#hk-discussion
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vro quill is useless so my brother says
... Okay who are you fighting
the lack of job😭
Used commas and everything
I am trying to Fight NKG, Or any boss that can give me a Big boost
I fear this man
anyways shaman is a great charm and nothing anyone says will change that 
I am 15, I ain't old enough for a job
i didnt mean literally
pretty sure you can get a job at 15
like ony babysitting
WHAT IN THE ORANGE JUICE… HOW IN THE CINNAMON VESSEL DID U TYPE THAT IN UNDER 1 HOUR!?!?
Shaman overrated
what is this
I told another person I just copy and pasted it, With minor editing
I do think shaman is overrated
Charm usage in R5, the most optimized challenge with charms
the list is right strength is so underrated compared to shaman…
but mostly because for the majority of players a lot of soul is going into healing
Well i don't think nkg will give you a big boost but i'd run strength quick focus and anything you are comfortable with
“steady body 63%” holy dumbass
“pro use it=good”
so in endgame when nail + healing build is an option shaman is rated higher than it should be for most people
Uhhhhh yeah
i didnt say its a bad charm its in my build too
Okay that is literally how it works
its still overrated and this is proving my point lol
Oh, I also defeated Lost Kin in 2 tries
you never really had a point to begin with but i digress
you didn't even explain why shamman isn't " that good " in the first place
in overworld shaman is the best charm by a long way though
shrueee
Genio didnt see my ping
Oh yeah not even close
but I would say for most people in godhome it isn't in the top 4 at least

facts
for nkg, I recommend qf, strenght and maybe shaman stone
yea
That's why I hate more saves
facts
Yea no that's fair
Saying it's not that good straight up is crazy tho
for nkg i use waywar and gathering swarm
oh it is still very good
im ok
That's because top 5 is flukenest quickslash strength fury
Shade soul is a fuckin' behemoth with it afterall
And then shaman
no greed?
I don't think you are listening
I got coiled nail btw
when you talk about optimal play yes
grubsong>>>>>>>>>>>>
HOWEVER
thats the best build
not all play is r5
I mean most godhome players arent running flukenest and fury but yeah
yeaaaaaaaaaa
Yeah just depends on how long it takes i think, i did sub 10 in like 2 or 3 hours so it wasnt too bad and still actually kinda fun
fury in r5?
if someone asks for a p5 build you aren't going to say run fury are you
or flukenest
grub song is awsome
0 arguments against it
here's one
well flukenest yes
Who is using grubsong in the big 25
i like shade soul shaman and spell twister, then you dont have to really even play the game anymore in overworld
and no sprintmaster or kingsoul?
26*
its 2026 luri
and a lot of people are
oh shit right
Do I need to show a screen shot of my Game?
Yea sure jay
We should stop recommending flukenest in general those strats are so fucking unfun its actually crazy
Alright, As soon as I arrive home, Screen shot time
i enjoy flukenest its do satisfying
grubsong obsolete in anything higher than attuned because of better soul gen options and little to no opportunity depending on what you are doing to tank hits for soul
I wanna play the game not memorize a setup, press a single button and just win
“thing that gives you soul for getting hits is obsolete in no hit runs” sherlock
I don't really use charms for Spells, I just use nail when fighting
Only place i'd use grubsong is colossuem tbh
and in general grubsong is outclassed by other soul gen options anyways
Other than that it's not worhh it
ascended fight with grubsong are just as fine as attuned
give me one example
Its a single notch it barely matters what you put in there anyway
I use nail when fighting, And I do a lot of pogoing, Despite this, I suck at pogoing off spikes
dream wielder
dream nail
Using your normal nail even
its cheap AND peak AND early game, what else could you need?
Its just that one slot you have to fill you can use like, genuinely everything that isnt dcrest or toa and youll be fine, and you can even use dcrest for lk and bv
Quickslash
Soul catcher
Dreamwielder
2 nail hits
Soul eater (that's it's own league anyway)
how is it better exactly?
shaman is the best charm
because it gives more soul
none of these are better actually
you can still hit enemies with grubsong on
Might look like it at first but then again it's general soul gain and without getting hit
None of these are "better" they literally are a completely different way of gaining soul lmao
keyword: notches
also true
dream wielder is also 1 notch and nail hits are free it came with your kings pass even
Okay, Question, I am just wondering, How much attack damage is increased when Unbreakable strength and Fury of the fallen are active
dream wielder better than grubsong
You can still do nail hits with grubsong, you can also still dnail, these mechanics do not overlap in any way
Oh 100% any day
ikr?
magic things
Anyone gonna reply to this?
grubsong is fine but i dont wanna be practically rewarded for getting hit tbh which is why i prefer much better soul gen options
+170% roughly
Ooooooh
since you WILL get hit tho, make the best of it
its awesome
Yes once sufficiently high level of play is achieved and getting hit becomes rare grubsong isnt worth it anymore ofcourse, before that its totally fine
i wish fury would increase spell damage as well
terrifying
I also thing the r5 charm list is a stupid way to show which charms are best
it already increases narts damage
because qf is pretty agreed upon to be good
what more could you want?
i have almost any achievement one could have and still get hit a LOT, playtime≠number of hits
Oh definitely, its all about context
True
Then again it's not toa so i guess low B
and also hitless runs inherently overweight shaman
because soul has no use other than spells
thorns is amazing because its the only charm that punishes you for getting hit and continues to encourage you to be hit anyways
truly innovative design
why would a super specific category of a super specific area be a measurement
lol
Indeed, hitless charm builds in general do not translate to normal players lol
Every single charm should have just make life worse somehow
it’s crazy anyway that they managed to make charms worse than dreamshield
they did?
yea thorns of agony
they all do this because using them means playing hollow knight
Shaman Stone: +50% damage to spells, +100% shade soul size, -100% movement speed
id say thorns?
which makes life worse
Thoughts and opinions
One howling wraith and absrad phase 1-2 is dead/j
no thorns of agony is worse than dreamshield is what they mean
make it -200%
too boring it should instead invert movement controls
just in case
So you move backwards?
Dash spam
atleast dreamshield doesn't lock you in place when it works 
Nah make it add the dark souls 1 limited spell usage mechanic instead
yea im saying i disagree
Yea to be honest I can get behind inverted controls
also quickslash how about a quickcast charm
Yea you just high tbh
fucking wish
quickcast charm
The humble F button (was it F? Idk i play mobile)
surely most op
dreamshield only hurts you in the charm notch and soul gen department
-# technically
carefree should make the jump button not work 10% of the time scaling up each time it works
😡
i like the way you think
is it a bad idea to try dreamshield only markoth 
look man i pinged mods about it at some point
ermm its ACTUALLY rmb for me please respect keyboard + mouse players too
If fragile strength breaks when you die I think unbreakable strength should have made it so the game has a chance to uninstall itself every swing instead
Zal literally said "Yea go fuck all just remove that port tag"
peak config
Trying to dodge and getting a 10% dash length roll fuuuuuuuuck
sharp shadow is detrimental enough already
but the uumuu strat!!!!!!
dont insult my beloved sharpy shadow
they could include all these things in a battle pass
I like this idea
only if its battle pass exclusive
oh i should just put on carefree then, this wont affect my gameplay at all 
It's like B for me (controller)

heavy blow should alternate pulling and pushing the enemies
ew
Changes depending on which way you're facing, just to reference abyss shriek
what's worse is tc merging both heal and spell in one button
BUT i can flex p3 on switch with 230ms and broken jump button
nah it should function like how wraiths’ push pull does
i forgor genios explanation of it. whatever that is
compass should be like google maps and always be off by a little bit
You still remember my explanation tho
Yeah
"it does it literally however the fuck it wants"
I don't mind that as much as accidentally ddarking over a pit when I want to shadesoul or just accidentally hit b while pogoing
i mean thats practically true even
Also has an arrow to tell you where you're facing but it's always rotated by some random angle
so true
and slowly drift over time due to the changing north pole
all summons now have collision
I have died to markoth via ddarking into a pit while pogoing on him
add a 2 second delay on all spells
I am also very dumb
elegy removes the main nail and only is the beam
Can you pogo on them or do they just block you for fun
eughhhh
glowing womb with friendly fire
Grimmchild
How many rounds of flames do i need to fight nkg
stays grimmchild
Flukenest is just all glitches are fixed
grimmchild gets an accuracy nerf
how did the word beam instantly make me think of miku
I'm not even a big vocaloid fan
You need to only fight 2 ghosts and find 1 in distant village
all aoe now also affects the player
gathering swarm should have the geo not go to the knight but orbit you in a really awkward way
So only 3 flames needed before i fight him?
I think glowing womb would be awesome if instead it could only have 1 minion active at a time but it scaled with how much soul it used upon spawn. So if you have a lot of soul womb could use an entire vessel and make a very large minion
This includes the lingering fluke hitboxes
and can accidentally hit the player 
glowing womb...
defenders crest color is changed to blue because idk its a nice color : )
How hard is nkg
...we can leave it be
Please my giant minion idea is awesome
double soul cost and friendly fire
Pretty damn hard the first time you fight him
then dcrest + flukenest synergy ACTUALLY becomes the bugged one
hard
How many tries did it take you
iiiiii don't remember
glowing womb is 100% op and needs a nerf 
Around 15 i think? Idk
6-7
defenders crest now synergises with nail hits
thorns now has 4cticks of damage in rxchange for using all of your iframes
sorry bro
fair enough
dream shield is kinda heavy and it’s gravity affects you
while you have strength on no spells
Okay kinda adorable
getting hit with baldurs shell active increases knockback taken
what if dreamshield added markoth spikes?❤️🩹
You still heal faster with QF but you need to release the button to apply the HP. There's no indication and if you hold for too long you just keep sucking soul
i want to watch anyrad players fall off climb 
that’d be really cool actually
It's so tense
off the phase 1 arena*
quick focus removes quick cast
you dont really use baldur on ground
its already like this
I like the simplicity of it
until you misclick on absrad stagger and die
Oh wait I'm not supposed to make these jokes in this server oooops
hiveblood makes you stick to everything for a little bit
how could you …
wait thats good
what could you possibly have said
fr bro
ikr
oh oops
specifically getting hit in white palace to a hazard makes you respawn there once more to take 2 hits of damage total bc you are stuck there from the honey
charms already have a downside soapi
get hit to sawblade spawn in sawblade once again
What would they be Sonia
they make you play hk
its perfect
grr😡
accidentally cooked
it could just randomly decrease your jump height by sticking you to the floor
ez
vengeful now knocks you back 3 times more
that’s also OP
Movement has 100ms ping but everything else doesn't so you have to adapt to varying delay on Hiveblood
this changes nothing
@dusk mango
literally nintendo switch experience
last boss of p4 is pure vessel right? he hard?
this is beneficial in some cases even
he pretty hard
fireball skips become free
with our suggested nerfs he’s pretty hard
fym
is it not helpful for some skips?
exactly
I have strenght, qslash, qfocus and longnail...
hi chat
u dead
itemless blss salubra and greenpath skip become free
well good to know
well itemless -VS
“itemless”
oh yea

itemless salubra easy as fuck anyways
is 4 notches, 0 nail upgrades and 5 masks good or bad for tl?
saying dashless clawless sucks
its fine because TL is free anyways
and monarch wing less
just takes 1 thousand years
is 3 masks 1 notch 0 spells good for rad pv?
dashless clawless wingless cdashless ismaless blss
yes
and nmms
fuck zote
fr
why did we switch to ag nmms all of a sudden i thought this was nmg
fireball only blue lake shade skip is kind of free
itemless is the hard one
itemless is garbooooo
i'm at 1 mask now
i truly hate any skip without claw
salubra% speedrunners like myself would disagree
hop on SBRCO
fascinating category
you have 100% wr if youre the only one doing it
did i activate a mod
cant argue against that
yellow role think he can talk to me like that🫵😂

idk i made it up but i think that would be the case
?ban
The ban command is disabled in this server.
tbh
is it normal that my game lags a lot during pv fight? it is smooth normally...
Trying P5 again after losing to Markoth yesterday chat. Wish me luck if
lower settings
good luck
good luck
i currently hold the world record for is this loss %
Am I going to win? - no I’ve beaten absrad once 3 months ago.
Will it be fun - no
sighhh where did the greys and luris and sonias go
i have wr for opensettings%
nowhere
I am meant to be asleep ages ago
Elderbug is literally the smartest bug in this game
He knows if he went down the well he is gonna die
but 4 hours ago I started a run I'm yet to finish
good NIGHT gre y
he is elder for a reason
elderbug is very young actually
one of the younger characters

🤓
bro thinks he's cool
i dont talk to elderbug
im playing with fire
get it? cause u hot as hell~
you know what they say about playing with fire
You become grimm
don't flirt with me you're gross
dw bro you still got me
Ion wanna do the other bosses :(
pv easily
HOW DID YOU DO TYRANT
He takes too fucking long to kill :(
TELL ME
I literally don't even know that fight went on for like 8 minutes
like, 6 minutes or something
grrr hop pv
not too bad
or like 12 seconds
tbats like the least bad fight that you have left
Thing is i sell at the veeeeery end for some strange reason
what is the fastest way to get geo
hoppers
Not even the start of phase 3 just straight up like 2 staggers away left
if you can show me a 04r pv that lasts 12 seconds I'll be impressed
depends
Relics if you are early game hoppers mid game colossuem late game
hoppers?
I did not know it was 04r
hoppers
surely teano
truee
want it 10/10 fast and 7/10 hard or 8.5/10 fast and 3/10 hard?
we need to get the pv players onto this
@wind garnet mentioned
@yato hop back on hk for 12 second r04 pv
It's hilarious to me how i did all of this just cuz someone called radhog all bindings lightwork lmao
My ego is very fragile
just use debug mode
did you really lmfao
well it was part of the reason why 😭
I mean it's not that hard tbh
dont know how this is meant to help here but 👍
yea that's why i started R04 fr
its not
I don't have access to my PC or my laptop right now but I'm sure I could do it
E
anyone know what to do after city of tears?
2017 ahh
all bindings is either very fun or longer fights
Or markoth
Btw is false knight required? I am doing a steel soul speed run
It was an el jibbity btw
well time to die to thk then go to sleep
If you've ever seen them
not required
no but it's a free %
gn grey
only 1 boss is required
oh gn grey

not yet
the wha
Nope but the money is nice
also false knight for speedrun is recommended
I have to do thk
grrr
P1 section done
I didn't slop through an entire all skills run while chatting this whole time just to not at least attempt thk
thk puts you to sleep anyway might as well be gn
I am bad at thk
all skills is lowkey speedrunslop
R04-14?
Oh right
Near oro's bench there is a corpse that if you keep hitting spawns 2 great hoppers
These 2 die with 2 ddarks and are a great way of farming geo imo
not speedrunning though
hitless running
i mastered it through radiance
sure if that's the acronym for it
it's also hitlessslop imo
oh ew
Wait fuh did i just type
all skills mid
I meant 1-4 as in pantheons

hitless ow dniii
all skills is regarded as one of the more enjoyable overworld hitless runs from everyone I talk to about it
wdym why
yes I just never recorded it I only recorded normal p1-4 04
Because r04 is either veeeeeeeery boring or extermly hard
its such cool gameplay compared to the other ones
it was boring
I played silksong a lot that I forgot if spells get stronger if you upgrade the nail or not
except for like 3 bosses tho
stop playing that slop
sheooo 
Glants versus zombies 
btw yes they do since they proportional to nail dmg
r04 mantis lords also actually seems fun (NOT sisters)
glorp versus zombies
sisters is better
absolutely not
Fun if you like wasting 6 minutes of your time just to win

Yes
In casual runs tho
but mantis lords is good fun
R04 pantheons take like 45 minutes to an hour

Other than that sisters of battle is most likely some of the buggiest shit you will see
depending on how good you are
Only if you can use spells consistently
Also Nail + quick cast + nail is very fun on overworld mantis lords
Idk what it is i get a rush from it
even without spells it is fun IMO but this is coming from my low gear mantis lords experience being purely overworld
never forget
I love bullying mantis lords in bingo
I think I got to do mantis lords 2 or 3 times in bingy day yesterday
shit was peak

I was also the first right side rafters of the day
What is no hit true pacifist even about 😭
I almost died on SoB in P5 chat. I should just forefit
ddark wouldnt have time to activate there
They'd not be able to process it out of pure shock
"WAIT AYO WATCH YO JET"
and that too LOL
I ain’t beating absrad this attempt chat 😭
You got this i believe in you
Look me in the eyes.
ok
Good Luck
Pantheon 5 All Bindings Guide Table of Contents Table of Contents 1 General Information 3 Use as a P5 or R5 guide 3 Non boss information 3 The six bosses of the run 3 Other bosses of note 3 Soul saving & hotsprings 3 Backups and alternate strategies 4 Quick cast 4 Lifeblood 4 Terminology & Jargo...
when in doubt use greyfire's 3 years old absrad guide on the last 7 pages
Thanks dude
np
There's some really useful stuff in there like being able to use ddark on spikes to remove them. Dodging beam wall halfway to not overlap attacks
Absolutely not pogoing in phase 1
Etc
it isn't 3 years old
Well you make it sound like it so
I wrote a lot of it earlier last year
I can check
Beat sheo but took 6 damage which made me lose a lot of confidence. Cranking the music up
I started writing it in march
and then when I wrote the p5ab guide ported the absrad guide over
I hate sly's 2nd phase so much
the p5ab guide I started on november 14th
Playing hollow knight on mobile is like playing dash less wtf
few things quite as spirit crushing as clutching nkg, beating pure vessel almost hitless and then getting vaporized by absrad in 20 seconds
You don't even want to try nail arts

Genuinely bro how are you playing silksong on mobile How do you do ts
you either do your absolute hardest to fluke everything or play with like 4 fingers
Oh yea you can change the button layout
Press menu and inventory at the same time
if it says save at the bottom you can now change your button locations (except quick cast for some fucking reason)
Mantis Lords keep battering me😭
lmao real
Herro
Hi
i don't even wanna keep on doing traitor lord with 5 masks overcharmed
i have 4 notches qslash and MoP
do i just keep pogoing or smt?
desolate or dark cuz i'm using base nail, white spells without howling wraiths
Desolate works
So basically what you do is you use dive after you dash through shockwave just incase of him walking forward
and free 20 damage
Traitor lord will do a different attack if he does the same attack twice in a row
That's all i have to say really
Just beat Hornet 2 in P5. I’m now in the decently hard part
I finally gave the flower to godseeker
@empty lynx breakfast.
Make like Hornet and git gud
I have fking realized that the damn white vines in the white palace is bc of the white lady 
Does anyone wanna DM me?
ok
?
Ye
I hate that woman
Good for you?
Did u beat p5?
What do you mean why?
I haven't had time, and when I did I died to nkg
Why didnt u try it
I just said I did
Nkg isnt hard
It's not a difficulty thing, I beat him before, it's a dodge thing
I’m on Markoth now with 2 lifeblood in P5 chat. Full soul too
And I’m dead thanks NKG I hate you
its like 4 mins bruh
I was kicking NKGs ass and then got combo-d
are you jealous @empty lynx
hive knight-grimm segment is so painfully free it hurts what i have to do after
is first trying hornet on the first ever playthrough good?
p3 is free as a whole unless with some modifiers
I just started 3 days ago so
thats awesome
right now im trying to beat the resting grounds area
I have a queston; I've got pure vessel to the stage when he starts doing big balls and tentacles
was I near half of the fight?
Focus( the big ball ) happens at 66%, void tendrils at 33% HP remaining
so I was in 2 thirds? hmm, good
also nice that void tendrils seem like easy hits
and big balls is prayer and rng...
Oh you’re the real Yato 
may I have a question; when pv does his basic slash attack, is it better to attemp a dodge dash through him, jump over him or attempt some parries?
dw there's nothing there
oh ok
clearly umm there's no boss in this area
where where would one hide anyway
it's like (I'm gonna get this wrong) but like 40% of the way through you get orbs 70% you get tendrils and then u just beat the boss but also pv so quick
what abt the guy you dreamnail
It more feels like u get tendrils then he does two attacks and dies
Jump
Hi yis
Hi
jump it is... should I jump preemtively or only once I am sure that he's not doing lance throw?
If the former is better, how do I then evade lance throw while in the air near him?
I always jump for the little dagger throw thing and then I shade dash through
If u just learn to always shade dash it you're comfy every time in air or on ground
surely no if it's a third of his hp
maybe he unlocks them but by rng doesn't do them until near-death
Wtf is going on in this video
https://youtube.com/shorts/a7d8j9C77jk?si=fZl8FpwEOwjjfX-W
a third of his hp is like nothing pv lets you hit him sm
but lance throw may be comfortably dashed through when near ground
but on the level of his head, the lances go in a very dense manner
Well yeah but like if you're dashing through them on the ground you're doing it when they get to like the midway point right?
I'm talking about that in mid air
Not when they're like shotgunning in front of his face
Hollow knight is so cool I wish bugs were real
me too
lance throw I call when he throws them
lances from the ground are easy
Yeah that's what I was talking about
so you want to dash past the last lance, the one that goes straight up?
what the hell do you mean I'm so confused
ima stream hk in my server if anyones interested
Brain lagged heavy
that dodging lance throw in midair is harder than when grounded
as they go in a very dense manner and dashing through one may get you into the next
smh self promo
That does not happen fr they all shoot at the same time
no the lower ones go first
in lance throw
in lance spikes they are all at the same time
It is not a real genuine amount of time that changes the timing of the shade dash
You're overthinking it
ok let me see
you dash past the very last lance, to end up behind him?
God no not at all fr
Can u even like make that distance?
When he teleports to do daggers?
I think he may do daggers without a tp, no?
It doesn't matter really
Both timings for daggers are super easy
But jumping works to prevent tendrils also
And in general jumping is good
Yay
the jump button really is a hard counter to pv
i have known the entire time I've played hk that I should do pv jumping but it looks so much less fun
Link what?
It just like seems lame
new top 3 collector player
like the text explentaion of the issue
I just fought pv sm times and I really feel like I shade dash at the exact same time for jumping daggers and for ground daggers
Is the timing supposed to be different?
That description is depressing
Just say it
Its easier to forward
Idek
Well just forward
Makes me want to just quit
Gg
Maybe it's because you haven't been bitten by MeteorCow
yeah it’s unfortunate but you did decide to do this as your first collector challenge which will add hours
You should just put more hours into collector
I believe in you yis
Wait are you doing phase 5?! And have been for 550 hours?!
@tranquil mountain did you bite this person
No not even
I’m doing something much easier for 550 hours
What happened
Play on beta
U got hit
By an invisible orb
he started very late, when most of the strats had already been discovered
500 what????
Dunno what u mean I saw it
Maybe you're just not attuned with absrad mentally roma
I saw that orb through my minds eye
The game punished you for not using Steady body
Yeah crazy low
Lowkey i also kinda see the orb
It just happens
My most played game has that amount of hours
I’m no where near good enough to do that and I have almost 600 hours on collector
guys can u like help me with new chllange to hollow knight
I'm happy I'm not deep enough in the rabbit hole
Idk
i have all pantheons all bindings and idk what to do
Do a multi game boss rush
Do it hitless
i made the path of flower challange
It's very fun
Do you jump for daggers? If not it could be pretty similar
Bro after the update I can't even do downdash on ps5 anymore for path of pain
Hurts my soul
yeah sure why not i'll add it to my list
thanks great idea
I'm doing Undertale Cuphead Silksong Deltarune hollow knight and Minecraft
I just flip flop back and forth but it feels like the same timing
Atleast for jumping pillars, teleporting maybe not although its still decently similar
I dont think i follow exactly, wdym with flip flopping back and forth lol
Btw does nkg appear in godhome if you didn't fight him?
Between jumping and not jumping for the daggers I do both and the shade dash timing doesn't seem to be different fr
Like dash to him dash back? For reference i mean dagger throw
He appears on p5
Oh i see
No?
Wait if you banish does he appear?
yes
Yes 😭
in the hall of gods
what are you going for? -14r?
Oh now i understand what you mean
Oh cool
Wait so I have to meet nkg on p5 to fight him in HOG?
No
I was reading your message wrong, yeah the timing is the same
If you banish, no
he always appears in p5 no matter what you do (even if you haven't banished or fought him yet)
If you banished NKG first, yes
Just 04r phase 2 only
the convo was someone talking about their like struggles to dodge it and what to do and stuff and they were like well ik if I shade dash through it when jumping I'm gonna get hit cuz those daggers go later
And I was describing how they felt the exact same timing for the shade dash to me
Guibr what are you saying
He doesn't appear if you don't defeat him and also not banish
Speaking from experience
No wrong
I'm getting confused now
I really wanted to get the melody charm so I banished the troupe but still wanted to fight nkg
For real?
Mhm
So I don't have to meet him in p5?
No, I think
Nah ur good
U can practice him in HoG before doing p5
My first biggest play-through banished nkg and I'm dead certain about it
Aaah i see, yeah the timing doesnt change depending on jumping or not, pv still throws at the same time, if youre on the ground you should technically dash earlier/later depending on positioning so that you end up slightly further forward because the daggers are stacked on the ground and you could theoretically dash through one and end up in the one behind it but its so specific positioning that it doesnt realistically matter
I HATE the new down dash bro
ik everyone says the old one is harder and worse but I found it sm easier
This shit ass
What's new with it
Cheese
On playstation it's new for like pc players they've had the "fixed" versio for a while
You didn't answer my question
It was harder to use dash regularly
It is now harder to specifically down dash
Tbh I rarely used the down dash
it's not p3
p5 hitless with fury
But downdashing unintentionally in general is a bigger issue than not downdashing accidentally
Wait do you have to aim it better now?
You just have to get used to
Imo it's not
I do still recommend jumping over dashing simply because it eliminates that slight chance, but unless youre aiming for extreme rad consistency it realistically doesnt matter ( and even if you are you can play around that problem as long as you know it exists )
But maybe it's because I don't play on keyboard
In 1.4 and below just the mere press of down will make a dash go down
In 1.5 you have to not be pressing horizontal as well otherwise it will be normal
Just realized I don't even have to fight the radiance to get steel heart
The issue is when platforming you need to press down which made Dashmaster a horrible deficit throughout the game
It's like imagine you dash towards a wall
Your thumb is on the joystick and you've made like a half circle
The way it would've worked before is like each quarter of the stick like a pie chart would let you dash in that direction
Now the way it works is if you like just now hovered over the left side (because it's a joystick you have to you're literally moving the whole time) and THEN you tilt down
It will dash you left
In fights it's not a big issue but ofc that was never the main thing of the charm
I feel like this isn't even fully accurate of the issue
That's literally just how it works
I can imagine it makes stick a bit more difficult yeah
So this works
Before; you need DOWN
Now: you need DOWN and not LEFT or RIGHT
And this doesn't?
That's 100% wrong for controller I promise you I aint gotta be clicking left at all if I just clicked left
It like stores it now
For like half a second
Which is too long
Use dpad and try it
Not sure how it handles stick tbf
That's definitely not intended
But yeah on dpad it just makes it way better
:((
Dpad sucks ngl
Well maybe it's because the Xbox dpad is ass
Alright I will hold on lemme try to learndpad pop
No just normal in whatever room
Try downdashing while still
And then downdashing while moving
Yo it's kinda peak
Dpad is just peak in general ngl
Feels so much better when you need to do precise stuff imo
This one specifically sucks
Dualsense/shocks are just better
Idk I hate both equally
I, an R5 player, died trying to get fury with a controller 
I just do not wanna relearn hk on dpad
2 times
Nah the xbox dpad is goated, i played all of my dpad time in hk with an xbox one controller
I have a brilliant idea
I'll do r04 nkg, and then switch to a controller and see how many attempts it takes to beat attuned with no restrictions
I wonder if jere was a dpader
Let's agree it's the worst dpad
Lolol
Oh right i forgot jere got banished to the shadow realm lmao
Smh my head poor jere cracker
I died in like the p2 section when i tried playing on console a couple years ago 
I dont know how people do it that input delay is actually crazy work
@quartz cave siiiiigh
U can plug the controller in
@digital grove @digital grove @digital grove @digital grove @digital grove @digital grove
@quartz cave @quartz cave @quartz cave @quartz cave @quartz cave
It was
hiiiiiiiiiiiiii hru
They're going to kill me oswald
Oh dang get a better cord fr
who are they
Console input delay from a low refresh rate tv and vsync is still just absolutely crazy
I think I am too blinded by being a console player I cannot see these invisible magical barriers that bound me
that sucks i hope u get well soon
Especially coming from 800 fps on a 165 hz monitor lol
tjhank u
I'm like those fleas that think they can't jump higher
i should hop rain world instead
actually idk im running hunter campaign thats about as fun as the sludge in f5
leg of legend
Yeah you dont notice it if you havent used both, my first like 100 hours were also on console without any problems
yato hop league
Ew
my """"""FRIEND""""""" was meant to hop bloons but they were watching the OLYMPICS
and then went to watch frieren
sighhh
oswald hop bloons
What's the hardest thing have y'all done in Hollow Knight?
sorry i have a kind and loving family
wtf
actually idk bloons
survive
is it like a bald game
tower defense game
hmm
ITS FUN
As you should be, see the light oswald, uninstall it
yeah that sounds bald
theres monkeys and balloons and its awesome
im 11k hours too deep
me when im lying

this is truthfully a HATES ME moment
climb to grandmaster
but then again thats not impressive cause ppl still call me boblow
☹️
uhhh sure
Ripv twice in a row probably, or my unrecorded rad pv streak
LITERALLY ME
my youngest brother just told me that he killed Marissa in his playthrough :c
What's ripv
how does ripv even work is it just parry simulator
King
radiant itemless pv
no its waiting simulator
Its neither smh
Oh thanks for reminding me to dream nail her
what do u wait for,,
Free 1 essence that can be used for dreamgate
Everything
im still waiting for 27th february,
The fight up until tendrils is just normal dashless and then you gotta position yourself relative to PV correctly so that you can jump towards PV and pogo or jump just out of range
You could also full jump them but its like a 5 frame window or something cooked like that
thats kinda impressive gj yato
Thank you thank you lol
im missing a boss between xero and galien in godhome, any idea who it is? i assume a dream boss
whats ur rpv streak tho
55
gng
The highest recorded is Pantheon of pv so 42 attuned hitless
unlocking my photographic memory to remember the boss
It's gotta be either markoth no eyes gorb or that other one
Marmu
!!!!
Oh or elder hu ig
its markoth
Forgot he existed for 2s
Hello
I think it's common knowledge for most that it's means it is
Still stuck on that damn boss rush
I wonder if thats still the unnofficial wr or if teano got bored
Fuckk
its markoth has some sort of uncertainity to it
Surely its not its been 3 years
I'm so glad I've achieved nothing awesome in hk so I don't have to view teano as a boulder falling onto my head
?flip
@quartz cave heads
Ngl same for most of the game
all the godhome players gotta be so defeated that man is not human
You know back in the remto days i could atleast cope and say i was somewhat equal with him in PV, with teano its just unreachable
i remember in like 2021 when everyone used to boast about radhog and now ppl say r5 is like an achievement for casuals
The challenge inflation is fucking rough yeah
I think I'm pretty bad at the game cuz I haven't done r5 fr
I am indeed
Oswald thank you I don't often laugh out loud to hk chat but I did that time
The handless caught me off guard
no problem <3
BUT WHY IS IT -13
it was single digit minus degrees yesterday 
weather hates me, and now its gonna snow again,
Consider simply having warmer weather
warmer weather sucks ngl summers are UNBEARABLE
like how do u even survive +20
Summer is so awesome im getting so pissed off that its still cold where i live
autum or winter better
me after one league game
late spring
How to beat up grimm
late spring when its like 15 degrees and a slight breeze 🤤
sly phase 2 pmo
also has to be partially cloudy cause any sun pmo
practice makes perfect lowk
Ok
how cold are we talking
current ranking of fury bosses
heal during his floor spike attack
Great slash
none of them have fur tho
oh right i forgot i myself have nail arts
You do indeed
It is currently 1C
wd and dd too
also oro mato and sheo
hes in hell
synthetic fur doesnt count
hater
it has to be real authentic fur
do you consider mossy to be furry but in like a leafy way
wtf i never noticed that gorb has curly hair
So like 530 real temperature
I think mossy deserves to count
im never beating sly radiant
no i feel like thats a diff type of furry
lowk just use nars and stay in the middle for phase 2
That's not fur
That's
Moss
U ever felt moss?
Could be
Yeah
Feels fuzzy
this is why i said furry but in a leafy way
Hive knight does
Very accurate description of moss imo
Dont grubomg me i am freezing my ass off every time i gotta go outside to smoke or smth, it does get up to like 8-11 when the sun is out but i just dont want it to be so grey and shit anymore 
Feels wejrd
I like rubbin moss with my hands personally
Feels yum
I think it feels super peak
im washed but u get the point,
Fun fact about moss
use narts instead of normal slashes
can someone show me the hunter fight scene a-
Its a sponge
wait right
its from 2 yrs ago
Booo redo with great slash
wtf sighhh
,
!!!!!!!
wow i have more celeste videos than hk videos in this server
Guess what yt recomended me

