans are capable of releasing things much bigger than the hole it leaves

[rich wedge]

well I guess

[hallow solar]

but knowing real world bug reproduction its likely

[rich wedge]

yeah but he's a dude

[fiery trench]

or ejected the other way
that's just as likely

[fiery trench]

an ass is an ass

[rich wedge]

I think something like that happens in a silksiong route right?

[umbral night]

This turned weird rq

[rich wedge]

I wwws going for mouth but ok 🥹

[rich wedge]

but worse 😔

[hallow solar]

in a specific silksong quest if you dont do it fast enough a certain character is eaten by her children

[rich wedge]

For him 😔

[smoky matrix]

And she's gone.
@young lake imho.

[rich wedge]

Oh cuz she needs u to get her food?

[hallow solar]

yea

if you dont get her food she becomes the food

[young lake]

people dont like me enough to have me in subservers

[fiery trench]

moving on to avoid further discussion about fictional bug metamorphosis behaviors and their possible relations to human anatomy

[young lake]

sorry for PING

[smoky matrix]

Oh lord.

Wrong reply.

[fiery trench]

and yet they still take the food anyways
greedy bastards

[smoky matrix]

Oh lord.

[hallow solar]

hungry kids

[young lake]

umm and im not in many other servers

[smoky matrix]

Surely you've got a subserver with the goats Mage and Floggy.
And I guess Chmip is also there.

[young lake]

mages personal server

[smoky matrix]

Aw.

[young lake]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky matrix]

Hmm.

@unborn crag

Nerd.

[hallow solar]

if you were just born and you see a giant creature that looks really tasty right infront of you, what you doing?

[young lake]

• im not really interested in joining subservers ngl ,,??? i mean it always just does depend on the people

[smoky matrix]

Yeah, that's fair.

[young lake]

people dont like me and i dont like people so

[smoky matrix]

Depends.
Do I have teeth?

[fiery trench]

as a bug, consumption
as myself, walking away

[smoky matrix]

That's also fair.

[hallow solar]

as myself, consumption

as a hungry baby

ill take what i can get

[fiery trench]

I just dont feel like fighting something labeled as giant
I'm losing that fight lol

[rich wedge]

Ah, you must be the Knight then.

[fiery trench]

if it stay still and accepts death then sure
but the moment it reacts I'm flashstepping away

[fiery trench]

sk related discussion that was related to a previous topic not worth resuscitating

[rich wedge]

Am I right?

[fiery trench]

was that a Hungry Knight reference?

[queen lodge]

Anyone know how much damage strength and elegy does?

[rich wedge]

Yup

[rich wedge]

🥹

[stiff loom]

My streak against nkg now 153-1

[fiery trench]

https://tenor.com/view/saltydkdan-pokemon-friendlocke-altaria-gif-11903273788130175404

[jaunty dune]

Regular or radiant

[stiff loom]

regular

[hallow solar]

50% of nail damage without strength, 77.5% with strength

roughly

[queen lodge]

So how much is that with pure?

[hallow solar]

either 16 or 17

[smoky matrix]

11 without, 16 with.

[hallow solar]

dont know if hk rounds up or down

[queen lodge]

Damn

And rad markoth has 1.2k health right?

[fiery trench]

I think its to the nearest even number
idk I just know sk rounding does this

[sour flax]

how much does unbreakable strength cost

and how many notches

[fiery trench]

15000

[smoky matrix]

15k.

[fiery trench]

3 notches

[sour flax]

DAMN

[sour flax]

DAMN²

[hallow solar]

950 says the wiki

[fiery trench]

still better than greed

[queen lodge]

So that's.... a lot of hits yay

[unborn crag]

im no nerd

[queen lodge]

And phase 2 is at half correct?

[fiery trench]

yet

[hallow solar]

yes

[sour flax]

unbreakable strength is 25% nail dmg increase right

[queen lodge]

This is gonna suck

I hate this boss so much

[fiery trench]

why I'm so glad I never have to do that fight radiant again
3 was enough

[queen lodge]

You beat rad markoth 3 times?

You did it in 3 tries?

[hallow solar]

50%

[sour flax]

DAMN

[fiery trench]

3 times
once on switch for completion
second on pc for completion
third was for attempting radhog on switch in under 24 hrs

[hallow solar]

theres a reason why strength is top 5 best charms

[queen lodge]

Any tips besides pray

[hallow solar]

my god do you hate yourself

[fiery trench]

stay away from the left wall
he can spawn blades in the left wall but not thr right one

[hallow solar]

i havent beaten markoth but i think hes the second hardest radiant boss

[queen lodge]

Yeah he can unless you mean blades you can't see

[hallow solar]

below absrad

[fiery trench]

I did p1-4ab and radhog thrice what u do think

[hallow solar]

this is my HoG

[jaunty dune]

Grim nkg pv and most of the dream warriors are was to radiant

[queen lodge]

Haven't done p5?

[fiery trench]

not sure what's left to interpretation with "blades in the left wall"
but yeah thanks for reminding me he can spawn blades past the left wall too

[hallow solar]

nope

[fiery trench]

english or no proper response

[hallow solar]

want to do p4 bindings first

[queen lodge]

Well no he can spawn blades in the right wall

Guess you got really good rng or smth

But they can spawn there

[fiery trench]

huh
regardless the right wall is better

[queen lodge]

That is true

[fiery trench]

much better to see the blades than to not

[queen lodge]

This boss really wasn't made for a fight like this

[hallow solar]

perservere

[queen lodge]

I know i did for almost every other boss

[hallow solar]

hardest radiant ive done is oblobbles so idk exactly how bad markoth is

[queen lodge]

Is that a bot spam?

[fiery trench]

ok so I think Imma use the touhou church organ
god does it sound peak for sanctum

[hallow solar]

gpz as well

my next hard radiant is probably gonna be markoth

since im doing it in order

unless watcher knights are a problem

or no eyes

[queen lodge]

Oblobbles was hell markoth is honestly worse

No eyes is wasy imo

Watchers can be a problem i ussually struggle with them

[hallow solar]

i wish no hitting an ascended boss gave radiant

[rich wedge]

menderbug my goat cuz he's immortal and can't die

Well he was until Prismatic told me the truth

[queen lodge]

Well no since you need to do asc for rad to unlock

[rich wedge]

😔

[tribal frigate]

radiant SoB is fun as hell

[hallow solar]

id love to fight them too bad i am too scared of p5

[queen lodge]

I think my least favorite part if markoth is his damn shield

[hallow solar]

payo, mine!

[queen lodge]

Sob?

[hallow solar]

breba saru!

sisters of battle

[tribal frigate]

Sisters of Battle

[queen lodge]

Ah

Yeah i love that fight

[tribal frigate]

what build u guys use for it?

[queen lodge]

I honestly forget

But a nail build

[tribal frigate]

My build is: Dashmaster, Sprintmaster, Sharp Shadow, Mark of Pride, and Quick Slash

[hallow solar]

sprint

[tribal frigate]

For literally anything 🙂

[hallow solar]

really?

[queen lodge]

Hm no strength

[tribal frigate]

nah

[hallow solar]

are you not overcharming?

[tribal frigate]

yeah i play the game with that

[tribal frigate]

no

[hallow solar]

for a radiant boss overcharm dude

[digital grove]

strength qs sbody nmg fury and mark of pride with godseeker+ activate fury setting turned on

[hallow solar]

2*oneshot=oneshot

[tribal frigate]

... that didnt even cross my mind ngl

LOL

[hallow solar]

also elegy is a lot better for radiant bosses than anywhere else

because you are alwauys at full hp

[queen lodge]

Markoth is making me hate myself

[hallow solar]

lock in

[tribal frigate]

quick slash and elegy for markoth

[hallow solar]

isnt elegy good for mark

[queen lodge]

.....

[hallow solar]

the kb

[rich wedge]

Icl I have a new favourite now it's tiso 🥹

[queen lodge]

Nah man i was using sharp shadow

[rich wedge]

He ain't dying 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[hallow solar]

no shot

[tribal frigate]

sharp shadows valid

[queen lodge]

I'm sorry I'm just pissed

[sour flax]

guys they should add a ³ or nothing machine

[queen lodge]

No that was sarcasm

[hallow solar]

oh

[queen lodge]

Not for markoth

[tribal frigate]

well i used it

[queen lodge]

You also didn't overcharm for rad bosses

[tribal frigate]

I dont change my build, i barely ever use spells

I've only just started using spells

[queen lodge]

Spells are good but honestly useless on rad markoth

[hallow solar]

if i were to fight mark id do elegy, quick, shaman, sprint, eater

[queen lodge]

Can never get close enough to get soul

[hallow solar]

but idk

[rich wedge]

Guys does everyone die in hollow knight what's happening 😞

[queen lodge]

Sprint is beyond useless on rad markoth

Steady is the way to go

[hallow solar]

so is every one notch charm

[queen lodge]

Steady exsists

[digital grove]

@trim schooner yo

[hallow solar]

steady doesnt effect elegy

[digital grove]

[queen lodge]

Yes it does

I use it

[hallow solar]

really?

[queen lodge]

Yes

[hallow solar]

never seen that

[queen lodge]

Steady is honestly the best 1 notch for rads

[rich wedge]

Whats rads

[queen lodge]

Radiant bosses

[rich wedge]

Also yes steady goated

Ohhhh

[queen lodge]

Steady is easily the best 1 notch for them

[naive shadow]

I think Im going for weathered mask next

[queen lodge]

No questions

[rich wedge]

Indeed

[queen lodge]

May the pale king have mercy on your shade

[hallow solar]

wiki says nothing about it

[queen lodge]

About what

[hallow solar]

steady and elegy

[queen lodge]

Dude I'm using it rn

[hallow solar]

i checked both pages and found nothing

[queen lodge]

I am not moving

Trust the guy who is actively using it lol

[hallow solar]

have you moved without steady

[queen lodge]

What?

Yes that's how steady works

It stops you from moving

[sour flax]

is hiveblood good

wait theres 6 pale ore right

total

[digital grove]

pv harder specifically because i cant speedkill them for shit @trim schooner

[sour flax]

1 from seer 1 from nosk 1 from lesser mawleks 1 from grubfather 1 from radiance statue and uh

errrrr

Uhhhh

errrr

[rapid valley]

LET'S BE HONEST

[sour flax]

oh

[trim schooner]

no

[queen lodge]

Nosk gives one i believe

[sour flax]

yeh

[rapid valley]

SOUL MASTER HAD THE MOST PEAK AND NONCHALANT BOSS INTRODUCTION

[sour flax]

fuck soul master

hes the definition of chalant

he groans every time he attacks

[digital grove]

lmfaooo

[queen lodge]

He's so easy tho

[sour flax]

he is but

[queen lodge]

MAN FUCK MARKOTH

[sour flax]

he looks stupid

still

[queen lodge]

This fight is so dumb

[rapid valley]

Who's the best great Knight of Hallownest?

[stark crater]

no 😔

[queen lodge]

Hegemol

I believe thats how you spell it

Prolly wrong tho

[sour flax]

how did hegemol die

i think thats how you spell kt

[stark crater]

a maggot murdered his ass in his sleep

[queen lodge]

No

Never stated he died

[trim schooner]

@digital grove isn't this boss beautiful

[rapid valley]

I think Dung Defender/Ogrim
(PS : Dung Defender had the BEST OST)

[queen lodge]

He prolly is but it was never stated

[sour flax]

tbf how would the maggot have his armor if he isnt dead

[digital grove]

absolutely stunning and fascinating

[queen lodge]

"they never found the body"

[sour flax]

hmm

[queen lodge]

Idk took it off possibly to do something like bathe

[frozen hull]

Hi Eigy

[sour flax]

I mean I refuse to believe the maggots could drag his body somewhere

[rapid valley]

How did the maggot steal the the armor he's tiny 😭

[sour flax]

I mean the maggot could wear the armor

[stark crater]

the odds of the maggot drugging him and de-armoring him and then getting away and never having him come back for the extremely distinctive armor are basically 0

[vivid aspen]

Did it while Hegemol was sleeping

[sour flax]

so maybe he stole the armor and left?

I think hes dead

[rapid valley]

O

[frozen hull]

Hedgemol was asleep then the maggot schlimed him out and took his armor

[stark crater]

and the dreamnail dialogue heavily implies he murdered H

[sour flax]

makes the most sense

[frozen hull]

Iirc

[sour flax]

I wonder how the maggot killed him

[queen lodge]

Its dumb that a little maggot somehow killed one of hallownests greatest warriors

[sour flax]

also what would hegemol look like 🤔

[sour flax]

he was sleeping tho

[stark crater]

hegemol is basically shaped like a bowling ball, there's no normal way to get him out of the armor without waking him up

[rapid valley]

Plot twists we meet Hegemol and Ogrim in the Sea of Sorrow (ik it's not for this server)

[queen lodge]

Huh?

[digital grove]

izu hyddd

[vivid aspen]

The city crest statue gives a rough visualization

[sour flax]

like i could no diff mike tyson if you gave me a knife while he was sleeping

maybe

[frozen hull]

2 and 6 on Kita scale probably

[sour flax]

my dumbass would prolly trip

[frozen hull]

Kita scale

[rapid valley]

We should've been able to fight Iselda in the pantheons 😭

[queen lodge]

11 #fuckmarkoth

[vivid aspen]

Smaller than the overall armor, but same head shape, and EXTREMELY muscular

[digital grove]

thats joyous

im a 5 imo

1 or a 5

im quite content

[frozen hull]

Tali only Nine Sols

[queen lodge]

I'd be content

[sour flax]

is there like an official design or

[queen lodge]

IF THIS DAMN MOTH WOULD DIE

[vivid aspen]

The statue where you put the city crest into

[hallow solar]

@queen lodge

[digital grove]

suddenly im an 11 now

[sour flax]

oh

[vivid aspen]

Ya

[frozen hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1429873974367490048/1486669626464276611/togif.gif

[fiery trench]

rip

[queen lodge]

You get pushed back if you're in normal nail range without steady

[fiery trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-shoot-bomb-kirbo-cartoon-gif-17754494

[vivid aspen]

Though despite his muscles and strength, he was apparently very quiet, but also had a good sense of humor

[wispy sky]

YES

YES

[hallow solar]

elegy is not affected by steady at all

[frozen hull]

Terminal montage

[stark crater]

elegy also doesn't do anything if you are in normal nail range

[wispy sky]

YES

[stark crater]

you just deal normal nail damage and the beam passes through the enemy harmlessly

[wispy sky]

I BEAT RADIANT NKG

[queen lodge]

If you're in your nails normal non elegy range you get pushed back

[fiery trench]

ggs

[queen lodge]

Just go on attuned on smth and go up close

Ain't that hard man

[hallow solar]

thats not elegy

thats the normal nail

[queen lodge]

Yes it is

[fiery trench]

u also do normal nail dmg
cuz its just ur nail

[queen lodge]

Also true

[hallow solar]

steady body only affects normal nail hits

elegy is unaffected

[trail bramble]

real

[queen lodge]

I mean ig

Not really what i meant

Cause you fire out beams no matter what

[hallow solar]

so elegy and steady body dont synergize well

the beams do nothing if you hit with the nail

[queen lodge]

There is no reason not to use steady

[hallow solar]

either you are getting no elegy damage or no steady effect

[queen lodge]

Sprintmaster is literally useless on rad markoth dawg

[hallow solar]

not saying it isnt

sprintmaster is useless too

[queen lodge]

But steady isn't

[hallow solar]

all one notch charms are useless for radkoth

[vivid aspen]

If you're against a bigggg boss, the beams and nail hits can both on some instances, hit the boss at the same time

[queen lodge]

If a boss is close enough to you you will get pushed back

[fiery trench]

thorns isnt trust

[vivid aspen]

But that's situational

[hallow solar]

this is markoth

[queen lodge]

Yeah 100%

[vivid aspen]

Then ignore me lol

[queen lodge]

It doesn't matter having steady gives 0 draw back

Imo best build from what i currently know for rad markoth is strength qs sb mop and ge

No its not you overcharm anyways

[hallow solar]

whats sb?

[queen lodge]

Steady body

[empty lynx]

@ gr | thorns only charm

[hallow solar]

right

[fiery trench]

so does thorns, dcrest, dweilder, compass, or literally any other 1 notch coat

[empty lynx]

Steadybody

[hallow solar]

elegy and mark dont work

[wispy sky]

kingsoul

[fiery trench]

pls dont summon her

[queen lodge]

Wtf

[hallow solar]

mark doesnt effect elegy

[queen lodge]

Hold up

[wispy sky]

but tbf everyone gets void heart instantl anyways

[empty lynx]

I won't iam too scared to do so

[queen lodge]

Actually kingsoul would be really good

[fiery trench]

thank u

[fiery geode]

I have obtained every Hollow Knight menu screen

[empty lynx]

For 8 notches

[wispy sky]

but no one has it bc they get voidheart right after

[hallow solar]

dont use mark and elegy

[queen lodge]

Kinda wish still you could either make vh ks somehow or vh had a very nerfed ks effect

[fiery trench]

here me out
just use unn

[queen lodge]

True

[hallow solar]

mark does not effect the length of elegy

[wispy sky]

kingsoul is slow enough already

[hallow solar]

only the width which matters very little

[empty lynx]

It doesn't effect the length just the width

[queen lodge]

Well idk ks did become the vh

[sour flax]

what does kingsoul do?

[empty lynx]

This is radkoth right?

[hallow solar]

regen souk

[queen lodge]

Regen soul naturally

[sour flax]

oh

[hallow solar]

radkoth yes

[sour flax]

thats good right

[queen lodge]

Yes

[sour flax]

free soul

[wispy sky]

its really slow so most people dont like it

[sour flax]

is it like abysmal soul regen or

[hallow solar]

mid regen

[queen lodge]

Eh kinda

[hallow solar]

problem is the cost

[fiery trench]

its, bearable

[hallow solar]

5 notches

kingsoul is a better hiveblood

but hiveblood isnt great by itself

[queen lodge]

Eh debateable

[fiery trench]

qfocus is a better hiveblood, and qs is a better kingsoul
-# partially joking

[queen lodge]

HBs only use is white palace and the PoP

[hallow solar]

anyways for radkoth dont use mark of pride and elegy togehter

use shaman stone or soul eater instead

[queen lodge]

What are you saying

Elegy doesn't give soul

[wispy sky]

what boss should i do radiant next

[empty lynx]

Spell twister shamman stone nail master's glory mark of pride steadybody soul eater if you plan on using nail arts

strength grubberfly's elegy shamman stone nail master's glory quickslash if you want to use elegy

Strength quickslash shamman stone steadybody mark of pride for general use (which also works really well for markoth)

[hallow solar]

maybe even grimmchild

[wispy sky]

i just did nkg and pv radiant

[queen lodge]

Yeah i don't have that

[hallow solar]

what

[queen lodge]

Yeah

[hallow solar]

you got melody?

[wispy sky]

did you do banishment

[queen lodge]

Yeah

[fiery trench]

I did Shaman, eater, catcher, nmg, and twister

[empty lynx]

It doesn't unless you hit markoth up close

[queen lodge]

I like it more

[fiery trench]

lets go gambling :P

[wispy sky]

i just wanna get good at markoth for p5

hes such a bich

[queen lodge]

Well atp why would i even use elegy

[hallow solar]

im saying either use elegy and get things to boost that

or use mark of pride for a spell build

[queen lodge]

Mop does boost it

[hallow solar]

no

[queen lodge]

Mop makes the beam bigger

[hallow solar]

only width

does dreamshield work for markoth

[fiery trench]

oh yeah
forgot I had Genio’s radhog guide doc thingy

[empty lynx]

When you can't get close to markoth
there's bound to be a time in the fight where markoth gets pinned to the wall or a platform
But i get you i don't really like elegy for markoth anyway. I just know it's good for him

[hallow solar]

does dreamshield deflect markoth projectiles

or the shield

[queen lodge]

Man i just want him dead

[hallow solar]

heavy blow maybe

could unironically be good

[empty lynx]

God no

[queen lodge]

Never let him charm build

[fiery trench]

we got the wish.com dreamshield

[empty lynx]

I see the vision but god no

[hallow solar]

keeps the shield away

[digital grove]

@empty lynx

[empty lynx]

yes and no

[empty lynx]

Don't ping @crude finch please

[digital grove]

if youre several people how many people do you exactly consist of

[queen lodge]

YOU FOOL

Oh nvm

[empty lynx]

Look egg i just thought this was gonna be cool and awesome but now i feel cringe af okay

Also ei have you seen my karm lag clip

[fiery trench]

hmm
should a sanctum cover only use organs or use other instruments

[digital grove]

i have not

[hallow solar]

quick slash, elegy, strength, steady body, and then what is last

no good charm really

[queen lodge]

I read that completely wrong mb

[empty lynx]

Look in sk disc

[digital grove]

also luri have you seen my new pv speedkills

alr

lmfao what the hell

[fiery trench]

I do not have enough organs to do that, no

[empty lynx]

Shamman stone purely for when you do get soul at any point in the fight

[hallow solar]

i guess

[empty lynx]

It phased through him
See why i can't record hk shit now 😭

[hallow solar]

would soul eater or stone be better

[empty lynx]

stone can double hit better

[hallow solar]

yea true

[queen lodge]

I hate that I'm only missing 2 for rad hog

[hallow solar]

yo

[empty lynx]

Eitherway it's not the main focus of the build so

[hallow solar]

you are close

[queen lodge]

And one of them is markoth

Yet so far

[hallow solar]

absrad the other?

[empty lynx]

i mean shit you can run mark of pride to just feel better about yourself

[sour flax]

yall the lifeblood room thing only locks once you get lifeblood core right

[queen lodge]

Yup

[sour flax]

so if you die you can still go back

[empty lynx]

no what's the pb

[queen lodge]

Yes

[queen lodge]

I don't know

I would assume

[hallow solar]

once i died to the lifeblood room, didnt get my shade, got core

[digital grove]

it feels so weird fighting normal pv because i have been fighting 125% speed pv for days now

[hallow solar]

and my shade was trapped

[digital grove]

14.45

[queen lodge]

Egg

[hallow solar]

only time i ever needed jiji

[empty lynx]

Lmao do you get hit to normal pv more often now

[hallow solar]

why do i get hit more by broken vessel over lost kin

[digital grove]

no im just expecting my qslash to be much faster and the kills to be faster

[queen lodge]

I wish i could just shade lord markoth

He deserves it

[digital grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cBVD3etbGY

tendrils was evil at the end

[empty lynx]

This looks pretty advanced how long have you been trying for?

[queen lodge]

I hate radkoth so much I'd rather do ts

https://tenor.com/view/im-fucking-pissed-hollow-knight-gif-20376292

[digital grove]

i recorded this when i had like 1 or 2 days of practice im so serious 💀

[fiery trench]

well yeah pop isnt that bad

[queen lodge]

Watch the full thing

[hallow solar]

wait weaversong for markoth

[fiery trench]

I know
I saw

[digital grove]

there was some room for shrieking i didnt know about before

[hallow solar]

maybe???

[empty lynx]

what was suscat's old wr again because i feel like you were going to have like 11 if it wasn't for tendrils

[fiery trench]

as someone who did that
dont

[hallow solar]

is it worse than shaman

or better

[digital grove]

cus i didnt know shriek could bypass parry on certain directions

[fiery trench]

worse
and its not even close

[queen lodge]

Yeah i would assume i thought about and was like yeah this prolly won't go well

[digital grove]

no clue

[empty lynx]

wait what

[queen lodge]

I think i might genuinely lose it

I hate this boss

[hallow solar]

take a break bro

[queen lodge]

Why did i do this to myself

[hallow solar]

the more angry you get the harder it is to win

[pliant bough]

@wind garnet

[hallow solar]

and tired too

[sour flax]

fury of the fallen

[queen lodge]

I know the importance of a break only reason i beat p5

[digital grove]

yeah right shriek(?) doesnt activate pv's counterattack during their parry

[sour flax]

shaman stone

flukenest

[digital grove]

something like that idk i know its about facing right or right shriek

[empty lynx]

Even if the parry is facing right?

[digital grove]

suscar knows about that more than i do i only shriek when pv is on my right

[empty lynx]

wattasigma

[queen lodge]

Is there any easier way to fight rad markoth or nah

[sour flax]

yall hear me out

[queen lodge]

Just hope for good rng and do your best

[wispy sky]

radiant sheo 🔥

[sour flax]

HEAR ME OUT

[queen lodge]

He was fun

[queen lodge]

On?

[sour flax]

what if grimmchild

[digital grove]

practice on ascended and learn good positioning

[empty lynx]

pinning him to a platform in phase 1 and dumping all your soul into shade soul double hits in phase 2
Also NEVER stay on the left side of the arena. You can go there occasionally but never stay there for too long

[sour flax]

had

[queen lodge]

Bro

Just say it

[digital grove]

your success with markoth has a lot to do with how well you position yourself

[hallow solar]

would glory be good for markoth

better than steady

[empty lynx]

100%

[sour flax]

wait im trying to remember

[digital grove]

because if you just jump around randomly youre going to get hit

[wind garnet]

my oldest record is 11.43ish

[empty lynx]

For attuned?

[queen lodge]

So what build would i use for that cause im doing elegy build

[wind garnet]

yes

[digital grove]

suscar whats the deal with pv parry and shrieking

[hallow solar]

radkoth is glory good

[wind garnet]

but that was closing in on 3 years ago

[hallow solar]

for an overcharm filler

[pliant bough]

unc

[wind garnet]

2 years ago i got a 9.01

something like that

[fiery trench]

I mean I did the fight with basically solo nmg

[pliant bough]

wait i remember that

[fiery trench]

so I’d say yes

[empty lynx]

Elegy strength quickslash steadybody soul eater/shamman stone depending on which direction you face when sleeping

[hallow solar]

cool

@queen lodge use NMG over SB

[sour flax]

is hive knight worth fighting

[queen lodge]

Huh

[hallow solar]

yes

[pliant bough]

no

leave the bee alone

[wind garnet]

anyway i asked TASers about the parry shriek thing and it seems that it has to do with pvs parry hitbox not connecting when shrieking to the right

[queen lodge]

Hahahaha no

[hallow solar]

hiveblood is good for white palace

[sour flax]

oh

[pliant bough]

no

[hallow solar]

why

[fiery trench]

reward wise: no
fight wise: maybe
music wise: yes. I love that bee

[empty lynx]

Like depending on which of the two you like more
Also do replace steadybody with nail masters glory if you plan on using nail arts

[sour flax]

that means I do need it

[agile pewter]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDN6JltbQAQiK_2.gif

[queen lodge]

Nmg isn't that good

[sour flax]

like not need it but

it would be nice

[wind garnet]

@agile pewter

[wispy sky]

ok nail arts are op on markoth

[hallow solar]

better than steady

[digital grove]

incredible

[fiery trench]

why
just why

[sour flax]

it gives you regen right

[empty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[pliant bough]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDN6JltbQAQiK_2.gif

[queen lodge]

Plus the only way to get some value out of it is claw grip which i don't fw on hk

[fiery trench]

… I hate today

[hallow solar]

hiveblood is the best charm in the game for palace and path of pain

[queen lodge]

Me too

[empty lynx]

Claw grip?

[wispy sky]

for p3 and pop yes

[sour flax]

wait do you need to do pop for dream no more

[fiery trench]

mantis claw

[hallow solar]

no

[pliant bough]

yes

[queen lodge]

Do you not know what a claw grip is

[sour flax]

oh ok

[hallow solar]

just palace

[hollow forge]

its only for an optional journal entry

[hallow solar]

PoP doesnt even give percent nor an achievmenrt

[fiery trench]

ok nvm

[empty lynx]

Are you playing on mobile or something?

[sour flax]

do i need it for the mark

[hallow solar]

all it gives is the seal of binding journal entry

[queen lodge]

Hunters journal entry

[agile pewter]

Omg did you finally have equal subcount?

Congratulations!

[queen lodge]

Controller

[sour flax]

OH

[hallow solar]

which isnt needed for hunters mark

[agile pewter]

[queen lodge]

Im on console

[sour flax]

I MUST DO IT

I MUST

[hollow forge]

no

[empty lynx]

Oh ok i thought you were pc for some weird reason

[pliant bough]

[sour flax]

but i need it to finish the journal right

[queen lodge]

Yeah no

[empty lynx]

No it shouldn't

[empty lynx]

Awww

[fiery trench]

well yeah
imagine all the people who would downvote the game if this optional dlc thing was now required
team cherry would never

[hollow forge]

there are journal entries that only increase the number of total entries. they arent necessary

the zotelings for example

[queen lodge]

So what build should be strength quick steady elegy and shamen?

[sour flax]

what if we locked every boss behind pop for fun ofc

[vernal knot]

Hello everyone

[sour flax]

and if you die youre back in dirtmouth

[vernal knot]

Path of False Knight

[hallow solar]

PoP is easy

[sour flax]

actually howling cliffs

[fiery trench]

I beat pop in steel soul
get off ur high horse

[pliant bough]

the core design of it doesnt allign with giving an achievement

[vernal knot]

Path of Flukemarm

[fiery trench]

hello

[hallow solar]

no risk

[vernal knot]

To reah the alluring god of motherhood, one must embrace the harshest punishment

[hollow forge]

have u guys seen the korean guy that did hitless popv with fury while running couriers rasher at the same time

[vernal knot]

Hello Duolingo

[hallow solar]

in a dream you dont die besides radiance

[wary hound]

is tis really an achievement tho?

[fiery trench]

u die in palace ur save ends
u do know that right

[sour flax]

dude what if we replaced every enemy with markoth

[fiery trench]

lol no

[vernal knot]

Yes

[hallow solar]

theres no shade though

[sour flax]

every room is the radiant markoth arena

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/W3XZ5y_r7W8?si=Kl9NKgpTTxezGoxZ

[queen lodge]

No it kills you

[fiery trench]

and?
a death in palace is a proper death

[pliant bough]

Charizard X

[hallow solar]

in all other dreams or silksong memories you dont die

thats weird

[vernal knot]

hello Suscat

[hollow forge]

radiance fight

[vernal knot]

How you doing

[fiery trench]

this isnt a dream nor is this sk

[sour flax]

doesn't count

[hallow solar]

probably a bug or an oversight

[pliant bough]

or Y 🗣️

[sour flax]

he didn't do summons only

[hallow solar]

white palace is a dream

[hollow forge]

also the lifeblood core room i think

[wind garnet]

x

[sour flax]

I should do summons only...

[vernal knot]

X marks the spot

[fiery trench]

fully intended

[vernal knot]

Damn Nadiam knows balls

[hallow solar]

radiance summons a shade

[pliant bough]

no it isnt

[fiery trench]

memory
and all memories in hk count as deaths

[queen lodge]

Doesn't matter and so is radiance and that still kills you

[vernal knot]

WP is real

[hallow solar]

not godhome

[vernal knot]

Is the thing

[fiery trench]

godhome’s a dream and not a memory

[hallow solar]

radiance brings a shade out though

[vernal knot]

The reason WP counts it's because it's the real deal, just inside the Dream REalm

[wispy sky]

how do i do ascended markoth

it’s genuinely impossible

[wary hound]

radiance isnt a memory tho

[vernal knot]

Radiance is also real

[queen lodge]

Idk man that's just what team cherry did

[hallow solar]

also failed champion lost kin white defender soul tyrant grey prince zote

[vernal knot]

All Dreams, In WD's case memories but still within a dream

[fiery trench]

hmm
fair enough
I guess the best way to discern is if the area is “real” ig

[empty lynx]

Okay nevermind elegy feels disgusting without mark

[queen lodge]

No you just get kicked out of the dream

[vernal knot]

The real reason is fucking Game Design I'm just trying to justify what I can

[hallow solar]

whats the logic then

[pliant bough]

it was already explained

[queen lodge]

So what build should i use just replace elegy with eater?

[fiery trench]

I think this is the best reasoning

[hallow solar]

if white palace summons no shade and is inside the dream world, its a "death"

[wispy sky]

ahhhhhh

how do i beat ascended markotj

[hallow solar]

failed champion summons no shade and is inside the dream world, its not a "death:

[vernal knot]

The thing is You can't get kicked out of the Dream Realm from dying to Rad

It wouldn't really make sense

So Shade.

[empty lynx]

Are you getting tired of elegy?

[fiery trench]

in all dreams a death just kicks u out
in white palace it sends u to ur last bench

[wispy sky]

markoth is like the only boss ill willingly avoid

[hallow solar]

shaman stone over eater

[wary hound]

yeh ALSO in godhome
u go into a dream in a dream

[queen lodge]

I'm just tired of this boss man

[vernal knot]

The real reason is that the player isn't built different like TK is, it don't die ever

[wary hound]

trust

[vernal knot]

The dreamerst

[fiery trench]

dreamception

[empty lynx]

We all are at some point

[hallow solar]

okay but doesnt green area in silksong have a bench

[vernal knot]

No silksong here

[hallow solar]

did it or did it not

[vernal knot]

Shush

[queen lodge]

SPOILER TAG

[vernal knot]

Swilsong

[wary hound]

making me question if this is #hk-discussion

[vernal knot]

Not even spoilertag, talking Silksong is banned, period

[fiery trench]

idk
I havent touched ||act 3||since january
and I dont plan on returning anytime soon

[vernal knot]

Spoiler tagged or not

[queen lodge]

really?

[sour flax]

would iselda beat all 5 of the great knights

[vernal knot]

Just delete the message

[vernal knot]

Yes

[trim schooner]

@digital grove should I do CAS at Left

[hallow solar]

why is talking about silksong "banned"

[wispy sky]

cornifer couls beat radiance trust

[queen lodge]

He's stupid

[fiery trench]

its to avoid accidentally spoiling people who go here

[vernal knot]

because this Discussion is solely dedicated to HK

[pliant bough]

gd too

[vernal knot]

Allowing Silksong in the slightest would be redudant

[fiery trench]

since there’s an area specifically for sk, its technically better to do so there

[vernal knot]

[wispy sky]

markoth fucking ruins p5

[hallow solar]

then why is the silksong discussion completely off-topic 50% of the time

[queen lodge]

I don't think it is from what I've seen you should just spoiler tag ss stuff but only talk about ss if you're like comparing things from it to hk don't just start full convos about ss in hk dis

[wispy sky]

not even zote

[hallow solar]

i am comparing

[vernal knot]

Because #sk-discussion sucks and should be deleted dude

[fiery trench]

so r we
we just limit sk

[honest shale]

spoilers

[vernal knot]

The thing that differentiates #hk-discussion to #sk-discussion is that #hk-discussion isn't ass like #sk-discussion

[empty lynx]

I genuinely just first tried markoth with elegy mark of pride LMAO

[honest shale]

also there are sparate chats

[vernal knot]

#sk-discussion sucks and is poop and should be deleted like it's lost twin

[queen lodge]

Ok now we just hating

[hallow solar]

who goes to a discord server without expecting spoilers

[fiery trench]

skdisc does suck ass tho
completely irredeemable

[wispy sky]

we are both ass

[vernal knot]

Absolutely.

[sour flax]

ikr

[vernal knot]

Don't you compar eyourself to #sk-discussion

[empty lynx]

Sk-disc resident here
That channel fucking sucks

[queen lodge]

Really?

[grizzled fossil]

Does saving zote count towards 112%?

[empty lynx]

Also sometimes it turns into mio discussion

[vernal knot]

No

[queen lodge]

Mio?

Like the game

[honest shale]

if i want to talk abt the game hollow knight but see shitsong spoilers ima be pissed

[empty lynx]

Different game
Memories in orbit

[fiery trench]

we wouldnt just hate it randomly
we have reasonings behind the hate

[hallow solar]

mio or nine sols discussion

[cold lion]

[queen lodge]

Wtf

[vernal knot]

#hk-general

[honest shale]

because there are other chats in this server fir silksong

[vernal knot]

Like #hk-general

[queen lodge]

Huh guess thats true

[wispy sky]

help me how do i face dance

[queen lodge]

Ok back to markoth

[wispy sky]

my record is 6 facedance hits in a row

[vernal knot]

I would

[karmic schooner]

it was so much better when Silksong wasn’t out because then we could talk about good games

[empty lynx]

I genuinely just first tried bro with elegy mark of pride how the fuck

[queen lodge]

(I hate this)

[hallow solar]

salubras blessing has been all i hear for the past 20 minutes

[queen lodge]

I

[fiery trench]

well its a bit late for that considering u’ve been given a reason

[queen lodge]

HATE YOU

[honest shale]

im never entering that wasteland again

[fiery trench]

get off the bench
stop torturing urself

[vernal knot]

Fuck

[hallow solar]

several people is typing

[cold lion]

if sk-discussion isnt discussing sk, chances are theres nothing about sk to discuss 🙄

[queen lodge]

I've been on him for hours

[vernal knot]

In my effort to blindly hate I fucked myself over, Now It's just hate

[empty lynx]

:<

[queen lodge]

Bro did it in 1 try

[honest shale]

update the game

[queen lodge]

I'm so fucking done

[empty lynx]

Use mark of pride elegy fr

[vernal knot]

No don't do that

[queen lodge]

I WAS

[fiery trench]

dawg radkoth took me a week

[sour flax]

wait is salubras blessing the floating salubra that gives you soul

[vernal knot]

Ok Duolingo you're amazing we get it

You did Cdash only oro and mato

We see the fit

[sour flax]

isnt there a zote variant

[wispy sky]

my dumbass keeps just pogoing when trying to facedance

[sour flax]

of salubras blessing

[honest shale]

in eternal ordeal

[hollow forge]

yes but it appears only in eternal ordeal

and it sucks up your soul instead

its really fucking funny

[fiery trench]

wat
how is radkoth taking a week of playtime full of attempts good?

[honest shale]

and it can be killed

[sour flax]

how do you do eternal ordeal

[queen lodge]

WHY DOES HIS SHIELD GO SO FAR MAN

[vernal knot]

I dunno' but it's better than me

[hollow forge]

yeah im grateful for that

[sour flax]

zote is funny

[fiery trench]

better question is why

[vernal knot]

I think

[queen lodge]

Basically covered the whole arena

[hollow forge]

its a hidden area inside godhome

[vernal knot]

I don't remember

[honest shale]

because hes hard as fuck

[sour flax]

hes an ass but hes funny