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fair
OH THAT ONE SONG ABOUT MASOCHISTIC LOVE HERE I COME TO LOOK AT YOUR COMMENTS
Yes
frr
Did you see their bio
My therapist keeps telling me to take my meds and it's annoying
therapists are honestly really strange alotta times
well yeah, but do you remember the wording
?? are u fighting maarmu
it's really difficult to find the right one, and alotta times ppl tend to stick with the wrong one bc of various limiting factors
No that boss is ez
I do not
I'll find it
and then so many are just straight up abusive or have mental issues
Decently easy boss. PRIMAL ASPID HOWEVER
i am back
Longnail quickslash unbreakable strength
who is this guy 
no idea how those are allowed to be therapists in the first place ;-;
We genuinely need therapists background checks
Clock the pronouns and wording on the bio
@foggy sable
become the therapist of the therapist
btw what's with the 2 letter name trend?
I hate taking my depression meds bc they tatse bad
fr ;-;
loll
That is so
I always see that face and think spider
5000 hours and not like anything crazy is interesting to me
guhhhhhhhhhhh
im cringing
i think there was another person who was constantly sending their hours (alot of
hours) in chat
LOL
;-; spider
honestly I can see it
and then a buncha people pressed them and it was almost certainly fake
u kno what it actually is tho right
lune started it for personal reasons then everyone copied for silliness reasons
That's.
Not masochism.
Atleast by this community's standards.
Found it
huh interesting
Sadomasochist!
literally, i hate the term anyways because i like difficulty, but i hate pain
Idk
Yes
this has to be ragebait every word of this is like attackable in some way or another
no, that's just the umbrella term that includes sadism and masochism
Have you seen the long copy and paste message of the 'certified hollow knight legend'
Oh darn (I see that pleasure in there bucko)
yup lol
I feel like am a masochist bc I always bite my fingers and cut my wrists
"My regret for doing something easy is is unbelievable."
but I mean
I think you possessed
That was pure gold.
sadism/masochism can refer to non-sexual pleasure as well
Nuh uh
please keep those topics out of the server, sorry to hear that but not here
Ok
it's just very frequent that it refers to sexual pleasure, because of their roots as being pretty much slurs against ppl with those kinks
They keep sending it 
yes that one is so peak
oops
mb
'Certified hk legend' and its getting voidheart and pure nail 😭
Lmao.
I need to get grubs and thats it for pure nail
That one is so funny
legend indeed
self proclaimed 'hk pros' are wtv because hk doesnt have a pro scene
But legend is hilarious
if someone could be a legend for te, then what in the frick would genio be for doing 04r bosses
genio r04 collector when 
lol
TRUE
I only played hollow knight bc cool lore and gameplay
HK does have a pro scene, though.
I need like 2 for my 31st grub
how?
lune I spent 13 minutes earlier on this https://youtu.be/vuEtgkQxy6c
This took an hour it was mildly painful
r04 collector was like the best part about 04rhog tbh
Ain't no way I would consider myself a legend, because I got dem stats
Like. Doing P5AB and stuff.
@shrewd nymph @foggy sable @zealous skiff @smoky matrix
gg GUHHHH
that's not what pro means...?
Hi Spol.
@storm flax
(and like 40 yesterday but who cares)
pro means professional which means making money off of a thing
Markoth is so easy idk why people say he's hard
from the games i usually play, 'pro' is an objective term for people getting paid to play at a high level
meaning any streamer is technically a pro hk person
Gm spol
which has no meaning whatsoever
so in hk its subjective
fireb0rn.
It was less unpleasant than you would think tbh
thats youtuber
Ain't he just dreamsheilds?
Ye
Very happy to be the first ping
sp
God gamer*
And speedruner
they arent getting prize money for organised events they are getting youtube money for youtube
Hk has no official pro scene so people define it wherever
lots of people say like p5 is a pro level ykwim
lqs-er
But anyway, yeah, sure.
Does anyone know this song
I define it as anyone better than me
No. P5 is easy.
Im sorry what
jay elitist arc
Well I am working on PoP and p1ab
Mf, I've always been.
loll
Just a very long arc then
Afk my bf just got back from smth
?
surprisingly
Being an elitist sounds so fun ngl
So more like a line
Like a what?
legacy quickslash user 🙄
Well at some point I got okay at markoth
Back
also insensitive fuckhead but maybe he's changed in the last 3 years
Mb im blind to no pings
What the fuck
Fun
i wait i thoguth i was replyng to a different message mb
Lore drop for us newgens
I want to do it for all the bosses I'm bad at
I feel like you kinda have to be really insensitive to be a youtuber to some degree bc of all the hate you get as someone who has a large following like that
Like I did for galien
yeah im not surprised your goo at the game
you can be insensitive to meaningless hate but like he ran his server like a complete police state
oh eugh
weird
yea no authoritarian tendencies are indeed very different to insensitivity
though definitely related
there's both. there was still the time milky said like one mean thing to fireborn that was 100% fair at the time and he got banned just for that 💀
why i am missing some bosses in hog
Pantheon exclusive, possibly
The DM he got from fireb0rn was so funny.
I've done 4 of them
and despite being a "god gamer" he would overreact whenever anyone insinsuated that lqs anyrad clears were less legit than qs anyrad clears which is like, its fucking anyrad why do you care so much
P5 has 3 exclusive bosses
wait I want to see it
there is new bosses in pantheon 5 except abs rad?
i am cooked
true
he takes his entire "god gamer" persona to heart
not just as a playup for content you mean?
Doesnt help that half the community thinks hes the pinnacle of hk skill
idk im just speculating at this point
true
Ive always wondered what "any%" even meant for a speedrun?
It was funny hearing anyrad isn't that hard
valid
Any game % completion
it's hard to tell alotta times which things are content creators playing things up for content and money compared to what's they're actual personality
i love the term "god gamer" so much
so not like 100/112
Because of all the attention it gets
different to low percent because
low percent priotises lower percentages over time
AH, thanks
since they're entertainers and actively try to pervent knowledge of the tells for that being disclosed since it's tied to their income
Beat the game with any%
So no other requirements
Anyrad? I assume it is just get radiant on any boss of choosing?
@glass jasper do you know why my c dash isnt like- c dashing? its not like starting up
Anyrad is a modded boss
Grey anyrad clear when
Oh?
he called it like top 5 gaming accomplishments when it wouldnt meet the top 10000 not joking
Which got very famous for being difficult
anyrad is a bit harder than p5ab imo
Any radiance, modded bosses designed to be unfairly hard
i think its decently easier, shows that its a weird comparison
you don't have ts in original game, it's for pure masochists
Didn't we have a whole convo on masochism like, 5-10 minutes ago?
Its a semi scripted fight imo
Like, undertale scripted, or not that far?
haven't played undertale
but the whole strategy for grounded is the same thing
All full equipment fights are semi scripted tbf
i dont wanna spoil grey but yeah
is there a fun one 
how long is that for pv
okay yeah sounds about right
Old me skin
where is failed champion fight in hog
Dream nail false knight statue
basically just the pillars tbh
thanks
i rarely see anyone not pogo the lunge like i do
Well I stole a lot of strats for the other attacks
But pillars scare me still
I can see why its hard
guess who's baaack
most ppl here prob don't remember me now that i think abt it-
whens broken nail no happening
even more fun
Only for specific fights I think
grey on any rad
thats what im saying
Not yet
Soon once I get stuck on low equipment
I even have lumafly now so no excuse
I can't imagine anyrad taking long though
anyrad is not fun
give advice pls
🙏
im stuck on pure vessel
hes impossible

dying on this hill
ok
Can explain more than I can here
lune
sunny
am i cooked for pantheon 4
No
for reference nkg took me around 80 attempts to beat
do you got any broken vessel tips
cause its seems the pure vessel broke you
i hate broken vessel
these are good tips iirc
Well 3 people said I needed to add the parry so I did
was i one
Everyone I sent the document to said the same thing
guys should I try doing ab hog and then try doing p5ab if that goes well
bc I don't wanna do the previous ab pantheons but would be fully willing to just practice ab bosses individually very extensively
wait my video is linked in that document 😭
You suscat and I don't remember
its old me though
At the time I had no videos of it
have you atleast done p1-4eb?
It genuienly feels like iam getting worse at gpz now wth
yup
making me look bad with that clip
then yeah doing ab hog is a good idea
also nail binding p5
p1-4ab are irrelevant for p5ab practise
100%
tbf I did write it like 3 months ago
huh interesting
that's super good to know
they arent ascended arenas and the order is different, its just segment practise but worse
makes sense
if you dont have mods then they arent a terrible idea though
same lmao
I can pull off the most insane clutches knowing to man and then the way i die is walking into the flying zoteling after hitting it once
and set up lumafly on that
Like genuienly what the fuck
I estimate I am more than twice as good now
godseeker+ has a feature that lets you practise specific segments (bosses inbetween benches) for p5, that + ab hog is great
oh and i can't get past 3rd stagger now
doesn't godseeker have a bunch of lil things that make bosses easier that u can't get rid of
mines probably really high too since yk learning curve
i got slimed out by soul tyrant of all bosses in pantheon 4
all settings are optional, it just makes practise easier
that's at least what i saw in the readme
oh that's good to know
interesting google doc
which one?
infinite challenge, p5 health, entry animation, absrad climb practise and nkg pufferfish practise, save bindings, segment practise and some other things
A lot of effort went into it over a week
greys p5ab document
what's p5 health?
and save bindings
Ascended arena with attuned hp
oh that sounds kinda boring
fair
It would have made practicing r5 so much easier 
but when im using a controller, which feels super natural, a lil more hp helps a ton with consistency for the actual run of p5
kinda? Idk it's very annoying for me
it just helps to get a good idea of the p5 health in HoG, as normally you cant do that + ascended arena
idk abt how natural mobile controls feel tho so idk
Practice is surely overrated for r5
you dont have to input bindings on pantheons over and over, it just saves them
fair
I decided to take a break from RadAbsRad to test my luck with radiant PV. Turns out I misjudged “luck” because Radiant PV was a BREATH OF FRESH AIR as a brutal, lightning fast, but FAIR, skill check boss.
oh that's nice
gr should i follow your route
mm
I genuinely beat Radiant PV in like 30ish tries
radabsrad is also fair, its just alot harder
just try R5 for like 2 hours a day
following greys route is always a bold idea
yeah no it just feels more fair bc absrad is WAY harder
until it happens
1-2 hours max
and when a boss feels out of reach in terms of skill, it feels very unfair
ok
the two feelings are basically the same
oh wait ur mobile then yeah lowk thats okay
Pick a point and don't reset runs that die after that point
Iam gonna have to hope the pantheon actually has a mark on it when it does hitless because i can't record hk
huh wait why
yeah if I didn't follow a 2 hour max rule for my initial hk playthrough I would never have made it this far
Tell that to the platforming phase where RadAbsRad decides to teleport everywhere BUT in range and spam lasers, lances, and shine sprites from super Mario sunshine
A good idea you mean
because you cant practise segments
I woulda dropped the game so quick
fair
should i remind you of ur p5ab practise
"in range" depends on how good ur movement is
ddark and shade soul
You can't remind me of nothing
and the other thing u described would be commonly known as "having a moveset"
Anyway I practice by running r5
everyone thinks (rad)absrad is rng defined because shes hard, its natural
That counts
Thanks for the advice but the fight just has a TON of visual clutter and analysis paralysis can happen WAY too easily.
but you just gotta know that it is infact a skill check
Me when gpz spawns 3 spiders and is running his ass off;
things always clear up in the mind after first clear
till then it's super hard to understand
Ngl iam VERY tempted to use charms now after my phone literally fucked me over on my best run
Twice
visual clutter is valid when its foreground objects because WHY are they a thing
With challenge runs as well it is demoralising to go for longer
honestly I wonder if that has smth to do with psychology
I still have no idea how I managed to beat radiant GPZ bro has no idea what he’s doing but he’s doing it well
🧢
For one of them it wouldn't let me jump after dive and for the other it genuinely just crashed
hindsight bias ig
I feel like that goes for anything really difficult that's a long-term challenge
fair, but also you get so much more consistent so much more rapidly after first clear compared to before
peak pfp
No seriously how do you noclip through the floor and immediately upwarp offscreen?! HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT BADLY?!

'if i don't know what the fuck iam doing you sure as hell WON'T!"
almost as if there's a mental block in place all the way till u beat the boss for the first time
hk's a relatively low budget game u must remember
very easy to forget with how good the game is tho
And by using charms i mean just shamman stone
please zote i need this
Or Zote’s just so much of a dumbfuck he forgot how basic gravity works
04r zote was so fun but difficult
loll
I can only imagine
04r gpz sounds insane
Trying rab ono might be fun
ono? u mean oro?
meows
Old nail only
mrrp
best build for p5?
It is but like i had 2 deaths past stagger 5 completely out of my control and a heck of alot of them in stagger 3
ok i give up on pure vessel
ah I see
Basically 04r no spells
rippies
that sounds kinda depressing ngl
The classic experience
Net dps charm
Net dps charm
Net dps + soul gain charms
You pick the last 2
strength qslash (shaman/qfocus/mop) (sbody grubsong / catcher / twister / heart)

gr what the fuck
Trying it at least
My loadout was spell twister, quick slash, UnStrength, and shaman stone.
fair
twister shaman on pv is such a cool move
It is all part of the practice experience
I heard that radiant Markoth is the poor man’s RadAbsRad
Sure sure
pure vessel without shadow dash charm(i forgot name sorry)
Like for galien
this is what happens when a person loses all concept of difficulty and just throws themselves into the experience
Sharp shadow?
Fuck are you practicing for girl itemless anyrad? 
YES
sharp shadow isnt good for pv
what does girl mean in the context of this challenge run LMAO
like is girl an acronym im not aware of orr
wdym it isnt good
i think theres supposed to be a comma after it
I practice for r5ab
ohh
its the reason im even making it to the tentacles attack
But in a fun way
I'm genuinely laughing so hard at this
man can y'all let me be lazy for once
logically, it has no justifiable use
Hi chat
girl collector 
wdym
commas are such a funny thing
some people need certain charms because preference yadayada but its not good
The tentacle attack is for aurafarming purposes ONLY but it comes off more as “flasher in a trench coat”
You didn't see me say bagel
Are everyone ok?
I'm practicing for normal anyrad the impossible boss
dies
I hate the tentacle attack
genuinely dying rn
no i am trying p5
or at least I sound like it
lolll
U will do it
ahh my headd aghh
tldr the damage is less than a nail hit, the dash inconsistency requires more focus, and extra dash distance = harder dodges/punishes
why's my head hurt when I laugh too hard eugh
no but you get used to it
its impossible
think so ye
Clearly
nvm i hate markoth
i just want to encounter absrad for practice
real
it makes everything so much easier to dodge
Do.. the bug
wdym
what bug
you can just shade dash later / closer
btw do urself a favor and do absrad on asc once u encounter her before continuing on p5
?
im not saying you cant use it, but its not good
The immortality bugg
bc I did not do that, and I proceeded to choke on absrad in pantheon 5 times before clearing it on my 6th run that got to absrad
sharp shadow doesnt extend shadow dash duration it just lengthens the dash so idk how it would help with dodging other than placebo
I will never forget the pain of that 5th absrad run

genuine trauma
just helps for people that struggle with the timing and positioning
and in such cases, learn the timing and positioning

so it's either give up whine and bitch to sleep or keep those tears back in
ploink
‼️
plaink
plankl
plank's constant
h
Do you find the jumping or chasing minions worse?
ngl atp I don't even remember what it's used for
plank's constantly what?
it's been a year since I did my physics class
photoelectric effect iirc
idk my memory sucks
Do you guys ever just carry your thong around instead of wearing it in public?
ye that sounds right
that thing with the double slit experiment for quantum mechanics
yeah, i prefer enclosed shoes in public
I-
Least comfortable shoes
I guess the jumping ones since i pogo the flies constantly to death
the jumpies aren't so bad themselves until there's 3 of them. Then i genuienly just put the fries in the bag. And even if i do kill them I die immediately after out of sheer stress
wha-
Idk I like my toes to breathe
im so confused
American
well i would send an image
Flip flops are called thongs in Australia i think
I guess the translation is flip flops?
ohhh
but discord isnt enjoying that
that explains alot
Oh! I forgot what that means in America
yeah as an american when I think of a thong I think of the type of underwear
yeah lol
oki
Ah yes getting used to the stress makes it a lot more manageable
Yes!
Sometimes it becomes too much when there's so many of them while iam so close to winning tbh
Some attacks do get me instantly too in some cases
Do you use dive to clear?
what're we talking abt?
My mum started playing hlow knight and though the tik tik was a boss 🙏
Low equipment zote
ohh
Which is a fun challenge
hardest boss in the game
when I think difficult minions I think either at least ab collector or pure zote
and I don't know a ton abt either bc I hate minions in hk that I can't oneshot
4-5 hit minions
just feels really unfair
In zote
and low gear so no narts eugh
Nail arts allowed
I always try to but its either they jump before they get hit, don't reach the floor when dive happens or one of them just genuienly snipes me
Also How do you consistently deal with bodyslam and nail flail instant fail? (nice rhyme)
That flashbang-ass intro with the title card line
It’s cool right up until it starts wasting your time
A bullet hell true final boss playing fair?
Snowball’s chance in hell, one hit swats me out the air!
Stuck on RadAbsRad forever and I hate her a lot
An RNG-filled no hit quest’s Sisyphean plot
Is my charm loadout not right? Is there use in tryna fight her?
I get to the last phase just to be swatted again!
oh good that makes it a bit more doable
In the runs we're taking about
Nail flail stay at the edge of range and pick up on the start up
Wdym?
Ceiling slam you can cyclone slash
only thing im confused on are the last two lines
regarding the rhyme scheme
I based it off the melody of “Hell is forever.”
Stay at the edge of nail range and you should have time to pick the animation
ohh so the rhyme scheme in the first six lines is more so accidental?
I was wondering how you dodge it consistently without getting hit by zote even after shade dashing, is jumping then shade dashing a good idea?
Yknow like how people deal with that one winged nosk attack
(not sarcastic)
o
You can tell the timing from audio cues then watch the ceiling while charging a nail art
ngl idk what "Hell is forever." is
does it have a similar thing where it rhymes aabbcc and then abruptly stops following the pattern?
Once he is falling you can normally avoid without shade cloak then can get in a nail art
Alr
It’s a Hazbin song, listen to it! It has the near-exact rhyme structure.
Biggest problem is still figuring out when he dies but i guess that just reduces stress
wait that actually checks out
yea I'm reading the lyrics and the structure does seem similar
but u seem to have established a pattern which remained unbroken for longer than the song u referenced
or maybe not actually as I read more
this is more complex than my knowledge of poems allows me to understand tbh
but the two structures definitely look similar
Guitar solo fuck yeah
close enough, welcome back shakespeare
Just gotta get into the rhythm of it and it will die eventually
literally. My pattern is either "make it all the way to fifth stagger and die of stress. Or die 20 times in the first few seconds of the fight"
tbh hk taught me to have much better mental fortitude when it comes to getting more consistent at bosses
Why I can't join the voice channels?
bc of not knowing when it's gonna die, I just gotta be consistent till I get the death animation
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there's no urge to stop trying as hard once the health bar gets low bc there is no health bar
yea unlike full gear where i know exactly when he dies there's no way for me to tell
I was thinking more so hk in general in comparison to games with hp bars in vanilla lol
I think what u referenced is more so just not being used to low gear
and it being a refreshing new way to play the game
AHHHH
where do i go after doing qga 😭
I FINALLY DEFEATED MARKOTH IN P5
im so lost
And because my nail doesn't really hit as hard as vspirit so spells are the main source of damage
ggs
so it's really up to how often i use spells
The toll bench. Then deepnest. What speedrun tho
any%
Did you mean melodically, thematically, or both?
yea just go to the toll bench for deepnest
i was able to follow a tut on how to run but they wouldnt show the qga route so im lost asf
Just make it past queen's gardens normally
there's only really one route to follow there
ill do my best
well that's a freaking lie but all i can say is don't go too right-
i accidentally found a spell
kinda both honestly
😇
oh i think i found the toll
the bench toll
Get out of that room and go down
No geo to spare
you need like 250 after beast's den
I like health bar mods for fights with minions
Ah. Yeah. RadAbsRad just feels like a never ending Sisyphus debacle. Was it like an “a-ha” moment?
its chill bc i lwk died in deepnest
yeah absolutely
-# also struggling with radabsrad rn so I feel u lol
want any tips?
yeah sure
although I think I just need to get better at the climb lol
i mean climb if u can try and predict it and get a fast start where u climb fast till laser first appears then play slow and careful trying to wait for the laser to appear before jumping and save ur shade dash so u can dash through lasers
As an Ultrakill player I already have enough PTSD from the word “radiant”
never played ultra kill why is this?
oh thanks that's really helpful actually
Radiant enemies in Ultrakill have a rainbow glow, hit harder, and move faster, having an all around flat buff with no asterisks on their side.
why we glueing people to floors man
glued to the ...other floor
can bosses have this
huh
skill issue
What the dog doin
What counts as a “boss” in Ultrakill gets murkier as you go along.
also guess what am about to get my a 6 star weapon i think
I’m going back in for another round of attempts.
lmao wat
oooooo
i fell at distant village am i crazy and this game or what 🔥 im the next fireborn @empty lynx
Oh yea yk wpn arsenal
well the option to get one
I got an early 6* weapon lol
i might have just got another 6 star character ( i still dont know what their called i keep forgeting )
deltarune blows up gaster greens
Which one
i got a 2nd ember
It would make sense if you played Ultrakill
ok
ok u havent even picked a weapon so how am i supposed to
Ooooo from the event headhunt?
(The first one when u open the hh tab)
Ah yea that ones guaranteed
yeh figured
but How tf am i supposed to decide wat weapoon i want
I hope you are going for sub 5 days
ok
When will green gaster blow up deltarune
11 hours
Ty
Or 11 years
i think im sub 5 day pace
Literally us
ok i got the dreamer wth is the geo for huh?
Stag
doma doma
oh
U don’t have to choose now
15k geo
yeh realised that
now i go beat the game ?
Or u can choose the best one for ur 6stars
Gl twin
inflation is insane
Ewww glued to u
ty twin i appreciate you twin
mmm idk how to check if their good for them
ohh shi true why didnt you tell me this @empty lynx
ts optimal
First person version of a day in my life
Real chads use fragile strength in Low% (it's lower damage than upgrading your nail once)
mmm
wat is the lowest percent in low%
HUH
11% for normal ending and 23% for true ending iirc
You can skip wings in TE
not low enough im dissapointed
55 hours
figured
Am bored
mmm
What should I do
Old nail + upgrade = 9
Old nail + strength = 8
i was huhing the
5
4
9
watever that means
seems familiar
I think that was what it meant
wait what
Ts game is so % slop 🥀💔
ehh tmr
Just saying that upgrading the nail is more op than strength
if it helps, low% ag is 1%
monomonomon
AHH dreamer duping
yep!
should have known
don’t even need the % from dnail 
idk what lowte ag would be
ill check
you would need vh which is at least 1 more
vh?
Voidheart
What different things are there in steel soul in HK and Silksong? (Like npcs, bosses, items)
beat ts in exactly 2 hrs
Hello
in hk
- jiji is replaced with steel soul jinn
- tuk is dead
Who's Tuk?
wait does tuk live in normal saves
really isnt that like infinite geo
no
wait im dum
that’s why they’re dead in steel soul
i forgot lmao
i can’t talk about silksong content but it does a lot more differently in steel soul than hk does
you should ask skdisc
should i get back to hk? i want to finally beat p5 but im really lazy and busy to do so
i mean if you want to
p5 is easy other than a few bosses
idk man it’s a video game
huh'=
like the only problem for me is absrad
oh i heavily read that wrong
HK fans are illiterate.
can confirm I am illiterate
nuh uh
i can read and i want to read i just dont bc education killed the joy of learning
with the stuff i see in this server, i wish i was

is it that bad how much do i miss
what are the top hk main classics
it might be cause i have the processing power of the average rock
Words cannot describe my love-
but words can describe my hate
oh ok. Well I have a job and a degree and a comfortable sense of self, and apparently a better sense of the outer political world than the chat in here, so this criticism doesn't really penetrate so deeply. Keep calling me names if you think it will help.
but numbers can
this is a fav of mine
so true
Crazy.
i love how u always have this on copypaste
but i wasnt even critisizing u
oh ok. Well I have a job and a degree and a comfortable sense of self, and apparently a better sense of the outer political world than the chat in here, so this criticism doesn't really penetrate so deeply. Keep calling me names if you think it will help.
So he just doomed himself

hksr has funnier screenshots than hkmain tbh
todays a hateful day
The sky.
Why are you dying to bosses?
hi j
hi choom

I beat each individual binding on pantheon 5 earlier.
And then I got the secret thing.
Charm was a bit of a pain. Mask was easy. Soul was easy. Nail was easy.
How many warrior dreams are there?
I think 7.
elder hu, gorb, xero, markoth, galien, no eyes? I must've missed one
Marmu.
Oh alright thanks so Marmu and I have all?
from a fresh save?
Yes.
godseeker
so including all pantheons and ascended difficulty
struggled in pv 🥀
idk how easily can you do the hard bosses
radhog = radiant hall of gods? so all bosses on the radiant difficulty?
Yes.
no just radiant hall of gods thats it
uhhh maybe'
2 hours
hmmm i doub that but im starting now
Good luck!
Remember to defeat the Eternal Ordeal
doesnt count
Sure it does.
Doesn't? It sure is in the same place...
doesnt have radiant difficulty
it’s not a boss
and that
Ohh... that's why...
Do pe churo namen o manta dublem…
🐑
But... is it even possible to beat on the normal difficulty?
1st boss down
Well atm i just despise self proclaimed masochism
Just reach 57.
it annoys me so much
But it like, doesn't stop there
does it?
hk gen is just weird
So if you get the Zote counter to overflow from int limit or something
wouldn't that be beating the trial?
jere!
Do you have any tips for the Ordeal? My tank build appears not to be tanky enough
Should I equip shaw-man?
somehow made it deathless on my normal mode savefile
should've attempted steel soul 
jere mention
meow
i miss amelia
I forget what exactly I used, but Shape of Unn was one of them.
I remember before I reached 57 I died at 56.
Is stalwart + qf a good idea? for the guaranteed heals?
Maybe quick focus…
But this is good since you can move away from them while healing.
hmm.. stalwart + qf + unn would give guaranteed heals with next to no risk of getting hit back immediately
I think shaman lets me 1shot the hanging Zotelings with up spell
Hello yall
cracker
banned
who
guys how do i beat sly in p3? i had a very smooth run till sly and bro deleted my masks
im struggling with second phase
i either dodge him or trade hits
practice
also i reccomend trying to stay centered in 2nd phase and dash away when he comes in to attack when he just running around just stay in the middle
Try to use spells on him more
not in second phase
Sometimes it helps to just stay far away and use spells rather than trying to go up close
i cant even get soul if i cant hit him
so 2nd phase is like temporary and he fights normally again?
no he dead after that
I never said not go up close I said its better and safer
To stay further
Obviously you still need to go up closeto get soul
im unable to hit at all , so no soul no spells, and i either dodge or get hit.
im using qs, ubs, shaman and ub hearts
do i swap heart with soul catcher?
or long nail
u should dodge wait for him to stop spin then smack
if he elevated mini jump smack
it’s less about charm build and more about technique
it helps me to watch better players and copy or adapt their strats
how do i hit him in second phase tho? do i dodge when he spins and immediately dash and hit ? or any other technique
ooh
pretty much yeah
ohkay
make sure you don’t go too far when dodging
you don’t really have to do that much, just walking in the opposite direction should be fine
makes your punish window a bit bigger
should i use sharp shadow instead cuz my reaction speed is slower than my laptop
ohhh
i was dashing too far and unable to come back in time to hit so he left and started again
thats a good way, thanks bro
yep ascended is a bit tuff
i have a question do u have any tips for absrad dash slash strat i hear its superior
imo it isn't superior if you have MoP
mm why >
because with quick slash and MoP and whatever you can safely pogo
only without does it take long enough to be worth switching
wat if long nail
Cracker
so I still run pogo with full equipment
good enough
dam
STOP GLUEING PEOPLE TO THE DANG WALLS FLOORS
ROOFS AND OTHER people
Guys
does gathering swarm not work on geo from grubfather?
i edited it twice shuddup
idk
i'd assume
It seems not to...
as I'm standing there and it's not flying to me
I think it'd despawn the geo
it would
You're one of them message logger mfs
Q
Is fighting the watcher knights with 6 masks and 2 nail upgrades hard?
1st playthrough yes
with practice no
Depends on your spells
It was tough for me with 8 masks and 3 nail upgrades 
do you have dodge dash
Oh ok
Not with enough spell upgrades
then may be difficult of you don't know the fight
dodge dash is immensely useful
I have shade soul and descending dark
I had all spell upgrades 
Is it bad that I only learnt that r1 could be used for spellcasting yesterday
Put shaman stone on and you’ll melt em no problem
R1?
Right bumper
Oh
I wonder what caramelita would taste like 
Ant
That's enough HK main for today

Lol
I personally bet it with 5 masks and 1 nail upgrade
Caramel karmelita
😭 💀
I love your lurien pfp not gonna lie
Strat for watcher knight is try to not get hit and try to get sole soul to spam shade souls at both of the knights
Beat?
Ok
It took me like an hour
Regional things
Sorry, it’s the French autocorrect
Lol
Expedition 33
Hello!
yo
Hey
Im gonna try to git gud at pure vessel today
Is beating p5 hard?

Whats Even that question
For ppl playing it for the first time yes
Of course
I meant how hard is it
Hello
Harder than any soulsborne game at lvl 1
Probably
Like I wanna rip my soul out of my body
Relatively no
Wow
But main game yes
And on mobile?
For the first play through
It will take a little while to get used to the order and all the bosses but it won't be the hardest thing ever
Wait i didn't change my server tag
the 2 hardest parts are all the bosses before last bench ( soul tyrant markoth gpz fchamp nkg ) and the last part ( pv into absrad )
Celeste?
P5 is hard because you gotta fight markoth, plus you need to concentrate for well over 30 minutes per attempt
hello clover
Yes
Don’t even get me started with the soul tyrant
Good thing that zote is still in Deepnest in my playthrough
i HATE markoth
Ok fixed it
Soul tyrant isn't that hard
Same
Everybody hates markoth he was terribly designed
I feel like nerves is like one of the biggest reasons p5 is hard
No but he’s really annoying
Like MARKOTH
soul tyrant markoth suck
gpz is skippable but i hate him
nkg fucking sucks
So true
Soul tyrant is fun personaly
I hate him
Nkg is fun tho
soul tyrant is hard but there is worse
Decently
Yess
Not to much
nkg take is real
🦭
nkg is the worst boss for me tbh
Soul tyrant is one of the best bosses in the game
I had a hard time beating it