hk-discussion

[trim schooner]

i mean youre not wrong but yeah, playtime isn't very accurate

[honest shale]

and i have never touched a hk mod in my life

[trim schooner]

yeah exactly

[honest shale]

22 days of owning hk doesnt = ascended anyrad and whatever the fuck you’ve done with binf

[trim schooner]

yeah but youve also never touched mods, im sure you'd be a lot better at the game if you kept pushing yourself with the help of modded fights

[honest shale]

and no input lag for the first 5 months

[trim schooner]

yea exactly

as greyfire said, playtime is not a good metric, it doesn't account for a lot of things

[foggy sable]

also as a sidenote I think I have about 7-800 hours in godhome

from rough estimates

[trim schooner]

💀

thats more than my entire playtime

[honest shale]

just godhome?

[zealous skiff]

95% of my playime is in godhome

[foggy sable]

I think 800 - afk time is closer but there is a significant amount of afk

[foggy sable]

godhome is the majority of my playtime

[honest shale]

abt half of the first file is godhome

so abt 1/4 of my playtime is godhome

plus doing p1-4 on four other files

[harsh mantle]

I have enough Geo to buy either Heavy Blow or Stalwart Shell, what should I get?

[honest shale]

neither they both suck ass

[tulip narwhal]

Sighh

[harsh mantle]

Ok

[foggy sable]

Godhome is great

[harsh mantle]

I could also get some pins for the map, what ones should I get?

[honest shale]

i havent touched my onws file in a while

ive run out of fun bosses to fight for 10 yrs

[foggy sable]

I only do for collector

[honest shale]

so i just spend most of my time speedkilling pure vessel

[honest shale]

i still havent made it to godhome on that file

still have like 50% to go

[ashen ginkgo]

yippee

[upper sparrow]

Hello guys

[foggy sable]

It is fun to do colo 3 onws

[honest shale]

hi

[upper sparrow]

I’m new here

[zealous skiff]

floggy hop isle of man vs melbourne vs sydney vs usnmpz etc

[honest shale]

i did colo 1 and said never again

[upper sparrow]

How do I beat Pantheon 5

[tulip narwhal]

Im down

[honest shale]

but i still have to do colo 2 for oblobbles

[upper sparrow]

Wait until colo 3

God tamer

[trim schooner]

install a mod called 'anyrad', it will help you get better at the game

[solar basin]

Practice? Like how you would play the other Pantheons? Oh and unlocking the lifeblood cocoons is also decent for extra room for error

[honest shale]

not required for p3

[clear hornet]

yooooooooooooooooooooo

TS WAS FUN

[trim schooner]

W ggs

[honest shale]

its such a good practice tool

[upper sparrow]

Now do Radiant mode

[upper sparrow]

What does it do?

[trim schooner]

exactly

[foggy sable]

Don't

[clear hornet]

now its time for absrad

then im done with hk

[trim schooner]

i makes the radiance fight slightly harder so you can be more confident when youre fighting her in her normal form

[honest shale]

it lets you study any attack by abs rad individually

[trim schooner]

thats absrad configurable attacks but it works well with anyrad

[foggy sable]

Anybad

[honest shale]

ah right

i forgot

[trim schooner]

dw thats an easy mistake to make most players that use anyrad for practice also use absrad configurable attacks

:>

[clear hornet]

is this setup gud for absrad

[trim schooner]

yeah thats very solid

[honest shale]

yes

shoul i do pop with 7 masks?

[trim schooner]

do it with 3 :>

[honest shale]

no

[clear hornet]

ok phase 1 is ez

[trim schooner]

lol aight gl

[clear hornet]

ill forever be a fan of radiance entrance tho

[lofty plank]

im on failed champion on p5

ive never fought nkg before

wish me luck

[trim schooner]

gl

[trim schooner]

you wont be once you start grinding for radiant absrad

[clear hornet]

i wont dw

[trim schooner]

lolll

[upper sparrow]

Good luck

[foggy sable]

Yea

[lofty plank]

i died AGAIN

😞

[trim schooner]

rip

[steady cradle]

yo just beat pantheon 4 with soul binding

why did it lowkey feel too fast

i think i did soul tyrant no hits

yippee

[zinc delta]

just gave myself a shock again

[steady cradle]

in what way?

[zinc delta]

static

[honest shale]

how

[zinc delta]

i think

[zinc delta]

ps5 controller

[steady cradle]

oop

ngl after doing some other metroidvanias my heart like fricking pumped up and i locked in or something

[clear hornet]

i hate radiance's balls

[remote stirrup]

what other metroidvanias

[steady cradle]

just like ori and the will of the wisps idk

[remote stirrup]

ah yeah

both games?

[steady cradle]

plus i visited it after like a few weeks

nah ima try the forest though

[remote stirrup]

damn you should've played the forest first

[steady cradle]

i 100%ed the area of oatwotw

[remote stirrup]

Nice nice

[steady cradle]

*ori and the will of the wisps lol

[remote stirrup]

I feel like the upgrade from blind forest to wotw feels great

So don't look for much if you're going into blind forest second

[steady cradle]

yeah... i unfortunately noticed that too late lol

the final bosses final part is so annoying

dawg really said "bash this!"

[remote stirrup]

I dont even remember most of anything from the games lmao

[steady cradle]

lol

[remote stirrup]

Last I played was 2 years ago

It was cool though I preferred hollow knight

Have you ever tried blasphemous

[obtuse brook]

Hello chat

[steady cradle]

nah

[steady cradle]

hello pale king

[zinc delta]

hello

[obtuse brook]

No mind to think...

[honest shale]

how did the shopping go?

[obtuse brook]

Hi

[obtuse brook]

At least I still have 75$

[steady cradle]

(silence being loud says: i cant speak i have no voice to cry suffering)

[zinc delta]

[honest shale]

so it didnt go that well?

[obtuse brook]

No Tomodachi today

But I have 2 new shirts

[steady cradle]

i saw my sister playing the new tomodachi life its really cool

[honest shale]

nice

[obtuse brook]

So fun

[honest shale]

pop is relly annoying me rn

[obtuse brook]

The honey charm carries the entire PoP

[honest shale]

hiveblood just carries the section where u need to hit a lever

everywhere else has an infinite soul totem

[obtuse brook]

Ohh you're right

[honest shale]

so have you considered overcharmed jonis for pop?

[obtuse brook]

Nah

[foggy sable]

True

[obtuse brook]

Time to try the first shirt

10/10

Time for the second shirt

9/10

[honest shale]

was it worth $125?

[obtuse brook]

25.96

Yes

[honest shale]

where did the other hundred go?

[obtuse brook]

My mom took a 100$ for My shirts

So
100-26=74

[honest shale]

where did that go?

[obtuse brook]

I still have another 100$ dollar 👀

[honest shale]

nice

[grave lintel]

oh shit i was so close

literally last phase of absrad in p5

[steady cradle]

just try grubsong and deep focus, trust me

[small tendon]

yeo is a nail or spell build better

[steady cradle]

man ur chill about it nice

[honest shale]

ive done pop twice before already

ik what im doing

[steady cradle]

ah

k

[grave lintel]

i mean most of it is easy besides markoth zote back to back and absrad so its honestly just some time, but i can listen to podcasts or music or shit for the first like 40 bosses without issue so its honestly not too bad

[honest shale]

nvm

i died to the kingsmoulds

[steady cradle]

aw

[honest shale]

my nail is too old

and my spells are too white

[steady cradle]

yeah, i died at gpz (i didnt have a lot practiced like whatsoever with him but i did and now im better) on my last run

and i have 43 radiants, so uh-

[grave lintel]

hes honestly not too bad hes just not very consistent. like you just get hit with a lot of bullshit, i also used to be really bad at sly but now im better.

hold on lemme check how many radiants i have

[honest shale]

44

[steady cradle]

yeah i learned to dodge more. in fact i accidentally went into soul binding p4 and didnt get far, but i tried afterwards without overcharm and did it first try.

[steady cradle]

ik theres 44 i just havent unlocked absrad yet :)

trust

[pliant bough]

not very consistent

[pure ridge]

I somehow always forget

That i have to deal with marmu after one of te best fights

Their goes my life blood

[grave lintel]

i have 10 radiants but am only missing 5 ascendants (absrad not being one of them)

[pure ridge]

Its name should be used as an insult

[steady cradle]

man you son of a marmu

[pure ridge]

See the psychological damage an insult like that inflicts is fitting

[steady cradle]

hyear hyear hyear- (hammer of justice starts playing)

[clear hornet]

radiance is sliming me with her balls

help

[pure ridge]

Shes being a real marmu

[steady cradle]

👁️👄👁️

[grave lintel]

ahaha i just killed oro and mato with the same shade soul... i guess i spread the damage very well

[pure ridge]

Ive gotten worse at hive knight

[grave lintel]

hive knight is really fun

[pure ridge]

I do like her just worse at her for some reason

Collector to. I was doing him hitless p4 lol

[grave lintel]

huh thats really odd

what are you worse at with her now

[foggy sable]

Hive knight is great

[pure ridge]

Right??

[grave lintel]

hive knight feels like the phantom or clockwork dancers of hollow knight to me, theyre not too difficult but theyre not exactly easy, but they're a very very good boss and very fun

[pure ridge]

I personally love sisters of battle.

[grave lintel]

ugh yeah

[pure ridge]

I think imma try do one round of p5 everyday.

Was suoer consustent p1-4 but now its on and off.

[grave lintel]

i think they're more difficult than any of the 3 bosses i mentioned

[pure ridge]

Dying sooner.

Used to get to gpz and failed champ pretty consistently

[pure ridge]

I actually find them pretty okay. Maybe not easy coz theyre so fast. But not among the worst for me

Fricking gpz and sly are the bane of my existence.

Nkg ill just gave to get used to again when im getting to him consistently.

Oh and markoth is awful.

[grave lintel]

i mean if i had to give them a silksong equivelant then i would maybe say first sinner like not the most difficult in the game but super fast

[grave lintel]

getting him radiant is hell on earth

pv was more fun and easier

[pure ridge]

I love pv. Hes jot easy for me yet, But like nkg hes got a nice pattern and tells

[grave lintel]

i think i like him more than nkg as well

probably my favorite boss in hollow knight

[pure ridge]

I actually also love The Hollow Knight. Hes so precious

Deserves the world

[spark oar]

hi guts

[pure ridge]

Probably why i also love pv. My boys healthy

[honest shale]

imo pure vessel is easier than nkg

[spark oar]

wtf i mean guys

autocorrect mb

[grave lintel]

hes fun but definitely not top 5 tbh

[pure ridge]

Yea i think so. Just not used to him yet

[grave lintel]

honestly theres only like 3 bosses in hk i think arent fun

[pure ridge]

I think strictly on combat he isnt, but adding the story and music hes one of my favs

[honest shale]

for me its bcs i speedkill pure vessel for fun

[grave lintel]

yeah his theme is amazing

[pure ridge]

Heartbreaking

Give him his own game

[clear hornet]

oh my godddd i reached the phase 3

both me and boss was one hit

[golden vector]

cray

[pure ridge]

Radiance or abs rad?

[clear hornet]

abs

[golden vector]

i think abs

[grave lintel]

youve inspired me im gonna do them radiant

[grave lintel]

also fuck sly

i hate his fight

[golden vector]

i love sly

if he does nail art , i counter with nail art

unless its the cyclone attack , then i use dive.

[pure ridge]

Hes an annoying little freak

[golden vector]

sly lets me use narts a lot. and i love using narts

[grave lintel]

his second phase is bs and he only has one safe punishable attack so i hate him

[pure ridge]

Good luck! I couldn't do it. (Than again i said the same thing about p1 now im closing in on p5)

[grave lintel]

he makes me use nailarts and i dont like nail arts

[golden vector]

aww man🫃

[pure ridge]

I weirdy find his second phase better

[pure ridge]

I should use nail arts but u never do. Im too slow

[grave lintel]

i did markoth so even if it takes longer ill have more fun

[grave lintel]

i only use them for sly and no eyes

[pure ridge]

Ah i miss her original arena

[grave lintel]

true

[harsh mantle]

I just realized I don't have the screamy spell yet

[pure ridge]

Screamy spell?

Desolating shriek ?

I may have the name off

[clear hornet]

omg what am i supposed to against her balls iin phase 2 😭

[harsh mantle]

I have S soul and D dive, I know it had Shriek in the name but idk it fully

I looked it up

[pure ridge]

I cant remember where the original spell is. I think the upgrade is in ||the abyss||

[grave lintel]

og is in ||crystal peak ||if i remember correctly

[pure ridge]

Sounds abt right

[foggy sable]

howling wraiths is in the upper left exit of fog canyon

[grave lintel]

what spell is in crystal peak then

[foggy sable]

the upgrade for dive

[grave lintel]

aaah

[clear hornet]

ok guys absrad is probab the only hard boss in this game 😭

im cryin

her balls are so annoying

[agile pewter]

Lead them into the ground

[foggy sable]

you should try avoiding them

[clear hornet]

there no ground in phase 2 😭

[strong bobcat]

just get gud

[agile pewter]

Ddark

[foggy sable]

you can lead them into the platforms

[clear hornet]

its only matter of time

[agile pewter]

Always try to be on the top center plat
Orb happens > jump far to the side and circle back to land on lower platforms

[clear hornet]

ok

[terse nymph]

Finally started playing Hollow Knight on my PC (I already have a nearly finished save file on Switch), gonna try to get all the achievements for HK1 and Skong

[clear hornet]

ty

[terse nymph]

Wish me luck boiz, I’ve never speedran before and I’ve never done pantheon 5

[clear hornet]

i just swapped quick slash with mop

[terse nymph]

That said, the first save file on PC is hilarious

[clear hornet]

soo much better

[terse nymph]

I’m gonna get the 10 hour speedrun achievement with 5 masks, one nail upgrade, one soul vessel upgrade, and the vow that I will only use wayward compass

[agile pewter]

Congrats, you've double the time it takes to kill the boss

[terse nymph]

That’s hilarious

Wayward compass best charm

[strong bobcat]

lol

[terse nymph]

Do y’all ever just beat bosses charmless

On a new save file for the funny

[foggy sable]

sometimes

[clear hornet]

i dont think so

quick slash doesnt make any difference cuz u have to jump and atk

[terse nymph]

This is so unoptimal and I’m gonna get the 10 hour speedrun achievement anyway, I don’t even have 7 hours on the save yet

[clear hornet]

mop is actually quicker cuz u have to jump less height

[foggy sable]

quickslash makes a big difference

[clear hornet]

how

[terse nymph]

All I need to do is get herrah and beat the HK

[foggy sable]

on plats especially

[agile pewter]

Except in plats when there are platforms where you dont have to jump whatsoever to hit the boss

And you literally. Just said. You had problems with plats

[terse nymph]

All while probably thinking out loud about which hollow knight characters I think are hot

[agile pewter]

So yeah

Have fun

[clear hornet]

ill go with mop ig

[terse nymph]

What kind of player even am I

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/MUzPNcUK0mw?si=OH06QZ2RncKH635b

:3

[terse nymph]

I should try this sometime

[foggy sable]

not onws smh

[agile pewter]

No yeah dont you'll hate it

[terse nymph]

After I get every achievement in HK1 and Skong I’ll need something to do

[strong bobcat]

ummmm you ok

[terse nymph]

Oh also after no hitting all the bosses on radiant

[agile pewter]

Just play modded bosses, they're pretty fun

[terse nymph]

True

Coming back to HK1 after around a year is reminding me why I adore this game so much

I almost cried trying to describe why the game is so special to me bruh

It’s just that good

[strong bobcat]

fr it is

[terse nymph]

Y’know what feels weird? Coming back to this game after getting good at Silksong

The enemies are so much simpler and the bosses die in like 2 seconds

[wicked kiln]

Aura

[terse nymph]

Like I got skill checked HARD when I first played years ago

Skong changed me bruh

[wicked kiln]

Its a very big difficuilty spike

[terse nymph]

The speedruns?

[wicked kiln]

No all radiant and all radiant all bindings

[terse nymph]

Or all bindings pantheon 5

Ohhhhh

[wicked kiln]

But that too

[terse nymph]

All radiant all bindings pantheon 5 is a thing?

[wicked kiln]

People dont realise the difficuilty spike from normal to all bindings

[keen thorn]

I need an r04hog video smh

[wicked kiln]

I didnt mean in P5 i ment hall of gods

But yes it is

[smoky matrix]

How much for a q-tip?

[keen thorn]

People never understand the difficulty spikes of P5 challenges
They're so inconceivable to each other

[keen thorn]

Two snails

[terse nymph]

I don’t know why I didn’t beat pantheon 5 on my Switch save (I lied, it’s because I don’t like how switch input delay feels)

[foggy sable]

well

[keen thorn]

No

[smoky matrix]

🐌 🐌

I thought tips were free, though.

[wicked kiln]

Yeah like P5 compared to like ab or hitless is actually piss easy

[foggy sable]

not always inconcievable next to each other

[wicked kiln]

If you struggle at doing the bidning individually ab will tear you apart

[keen thorn]

You can have them back I just wanted to see them

[terse nymph]

Does anything happen to godhome if I do all bindings pantheon 5?

[wicked kiln]

Yes you get a secret encounter and beastiary entry

[smoky matrix]

Yeah, for example, P5AB and P5AB-mask I'd say are pretty similar in difficulty.

[smoky matrix]

Oh, okay.

[terse nymph]

And I mean all at the same time

[keen thorn]

I'd say R5 and R5 mask binding are pretty close in difficulty

[wicked kiln]

I mean it counts same as doing all individual so in that sense no but your P5 glows is all at the same time

[terse nymph]

Because I’m deranged

[smoky matrix]

Or, my favourite two sets of P5 challenges, R5AB and R5AB-mask.

Does it count as R5AB if I don't put on mask binding?

[terse nymph]

Like after I complete it, it’ll glow?

[keen thorn]

Anyways

[clear hornet]

this game is so fun 🥹

[foggy sable]

I'd say p5ab and r5 are similar to f5 and I can't think of any more

[wicked kiln]

Yes the bindings will glow golden

[smoky matrix]

(G)e(n)io250.

[terse nymph]

Best game ever made honestly

[keen thorn]

R5AB < R3 = P5AB = AnyRad 1.0 = F5 = R5 < R4 = RSoulSanctum < P4AB

[terse nymph]

Imo

[wicked kiln]

Wtf i f5

[foggy sable]

anyrad is actually kinda easy but so annoying tbh

[terse nymph]

Can you believe it guys, Cornifer and Aoi Todo have the same type

[smoky matrix]

Is F5 same as R5?
I think it's harder because you only have one health.

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[smoky matrix]

R5 but you're allowed to use Fury Of The Fallen.

[clear hornet]

nah thats going too far

[wicked kiln]

Wtf is this💀

[clear hornet]

its one of the

[foggy sable]

out of context imo

[wicked kiln]

Do i just dont understand the formation or is this uttermy dumb

[smoky matrix]

Yeah, because that would Silksong.

[terse nymph]

Ok I’ll concede to that, but it is my favorite game ever, close second being Skong

[foggy sable]

imagine all the out of context comparisons then squish them together

[wicked kiln]

True its silksong

[clear hornet]

one of the

[terse nymph]

The only thing keeping Silksong from reaching number 1 in my head is that there’s no boss rush yet

[wicked kiln]

No the

Its actually not even close

[terse nymph]

Silksong has an X factor, and that X factor is Shakra

[clear hornet]

lets be fr

[smoky matrix]

Surelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy RadNKG is harder than P4AB.

[wicked kiln]

I am

Silksong >>> hollow knight

[clear hornet]

fromsoftware games are better

[foggy sable]

no, I've never done p4ab

[terse nymph]

I would get the ring out for Shakra

[smoky matrix]

Dang.

[wicked kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452375128997494815/1454007954478071878/IMG_0932.gif

[smoky matrix]

But I have.

[terse nymph]

Does Dark Souls have Shakra?

[clear hornet]

in every way

[smoky matrix]

And I can say that RadNKG is harder.

[wicked kiln]

Im crine

[smoky matrix]

You can quote me on that.

Condition: It must be an OOC quote.

[wicked kiln]

Yeah get ts out of here son

[clear hornet]

theres literally no way u think these games are better than elden ring sekiro

[wicked kiln]

Elden ring is ass?

[clear hornet]

no its not lmao

goty for a rsn

[terse nymph]

I haven’t played Elden Ring

[clear hornet]

u should try

[wicked kiln]

Average realism graphics boring asf clunky controls roll hit roll hit combat

Its so sloppy

[clear hornet]

tell me the name of first boss

[wicked kiln]

Baldurs gate won goty bro ts aint worth non

[wicked kiln]

Why would i remember that mf

[clear hornet]

yea cuz u never even reached lmao

[wicked kiln]

He had some big ass magic swords

[terse nymph]

Baldur’s Gate has Karlach so it has that going for it

[wicked kiln]

Yellow weapons

[clear hornet]

imagine giving up in tutorial 💀

[wicked kiln]

I didnt

Ive played a 7hour session cause my friend wanted me to

Litteral waste of time

[clear hornet]

low attention span

[wicked kiln]

No correlation

[clear hornet]

or maybe u dont like hard games

[terse nymph]

Hi yes it’s me I play Ultrakill

[clear hornet]

ultrakill is goated

[wicked kiln]

Me when i lie

[terse nymph]

I would probably play Souls games if I didn’t have a backlog of stuff to do

So many games to achievement hunt for

[clear hornet]

u think hollow knight is hard?

[terse nymph]

So many animations to make

[wicked kiln]

Did you try P5ab? R5?

[terse nymph]

So much art to draw of my characters being happy couples

[clear hornet]

no but did u try ds3 plat?

stop cherry picking some one specific optional quest in a game to determine its entire difficulty

[wicked kiln]

But its the hardest the game offers and recognises😭😭😭

[terse nymph]

All this because Hollow Knight is my favorite game…

[wicked kiln]

The game recognises you no hitting every boss in a row and sees it as done in the files

[clear hornet]

i meant as entire game

[terse nymph]

I need to do a steel soul run sometime

[clear hornet]

like avg boss of hk vs avg boss of elden ring

[terse nymph]

It could be funny

(After I beat pantheon 5)

[wicked kiln]

Depends

[terse nymph]

Average HK1 boss dies in like 2 seconds

Soul master is a fraud

[clear hornet]

hollow knight have only 3 considerable bosses

[wicked kiln]

Hollow knight bosses take long to get challenging

[clear hornet]

only absrad seems actually hard to me

[wicked kiln]

These are

[clear hornet]

absrad pv nkg

[terse nymph]

I prefer Skong’s bosses ever so slightly

[wicked kiln]

This dude calls nkg hard

Couldnt expect non else

[clear hornet]

no its not hard. its the 3rd hardest in this game

do u understand

[wicked kiln]

Its really not

[terse nymph]

NKG is hard in the sense that you need to learn the fight and that it’s hella fast

[clear hornet]

its the 3rd hardest in this game... doesnt mean its hard for me

[harsh mantle]

Found Lake of Unn on accident ||trying to get to Howling Wraiths||

[wicked kiln]

That amkes him rather easy since thete are bosses skill based and not just do the same attack over and over

[terse nymph]

You’re just built different idk

[wicked kiln]

Dont gotta spoil dw

[clear hornet]

so who do u think is harder than nkg?

if hes not the 3rd hardest

[terse nymph]

Honestly I find base radiance harder than NKG nowadays

[harsh mantle]

Oh

[terse nymph]

I have more trouble with bullet hell bosses than with more traditional duels

[clear hornet]

bro u havnt played any fromsoftware game thats why your scale is calibrated low. sekiro's first boss is harder than entirity of hk

[wicked kiln]

Gpz is harder markoth is harder absrad is harder and pv also aint hard these bosses are too easy when learned and someone like soul tyrrant is way more of a problem for me than the others

[clear hornet]

gpz?

[terse nymph]

Markoth is hard?

[wicked kiln]

Idk why we even talk about difficuilty

[wicked kiln]

With all bindings and in r5 runs yes

[clear hornet]

that doesnt count -_-

[harsh mantle]

... How do I get to Queens Station?

[terse nymph]

Oh yeah the arena

[wicked kiln]

Yes it does?

[terse nymph]

Markoth is a bum ngl

[clear hornet]

no it doesnt bruh

[wooden egret]

Gpz and ascended markoth are not harder than nkg

[harsh mantle]

... Nevermind, I'm dumb

[terse nymph]

Silksong’s DLC bosses are gonna be deranged (I’m so excited)

[wicked kiln]

Learn nkg once and you will nohit them 10 times in a row learn the 2 bosses once and you will still be able to get killed by rng

[clear hornet]

its like saying "moss charger is hardest boss when youre mentally exhausted and cant process game mechanics anymore"

[wicked kiln]

The lore doesnt hold up to silksong and hollow knight the charackters and artstyle dont homd up and the music neither

[terse nymph]

I hope the later Skong dlc bosses break the internet in a way similar to Elden Ring Nightreign’s bosses did

[wooden egret]

Gpz is rng but is still way easier. Markoth in ascended arena is an asshole though

[terse nymph]

We need a let me solo her

[clear hornet]

i never said nkg is hard. i said hes the 3rd hardest in this game as of my experience

[wooden egret]

Also nkg has a very difficult pufferfish attack

[wicked kiln]

No NKG is just a see attack and repeat motion there is no rng its just repetetive GPZ and markoth are able to kill you via rng

[wicked kiln]

Not at all

[clear hornet]

why are u trying to prove hes not hard

i know hes not hard

[wooden egret]

Idk I can't even dodge these against tmg

[clear hornet]

but hes the 3rd hardest in this game as of MY EXPERIENCE

[terse nymph]

Can I bring up lategame Skong characters here or is that a bad idea?

[clear hornet]

its simply based on who died to most

[wicked kiln]

Youre wrong ezzz

[terse nymph]

Guys

[wicked kiln]

Silksong > any game ever made

[clear hornet]

grow up

[wicked kiln]

Not bias or anything

[terse nymph]

Which is better? Mantis doomed yuri or nailsmith nailmaster yaoi?

[clear hornet]

debatable

[wicked kiln]

Since when were mantis doomed yuri😭

[clear hornet]

anyways nkg is best boss of hollow knight tho

[terse nymph]

Mantis x grey mourner doomed yuri

This is canon

[clear hornet]

doesnt matter is hes easy or not

[terse nymph]

This is in fact real

Delicate flower questline is kinda annoying so imma vote on nailsmith nailmaster yaoi

[terse nymph]

They make a lil sculpture together and it’s cute

[wooden egret]

Nah imma just dreamnail her lover and vspirit nailsmith

[clear hornet]

what r u gonna say now " markoth is best boss"?

[wicked kiln]

No its GPZ

[clear hornet]

who is gpz

[wicked kiln]

Why do people say nkg is the best boss

[wooden egret]

The guy who falls on his ass for 3 minutes straight

[clear hornet]

cuz he is. peak design. fair difficulty. peak ost

[clear hornet]

huh

[wicked kiln]

You just explained gpz

[clear hornet]

soul master?

ohhhhh

grey prince

yea thats my #4

[terse nymph]

Gray Prince Zote? ZOTEBOAT?!

Yes we glaze Zote in these parts

[clear hornet]

zote is very fun fight

[wooden egret]

Nah that guy just say "hmmm hmmmm" and throws his head to the ground

[wicked kiln]

Always have been

[clear hornet]

zote isnt hard tho lmao

[wicked kiln]

Like its miles apart from the number 2 best fight zote is genuinely ahead of its time its a silksong level fight in hollow knight

And better than any silksong boss

Actually rivaling gabriel 2 from ultrakill

[terse nymph]

The hardest boss is obviously zote

Not Grey Prince Zote, just Zote

In the Colosseum

He’s so hard guys

[terse nymph]

Look bro, I don’t think I need to explain why his nail is called “life ender”

He truly is a knight of great renown

[wicked kiln]

Im such a chud i should quit hollow knight

I should search a new medium

[clear hornet]

tbh path of pain p4 p5 and absrad are only hard things in this game. rest is peice of cake

[wicked kiln]

Path of piss is easy

The game as a shole is easy

Until its not

Dumbass chud game

[clear hornet]

u should try sekiro bro if u think u r good at games

[tulip narwhal]

@storm flax Joinnn

[wicked kiln]

I am good timing based

But my pc is too bad to run sekiro

[clear hornet]

its the same genre...

hollow knight is also a soulslike

[wicked kiln]

Barely

You deadass cant compare them

[clear hornet]

we can

[wicked kiln]

2D with spells vs heavy 3D smash game

[clear hornet]

same respawn mechanic same checkpoint system. non linear progression, learn bosses etc

[clear hornet]

not every1 use spells in hk + all souls game have spells

[wicked kiln]

Not to extend of hollow knight

You like i said cant compare them

[clear hornet]

dude u know nothing

u have played 2 games and u talk like u r the all knower

[wicked kiln]

Hollow knight is a hybrid 2D platformer dark souls games are 3D ground based PvE games

[wicked kiln]

You are just not able to compare 3D and 2D

Like wtf

[terse nymph]

Hollow Knight metroidvania soulslike sounds about right?

[clear hornet]

there are over 400 spells in elden ring

[wicked kiln]

They are fundementaly not the same game

[clear hornet]

do u even know what souls like even mean

like srsly

[wicked kiln]

A game thats like a souls gamd

And its not that in mechanics but in lore and vibe

[clear hornet]

larpking over here

[wicked kiln]

So a soulslike isnt a game thats like a soulsgame

[clear hornet]

soulslike is a genre that was made after dark souls. it doesnt mean it need to be 3D and same vibes and lore. its about how the game works. like checkpoints, bosses, progression, difficulty

[wicked kiln]

"Look at this apple its a fruit like a pear so i can compare them"

It foesnt work like them

One being a 2D game and the other a 3D makes it completely diffrent

[clear hornet]

happy?

[wicked kiln]

You are deadass not attacking my point

You cant co.pare hhe difficuilty

Any way in trying to fails

[clear hornet]

u are bad with words

[wicked kiln]

I dont recalls you doing double jumps and pogos in any dark souls game

[clear hornet]

u should have said that hollow knight's difficulty is postioning dependant

and in 3d soulslike its just pattern based

[wicked kiln]

Weve been talking about difficuilty😭😭😭

[clear hornet]

yea and so i am

[wicked kiln]

Ive said hollow knight is a soulslike

[clear hornet]

yea it is

[wicked kiln]

Then i repeat the way how combat works is fundementally diffrent and cant even be the same since its dimensionally apart

And how the game plays is way too diffrent

[clear hornet]

no game can be compared if u get fixated on that point

[wicked kiln]

And thats the case there are people arguing if roblox or geometry dash is harder like we cant be deadass

[storm flax]

7:30 ish

[clear hornet]

2 games of same genre can be compared

[wicked kiln]

By what you define the genre a soulslike doesnt determine the combat system does it

[clear hornet]

actually hollow knight's mechanics are harder than any other souls game

its just the bosses are lowk easy here

u dont need to care about your postioning most of the time in games like elden ring sekiro darksouls

[wicked kiln]

Thats why we take pantheons and bindings into consideration to maximise the need for the mastering of the mechanics

Or also R5

[clear hornet]

pantheons is still not harder than elden ring's dlc's final boss

if choose not to cheese it

[wicked kiln]

Cheese how

[clear hornet]

elden ring is very flexible game. it allows u to over power yourself if u feel u got skill issue

u can one shot bosses there

[wicked kiln]

Then who determines whats underpowered and whats overpowered

[clear hornet]

u dont

u just know

[wicked kiln]

So the game has to be made difficuilt

By you holding back

[clear hornet]

no like u tell me.

[wicked kiln]

Not to get stronger

[harsh mantle]

Made it to Queens station

[clear hornet]

will u feel like u r in wrong place if u went to deepnest with no upgrades no charms

[frozen hull]

Scissor Seven PFP.

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/scissor-seven-cike-wu-liuqi-anime-seven-love-gif-1747475712085912722

[clear hornet]

u just u know when u r playing the game that u r overpowered or underpowered

nobody need to tell u

[wicked kiln]

Ive always felt wrong there cause it always molests you

[wicked kiln]

If you can get flexible to 1 damage to one shot you arent able to not really

[clear hornet]

dlc final boss is by far most gruesome difficulty ever. and almost everyone need to overpower to defeat him

[clear hornet]

it doesnt work llike that.

the game doesnt give u end game upgrades right before tutorial boss

[wicked kiln]

I can promise you its compared to many games skill ceillings piss easy even no hit ngl

[clear hornet]

u have played hollow knight only where even the hardest boss doesnt have more than 10 moves

[strong bobcat]

hey imagine if primal aspids did two damage

[formal ridge]

imagine if i did two damage

[wicked kiln]

Who told you i only played hollow knight tho

You kept making tht assumption

[clear hornet]

it seems like

[wicked kiln]

Are you saying im wrong

[clear hornet]

what

[wicked kiln]

Like mechanical im saying wtv zhe hardest boss in elden ring is is easy compared to most skill ceillings

[clear hornet]

wdym

by skill cielings

[wicked kiln]

How hard the hardest things in the games are

A skill ceilling say the hardest GD levwl

[supple olive]

Guys

How do I beat zote

Or sly?

[wicked kiln]

Gpz?

[wicked kiln]

Who now

[supple olive]

Hollow knight..

Pantheon three

[wicked kiln]

Son

[wicked kiln]

Yes the last boss?

Thats sly

[clear hornet]

it depends on opinion tho. cuz elden ring have MANY difficult bosses

[supple olive]

Yeah

[wicked kiln]

No its factually not opinions

[supple olive]

Any tips for zote

[clear hornet]

its not.

[silk cloak]

I know what i must do

[wicked kiln]

Zote or sly

[wicked kiln]

Yes how many attacks does the hardest boss have

[silk cloak]

I must go suffer through the watcher knights

[supple olive]

Zote

[wicked kiln]

So grey prince zote

What atatck does he hit you with the most

[grave lintel]

holy shit i just did sisters of battle hitless
but in p5 so it doesn't count lmao

[clear hornet]

20 main chains + 40-50 variations

[supple olive]

Yes who else the zote in Colosseum?

[wicked kiln]

Elaborate variations

[clear hornet]

umm

[wicked kiln]

Just say what attacks

[clear hornet]

like imagine a boss with a sword

[wicked kiln]

Ye

[clear hornet]

he have one main attack where he swings his sword forward

now he have 4 variations how he combos the chain

like he can follow it with a upslash or with a thrust

[wicked kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404521326240202828/1487337027535110224/togif.gif

Ive underestimated the complexity

[clear hornet]

not only that

[wicked kiln]

I gotta give you that

[clear hornet]

thats only in his first phase ig

his 2nd phase nukes the entire arena

and splash beams with each attack

[supple olive]

All..

[wicked kiln]

I still believe osu mania osu have a harder medium and geometry dash too

Like way harder

[harsh mantle]

Should I try to do the QGA skip?

[clear hornet]

do u want to see a sekiro's boss fight u will understand how complex theyre

[wicked kiln]

Not even funny harder

@clear hornet hardest fromsoftware game?

[clear hornet]

consort radahn imo

i died over 140 times to him

[wicked kiln]

Game

[clear hornet]

elden ring

[wicked kiln]

Overall or only the DLC

[clear hornet]

um

u talking it like smol thing

do u know the dlc is bigger like 80hr playtime

[wicked kiln]

Yeah uh

Whats the second hardest

Im not playing allat

I wanna prove a point but the point is not that deep

[clear hornet]

u dont have to.

elden ring isnt famous for its difficulty tho

[wary hound]

Some times when I look at my arms they look uncannily long and disproportionate to the rest of my body wtf

[wicked kiln]

I have to

Im tired of people telling mw i dont know real difficuilty

[gray rivet]

can we stop sending weird images

[wicked kiln]

Tell me the second hardest fromsoftware game

[wicked kiln]

?

[clear hornet]

do u wanna see me fight a boss which is considered hardest by many

[wicked kiln]

Sure

[gray rivet]

whats so confusing

[wicked kiln]

What images

[clear hornet]

i have a recording

can we send links here?

[wicked kiln]

Ye

[gray rivet]

the two you just sent

[tulip narwhal]

Yeah what the fuck

[clear hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JijKRIn4QFw&t=65s

[tulip narwhal]

Dont send ts in main

[wicked kiln]

I dont see the problem honestly

[wicked kiln]

Thats a tired ugly pink dog

[wicked kiln]

Thats a skull with eyes

[gray rivet]

yeah no one wants to see that

[tulip narwhal]

Yeah no one wants to see that

[clear hornet]

this is sekiro's final boss which is considered hardest boss ever by many ( ez for me tho 😉)

[wicked kiln]

These are just reaction images

[gray rivet]

yeah and they are kinda gross lol

[tulip narwhal]

They're still weird

[wicked kiln]

Yall are being childish ngl its deadass not that deep

[wicked kiln]

Looks very hard

Easy for me tho

[clear hornet]

its easy once u learn all the hundreds of moves yes 💀

this was like my 85th try

[wicked kiln]

Very tame

@clear hornet you should consider any radiance 1.0

[gray rivet]

not really its just not something pewople wanna see

[clear hornet]

im not done with absrad yet

[wicked kiln]

Its deadass not that deep💀

[wicked kiln]

Yeah but anyradiance

[clear hornet]

nah ill just play silksong

i have limited holidays

[wicked kiln]

Same

1week gone already

Such a chud life

[clear hornet]

i have entire resident evil series lined up to play

[tulip narwhal]

What is this argument lol

[wicked kiln]

You can go ahead and block me

[wicked kiln]

Sounds boring asf😭🙏

[harsh mantle]

... I am actually losing my mind because of Queens Garden

[wicked kiln]

Itll just get worse

[tulip narwhal]

You should still make it so people arent weirded out and have to block u lol

[clear hornet]

u gotta stop doing this

[wicked kiln]

You 2 are the only out of many that have been complaining

[wind garnet]

weird ahh dudes

[naive steppe]

i think you should ask someone who’s finished medschool already lol

[wicked kiln]

Stop what

[wind garnet]

hi yarn

[naive steppe]

hi sus

[torn geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1455795635482788015/1475015271285784606/IMG_2007.gif

[wind garnet]

rin you shouldnt be sending weird stuff man

[clear hornet]

disregarding other's taste

[gray rivet]

yeah i agree

[wicked kiln]

My bad if it offended you😅

[clear hornet]

resident evil doesnt sound boring at all

[clear hornet]

im not offended

[wicked kiln]

Is tired pink ugly dog that bad

[wind garnet]

its uncanny

[gray rivet]

its not just the dog lol the skull is kinda weird

[wind garnet]

yea

[tulip narwhal]

Yeah idk why you would post the skull

[clear hornet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/omni-man-wectie-wectiee-eCbY7Vj4XXXHCbw3Yi

[wicked kiln]

I really dont see it as uncanny or weird tbh udk where yall come from but sure if that many seem to complain

[clear hornet]

is this wierd? just in case

[wicked kiln]

@tulip narwhal my apologies @gray rivet my apologies @wind garnet my apologies

[tulip narwhal]

Its ok

[wind garnet]

all good gng

[gray rivet]

no worries

[clear hornet]

absrad is definitly hard

2nd phase is so luck based

[frozen hull]

@wind garnet @tulip narwhal

[tulip narwhal]

hi

[frozen hull]

Explodes you.

[wicked kiln]

Just admit it already

[clear hornet]

admit what

[wicked kiln]

Hollow knight is hard

[clear hornet]

one boss alone doesnt make entire game hard

[frozen hull]

HK is easy.

[clear hornet]

pantheons 5 is cheap diffculty

[frozen hull]

Skull emoji.

[wicked kiln]

The 3 messages just lined up perfectly to be perfectly skullable

[clear hornet]

just master all 'easy' bosses and defeat all them in a row without messing up to fight a actually hard boss

[wicked kiln]

Thats why bindings exist

To make it challenging

[clear hornet]

yea thats called cheap difficulty

[wicked kiln]

No theyre pretty creative

[clear hornet]

lmao

[wicked kiln]

I mean what more can you make bro spare hollow knight😭

[foggy sable]

"I think one type of game is easier than another that is why I argue based on a sample size of one without considering whether I'm just bad at them all"

difficulty is more than one factor

[clear hornet]

dw i dont hate hk its defo my top 10 games

[wicked kiln]

Saving silksong for the 1

[clear hornet]

ill see about that however i dont think silksong will have better iconic bosses than hk

nkg is just peak

[wicked kiln]

Does he know

[clear hornet]

they might be more difficulty

but i said iconic

[wicked kiln]

Im way too much of a silksong glazer compared to the playtime ratio

[wicked kiln]

I know

[clear hornet]

can your pc run elden ring?

[shadow talon]

The iconic boss you speak of is from a dlc

Let silksong release its dlcs first

[clear hornet]

nkg is dlc?

[wicked kiln]

Yes

[clear hornet]

ok so theres no peak boss in hk base game

haha

[bold rose]

Hi

[clear hornet]

wait no

[wicked kiln]

Absrad is a dlc too

[clear hornet]

is zote base game?

[wicked kiln]

Nh

[bold rose]

Gpz? No

[wicked kiln]

Pantheon version is

[shadow talon]

Not the boss zote

[bold rose]

Colo? Yes

[clear hornet]

grey prince zote

[shadow talon]

Dlc

[wicked kiln]

No

[bold rose]

Not base

[clear hornet]

ok so no peak base game boss

[wicked kiln]

Maybe youre the problem

[bold rose]

What do you even consider peak

[clear hornet]

whatever i actually enjoy

[bold rose]

You should try asc markoth

[clear hornet]

done

[bold rose]

Oh nice.

[clear hornet]

not a fan

i mean hes good

[bold rose]

How much radhog did you do

[clear hornet]

radhog?

[wicked kiln]

Hes ass

Like straight booty

[bold rose]

Radiant hall of gods

[wicked kiln]

Think everyone agrees on that

[clear hornet]

nah i like difficulty not torture

[bold rose]

But you did do asc markoth so

[clear hornet]

what is asc markoth?

ascended?

[wicked kiln]

Ascended

[clear hornet]

yea i have done it

[bold rose]

K

[clear hornet]

not radiant

[bold rose]

Ik

[wicked kiln]

Do you consider radiant

[clear hornet]

ew no

[wicked kiln]

Why

[clear hornet]

no point

[wicked kiln]

There is

???

[clear hornet]

not fun

[wicked kiln]

You get an journal entry

[bold rose]

Only 2 not done

[clear hornet]

couldnt care less

[wicked kiln]

How is this in your top 10 games

How much could you hate your top 11

[clear hornet]

vibes

[bold rose]

Thorns of agony

[foggy sable]

I'm going to skip the optional content and say it is easy is such a funny stance

[clear hornet]

why do u think a game have to be torturously difficult to be someone's favorite

[bold rose]

True!

[wicked kiln]

No but since we were talking avout difficuilty earlier

It seemed like youre a masochist type of gamer

[clear hornet]

hk is in my top 10 cuz its so peaceful and art is so cool

no im chill

i just like souls game a bit more

minecraft is harder for me than any gruesome modded souls boss

[wicked kiln]

Why

[clear hornet]

godbridge aint no joke

water mlg have shorter window than most difficult bosses's attacks 😭

[wicked kiln]

Pfft

Glad im a minecraft pfp pro

[clear hornet]

minecraft is my top3 game btw

[dusky coral]

Absolutely not

Water mlg is like the easiest shit

[harsh mantle]

Got Howling Wraith

[clear hornet]

i said it for dramatic effect

[dusky coral]

bad drama

[clear hornet]

cope

u almost crashed out

[wicked kiln]

Im crine

[dusky coral]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[clear hornet]

still minecraft's pro gameplay is harder than souls's pro gameplay

[wicked kiln]

Most things are

[trim schooner]

not comparable

[clear hornet]

real

[wicked kiln]

Fym real you earlier disagreed you cant compare a 2D and 3D game????????????

[trim schooner]

i doubt any minecraft pro can get even close to radianting 2.0 and justin h/shrubb can get even close to competing with top mc players

[wicked kiln]

Yo is this generational hate😭😭😭😭

[clear hornet]

not same genre dude

[dusky coral]

minecraft pro gameplay is just talking to children vro

[wicked kiln]

We still on difficuilty😭

[wicked kiln]

I guess bro

[clear hornet]

minecraft definitely most fun game tho

[wicked kiln]

While i on the other hand would go rel with minecraft pros osu pros and GD pros

[wicked kiln]

Nah

[clear hornet]

ig u never played it with friends

[wicked kiln]

😔

[clear hornet]

those two week phases are peak gaming

[foggy sable]

Crazy how people who specialise in one game and get really good at it are in fact good at it

No way

[clear hornet]

not fun

[wicked kiln]

Ive noticed tho

People who are like top 100 in one game

Will be good in another game in similiar medium

Just look at mrekk the best OSU player

He managed to clear the 21 hardest level in GD

[clear hornet]

i have seen CS pros clear angles in resident evil

thats so hilarious

[trim schooner]

yea lol

[wicked kiln]

Are there deadass clips

[trim schooner]

ive seen a cs pro 'jiggle peaking' (idk what that means but he looked stupid) a cave in minecraft

[clear hornet]

😂

minecraft mods are lowk peak

i played some random rpg story modpack and the story was lowk fire

[wicked kiln]

Finding some good horror mods are always peek

Good minecraft horror mods are seriously the best horror games out there

[clear hornet]

u mean heartattack mods

[wicked kiln]

Did you play trywheel of terror

[clear hornet]

they will just spawn a fucking demon's mutilated skull on all of your screen out of nowhere

[clear hornet]

no i havnt played many mods yet. ill soon

ill try RLcraft

first

[wicked kiln]

Gotta try trywheel of terror lowkey

Gotta find the file somewhere online tho

It got taken off of forge

[clear hornet]

wtf

this is lowk hell

disturbing ahh

[wicked kiln]

Gives the worst jumpscares i ever had

[clear hornet]

horror games are fun with friends

alone is just scary

[vivid drum]

feels good to watch an online friend start hollow knight for the first time

especially if you were the one who gifted them this game

[wicked kiln]

Shits terrifying

[tulip narwhal]

Among us is peak art im obsessed

[harsh mantle]

At Hornet 2, wish me luck

[zinc iris]

Gl

[harsh mantle]

... How many times do I need to stun Hornet during the second fight?

[cunning fulcrum]

Then they leave the game

[rich stone]

Stuns depend on the number of hits not the amount of damage you deal

[harsh mantle]

Ok

I'm not sure my build is ready for this

Spell Twister, Shaman stone and the compass

I also have sharpened Nail, S soul, D Dive and H Wraiths

[clear hornet]

but the memories are permanent

[clear hornet]

dont care about those thing. just focus on learning the boss

just keep clearing her spikes and you can easy no hit her

[harsh mantle]

Ok

[rich stone]

Ddark spam is super good against Hornet 2

[harsh mantle]

Don't have that, I only have Desolate Dive

[rich stone]

It's still useful if you want some Iframes

[humble dock]

what is ddark rvro?

dawg if i die with fragile strenght the charm is no longer useable?

[rich stone]

Decending Dark

[rich stone]

You can repair them at Leg Eater

[foggy sable]

It does cost geo though

[harsh mantle]

... I keep dying ;-;

[foggy sable]

You should get some more upgrades

If dying is the issue

[trim schooner]

yo grey does shriek spam with shaman do more dps than nail turning with strength

[foggy sable]

idk

I don't look at numbers

[trim schooner]

fair enough lol

[foggy sable]

So you know the time abyss shriek takes?

[humble dock]

what tf is that/

[foggy sable]

I think abyss shriek is similar to optimal nail turnarounds maybe slightly lower dps

[humble dock]

how to get

[trim schooner]

not sure

[trim schooner]

ahk thx

[foggy sable]

For what boss do you need the info?

[trim schooner]

collector, tl, white defender, during scream skip

[foggy sable]

Take a peek at the pantheon part of 112 speedruns imo

[trim schooner]

like assume i have max soul

[humble dock]

white defender????

[trim schooner]

wouldn't they be using fury though?

[foggy sable]

Not in 112