#hk-discussion
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so try ascended
not that I could do it very well, I suck at this game as a whole
but someone who's done almost all of hog radiant, including pv? You got this
i HAVE done radiant hog and this guy still perplexes me
ok nkg isnt that hard
who, nkg?
I'd say something about using descending dark, but I personally disagree so I won't
by which attacks do you get hit most?
what
what did you just say to me
my dumbass can’t under the first sentence
in this context
that I'd quote a famous sentence about how one should be using descending dark
but I disagree with it, so I won't
no the ‘who, nkg?’
No
help fears bro
"this guy still perplexes me"
So I ask to be sure who is this guy
Me i think
rocket gunner
Oh I thought you were talking about the boss
oh thats mb
i think you just have dogshit rythm then
Ig
something about staying on boss height during pufferfish
and potentially descending dark
bruh fuck ddark my ass doin ts pure
only shade soul
Fluke soul
and shriek
bro never in my life am i using flukenest
i still never beat Nightmare King
idc how good it is
in dirtmouth or hog?
that's basically all i'm missing
then go do it
Nightmare King, P4 and P5
That's one of my fav bosses 😭
U don't need to beat him
for 112%? or some more complete completion?
my reaction time is straight up ass and his attacks are counter intuitive
But he's very fun fight
man i could not tell by anything visible on my screen
You can do banishment
he goes up and my brain thinks go down but you gotta go up when he goes up
how
the counter intuitive factor can be solved
by remembering what he does on what telegraph
elaborate
:)
and there's not enough time to remember what's gonna happen
when he preps dive dash, you are best off jumping with wings
you just need to fight the boss more then
when he teleports high and kicks down the correct move is to go up and dodge towards him, and when he attacks from the ground and uppercuts you gotta go down and dodge towards him
Lol xD
ok
that is not the first thing my brain comes up with once the adrenaline hits
Bye
Me who tries to parry during ground attack
goes up high = jump with wings
goes up mid high = flame pillars (heal with shape of unn or upslash him a few times)
goes on the ground and extends hand = bats. jump over 1st lower bat and heal / jump over 1st lower bat, wait a bit, dash, hit him
goes on the ground and preps slash = dash away, if no space: dash through him (if skitter, immediately dash and walk away)
goes to mid = pufferfish (pray)
i know that
it's just i don't have the time to make those decisions for the high kick and slash attacks
my brain doesn't go that fast
so you recognize them but can't on time react?
nkg is absolute cinema its like a dance
@shrewd nymph add one to the counter
i wanna fight him again
It's meant to be like a dance
I think it's canon
Guh
yea
It is in the voice lines
But who dances like that 
Counter of what?
i relate to that person. everyone here constantly ignores me and also beats me to death daily. Nobody talks about my favorite boss nkg who is like a dance
well i need to fnish sk quick i left hk after i beat nkg i still need to do pantheons and get all charms
Idk dancing sounds terrifying
to me normal dance and nkg dance seem similar
the nkg is like a dance counter
What counter
How much is the counter at rn?
Oh
much much too high
for everyone or just that one guy?
for everyone
thats so much dancing
i have an idea
Nkg is like being punched in intervals that are kinda consistent but not really
nkg is a dance
how many of those are ironic though
i dont think spamming is a good idea
In what is that different from a dance
im gonna stop before i get banned
" how is being beaten the fuck up different to dancing "
how do you know in advance you're gonna get banned
its a guess
But uhm if you do dodge his attacks
and you don't get beaten up
anyone think i have any chance of getting my old acc back btw
acc of discord or HK?
How did u lose it
how tf does one have a hollow knight account
steam
I mean the save files and unlockables technically form an "account"
that is often stored in cloud
what happen to them
we dont talk about this
keeping this taboo like lifeblood
did you lose password or email or what happened that you have no access
Pv is cool
Pale King made a dead Hallownest feel more peaceful than the things at Silksong or smth
ofc i cant let this affect my ego for a very small amount of time
slimed
i beat ascended PV :D
:D
gg 
Gwomb
Congrats Spamton
Is thk a different type of vessel than the collector?
like can thk-like vessels grow?
to keep your HollowBucks to buy bug skins?
collector aint a vessel + #hk-lore
i dont think the collector is a vessel
Since Collector is more of a void entity
ain't collector a fucked up Kingsmould?
Uh not vessel
I'm stupid, he's no vessel but I think a void creature
his ass is just void
Collector is a failed kingsmold
anyway gir the third tine in the past hour i gotta go
like, the kingsmould mold in the white palace looks alot like the collector
Knight Vessels may grow
Like look at ghost and thk
but kingsmould-like void cannot?
are they of different matter?
i think its based on training
I mean pv is said to be raised and trained to prime form
And as they grow, the "mask" grows with them?
Are vessels like the Knight also cast?
cast?
made by casting
as I think kingsmould were produced
Resplednece is so good at ragebaiting i don't think its unintentional
Guys
my autistic ass fell for this
It's quite often that I hear such a statement
yet I know not the origin of such ideas
So I am in the crystal peak and I don't have geo for lantern how to return back or get more geo?
Mr. Mushroom
Probably get the crystal heart
the dark room is not easy to do blind
Where is dat
you go to the top where quirrel may be, then right, find a chute down, continue right+down, there will be a opening right to a platforming section, beat it to get crystal heart
You mean the super dash ability?
Its possible to fall into resting grounds from crystal peak and then stag back
im just gonna leave bcs i feel like it this time
How
Hole
Hai fox
Hai fox
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oh ok 👍
a couple servers im in have been having issues with scam bots too so that makes sense
JUST BEAT RADIANT PV
ye we've been having issues too
and only like 20 minutes after beating asc
Gmcb
Gm floggy
🔥🔥🔥
Morning!
@molten yoke hai!
Omg slinky
hi slinky
Hai eloki!
@cobalt crypt hi cheese when cheese
wtf hi slinky
haiii throw!!!
slinky difficulty spreadsheet revival when
slinky is hitless soul sanctum still r4 difficulty
oh my god so true
Hi slinky
Who's slinky again?
Mizuki
Ok
meow
meow
low% godhome ending
Radiant itemless wk ab
I deserve this
i might actually do that
Steel soul base nail 112% godhome flower ending no save scumming
Good luck 👍
after this nail binding p3 i firgot i was doing
In under 50 hours
doesnt actually sound too bad
that is diabolical

nvm base nail godhome
i just benched after grabbing the lifeblood
atp make him do p5 5 times hitless all bindings under fastest time possible
im so good at this game
+-6mmins
The former isn't even that bad 😭
..
Comparatively
Do p5 5 times hitless all bindings under TAS world record
its nothing
yeah but will make your mental health crumble
Like yes its hard asf but its basically just 112 steel soul + old nail p5
hold up lemme grab my invincibility and TAS rq
@tulip narwhal
wait did i forgot to say in a row
To be fair p5 doesn't end a seel soul run so it isn't THAT bad
im not talking about the r5 lol
Im referring to this
ill be there for five years but ill survive
oh
@analog apex
hi wittle puppy
Hi
Under 50 hours remember
i wonder why fish fear you man
RAAAAH
How about for your challenge you COLLECT MY PAGES
FIND THEM
nah man im good
8 OF THEM SCATTERED IN THE WOODS
did not quite get that
Oh ok nvm then
Hello im playing mania.
...
Gm melone
fyck is wrong with u
No melon is actually good
now for the most anoying binding
I just beat pure vessel and I’m about to try P4 again
charms
Im sorry it wont happen again
Huh?
why do i do this to myself
My bad melone -
i missclicked the send button
@melone
Ok that’s fine
fuck you
@naive dew
<@&283547423706447872>
i smurf ur peak
you are not bogur bro
whodat
SIX SEVENNNN LOOOLLL
I looked away for 30 seconds to kill hive knight tf
mod pinging for a 67 gift is too unreal
chomp.
we have to enact fair punishment now
What corty.
Thank you chomp
All 67 should be mod pinged
Except I can make 67 jokes all I want
ok honser
6767676767676767676767
My dumbass nearly died to tpg
Who is that again
grimm
Ok then ping next time 👍
How does grimm get acronymed into tpg
OOOOOOH
Ig there is a p there
The p was slipping me up
idk thats how i saw it abbreviated before
whats a fun hk mod t
any radiance 3.0
hell no
bingoui
whats does that do
as well as other related bingo mods
Pale court
what does it do
wow you new to hk?/
Adds new bosses and charms
ohk
p3 charmless cleared
its basically an expansion which adds the 5 great knights + some abyss stuff
dont forget bout the true ending it ca give?
where do i fight them
ive never played it didnt know there was a new ending
go play the mod
okay
you have to go the ancient basin or smth
abyss?
no not there yet
no bosses in the abyss
is there a way to get 1440x900 resolution on version 1.5.78.11833
man just play it normal
because it looks really ugly whenever i go fullscreen
tfym play it normal
yeah mods can do smth
yeah its kinda annoying it doesnt fit my hole screen
it becomes really grainy
buy a smaller monitor
well it is because it wasn't meant for those res
wow gl man
me when i ask for help and all i get is a "gl man"
it feels so good to use quickslash after charm binding holy
well i did not had any problems with res
then dont answer
am just here for the msg farm and enjoy with plp
lifeblud
fuck it im doing p5 again
Did you downpatch?
did you read the context of the conversation
Nah, I just seen the word modded
just get this dead alr
then read it
I did, I'd say there's something to help with that anyways
atp go play sk
i already 100% sk in normal and steel soul like 3 times and played modded sk as well
wow bet it was fun
indeed it was
all the reruns
lily
@ mods get this gif baned alr
i only had to restart like 3 times tbf
Hi sp
that is impressive
all 3 of those deaths were due to idiotic shit and me trying skips
i had to do around 19 replays in steelsoul
why hornet 1 so floaty
ask the devs
Hornets tend to fly
spiders dont
dang
imagine herrah just booking it for your skull at mach 2
bro is floatier than xero
A type of spider can technically fly
but general definition of spiders does not include the ability to fly
no we are not going there
leme guess Australia
ballooning is completly different than flying
Pings off
oh sry man
we kinda deserve it atp
Whar if that's what Hornet is doing
go play silksong
When Ship can afford it, they will
and when is that ?
-# pings
Idk
alr then gl on that
just change your name to "ship | pings off || or some thing like that
guys pure vessel just whipped me with his tentacles (WHICH HE APPARENTLY HAS??)
any tips 😭
@OFF really isnt that telling
git gud
jump
also git gud
Ship doesn't like how it looks
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Jump, double jump or dash
try predicting and pacing your movements
Isn't it already in your name aswell?
Sorry bout that
Forgot to click
isn't there a way to perma ping off in a server
Yea
There is no way to turn off the yellow you get from a ping
tell me how?
Notification settings
Ship doesn't really care about the notification, it's the yellow tint you get from being pinged
Why does the yellow annoy you?
not that by my side so no ping when replyng
Ship is a bit photosenstive so the yellow hurts to stare at
Alright so PV has 3 phases.
- normal shit
- when it starts doing the focus explosion attacks
- when it whips out the void tentacles.
If you see void tentacles, then congrats! you're really close to beating it. My best advice would be to constantly be on the lookout for it. an indication that it is coming is when PV steps back, that means its either shooting nails or doing the void attack. if it arches itself a little, that means void is coming. Jump over it and use that opportunity to pogo pv and get extra hits in
wait ping me like 3 times
The
Hollow
Knight
E
nv ti doesn't work
There is a way to do it permanently, might also be able to change the ping colour
I'll look it up later and see
not natively
Ik
It's nitro+ stuff apparently
it might be hell for ya in other servers then
Actually, there might be a way with devmode to change the yellow
If there is I'll say
doesnt it have the risk of banning ya
Really? Nitro?
Yep
nitro is to change the background of discord itself
Changing a visual thing on your side? Prolly not
noone fucking cares about it
Even then, you could change the colour of the screen
isnt there a full black bg?
Another reason why the yellow hurts is tjay it constrast with the darker colors, making it more bright than it actually is
wow
hiii
whhen was the last time ya touched @shut ermine
2 years ago when the park still existed
hello
wow
The city doesn't have a lot of grass
yo
hi
Pings off
ok
try touching @shut ermine once a while
Hopefully u know the person lol
did the grass consent?
so close yet far||(am talking bout your name)||
idk
It's a 10 hours drive away
if i were you once a month would sound good for a trip somewhere
where you can touch @shut ermine
HI spaball
i feel kinda bad pinging the guy so much
yo|| (dont quite know you but)|| wasup man
wow
beautiful
question, when the void tendrils show on pv, does it mean ive halfed his health?
on this p5 run i just finished white defender
i cant wait to lose all my health to markoth and die to gpz
@pearl frost
read ts
so ive gotten close to beating it 6 times 😭
7 times now
he always gets me to 2 masks and whips out his tentacles
Nvm im full hp leaving markoth
to be precise it has 1600 hp, and void tentacles come out at 33%, so <=528 hp is still left
meh with shaman stone it'll prob be lightwork
well 528 or less
it isnt forced
ye
@zealous skiff
YEH
Hi
im summoning someone for u rq @trim schooner say hi to this cool dude
I just found it
I wonder if TC still has the old build of Hollow Knight made in a different engine
damn 😭
radiance no diffs
radiance no diffs
gang radiance is massive
jogo when his dream turns into pure white light
the chance of me never getting a boyfriend ( im not into men )
Finish the joke.
lmao
Trenko getting sent to the slab 
gang u could have just said low taper fade now ur getting banished
hello cheese, have a breeze. Don't be a tease, have some trees
OH HE ACTUALLY GOT BANNED
To the slab with them
more like muted
Happens when you ban someone
More like banned
so it twas a ban
damn
i mean was that fair?
idt it warranted a ban
yeah
Third (probably more) time he made an nsfw joke in the past 2 months despite being warned and muted 
If you get multiple logs for the same thing in such a short span of time, the assumption is that you can't behave yourself and you get banned
i mean is it really nsfw if its just "yk what else is massive" without any other context
Except he also made it clear it was meant to be NSFW
Yk what else is massive? The sun
@cobalt crypt
You wanna know what else is massive? My 8 pages
Hey melone
The hk bugs are bigger than normal bugs but still small
Pretty sure that the hunter's march ants are reg ant size
Isn't it both handed? Its shown both right and left
oh i didnt know about the past ones ig it is fair
Haiii sun
hey im currently putting my entire brain to seeing if i remeber you
fair enough
I’ve probably said hai a couple times before, but nothing too recognisable
why is it fair enough
oh i see
Oh that’s js a phrase I say as a ‘cool’ but in a good way. No actual meaning
no like i was asking that because why does it make sense that i dont remeber u cause i use fair enough as in like yeh that makes sense or stuff like that
Cause I’m not that active or recognisable, really. In a 400K+ server, I don’t really stand out. As such, I don’t mind if some find it hard to remember me
okay this is hard but also really fun 😭
What is?
Infinity
??
Hi
GANG HI
mmm yeh
Anyways how you doing?
modded pv
Ahhhh
hk general kinda died
AMAZAING
that's a bummer
Does p5 count towards 112%?
Oooh what’s made you so happy?
no
I am screaming
No don’t need it to get 112%
Thank god I was not trying to do that bs
SO 1. i bought thigh highs and stuff and came out to my parents who support me in the span of like 3 days
Join us here then? It’s better here
Ooooh nice! Came out as what, if I may ask?
a women
I like HK general better. It clicks with me more than HK discussion
Ohhh transfem then, right?
Fair enough
yeh
first time in history hk discussion is more active then sk
Not exactly
It was active when sk wasn't there
AHHHHH 😭
Wat?
inf
-ban @odd salmon d: 3 year r: too amazing and too true
🐦⬛
It's below 300, not electronic, it can zoom
basically a telescope
@bold rose IM BACK
Cool
hi hk disc
show
rare discord W
NO
No clue
nice
Who the fuck even are you
Liar
Glowing womb guy
Li, asc absrad was easier for me
The guy who likes gwomb
my acc got banned but i just appealed it
Fury elegy is certainly a combo
it certainly is
ur gonna have to do nkg eventually
No one can help you now
No i don't
I can just do rad markoth and asbrad
hi
w speed
NKG Radiant isn't that bad
apparently the knight can float mid air
dawg how do you even discover this
my game lagged when i was jumping down
Hmmm
I agree
But i am a NKG fan

ts is beautiful
Ok wrong chat
What mod is this
Game file editing
to do r4
Byee
mreow
hey man
armored loodles
they're not that bad tbh
Is your brightness on 0
they're stupid and random
the game is paused
but easy to deal with, hide under the platforms and hit them from there
I see
||brooding moorlek ||is hell on earth istg
go back to it when you have more upgrades then
it's optional
hitless soul sanctum is harder then tartarus 🙏 🙏
i already killed him toady but it took me like 20 tries 😭
omg your pfp is kaguya!!! did you watch the movie
well brooding mawlek is one of the easiest boss in the game so good luck out there
im so screwed holy
also did i actually have a spreadsheet back then for that shit 😭
yes
whats the most underrated charm combo?
hi focks
hi socks
Stalwart qfocus
i think grubsong + weavesong
The most braindead approach to two-thirds of p5
Oh no that one's just bad
Grubsong is like 80% the strength of that 'combo'
hru
tired
hellooo leon
m,e too
no grubsong makes te spiders able to collect 11 soul per hit
eepy
leon is your full name Leon Scott Kennedy
mhm
No no... You got it wrong...
It's getting soul every 11 hits, not... not 11 soul per hit
oh
Also a chance of this happening
ew redfield
The bloodline must continue
it is best for grounded enemies like hornet or pure vessel or hollow knight
Maybe but it also unstaggers them so like hardly any time to heal
Honestly i'd rather just use grubsong and spelltwister
No not at all
spell twister allows it
Ye exactly
it allows for spell spam tho
i would still rather see someone use weaver+grub synergy than kingsoul
Weaversong is better than Kingsoul
Same for Soul Catcher
Same for Soul Eater
Literally everything is better
Is this ragebait
i fergot
No no they got it wrong, i already told them

Pradhyumna how far are you in the game
I was gonna say “no mind to think” but that’s a bit mean
i used weaver+grub synergy against GPZ because i didn't wanna learn his behaviour
i basically used every single soul based charm against radiant GPZ
so i could spam DDark
His behavior?
Why not learn a good boss
Thats fair
Did you do NKG
i would rather take another 12 hours of attempts against radiant absrad
than touch GPZ again
Fun
i did rad HoG
yo gpz cannot be this difficult
i should really complete Pantheon 5 at some point
did rad HoG but can't be bothered to do P5
Isn't p5 needed for full radhog
see the 109% on my name
Unless mods
If you happen to play mods, then spend a bit of time on AnyZote, or just Absolute Zote
In 10 minutes you will find GPZ free.
'i think they mean beat p5
Oh true
yeah
P5 is needed, but you dont have to beat it
Alright
You just need to encounter Absolute Radiance
Get up to the final fight in p5 which is absrad and you should have everything unlocked
Not beat him
Gpz my beloved
hi leon
🐴
hi leo

Haii Leon and Sonia
Guys I'm fighting a very stupid problem here
Wut is it
I keep mistaking between "spell" and "spell"💔
I'm hk brainrotted
gg

hi leon
Leon why do you hate me
Hi loen
leon 👋
Hai floggy
Floggy 👋
Im so fucking tired of the early game bosses in p5
I love you Leon
oof
Thanks fireborn 
Your welcome
Just fucking die already and let me get to the next boss
Quickslash strength quick focus and stalwart shell
I dont need builds
Abuse iframes, its really funny
Why stalwart shell?
I just want the stupid bosses to shrivel up and die
No, genuinely, use that
It's hilarious
spam ddive until the game forbids you from using it
It looks like a face tank build
Who's that?
you seem to love this emoji for some reason

Ok
So im doing my first steel soul run
HOW DO I GET PAST THE BEASTS DEN?
IM DOING GOOD AND I DONT WANT TO DIE TO THE BIG GUYS
Spell spam
go up from anywhere you see
@plucky pecan
What?
Why cant i join any of the voice chats ?
U need 150 msgs
U have to chat more
We can discuss Hollow Knight here, right?
probably
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Yea, HK and this is basically off topic 2 aswell
That was said by a mod
How can i see how many of these i have
Top right
It's also #self promo sometimes
Search option

Top right of the screen
It shouldn't be tho, maybe for you
I'm new here, and I don't speak English, sorry.
You're gonna have to speak english here.
I miss school for speaking English.
There are certain things I understand, but with difficulty.
If ur active here you'll prob improve
Ye
No he won’t
Hell no
We speak shortened English
I never improve
Ur a native speaker no?
That's still not a problem, as long as he knows to ask
A bit of a struggle, but still very possible
Oh I thought this was abt hk
I don’t believe that discord is meant to help u speak languages
How's stuff going for you Leon?
It's not meant to, but it helps anyway
Its another output for language speech/delivery, and will always help in the long run
Not going to military for now, so thats pretty cool
I see
Where du you live?
Oh yeah I remember u were going in a month or so
I had a very close friend back in 7th grade and we spoke a lot on msg in Eng instead of Vietnamese
It's 40% the reason im here today
Maybe u can try R5 now and ruin ur health 
Thought they said 2 weeks ago
Hmm…
Ehh maybe idk I just remember him saying smthn abt the sort
its just annoying (vfk), not really health ruining
Ye ik just for the joke
Im not saying its the most effective approach, there's always better ones
But as long as you get something out there, you should be alr
Outlook no load
Relatable
this is true
@foggy sable
hiiiiii hru
Hi
hiii
hiiiii like a 9 on the sscale so like not great wbu
stinks never playing before 👀
ohhh
Socrates
Then just become one
...
i to but im only 13
They'll happen when they're needed
true
Across both my accounts I'm at like, 100k+
😮
😭
i dont play hk much anymore
Low-key how does one think 214 is a lot of messages are you 5 or something 😭😭😭
I have 11k and I joined a year after you
I think it's 11 k
i dont type here
i never chat here
That's my point
again, i dont play Hollow Knight much anymore
Playing and chatting are different
Gwnj has never even touched the game lmao
yeah but i chat in my own server
🇱 
What's ur old account
It's deleted cause I lost it years ago
And after 2 years of inactivity, discord accounts get deleted
i mean i know every little detail abt hk, what do i have to discuss
Off topic is there
Oh ok
Is Aubergine also a cheese ?
yeah but, i dont play HK much anymore
It's eggplant
so i wont remember to go in the discord
And gwnj is a mod and she never played the game
😮
Your point is failing
i dont chat cuz i dont
Wait, like, never played?
So WHY would you ever be mod 😭
Giyu.
Gwnj doesn't play games
Huh
Thats new
cuz im awesome
Why wud u even want to be mod if ur not interested in the community
You would talk more if you were
ik
😭
i feel very hard targeted rn
Ah ye gwnj doesnt know im back yet i dont think
Lol unless mods are getting paid then it wud make sense
guys
I wish
hmmmm sure
guys'
Ye no mine makes it worse
how many hours yall got\
300
Iunno 300 maybe it's not really much
like 400
several
377.2
hello everyon
513
I do it like
nah I'm good hk is a bad game
Uh really?
For a living with only 2k hours is insane
Considering my 2 years doing yt... Yeah.
And it's enough to live off of? Wow
bro defff wants to open mod apps for me 
I'd reject you immediately if you applied
Ah, yeah

damn me too
That makes a scary amount of sense
why 
which city are you in?
HCM
You don't even have image perms
And that's all i'll say lmao

Plus I'm pretty sure you're like 10
How old are you
Uhuh 🥀
i'm in Hanoi
Actually, maybe im nearing 2.5k?
I'll never actually know, cuz Steam often desyncs my time and all that
Ah
Bro dipped 🥀
I think I should be having 3k tho lmao
Dashless r5 when
When r u doing dashless r5
sounds unenjoyable
Lame
@shrewd meadow
we've disagreed on many things related to r5 in the past
No it's 18 but I wanted to lie to the guy's face to see what he'd say
Wym
Except for hating on Marmu
On that most of us agree
Ur bad now ?
I hold some disagreed opinions on its difficulty in relation to other runs
I died to cg twice...