hk-discussion

[tranquil mountain]

uughhhh, computers are the devil

just an unending stream of bullshit

[gray rivet]

Mmmm yeah apparently undervolting gets more performance than overclocking which is find interesting

[stark marlin]

more
stalwart+quick focus+grubsong+elegy+unn/weaversong/(nmg+dwielder)

[gray rivet]

That's a good way to put it

[wooden egret]

Hmm?

[hollow nova]

Elegy

[gray rivet]

My recording software decided it hates me now because of the bitrate I'm using with my dac and it refuses to work

[finite ember]

hi

[tranquil mountain]

oh my radeon relive was also spiking my gpu performance, but lowkey it mightve been a visual bug

[wooden egret]

Nah on second thought I like my stalwart + qs + strength + long nail + steady body

[stark marlin]

Facetank Propaganda:
with a specific selection of charms, nullify all difficulty of p1, p2 and p3
note: it's charms that do the job, not skill. therefore facetank is superior in these scenarios where it works

[gray rivet]

I've really? I also use the Radeon clipping thingy

[finite ember]

me after playing alot of silksong to the point im ASS at hollow knight

[tranquil mountain]

yeah it only started being weird after this new pc setup in the past few days, idk if an update rolled out on relive to mess things up simultaneously or na

[gray rivet]

Thats such a pain I'm gonna explode

[stark marlin]

then have fun
I hope you beat p3 in 1 try
otherwise Facetank would've obviously been better

[tranquil mountain]

ill explode with you dw

[gray rivet]

Yippeee

[finite ember]

p3 was fun but hard

[keen thorn]

NOOOOOOO @strong skiff I GOT TO FINAL PHASE BUT THERE WERE VINES EVEYWHERE AND IT WAS SO HARD TO DODGE 😭

[stark marlin]

Which is why I am here
Facetank Propaganda
to erase the difficulty of first 3 pantheons (no bindings) once and for all

[tranquil mountain]

im sleepin, gn

[gray rivet]

Are you Australian too,,

[keen thorn]

And worst is I died as they were despawning 😭

[ripe moth]

hey I should also sleep

[wooden egret]

I can face tank the bindings
Though I need to have skill to fight them again in p5

[tranquil mountain]

no im just mentally ill

[gray rivet]

It's okay me too

[vernal knot]

Hello everyon

[stuck hamlet]

hi

[gray rivet]

Sleep well!!

[tranquil mountain]

thank you fox

[stark marlin]

you can facetank in p5 as well ehh
but this doesn't work with charm/soul bindings, the Facetank strat

[tranquil mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-deadlock-goodnight-gif-3731070526053056212

[gray rivet]

You're welcome :3 I should sleep too anyways it's 3:30am

[wooden egret]

Mask and nail should be no prroblem

[ripe moth]

woah same time zone too

[tranquil mountain]

might be wise

snooze well beast

[gray rivet]

Thank youuu jess

[stuck hamlet]

sleepwell

[ripe moth]

(shocking you live in the same time zone as a third of the population)

[gray rivet]

Are you nsw or vic

[stark marlin]

mask and nail are Facetank - compatible
but uumuu and sly might be a slight issue in mask

[ripe moth]

gn fox :3

[gray rivet]

Lmfao I'm saying

[ripe moth]

vic

[gray rivet]

:O me too :3

[stuck hamlet]

ane tips for isma

[stark marlin]

overworld or godhome?

[stuck hamlet]

overword

[gray rivet]

I've not met many people in the same state as me here somehow

[ripe moth]

I know of at least one

[wooden egret]

Can just switch it for a more offensive one.
Stalwart nail charge is good to hit 5 times instead of simply dashing away. It works neatly against hornet sentinel and grey prince zote to an extent

[gray rivet]

Well you know two now hehehe

[stark marlin]

Facetank Propaganda:
use a carefully selected combination of charms, to entirely nullify any threat of Isma
stalwart+qfocus+grubsong+elegy+weaversong

[gray rivet]

Okay I'm going loopy I'm gonna try sleep fr now
If I can't ill reappear here in like 10 minutes

[ripe moth]

real

[stuck hamlet]

thans

[stark marlin]

so yeah
build charms to your liking
all my Propaganda claims is that you can use what I suggest and just win

[stark marlin]

in general, you Facetank by healing after each hit you receive
remain close to the ground so it's guaranteed
feel free to go aggressively and only begin the healing cycle once you're a number of masks down if you want a speed up and are confident!

[tiny yoke]

up to last bench on p5 soul binding

[blazing pawn]

here lies a gorb. a great mind

i am gorb

[stark marlin]

soul binding? so soul catcher/eater is neear useless?

[tiny yoke]

yuh

im just using the regular p5 build

strength qslash shaman spell twister

[stark marlin]

p5 build? one build for the entire pantheon? I could never

[tiny yoke]

the only segments where the build matters are the last two segments

everything before that i can beat with literally any combination of charms

[stark marlin]

twister sounds so bad
it sounds like it doesn't do anything because it still takes 2 hits to get a spell off
then the 9 soul is left and you are likely to still override it by filling the vessel

[tiny yoke]

p5 is 35 minutes free then 15 minutes hell

[tiny yoke]

i think my nerves are the biggest issue

soul binding is by far the easiest in p5

[stark marlin]

nail is, surely, is it not?

Something's wrong with my game...

[tiny yoke]

imo its way easier to only fight with the nail than only with spells

[stark marlin]

but nail binding is just longer fight, no difficulty increase for the most part
and soul makes it far harder to heal/ddark

[tiny yoke]

longer fight means more mental pressure

which is the only hard thing for me about p5 atp

i could probably get to absrad every attempt if i didnt stress out as soon as i get to white defender

[keen cypress]

Bonk

[tiny yoke]

• i did radhog before this so i rarely heal anyway

and ddark well

ig i have shade cloak

[keen cypress]

Bonk

[humble spire]

is it just me or is all bindings absrad harder than radiant absrad?

[tiny yoke]

ofc it is

all bindings anything is harder than radiant anything

[torn geyser]

the pink court is a peak mod

[stark marlin]

no idea what may cause the pink court

[tiny yoke]

guys new p5 strategy trust

[stark marlin]

let me know how does it fare
but with my playstyle, this many masks would get cleaned in seconds on bosses like oro & mato

[thick elk]

thats actually a good strategy for practise tbf

[stuck hamlet]

how did i do absolute rad no focus no spells just the nail all bindings

[stark marlin]

I guess you are just good at the game
I could never

[stuck hamlet]

thancks for the complament

[dusky coral]

Do absrad radiant with this 🔥

actually

get all lifeblood cocoons around the map before entering godhome

[normal cradle]

tanking vs skill

[dusky coral]

i love posting this ss

[dusky coral]

and then do the first few bosses hitless

to get the extra 5 lifeblood you get from resting spots

🔥

[keen thorn]

FINAL PHASE AGAIN

Ahhhhhh but stupid gulkas

[pseudo elk]

i did my first speedrun of hk today and got 1027 (in theory didnt send cuz dont have a vid its any% btw)

[strong skiff]

See you win at 9 hours

💀

[fresh isle]

what are u doing 😭

[keen thorn]

another phase 3 death to a sudden vine

this is so rotten roma

[keen thorn]

r04 isma

this is literal hell

[fresh isle]

ohh

[fallow grotto]

OMG HI ELOKI!

[wild herald]

Wsp

Guys

How r u doing

[molten yoke]

Just fluked radiant GPZ!

[keen thorn]

Ahhhhhhh 2 hours 😭

I got twice to final but vines are just so ridiculous

Wait if I'm not mistaken this is 7 hours

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tiny yoke]

what the fuck

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[dusky coral]

[tiny yoke]

thats what happened i gave it one shot and died to oro & mato LOL

[dusky coral]

hmm

i'll try

let me just un-pale court rq

[stark marlin]

I got Pink Court mod

[pearl sage]

WHAT

[steep sierra]

Is true detective worth watching

[dusky coral]

holy shit

i didnt realise how used to quickslash i am

god damn

[pearl sage]

I use this charm build for P5

[pearl sage]

I thought this too when I was doing pantheon bindings

[steep sierra]

Mine was pride quick slash strength heart

[pearl sage]

Dude it's so stressful

[steep sierra]

I always use this build regardless anything

[dusk patio]

@fresh isle can u help rn

[pliant oxide]

Players who have finished sk and hk, which true final boss did you find harder?

Rad/absrad or ll?

[steep sierra]

Ll

You know what I can't decide

[pearl sage]

Absolute Radiance

Radiance was really easy

[pliant oxide]

Radiance Is still a true final boss

[pearl sage]

Lost Lace was kind of hard too however though

[pliant oxide]

But so is absolute radiance

So I just put them both in

[dusky coral]

fire stuff

[pearl sage]

If you just memorized her moves you could counter it all

[steep sierra]

Wkt absrad is harder than LL

[pliant oxide]

I haven't fought rad or ll yet

[dusky coral]

LL was so boring

also uh no silksong

[pliant oxide]

But I can guess absrad is way harder😭

[steep sierra]

Lost lace fight is just awful

Hot take

[pearl sage]

You need to go through 51 sections of P5 (Including rest spots and seeker meetings) to get to Absolute Radiance

[pliant oxide]

The build up to it is just WAY more frustrating

And harder

You have to fight nkg and pv on the way there too

[steep sierra]

This is the thing I am most proud of in my life

[pearl sage]

Abs Rad is a lot faster than the Radiance it's not even close

[pearl sage]

Yeah

[pearl sage]

Abs Rad or Radiance

[steep sierra]

P5 ending

It is

[maiden mural]

Ive been doing steel soul 4 times

And i died each time

[steep sierra]

It's crazy how ezy is hk steel soul than sk

[pliant oxide]

Pure light vs silk child

Really balanced

[steep sierra]

What are we going to fight the sun .... AGAIN

[pliant oxide]

YES :D

[maiden mural]

What boss did i die to?
Not a boss it was a freaking g infected grumbles

[ripe heath]

Guys how can I face the white defender?

[pliant oxide]

Godhome after beating dung defender

[ripe heath]

I think I didnt get to god home

I am farming so i can get to white palace

[steep sierra]

So go in the room you beated dung defender then go ahead there's a wheel above you have to d dark under it to get access to his area dream nail him and there you go

[dusky coral]

Right where the lever is in dung defender's room, ddark there

[pliant oxide]

I actually never knew this existed

[steep sierra]

Or download the pale court

[ripe heath]

he isnt sleeping he is still alive HOW!?

[strong skiff]

Gg

[steep sierra]

Bro is too good to die

[ripe heath]

I swear he is up talking to me

[steep sierra]

I got to know it on my second play through so

[steep sierra]

My man misses isma

[dusky coral]

because you didnt kill him

[pliant oxide]

Kindly isma and white defender

[ripe heath]

I did?

[dusky coral]

No

[ripe heath]

come to #hk-help

[keen thorn]

I hate this roma

[steep sierra]

Dung defender

Not u

[keen thorn]

R04 Isma may just be the top of F tier

[dusky coral]

You "defeated" him, you didnt kill him

[keen thorn]

It's not as bad as fucking flukemarm and fc

[steep sierra]

Ogrim i suppose

[keen thorn]

But it is nearing that

[ripe heath]

ohhhhh

how do I then?

[pliant oxide]

That fight is shit

Just like PURE hell pattern

[dusky coral]

why do you want to

[steep sierra]

Wdym

[pliant oxide]

"random bullshit, go!" Type fight

[dusky coral]

hes the last living knight of hallownest

[ripe heath]

I want to kill the white defender???

[steep sierra]

Ogrim is white defender

[pliant oxide]

I haven't played palecourt but I don't know how probably can fight two bosses at the same time

[exotic path]

did someone say ogrim

[dusky coral]

again, you cant kill him, only defeat him

[pliant oxide]

No I mean the ki and wd duo boss fight

[ripe heath]

I want to defeat the white defender...

[steep sierra]

Yeah isma and ogrim together is super difficult but in my opinion the le mer is harder boss

[ripe heath]

How can I?

[dusky coral]

like i said, use ddark under the lever of his room

[pliant oxide]

She's the last one in the pale panethon so

She's by far the strongest

[ripe heath]

wdym with dark!?

[steep sierra]

If you defeat white defender a certain amount of times he builds a shit statue of the knight

[fresh isle]

yes?

[pliant oxide]

And the grey mourner is alive in normal hk

[dusk patio]

can i dm rq

[dusky coral]

show me your spells

[fresh isle]

sure

[pliant oxide]

So that adds more lore to her abilities

[dusky coral]

and come to #hk-help

[ripe heath]

nvm

[steep sierra]

She has two versions and oh my I can't express the difficulty of the second fight

[exotic path]

who at team cherry even decided to call him white defender bro

[dusk patio]

sent a dm

[steep sierra]

Ogrim would be better

[ripe heath]

the place with king's idol right? @dusky coral

[dusky coral]

wht

[ripe heath]

come to help

[pliant oxide]

3 dreamers to be put into eternal slumber, a billion vessels created, a god daughter of hallownest created, five knights on the mission, and a vessel to contain the radiance

ALL because the pale king wanted the fame

[strong skiff]

@keen thorn is r04 nosk any hard

[pliant oxide]

And the player dies in the dream no more ending too😭

[steep sierra]

So radiance and pale king both are the antagonist

[pliant oxide]

Radiance is the theoretical antagonist

But she just got her pride destroyed

and wanted everything back

Other higher beings didn't have a problem with it though

the pale king just wanted to be the main character or some shit😭

[keen thorn]

If you're @keen thorn yes

[steep sierra]

I am not into quite into lore but radiance wanted everyone to worship er right ?? So yeah she started controlling minds but pale king is the path of this corruption so it was a chain of events wyrms and moths it's like modern political society where no one's the actual hero

If I am correct though

[pliant oxide]

"modern political society" is crazy work😭

Guess who was chosen to fix the problem?

[strong skiff]

Wtf😭

[pliant oxide]

Children!!!

[steep sierra]

I mean that's on point ☝️

[exotic path]

i think radiance was just jealous because her house has no buzzsaws

[steep sierra]

[outer field]

That's why she got so many swords

[keen thorn]

Idk I just struggled for no reason

quantum will perpetually bully me for it

[outer field]

what is R5

[strong skiff]

A specific attack or combo or just random misplays

[exotic path]

is the intended route to go from greenpath to fog canyon to fungal wastes on your first playthrough? my dumb ahh saw the jellyfish and got scared so i instead went through crossroads to fungal wastes after getting dash

[strong skiff]

Both are equally intended

[empty lynx]

It isn't

Me personally i got it second try

[thick elk]

Radiant pantheon 5

[thick elk]

The clanker smasher

[empty lynx]

Shura

[empty lynx]

If the game is letting you do it it's intended

[keen thorn]

Just the fact it is nosk

[empty lynx]

regardless of how bizarre it can be

[strong skiff]

Ignore iblss
Stagclip is deffinetelly intended

[empty lynx]

what's iblss?

[outer field]

I've heard that it glows specially, if you didn't AB it

[tropic nest]

itemless blue lake shade skip

[empty lynx]

oh itemless blue lake

y'all don't do that already?

okay wait the hell is stagclip

[keen thorn]

Look at ts
https://youtu.be/rMo05PXk76E

[pliant oxide]

s p e l l s

[strong skiff]

NOOOOOOO

How close was this????

Its your fault but damn its exhausting

And im not even playing😭😭😭😭😭

[keen thorn]

Just final which after the vines despawn is free

[empty lynx]

I love this

[strong skiff]

Damn

[pliant oxide]

It genuinely works though

[keen thorn]

And this is just the first of 2

[strong skiff]

I hate this
Suboptimal overcharming

[pliant oxide]

You gain INSANE soul

[empty lynx]

Well yea spells are good

[pliant oxide]

If only I can drop in grubsong and weaver song

You can heal after like one nail hit

[empty lynx]

I will say though you should probably try to fit in quickslash

[pliant oxide]

I used this build for the memes, my main one is steady body quickslash fragile strength soul twister and soul eater

Trynna get radiant lk

[empty lynx]

Good. I just recommended quickslash because it's actually better soul gain than soul catcher

[empty lynx]

Btw idk if you know this but you can actually change the controls' layout

[pliant oxide]

Yeah ik but like I'm really used to these anyway

And I barely use anything else during the lk fight

Slash and descending dark

I don't even jump cro😭

[empty lynx]

You should try to use shade soul more

Good double and triple hits. Ensures it almost always staggers in 7 hits

[pliant oxide]

I'm really bad with spells

And shade soul throws me off

that slight timing of staying in place while casting is just bs against lost kin😭

[empty lynx]

I can see that but it's very worth getting used to them
Also you should try using quick cast more than focus

[pliant oxide]

Who said I use the focus button???

[empty lynx]

just making sure ALOT of people still do

[thick elk]

Yes, it looks better without the ab effect

[humble dock]

vri have 1k what shud i ab

buy

[outer field]

Imo no

[pliant oxide]

The thing with radiant is being nervous istg

[empty lynx]

And it's sad too liek quick cast is 30 frames faster

[pliant oxide]

I no hit lost kin TWICE on ascended

But I'm washed at radiant

I did lost kin way too many times now I can do the fight on attuned without charms😭

[thick elk]

Hello person from yesterday

[empty lynx]

Ptetty much just pogo and descending dark whenever it's staggered
shade soul whenever he's far
And you got ts

He was 1 hit away from dying after i stopped recording lmao

[little finch]

wait I've never played mobile is it good

[empty lynx]

Not at all

[little finch]

also hello server or whatever

Ok I might stick to using xbox then

[thick elk]

Waiting for iPhone port 🥹

[pliant oxide]

Wait I never actually thought of this

I can get all ddark hits with this??

[empty lynx]

If you are a PC or console player mobile is not good at all

[honest shale]

nothing yet

[empty lynx]

• a pogo

[empty lynx]

• a pogo

[void socket]

U make it look soooo easy

[humble dock]

i had 3.8k but i died with it 2 times

[pliant oxide]

Nice double send twin

[empty lynx]

Quite literally 3 hits away from staggering after every stagger LMAO

Fuck.

[pliant oxide]

I mainly used two normal nail hits and a ddark

[empty lynx]

(it is)

[little finch]

I can never beat a boss under 2 minutes

[pliant oxide]

No glaze whatsoever, but you are talking about li here

[little finch]

like. No chance

[pliant oxide]

He's the

c a r

[empty lynx]

Where or when do you ddark?

[honest shale]

bro

[empty lynx]

Finally someone gets it

[pliant oxide]

The edges (next to lk)

[empty lynx]

Not even gruzz mother?

[empty lynx]

I meannn that's not really that bad but i think pogo ddark is alot safer

[pliant oxide]

Speaking of gruzzmother

Why is the fight genuinely here harder???

[molten yoke]

Has anyone here done a boss tier list?

[empty lynx]

Because there's spikes

[honest shale]

it cannot be that hard to get false knight in under 2 minutes

[pliant oxide]

No the attuned version

[honest shale]

no

[empty lynx]

Only on r04

[pliant oxide]

I can no hit the fight on a normal playthrough with like no shit easily

[empty lynx]

Because she has way more hp than compared to base game so you actually have to dodge her attacks more than 2 times

[honest shale]

what is r04

[pliant oxide]

But the fight in gh feels so weird😭

[empty lynx]

Utter woke tryhard nonsense

[honest shale]

yeah but what does it mean

[pliant oxide]

Panethon 4 radiant

aka hitless

[empty lynx]

Radiant old nail white spells all bindings

[pliant oxide]

What

💔

[honest shale]

thats r4 bro

[empty lynx]

that's r4
r044 if it had those conditions

[pliant oxide]

the hk players can NEVER use full words

[empty lynx]

Radiant pantheon 4 old nail white spells all bindings is a mouthful don't you think

[honest shale]

ok that makes sense

[pliant oxide]

I'm guessing that's

Okay just WOW

[humble dock]

BRO IS THIS WATCHER KNIGHT REAL

[pliant oxide]

I can't even put it into acronyms

[humble dock]

THEY ARE SO HARD

[honest shale]

tell me what r5abononma means before i sock you

[pliant oxide]

Uh

[honest shale]

yes

[empty lynx]

i already have my answer

[pliant oxide]

Absolute radiance hitless on panethon 5?

[tropic nest]

no

[empty lynx]

radiant pantheon 5 all bindings old nail only no movement abilities

[honest shale]

radiant p5 all bindings old nail only no movement abilities

[pliant oxide]

Really understandable don't you think

let me show this to my friend

[honest shale]

yea

[empty lynx]

the acnoryms are harder than the challenges themselves

[honest shale]

this cannot be a good idea

[pliant oxide]

He said "mf are you casting a curse on me?"

"the demons aren't doing this much work"

[empty lynx]

Sounds about right

[autumn ice]

also if you want to reduce ambiguity you can just use some spaces

[void socket]

It is

[honest shale]

bu that would be too easy

[autumn ice]

r5ab ono nma is super readable if you know the acronyms

and if you don't, you only need to be told them once

[empty lynx]

You can destroy one of them forever

[worthy peak]

i can never remember acronyms :(

i need to be told a lot of times

[humble dock]

i did that vro

i can teven get past 2

[empty lynx]

Hitless TRACABARTPEEG lock in your answers

[void socket]

Watcher knights took me 8 hrs to beat on my first playthrough

[pliant oxide]

WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK???

[empty lynx]

You can dreamnail them for soul before the fight starts

[worthy peak]

not happenign

[honest shale]

watchers just need a lot of practice

youll get it eventually

[void socket]

U just need shade cloak and its ez

[wide belfry]

Heh

[pliant oxide]

Alright wait wait

[void socket]

Jump up desolate dive and dash out

[empty lynx]

Hint: it's deltarune

[wide belfry]

Is Pure vessel hard on radient

[empty lynx]

You don't have to jump to use dive btw

[void socket]

Yes

[honest shale]

i can pronounce it better than understand it 😭

[empty lynx]

but yes that would be good actually

[void socket]

That too

[unkempt parrot]

What am I reading

[pliant oxide]

What does "panethon 5 hitless no spells old nail only no movement abilities all bindings no nail arts" mean in acronyms?

[empty lynx]

sometimes

[empty lynx]

ip5ab

[unkempt parrot]

For me yes

[wide belfry]

Ok

What about NkG

[pliant oxide]

What the fuck is ip now?💔

I'm finding your ip twin

[void socket]

Nightmare king grim😍

[empty lynx]

Itemless pantheon 5 all bindings
Basically kings pass gear

[empty lynx]

Good first radiant

[wide belfry]

Dang

[void socket]

Yeah...

[pliant oxide]

I hate the hk community

They are full of masochists

[wide belfry]

Void and nightmares

[pliant oxide]

-# with all due respects btw

[stark marlin]

what if it was not ab?
then we'd have to differentiate between full and no masks

[empty lynx]

Lucky you, you don't have to do them yourself
I think

[wide belfry]

That’s me

[empty lynx]

onws typically allows them i think

[pliant oxide]

Wait has anyone EVEN done those challenges to begin with?

[wide belfry]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[empty lynx]

Yes

[pliant oxide]

Fuck this

[stark marlin]

so ip5 has 5 or 9 masks?

[wide belfry]

Pain pain

[pliant oxide]

I quit the game

[honest shale]

so why is it ip and not kp

[empty lynx]

aside from the hitless part since itemless r5 is actually impossible

[pliant oxide]

All bindings is 4

[empty lynx]

kpp5ab sounds shit

[stark marlin]

ip5 not ip5ab

[pliant oxide]

Oh shit mb

[empty lynx]

Itemless is literally kings pass gear so 5
Onws is old nail white spells. You can have charms and other upgrades

[wide belfry]

But in ip5ab you start with 5 masked but with all binds it takes 4 so you probably have 1

[honest shale]

i guess

[empty lynx]

You always have 4 masks regardless of how many you originally had

[wide belfry]

Oh ok

[pliant oxide]

Kpp being..?

[empty lynx]

Kings pass pantheon

[pliant oxide]

-# sorry if I asked too many questions bro, I'm not on the hk reddit

[honest shale]

would this make the shell binding optimal for p1 speedruns?

[empty lynx]

nah i love yapping about acnoryms i think

[empty lynx]

Yes because you can actually lose 3 masks at the start for fury

[honest shale]

whats after the p4 rest again?

[empty lynx]

Failed champion markoth watcher knights soul tyrant and the pure

[stark marlin]

but is it not harder? as you are likely overcharmed? or is it solved by a heal?

[pliant oxide]

The only thing left for hk is for someone to 112% the game hitless with the starter gear while touching grass outside

And do pop wr on the way (no movement abilities yes)

[honest shale]

wait im dumb you dont even have to heal

so it doesnt matter

[empty lynx]

You only take 1 mask of damage if you fall into the clouds with i frames active

[stark marlin]

even with overcharm? that's neat

[empty lynx]

112% all pantheon bosses Hasn't been done i think. Atleast outside of using fury

[honest shale]

i learnt this the hard way tryna do ascended abs rad with fury

[stark marlin]

it's allowed to initiate fury in hitless if it's clear that the damage is purposeful and doesn't benefit you otherwise right?

[pliant oxide]

Imagine resetting the whole run due to being hit by falling into acid during the uumuu p5 after literally doing everything

[honest shale]

no

[pliant oxide]

Wait so people genuinely attempt to do this?

[honest shale]

probably

[pliant oxide]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN PROBABLY???

okay I'm quitting hollow knight

[empty lynx]

https://youtu.be/eDjazpC1wjw?si=x86KyyrDx54KjQQd @keen thorn the hell does the pinned comment mean

[pliant oxide]

I'm going back to playing farming simulator

[stark marlin]

r112% or r112+p5?

[empty lynx]

A mod here does

[honest shale]

oh dw ill follow you just to speedrun it so you can never truly let go

[pliant oxide]

Starter gear without getting any item hitless 112% with p5 and all radiant bosses and pop

[empty lynx]

Well no they don't

[wide belfry]

Yo I did this (I got hit in the dream world, does this count?

[empty lynx]

it does

[stark marlin]

so 112+?

[pliant oxide]

I'm the true master at farming simulator

[pliant oxide]

Yes

[honest shale]

well shit

[humble dock]

fk this game

why are there 4 watcher knights?

[pliant oxide]

I played the game since I was 4 years old

[honest shale]

theres 5 actually

[pliant oxide]

Quit like years ago tho😭

[honest shale]

and i live on mars bro

[humble dock]

😭

[honest shale]

6 if you dont drop the chandelier

[pliant oxide]

But I had the game on my mum's phone for like 3 years lmao

[humble dock]

i droped

[pliant oxide]

Use flukenest with shaman stone twin

it's not that hard

[keen thorn]

Ah yeah this guy.
They made a segmented hitless 112% but we don't know what the segments are

[pliant oxide]

How many notches do you have?

[honest shale]

i didnt on my first playthrough and it wasnt too bad

[keen thorn]

@fresh isle say hi

[empty lynx]

i got confused about that part too
Is it just resetting back to the bench everytime they get hit?

[honest shale]

tbf i was also trying to do everything else in the game besides the dreamers

[pliant oxide]

It HAS to be eloki

Tbh I'm not even surprised

[keen thorn]

Just they can get to some point, stop recording and start a new one, and if they get hit revert back to that point

[humble dock]

stone?

[pliant oxide]

She has way too much free time probably 😭

[keen thorn]

So not even R5 because they stopped at benches

[humble dock]

bro what are stoness

[stark marlin]

so like 1 mask hk instead or 1 mask steel soul

[pliant oxide]

Don't you have shaman's stone?

[fresh isle]

sigh

[empty lynx]

Guhhh

[magic glacier]

ugh

[pliant oxide]

Salubra sells it

[stark marlin]

shaman stone is a "good" charm
use it

[humble dock]

what is that

[empty lynx]

The first

[honest shale]

so its not tryly hitless, he just has one health?

[pliant oxide]

Late game without shaman's stone???

[humble dock]

oh that charm seller?

[honest shale]

so glass soul?

[pliant oxide]

Quit the game already twin

[keen thorn]

Pretty much

[stark marlin]

kill gruz mother, get to the funny charm seller in her hut, buy shaman stone

[humble dock]

i use dreamshield

[brave kite]

with shield only

and debug mod for 1 base damage

[fresh isle]

sunk cost fallacy

[humble dock]

i didnt kill gruz mother idk who that is but ik the funny charm seller

[fresh isle]

i have like 3 runs post colo 3 and a 110% run

im on a 112 hitless break though

[pliant oxide]

Hollow knight's EASIEST challenge

[fresh isle]

for mental

[stark marlin]

gruz mother is the boss that blocks access to her

[humble dock]

what does vro look like

[pliant oxide]

The hardest challenge for hk players is to get married

[honest shale]

you are not real

[brave kite]

also itemless cuz why tf not

[pliant oxide]

And that's not even a roast

It's factual

[stark marlin]

big ahh fly that slams herself onto the floor/ceiling all the time

[humble dock]

idr which area crossroad right

[humble dock]

isnt it good

[stark marlin]

forgotten crosroads

[pliant oxide]

South east of forgotten crossroads btw

[honest shale]

no its complete ass

[empty lynx]

Top 5 worst charms

[fresh isle]

i would rather clear 112 hitless than get married tbh

[humble dock]

it helps tho

[empty lynx]

Lol why

[humble dock]

i killed then ig i dont remeber

[pliant oxide]

"rather" like you have the choice to

[honest shale]

technically every charm does besides heavy blow and gwomb

[fresh isle]

not having beaten 112 hitless looms over my head more than the fact that im single

[humble dock]

vro 1 free hit and saves from attacks like it helped alot during broken veseel

[empty lynx]

The fights you won with it were just you
And you would've won them a long time ago with early game charms which are good

[humble dock]

my gawd

amma buy shamans

[empty lynx]

You don't want to know the horrors shamman stone does to broken vessel.

[stark marlin]

and thorns, and sometimes any summon, and jonis, and dfocus...

[pliant oxide]

It will be the day of judgement when hollow knight players discover normality

[humble dock]

crazy

[fresh isle]

im normal i think

[pliant oxide]

And decide to turn off the game

[empty lynx]

Let's just say it's actually a nightmare for the guy if you use it with fireball alot

[pliant oxide]

Take a shower

[honest shale]

oh yeah i forgot abt all that

[pliant oxide]

And probably find a goal in life (never outside than playing hk)

[empty lynx]

Did i also mention all of that is for 220 geo

[fresh isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/1470126848791810179/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_-_2026-02-08T133757.986.mp4?ex=69b99fd2&is=69b84e52&hm=8c038e088b62a7d523f53b1772cd9c82c5f313e5ab8d0b7360fe805021ee2dfa& anyway yea this run is cool

[humble dock]

fireballl? damn

[humble dock]

damn

[stark marlin]

like vengeful spirit spell

[empty lynx]

You are interesting to say the least

[fresh isle]

thanks !

[honest shale]

well do that by the time the day of judgement happens?

[fresh isle]

ii get htat a lot

[pliant oxide]

Is this itemless?

[fresh isle]

no

[humble dock]

what the heck thats a new ahh ability vro

[pliant oxide]

Or just a normal hitless run

[fresh isle]

112 hitless attempt

[stark marlin]

you killed false knight? or at least fought him?

[pliant oxide]

NEVER

[humble dock]

yea i remeber

i killed

[brave kite]

i might get speedrun 2 and speed completion with 1 save

[empty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-meme-gif-12202445345958509266

[humble dock]

it was the first boss right

[stark marlin]

went to the snail shaman's hut to the left?

[brave kite]

and then the only thing remaining is the steel spul and steel heart

[pliant oxide]

That's basically fireball

You know when you use spells

You unleash a straight-flying white soul thingy?

[honest shale]

beautiful

[pliant oxide]

that's called "vengeful spirit"

[humble dock]

yep

[humble dock]

yea

[honest shale]

imagine bro did dream shield to leave crossroads and thats why he uses it

[stark marlin]

so that's vengeful spirit spell
it gets a size boost from shaman stone

[empty lynx]

Hilarious

[pliant oxide]

Did you acquire "mantis claw" or "mothwing cloak"?

[humble dock]

yea

[empty lynx]

Twin they are at watcher knights.

[pliant oxide]

Aka wall jump and dash

[humble dock]

damn

[humble dock]

yea done

[pliant oxide]

Apparently he doesn't know what vengeful spirit is

[naive dew]

hii eloki

[empty lynx]

Which lets it hit enemies twice sometimes

• 5 damage

[humble dock]

WHAT THE FUCK IS INFECTED CROSSROADS

VRO I CAME TO CROSSRAODS AND ITS INFECTED?

[stark marlin]

yeah supposedly it can bully broken vessel

[pliant oxide]

Use the stag

Don't go from the entrance

[stark marlin]

possibly
after picking up monarch wings (double jump)

[humble dock]

i did

[pliant oxide]

Actually better yet

[pliant oxide]

Go to resting grounds

Go across bluelake

[humble dock]

idk what that is

[pliant oxide]

And wall climb to the far left exit

[humble dock]

ik resting grounds

[pliant oxide]

Literally the edge of resting grounds

exit the main area where you came from

Go to the xero room

Down

[humble dock]

the gate is locked

from the down thing

[pliant oxide]

Then left exit

Go across the lake of water

And you need to wall climb to an exit

you will be met after dropping down with a hut

[humble dock]

the portal is also locked

[pliant oxide]

That's salubra's place

[honest shale]

portal?

[pliant oxide]

Oh...

[honest shale]

there are portals in this game?

[fresh isle]

oh yea i was gonna add do path of pain during the run as a channel point goal or something

i forgot

[humble dock]

the thing u gotta open with pass

and wtf are passes btw

[honest shale]

the tram?

[pliant oxide]

Tram access door

That's not a portal

[honest shale]

the tram pass is an item found in deepnest

[humble dock]

vro i cant go in deepnest

[pliant oxide]

You can through fungal wastes core

[honest shale]

technically nothings stopping you

[humble dock]

i went thru the mantis thingy

the mantis lords

[honest shale]

and with wings id say deepnest is a fair place to go next

[pliant oxide]

Yk what just search a tutorial it's a lot to explain

[humble dock]

alright

[honest shale]

does anyone wanna maje a bet?

the loser has to enter #hk-general for 5 seconds

actually i should probably check if gamblings allowed first

[stark marlin]

especially gambling for life

[honest shale]

nah thats crazy

[humble dock]

i bought it the shamans stone what else to buy

[honest shale]

it doesnt say but i dont think this counts as hk game discussion

[honest shale]

charm notches if you can

[humble dock]

i bought 1

cant buy more

should i buy longnail?

[honest shale]

ok now how many notches do you have total?

[empty lynx]

Longnail is decent. 100% buy steadybody. It combos well with a certain charm later

[humble dock]

8

[humble dock]

alr

[honest shale]

id argue steady body is bad for new players

[agile pewter]

Oh nice
I also got fragged by sob today

[exotic path]

the best charms are obviously flukenest and heavy blow

[humble dock]

and wtf is that?

[empty lynx]

Which is why i said another charm later and not right now

[honest shale]

that sucks but honestly learn to play around it

[agile pewter]

(Flukenest is really busted, if you know how to use it)

[agile pewter]

During an r5 grind

[exotic path]

on current patch too?

[frigid terrace]

Seems everybody is

[knotty musk]

Ignore those, they shouldn't exist

[humble dock]

ic

[agile pewter]

Yea no, Team Cherry fixed like Nothing.

[keen thorn]

Most normal R5 experience

[honest shale]

that doesnt change my opinion why are you on the edge or that high up?

[humble dock]

can my beautiful crossraods change again to normal?

[keen thorn]

If you don't have at least 10% of your deaths to sob telefrag you didn't do R5

[honest shale]

if they ignore the problem for long enough it will go away

[raven rock]

no

[agile pewter]

Yeah, exactly what genio said

[autumn ice]

?

[knotty musk]

sadly no, mender bug has not enough funding for that

[exotic path]

ok FINE the best charms are obviously dream shield heavy blow kingsoul and . hmmm. idk you decide

[humble dock]

🙁

[pliant oxide]

Peak name btw

[autumn ice]

Skill issue self report there genio idk what to tell you

[honest shale]

that still doesnt answer my question why on earth are you over there?

[agile pewter]

Hai person who i thought was also zmate that one time

[rocky zealot]

unbreakable strength

[keen thorn]

Nuh uh

[exotic path]

no unbreakable strength isnt strong enough i prefer gathering swarm

[frigid terrace]

If you spam ddark enough the telefrags don't matter

[keen thorn]

You got a 1 hit RS2 to ||zango|| shush

[agile pewter]

I wasnt at the very edge, it was a bit past the pillar

And that was enough.

[keen thorn]

Yeah the area for the telefrag is absurdly big it's not even funny

[honest shale]

ok nvm thats utter bullshit

[exotic path]

i think the WORST charm is probably um shaman stone. or unbreakable strength. idk guys wdyt

[agile pewter]

Welcome to r5 grind

[honest shale]

prob quickslash

[exotic path]

ohh yeah

that one sucked i had to take off compass to try it on in a fight

[humble dock]

bro i think my shamans stone isnt working the spell looks the same

[honest shale]

compass is mid i prefer deep focus

[honest shale]

it should be slightly bigger

[knotty musk]

it doesn't change the looks of the spell

[honest shale]

and thats it

[rocky zealot]

r u trying to ragebait

[molten yoke]

Rate the boss tier list

[honest shale]

look at the message i replied to please

[humble dock]

yea it is

[exotic path]

zote the mighty should be SSS+

[knotty musk]

Zote should be in the S tier

[honest shale]

then it works

[low carbon]

Christopher larkin gave birth to the pale king and hornet so they are brothers

[knotty musk]

I see a fellow man of culture

[molten yoke]

Zote is an awful character

[exotic path]

says a guy who is lying

zote is the most impactful character in all of media

[knotty musk]

Preach

[exotic path]

if there was a zote movie it would be rated higher than breaking bad and ishowspeed: early stream

[honest shale]

why is zote 1 here

[molten yoke]

It was js in the list

[honest shale]

fair

[honest shale]

why is that the benchmark

[exotic path]

idk if it still is but ishowspeed: early stream! was rated higher than all of breaking bad

on imdb

[honest shale]

i meant breaking bad

[exotic path]

i thought it was at the top

of imdb

[humble dock]

can we drop 5 chandeliers on watcher kngiths?

[honest shale]

no

play the fucking game

[humble dock]

its hard

[honest shale]

then keep doing it until its not

[humble dock]

aw man

[honest shale]

thats the entire point of practising

[knotty ravine]

oh i read like 2 seconds

[honest shale]

great you should understand whats happening perfectly then

[knotty ravine]

i mean yea u can play aroound sob telefrags and its not the hardest thing in the world but that applies for like 90% of other hk jank and it still sucks ass

sob telefrags suck

[honest shale]

wait till u get fragged by thk last phase as your tryna do it hitless and then accidently get the kill and have to wait for the credits to end to do a second attempt

[knotty ravine]

its r5

[honest shale]

nvm thats much worse

[knotty ravine]

that was the context

[honest shale]

i may have terrible short term memory

[agile pewter]

Yea its not very fun when almost every p5 boss has their own errors to offer

I still keep te ano's notes on bosses's errors/glitches in p5

It's like 2-3 pages long

[honest shale]

yeah traitor lord just fucking walks into you sometimes and theres nothing you can do abt it

[agile pewter]

Yes you can avoid it, its called traitorwalk
It can happen after the boss does shockwave/boomerang, and you're only safe from traitorwalk after the boss does a dash attack

[honest shale]

who tf figured this out?

the holland?

[agile pewter]

Literal best hk player

Not even a stretch

[knotty ravine]

oh i aint know teano made a doc for that shit lmao that sounds about right

this game is so dogshit

[exotic path]

boss tierlist i put like 0 thought into
just pretend for a sec that i have image perms

[agile pewter]

Oh he didnt make a doc

I asked him.

[honest shale]

so who?

[knotty ravine]

LOL

thats oomf

[agile pewter]

Thumbnail maker perks :3

[knotty ravine]

ay

[ebon depot]

Te ano

[knotty ravine]

i got those too

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/62KBtMWPzi4?si=ESqdfSs8naUVinFX

[exotic path]

what. do you guys. think!!!!

[verbal pasture]

Raaah best hk player isn’t real

[agile pewter]

Just like a glitchless 3.0 clear

[honest shale]

ive never heard of this guy in my life

[exotic path]

*Random guy*

[verbal pasture]

Well glitchless 3.0 can be real

[agile pewter]

And now you'll wish you'd never known

[honest shale]

i gotta go

not one message?

in 8 minutes not one message?

[frozen storm]

Hello

[honest shale]

hi

[frozen storm]

I need ideas, I have an art homework in which I need to draw 5 frames of a story or something similar, it has to be visual only, no dialogues

[honest shale]

thk fight

[frozen storm]

I want to do something hk based but I have no idea on what to do without dialogues

I need 5 different situations for each frame

[honest shale]

what

[lunar spade]

Not to be dramatic or anything but I managed to make it to absolute radiance and then I died

[frozen storm]

The initial situation, the conflict, the climax, the aftermath and the ending

[lunar spade]

Murderer seems like a pretty cool career choice now

I'm not even mad, I'm glad I was able to get that far

[honest shale]

that happens to pretty much everyone at keast once

[lunar spade]

But damn bro, at least give us a checkpoint

[lunar spade]

😭

[frozen storm]

Ggs

I died once to radiance in the last phase

[lunar spade]

Yea I'd destroy my whole set up after that

[honest shale]

entering black egg, fight starts, self harm, thk death, thk ending

[frozen storm]

I was doing something along these lines but I quickly discarded it

[honest shale]

or sealed siblings if thats easier

[lunar spade]

I can practice it's attacks again with the hollow knight tho

[frozen storm]

I have no idea on how to present the infection without dialogues or exceeding the frame count

[lunar spade]

Gotten freshen up my knowledge on his attacks

[honest shale]

thats fair

[frozen storm]

I could do Silksong

[honest shale]

funny enough no one in my year 9 grade chose art as their elective

[frozen storm]

Do you think I had the option?

I hate art

[honest shale]

no

[frozen storm]

I hate doing anything creative related

I have good ideas but I can't put them on paper

[subtle glacier]

pixel art moment

[honest shale]

Im forced into religion so it balances out

[frozen storm]

Wait a minute...

Nah too complicated

[frozen storm]

So cool

[honest shale]

incredible

[frozen storm]

Impressive

Argh I have no ideas

[obtuse brook]

🔥

[honest shale]

you should probably go to the art server now that i think abt it

[frozen storm]

How can I fit a story within 5 frames

[subtle glacier]

copy other people’s ideas tbh

[frozen storm]

My problem isn't the drawing

[subtle glacier]

just don’t claim them, and it’s great practice

[strong oyster]

in class rn

[frozen storm]

5 frames, no dialogues

[honest shale]

for inspo

[frozen storm]

Too much restrictions

[frozen storm]

Won't help though

[agile pewter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260595929371643935/1284090216881061900/Golden_Freddy.gif

[obtuse brook]

I can't believe I bought Hollow Knight for only $3.59 USD
64 MX= 3.59 USD

[subtle glacier]

yeah it’s crazy

[honest shale]

it does NOT cost that musch

[subtle glacier]

you get like 80% discounts on steam sometimes

[honest shale]

i got it for like $20 AUD

[subtle glacier]

not as often since silksong released but still

[obtuse brook]

I heard Steam discounts are amazing

[obtuse brook]

Hmm

[honest shale]

???

[agile pewter]

No for hk and ss i think its mostly just TC doing localization
I got silksong for less than 200.000 vnd, which is just... 8 dollars.

[frozen storm]

I got it for around the same

Like 10.2 dollars

[honest shale]

you’re vietnamese?

[agile pewter]

Yea

[frozen storm]

60 brl

[agile pewter]

Ye

[obtuse brook]

20 AUD = 14.14 USD

[honest shale]

cool

[honest shale]

i believe it costs $15 USD in the US

[obtuse brook]

[frozen storm]

Sk costs 20

[obtuse brook]

[agile pewter]

Yea, definitely localization
Team Cherry W

[honest shale]

i got that for $30

[frozen storm]

Gtg bye yall

I'll come back soon

[agile pewter]

Same

[obtuse brook]

LUIGI'S MANSION 4 AND 3D MARIO THIS YEAR WE TRUST 🙏

[frozen storm]

Bye Leon

[honest shale]

team cherry be australian and i still get a relatively high price compared to everyone else

[agile pewter]

Not same

Will be dying to more sob telefrag soon

[obtuse brook]

What the heck is this https://x.com/i/status/2033621806842561017

Pirat_Nation 🔴 (@Pirat_Nation)

First look at NVIDIA DLSS 5

What were they thinking???!!!

X · Mar 16, 2026, 7:09 PM

[honest shale]

ts looks like ai upscaling

[obtuse brook]

1000000%

[ebon depot]

That is ai upscaling

[honest shale]

make RAM cost $2000 and sell AI upscaling instead

[obtuse brook]

0 positive comments

[obtuse brook]

[viscid radish]

[honest shale]

if you use nitro credit once you gain permanent access to nitro emoji’s?

[frigid terrace]

brl fetch.....

[obtuse brook]

Uhhhh

[honest shale]

insane development dont tell any discord employee

[obtuse brook]

[ebon depot]

Well it should be atleast, thats what dlss has been about up until 5 atleast, this includes shitty generative AI no one asked for for reasons i cant even make up

[honest shale]

so they have an excuse to sell $2000 sticks of ram

this whole thing is a RAM con

[frigid terrace]

I'm not sure I can see the connection

[ebon depot]

Nvidia doesnt sell ram

[honest shale]

guys

its a joke

[frigid terrace]

Easy to be misconstrued in the absence of both a setup and punchline

[honest shale]

why wouls i need either of those?

[frigid terrace]

So it's funny presumably

[honest shale]

its the only 2 major components of a joke

why would those be inportant

[vernal knot]

Hello everyon

[honest shale]

hi

[frigid terrace]

On the topic of Nvidia I would really like an AMD GPU methinks

[marsh goblet]

White palace best zone oat

[obtuse brook]

[ebon depot]

AMD gpus are nice, ive been running a 7800xt for like 2 years now i think, lovely card

[frigid terrace]

I think I'd still be bottle necked by my CPU. Someone recommended me a 5700 i think

[obtuse brook]

Confirmed
DLSS is IA Gen

[honest shale]

i should probably go do mantis lords

[frigid terrace]

Would help compliment the AMD Cpu I already have and also get rid of whatever grief from Nvidia drivers

[ebon depot]

What cpu are you running

[frigid terrace]

Good question

I think it was like 3600??? I'm not at my PC rn

[honest shale]

oh god how many hits are grub mimics gonna take

[frigid terrace]

Maybe I would be bottlenecked regardless of my efforts

[obtuse brook]

[honest shale]

8

the answer is 8

with nail0

[obtuse brook]

🔥

Hollow Knight 3
Zote actually beign a hero

[honest shale]

no more zote guys

[obtuse brook]

[honest shale]

this joke died like 8 years ago

[obtuse brook]

[hollow nova]

zoteboat jokes are so last year we've all moved on to me when beans

[honest shale]

Gungi, gungi… Mishi umo sanga. Poggi u dungo?

[fast bluff]

What do you call the Hollow Knights ship? ||An empty vesse||

rahhhh

Spoiler fail 🥀

[honest shale]

dw it happens to everyone

[marsh goblet]

How to do ||radiance ||Guys pls

I dont understand

[honest shale]

Neither do i

Its all muscle memory

[marsh goblet]

Bro

I mean to acces

[honest shale]

oh you need voidheart

[marsh goblet]

Whats that

How do Ik if I have

[honest shale]

a charm

[frigid terrace]

I'm not sure this is true

[old flax]

Go to White Lady, get Awoken Dream Nail from Seer, go to Palace Grounds and complete the parkour in the dream realm, go to the Abyss. If you don't know what any of that means play and explore more

[honest shale]

go to #hk-help they can proably do more for you

[marsh goblet]

I had asked nobody answered but now somebody do

[honest shale]

what is the help chat on

and can i have some

[marsh goblet]

[honest shale]

this chat needs more regulars at this time of day

[old flax]

I'm not quite a regular but I exist

Anyways, time to retry path of pain on actual sleep :D

[honest shale]

gl bro

[old flax]

I was legit on the last room for 2 hours -_-

[marsh goblet]

Am I the only one whos fav of hk and silk zone is ||white palace|| ?

[honest shale]

it took me like 10 hours total

all of pop

[honest shale]

probably

[old flax]

you don't need to spoiler here I don't believe

it's because #hk-help is designed for beginners so they don't want to spoil them

[marsh goblet]

Am I still a beginner too I believe

[honest shale]

are tou being spoiled fir anything?

[old flax]

If you are looking for radiance you are late game but there is still plenty of challenges for you yet

[marsh goblet]

I know everything abt hk i mean boss etc

[old flax]

But not how to access Radiance apparently lol

[marsh goblet]

Yes lol

I know bosses etc but not How to

[honest shale]

or what a voidheart is

[marsh goblet]

Fr

Thats what I get at white palace end ?

[round spoke]

guys, I just realized that pantheons got master volume

[honest shale]

no

you get a white fragment

[round spoke]

for example, during dung defender fight you can actually hear sewer noises