#hk-discussion
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ah
okayyyy hiiii
Grey = Thorns? 
aparently
it is a unfortunate side effect of having thorns enjoyer in my name for ages
Shaking my head
thorns is funnier to say so its ok
i tried hk on the ps5 recently and my ass was close to beating lost kin twice
dashing feels so off
so close to quick cast
mhm
What do u play on
i dont know shit about ps anything so
this fight is I think 280 nail hits which shouldn't be that bad
ohh on keyboard
but is for some reason
why cant i eneter the voice channels?
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Piss
homewrecker behaviour
i play with a controller. it has back buttons which is actually really nice
What are they bound to
hello
xyab since i dont really need any for shoulder buttons
and hk is the only game i ever play
hi shade lord
hiiiiii melone
i still love this image
wait whats the context 😭
btw guess who wrote it
i dont know
me
I don't remember
I probably sent it in someone's dms, but I forgot to who
i was tring to see how many messages i wrote nut idk how the bot dyno says to go to server search bar where is it
i didnt know lemm wouldnt let you sell relics if you had defenders crest on
Hiiii gr
should be in the top left corner
YAYYYYYY
GG!!!!
i should probably do that before p5
ive got rad nkg (but im out of practice), asc pv, asc gpz, and att radiance
forgot to say hi
top left corner where i cant find it and i dont use discord very often
yay
are you on mobile or pc
pc
ggs
then it should say "search" or something like that
found it
cool
i thinl
radiant nkg time lol
an ad was covering it
@real pasture smh
How do u get the part where you are in the abyss and u have to climb up while there’s some text and shi?
Like I thought u were supposed to dd somewhere into the ground at the bottom of the abyss but nothing happens
nope
lets GOO
you need kingsoul
and you need to equip it
White palace?
and then itll open
And the lady in green gardens?
it is ready
yes from white palace and queens gardens
get both fragments
oh word?
I hate that area
replace compass and longnail i would say personally but thats just me
real
i like the atmosphere but the gameplay is weird for me
be confident and go to deepnest when you need
i am not good with mods can someone help me
no just have to downpatch and download something
hey, if/when I release my Soul Sanctum cover, should I have gameplay included?
just a downpatch to version 1.5.78.11833 and then the use of lumafly or scarab
ok
woah
🔥
nice
Current product of the cover
its no where near done, but the piano roll is at least at Soul Master
cant listen rn :/ at rehearsal
im just spamming down and side slash and kinda wiggling around
thats fine
it'll be here later
yah
or perhaps finished
who knows
like down left right left down
That's how I learned! That said did I learn...
how do i do i tried from steam and didnt see anything
must take quote some practice to get consistent
Depends on the level of face dancing
okay over halfway this might not take like 20 hours
THERES LEVELS TO THIS????
what are you doing
i actually hate hornet's caltrops holy shit
croco gpz
theyre so annoying
Obviously lol
who doesn’t
go to the gear (or right click on the game select menu) and click on properties, then game versions and betas, and select the one that has "previous version" underneath it
theres a reason he ruins p5 runs
Like a basic pogo left hit right repeat is quick to do consistently
Adding perfect nail turns makes it alot harder
i rhink thats what im doing rn
Why are you learning facedancing
me if I get my way
i hate this fight
thx
np
dude
i mean for what boss
welp, time to suffer as I attempt to multitask working on the Soul Sanctum cover and remembering wtf croco means
Kk
ah
...
I'd assume so
considering I just shaman spell those fuckturds
Flukemarm
i let zote die and now i have to kill zote grey prince for the hunter's journal how can i do please
And absrad once you get better
u dont and u dont need to
because absrad and like is really the only boss you facedance on
so it lets you get used to starting it up
oh my god
is he optional in the hournal ?
Guys I never played this game is it super fun and challenging ? Is the difficulty fair ?
alr thanks
very very challenging
The difficulty is fine
early game is pretty forgiving tho
Alright then I'mma start playing it
theres like 1 very challenging thing for platinum
I keep walking into him why is it like this
fun if u like exploring and the feeling of being lost
challenging especially towards the end
difficulty is fair
keyboard or controller?
meta is controller but i use keyboard
if I had a nickel for every attempt of GPZ I lost to contact dmg, I could afford to by sk on switch and xbox
either works, whichever you have more experience with
Meta is not controller lol
really? i see everyone use controller
95% of top players use kb(m)
this is true
its not a huge deal but at that level its slightly better
and for basically everyone, its negligible
i don't think that's true
definitely an overexaggation
its a large majority, i didnt put it in a calculator
i don't think it ever matters lol
and yes its an expression
its a hyperbole 😭
fortunately 75% of hk players will never dream of reaching there, so it doesnt matter :P
it does in super competitive speedrun categories
gah i cant wiggle my nail around AND aim
Depends on your threshold
but it absolutely does
facedancing is hard
i feel like i've only ever heard that it makes nail turnarounds easier
Alot more than 75
i keep just going up
i don't know how it's better in most cases
wow
who could've guessed
it also has advantages in speedruns
i was able to do a lot on controller
aight then wish me luck folks
u got this :)
Obviously, thats why i said theres still top players on controller
i was not thinking of speedruns when i heard the phrase top play
dont quit on the first area please
but theres alot more on kb
what are the advantages of keyboard then
yeah i did 112% with a mediocre xbox controller and am doing p5
nail turns as you said
comfort after long periods of time
you can do that on a dance pad lol
Its more precise with movement because you have instant directional changes
oh and unless u wanna risk spoilers, go to #hk-help if u get lost, and dont view anything not related to a msg u sent (specifically in hkhelp)
I don't get uncomfortable after long times on controller
but for me its the opposite because i have hypermobile fingers :(
no
me neither lol
thats just what ive heard
keyboard is significantly more uncomfortable than controller
when you get to modded content like your anyrad 2 players (applies to less, but easier example) who use like m2 jump then its more evident
basically fully subjective
m2 jump?
mouse 2 I assume?
but i hear alpt more issues about controller players and hand issues
Right click
ohhh yeah
there are no hand issues with controller unless you're doing some super weird tech
controllers have more hand issues than kbm?
I find controller less straining on my hands than kb
that would be surprising to me
Because you also play controller
i have never had an issue using controller and i have 2k hours on hk
still don't know how the fuck people manage to play hk with both keyboard and mouse, but oh well
not like its my concern
for almost all my life I was kb
why switch
damn i have like. idk less than 1000 i think
it's only subjective when i say kb is more uncomfortable lol
habit from other games
Yes? Thats what i said huh
it is easier to pick up a game on controller because there is less input decisions
most of the games I've played on KBM tend to strain my hands far more lol
I just find kb better for me cuz playing hk on controller means playing on switch one
Even when you had kb experience?
yes

i have 12 side buttons on my mouse because i use musescore a lot so it makes stuff easier, but also its very useful for gaming in the right situations
controller uses about 3 buttons if you don't use spells
so there are less things to think about pretty much
i only play controller for a few games
hk just didnt seem like one that it'd be better in for me
ive got 4 back buttons on my controller
u mean tryharding, right?
and my hand issues which plague me now are mostly from doing things on kb anyway
no I mean my dumbass can't beat silksong without tools
mixed with celeste on controller
Switch?
nope
oh
ok
xbox controller. i play on a pc tho
U a composer?
celeste is a game where kb is objectively better
yup! not a very good one, but still.
I mean every1 plays sk with tools, but that neither here nor there
heck I can't even clear PV or NKG (did ascended NKG at some point but I forgot how)
Nice! Me too (again, not a very good one. Its more of a hobby), ehat sort of stuff do u like writing
just whatever comes to mind. i listen to some classical, but i also have this silly piece inspired by beaches!
I have like 3 finished comps and only 2 are decent imo
yeah but I've had to use poisoned cogflies as a last resort more than once
u guys can make ur own songs?
-# all I can do r covers :(
Oh same, for me clssical is either hit or miss lol. id love to hear your piece
being a cover artists is harddddd...
dw thats very impressive
esp with picking out the little quiet parts
Hey if yall can make music at all, you're already pretty cool IMO
aww thx!!
dawg my best "pieces" r a decent Soul Santum cover and a Japanese cover of the fucking discord call song
bc u take smth and need to add your own flare whilst keeping it sounding the same etc etc it goes on lol
thx cro
Yo id love to hear them
Will listen now
cant listen cause im sitting around at rehearsal in case they need me
What software do you use
fl studio demo
What do u play
mwomp
ohh its theater rehearsal and im in tech, but i also play the cello!!
ooh nice. I have deep respect for cello players
rn im learning the most basic piece ever
rlly? why?
I like the soul sanctum. not sure I get the discord call though
discord call sounds nice, but I feel like I don't hear the discord call
Does that include tapping my feet to orchestrate a plant’s death
it only shows up if u call through dms
I know its there for the website, not sure about app
bc as a violin player cello seems harder, more tiring. Also vibrato is quite difficult on cello imo from my attempts. Not to mention cello sounds so glorious
no I mean I've used it before, but I feel like it's changed enough I don't recognize the call song
it has a wonderful timbre
Lmao I love how at the end you can hear the other person pick up
1/2 reasons I put the (Maybe)
other being idk if it counts as traditional Japanese sounding
These are great bro
i think violin seems super hard 😭😭,, i cant even do vibrato myself yet, but im working on it!! also i do agree with it sounding lovely, but right now my A string is dying and so it sounds like crap
hmm isn't the discord call song just repeating 2 notes over and over again
spaced out
I had to call my own alt just for that sound
which means remembering the login for an alt I made in 2016 (aka 9 years before I made this song)
Lets go i play cello
its just the first instrument
and nothing more
omg i do too how long have u been playing
slight bit
not by much
Not that long, around a year
Im not that good but its fun
Rip, violin is hard ya. Im sure you'll get it, vibrato takes a long time to develop, mine is still a little shaky on occasion haha
How long have u been playing for
about 4 years lol
Nice nice
what sucks is that its been months since I made it, and since it was made on the demo I cant reopen the project to give proper specifics
whats an easy and cheap instrument to start on
the recorder
This
thats the only "cheap instrument"
okay other than that one because I have a personal vendetta gainst that thing
depends
"cheap musical instrument" is an oxymoron
I bought a Kalimba for fun. Is pretty fun other than needing actual nails...
cheap means like £200 in terms of violin and it sounds like a genuine uncut box of wood
yeah...
a lot
to start out you don't need a really really good instrument
look up "gibson les paul" on any music instrument site
yeah my first cello was made by yamaha 😭
or better yet any acoustic guitar by martin
You do not need a Gibson les Paul bro
thats like asking for a strad
i havent played one but a friend does and apparently its one of the best brands ever
for the quality
it is, I have a prs myself
two actually
mwommp when you get the chance would I be able to hear ur comps
if ydm ofc
yeah sure! theyre like all unfinished but ofc
i have a harley benton 7 string thats kinda doodoo but ive been planning on getting an ibanez for a while because theyre one of the few to make really cheap guitars that dont come like the delicate flower out of the box
No worries lol iktf
ok im gonna start a dm with you so i dont forget
I tried an ibanez a few years ago and it sounded so good
Idr which one but
it was wonderful
may be worth restringing
oh ok
im so glad im getting a better string 😭
if youre not already, make sure to get them all done instead of just the a
Its not exactly necessary but probably better
yeah i would say so...
since that way you have a new set and theyll sound the same instead of u just having one new and 3 old
yeah ofc
ya
anyway im gonna head out im just gonna watch cast rehearse
Okie cya
p5 first attempt guys
took a break and came back, I’m at absrad with shell binding and three lifeblood
holy gg
AI
how many bosses total in p5 ??
41-42
Depending on whether or not you have GPZ unlocked
i don't
all of them
Guys why do I can’t go in voice channels ??
What ??
What is this
Ohhhh okk
you havent sent enough messages
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where can you checj lbl
OHH TIGJT LMAO
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THAT HAPPENED TO ME TOO YESTERDAY, DUDE
OMG
anyway
what were u saying
mb for interrupting
SEH
Guys I don’t understand how I can see my message count like it don’t show up when I’m doing what the bot is saying 😭😭
i need to rant about the dreamer because i just fought Herrah
SHE JUST STANDS THERE?????????? WHAT. WHY DID SHE JUST ACCEPT HER DEATH LIKE THAT i feel kind of bad???? and her weird face being a seal???? WHY AM I UNDOING THE SEAL. sealed things should prob be kept sealed why have i turned into a murderer omg
pls dont spoil anything i just needed to vent out my excitement
luv bug game
i was expecting a full boss fight
i came with charms, health, etc???? just for her to talk a lil and stand still
herrah is the coolest imo :>
shes the first i found 
109% and never heard about Herrah
herrah the beast,,,
i like how one of the pinned messages is "hollow knight has no lore" then theres a channel for its lore
LMAO
I used to bite my nails a lot, especially when nervous
After playing Hollow Knight, never again
why's that?
It doesn’t
OH WAIT
im too slow for most discussions about this game tbh
this is spoiler free?
no
hk-help overall is
here is not
hk help is spoiler free
hkdisc has no spoiler tags
if you want fresh experience, don't go here much
why is flukenest so broken
lingering hitboxes
accidentally one shot a pantheon boss with it earlier
to make it balanced, use flukecrest
man is flukecrest disapointing
still stuck on p3 because gpz is a piece of shit boss
should've left him to die smh
radiant obblobles is SO HARD
f a c e t a n k
or are you doing charm binding?
id prob say unbreakable strength
@stark marlin u got a new client
defo 1000% quick focus
nah his hitboxes for that one move is just absurdly ass
you can't facetank a rad boss
is that not obvious enough
guaranteed hit if I dont predict it
dont u like that fight tho?
I may like obblobbles
but I won't help them do them radiant (neither will I do them radiant myself)
replace rng with bullet and ur statement is marginally more true
guys don't worry i'm not typing a message it's so i remember smth
gpz is def the worst boss lowk
what charms would you all recommend for radiant obblobles
nah
:(
idk why i saved zote I gained nothing and lost everything
depends
yes
im doing shaman stone, soul eater, spell twister, sprintmaster, mark of pride
thats good
id rather fight 10 brooding mawleks at once then fight the 3rd version of gpz once
Is the only purpose of Doing RHoGis to be the true true hunter?
in base p3?
no just in general
im doing it for fun tbh
bragging rights plus journal entry
plus you git gud
try radiant onws gpz but its not in godhome :)
you know, gpz v10 or however many upgrades he has is even worse
yes I know he does 8 masks in one hit
W
anyways I'm going back to work
onws gold statue
Git gud
me who dies at p5ab collector.
*** 5th time in a row. Im for real.***
just got to second phase for the first time
yayyyy!
probably gonna die though
ab = all bindings at once
Just gotta beat pantheon 3 and 4 then I have 112%
oh ok
I mean the biggest issue is that he spawns PRIMAL ASPIDS and those rushing at u mosquitos
oh wtf
of radbbles?
yea
Cuz its p5
use spells plus narts
could definitely just great slash them
ive shade souled three times
for rad oblobbles you want to hit them fairly equally
i gotta be close
shade soul and ddark
i gotta lock tf in
what does pop mean
path of pain
Oh
because if you just kill one, then what happens is that you end up with one in second phase with tons of health. if you hit them both before killing one, the second phase becomes much easier because you have one with not that much health which you can melt with spells
is that really a big achievement it took me like 45 mins
died right at end damn it
not really. its the hardest platforming challenge in vanilla hk
but in 45 mins is crazy
i did it without grubsong and hiveblood and quickslash
will forever pride myself in it
oh id never be able to do it without hiveblood
granted it took me 2 hours
i did final room three times smh
id lose my mind
final room is actually evil bc you have to time the spike pogo
yes
btw if you do what DK says but take it a step further and kill both obblobbles at the same time (so keep their hp even and cast something that hits both like a shriek in the end)
there will be no 2nd phase iirc
phase 2 again
but i didnt hit the second obbloble at all
at least this phase has no rng
well the second one gains a little health, like 200? i forgot, but yeah it makes it much much easier
died
arguably first phase is harder than second phase
first phase is way way worse
BUT if they are dead at the exact same time
there's no 2nd obblobble and you skip it entirely
wait lemme double check how oblobbles phase 2 works
it's made marginally easier by hblow
in gh, it gains 200 health. if you don't hit the second one at all, you need to do 750 damage
which is 9 ddarks, 6 and a bit shrieks 19 shade souls (9 and a bit if you double hit with shaman), 24 nail hits
decide how to deal with them lol
in first phase they both have 750 health iirc so you can hit them each about 20 times with nail with strength before killing them
btw, shade soul is op in this fight. it double hits and does crazy kb so if you get cornered then you can just use it to push them away (its better to do it before you get cornered). if they're both next to or on top of each other i.e. you can hit them both with shade soul, then do so, because you'll do up to 160 damage for the price of one (granted you have shaman on)
ive never done this
quadro ssoul goes brrr
iirc it's possible without shaman with perfect placement
it is, but like you said you need really good placement to be right in the middle of their hitbox and thats hard when they're moving around erratically
I think you need to wait for them to near-perfectly align on the same height, then be at the height and fire
37/41 so far on this first p5 attempt however it is knightmare king grimm time so yeah i might be cooked idk
How to do this room without damage
The guy spawns on my face
remember that if an earlier boss causes trouble
you can always facetank them
slowing down at that elevator a bit may help
dealing or taking damage?
Ok i see
Without taking damage
like not immediately dashing but jumping and holding left for it to spawn first and then continue
phase 2 again
Thanks
I'll try it
So either kill him and brute force your way, or camp the upper right corner where the elevator is until he tps away
Yeah
I was thinking to prefire a fireball to keep him away
But if he doesn't spawn there it feels like wasted soul
what does facetank mean
btw i died sadly i wasn't in my best uh idk ye could have done better
that you equip a specific charm build and heal after each hit you take, rendering it near impossible to die
do you have recommendation of a charm build for king grimm ?
GG
for nkg in p5 I use qfocus+stalwart+grubsong+elegy+shape of unn
unn is exellent as it allows healing during flame pillars, and this build lets you facetank other bosses in this split (markoth wink wink)
Ok tysm
should I take a break to play hk
specially since I need gameplay for the vid the work is for anyways
now i get to do easy bosses until GPZ
i dont get to play hk :(
i did nkg almost hitless with a spell build

if youre very good at reacting to his telegraphs you can get away with no nail related charms and just healing/soul ones
i did deep focus qheal grubsong shaman stone
what happened?
or r u still at the rehearsal
rip
😞
no youre not
uhh
|| I have a zoomed in fight against Lace 2 with barbed bracelet reaper crest ||
outside of that, no
how long is it?
2:16, but its a bit choppy
if anyone is willing to lend me anything, just shoot me a dm
thats alright, i could use that if youre willing to send
did
does the gameplay have to be perfect or can you be terrible
I feel like perfection isnt a necessity
also hellow oswald
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modded?
I love playing as the hollow knight
please dont you dare to spoil anything please
u good
dont worry
whats up with u?
Nothing😭
is collector bad on radiant
not really
bro just came and posted a rectangle
its very easy to get its attack patterns imo
discord won't add that one emoji
he's more rng than markoth and absrng
the eyebags one
the only truly rng parts imo are the falling enemies
since you can one shot them, they shouldn't be a big issue
that's the majority of the fight
(if you run unbreakable strength ofc, i havent tried without it)
i mean yeah
the way i did it was dashing as fast as i could to the enemies as they are about to fall
as long as that's mastered, it is easy
because collector does nothing but jump
collector was easy
Useful statement
no geo but this bs
Wdym seal of binding is peak
does anyone know of a mod that lets you modify nail length? I wanna test if you can reach wtcher knights clawless with a long enough nail
I dont know one of the top of my head but I'm sure there is one out there
how you gonna do the elevators
pogo them?
um. What do you mean?
Oh i see you
actually yeah. i was really only worried about pogo to access spire
didnt think about later.
that said i think i can access wtcher knights from there by pogoing the lflying guys. But i wont be able to get rewards i ont htink
uumuu is so annoying
you might need a nail the length of an elevator shaft
why?
oh I'm stupid
there are elevators so you don't have to claw there
it just appeared to me, that you can use the elevator the intended way
well... when doing/thinking about something stupid the obvious way always becomes way less obvious
anyways the hard spot is doing the usual wingless skip? I think that's entirely possible
yeah... except im not sure if theres enough height to get over it.
cause no matter the nail length your jump height is always the same
you can pogo off another bg object to get height, dash over, pogo the normal thing to get more
use the bg objects as fuel
luckily theres two things to pogo yeah. but how high is it possible to reach if you try using three youll end up hitting cieling as there are none over to the right.
Iselda has ismas!
pogoing two objects in succession should give enough height
Well... Thats what i want to test... Im also currently wondering if quickslash would be required cause i think you get more height that way
shouldn't as you want to wait until the velocity almost stalls before resetting it with a pogo, don't you
I went there but speedrunned completely
I do NOT care about hidden shit there I just need the dreamer dead lol
Btw I killed grimm first try for some reason
guh i guess ill change my name back cause ppl forgot who i was smh
in my experience i always have to fall a small amount before i can pogo again
like the nail cooldown forces you to?
yeah grimm is pretty much just patterns
bc the platform side is so short anyway, you get near enough height from just the 1 pogo you do with normal wings skip
Im in queens gardens with no movement but ismas! guess how far i can get!
pretty good HoG so far
not even past the first room
hmm to me the extra height i need is quite substantial
well good luck
I went in from qga btw if that affects anything.
Im not sure if there are other ways in
Hi guys
the only other way in is overgrown mound which requires shade cloak
I recently got airdropped into QG from the stag
because randomizer
So I was watching regular show the other day with my dad
ive got a dumb idea
Specifically the fire-ass Christmas special from season four
i think damage boost could make it
So watching that gave me an idea for my own fire ass Christmas special
fireball skip?
Anyone up to talk in DMs?
i dont have fireball
or maybe see if you can bring a mossfly all the way over
woah nice character :O
okay i died...
maybe if you can get a spiny husk that could work
Huh maybe shade skip could
im actually very confident a damage boost could work
Yall know those dudes that be pressing a thousand buttons a second in path of pain and hella speedruning that shit?
It’s genuinely so fun to play like that ngl
is GPZ harder on radiant than oblobbles on radiant
Not bad. (:
no idea if shade skip will work... my shade commited suicide
What does gpz stand for
grey prince zote
"Grey Prince Zote"
Fuck zote
Yes
is he harder than obblobles
I would imagine that zote is much harder to radiant than obblobles
e
Eh. Depends on who you ask and their playstyle. Obleobles is more straightforward but annoying GPZ is just an RNG simulator sometimes
W
@quartz cave
whats a good charm build for GPZ
The big 3 (Shamen Stone, Quickslash, Unbreakable Strength) Pick a one notch charm and throw on Soul eater for your Descending dark and thats my build for almost every boss
To little damage and no knockback to be had so not imo
Yea for taht I use DDark and that typically handels them
i see
@digital grove
okay mossfly pogo worked
hi what do u think of my new pfp
cool
shame i wanted to damage boost
elegy is just too little damage your better of with MoP
@quartz cave Wanna join uno
alright im doing attuned and then radiant
i think it shows off my jawline pretty well
im making cake, maybe later 
sidenote ive never played uno
OK
fucking hates me,
why does it look higher fidelity
wdym..
Good Luck.
i just think he looks quite optimistic here
what kind of cake aer you making 
like hes gazing at the horizon
cheesecake its the only thing im good at
pensive
W
but i meant that u hate me cause u said "OK" not bevause u didnt ask about the cake
😭
(also sarcastic)
WHAT
minion killed me
the word "ok" has a kill count u should KNOW this
we say ANYTHING
it gives off so much "ok idc enuf to entertain a convo because u are disgusting and repulsive and a sorry scrap of humanity 🙄 "
meanwhile u have "oke" and "okii" which are like sunshine n rainbows
HUH
zuta is the worst attack
Hi guys
I wanna infodump in DMs
I just had like 6 different people screaming in my ear so it was hard to conjure up a good response
i think ive reached the limit of where i can reach in queens
I didn't know ok was like that bro
There are also neutral okays which mean ok nice, you got a good thing going here
IM KIDDING
😭
u should NOT take me seriously 99% of the time
thats why u gotta read in between the lines
different okays have differences nuances and tbus diff meanings
Makes sense
none, play at ur own pace 
comparison is the thief of joy
i got all achievements at like ~300 hrs but i did do some weird stuff in between
mods and radhog and bindings
yeah thats very fast 
if it werent for ZUTA zote would be easy
they are provided you get dash at some reasonable time and dont end up walking everywhere
I've beat flukemarm in a rando and got a rancid egg in reward
which is good because claw and dnail are both locked behind a ton of eggs
thats the entire bottom row of the Hall of Gods besides sisters of battle and winged nosk
22/44 bosses radiant
riddle me this: what's harder, SOB but you dodge every attack (radiant without stuff like baldur or ddark) or SOB but you don't dodge any attack
is ddark allowed in second one...
actually not sure it matters
why ddark when you could heal
i mean not dodging anything or getting hit by everything
assume it's not
it doesn't matter much
because the formers a lot easier than the latter
haha wrong answer
I've done the latter almost perfectly just today
and the attacks I've dodged was all on purpose and could be avoided
im trying to work out how much rng is needed to ruin you
that's the neat part, you don't
why? p4 bindings are harder than p5 nb
same with soul pv
bindings make p5 easier
even if just a little bit
i want all the help i can get
at least nail and charm p4 will be pretty easy
I honestly couldn't care less
pv is quite consistent for me, and there's no way I could carry the lifeblood over to absrad
once you practice pv and absrad a lot (which you should) pv becomes consistent
his hard counter is the jump button
you have to get to absrad to practice absrad though
idk
i havent tried p5 at all
i unlocked it literally yesterday
practicing absrad isnt practice its just a fun thing to do :)
so, facetank the most part of p5, kinda wake up for next to last split, lock in on PV, beat him, die to absrad, start the hog practice grind
or fluke and beat absrad
if i can fluke and beat pure vessel with absolutely no practice, maybe i can do the same for absrad
probably not
maybe you just good at the game
I'm not and I'm not willing to become
im not that good tbh
i mean im not bad
better than average
i have a lot of hours in this game
I have 140 hrs and I suck like a toddler
i think i have like 200+ cumulative hours
some on switch some on pc
btw nice yharon pfp
huh didnt know about this entrance to fungal
shell binding p5 with 12 lifeblood hearts going into enraged guardian
holy
I can’t change my charm build 😭
somehow managed to lose two hearts to guardian and five hearts to lost kin

two to traitor lord
and the rest to white guardian
took me down to one
hey at least I can equip shaman stone now
5 into markoth
one into champ
and zero afterwards
lost 5 to PV
so none left
gl
teacher (monomon): class, who can tell me how do you spell "oblobbles"?
students (in unison): s-h-a-d-e s-o-u-l!
Damn oro mato on rad is rough
use dd
Target the nailmaster who isn’t attacking you while also taking any and every opportunity to land behind the one who is currently attacking.
Shade dash conservation is not as important as it is in most fights - they have large hitboxes for contact and melee damage so your best best to dodge will be Ddark yes, but also just being in a different place outright
So dash early to ensure you can dash a second time
Huh. If you target one not attacking you you have to go past one attacking you though?
Which puts you in between each of them and then they both attack
They alternate. By dodging behind the one who’s attacking, you can attack them while the other one preps an attack
if you are attacking the one currently attacking you then you’d need to know parry frames
Sooo yeah attack the one who isn’t attacking, and dash behind the one who is often
I know they alternate. But they don't if you are in between them. By staying on one side you eliminate that risk
The result is you end up between them very often, which is usually fine.
? No?
By staying on one side both of their attacks are always able to land/pressure you away
I might suggest that for a max nail length build but that’s also fairly slow
Just dash away dash in hit twice
This is me performing the described strategy with nail 0, white spells, and all bindings at once.
@queen lodge perhaps useful to you as well.
I shade dash into a corner multiple times and still dodge the overhead slash anyways, but it should be noted that it works for any overhead as well as the corner (obviously)
Whether or not you dodge away or behind is contextual - based on where the other one is and what they are doing
I do one passive dash away to heal, but that’s only because it would be harder to get a sooner heal opportunity in between them both
This shouldn’t be a problem for radiant, and you’ll have access to your full soul bar to use harder hitting spells
To be clear this isn’t a unviable strategy. Running away is in fact often very safe (shocker). But shorter fights are also by definition much safer. You don’t need to learn crazy spell combos or damage windows to end the fight several times faster
The pain point is not be afraid to be inbetween them. If one jumps then you’re safe again, if neither jump then you can pogo both.
TLDR: you’re at an advantage whenever you dash behind one. 
I'm still stuck at pantheon 3 the sage
Should I do charms or masks first?
Final boss?
Do them all at once 
No
Nah stuck at zote and I didn't even fought zote in the dream thingy yet
Charms are harder because it’s like half your dps gone and you can make mask very easy by using fragile heart. Your call
And I need it cus I'm almost at 112 procent
Zote punishes players for dodging early or “predictably”. Wait for them to miss their attacks, then punish them for missing their failed read on you.
There’s even an attack that’s best punished by letting him literally trip over himself before slashing him
Practice in the hall and you’ll be fine
Oke thx
TLDR wait for him to “miss” first, don’t chase him
Only missing 4 for rad hog
Which
In order its JOHN SKILL ISSUE, Sly, PV, and Absrad
John?
John skill issue aka markoth
Imma need it lol
It probably goes pv sly markoth absrad in difficulty order
I found a good strat for sly so pv is prolly gonna be harder
2nd phase on him tho is rough
And the strat is gun aka grubberfly
nart for second phase
u can still nart with elegy
Nart?
Nail art
Which one wins in this legendary battle primal aspid or that drill throwing insignificant fuck from silksong
Dont talk about silksong here
hk-general its allowed
I swear people in this discord server get mad for me mentioning something remotely related to silksong in this channel
well thats cause people in here dont want spoilers? I mean i guess its been a while but like. Its in the rules. So yeah dont do silksong discussion in hk-discussion
I mean a lot of ppl havent played ss yet so it makes sense especially since they know theyre supposed to be spoiler free in this channel and can stay away from hk general
I mean is it a spoiler bro 😭
yes?
@spark oar you’ve got a nice name! Be proud of it
not really in this case but kind of
how is it not?
Ok then ill spoil more.
There is silk in silksong
And theres also hornet
Still a spoiler. and those are less spoilers
And you dont fight the massive moss charger in silksong
it counts to some extent plus its the principle that counts
Like. Something important.
The fact that you can jump in Hollow Knight. IS A SPOILER
Is that a spoiler 😭
Nah dude im making a gif outta ts
Is there a single person who doesnt know all ts
Although a better example that you may care more about... some people have entered hollow knight not knowing that whether you hold jump changes height. and that knowledge/lackthereof impacted the game for them
also if people who dont want spoilers see silksong talk in here then they just won't come here since theyre probably gonna assume that there's a silksong convo going on if that makes sense. Like even if there's not they're going to go in case someone brings up a big spoilers
Like finding that out is interesting if you dont know
ok so anything that affects gameplay should be spoiler tagged
just go to hk gen
Give up bro
Dont talk about silksong in the channel where you discuss about hk
Not rocket science
Yeah i feel like thats kinda common knowledge
its not about whether or not its spoiler tagged or not its just whether or not its silksong
Im alr with going in hk general but people being mad for me spoiling the fact theres enemies in silksong is absurd
im not mad im just tryna explain
I mean the other guy
Then dont talk about silksong
Easy as that
I guess
Well that depends on if you said it like "oh theres enemys" or name dropped an enemy
you gave more information than that...
How much
What did he say? Obv spoiler tag it
Im more annoyed by you thinking that saying a ||particular type of enemy is annoying|| isnt a spoiler
I said theres an enemy ||that throws things and is annoying||
It is a spoiler... you can see the enemy recognise that thats what you were talking about
Was that exact words?
and then act differently in response
no
So what did he say?
@queen lodge
This which isnt significant
||drill throwing insignificant fuck||
Yeah no I'd count that as a spoiler
Yes
Why is the hk community so offended by tiny spoilers
Now you can see that message and see enemies in Silksong and it can change how you act.
Cause again this isn't sk dis maybe name dropping primal aspid in sk dis wouldn't be the same but for here I'd say so
Im not bothered by spoilers outside of non-spoiler zones. But in spoiler zones im taking it too the extreme
Ok then dont take it to the extreme
cause it matters and you are not the one who is allowed to arbitate what is considered spoilers
And is there a single person who can go COMPLETLY blind into the game
people try
most people want to
If there is even the remotest possibility it spoils someone. Then you shouldnt say it
Well they had to know something about the game if they bought it
well obviously but like mechanics and gameplay and everything
literally every single person who played on launch:
and enemies and dialogue and npcs it all counts
you are not the decider of what is and isn't allowed as spoilers here, we are
and no silksong content is allowed here, period.
I mean most people know at least a bit about about the game
I literally went into Silksong without ever seeing trailers or any gameplay...
why do you think
If i had seen that message it would ahve effected my experience
I mean yeah i get that but were talking about spoilers
They probably knew alot about all the sneak peeks and leaks and the trailers
I was completely spoilerless for 4.5 months (I still havent played) and then got spoiled here
I literally just asked who will win silksong enemy vs primal aspid
it was probably to be expected at some point but I was doing pretty damn well avoiding spoilers
and?
Yall acting like i posted the most vile shit known to humanity
