hk-discussion

[dense cairn]

Death games

[brave kite]

what if everyone is peaceful and no one dies

[digital grove]

beware the scariest attack in all of hollow knight though (traitor lord walk storage)

[queen stag]

to bad everyone dies

[dense cairn]

The game kill you

[digital grove]

you may be entitled to financial compensation if you or a loved one has been affected by tl walk storage

[brave kite]

but that's evil

[queen stag]

Warrior God vs normal dude 😭 😭

[royal helm]

NOOOO

Do you have my goat in it?

[brave kite]

remember every god's weakness in hk is amnesia

[digital grove]

yep its free AND consistent (win win)

[queen stag]

they died

[digital grove]

8 hits on each oblobble then one more hit to get surviving one into phase 2

[proven nymph]

two people from each “city” gets selected for death matches. i think about 20 people? aged 13-18 i think?
they fight and only one person can win, so if their partner is still alive at the end they have to kill their teammate

[digital grove]

then 4 easy hits to kill the last one

[royal helm]

Based death tbf

[digital grove]

(with fury)

[dense cairn]

If hollow knight is an insects game, does it mean ab Radiance is a chicken size?

[digital grove]

this is amazing

[torn geyser]

This is plats

[royal helm]

Yeah I keep getting there

[brave kite]

how i look at the screen after losing to ascended radiance after the billionth time when i remember that i'm gonna do radiant radiance right after

[proven nymph]

what is that?

[torn geyser]

which happens to not end in one hit

[proven nymph]

i don’t think it is confirmed how tall the bugs of hallownest are? so they can be chickensized or human sized. your choice.

[empty lynx]

Iam so glad i beat gpz

Now my HoG looks very beautiful

Not the best. Just so pretty

[digital grove]

after shockwave attack he has a chance to walk forwards to reposition

[woeful spire]

Hey guys

[proven nymph]

oh cool

i did not like fighting traitor lord

[digital grove]

tl walk is another reason why fighting him sucks

[torn geyser]

Tiny grimm is such a humorous thought and I don't know why

[digital grove]

once i have fury aschog i should send the screenshot here and ask if people like my radhog

[woeful spire]

I was thinking of charm combos. Any good ones? Specifically with Grubberfly Ellegy? Or Bluetooth as I call it

[brave kite]

who is tl?

[wary hound]

platforms phase

[proven nymph]

traitor lord i think

[royal helm]

Plats phase with 6 masks no soul, I think I got this

[wary hound]

light work trust

[torn geyser]

lifeblood charms protects grubber's from turning off iirc

might be misremembering though

[dense cairn]

How to one shot radiance by kicking a chicken

[empty lynx]

Lmfao
Why does AscHog look good with radiants tho

[digital grove]

its really pretty

i cant decide whether or not i want to do fully ascended hall of gods or like a fucked up pattern with some radiants thrown in

[wary hound]

radiant hod 3 times

[brave kite]

soul eater+soul catcher+spell twistter is good trust

[royal helm]

Climb phase for the first time!!!

[woeful spire]

Thanks. All I do is find grubs btw, I only just defeated 1 dreamer and the Broken vessel today.

[queen stag]

#hk-general thats insane

[ivory storm]

When I me

[digital grove]

putting achievements like "aschog" in my bio so everyone knows not to mess with an alpha player like me

[wary hound]

mmm
tuff
ur SO MUCH BETTER THAN me

[earnest apex]

Much better

[torn geyser]

do note the charm that makes all masks lifeblood is anti synergy, as any damage taken disables grubber's until benching

[wary hound]

cause im so bad

[digital grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

[empty lynx]

AHH TRAITOR LORD WALK STORAGE

[woeful spire]

Oh

[digital grove]

whatd i TELL YOU

every time shockwave happens i run away like a coward

[empty lynx]

actually wait

[digital grove]

grrr

[empty lynx]

Ddive genuienly failed me

[woeful spire]

Hey guys, you know the infection glob stuff? Is that the same as volatile thats on some enemies?

[empty lynx]

!wiki Traitor_Lord

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Traitor_Lord

[royal helm]

LMAO THE LAST OHASE WAS INE HIT

I was so scared

[digital grove]

why dive on shockwave

[ivory storm]

he always walks after a shockwave

[wary hound]

iframes

[digital grove]

i mean i get the vision but Why

[digital grove]

yeah but not easy to time it so you avoid walk storage

[empty lynx]

After shockwave i dive in the case he does move which is nearly all the time.

Until he decides to jump up.

[torn geyser]

LIfeblood heart/core are the ones that synergize

[empty lynx]

He KEEPS walk storage when jumping.

FHPBSOBVORHGGJKVOVOBBOW

[woeful spire]

Ok

[empty lynx]

FUCK THIS GUY

[digital grove]

maybe i need to run r0w0 so that i can experience shenanigans like this

[ivory storm]

bro you can spam him either ashrieks or ddark and he'll do nothing about it

[brave kite]

just pogo and descend darkness on him till death

[ivory storm]

PTJBIIMA

[digital grove]

ive never gone into a low gear godhome

[empty lynx]

iam low gear

[royal helm]

Dream no more ending completed, 2 to go I think?

[empty lynx]

The fun is killed as soon as you go lower than hell RaB

[digital grove]

if i stop being AFRAID and i also actually finish f5 maaaaybe i'll do something with low gear

0nws not radiant

[brave kite]

then attack him only when his on his endlag

[empty lynx]

0nws was decent fun

[digital grove]

WITH charms because i dont hate myself enoughg

[empty lynx]

How many is the real question,,,

[ivory storm]

dude what are you doing haha

what's the new challenge

[wary hound]

rad vfk > radabsrad

[brave kite]

who's vfk

[wary hound]

vengefly king

[torn geyser]

some things to note:

grubsong gives more soul when used with grubber's
fury activates grubber's at one heart and enhances it
mark makes projectiles bigger
strength increases nail damage and therefore grubber damage
quick slash heavily helps with dps

[brave kite]

damn

[woeful spire]

Hm

Ok

I think I should get other charms before I ask for combos

[wary hound]

eys

[royal helm]

Last phase of rad was really hard

[plush vector]

Is hollow knight on 4K now

[wary hound]

which phase is last

[royal helm]

Climb

[wary hound]

ok

[royal helm]

Should I do p2 or nkg? I’m going to get my ass kicked either way

[plush vector]

Nkg

He’s pretty easy

[royal helm]

No 🥀

[wary hound]

lmao no he isnt

[plush vector]

Yes

[royal helm]

I’ve fought him probably 50 times atp

[empty lynx]

Same one
These charms are just here literally to clear ascended fights

[digital grove]

im never gonna get over grimmchild in this loadout this is hilarious

[plush vector]

Yeah and he’s easy

[digital grove]

its so stupid that grimmchild is doing better damage than your nail

[royal helm]

Best I’ve got was 3 octopus attacks and I haven’t gotten that far since

[empty lynx]

Anyway yea this was just a reskinned nailmaster oro

[empty lynx]

Genuienly optimal 😭

[digital grove]

i never thought of it like that

[plush vector]

How do you play it in your phone dawg

[wary hound]

LMAO
bro he is not

[empty lynx]

Iam fr using grimmchild for vollector watch me

[digital grove]

[plush vector]

He is

[royal helm]

Fishy has to be rage baiting

[plush vector]

You’ve not spend enough time to see how he dances

[royal helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271710252407980104/1367479250982142083/GMP_RGlzY29yZEdIMDE.gif

[digital grove]

incoming nkg is like a dance copypasta

[royal helm]

Because 3 hours isn’t enough

[wary hound]

i have like 15 hours on him i can guarantee i can do him radiant in 5 tries or less

[plush vector]

Put more then

[empty lynx]

It's kinda the same thing of "triple hit this dash use wraiths when he jumps dodge his special move" for like 2 minutes

[brave kite]

no

[empty lynx]

I stopped using wraiths after he started using shockwaves tho

[wary hound]

just because u can do a boss after lots of practice doesnt make that said boss easy

[royal helm]

It’s unnecessarily long

[brave kite]

unless if you're already familiar with metroidvanias or if you fought him 1 gazillion times

[royal helm]

He has way too much hp

[plush vector]

What

Radiance has more hp

[wary hound]

ok SO
radiance u get so much more hits off

[digital grove]

surely Words cannot describe my love for Nightmare King Grimm.

[royal helm]

Radiance has variety 😭

[wary hound]

i think

[kindred pilot]

I killed the moth

[royal helm]

Also radiance has crazy windows compared to nkg

[kindred pilot]

Yet again

[empty lynx]

NKG is good fun

P2 is boring and bland with only like 2 good fights there

[plush vector]

Yeah but nkg is just feels good

[brave kite]

nkg has crazy windows for heavy blows and abyss shriek

[royal helm]

I have all his attacks known and it’s just boring atp

[digital grove]

yeah nkg is the funner option imo but you also get to fight mantis lords broken vessel and sheo

[ivory storm]

what's the challenge, I dunno it

[digital grove]

why the fuck are we using heavy blow on nkg

[royal helm]

Not anywhere near radiance

[digital grove]

💀

[plush vector]

Real

[empty lynx]

I love my aurafarming nightmare troupe master bat moth thingy

[plush vector]

Same

[wary hound]

great slash i think u meant?

[royal helm]

Me when I’m not the best player in the world (fishy thinks everything is easy)

[digital grove]

All video game boss designers are just melting down at the thought of how not a single bossfight they have designed, will ever compare to the sheer awesomeness of Nightmare King Grimm.

[ivory storm]

L fishy

[empty lynx]

Would you rather fight him or flukemarm then nosk then broken vessel.

[plush vector]

Have you tried getting a gf and touching grass

[royal helm]

Have you?

[empty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-7240636

[plush vector]

Yep

[brave kite]

1v1 ragebait war in hk discussion detected

[wary hound]

not 1v1
this is like 1v5

[digital grove]

get broken vessel out of the slander lineup

[woeful spire]

Hey, how hard is the invincible fearless sensual mysterious enchanting vigorous diligent overwhelming gorgeous passionate terrifying beautiful powerful grey prince Zote for you guys?

[royal helm]

Me vs fishy (I’m right he’s wrong)

[empty lynx]

ok sorry

[ivory storm]

I love you

[plush vector]

Bruh

[obtuse brook]

I've never felt this way before.
I've never played any Tomodachi Life game. But suddenly I want to buy the new Tomodachi Life game that's coming out.
I'm so TEMPTED to buy it

[digital grove]

easy unless hitless (im bad at it hitless but getting better )

[nocturne knot]

should be easy, but its been a while

[woeful spire]

He seems a little bit... unpredictable

[brave kite]

he becomes easy tho as long as you memorize how to counter him

[empty lynx]

Broken vessel hitless is
Weird

[digital grove]

is it

[plush vector]

He’s easier than nkg

[royal helm]

T least with p2 there’s more than five moves for the torture

[digital grove]

im gonna do it rq

[nocturne knot]

a life of training and then your little sibling beats you up by using you as a trampoline

[digital grove]

it might be weird for me because im more used to lost kin

[ivory storm]

so you feel like Bretta?

[empty lynx]

Like it's not hard but like
The slow attacks can throw you off

[royal helm]

I know all his attacks, I just have to keep it up with barely any mistakes for so long which is why I don’t like it

[wary hound]

WHY POGO SO MUCH

[obtuse brook]

Uhhhhh...

[wary hound]

oh no ground?>

[wary hound]

nvm

[digital grove]

ok maybe i should take off fury LOL

[empty lynx]

I think it's actually called rowos or smthing
Charmless old nail white spell hall of gods

[ivory storm]

W HUGE

[plush vector]

He’s mt goat

[ivory storm]

the dash on 0:24 was INSANE

[nocturne knot]

im trying to do groundless but seems too hard at the moment

[woeful spire]

Broken or Lost? I fought both and only won the first

[wary hound]

radiant
?

[brave kite]

that's almost every endgame boss tho

[nocturne knot]

oh yeah

[royal helm]

Ughhhhhh that’s stupid

[digital grove]

still free

[ivory storm]

since when pogo till death Pure Vessel is a strat wtf

[digital grove]

broken

[nocturne knot]

bruh i didnt even thought of doing it on lesser difficulties, i guess that would help a lot i could try that

[empty lynx]

You can do floorless wallless hitless i believe in you

[wary hound]

wats ur build ima give this oone attempt

[brave kite]

that's just things being difficult and not a pushover

[royal helm]

I don’t think length should equal difficulty

[nocturne knot]

its a very very bad one, you get hit by their upstanding from stagger and the random unreactable reposition jumps

[woeful spire]

K

[royal helm]

I think nkgs health could be halved and still be an amazing fight

[empty lynx]

true and false at the same time tbh

[ivory storm]

YES LOL LIKE

[brave kite]

then it would become a pushover

[empty lynx]

I do like Fights like pure vessel alot even after learning it due to the fact it's fast to kill

But like nkg is still only 2 minutes so i don't even bother

[brave kite]

pure vessel is my fav boss in the game

[nocturne knot]

i was using this i think (both long range nails are a must)

[royal helm]

Not really? His attacks never change so it’s just keeping a rhythm for annoyingly long, it just gets tedious after the 3rd minute if the same rhythm with no variety

[ivory storm]

I've never seen a bigger troll in this community

[wary hound]

is quicj slash really that useful?

[royal helm]

Yes

[wary hound]

IN THIS CASE

[royal helm]

Oh

[brave kite]

it's not annoyingly long tho it's less than 5 minutes

[digital grove]

grr

oops weong file

[ivory storm]

that's the most meme Hollow Knight gameplay thing ever

[nocturne knot]

its pretty cool sometimes, like that one celeste room, ifyyk

[wary hound]

i feel like taking
off qs
For soul eater would be better ( shriek stalls )

[empty lynx]

I mean if you can keep it up without mistakes it shouldn't be that bad still

[wary hound]

aight im giving it a single attempt or maybe a few

[brave kite]

bro LOVES staying mid air

[nocturne knot]

oh for groundless that could be pretty good

[empty lynx]

I hate how much shorter the combo stagger is here

[royal helm]

I can dodge 95% well, I occasionally take a hit but because of how damn long it is that leads to death

[digital grove]

this hitbox is so ass

[royal helm]

Bro I love nkg floor spike hitbox, it feels nonexistent

[wary hound]

then again qs can still be useful ITS WEIRD

[digital grove]

genuinely why is it that in like every clip i record theres ALWAYS a stupid hitbox moment

[ivory storm]

full cyclone + 1 is goated

[brave kite]

also you can heal when he does the fire pillars

[empty lynx]

good enough
I'd still go NKG over P2 tho. Atleast the fight isn't just marmu

[royal helm]

Marmu can not be this bad

[empty lynx]

She isn't

[royal helm]

I mostly struggle with oblobbles

[empty lynx]

But she fucking sucks

[royal helm]

Ah fair

[empty lynx]

And i fucking hate her

[vestal cedar]

oblobbles is worse

[wary hound]

am gona try with this build

[empty lynx]

I hope her queen doesn't return to teach her how to fly

[foggy sable]

marmu is so annoying

[vestal cedar]

even with marmu's asc arena

[brave kite]

me and my gang are hating on marmu every day

[royal helm]

I fucking hate iblobbles

[digital grove]

lmaooo

[empty lynx]

infact i hope she watches me kill that mf infront of her

[brave kite]

i hope that citzen in greenpath eats marmu

[digital grove]

common white defender moment

[royal helm]

Omg I need to fight white defender

[empty lynx]

A friend of mine was actually dodging white defender like this
ON THEIR FIRST PLAYTHROUGH

[digital grove]

doesnt help the skin im using is literally just cotton fireb0rn video moment

[empty lynx]

Goated reference

[vestal cedar]

do you just have to react to wd's slam

[empty lynx]

Idfk

[vestal cedar]

i mean it isnt bad with shade cloak

[digital grove]

this was not done purposefully so idk what i did

[brave kite]

who's wd

[royal helm]

I should be able to dig a stag station to the god seeker am I right

[empty lynx]

White defender

[royal helm]

Wd gaster?

[empty lynx]

Just dreamgate bro

[vestal cedar]

white defender

[royal helm]

Yo wait that’s a fire idea

[nocturne knot]

in greenpath?

[royal helm]

😭

[digital grove]

im wing defender! the white knight!
rory nyte: hey

[empty lynx]

You are welcome bro

[brave kite]

you can simply walk away or wait a lil to see if he's gonna slam

[vestal cedar]

theres a shortcut from nailsmith to godseeker

[empty lynx]

Actually ONE more boss before bed

[digital grove]

grrr which one

[brave kite]

the guy that eats mushrooms and has a urge to eat you

[digital grove]

alright so oblobbles down again

gonna practice sisters one more time and then ill have 2nd segment consistent again

[royal helm]

Yeah I found that it’s just still kinda far from a. Stag station

[digital grove]

[brave kite]

actually i forgot if it's a guy or a woman

[royal helm]

Wait what pantheon are sisters

[empty lynx]

...

yea iam going to bed bro

[nocturne knot]

bruh, i just first tried zote after ages, awesome

[brave kite]

20 km run

[vestal cedar]

you can dreamnail him at the start of the fight

did you know that

[brave kite]

hitless too

[digital grove]

they DESYNCED aint no way

3 hit sisters

grr

[empty lynx]

Gong why are you WASHED

[brave kite]

i may be washed but i'll beat p5 with bindings anyway

[digital grove]

IM WASHED AND CHUD SOMEONE TAKE AWAY MY GODHOME LICENSE

[royal helm]

What pantheon is sisters in?

[brave kite]

5

[empty lynx]

5

[woeful spire]

AYO WTF

[royal helm]

Alr

What about standard mantis lords?

[woeful spire]

Wait, is cursing allowed

[empty lynx]

you can still redeem yourself
Get sub 5 hits f5

[royal helm]

I hope so

[nocturne knot]

thats queen station at the queen gardens / fungal wastes / fog canyon hence why i was asking, but i can see the confusion

[shrewd nymph]

Just no slurs lol

[brave kite]

floor 5?

[empty lynx]

Bitch you can say whatever the fuck you want however the fuck you want so long as it's not insulting or harassing

[royal helm]

Just don’t overdo it or make it offensive

[brave kite]

it's green and it has a path so it's green path

[royal helm]

Chat what pantheon is mantis lords

[digital grove]

entirely doable now that oblobbles isnt an issue anymore

[nocturne knot]

idk why i idled so much at the start

[nocturne knot]

3 iirinc, 2 actually

[zinc iris]

2

[brave kite]

i'm so scared

[zinc iris]

Pretty sure it's 2

[wary hound]

its 2

[empty lynx]

it is 2

[royal helm]

Grrrr

How fucking dare you say that

[empty lynx]

Good fucking luck

This whole chat was hired by vivzepop

[royal helm]

Ima practice oblobbles before I do another p2 run

[trim schooner]

its 2

[empty lynx]

Do you use shade soul for them tho

[foggy sable]

surely you can

[brave kite]

stop

that's evil

[digital grove]

1 more sisters run (free) or sub 5 f5 run (also free)

[trim schooner]

what lmao

[empty lynx]

@foggy sable what if you
Cheese R04 flukemarm

[royal helm]

Uhhhhh I’ve barely fought them

I don’t rember

[brave kite]

if i were to do a f5 run i'd get hit 5 times by vengefly and proceed to hitless the entire run till i die to marmu

[foggy sable]

can't be bothered tbh

[royal helm]

I’ve been doing nkg and rad for so long I forgot most of p2

Rate the p2 build

[brave kite]

there does not exist/10

[empty lynx]

Fair lmao

[foggy sable]

my 04r days are done

[nocturne knot]

fellas i started p3 and im not recieving any damage, have any of you saw if i got not hitted where i should have been hitted on any of the vids i sent?

[foggy sable]

for the most part

[empty lynx]

OnO is still considerable tho right :3?

[nocturne knot]

invencibility from debug is disabled why i cant feel pain?

[foggy sable]

ono is significantly harder but I am not doing the entire hall

[digital grove]

public nuisance time

[empty lynx]

Fair

[brave kite]

at first i thought that the intro for p5 would be annoying af till i remembered that each run takes 1 hour

[wary hound]

lmao

[nocturne knot]

its gonna be annoying to those who try to r5 for the first time

[royal helm]

I finally beat by spamming qs, I did not realize how insane qs is

[brave kite]

i swear to god when i start mt steel heart run i am not dying a single time

[empty lynx]

You will die trying to use fury

[brave kite]

no bro i hate fury

[digital grove]

first scary bit over with

[brave kite]

"but it gives you DPS" yeah idk give me my 600% healing factor

[digital grove]

no hits so far

[nocturne knot]

bruh and it seems i have already done p3ab in the very distant past so i can go do p4ab instead

[digital grove]

[empty lynx]

@digital grove iam still planning on doing steel soul fury fool trial

Any tips

[idle belfry]

@sick heath tails

[sick heath]

B.S.

[keen thorn]

GREY

Guess what!

I did something cool rn with the R5 list

[unique badge]

more fury r5?

you should do some p1 runs grrrrrr

[keen thorn]

Nix you're gonna like this too

[unique badge]

I'm not Nox

[keen thorn]

Nix sorry

[unique badge]

:3

[keen thorn]

:3

Wait excel broke

[foggy sable]

oooh what?

[keen thorn]

I need to fix something

[foggy sable]

(not that I look at the lists anyway but)

[wild sierra]

Ik u <3 !!!!

[zinc iris]

What's the R5 list ?

[shrewd nymph]

List of r5 clears

[wary hound]

mm yeh

[shrewd nymph]

As well as r5ab and p045

[zinc iris]

People keep track of that?

How do u validate the run

[shrewd nymph]

it was a big deal when it was first done

[zinc iris]

If they don't post on utube

[unique badge]

you watch it.

[shrewd nymph]

Doesn't get validated

[keen thorn]

LUNE HERB

[shrewd nymph]

yo

[keen thorn]

Wait it's almost fixed

[unique badge]

if they don't have a video it's not verified

[zinc iris]

Hi

[wild sierra]

^^^^^^

[digital grove]

max gear (masks for your thing is irrelevant i think you dont upgrade masks anyways) with all soul vessels and pure nail
nmg and shaman makes everything alotttt easier so just like build up qslash, strength, nmg, shaman, and fury and youd be good
other than that the only thing fury really affects are the mini boss segments like soul warrior and god tamer ending because almost everything else dies in 1 hit regardless
also practice in a normal file beforehand pleaseee

[shrewd nymph]

r5 was a huge deal when it was first done and whatnot so thats why theres a list

[keen thorn]

So :3

I went through the R5 list and painstakingly translated the charm builds of all runs

Even tho I don't know Chinese

[unique badge]

bro what did I say

[keen thorn]

Took like 3 hours but

[zinc iris]

Damn what if ur a prodigy and do R5 without interaction w the main community

[digital grove]

how could you swear like that

[foggy sable]

you record it anyway

[keen thorn]

It's done and I have statistics

[shrewd nymph]

Then you would do it again if it bothered you

[digital grove]

so just like practice fool in general beforehand cause if you're good enough at it in the first place then fury addition to your loadout just makes everything more trivial

[keen thorn]

Guess what's the mod used charm?

[empty lynx]

i was gonna say what if I don't use strength but like battle obblobles will take 2 hits

[zinc iris]

[shrewd nymph]

Omg do show

[unique badge]

very suspicious but if it's recorded properly it's usually fine

[foggy sable]

I did r5 no interaction and still recorded

[wild sierra]

Ik u !!!! :D

[shrewd nymph]

Its not a tie??

[unique badge]

strength?

[digital grove]

oh if you dont use strength build up with spell twister instead

[keen thorn]

Nope

[foggy sable]

because it was a run that took a while to do

[digital grove]

[empty lynx]

Alr bet

[keen thorn]

Almost actually, off by 1

[unique badge]

nah there are like 4 different main r5 builds iirc

[shrewd nymph]

Cant be sbody bc nmg

[empty lynx]

more personalised build

[shrewd nymph]

surely its just qslash

[zinc iris]

What is done

[digital grove]

grrr p1 so boring thoughhh and arenas (mawlek) are badddd

[shrewd nymph]

No sk here

[wild sierra]

What’s the best build for r5ab

[keen thorn]

Before individual stats
I checked and 52% of runs are Strength Shaman QS SB MoP

Anyways tho

The grand reveal

[digital grove]

speaking of mawlek
1st hit of the run to mawlek i have 4 left

[keen thorn]

It's actually Shaman Stone

[trim schooner]

hi lune

hyd

[digital grove]

wtf off by 1

[unique badge]

oh damn I was really close lol

[digital grove]

crazy

[shrewd nymph]

67

[wild sierra]

Shadow creepers[20hp]
-base nail[4 hits]
•strength[3 hits]
>strength+fury[2 hits]
>strength+elegy[5 hits]
•Fury[3 hits]
>fury+elegy[7 hits]
•elegy[10 hits]
>elegy+fury+strength[4]
-Spells
•vengeful spirit[2]
>vengeful spirit+shaman stone[1 hit]
>shade soul[1 hit]
•desolate dive[1 hit]
>descending dark[1 hit]
>top of d dark+shaman stone[1 hit]
•howling wraiths[1 hit]
>abyss shriek[1 hit]
-Charms
•sharp shadow[4 hits]
>sharp shadow+dash master[3 hits]
•flukenest[4 tiny flukes or 1 fluke swarm]
>flukenest+dung[1 hit]
•spore shroom[1 heal]
>spore shroom+dung[1 hit]
•weaversong[7 hits]
•glowing womb[3 hits]
•dream shield[4 hits]
•thorns of agony[3 hits]
-Nail arts
•great slash[2 hits]
>nail master glory[2 hits]
•dash slash[2 hits]
>nail master glory[2 hits]
•cyclone slash[2 hits]
>nail master glory[2 hits]
>extended cyclone slash[1 hit]
-misc
•journal entry[20 kills]
•crystal dash[2 hits]
-1 upgrade[3 hits]
-2 upgrades. [2 hits]
-final upgrade[1 hit]

[zinc iris]

Wow compass is used

[foggy sable]

wait I actually guessed shaman

[unique badge]

I guessed strength

[wary hound]

SHAPE OF UNN weaver song lmao

[royal helm]

Alright I’m halfway thru p2, this is my best run yet

[keen thorn]

Again cuz that wall lol

[shrewd nymph]

Can you not keep sending ts

[foggy sable]

because in a no fury run there is no reason not to use it

[shrewd nymph]

Yo good hru

[wild sierra]

):

[unique badge]

I'm gonna do a run with strength and no shamans just to fix this.

[empty lynx]

SHAPE OF UNN.

[trim schooner]

alright thx

[keen thorn]

Yeah ik...

[zinc iris]

Surprised quick slash is no 3

[empty lynx]

I fucking love hollow knight players

[zinc iris]

Isn't it the best boss charm

[trim schooner]

@mellow fable tell @wary hound to try boundless infinity

[keen thorn]

Translate showed me a weird name as Un and I was like

[wary hound]

NO

[keen thorn]

Please do not be fucking shape of Unn

Checked in game and it was fucking shape of unn

[shrewd nymph]

I did not expect str < shaman
Im guessing like 1 dude didnt use shaman and it messed with the stats

[agile pewter]

Unc

[foggy sable]

if I were to do r5 with weird charms which set would count?

[keen thorn]

No, only your first clear

[empty lynx]

u

[foggy sable]

wow that sucks

[keen thorn]

Actually there are like 5 people who did R5AB first clear so they make stats a bit bad

[empty lynx]

Greyfire on her way to single handedly move qslash to top 1

[shrewd nymph]

Mine isnt in the r5 list (i think) so what if i do another

[keen thorn]

I should probably check that ngl

[digital grove]

1 hit to xero because i forgot my start

[agile pewter]

Thorns of agony grubsong stalwart shell baldur shell

[keen thorn]

Oh true because of the weird title

[foggy sable]

mine only got added after like 6 moths

[shrewd nymph]

I dont want mine in there

[keen thorn]

We need to dm the list manager

[trim schooner]

@livid monolith @mellow fable @noble jewel @south imp peer pressure sun fall into trying boundless infinity pls

[keen thorn]

Why?

[shrewd nymph]

Pls no

[empty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[shrewd nymph]

Because i dont wanna be at the bottom

[keen thorn]

You won't be at the bottom, you will be at the date you cleared

[shrewd nymph]

oh true

Maybe in a while when im not as low i'll submit it

[foggy sable]

I was added after genio but got moved to before

[wary hound]

lmao none of them are even doing that

[keen thorn]

Come on it's for the record lune

[shrewd meadow]

erm explode

[trim schooner]

D:

[shrewd nymph]

Guh but i have boring charms

[shrewd meadow]

genio where is the qq list again

[keen thorn]

Throw

[shrewd meadow]

wtf im one of the 5

[amber rose]

istg sometimes oro and mato have actual bull shit range

[wary hound]

jonis blessing where?

[foggy copper]

I ate it

[trim schooner]

why no grimmchild

[shrewd nymph]

What if they did segment specific builds?

how do the stats work with that

[keen thorn]

Uhhh https://docs.qq.com/sheet/DTXlDRkN0bVBJYnN0

[foggy sable]

time to make an alt and upload a cursed charm list just to mess everything up

[fresh isle]

what is this for

[keen thorn]

Yeah that happened a lot but they don't appear as repeats

[shrewd meadow]

charms used in r5

[fresh isle]

just for first clears or?

[shrewd nymph]

Do they go off what was used more then?

[keen thorn]

Only 1 per clear, as many as there are in that clear

[shrewd meadow]

holy shit no damage four locks five doors and zero nail white method four locks five doors

[digital grove]

2 hit run to mawlek and xero

[fresh isle]

shape of unn is so whimsy

[keen thorn]

No, all builds are taken into account

[shrewd meadow]

wait why am i 167 i dont want those accursed numbers in my clear

[shrewd nymph]

But if i used nmg in just markoth segment for ex, how does it count that

[keen thorn]

If you did
Strength Shaman Quickslash
And then in PV-AbsRad ou used
Strength Shaman Eater

It will output +1 for Strength Shaman Quickslash and Eater

[shrewd meadow]

wait wtf my r5 was in the big 24

[keen thorn]

Since they are used in the run I believe that's the best way to measure this

[agile pewter]

Mine was in

[shrewd nymph]

So if i reclear r5 with the WEIRDEST build on segment 1, i could mess with the stats

[fresh isle]

oh im not even first 50

[shrewd meadow]

baldio

[agile pewter]

: |

[foggy sable]

I wonder if anyone has done r5 but including every charm at one point or another

[digital grove]

die

[wary hound]

thats like when i first got the game

[shrewd meadow]

idk if thats possible

[agile pewter]

Huh.

[foggy sable]

you can if you switch every bench

[shrewd meadow]

probably not enough benches i'd guess?

[royal helm]

Alright I’m at the end of p2, I feel like the boss is going to kick the shit out of me

[digital grove]

ruh roh

[shrewd nymph]

With overcharming and 7 benches, surely

[foggy sable]

I've done a random charm set every bench no repeating charms and run out by the end section

[agile pewter]

Oh that kind of r5
I thought you meant all charms equipped

[royal helm]

Oh it’s my goat sheo

[shrewd nymph]

Unironically would be hardest than normal

[fresh isle]

ive done r5 with random charm mod which just randomizes your charm loadout every transition

[wary hound]

R 5 with that

p5 is ok BUT r5

[keen thorn]

Ok 7 people did Charmless/AB as their first clear

So I think I'm gonna account for that

Hold up

[wary hound]

WATR

[agile pewter]

Wait hold on i havent played hk for like 10 days, what's wrong with all charms there again?

[shrewd nymph]

Well personally atleast, sshadow would throw me off

[shrewd meadow]

thats like not that surprising imo

[digital grove]

dcrest flukenest making shade soul useless

[shrewd meadow]

my first clear was dashless

or as the list puts it "spineless"

[shrewd nymph]

Gwomb is fine bc eater catcher etc

[shrewd meadow]

[shrewd nymph]

But staggers could be annoying

[wary hound]

im gonna do r5 with sharp shadow

[keen thorn]

First recorded clear

[digital grove]

oh my god yeah uumuu

[shrewd nymph]

Sorry to hear that

[wary hound]

recorded OHHH

[digital grove]

uumuu would be so ass

[wary hound]

its not that BAD

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-backfire-death-pain-gif-3684222954881110574

[agile pewter]

Ahhh right.

Ye fair enough

[royal helm]

I first tried sheo

[shrewd nymph]

It messes me up alot personally atleast

[foggy sable]

what if though

you did r5 with sharp shadow

[wary hound]

ill just do it dashless

[royal helm]

Sheo was kinda easy 😔

[digital grove]

its Free Fucking Damage!

[keen thorn]

With the adjustment now 98.89% of clears have Shaman :3

[shrewd nymph]

@ genio @ throw

[wary hound]

spineless*

[shrewd meadow]

that is NOT genio's first clear

my first clear is dashless im the one you should be pinging about this

[royal helm]

17:27 for p2

[shrewd nymph]

You're right there smh

and WHY is your first clear dashless

[shrewd meadow]

why not

[shrewd nymph]

fuck good point

[keen thorn]

Here it is now

[wary hound]

surely if i do
r5 sharp shadow i can be a orange mod

[digital grove]

are there any wingless r5 clears

or dashless + wingless

[jagged crest]

she touched my hollow booty

[foggy sable]

wingless r5 would be so messed up

[jagged crest]

wow
thats alot of stuff
too bad im not readin git
git?
like
git gud?

[digital grove]

[foggy sable]

just do r5 and hope carefree triggers on the damage boost

[keen thorn]

I don't think so
Climb just sucks so much

[digital grove]

true that

[noble ruin]

what da heckity

[wary hound]

wait how would last phase absrad work baldurs? smh???? or can u get on this with mantis claw cause i dont think u can

[keen thorn]

Clover!

[noble ruin]

genio!

[keen thorn]

R5 charms :3

[foggy sable]

you would need to damage boost withc claw

[noble ruin]

why are people using soul catcheri dont understand

[keen thorn]

I got stats

[digital grove]

you can still climb with claw yeahg and dboost to get up in the first place

[keen thorn]

Genuinely good question

[wary hound]

then it cant be r5

oh care free

[noble ruin]

like my only guess is using it with spell twister as well but like

what kinda build they got going on

[foggy sable]

soul catcher has utility in r5

[wary hound]

does it really count tho?

[foggy sable]

trust

[wary hound]

soul eater soul catcher spell tiwster shaman

[keen thorn]

Since you need it to do the challenge yeah

[foggy sable]

+nmg + longnail

[rustic pier]

genio250 cehck hk help

[keen thorn]

Also it's crazy how big the drop from SB to NMG is

[rustic pier]

yes i called you by your full username

[keen thorn]

Almost 90 people

[wary hound]

oh THERE IS NO OTHER WAY

[noble ruin]

spells

[keen thorn]

Susc

[wary hound]

wait wait 100 people DIDNT USE STEADY BODY

nerds

[keen thorn]

It's not that universal mainly because of knowledge

And also old clears don't use it as often

[wary hound]

ohh

[keen thorn]

Same with flukes, only clears past like 2025 use it

[wary hound]

would flukes be good for first clear?

[foggy sable]

I wish I had an interesting first clear

[noble ruin]

flukes make it too hard to see and i like shade soul to keep small bosses the fuck away from me

[keen thorn]

They're a nuke but they're a nuke

[wary hound]

is the flukenest bugged allowed ( not like ik how to use it )

bug*

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[foggy sable]

flukenest is all bug

[keen thorn]

It's like impossible to use flukenest without bugging

[noble ruin]

flukenest is just bugged in general theres no way to use it not bugged

[wary hound]

fair

[keen thorn]

Only against AbsRad or PV

[shrewd nymph]

I think most people use mop > flukenest for more legitimacy

maybe thats wrong but its afaik

[wary hound]

am ngl when i do normal r5 im prob taking nmg off

[foggy sable]

most people use MoP because it is comfortable

[noble ruin]

i dont feel comfortable fighting a lot of bosses in r5 without mop

[wary hound]

fair

[shrewd nymph]

i mean neither but flukenest's ability to skip bosses like galien and stuff

[keen thorn]

I've gotten quite used to Longnail now

[shrewd nymph]

seems so much easier than typical r5

[keen thorn]

Since dashless LN + Sprint > MoP imo

But mini nail is evil

[wary hound]

lune
i need to ask
when transitioning from...

fury 5 to r5 wat should i know or do ( for later im not their yet )

[foggy sable]

longnail is so good

[foggy sable]

learn when to use spells

[shrewd nymph]

use more spells basically

[foggy sable]

in f5 spells are secondary but not in r5

[wary hound]

fair fair

[shrewd nymph]

most fights in f5 i had full soul for

but in r5 theyre essential

[wary hound]

any specifc r5 videos that i could watch for LIKE useful info DONT SAY UR OWN i already watched 13

well most of it

[shrewd nymph]

mine

i only ever watched one of greys and one of genios tbh

[foggy sable]

I haven't watched anyone elses r5 except lune

[keen thorn]

Notice how 0 R5 clears use Fury

[wary hound]

which one ( u have more than one right) ?

[shrewd nymph]

I have an f5 and an r5

[foggy sable]

imagine doing r5 with fury for first clear that would be so funny

[shrewd nymph]

one of each

[wary hound]

wdym?

[shrewd nymph]

i have fairly aggressive / risky strats for reference

[foggy sable]

take fury and don't activate it

[keen thorn]

Imo r04 bosses sre really good too
They get deep into microstrats that can appear in R5 often

[shrewd nymph]

i learned a lil from r5ab videos

[foggy sable]

I didn't do abrHoG until after r5

[wary hound]

how many no hit f5s should i do before r5
one?

[foggy sable]

it doesn't really matter tbh

[wary hound]

fair

[foggy sable]

most people just do r5

[shrewd nymph]

1 imo

[wary hound]

yeh fair

[foggy sable]

but they are so similar it is basically just doing the same run twice

[shrewd nymph]

f5 was just so i got used to the consistency needed but without as much pain

[shrewd meadow]

suscat you are not funny

[shrewd nymph]

After i cleared it, felt no reason to do more until r5

[wary hound]

mmm
ehh

[shrewd meadow]

hi suscat

[foggy sable]

f5 is more pleasant though

[wary hound]

most likely

[wind garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-tidal-wave-geometry-dash-gif-9261461125861922890

[foggy sable]

but, like, after I did f5 and went to finish r5 I got a 1 hit on literally the first day

so they are similar enough the skill transfers

[wary hound]

MAO

[shrewd nymph]

F5 isnt good r5 practise

[foggy sable]

and anyone wondering why I rate them the same it is because of that

[shrewd nymph]

its just good for getting into long hitless runs

[wary hound]

lmao

[trim schooner]

actually peak gif

[wary hound]

watch me go from f5 completion to r5 completion ssame DAY

[foggy sable]

I literally did it in a week

it was so fast because as I keep saying, it is basically the same run in a different style of play

[shrewd meadow]

make me

[wary hound]

wait do u record every clip and then delete the losses
or have it all in one ( per day ) and then remove the non completions ( like editing the video ) assuming u managed to r5 atleast one time

[foggy sable]

I record sessions

then cut as required

[keen thorn]

The Radiance and 2.0 are the same run in a different style of play

[wary hound]

okeyy

[foggy sable]

f5 and r5 are so much more similar

I literally don't understand why everyone is like that

[keen thorn]

F5 is just spam your nail everywhere and bosses die so fast you can't even blink

Or you miss them

[wary hound]

yeh but all the moves are the same

[zealous skiff]

grey can you please acknowledge you are the exception

[foggy sable]

no

look I understand in other cases

[keen thorn]

R5AB < R3 = P5AB = AnyRad 1.0 = F5 = R5 < R4 = RSoulSanctum < P4AB

[foggy sable]

but here I just can't

[wary hound]

dont worry grey ill be like u one day

[foggy sable]

it doesn't make sense to me

[zealous skiff]

you are screaming "why does everyone struggle with rad gpz i first tried him"

[foggy sable]

I did all 3 of the p5 runs at the same time

aaaaa

[zinc iris]

Grey can u admit ur a prodigy

[zealous skiff]

yeah and you are extreely fucking unique

[shrewd nymph]

Guh we went over this

[foggy sable]

it isn't even like there was a skill gap in between doing each one

I just, conceptually, don't get it

[zealous skiff]

lets say someone is good enough to do f5 1 in every 40 att, r5 is basically f5^2, which would mean the same person who had a 1/40 f5 consistency has a 1/1600 r5 consistency and thats not accounting for the fact you can skip phases easier with fury and shit

[keen thorn]

F5 you genuinely just have a ridiculous and atrocious amount of dps that some bosses barely get attacks off so you can get away with way less dodging, way less setups, less specific strategies

[zealous skiff]

there you and you jumped over it

[shrewd meadow]

this is true

[keen thorn]

And also nail is so op spells other than defensive ddark are completely irrelevant

[shrewd meadow]

hitless soul sanctum is the second hardest thing in this game

[wary hound]

this makes no sense icl

[trim schooner]

with killing a primal aspid being the harddest?

[shrewd meadow]

no, its p4ab

[foggy sable]

but I don't think r5 is f5^2

[zealous skiff]

well i do

[unique badge]

wait what's f5 idk the acronym

[shrewd meadow]

fury r5

[unique badge]

oh pff

[foggy sable]

most bosses in r5 just are a non factor anyway

[keen thorn]

No yeah F5^2 is certainly harder than R5

[unique badge]

ugh i really should do r5

[shrewd meadow]

i think f5 is significantly easier than r5

i think i could do f5 2x in a row before i completed another r5

if i started trying

[zinc iris]

In f5 do u start with 1 hp?

[shrewd nymph]

i think f5 > r5 is like p5 > radhog gap or so

[keen thorn]

Almost everyone agrees on that
Grey just happened to do both in 10 hours and feels they're almost the same

[shrewd meadow]

[zealous skiff]

people who were struggling for hundreds of hours to do r5 could <3 try f5

[foggy sable]

well it isn't like that

[keen thorn]

RHoG is probably harder than P5 tho

[shrewd nymph]

You can with mods or just shell binding + oc hit on vfk > void hit with frames

[foggy sable]

I had like 40 in nondescript p5 hitless things

[shrewd nymph]

what? Thats what i said

[shrewd meadow]

i agree

[foggy sable]

then took a break to do p5ab and came back and did both f5 and r5 in about 10 each

[wary hound]

too me thats like 4 bossess ( i did p5 with at most 10 bosses on radhog to spare cause im different )

[keen thorn]

Oh it's arrows

I thought greater than

What is that reply at

[wary hound]

so itss not that much of a gap to me

[keen thorn]

I should just sleep

[wary hound]

( it really is im lieing )

[zealous skiff]

r5 requires you to be fighting bosses for roughly double the time as f5, so its like doing 2 f5's in a row.

[keen thorn]

Fury doesn't cut the length in half

[foggy sable]

my f5 was only 2 minutes faster than some of the r5s

[keen thorn]

Not even for me that I did it after RT

[shrewd meadow]

thats 2 minutes less spent fighting bosses

thats a lot

[keen thorn]

It's not really close because a lot of time is also spent walking but that contributes to tiredness

[zealous skiff]

you cant argue with me something thats an easy 1/3 twice in a row is harder than like a genuine 200 hour grind for a lot of people

[wary hound]

mmm
i dont think so but ima come back to u after my first r5 clear in like few months

[frosty ermine]

hollow knight is better then silksong

[foggy sable]

but a slow r5 and a fast r5 have much more than that already in difference

[wary hound]

f5 this month ? then r5 next month i think i can do that ngl

[zealous skiff]

• how much faster was it compared to your r5
• transition time bloats p5 times

[shrewd meadow]

sure and thats a matter of safety

but assuming the same level of play
spending lets say, 25-50% less time actually fighting a boss, makes it a LOT easier

as well as phase skipping becoming easier

if i had fury on for my r5 dashless, excluding the pause times? thats easily shaving at least 10% of my overall time

[shrewd nymph]

my f5 was like 5m quicker + i was notably worse

[foggy sable]

2.5 mins faster

[keen thorn]

R5: 34:50
F5: 23:50

I did have a pause in R5 tho

[trim schooner]

lol

[foggy sable]

if you take my fastest r5 and fastest f5

[shrewd nymph]

Okay thats crazy

[keen thorn]

So take like 5 minutes

Let's just say
R5: 30:00
F5: 23:50

[shrewd meadow]

my r5 was about 32:30

[keen thorn]

It's still a big difference but nowhere near half

[shrewd nymph]

yh its ur fury strats probably run off spells and whatnot still

[shrewd meadow]

ish

slightly less

[shrewd nymph]

My first r5 was 30:10, my first f5 was like 24:30 or smt

[shrewd meadow]

and thats with a lot of pauses

[shrewd nymph]

fury is busted if u just dont spell

[shrewd meadow]

like at least 4 minutes of pause

if i had fury on for that
thats surely a sub 24

[keen thorn]

What if I do dashless F5?

[shrewd meadow]

thats SIGNIFICANTLY less time fighting

[foggy sable]

maybe I just use slow strats

[keen thorn]

Actually yeah we could put that to the test

Dashless F5 before Dashless R5

[shrewd meadow]

well again i had pauses

[shrewd nymph]

Probably r5 designed strats (no phase skipping, more spells etc)

[shrewd meadow]

oh you mean for yourself

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[shrewd meadow]

personally, my r5 dashless had pretty unsafe strats but thats because i was very used to said unsafe strats

[keen thorn]

Oh also my F5 happened in a 2 hour session the day I decided to do it

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[shrewd meadow]

i bet you despite me not fighting godhome in a very long time, if i opened it up right now and put in the rest of the day to beating F5, i could do it

and it is currently 8pm almost

[foggy sable]

but I think r5 is just about 5 fights

and for at least a few fury isn't that useful

[shrewd meadow]

this is the mindset of a person who hasnt beaten r5 yet 😭

yet you have

thats crazy

[foggy sable]

like, marmu shaman is just as good as fury

[wary hound]

i have been reading chat so much i cant GET FUCKING into a decnent f5 run
why do i like reading so much 😭

[keen thorn]

The filler matters a whole lot

[unique badge]

remembering that i don't care enough but rta to do r5

[worn hamlet]

how do those two things relate lmao

[keen thorn]

It's really what makes the run hard not the actually hard bosses

[wary hound]

cause im reading chat and doing f5

[keen thorn]

In general the filler is what makes most hitless runs hard

[foggy sable]

I never struggled with any of the lategame filler in r5

[worn hamlet]

oh real

[foggy sable]

and the earlygame is just annoying in all runs

[keen thorn]

Because that's where you're most likely to fail

[worn hamlet]

sounds about right

[foggy sable]

I had more deaths to lategame filler in f5 anyway

just chance and less nerve control

[worn hamlet]

the moment you disregard smth as easy or at least not difficult I'd guess that that increases likelihood of getting hit exponentially

[keen thorn]

Something boring means you want to pay less attention means you're more likely to mess up
So yeah something boring is harder because it's boring

[worn hamlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arnold-schwarzenegger-predator-pHb82xtBPfqEg

[wary hound]

traitor lord when i forget that he has drywalk

[worn hamlet]

drywalk?

[shrewd meadow]

90% to 95% is like
easily the difference fury being active can make

[wary hound]

it just walks into u

[shrewd meadow]

and that makes your win rate infinitely higher

[worn hamlet]

like a telefrag that's walk-based?

[wary hound]

why is chat so interesting today

[worn hamlet]

idk I haven't been here till just now lol

[wary hound]

traitor lord after
doing shock wave has the ability to do a walk forward
and he only loses it when he does dash or walk

[keen thorn]

90% win rate is 1.1% chance of victory
95% win rate is 11.5% chance of victory

[worn hamlet]

interesting

[foggy sable]

I just... don't think fury is that big of an improvement over shaman

[worn hamlet]

would gpz's walk qualify as a drywalk?

[foggy sable]

for consistency

[worn hamlet]

for plain r5?

[wary hound]

icl i made up the term drywalk idk if its a real term
but
probably

[foggy sable]

yes

[wary hound]

BRO I CANT DO F5 i keep glancing at chat how do i stop myself from reading this interesting chat

[keen thorn]

GPZ's walk is very reactable tho

[worn hamlet]

I think a 75% increase in dmg, especially if ur stacking it with strength, would be a pretty insane advantage over shaman stone

[keen thorn]

If you leave 5 pixels of gap with the boss it's your fault

[warped silo]

Yall ||pantheon 4|| is so hard and annoying I've tried so many times

[worn hamlet]

o I didn't realize traitor lord's wasn't by comparison

I just know that both look really quick

[foggy sable]

I think the fight where fury matters most is gpz

[keen thorn]

TL's walk is like almost instant

[worn hamlet]

interesting

[wary hound]

y?

[foggy sable]

but even then gpz is fine in r5 because you just kill all the minions

[worn hamlet]

practice practice practice, and if u feel ur getting sloppy take a break

[foggy sable]

you have windows of opening most of the time and you kill in less than 2 staggers

[wary hound]

yeh

[foggy sable]

I will say whenever I run f5 I don't switch charms at pv

[warped silo]

Dude its only soul tyrant and pure vessel messing me up

[worn hamlet]

also don't just practice for the sake of it, pay attention to the boss patterns if u aren't already

[foggy sable]

so that might impact things because it makes absrad harder not having shaman on

[worn hamlet]

what specific problems do you have with them? (specific attacks would help)

[wary hound]

wait should i have been doing this

[foggy sable]

well it makes absrad easier

[keen thorn]

You can just trigger fury again

[worn hamlet]

tbh I always prioritize minions in bossfights where they're limited

[warped silo]

It's mostly just all of pv and then the second phase of soul tyrant

[foggy sable]

not if you have a million lifeblood

[wary hound]

is that even allowed

[trim schooner]

what do you switch to

[foggy sable]

out nmg and fury

[worn hamlet]

are you dashing and jumping in phase 2 of soul tyrant?

[foggy sable]

in shaman

[trim schooner]

ah

[worn hamlet]

or is it the orbs that mess u up

[keen thorn]

Just don't pick it up

[warped silo]

Mostly dashing away from the slams

[foggy sable]

how could you

[keen thorn]

Ik it's cool but cool < actual purpose

[foggy sable]

the lifeblood is the whole point in doing it

[worn hamlet]

oki, so are you jumping the moment after every time you dash?

[shrewd meadow]

but genio...

rule of cool

[warped silo]

Nah but does that help

[kindred pilot]

Why is sly so spry man

[worn hamlet]

yea do that

[kindred pilot]

Stay put you fly

[worn hamlet]

not doing that basically just gives a pointless possibility of damage

[warped silo]

Okay thanks

[worn hamlet]

mhm

[shrewd meadow]

isnt sly an ant

[wary hound]

honestly i have been alot of absrad lately for some reason

doing*

[mortal isle]

Markoth radiant mode is so fucking annoying

[wary hound]

it ids

[foggy sable]

anyway I think my experiences of doing hitless were too different reconcile

[worn hamlet]

and then as for pv, you'll really just need to improve ur skills at the game in terms of reaction time, pattern recognition and a couple more im blanking on

[keen thorn]

Well you can bring lifeblood, bench before tyrant, drop in WL room, skip at PV and trigger again during AbsRad intro

[worn hamlet]

bc if you aren't skilled enough to envision yourself beating pv, then you won't be able to beat pv

[mortal isle]

what does it ids mean

[wary hound]

typo
is*

[warped silo]

Also real quick is it best to get the lifeblood from the bindings first

[mortal isle]

ohh ye Markoth can just die in a hole

hes so annoying

[worn hamlet]

personally, I think you should wait on bindings until p5

[keen thorn]

Wait Macaron

You didn't see this I think

[worn hamlet]

unless ur not intending to do that, in which case just go for bindings

[warped silo]

Okay just checking

[kindred pilot]

No he’s a fly

[worn hamlet]

what do the numbers mean?

[kindred pilot]

Thus the name sly

[worn hamlet]

👍

[keen thorn]

R5 charm usage

[worn hamlet]

I mean it makes sense

wait

what do the integers mean?

[tawdry bolt]

What’s the weaversong use out of curiosity

[keen thorn]

Idk it's just there for some reason

[tawdry bolt]

I mean the situation not the number

[worn hamlet]

o

[tawdry bolt]

Ah ok

[worn hamlet]

wdym by the situation?

[keen thorn]

I didn't look at the runs

[wary hound]

for funnies

[worn hamlet]

like how well it worked?

[keen thorn]

I just translated the spreadsheet and had excel do some calculations

[tawdry bolt]

When do you use it

[worn hamlet]

ah I see

[worn hamlet]

btw genio

[wary hound]

number of uses

[worn hamlet]

ah I see

does that mean there's only been 7 total charmless r5 attempts?

wait that wouldn't make sense bc ppl have done r5ab

[wary hound]

it only counts first completions

[worn hamlet]

ohh that makes sense

interesting

[trim schooner]

nah the r5ab people are just so good that all 30 of them cleared in a total of just 7 attempts

[austere parcel]

whats this?

[wary hound]

ok im taking a break from hollow knightt im bored of it again ima get all achievements from the other game

[trim schooner]

lol aight cya o/

[worn hamlet]

lmao

[foggy sable]

also not necesarily first completions but first recorded completions

[worn hamlet]

fair enough

[wary hound]

r5 charm builds
for first completions

[austere parcel]

ion even know what r5 is 💀

[worn hamlet]

hitless pantheon 5

[austere parcel]

yall some masochists fr

[wary hound]

no they enjoy

[austere parcel]

btw do abilities with shaman stone do more dmg consistently or nail hit with unbreakable strength?

[worn hamlet]

yea no I have nowhere near the dedication to hk to do r5

[keen thorn]

There are 7 people whose first recorded completion was charmless, meaning that they appear in the list charmless

So they skew the data

[wary hound]

they enjoy it there for not masochist