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I just beat the game in my head
Died to watcher knights twice
Every other fight was hitless
112% nail 0 btw
but yeah I don't have to "play it" I can run a mental simulation of the game
nail upgrades count as 4%
100% accuracy
watcher knight was a pain but surprisingly I managed figure out it's moveset and it was a lot easier
specifically the bouncing patters
You were supposed to infer what I did was do all of 112% except nail upgrades fr
thats how nosses work i believe
in the base game you can eliminate one early if you know what to do
Was trying to m ake it clear I did everything
Oh actually @verbal pasture do you wanna bing today
but you didnt ypgrade your nail
it doesnt change speeds while bouncing, always bounces three times
Oh and p5 nail 0 al bindings I did hitless too
Watcher knights were tough tho
so not everything
you can even use this kinda knowledge to focus
Not available
Gg
my dog has decided she owns my lap
what kind
watcher was my last dreamer
originally it was gonna be the first but I gave up fighting the watcher knights
Roma everyone who rejects to do bingy with you hates you and is evil remember
Nah
I thought that was cat behavior
no mods for bingy sry
and small dog ig
They're not just "busy doing personal things", they're combining harmful manipulation tactics, dark psychology, and gaslighting to create an illusion in your mind of true friendship -- while they clink glasses together and talk behind your back.
do they always say this
what if they cant mod their device with QoL and other bingy mods
True choom and levi are busy playing bingy with EACH OTHER guh
That sounds kinda long
uhh why did you get a language warning
You're right! I think you've cracked the code here. The best ways to test this would be; asking them key questions that hint at modding but not directly proving it, checking their gameplay for "fragments" of video editing, or checking their steam page to see if it says they're active. In the end, you'll be the one on top -- and they'll be wishing they played with you.
It was just a major curse so yeah
bruh
W
Yeah cool now do god tamer
Try soul master
That's exactly what it must be! The best course of action would be to confront them directly. When you're ready; study up on friendship books like "how to be kind, by Connor Lee Gregory" for tips on how to make them wish they were playing with you -- or GO ALL OUT and kill them with swords.
Also I rely heavily on spells when I oppose God Tamer
First Radiant boss I ever did
what if they just say they dont want to?
Does that make them fake friends or honest?
Then I did Soul Tyrant, then both Grimms
Soul Master/Tyrant was my favorite boss at the time
I don't wanna try to type like a shitty ai assistant anymore it's draining
I mean you can just pogo god tamer all the time
bit over
fair
my sister got hollow knight for christmas but she didnt let me play it (going through angsty teen phase) so i took it from her and played it, without her knowing
now im playing silksong without her knowing
hehe
You are a Hero
idc how good hk is thats like kinda rude
i disagree too
save zote for her lmao
I gave hollow knight back after i was done
I had 3 older siblings and I think that's just how it is fr
Share or learn how sharing is
Okay now I'm fighting White Defender on Radiant mode
you know what would be evil
Although to be fr they would steal my shit without asking the first time
White Defender is the hardest White boss for me and it often ends my P5 runs
bro my sister has been pissing me off the past 5 years constantly and thats still not a line i will cross
banishing Grimm troupe on her main save
She didnt even get there yet she reset because she was scared of tje Shade
are you the older one or the younger oen
One*
gng
Old
twins
wd is not that hard
Are you well off or kinda poor
I feel like I'm too reckless against White Defender lol
I think if yall r well off I'd get not sharing more
compared to what?
Cuz you can just have what you want
I haven't even beaten it on Ascended mode it seems
"White bosses" wild
Like if your sister has a game and you want the game cany ou just get it
It's on Team Cherry for naming a boss White Defender
both wild
thats not really an issue
our interests differ so wildly it doesnt matter
he white
Growing up we all shared games and the console and the tv so I just can't imagine like not sharing anything
and he defend
I mean hell obviously you wouldn't steal a game from her to play it then
I have a seperate switch lite so she still doesnt know
wait
she doesnt even know
fair enough
just put the card into yours and return when done
Yea
all she ever plays is animal crossing ๐ญ
animal crossing in hk when
there are a bit of opportunities
Which character would become a villager
the final boss is tom nookโs home loans
if you have shade cloak you can do wd
oh no
uh wow it is
hmmm
I think the only time I deadass stole something (which I still feel bad for) was I went to my buddy's house
And was there for like the whole summer
And FOR WEEKS there was this fucking 20 on the ground no one touching it
And bro i fr did take it
Then I spent 5 of it on a yugioh pack and felt guilty and gave 15 back to him "as a gift"
isela
PAY 10000000 GEO OR DIE
I think he knew fr
why
who leaves a twenty
idk temptation
I ONLY HAVE 5000
YOU CHIOSE DIE
I just beat Soul tyrant!
gng
thats pretty cool
bro i wouldโve taken that without hesitation
youโre a better person than i an
ggs now kill @unique wolf
THE SOUL TYRANT
you killed A soul tyrant
NOOOOOOOOO
now kill THE soul tyrat
I'm still an evil thief who took 5 bucks
I took a whole 2-3 weeks to beat The Soul Tyrant lol
Because I was intentionally playing against it when I was way too weak
I'm not killing him
gng it takes my friend 2-3 weeks to beat soul MASTER
ykw fuck you im calling the authorities
Love your name
I actually screamed and disturbed my entire household when I finally beat Soul Tyrant. It was easily the most memorable part of my HK playthrough
soul tyrant is not that bad with nail 1 and 6 masks
lmao
Ty :>
bro
i did ts first try what is your friend on?
I found PV and got assassinated in p4
Perfect name to see defending super earth
shaman stone and shade soul i forgot to mention
omg
my routing is certainly a route
Yes I love are planet super earth :>
BALDUR SHELL STORAGE IS A THING???
routing ๐ฅ
excuse me what
I went to city of tears this way bye
if the nail is your power what r u without it๐ค๐ค
a vessel
I was Baldur flickering on Sly's phase transition, and his scream stun locked my Baldur Shell in activation
His hit activated the Baldur Shell
bye?
I was able to move like nothing happened, but I had the shell active
the way
yo
I just fucking pulled off Baldur Shell storage by complete accident
gng
if a vessel is your power what r u without it๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
Dude that caught me so off guard
I'm not even gonna question it
such a shame you cant start pv with enough soul to activate this glitch
shade
I genuinely just like coughed like I had just inhaled something, that shocked me so hard
if your power is hallownest what r u without it?๐ค๐ค๐ค
is this how major glitches are discovered?
I mean shit I guess
bum boss
Lemme get a clip rq
Though I took three hits and that's three too many for the Radiant version
Since you are a goated person, tell me: whoโs your fav hk boss?
why do you change your name like every 2 days
opsec
Bit of an exaggeration, but good question
Fuck if I know man
Troupe master, nightmare king, or both?
fair enough
gotta go
Both
My fav is either lost kin or collector
Whatโs wrong with my picks?
theyre goated dont
Nothing :<
Surely the crime has like expired now I was in middle school and I'm a grown man
listen to grimm lovers
gorb.
no debate needed.
gorb is the best boss ever.
Okiii :3
:>
If that were true your name and pfp would be gorb
I don't think you REALLY believe he's the best boss ever
You can hold it while jumping? Had no idea fr
Least fav boss? (excluding dream warriors cause those are unanimously bad)
No, it was storaged
It's not meant to work like that
Soulwarrior
U haven't fought those
Oh dang I was like shit there's some cool tech I didn't know
I'm sum what new
Can you do that at will
no correlation
Ohhhh mb
Name ten correlations
It's ok :<
Okii :3
It involves having control locked (like in a scream skip) while activating Baldur Shell at the same time as your control gets locked
im saying there is non so your question makes no sense
Nifty
I don't think you understand it if I'm being fr
understand what
See
Sending u a friend request cause ur js goated
just saying shit
Aaawwwww ty :>
Whatever you say man
yap
Shrieking White Defender will never not be gratifying
IMO its so rarely effective
It destroys the poop
-# ๐
If you do it as he's coming up it destroys ALL of them and hits him a bunch
It's great
if you deadass have problems dodging the poop thats a skill problem๐ญ
Babe!
just go in corner
it's not a problem I have but it hits him a bunch with the highest damage spell and destroys all of the poop as it spawns when he jumps out
It's like clearly the intended thing for you to do and calling it rarely effective is silly
calling shriek ineffective and then telling other people they have a skill problem is crazy
-# ello hru 
Lolol
When he jumps out of the ground, it's just a free full hit if you're close enough
Good thx! U?
theres a reason i said rarely
And considering phase 2's transition, seems pretty effective
just heal after poo dive
you aint gotta heal most of the time tho
-# im ok tyfa

I'm a nail guy unless I'm a spell guy
its a much more foreseeable hit than other r5 stuff
If u use soul eater u can get a lot of damage during his dung barrage
yeah but I suck
Nah he's a hard boss I probably suck more
how sucky
Every time he jumps out of the ground you know where he's coming up and if you get beside him and shriek as he does it hits him a bunch and no poop comes out
It's a really easy to replicate strat that helps fr
-# dw im probably worse lol
Idk I died to failed champion in p5 ๐
Have them on radiant btw ๐ ๐ ๐
i mean like I'm god tamer took me a day
imo i think its just a preference thing when i do r5 runs i resort to trying to get double spirit hits or overall use spirit i dont like shriek as it leaves me vulnerable
I died to failed trying to to cheese
grub
-# 
just nerves

i lost to pure vessel cuz he fell on me when i stunned him
I have a skill issue on gpz I dont even have him on ascended but have soul tyrant and nkg on radiant
beat him on radiant btw

how
It doesn't leave you vulnerable if you just know when to use it in the fight
It's hk you can respond to each move with like a strat that works every time fr
Obv you know in like traitor lord white defender hornet both guardians obbles if on left side soul master left side flying dream warriors fluke marm radiance nkg etc that shriek is op and you can use it to respond to at least a specific repeatable scenario with no risk cuz that's like how the combat is in this game
I hate when that happens idk why its happened to me so much
1 pixel too close
i find GPZ to be very easy once you know him hes my favorite boss most people have problems on him
NO HE ISNT
who's gpz
whos gpz
His attacks are NOT balanced
Those r all great examples of a super repeatable helpful shriek being doable that isn't risky at all and white defender is just another one of those fr
grand prince zote
it is
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THAT FATTY ALWAYS MAKES ME CRASH OUT
hes very reaable and predictable
gross putrid zote
yeah that's why he falls over ๐ค
idk what everyone has
This is a W take from the anti shrieker
oh zote i never fought him
Heavy respect the gpz love
one thing that helps is (im not sure if this applies if you are near a wall) but if you stand next to where wdfender jumps out in phase 2, wd wont hit you
His falling from the ceiling or maggot zotes are way easier than say his nail thing or ground pound or smth but I mean I suck at the game
Never saved Zote so idk what yall are talking about
tbf gpz makes you pay more attention to where he is landing and your positioning etc. nkg is literally just do the same counter to each attack every time and that's 99% of the fight
doesnt change that shriek leaves you unmoveable for very long = vulnerable and i still prever spirit
Well but like idk that's just odd to me as a way to view it it's hk the boss does the same thing every time you like know where the boss is gonna be they fr sit still too
Like is it really vulnerable
If in that time frame you know the boss won't move
And is in an attack
And you're safe
yeah nah i dont know what you mean i see all of his attacks as spontanious but still predictable and reactable if you know what to do
missing out on a peak fight
good point still wd is in motion attacks fly around i rather give him 3 nail slashes than an abyssal shriek since i also miss them sometimes
And depending on my mood he's been my #1 a few times
top 1
always been 1
you gain movement before he even lands tf u on abt
probably theyre worried about him deciding to do spikes immediately
absoulute zote and pure zote also top 1 bosses besides any zote he a bum
I think rn my favorite to pick up the game and randomly fight is absrad but it is like
The better i am at hk at the moment the more I enjoy gpz so it's probably just rust has given me a lack of true zote understanding and I'd need to lock in to remember why he was my favorite for so long
for p5ab shriek 80 damage versus SS 30/60 or some shitty nail hits shriek is the best by a huge margin. if u have 32 damage qs nail hits it's more comparable to a 120 damage shriek and obviously any vulnerability on r5 is spooky
might be didnt play in a while still i prefer not to use it idk why everyone is so hostile towards my playstyle i know what im doing
I don't think anyone was hostile towards your playstyle it was the silly things you said
That were like factually wrong
im over p5ab im not doing it again so idgaf about it im currently only interested in r5 and i like it to play very safe but also quick
you said it was rarely effective
like how
yeah and thats true the only time you use abysall shriek is when he jumps out the ground
and we are clowning on you for calling 120 free dmg rarely effective
thats 1 instanc
I've responded each time you've said something wrong I'm not gonna go back in time and restart the conversation with you fr
from many instances
and its all we were talking abt from the beggining
yeah and how does that attack the fact that there is only 1 instance in wd from 10 instances that makes it an rare usage on wd
at least six times per fight
Yk it's funny how easy Radiant AbsRad is for me now, having beaten it Charmless
he uses ground burst
the vulnerable part is not wrong tho if you are immobile and stuck at one place you are vulnerable even if youre not in danger you are vulnerable
After trying anyrad 1.0 absrad is a joke
give me all where you full hit him
Truuue
Still haven't beaten AnyRad yet
Same ๐ญ
3 hits is the same damage as a SS double hit
its not that hard to full hit him
every time
actually more with shaman stone iirc
yeah give me 6 examples
90 vs 80
sure let me record ts
without bindings you can kill him before he finishes his scripted leaps out of the ground in p2
with his attuned hp in pantheon, anyways
he always has 1600
that one is impossible
this can be done overworld, ascended and radiant as well
ill wait
has to be 6 instances of you full hitting him where he doesnt jump out of the ground without getting hit
nice so it's always doable
tf?
?
if he jumps out the ground thats an attack
he has over 6 attacks
if you can fully hit im on only 1 attack
thats one instances out of over 6 where you can affectively use abyssal shriek
so its rarely affective
but there are at least six instances of that happening
no im talking about seperate attacks
free 720 damage
ive been taslking about seperate attacks
1/10 is not rare
if it doesnt go higher it is compared to the 10
fine im going to calculate how much sgriek damage i get over the first 1000 hp
and lowk I also shriek the dung balls that he throws o be safe and to make juggle easier if he allows for i
compared to 1/100 its not but if only 1/10 exists its rare
thats a thing i didnt know about lol but tbh very smart
id give it 2 instances then ngl
if you get behind him when he throws does he turn or keep throwing?
why? so youur saying a coin landing on heads is rare because 1/2 iss rare compared to the two?
ig the anim isnt that long anyways]
no if the shriek isnt max damage sealing and it damages you its not affective
PV FLASHBANGED ME
i usually just whirlwind for full damage and then accept i will get hit by a ball like 1/6 of the time
Dude, I was waiting for the screen to fade to white, not fuckin flashbang me like I'm playing COD
this is 50% the 1/10 is 10%
10% ca stretch to massive lengths
i got 180 damage thats still quite a lot
in one shriek?
rare - greafer
and thats bcs i suck it shouldโve been 240
yeah but your saying 10% here is equivalent in rarity to 1% somewhere else because wd only has 10 "instances" which im not even sure of
in 2 before he croaked
dodging them in context of him jumping out he is saying when he throws 3 balls
cant cut out context
uhh what?
hi nadia
๐ญ
thats the wrong attack
๐๐ฝ
.
hes saying when he throws 3 balls and turns into a ball
in this image i was talking about when he jumps out the ground
2 completely diffrent attacks
hihi I got like no prog on acheron today hru
connor send the screenshot
are you dumb?
he sends a screenshot with cut out context
ive never attacked what i praised chomp for
OF WHAT???
WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABT GROUND BURST
of me saying being hit by the balls of dung defender when he jumps out is a skill probelm
no chomp brought up when wd threw 3 balls
arent you tracking
.
WAS THAT NOT WHAT CONNOR WAS REFFERING TO?
DID I MISS SOMETHING?
holy i missed something
๐ญ
mb
no i said chomp was smart for destroying the 3 balls so he can safely pogo wd up without being hit and then inserted screenshot of me ssaying its a skill problem being hit by an completely diffrent attack
yeah mb i missed that
im still gonna clown on you for calling shriek rarely effective tho
back to this we take 100% as the toal max right here is the problem as to when WE cross the line on whats rare id say its rare if its unlikely to happen id say its unlikely if undfer 50 and likey if over 50
so in this situation we have to determin where we draw the line from non rare to rare
@honest shale
why did i get individually pinged?
im not the only one arguing
since i read you clwoning me for saying smth
this is a very poor definition of rare and leads to problematic and misleading conclusions
damn bad luxk
i determine rare as unlikely to happen in the fight
last I checked someone choosing rock in rock paper scissors isnt considered rare
good argument ngl
and wd always does phase 2 so theres guaranteed to be a shriek opportunity or several there

also good argument
at least 6
if you didnt kill him before that
depending on attacks since its 20% i guess i in my humble view would still say using it on attacks is rarely affective i wont retract that but if we move on and consider how often that 10 % of the 20 happen it shoots up like a rocket
so considering the accurance of the attack
it is very common
yall won ngl
but only looking at the numbers i consider 10% or maybe even 20% to be rare
not to continue this argument, im cutouys as to hiw many times on average he ground bursts per fight
so ima test it
gottas be over 10
(excluding last phase obviously)
I WON!
so i have to retract my argument still saying smth happening 10 time garuanteed can be considered rare is very dishonest from my side
It only took me about an hour, but the Radiant White Defender is now dead!
Now that I've spent so much time learning this guy's ins and outs, I might stand a chance against P5!
Ima do ten fights and average that
either way spirit > shriek
Yay I nohit all phases but the 1st
of empress of light
what version
just the vanilla
the so called absrng
what
Da Moff
absrad
however you like to call her
why tf do you call absrad empress of light
thats a terraria boss
but they're so similar so it fits
and obv in a HK chat I wouldn't talk abt a Terraria boss
they would
Oh wait hold on goober I didn't know you took it that way I thought you understood what I meant
The thing you were supposed to pay attention to was me telling you "it destroys the poop" and you responding to it directly
The thing I attached the screenshot of you doing that to was you saying "that's a thing I didn't know about! Lol! But that's very smart" when chomp told you you can destroy the poop
The joke I was making was that I absolutely told you it destroys poop just a bit ago and you're now acting as tho you had no idea it could do that fr
i know that convo was over but I thought you knew what my joke was at least fr
I was picking on you being forgetful fr
Hi
I think Ze'mer is gonna be for next next week
The focus wasn't like you calling that one thing super easy to dodge
And saying you have a skill issue
yea like i said destroying the poop in context of the dung defender comming from the ground since you have to stand still to dodge it if he throws it you have to be in motion so again not comparable
Which is harder
damageless Low% or Damageless TE
Alright bucko well I hope you got the joke this time fr
what joke
i repeat the context is important you cant compare the poop from him comming out of the ground and when he throws and while you pogo him on you
yeah everything you said there was just repeating of you ignoring the context
"It destroys the poop"
I tell him again and again and again
"B-But I didn't know that the poop coming from the sky and the ground was the same"
POOP IS POOP SIR
Results were 2,4,3,2,2,4,4,2,2,3 with an average of 2.6 ground bursts per fight
not including last phase
no since i said its a skill issue cause you have to stand still to dodge poop in the other instance you have to be in motion
OMG AND I SAID I WASNT PICKING ON YOU FOR THAT LIKE FIFTY TIMES I JUST GAVE YOU A SCREENSHOT OF ME SAYING THAT AND I HAD JUST TOLD YOU TWO SECONDS AGO
Omg I'm so dumb
those are stats of what?
no youre just waffling about random shit
I fr had no idea
i deadass cant have a normal convo with you
amt of ground bursts in white defender
i have been able to have a normal convo with the others and i even agreed they were right
bcs we were arguing abt shriek usefulness earlier
Yeah yeah man I get it I appreciate your ragebait
youre just wafling and saying half finished shit and not adressing anything
ground burst is when he lurks+bursts out? Or slams the ground and sends a shorter shockwave?
if you wanna be that ignorrant and cope so bad thats fine just shut up already
Lolol
tbf i dont think a single person thought you were joking when you sent that
pahse 1 right
yes
i often killed him before all 6 happened
we had a whole convo where I didn't make a joke then way later I made like two bits about it with crying emojis and all I explained was that he missed hte point one of those times
It's not that deep
He keeps trying to like harken back to the original argument but I am not doing that and don't care fr
did anyone else think it was a joke?
talking just to talk
You had responded to me and I hadn't seen it
And iny our response you fully misinterpreted me
So I felt the need to explain it to you
kinda off topic
but I'm 90% sure that soul tyrant/master (I think tyrant) has a funny visual bug
and that you can make one of the Defenders skip his 2nd battlecry entirely
yeah and youre not doing it cause it destroys youre point cause its all about the original argument and youre openly ignoring it and cherry picking not seeing the whole
Omg because I'm not arguing with you

yeah dung defender has little enough hp to just skip it
an argument is an exchange of opositting views thats what we did
it was ana rgument
then what the fuck are you doing
not that he dies
I've managed to have the guy stagger just right, and in effect the battlecry sound would play, but he'd stagger instead (which is a mini bug)
true
@quartz cave hi
oh thats neat
I think that brick wall encompasses this whole conversation
still only dung defender bcs white defebder doesnt stagger
Dung defender more like stupid defender
Which means you can skip the long wait without damage tanking
but you said that it's possible to just kill him fast enough instead...
at least he could accept he was wrong
yes
hi
400 damage is shockingly easy to deal
Hi oswald hru
if you affectively deal amage and know how to hollow knight feels weirdly too easy than when you started off
hiii im doing well wbu
like the bosses just melt
I am at peace with the universe atm
like i can beat pv in 17 seconds
that feels illegal
what version
I once beat pv in 0 seconds
current patch
btw fun fact:
as soul tyrant does his 6 orbs attack, in the 2nd part of it
he does in fact return with the orbs, just invisible+invincible
this doesn't apply to soul master though...
i mean attuned and shit
oh yeah attuned
Omg that's nifty
Is it like an invisible hit box people have tracked to find that out or something
to check out for youself, just equip elegy
and spam the beams around where he should be until you get it
Omg that's cool asf
ui also did one ascended once i tried an hour and 26s was the best i got in 1hour its poorly optimised imma send it in a minute
ascended us only like 6 more hits
Hola
Yeah buts the extra HP still makes it slower
hi yato
Its why pv speedrunning does so on 5 hp attuned
ofc it does but in theory only by 2 seconds

3 but yes
it's faster to kill attuned than ascended? I'd figure faster fury would make a greater difference...
i cant type
Its 1 hit on both, you run 5 mask OC on attuned so the 4 damage gets you to 1
right I forgot overcharm
so attuned is just a bit less hp?
Yee
is stallwart ran?
What does ur bio mean?
No why should it be
Alright this is good
the nit difference is very small
I've beaten both Defenders on Radiant now
is 250 hp 3 seconds?
It should be 150 no
23 radiant bosses done now. Idk how many are left by that count
sorry
Its a.. bio?
idk pv hp values
it is not one hit per second its like 3
Which should be about 3 hits with fury
Alright, so I've done more than half of them
But like, what do most of the words there mean?
@zealous skiff
Still not sure how I'll ever do Markoth or Zote
@naive dew
Better if you look it up ya self :3
nice
Oh alright then, thx for the help
im going to have to go outside soon i hate going outside guhh
true hk player
could a few nail cancels be implemented? like on pillars?
why cancel nails
or wdym
ohhhh
like the trick to attack faster
by cancelling the nail animation, by turning around
yeah ofc i dindt once nail cancel which is horribly poorly optimised
you should nail cancel at any possible given moment to even attack
Suscats video naming scheme is ragebaiting me wheres the attuned wr smh
oh it's your run? I thought it was some leaderboard run for reference
no what do you even know the peak of humans in hk im a speck of piss compared to rpos
nail cancelling is leike a 10% attack speed increase at the cost of miss 1 or 2 slashes and the benefit of cnancels is completely undone
Yeah no idea anyway yes you can and should turnaround on pillars
hk pros < terraria pros
but I don't know how to wr runs look in HK, so how could I tell
Fastest rng is no pillars actually iirc but pv running is also just rng reset hell so meh
I think upslash negates that if you position precisely
not comparable ngl one is a bullet hell
Ok js read up on them, theyโre all valid except for the first. Material possessions over emotional connections?
Thumbnail by @talezshadid
One milestone closer to reaching day 1000, and I will say that I do feel that my days are numbered. At least the enjoyment and skill limit are getting to their peak.
As for the record run, I can see myself beating this time, but I donโt know how much faster or if I could do it again. I will say that this run is imp...
whatre the opttimal pv attacks now?
Ngl i have no idea, i just think i remember no pillars being fastest
always been and will be the orb ngl
hmm good run
idk why dreamshield exactly...
extra damage
the run is set on highest possible dps
qof has no reason to be there
and shield deadas gives more dps so
I do still wonder if the extra damage actually counteracts having to ddark focus
but it's so little... I'm sure something else would be better, like even a mop, even gwomb...
The only other real option is baldurs funnily enough
no
yeah but the best run is no parry from pv
Not for parry, for focus
hiii
ohhhhh yeah
Im not sure whats mathematically better tho, you lose damage on focus but it might be counteracted by the dshield damage
what do yall think of white defender
Yeah, if you get really really good at it its faster
dumb
he should have less hp :v
I think if you took a moment to position the ddark, the damage would be a tiny bit better no?
or stagger
take me forever in ab
he has so many heal openings it's not even dangerous just long fight
dung is easier but not really fun
i actually like DD because u can stunlock him so much it's funny
true
heal in the corner while he's not actively attacking you (e.g. throwing balls, lurking, bouncing)
it has good success rate
stagger from ddark then cyclone and he staggers again
Just from feeling i would think you could get off 2 nailhits but i am not sure framedata wise
oooh ok I'll try that
then he goes back underground and you ddark again.. and you cyclone and he staggers again... then hes dead
I bet he is one of the harder rad
generally both defenders are kind of countered by corner of the room
The last time i actually actively ran PV at all was like 4 years ago, ive just been involved in the theory crafting a bit afterwards
and even then i dipped after maybe 2 hours of attempts at max because that shit is not fun
also would it be practical to skip bindings on p2 and do p3 if I did p1 already, or do you think its a bad idea
practical for what purpose
I just find p2 so boring
p3 is harder than p2 by a lot yes
hi bye i gtg
xero/oblobbles/nosk boring
if u want max lifeblood u wanna do p1-p4 with every binding iirc. or i guess yo ucould do p5 instead of p2 (lol)
I mean I could do ab all at once but eh
thats harder lmao
I really enjoy fighting troupe now
idk I find p3 fun especially zote
Bug caught in 4k
the second time I reached sly I beat him and didn't even do much in hog
elegy lol
now that I don't see much
I liked elegy in colo3
should be better framerate
crazy bug
how many times do i need to attack old man
who tf is old man
who?
gerson
why would you attack him
yes
you can either use rude buster
or just attack himhe wont end until he does his alast attack
I'm so confused
Poor bug
what attack?
its a spin attack you have to go in a circle while he attack from up to left to bottom to right back to up
like sans and his burst
rory knight
why are you fighting gerson
bc
Do you know how to shrogo
shroom pogo?
Shriek pogo
kinda but i can't do it
wait idek who gerson is lmao
great bug
on tier with dung defender battlecry stagger skip
is that the old man in dirtmouth
Hello everyone
โฆ is that the actual name


It's the descriptive name
it's the bug that allows you to skip Dung Defender's 2nd battlecry by staggering him at the right moment
Ik the bug
But is that the actual name
Bc it sounds like you made it up because you donโt know the actual name
i need an opinion
Idk if there's a special name for that bug
?
should i speedrun pv more
Yes
elderbug?
I didn't "make it up"
I simply used descriptive name as I don't know of any real name for it

i do believe thats the definition of making up
Shut up you know what I meant
i lowk thought that was a beard before
LMAO
Ohh okay if so you say
what?
Bread
technically every name is made up
Lmao is a Chinese hacker
he works with a Korean guy Lmfao and others
What about Lmbao?
There were 3 bugs mentioned: elderbug, Dung Defender battlecry stagger skip, and Soul Tyrant hitbox lingering
no I meant this comment
wb lmhao
what old man
"and others"
ah
Most productive #hk-discussion
what did you honestly expect
who tf is gerson lmao
How tf is this guy
deltarune ch4 boss
Same xD
HIW MANY DAMN 20 SECOND PURE VESSELS AM I GONNA GET
I DONT LIKE BEING GOOD AT THIS GAME
PV > NKG
Any rad>inf
inf?
Infinity
uhhh
Boundless infinity
let me google
The hollow knight pure vessel mod
its a mod of pure vessel
I don't play mods let me see
you dont say?
lmao
As the author, I do have a relatively good understanding of the mod mechanism
This one is from the creator of the mod
oh
I am absolutely in love with this
i fear infinity players arent sane
although i cant speak i speedrun pure vessel
@honest shale gn sir
anyone got good strategies for jonis dark room
hope to god
or buy lantern
probably not going to cut it
I wish that was an option
Thats not fast enough. people like choom and throwout will already have completed half the board by then!
oooh bingy practice
yea i got nothing
Germinally just keep attacking and rude bustering. Your heal also improves slightly everytime you use it
stop having an identity crisis
Type shit that happens when you try to reach hornet 2 as your first boss
what
huh
Chicken butt
๐
Weโre lying for fun
like legit just for the love of the game
this is like telling me to choose like
im trying to think of another person on the same level as hitler cuz I was gonna say making me choose between hitler vs x guy
touch grass
stalin
mao zedong 
Women
not funny enough
bro
Firered im gonna kill you!!!!! we are not like hitler!!!!!
thats such a w idea
i miss women
But unfortunately yes I will be forced to agree
tf is going on
league is in fact better than anybad
omg sonia is a league fan ๐ฅณ
Aight letโs not get too ahead of ourselves
oh uhh oswald said league is better than anyrad
notice how itโs cropped
the evidence presents itself
visibly so
cool
literally no crop
Sonia threatens to kill me every other time I interact with her


notice how little it changes in the context of this conversation?
it changes a LOT
I got you osbald
soooooooo how tf do you do this dashless
uhm
really fucking hard fireball skip
thanks twin i knew i could depend on u
or just do crossroads stallball
Incredibly based
Anybald
Do know youโre making me like order the garbage tier for media tho. this shit doesnโt matter cuz itโs all irrelevant
@keen thorn tomorrow is the last day of uni for me
option a) triple fireball for the skip
b) just say that the skip is possible, try 10 times and use float
but its mad funny
I'll probably switch to electronic engineering tbh
good idea to study maths on uni? or it?
Imo depends on prof
Good math professors are hard to find here but are worth
oh my god i hate grinding so much
i need 12,000 geo and i get like 5-50 every enemy
watchers spire grinding is so fast
these knight guys give alot of geo though like 100
Grinding what
farm colo
you can redo colloseum?
Yea
unbreakable health
colo 2 actually slower than spire
shi im gonna do that
fair
why is path of pain first room so hard?
every room after is harder btw
wsg yall
idk but i find the other rooms easier
also its path of pain what did you expect
how
idk
i have the feeling stall ball in forgotten crossroads into fungal would be easier
like its anoying to struggle on the first room and not in the others
it is like pixel perfect tho
it would be
I suck at switching directions in queer's station
thats also really fuvking hard
butvits skill based
stall ball is entirely luck
did first room
whats stall ball
glitch
yah but whats the glitch
i do believe i have a recording of it
you fireball directly into a slope and it slowly descends instead of disapearring
letting you pogo it
yall know the queen garden frame perfect
when u enter from fog canyon
im thinking of queens station
oh yah i do
mostly small ones afaik
i got a stall ball clip
some big guys like the crystals crawlers with hard shells
it does demonstrate the glitch
coulld yall imagine playing hk with lag?
i got that clip on switch 1
with like .2 second input lag
is your pc a potato?
maybe
hell yeah nkg in the tent first try
it was an in tents battle
qslash strength and mop (grimmchild was mandatory ofc)
now im gonna go beat radiance in black egg for the acheivement then start grinding the pantheons
im back at 107% on my new file and i dont even have godtuner lmao
what charm build is good for collosium?
almost anything with nmg
i mostly use my go-to charms
long nail, quick slash, shaman stone
same as mine but replace grimmchild by catcher
why nmg?
aspid ohkos
just tank and heal after
great slash one shots pretty much everything
i just remembered i still need to do colo 3
MoP helps a lot with taking care of primal aspids
oh i thougth grim child
what if i just get itemless cdash fr
you need mental assistance
@shy tartan HIIIIIIIII
ello
man i hate the room before the door in pop
its not too hard
its anoying
ok im gonna go fight radiance if i beat it first try i think its a sign to start a steel soul run
โpath of pain but 50 unkillable primal aspids are chasing meโ goes so hard
radiance is easy as fuck
with the whimsical music too
facts
easier than nkg?
alright then
path of pain but every time i die the bamboo that i'm restrained under grows 1 inch
what the fuck
real torture method btw
you never know, could make for a crazy vid
you could also face a very gorey and gruesome death
we'll cut that out of the video
but you will still be very very dead
yah but the video is monetizable
what was yalls experience whit nkg
i havent fought him yet
80+ attempts
โโchallengeโ? what am i gonna fight, the sun?โ
HOLLOW KNIGHT chat, what charms do I use for hornet protector bro
never gets old
i probably wont in a good while too
absolutely
isnt protector the first one? it doesnt matter what charms you use atp
glowing womb and dreamshield overcharm
Not the pantheon one
The like story hornet
just smack her around with your nail
compass dreamshield overcharm
thwack thwack thwack
Why compass
to overcharm
both hornet fights are realy easy
btw when you refight hornet 1 you can instant stagger her with cyclone slash ๐
how would you get dream shield before fighting hornet ๐ญ
i got her down (before the floating platforms) in not even a minute holy shit
grind geo fir lantern, enter peaks, go to resting grounds, grab dreamshield, stag yo dirtmouth kill the baldur with dreamshield and then go to hirnet
this game is easy (with 9 masks, shaman, and void spells)
facts ๐ผ
Is it just me or is pure vessel kinda not that hard to beat
i have no right to speak here
i speedrun pv
with a pb of 17.21 seconds
depends
What are you doing
Or have i just faught him too many times
Praticing for pantheon 5
and how many tries did your first clear take
I am not gonna get to him just to die

