hk-discussion

[pliant oxide]

Okay that's better then

[deep knot]

i can get to his first stagger pretty easily and usually that should be enough to let me cheese him

because while i am on OnWs

i can still use like 3 howling wraiths after the stagger

so it becomes easy to stagger him but i just choke so easily

[foggy sable]

this is the clearest example I have
https://youtu.be/ns6CPpP-Akc?si=5X9nhUwBwKtHxoZt&t=2431

it is timestamped\

[deep knot]

it doesn't look like the VS is hitting 3 times there

[foggy sable]

it is

[pearl frost]

ok i officially hate white defender again

[deep knot]

also are u sure that's VS?

[dusky coral]

I hate that he doesnt stagger with ddark

[foggy sable]

you can hear 3 seperate hits

[deep knot]

that looks like shade soul

[pearl frost]

yea

[foggy sable]

anyway that is shade soul but it works with both spells

I know because it is useful for overworld runs

[deep knot]

shit idk. shade soul is bigger

i'll try it.

but like is making VS hit 3 times better than using howling wraiths?

[foggy sable]

do you have vessel fragments?

[deep knot]

nope. part of the challenge

i only have 5 masks. default soul storage

and i'm overcharmed

[foggy sable]

3 hits with fireball is slightly more than 3 hits with wraiths

[dusky coral]

Average silksong experience

[foggy sable]

but less easy

[deep knot]

y'know

i could get some sort of health bar mod and check if the 3 hits work

is there any health bar mod in HK?

[foggy sable]

I think it is just called enemyhpbar

[deep knot]

alright i'll install it

[foggy sable]

you could consider watching a 04r fc clear

[deep knot]

after FC i'll be doin white defender

also can't wait to reach godhome and check out the modded bosses of pale court

[cursive trellis]

i just remember this but in PoP last room when the nail go down i think i pogo off something

[foggy sable]

also fc has an ai manipulation strategy

hm?

[deep knot]

what

[cursive trellis]

Yo

[storm bolt]

weird?

[foggy sable]

if you are further than half the arena away (or something like that) fc will move closer than jump at you

basically you can manipulate the possible attacks under some situations to make the fight easier

[storm bolt]

i'm weird?

[deep knot]

oh yeah i've seen him do that

[cursive trellis]

huh

[deep knot]

he just starts running which is very funny

[storm bolt]

oh

[foggy sable]

I had a sort of strategy here

for someone running low equipment overworld fc

[cursive trellis]

does failed champ got diff moveset from failed knight

[foggy sable]

not really

[storm bolt]

ai manip seems a lil too cheesy for my taste ngl

[cursive trellis]

Where

[foggy sable]

perhaps but I like to offer it as an option

[cursive trellis]

Does he jump to you

[storm bolt]

fair

[deep knot]

damn this enemy HP bar doesn't show pure HP damage

so sad.

[storm bolt]

if i'm correct then fc is beatable with only dash right?

[foggy sable]

no?

you need some damage form

[storm bolt]

i mean that only dash as movement upgrade

[foggy sable]

also either wings and shriek or claw iirc

[cursive trellis]

Time to sleep

[storm bolt]

i must not tell lies

[cursive trellis]

Sharp shadow make you feel weird when dashing when unequipping it

[empty lynx]

I like your pronouns

[storm bolt]

i hate sharp shadow and love every one here

[pearl frost]

ok so erm why is pure vessel aura farming

[empty lynx]

why

[empty lynx]

Why would it not

[foggy sable]

I also dislike sharp shadow

in almost all ways

(except one mainly)

[empty lynx]

not falling for it

anyway sorry hpasi but FUCK sharp shadow

[cursive trellis]

imagine get choosen from millions of vessel i would farm too

[cursive trellis]

I went into an elevator and sharp shadow active the lever lmao

[storm bolt]

well sharp shadow is kind of fun but still useless nonetheless

[deep knot]

i beat fc

[foggy sable]

that was fast

[deep knot]

oh wow there's no audio

[cursive trellis]

Mani wanna play on pc

[earnest apex]

Is that Chara?

[deep knot]

yes

anyways i have over 2400 essences time to make the moth lady disappear

[vernal knot]

Hello everyon

[cursive trellis]

Hi

[cursive trellis]

Why

[deep knot]

why not

[upper remnant]

it's not really good but its better than some other ones ig

[deep knot]

sharp shadow isn't always good but its good when its in the perfect situation

[vernal knot]

ITs bad

[deep knot]

lowkey wish dash master had some better synergy with it

making it do more damage is not really a good synergy

perhaps make sharp shadow and dash master make shadow cloak take less time to recharge

[upper remnant]

that'd give you too many iframes

it already takes a relatively fast time to charge

[deep knot]

true

but y'know

for the cost of 4 notchs

[upper remnant]

ooh

make it so that your sharpshadow extracts soul from the enmy

trust

[cursive trellis]

i cant wait to dash into spike

[deep knot]

hm

[foggy sable]

obligatory downdash sharp shadow

[deep knot]

i have yet to find a use for that

[upper remnant]

perfect for that one place in white palace

[foggy sable]

perfect for uumuu

[deep knot]

well i found a use for downwards shade cloak dash because of pale court lmao

[upper remnant]

??

[deep knot]

oh?

i heard about sharp shadow having some sort of tech for uumuu

but what exactly is it

[foggy sable]

wait someone who hasn't seen it

https://youtu.be/oqSS55lfFfI

a new victim after so long

clearly it is worth using for 4 notches

[vernal knot]

Sharp Shadow sucks

[foggy sable]

you would never understand

[deep knot]

oh. i thought the tech would allow u to attack uumuu without the explosions..

[foggy sable]

nah

[deep knot]

i love glazing sharp shadow but that doesn't look quite useful

y'know i really wanna use sharp shadow in my build but i can't find a way to fit it in

[foggy sable]

the point isn't useful

the point is whether downdash sharp shadow is great

which it is

[deep knot]

lowkey if u down dash with sharpshadow and hit the ground. it should give u more i-frames

prototype DDark

[foggy sable]

wait hang on true

[deep knot]

or like. make it cancelable into another shade dash immediatly

so that if u hit it on an opponent u can immediatly escape

[cursive trellis]

beating hk with only shade dash:

[vernal knot]

bore

[rich stone]

When is downward sharp shadow useful

[foggy sable]

112% with only thorns imo

[foggy sable]

all the time

in many fights

[vernal knot]

Be the change you want in the world

[deep knot]

its so useful u can't even list the usefulness of it

[foggy sable]

I don't want that change in the world

[subtle glacier]

downward sharp shadow is disgusting in pvp

[deep knot]

it would take too long to list the usefulness of downward sharp shadow

[foggy sable]

exactly, I'd be here all day if I tried

all week even

[rich stone]

I have never once used it

[foggy sable]

it has so many uses

[deep knot]

so many

[rich stone]

If you downward sharp shadow into bosses will you have Iframes to leave the boss

[foggy sable]

sometimes

[deep knot]

if u use downwards sharp shadow into the void against radiant absrad last phase it will oneshot her because of a glitch

[rich stone]

Is there actually a glitch like that

[upper remnant]

(no)

[subtle glacier]

mm

no

[foggy sable]

choom

did you see the bingy board I did earlier that we couldn't finish

[subtle glacier]

sharp shadow doesn’t make you dash for longer duration, just longer distance

[upper remnant]

so it makes you faster

[foggy sable]

it was a very fun board but hornet wouldn't spawn

[rich stone]

Which boss is downward sharp shadow most useful in

[foggy sable]

so we couldn't talk to her

[deep knot]

i say this again. downwards sharp shadow should give u extra i-frames if u hit the ground in order to let u escape bosses

[upper remnant]

uumuu of course

[foggy sable]

uumuu

[subtle glacier]

it should? or it should

[rich stone]

How will you use it in Uumuu

[zinc delta]

ngl i'm afking in flashpoint for no reason

[upper remnant]

@rich stone

[subtle glacier]

should like that would be cool or should like i think it does

[cursive trellis]

Explode the bomb thing and phase through uumuu

[subtle glacier]

bc it doesn’t

[deep knot]

like it would be cool

[zinc delta]

i'm bored af

[rich stone]

That make sences I just hit the jellyfish into uumuu with the nail

[upper remnant]

but it explodes on you and you take damage

because you're still in the range of the explosion even when you hit them

because you're so close to uumuu

[rich stone]

That's essentialy like Ddark

[upper remnant]

ddark makes you phase through uumuu and possibly into the void

wait

[deep knot]

yeah but it wouldn't be OP

[upper remnant]

nevermind

im dumb asf

[deep knot]

because it would only do like. 1.5x nail damage (since dash master + sharp shadow has synergy that does that)

[upper remnant]

30 damage with n4

[deep knot]

and it should have less i-frames. just. enough iframes that u can dash to escape from the enemy

[upper remnant]

hmmm

[deep knot]

doesn't sound OP

[cursive trellis]

This sound fun

[upper remnant]

0.4 seconds is dash cooldown with dashmaster btw

[subtle glacier]

would be counted as 32

[upper remnant]

ddark iframes lasts 0.4 seconds

[rich stone]

If you have soul then Shade Soul is way safer

[deep knot]

shade cloak...

shade cloak has its own cooldown

so u wouldn't be able to spam it

[rich stone]

I think it's 1.5 seconds

[upper remnant]

shade cloak counts as a dash does it not

[deep knot]

yeah but like i'm just saying

its not gonna be OP

you're using 4 notchs in order to be able to downwards dash into the enemy for 30 damage

[upper remnant]

or just make shade cloak have a separate cooldown and make it able to connect instantly with a normal dash

but then pairing it with that makes it a bit op

[rich stone]

4 notches for Sharp Shadow and Dash Master is still not that useful

[foggy sable]

no but we can dream

[deep knot]

i know. but it would make it cool

and viable

not useful. but fun

who cares about optimal when u can have fun

[magic storm]

Your mother

[deep knot]

leaving masks shards in this challenge hurts

[rich stone]

What challange

[deep knot]

OnWs No mask shards or vessel fragments

and overcharm

[rich stone]

What is OnWs

[deep knot]

old nail white spells

oh great i just lost 9500 geo in the hive

:3

[rich stone]

What were you saveing so much geo for

[deep knot]

divine

[dusky coral]

how do you lose geo in hive

it's like the easiest area

[deep knot]

overcharmed and only 5 masks

[stark marlin]

no kedge is

[proud haven]

Easiest area is either dirtmouth or kings pass

Imo

[stark marlin]

dirtmouth has 2 bosses, 1 of which is even difficult
so if any, it's kings pass
wait no kings pass is part of dirtmouth

[proud haven]

Grey Prince Zote Troupe Master Grimm and NKG are all hard lowkey

[stark marlin]

tmg isn't bad
I forgot about gpz

[proud haven]

But they're all like quirky optional dlc ones

[deep knot]

the easiest area is waterways

[proud haven]

So at least dirtmouth CAN be the easiest area

[deep knot]

think about it.

flukemarm is coughing baby

so is dung defender

[proud haven]

Omg I was gonna call you dumb but now I've thought about it and you're right fr

[deep knot]

well. wait

it does have white defender technically so.

[stark marlin]

I'd say it's cliffs
it has only 1 dream boss, not sure if any area is lighter than that

[foggy sable]

greenpath

[deep knot]

would u consider white defender easier or harder than GPZ

[deep knot]

true green path is quite easy

[stark marlin]

it has white defender who is harder than gorb

[proud haven]

but cliffs has those two baldurs guarding the charm

[stark marlin]

hmm... hornet and no-eyes right?
is it easier than cliffs?

[proud haven]

Harder than gorb lowkey

[deep knot]

technically speaking. the stag station is its own area since it doesn't have a map

sooooooooooooooooo

[heavy barn]

dirtmouth stag?

that's because because it's inside a building

[deep knot]

no like the stag

[heavy barn]

the stag nest?

[deep knot]

yeah stag nest

[proud haven]

Nah then I'd be like godseeker 2% dream is the smallest area

[heavy barn]

does it not

i thought it used cliffs map

[stark marlin]

Indoors areas we may count as part of where they are accessed

[deep knot]

nope. if u use the map inside it it says u don't have a map

okay well. technically speaking white palace is also easy right?

[stark marlin]

it's part of cliffs

[proud haven]

It told me I had the map and I was a great hero

[proud haven]

No

[stark marlin]

it's part of basin
so bv and lost kin

[heavy barn]

those kingsmoulds are harder than gorb already ngl

[deep knot]

basin isn't that hard

[proud haven]

Technically speaking white palace is hard because it's the hardest platforming in the game fr

[deep knot]

broken vessel and lost kin are honestly not that hard

i'd rather fight them over no eyes lowkey

[stark marlin]

bv and lost kin are not hard, but compare that to gorb and baldur ambush

[deep knot]

okay hm

WAIT. resting grounds

is xero easier or harder than gorb what do yall think

[proud haven]

I think the hard part of basin isn't even the bosses it's the super hellgod fire serpent

Always fucks me up

Bro not being in godhome was such a godsend from TC

[heavy barn]

no it's the shade lord

[grim imp]

I jst got a pc and I already have my hollow knight muscle memory back

[stark marlin]

xero a bit harder but no baldurs there
flower quest is not fair to count as "part of the area"
only there is also revek

[proud haven]

"No it's the shadelord" that's not what I said, that's what you said, so it's wrong

If I had said that I'd believe it

[deep knot]

personally i think xero and gorb are equally as easy but howling cliffs also technically has more enemies than resting grounds so

[deep knot]

oh yeah revek.

[heavy barn]

well you've now said "no it's the shadelord" so you must believe it

[stark marlin]

deepnest has only galienI think
but there is also the traversal factor

[proud haven]

W

Convinced

[deep knot]

it also has nosk

nosk and galien are deff harder than gorb so

yeah howling cliffs seems to be the easiest

[stark marlin]

righty.. then harder than cliffs
uumuu? any thoughts?

[heavy barn]

uumuu easier than gorb is a crazy take

[deep knot]

eh i think gorb is easier

[dawn salmon]

Chat I've almost done it

[forest flower]

Meep

[dawn salmon]

I just beat NKG which puts me at 111%

just pantheon 4 now left

[stark marlin]

what's left? p4?
also how do you go gimm so late

[forest flower]

Prolly like a 1% difference 😭

[dawn salmon]

I forgor 💀

[heavy barn]

fungal is also down there

[stark marlin]

hmm I think if we add fog canyon traversal, cliffs turn out easier

[heavy barn]

and peaks

[stark marlin]

come on there are mantises
is it even a comparison

[stark marlin]

both guardians and crystal mound parkour

[deep knot]

okay what is the hardest area tho

[deep knot]

i assume it would go towards waterways and dirtmouth

[heavy barn]

wait are we talking about area difficulty or difficulty of bosses in an area

[stark marlin]

waterways
bc godhome and white defender

[deep knot]

since they have GPZ and white defender

[deep knot]

oh yeah true.

[forest flower]

Fair

[heavy barn]

dirtmouth also has the grimms

[deep knot]

actually including godhome feels like a cheat

[forest flower]

Godhome lowk just slams everything

[grim imp]

kingdoms edge primal aspids

[stark marlin]

waterways has godhome which has radiant grimms

[deep knot]

i mean god home LITERALLY has all the bosses

[deep knot]

can't exactly beat that in anyway

[heavy barn]

woah, beating buffed versions of every boss in a row is harder than any one boss?

[stark marlin]

it has no radiance and thk
which is not an issue...

[dawn salmon]

Depends which one

With quirrel uumuu is easier

[heavy barn]

kingdom's edge because of pale lurker tbh

[stark marlin]

it's quirrel uuwuu
but gorb still easier imo

[stark marlin]

but we take the difficulties combined
so kedge has hornet 2, pale lurker and colos
and primal aspids

[heavy barn]

i see you've never done speedrunning

normal uumuu is more annoying than godhome tbh

but mostly just if you're going for fast cycles

[stark marlin]

annoyintg order least to most:
godhome, quirrel, pantheon

[heavy barn]

pantheon uumuu is great

[stark marlin]

not when you are me
and use weaversong

[heavy barn]

free soul totem in p3ab

saved me

cause otherwise it's straight from zote to hornet and sly

[dawn salmon]

oh so here's how I beat p3

elite strategy

[zinc iris]

Hi dream

[stark marlin]

zote not in the pantheon

[dawn salmon]

called if you do not fight zote zote does not show up in p3

[zinc iris]

Not playing it

[dawn salmon]

So I beat p3 and then beat zote

[zinc iris]

He is if u save him

[stark marlin]

lemme guess
it was not a facetank

[zinc iris]

And fight him in dirtmouth

[stark marlin]

ah
then my lack of compassion is rewarded

[zinc iris]

[heavy barn]

hi

[heavy barn]

same but i got him for p3ab

cause it feels kinda underwhelming otherwise

[zinc iris]

Did u do P5AB too?

[heavy barn]

nah, stopped after p4ab to do purity

[dawn salmon]

genuine question btw

why is zote in P3 but enraged guardian in P4

[quartz cave]

@heavy barn @zinc iris

[zinc iris]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

hiii hru

[zinc iris]

Fine going to sleep soon

Hbu

Did u break fast yet?

[reef fjord]

Because zote is all powerful and he chooses what pantheon he wants to be in

[quartz cave]

im doing GOOD i passed my thesis defence

[heavy barn]

all harder versions are in p4

[quartz cave]

3 more mins!

[zinc iris]

Congrats

[heavy barn]

hi

[quartz cave]

hii drawf hry

[reef fjord]

My explanation is better

[zinc iris]

So are u a PhD now ?

[heavy barn]

pretty good

[quartz cave]

no its not a PhD guh

im not THAT old

[heavy barn]

true mb

[zinc iris]

So what is it

[heavy barn]

good explanation

[quartz cave]

highschool guh

catch me in 5 yrs when i do my PhD tho

[zinc iris]

U have to defend highschool thesis Sweden built different

[quartz cave]

yes 😭

its a requirement to pass highschool and makes you eligible to university / further studies

[earnest apex]

Which topic is it about?

[zinc iris]

Damn

[zinc delta]

haiii oswald

[quartz cave]

the one i wrote or the one i criticized

[earnest apex]

For your thesis

[quartz cave]

haii hru

[heavy barn]

it's gonna be longer than 5 years isn't it?

4 years of college + more grad school

[quartz cave]

effects of caffeine on short term verbal memory and reaction speed

[earnest apex]

Nice, mine was about Road Education

[zinc iris]

You'd be an expert at this w ur habits

[earnest apex]

[quartz cave]

true it'd take more than 5 yrs but it works a bit differently here

basically it depends on what you study

lets say you go biomed

then you have 3 yrs of college then 2 yrs of PhDing

if you go something else like engineering its 5 yrs + 2 yrs

PhDs are always 2 yrs afaik

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

whats road education

@naive dew

[zinc iris]

So what u gonna break ur fast with

[naive dew]

Hii

[quartz cave]

homemade pizza

[zinc iris]

Cool

[vestal sky]

what flavor

[earnest apex]

A topic where I explained safety and measurement in the field of traffic

[quartz cave]

chimken, and pesto+cheese

[vestal sky]

fire

[quartz cave]

hii hru

[quartz cave]

gn slerp well steve

[earnest apex]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-jobs-thinking-serious-gif-12476291

[vestal sky]

i'm staying awake for another two hours at least you cannot banish me from the waking world by thy tyranny

[naive dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340358564006592594/1467523068804071424/togif.gif

[earnest apex]

Ouch, my tummy is full

:c

I don't want to drink more milk :c

[earnest apex]

Thirteen

[peak atlas]

Wsp niche chat

[proven torrent]

niche community ❤️‍🩹

[vestal sky]

niche community of 15 million players 🌹

[proven torrent]

its very niche

[deep knot]

very niche

[marsh turtle]

E?

[zinc iris]

F?

[marsh turtle]

G?!

[deep knot]

flukemarm is such an easy boss bro

even in OnWs

[frozen storm]

I think you're a little too addicted to kita

Anyways 1

[molten yoke]

Your bio is based

[marsh turtle]

i got 4 cats so far

[agile pewter]

How about itemless.

[deep knot]

so what is itemless?

like no dash? no spells?

[agile pewter]

Old nail

[deep knot]

are nail arts allowed?

[agile pewter]

No dash no wings no claw no spells no nail art

[deep knot]

i mean. flukemarm is still easy yeah probs

i mean its gonna be way easier than any other boss lmao

[agile pewter]

Took me 12 hours.

Im not kidding

[deep knot]

i took that many hours just to do radiant absrad

[agile pewter]

I did anyrad.

[orchid lichen]

Hi, could someone explain to me how to get the Zote menu? 🥹

[fresh isle]

itemless is just like the gear you start the game with lol

[deep knot]

crazy

is anyrad balanced?

like is it just the "Random bullshit go" type of modded boss

or does it actually have fair moves

[agile pewter]

It became more fair after a while

[deep knot]

cool

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/6CPRtkfscqw?si=PObQt9lnO0rojOXd

[vernal knot]

hello everyon

[deep knot]

couldn't u Down pogo + up slash instead of doing those jumping slashes?

[agile pewter]

No?

No charms btw

Like
Whatsoever

[deep knot]

i mean it doesn't sound hard but i'd deff get stuck probs

i don't know how i can even test that

is there a mod that lets u do itemless bosses

[quartz cave]

@agile pewter e

[agile pewter]

Use debugmod to remove everything
And all you have left is your old nail

[deep knot]

oh

[agile pewter]

Again, no movement stuff

It gets real bad, really quickly

[deep knot]

i could win. after like 6 hours maybe

[agile pewter]

Surely.

[deep knot]

surely

[steep sierra]

In p5 wish me luck

[vernal knot]

Good luck

[pearl frost]

so erm reached pure vessel for the second time and got packed up

[tiny yoke]

ASBRAD RADIANT ABSRAD RADIANT

RADHOG DONE

[reef fjord]

Goood luck

[tropic nest]

gg

[frozen storm]

Gg

Almost doing PV radiant

[deep knot]

gg rad hog

[frozen storm]

I'll try radhog someday

[steep sierra]

Guys finally finally i have done it I can't believe my eyes

[tiny yoke]

GG!

[steep sierra]

I can't believe my eyes

[pearl frost]

nice

[clear hornet]

anys tips for pure vessel triple swing attack?

i think this boss is hard only cuz of that move

i cant seem to dodge it perfectly

[raven rock]

pogo

[clear hornet]

but it does damage if im slight behind him

the swing kind of covers his back too

[raven rock]

yeah dont try to attack him from behind

you gotta double jump, pogo, then dash

[agile pewter]

You can pogo it as a way to damage it

[raven rock]

or that also

though keep in mind if you pogo on him long enough he will jump

[agile pewter]

Either you pogo the body, or the pogo hit into the swing, which doesnt do damage but it doesnt damage you for 2 masks either

[raven rock]

for the triple swing I prefer to pogo and then dash

I pogo then attack from behind when he dashes

[clear hornet]

oooo

but its kind of tricky no

[agile pewter]

Its really not.

[raven rock]

I beat him on radiant, it's not that hard

[clear hornet]

its like parrying his attacks right

[upper remnant]

the pogo swing does damage iirc

because pure vessel moves forward before the hitbox disappears

[agile pewter]

Also if you hit into PV's parry, then during the freeze frame, hold jump, you will end up buffering your jump and be above the boss

And then you can pogo

[clear hornet]

ok

[agile pewter]

Sometimes
Sometimes it doesnt because its the tip of the swing

[upper remnant]

fair

[upper remnant]

difficulty is subjective

[raven rock]

true

[agile pewter]

Ye

For me they're all free

[upper remnant]

insert "i spent 10 hours on hornet 1" review here

[agile pewter]

[raven rock]

bro might be a game journalist

[clear hornet]

idk why ts is taking me more time than nkg

[subtle glacier]

the review is a bit more than 10

[raven rock]

I mean to be fair it took me like a week to beat the mantis lords on my first playthrough

[upper remnant]

i think i just watched too many hk radiant runs before even playing the game for the first time😭

[deep knot]

colo2 OnWs

[raven rock]

I had 0 knowledge of what hollow knight was like before I bought it

I hadnt even watched any trailers

I was just taking a gamble

[upper remnant]

lol\

[raven rock]

it was 100% worth it

[clear hornet]

i think i played too many souls game before hk to find it hard

[deep knot]

same.

i saw that silksong was popular and stuff so i tried out HK

[raven rock]

I thought hollow knight was a platformer before I got it

[subtle glacier]

one of the best souls players i know was wrecked by early game hk before they got used to it

[raven rock]

same, I wanted to play silksong but I'd rather play the first game first

[deep knot]

yup

i reached 112% in HK before silksong

[subtle glacier]

different people just find different things hard

[raven rock]

I'm gonna get silksong when I move houses

[deep knot]

both games are very addicting

[raven rock]

rn I'm tryna get void idol

[deep knot]

i got it recently

[raven rock]

nice

[deep knot]

rad absrad was torture man

[clear hornet]

i got wrecked by noone with the only exception of lost kin cuz i didnt knew i had to use defender's crest

[subtle glacier]

you don't have to

[raven rock]

I first tried lost kin by just brute forcing it

[clear hornet]

haha

[raven rock]

didnt try dodging his attacks, just attacked him

[agile pewter]

Kind of a waste to use that charm in lk fight actually

[deep knot]

i never found any boss Hard in the normal overworld

[clear hornet]

i didnt even had first pale ore at that time

[deep knot]

even with OnWs everything in the normal world feels easy.

except for FC of course

[subtle glacier]

i think i remember getting walled by h2 for a bit when i first played

its been a while

[clear hornet]

nkg was the only boss i found peak in this game

[deep knot]

my top bosses have to be NKG lost kin PV and sheo

[clear hornet]

pure vessel giving me good beating but thats only cuz im skill issuing on his triple swing

[upper remnant]

has anyone here cried on their first playthrough of hk

[formal ridge]

warm take but lost kin is staggerslop

[clear hornet]

uhm no...

[formal ridge]

still fun but staggerslop

[clear hornet]

its not that deep

[subtle glacier]

lost kin appreciation in hkmain holy

[clear hornet]

hollow knight fight was kindof sad

[agile pewter]

My favorite are infinity, ancient aspid and immortal light

[formal ridge]

||cloth||

[deep knot]

i love lost kin

[tropic nest]

Lost kin good

[subtle glacier]

lost kin is great

[deep knot]

lost kin is fun

[formal ridge]

true

[upper remnant]

white defender is healthslop and no one can change my mind

[unkempt parrot]

Hello

[deep knot]

everything is stupidslop if i hate it

[formal ridge]

ok my take was stupid but you made it WORSE!!!

also wahts radhog

[deep knot]

GPZ is repositioningslop

[upper remnant]

radiant hall of gods

[formal ridge]

wait i did that

[raven rock]

I havent done gpz

[formal ridge]

one seec

[safe wraith]

Radiant hall of gods

[raven rock]

I never saved zote

[unkempt parrot]

Good

[deep knot]

i fucking hate GPZ

[formal ridge]

let him die

[deep knot]

y'know i just realized i still haven't saved myla i should go do that

[raven rock]

I've only ever done 1 playthrough

[upper remnant]

how does one save myla

[subtle glacier]

with the right gear, soul tyrant and lost kin are like the best bosses

[clear hornet]

atleast im not dying 40 times minimum by every boss like in elden ring

[formal ridge]

never do another one

[raven rock]

dont kill soul master

[subtle glacier]

mag ismas fate

[unkempt parrot]

I forgot About her in my first run

[formal ridge]

ok so there is a save myla%

[deep knot]

soul tyrant is speed slop

[raven rock]

or go to crystal peaks

[formal ridge]

i know nothing about it but there IS a savemyla%

[velvet lichen]

Lost Kin is peak

[formal ridge]

it exists

[agile pewter]

Anyrad top 1

[velvet lichen]

Best HK boss

[formal ridge]

woah woah

[tropic nest]

hog is 44, is zote dead

[subtle glacier]

its the route that gets isma's instead of cdash

[formal ridge]

lost kins good and all but

[upper remnant]

you can save myla but its gonna be hell if ur doing onws since no crystal dash or ddive

[formal ridge]

44 including zote?

[velvet lichen]

Not the best boss from the entire series, but the best boss in the first game

[formal ridge]

isma doesnt trigger myla?

[upper remnant]

wait its 44?

[formal ridge]

cz yeah i did zote too

[subtle glacier]

soul master makes her stop mining, cdash makes her hostile

[upper remnant]

what if you get cdash without soul master

because its possible to enter peaks with lantern

[formal ridge]

i think it auto hostiles?

[subtle glacier]

cdash makes her hostile

[upper remnant]

oh

[formal ridge]

yeah

[rare aurora]

myla%

[subtle glacier]

its not progressive

[subtle glacier]

early game slop

but good practice

[clear hornet]

does pure vessel heal when he does that cirrcle thing???

[upper remnant]

i feel bad for the first time hk players getting lantern and then getting absolutely dumbfucked about why myla just started throwing pickaxes at them

[tropic nest]

No

[formal ridge]

nope

[clear hornet]

it looks like hes focusing soul

[formal ridge]

he is

[proven torrent]

that would be very unfair

[raven rock]

why would he

[formal ridge]

hes just focusing it into attacks

[raven rock]

he is

[proven torrent]

because they are lol

[clear hornet]

cuz he is also like us?

[proven torrent]

focusing soul isnt always for healing

[clear hornet]

and we do the same thing to heal

[upper remnant]

well fuck you, hollow knight challenge bosses are supposed to be unfair
makes mod
/j

[formal ridge]

ok so you see

[proven torrent]

uh huh..

[formal ridge]

you dont have to heal when focusing soul

vengful spirit is you focusing soul

[clear hornet]

i meant the animation

[formal ridge]

idk then

[agile pewter]

I think one of the pv mods does that, idk which tho

[proven torrent]

who's to say focusing soul has to look a certain way

[agile pewter]

Or maybe im wrong

[formal ridge]

dont think so

[agile pewter]

I'll ask suscat later ig

[upper remnant]

it would be funny if they added that to boundless infinity

[subtle glacier]

i also think there was a mod where he does heal

[agile pewter]

Surely it's funni

[clear hornet]

i think pure vessel might be harder than nkg but nkg is still cooler

[proven torrent]

nkg is pretty easy lol

[upper remnant]

and more repetitive...

[proven torrent]

its just a faster grimm that does more damage

not dat bad

[clear hornet]

well this entire game is easy

nkg just happens to be the hardest for me yet

[subtle glacier]

raikg fate

[proven torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-phone-speed-legendary-stream-speed-phone-gif-4108923420328591811

[clear hornet]

i think pure vessel is gonna beat him tho

[upper remnant]

"entire"
p5ab

[clear hornet]

in difficulty

[proven torrent]

"the game is easy this boss is just really hard"

so the game is hard..?

[agile pewter]

Ah yes the "sprintmaster dashmaster" fight
I remember that

[clear hornet]

its like 10 tries yet dude

[agile pewter]

[subtle glacier]

dont think sprint is necessary

i did dmaster sshadow

[upper remnant]

the what

[agile pewter]

Yes it is

Its really funny

[clear hornet]

no one boss doesnt make an entire game hard.

[subtle glacier]

tfym yes it is :(

[upper remnant]

it depends on which boss it is

[proven torrent]

just sounded contradictory

[upper remnant]

if it's the first boss in the game yeah it kinda does

if it's the hardest then not really

[worthy peak]

okay the thing that was said was 'hardest' which doesnt require something being hard

[clear hornet]

idk this game is literaly slice of cake if we remove pantheons

[proven torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-adele-instagram-live-adele-funny-adele-meme-adele-instagram-live-meme-gif-17749583282621837294

[clear hornet]

that isnt even part of main story

[agile pewter]

The master charms combo just makes the absolute inferno king grimm fight free

[proven torrent]

ofc the game is gonna be easier if you remove the main challenge lmao

[subtle glacier]

https://youtu.be/g0UEzLFIp6s?si=mODHkpr3zs9mourB&t=220

[agile pewter]

On radiant, no less

[subtle glacier]

timestamped charms

[clear hornet]

dlc arent main challange

other soulslike are way harder in their main content

[formal ridge]

is it playable on ds

[subtle glacier]

what

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/RTYYHN70HUU?si=yMwhx1bJLtONGDtf

[proven torrent]

then go play another soulslike if you want difficulty

[clear hornet]

why u got offended lol

game doesnt need to be difficult to be great

[proven torrent]

im not?

[clear hornet]

hk defo my #4 soulslike

[agile pewter]

Aura farming the modded boss with my zoomies

[keen thorn]

Are we doing a rad AIKG video showcase?
https://youtu.be/KqpmX1LrIw0?si=ThH1whHiuF7N6mvu

[subtle glacier]

is bro a lop glazer

[agile pewter]

[subtle glacier]

i linked a kill bc lemon thought sprintmaster was required for rad and i think it activated his self promo instinct

[keen thorn]

Sprintmaster in aikg?

[clear hornet]

i believe that hollow knight might have the hardest mods ngl

[keen thorn]

Nahhhhh

[dawn salmon]

yeah I have seen some of these mods they seem pretty nuts

[agile pewter]

Its required specifically to make the boss an absolute joke

[keen thorn]

Only 2.0 and 3.0 are that insane
Decomaster levels are less mods more community levels

Like gd

[upper remnant]

why does aikg actually look semibeatable

[agile pewter]

Rock bottom

[upper remnant]

for me

[keen thorn]

Because it's free

[clear hornet]

no like forexample most of the insane difficulty sekiro mods are just unplayable for sane people

[agile pewter]

Its really just nkg 1.5

[clear hornet]

hollow knight's mod looks fair and way more difficult

[upper remnant]

now nightmare god grimm on the other hand...

[keen thorn]

So sekiro mods are harder

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/8PJpJupWDmc?si=AT9FlVa0DdBjCviD

[clear hornet]

yea

[keen thorn]

3.0 is on that boat, you cannot call that fair

[upper remnant]

yeah i watched that eariler

[agile pewter]

Not that free of a boss

[clear hornet]

but they are unplayable

[carmine lava]

leon when’s the next video

[agile pewter]

Uhhh like a month from now or something

Actually i need to be back at my house first, which, im not rn

[dusky coral]

Pale king should've just used AI to make a vessel

No mind to think

[agile pewter]

Will be a couple more days

[clear hornet]

how many phases does pure vessel have?

like how many staggers

[tropic nest]

staggers are based on hits, not hp
better to use focus (~66%) and tendrils (~33%) as health indicators

[heavy peak]

is shakespear really dead gif

[clear hornet]

tendrils? ig i havnt reached that yet

[upper remnant]

he should've fed them brainrot

oh wait no that gives them a voice

[agile pewter]

3 phases
If you see focus rings, phase 2
Void tendrils then phase 3
But ye, not something you could simply track by the staggers

[upper remnant]

btwany tips on rad gpz i am throwing so much rn

[clear hornet]

can we heal during that ring stuff

[upper remnant]

yes, right outside the circle

[agile pewter]

Yes, but i dont recommend
You have to do it really early, otherwise its a 50/50 you get hit

[clear hornet]

or should i just focus on spamming shade soul when he shoots his spikes

[tropic nest]

dive then spam nail

[upper remnant]

wait guys
immortal build
stalwart, deep focus, carefree, grubsong, sporeshroom

[agile pewter]

Deep focus actually makes it worse
Quick focus, not deep

[keen thorn]

Stalwart quick focus and whatever you want for soul is more immortal

[agile pewter]

Qf and stalwart already is... Ye what the sun said

[pliant oxide]

@agile pewter just finished watching that one video you made about the "trial of the m@sochist"

Now give me TWO reasons

to subscribe :)

[agile pewter]

No

[formal ridge]

wait

[agile pewter]

[formal ridge]

ITS YOU

[pliant oxide]

What the fuck do you mean no twin???

[formal ridge]

YOUR THE GU

i fw you dude ur tuff

[pliant oxide]

okay reported

[pliant oxide]

WHAT RHE FUCK????

HELLO?????

[formal ridge]

its not weird what

[tropic nest]

?

[upper remnant]

i don't think you understand the slang

[agile pewter]

Yeah no, its one of the shorter delays ive seen, no worries there

[clear hornet]

ok yea im messing up alot

[pliant oxide]

I do, but this one can be taken out of context heavily

[clear hornet]

this is defo harder than nkg

[upper remnant]

fair

[pliant oxide]

"I fuck with you dude"??

[tropic nest]

not really?

[pliant oxide]

That could just be me

But it's more of an old acronym now so people probably forgot about it

[paper narwhal]

It’s supposed to imply that “your cool” or smth

[pliant oxide]

Intentions are different than words?

[proven torrent]

what r u talking about bro

[paper narwhal]

I figured

[subtle glacier]

also like you don’t say you fucked with someone to mean you had sex with them

[pliant oxide]

Also what is this conversation bro💔

[subtle glacier]

you started this shit

ignorant

[proven torrent]

😭

[dusky coral]

No lol

[agile pewter]

I will say that its one of the weirder slangs ive ever heard

But i have heard it enough to get used to that saying so

[upper remnant]

can we tune this shit down please

[dusky coral]

saying you fw someone is a way of saying they're cool

Idk where it came from or how

But i fw with it

[paper narwhal]

say you “fw hollow knight” it would mean you like playing hollow knight

[tropic nest]

atm machine

[pliant oxide]

Just say they are cool?

[paper narwhal]

ppl have different slangs it’s probably just first thought

[proven torrent]

mate its just slang

[subtle glacier]

cool is slang

[proven torrent]

idk why ur so pressed

[subtle glacier]

are you saying they’re cold? are you stupid?

[dusky coral]

Let's just get rid of slang altogether then, speak in complete formal english 🤩

[subtle glacier]

do they need a jacket? i’m concerned

[paper narwhal]

I agree with this amazing statement my server based accomplice

[pliant oxide]

Twin I'm just commenting about the fact someone wouldn't understand it

[dusky coral]

everyone in this chat understands it

[pliant oxide]

You are the one making it seem like I'm making a scenery

[verbal pasture]

Facts choom

[pliant oxide]

I just said "WHAT THE FUCK?"

[verbal pasture]

Idk what this argument is about but choom is my goat

[subtle glacier]

that person is your twin???? you were born consecutively from the same womb???

[dusky coral]

you are tho

[fervent geyser]

jevil is so gay

https://tenor.com/view/rayman-gif-27517682

[pliant oxide]

Correct

[fervent geyser]

damn\

[proven torrent]

rip no perms

[pliant oxide]

Only because you are arguing with me about this😭

[fervent geyser]

i know

[agile pewter]

We're talking about making a fair 3.0 ver

[proven torrent]

how about you both drop it!

[agile pewter]

Also how dumb rb is

[dusky coral]

oh hello there

[pliant oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/jevil-deltarune-gif-10807105469650085344

[fervent geyser]

what do i need to do to get perms??

[tropic nest]

300 messages

[fervent geyser]

):

I STILL DIDNT DO IT

TF

[proven torrent]

hey

[fervent geyser]

pure chaos

[dusky coral]

been a bit

Haven't seen you around

[pliant oxide]

Okay leon you aren't cool, conversation ended

-# like he has anything to do with this, but I'm saying it for the funsies

[near thunder]

finally beat the trial of the fool for that sweet 112%

[subtle glacier]

you don’t fuck with leon?

[fervent geyser]

bro's onto smth

[pliant oxide]

I only watched like two videos from bro😭

[subtle glacier]

that’s crazy

bro is NOT leon’s special little subscriber

[dusky coral]

leon makes cool shit

[pliant oxide]

Hollow knight just got immediately on my feed after watching one video

And it's CRAZY bro

[keen thorn]

We need a fair rb ver

[thin violet]

what is rb :?

[pliant oxide]

8 billion fireborn speedruns

[agile pewter]

https://youtu.be/oMymXRGsAYY?si=MHV6E0UPoAoaUFGq

[agile pewter]

Ye that's never gonna happen

[fervent geyser]

btw can i check somehow how many messages till gif perms?

[agile pewter]

[pliant oxide]

@agile pewter mind explaining what THAT is?

okay bro we are making wild names now

[thin violet]

gotcha

[pliant oxide]

But I guess I'm not?

[agile pewter]

What's THAT? :|

[proven torrent]

dont think u can sadly

[tropic nest]

search with the from: filter
you have 294

[proven torrent]

or that yeah

[pliant oxide]

"Leon's special little subscriber"

[fervent geyser]

jevil

spamton

tenna

[proven torrent]

dont think farming works

[fervent geyser]

gerson

[pliant oxide]

No nonsense talking dude..

[dusky coral]

path of....what the fuck is that bro 😭😭

[pliant oxide]

Also why is it just deltarune terms😭

[fervent geyser]

we'll see (rudy)

[proven torrent]

okay

[pliant oxide]

Lore accurate pop

Or as I would like to call it: "leadment of neverending agony"

[upper remnant]

oh it's the... birthplace thing

[fervent geyser]

W.D. GASTER

https://tenor.com/view/rayman-gif-27517682

[grim sage]

hi I'm doing steel soul rn, I just beat hornet, what's the fastest way to access to eternal rest please ?

[fervent geyser]

FAHHH LETS GO

[fallow grotto]

get the debug mod to cheat is the fastest way 💀

[agile pewter]

Oh wait
@verbal pasture yo rb vid is nearing 30k views

[proven torrent]

boooo

[keen thorn]

Teano I don't like it here

[grim sage]

not fun bro

[proven torrent]

tomato tomato tomato

[fallow grotto]

he asked for the fastest way!

[proven torrent]

🍅

[grim sage]

legit way pls

[fallow grotto]

any way is legit as long as you yourself believe it to be.

[subtle glacier]

without dying, it would be getting tram pass or lantern, depending on where you’re starting

[grim sage]

trought the snowey zone ? or city of tears?

[grim sage]

wdym "where you're starting"

[pliant oxide]

What's eternal rest again?

[grim sage]

where u get dream nale

[pliant oxide]

That's called resting grounds

[thin violet]

resting grounds they mean

[grim sage]

same thing

idk in french it's "eternal rest" translated in french

[subtle glacier]

the fastest way to china from korea is going west
the fastest way to china from mongolia is going south

[pliant oxide]

i would recommend getting some upgrades if you are bad at the game

some masks and vessel fragments

[grim sage]

let's say that I just started and I speedran to hornet so I just got greenpath "unlocked"

[grim sage]

don't need it

[pliant oxide]

Probably jonis blessing for this next part works best though

[pliant oxide]

Okay just get claw first

[grim sage]

ill go full naked trust

[subtle glacier]

then getting mantis claw into tram pass while keeping your bench at queens station

[pliant oxide]

Buy fragile greed

[upper remnant]

yo WHAT happened to monarch wings

[verbal pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duck-angry-meme-gif-25118227

[pliant oxide]

Grind the moss knights in greenpath

Like the ones above the stag

[verbal pasture]

Never talk bad about my beautiful child rb again

[pliant oxide]

There are two

[subtle glacier]

after tram pass you stag to crossroads and take the tram to resting grounds

[grim sage]

then which tram do I take

[subtle glacier]

the upper one

[grim sage]

alright tyty

[subtle glacier]

crossroads

[pliant oxide]

Buy the lantern and head to the crystal peaks

[agile pewter]

You have to unlock it on the way
Its what i was doing for the whole vid
Getting pogo then fireball then dash, etc.

[grim sage]

I died to the stupid ghosts this morning btw (the ones before the soul boss) lol 😭 I had 3hours

[upper remnant]

ah i see

[pliant oxide]

Either get c dash and use the gruz mother's wall to enter the blue lake room

OR drop straight down to resting grounds from crystal peaks

These are the fastest

[grim sage]

u can do that?

[pliant oxide]

Yes you can

[subtle glacier]

it’s slower than tram from greenpath tho

[pliant oxide]

Deepnest is just a really frustrating place

I really hated it

It's better to be safe

[grim sage]

isn't the tram pass down down down ? sounds slower than crystal peaks

[subtle glacier]

lantern is 1800 geo

[verbal pasture]

Yooooo

[subtle glacier]

which is slow

[verbal pasture]

Rb popping off

[pliant oxide]

You can grind that in like 10 minutes though

[grim sage]

I did it on my first steel soul try and it was easy tbh but it took much time

[verbal pasture]

One day te ano will stop being a bum and clear lunec

And then it’ll get 1 million views

[subtle glacier]

tram pass from mantis claw should take like 2-3 minutes

[pliant oxide]

The moss knights in green path with fragile greed drop 104 geo for each run

[agile pewter]

One day you'll make le fair

[pliant oxide]

It's faster, yes, but I would rather be safe😭

[verbal pasture]

Nope

Lunec was made mainly for te ano

[agile pewter]

Welp

[grim sage]

no I wanna make it spicy

[subtle glacier]

good thing the question was the “fastest way”

[verbal pasture]

He has expressly asked me to not nerf anything

[agile pewter]

And hes NOT even doing it lmao

[grim sage]

I'll go for the safe way for the silksong steel soul

but hk is easy

[pliant oxide]

Okay do that then

[verbal pasture]

I’ve asked him a couple times after release if it was too hard and he said it was fine and he wanted it to not be changed :/

[pliant oxide]

But make sure to get crystal dash after

It gives you access to many skips

[verbal pasture]

He’s probably just busy or something

[agile pewter]

Ye

[grim sage]

¨what's "that" lol yall gave me many anwsers

tram ?

[subtle glacier]

tram is fastest

[pliant oxide]

Yes the tram passway

[grim sage]

aight

[agile pewter]

He's been busy irl last time i checked

Very busy

[bold rose]

Hello!

[tropic nest]

[subtle glacier]

• get claw
• bench queen’s station
• get tram pass
• quit back to queen’s
• stag to crossroads
• tram to resting grounds

[grim sage]

tytyty !

[verbal pasture]

Changes made:
-Orb and beam star in subphase 1 appear at least 6 units away from the player
-Removed portals

It’s that easy

[pliant oxide]

Or just use the wall cling storage from gruzmother after getting claw..

[verbal pasture]

I’m pretty sure the fight becomes fair after this

[pliant oxide]

-# it's not humanly possible don't actually try it lmao

[verbal pasture]

And talez made that version with those changes for me

[bold rose]

What is this for

[pliant oxide]

Getting dn

[bold rose]

I know that but for what limitation

[subtle glacier]

someone asked for the fastest path to resting grounds from dash on steel soul

[pliant oxide]

Just the fastest way

[agile pewter]

So have you checked the mod yet or still waiting for talz

[verbal pasture]

No she sent it in mod discussion

[bold rose]

Probably get lantern and crystal peaks falldown?

[verbal pasture]

I’m going to try it out in a minute

[subtle glacier]

tram is faster

i’m so tired of saying this i’m making a “tram is faster” button

[pliant oxide]

Crystal peaks could be faster actually

I just forgot where some items are

[subtle glacier]

it’s not

[pliant oxide]

They could have enough geo to 1800 and just sell rancid eggs

Or have a good amount of grubs already

[subtle glacier]

they only have access to 1 egg

from sly

[pliant oxide]

it's rng based 🤷

Yeah no tram is still probably faster

The geo route is way too tight