hk-discussion

[keen thorn]

BV and THK roar but it's the Radiance's roar

[stark marlin]

Which means Zote and Elderbug are definitely not vessels?

[keen thorn]

Yes

[ivory storm]

Elderbug is an old dude that has no knowledge of anything under him

[stark marlin]

I know
I wonder though, how is BV so smart without a mind to think
is it Radiance being smart through him?

[boreal hollow]

True

[keen thorn]

It's the infection

[ivory storm]

I prefer Soul Catcher I'm sry 🥶

[keen thorn]

It also brings corpses back to life to fight

It's like a hive mind of sorts

[foggy sable]

well I eep gn

[ivory storm]

gn gr

[topaz dove]

[ivory storm]

[boreal hollow]

also he is one of (if not the) only NPCs that can actually smell you with defenders crest on

[ivory storm]

the best way to start a conversation NGL

[stark marlin]

Wait; is the Collector a vessel?

[bold rose]

no but he is made out of void

[ivory storm]

Leg Eater can yk

[keen thorn]

Collector is weird
It is a void being but not a vessel

Most likely collector was a failed kingsmold

[bold rose]

its a failed kingsmould

[boreal hollow]

Yeah but he's too freaky

[ivory storm]

also I forgot Elderbug can smell you lol, I've actually never tried that

[stark marlin]

Hmm... when you strike Zote in the colloseum, does he shed soul?

[ivory storm]

he's a comedian

[bold rose]

yeah

[boreal hollow]

Nah he's a creep ngl

[ivory storm]

I think Emilitia also smells you

[keen thorn]

Yes, but not shedding soul is for a being of pure void, like shade, siblings or collector.
Void beings with armor like Pure Vessel or Kingsmolds give soul so that's certainly enough

Strangely false knight with armor doesn't give soul

[stark marlin]

hmm... I figured that one may give soul when stuck only when a) they are not void b) they are controlled by infection

[keen thorn]

Probably because of something about the armor being stolen?

[ivory storm]

he can be crushed by 1 touch of The Knight but thinks is so strong, the funniest bug in the game

[bold rose]

non infencted creatures give soul

[stark marlin]

I wonder, if one struck another Knight like them, would they shed soul?

[royal cape]

Started my second play through of Hollow Knight last night. First tried Mantis Lords, First tried Soul Master, died to Mawlek 10 times 🫠

[bold rose]

gpz is an ass fight 😭

[stark marlin]

but non-infected Voids? otherwise they fall into a) cathegory

[keen thorn]

Probably? Just like PV

[ivory storm]

maybe Ogrim's armour is this good

no wait

Hegemol

[keen thorn]

It can be

[stark marlin]

Ohh right... so it's a question of having the cloak/mask thing
which is funny as they are not needed to contain soul as it seems

[bold rose]

oh you worded it like that both need to be true

also both pv and kingsmolds give soul so

[keen thorn]

They're mostly for keeping it under control

[stark marlin]

Hmm so I was wrong...

[keen thorn]

Void can go through sporadic phase changes

[bold nest]

Nkg beatin my ahh

[stark marlin]

amazing how shade may contain and use soul without this "equipment"

[keen thorn]

Mostly look at the siblings

And the shade

Without a mask they can just dissolve lol

[bold rose]

gpz 4 done

really funny that zote still talks when bretta leaves

[boreal hollow]

I am NEVER doing gpz

wait is gpz required for p4

[bold rose]

if you kill zote in greenpath he is skipped

but no

[stark marlin]

Is it true that I may face Painter in the 2nd pantheon?

[boreal hollow]

If i keep him in deepnest?

[nocturne saffron]

Yes

[nocturne saffron]

Also skipped I think

[boreal hollow]

Hell yeah

i dont wanna fight gpz

what about nightmare king?

if i banish is he skipped?

[tropic nest]

not in p4

[tropic nest]

no

[bold rose]

how is this flower quest charm build

[bold rose]

nope he still appears

[coarse latch]

Nightmare king bumm

[karmic merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-2304813690984408828

[nocturne saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/niko-one-shot-gif-14574844360591873989

[karmic merlin]

Youll get used to that fraud

[bold rose]

a ver weaver wise

[karmic merlin]

Yes

[nocturne saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1450705165089898496/1469719466060284046/textbox.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1450705165089898496/1469719466060284046/textbox.gif

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[nocturne saffron]

It's 2026

[frozen storm]

use steady body

[bold rose]

why
elegy

[magic storm]

<@&283547423706447872> people spamming silksong stuff

[nocturne saffron]

Do elegy with fury

[bold rose]

i want to be able to bench to get soul

[nocturne saffron]

Just kill enemies

At close range

[bold rose]

i do it with spells

[nocturne saffron]

Also, just like kill all the enemies through your path first, then get he flower, and never bench

Because that respawns all the enemies again

[bold rose]

FUNFACT: THEY FIXED THAT

[nocturne saffron]

They did?

[bold rose]

a few versions ago in fact

[torn geyser]

fixed what

there is no bug involved with flower quest enemy prepping

Some enemies only respawn upon benches

if you don’t bench

enemy no respawn

[bold rose]

okay

[torn geyser]

I see no bug in that

[bold rose]

getting the flower resets all enemies

[torn geyser]

I lost multiple runs to this because I didn’t think of sharp shadow

[bold rose]

i jumped on accident

it does

dreamgating dosen't but picking the flower does

[warm aurora]

I just met absrad!!!

[torn geyser]

no it doesn’t

you claim it was “fixed” a few versions ago, when I started playing on the version before the current one
I did flower quest with the prep strat

[torn geyser]

haaaaave funnnnnnn

[hidden spire]

Memories in Orbit.

[warm aurora]

My best attempt so far has been the one when I got there in p5

[torn geyser]

https://tenor.com/6kgQ.gif

[bold rose]

ok so i was just lied to

ok never fucking mind i got lied to

[ripe moth]

yeah hardsave not benching

makes sense

[torn geyser]

it prevents going on a separate bench and quitting out to complete the quest

[bold nest]

Nkg aint no fraud man😅

[torn geyser]

which makes sense

[stark marlin]

I think I'm way overgear for pantheon 2

[torn geyser]

It gets better once you start learning his moveset

[ripe moth]

charms look alright

but you need compass

[jolly stone]

eh idk

i beat p2 like first try upon revisit (after beating p1)

i used strength tho

[stark marlin]

I blitzed through it with no mental effort
although I didnn't know what bosses are there and stuff

[bold rose]

interesting build

[jolly stone]

quick slash my beloved

[ripe moth]

jokes aside that is a wild charm build

[torn geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/autocratic-intentions-autocratic-intentions-helldivers-squid-gif-1789989765322212039

[stark marlin]

The whole panteon took me less time than the 1st, and was essentially a cakewalk
I didn't use brain

[bold rose]

p2 is easier due to no oro and mato

[jolly stone]

grubsong is good for early game but if you can strike the boss as much as you have to then it’s not necessary

[rare kettle]

omg soul tyrant real

[stark marlin]

and p1 has gorb right?

[jolly stone]

quick slash is basically soul eater in itself btw

[torn geyser]

entirely heal based

only thing I swapped it out in was like

rad markoth

[stark marlin]

Put together to just go in and see what's there
and got me comfortably to a free win

[jolly stone]

quick focus is good but i wouldn’t say it’s worth the cost
but at the same time it’s how i beat radiance so

[torn geyser]

I think it always shows iirc

[idle mango]

no its guranteed

[warm aurora]

Exactly my sharpshadow and sprintmaster argument

[torn geyser]

got me through pure vessel originally

[stark marlin]

with this build I was allowed to mostly ignore what sheo was doing
and sit and calmly hold "a" if I wanted to

[torn geyser]

gives you 2 heals per stagger

[jolly stone]

i lowkey love sharp shadow but i don’t use it for godhome cause fragile heart is better

[torn geyser]

it’s best for long bossfights with minimal healing windows

[mossy needle]

I did Absrad :3

[ripe moth]

yippee :3

[pure valve]

fuck deepnest
herrah the beast more like herrah the worthless little fuck

[rough grove]

Mpreg fish back

[ripe moth]

I played hog for the first time in forever and absrad took me I think 4 tries?

[wicked trail]

shaw

[robust wolf]

shaw

[torn geyser]

Mato the goat

[ripe moth]

and then I did hitless to climb then died on climb

[rough grove]

dih

[mossy needle]

yippie! also ewwo :3

[ripe moth]

hai :3

[urban grotto]

hegale

[jolly stone]

i lost both my steel soul runs to brooding mawlek cause i never practiced bro enough cause i’m never able to get past god tamer (unless i’m misremembering and it isn’t in p3)

[warm aurora]

Not fragile heart...

[rough grove]

Mpreg Fish

[warm aurora]

I use spell twister

[mossy needle]

how u doin :3

[warm aurora]

Sharpshadow would be 2nd

[ivory storm]

Absolute Radiance has no changes with difficulties?

[rough grove]

No.

Entities within this mortal plane, can we all agree aquatic animals are amazing?

[carmine lava]

no changes yes

[ivory storm]

imagine Spell Twister in Angry Birds Epic

[ripe moth]

going to bed

[warm aurora]

Hmm

[torn geyser]

reminds me of the time I accidentally fell in deepnest with minimal upgrades

[carmine lava]

they’re not asking about differences between absrad and radiance

[torn geyser]

in steel soul

ye

[ivory storm]

the only boss

[torn geyser]

had to go all the way up to tram pass WITHOUT LANTERN

and go back down to tram

[worldly remnant]

yo

[pure valve]

i had coiled nail, upgraded spells and 9 masks (actually 7 but i had fragile heart)

[ripe moth]

I hate deepnest I would actually prefer to be hit by a train than be in deepnest for longer than absolutely necessary

[worldly remnant]

hi i am new

[ripe moth]

hi new

[rare kettle]

honestly deepnest isnt that bad

[ivory storm]

LOL

Cloth Traitor moment

[hidden spire]

Hell on earth

[torn geyser]

I had old nail, fragile heart so 7 masks, white spells, and no lantern

[ripe moth]

I just can't deal with the forground spiders </3

they just are so

a

[worldly remnant]

my friend said deepnest is ez is this true

[rare kettle]

half true

[pure valve]

yeah! deepnest is an amazing and easy area, you will love every second you spend in it

[torn geyser]

I love deepnest’s atmosphere

very creepy place

[pure valve]

trust me man

[ripe moth]

yuou are actually just lying

[rare kettle]

just have herrah be you last dreamer and youll be fine

[hidden spire]

Queens garden is hard but at least it's pleasing to look at

[ivory storm]

Down under by Men at work is a W song

[torn geyser]

-# I also happen to like spiders

[pure valve]

queens garden is my favorite area

[rare kettle]

i second that

[hidden spire]

Hell yeah🔥🔥🔥

[ripe moth]

I could never

I also happen to be australian these things don't go well together

[hidden spire]

Australia

[bold rose]

okay

[hidden spire]

the land down under

[ivory storm]

is this why you like Grimm

[ivory storm]

don't slip

[hidden spire]

do slip

[bold rose]

done

[torn geyser]

a part

maybe

[rare kettle]

[torn geyser]

I also just like his style

[ripe moth]

grimm is based

[hidden spire]

Fang | #1 Grimm Hater

[worldly remnant]

looks ez

[hidden spire]

becauS ummm

[bold rose]

i am #1 Nightmare King Grimm Hater

[torn geyser]

there’s not really any dangerous spiders where I live, so I’ve never really minded them once I got older

[ripe moth]

the context is this is after going across the whole map without taking damage

[hidden spire]

Yea me too

[ripe moth]

even not dangerous I just can't they're so creepy I just

[worldly remnant]

sounds ez

[hidden spire]

the spiders here are very thin and is one inch at most

[ripe moth]

holy ragebait

[bold rose]

last mask shard :D

[ripe moth]

absrad is quite difficult

[hidden spire]

Hell yeah

[rare kettle]

congrats man

[clever flame]

p5 all bindings? piece of cake

[quartz cave]

@ripe moth @ripe dagger

[ripe moth]

that's me :3

[quartz cave]

haii hyd

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

@naive dew

[rare aurora]

gmcb

[bold rose]

i mean i did flower quest already before but

[naive dew]

HIII osdl

[quartz cave]

melone hop on two letter codename

[torn geyser]

I am quite the opposite

[naive dew]

hiii alp

[ripe moth]

I'm getting pinged as hi now

[rare aurora]

yoooo osbald what os are you

[quartz cave]

@bold rose

[torn geyser]

personally it is my favorite boss battle

[bold rose]

i am making a new savefile

[bold rose]

?

[quartz cave]

osmanska riket 🦅

[rare aurora]

hii

[naive dew]

okay

[bold rose]

you want me to change myself to RG?

[quartz cave]

i meant to ping alp but u can keep the ping ig

[ripe moth]

anyways bye I'm going to bed (I'll be back wehn I'm in bed)

[rare aurora]

dni

[bold rose]

what

[quartz cave]

gn freddie

[bold rose]

grimm or nkg

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

why do you hate ottoman empire 😭

[bold rose]

regular grimm is eh
like its bad but its not that bad

[torn geyser]

Quote 💔

[quartz cave]

hai hru

[torn geyser]

both

[mossy needle]

Oh okie sleep wellsies

[quartz cave]

TOO MANY PINGS IM OVERSTIMULATED

[torn geyser]

I like both

[zinc iris]

Everyone doing the 2 name thing

[naive dew]

hiii good wbu

[zinc iris]

Spol is a trend setter

[torn geyser]

NKG is my favorite boss battle in the game

[quartz cave]

@zinc iris @mossy needle

[rare aurora]

sharia + monarchy + mid

[zinc iris]

@quartz cave

[torn geyser]

well
nkg is optional

[mossy needle]

@quartz cave @quartz cave Ossie oswald OBS hi

[torn geyser]

tmg isn’t

Still optional

[rare aurora]

and too many arguments with neo ottoman empire believers

[stark marlin]

is 11:46 fast for pantheon 2?

[torn geyser]

Charm notch

[robust wolf]

seh yea

[torn geyser]

boss required for 112%

[bold rose]

okay so all i have left to do is

• journal
• grind 21k geo for unb charms
• import my hog and pantheons achievements from my main file using cheats ( can't do it rng due to lack of debug for the newest update )

note i did do the hog and pantheons legit but i want to have them on my new savefile

[torn geyser]

Nkg is optional since banishment exists

[rare aurora]

pls save yourself your time and don’t grind for the unbreakables

[bold nest]

Sheo is gay, tf u get that from?

[bold rose]

why

[hidden spire]

Does banishment give %

[bold rose]

yeah

[rare aurora]

it’s not worth it

[hidden spire]

Ohh

[torn geyser]

either way works iirc

[bold nest]

[robust wolf]

just banished nkg

[stark marlin]

true that banishment deprives you of the amazing grimm bossfight?

[bold rose]

i want to have a best savefile and banishment removes the ability for me to get unbreakables

[rare aurora]

if you really really want to, unb strength is kinda worth getting, but the rest…

[bold nest]

Duckin smoke?

[robust wolf]

[bold rose]

you can either do nkg or banishment

[rare aurora]

ah ok it’s just a completionist thing
gl then!

[robust wolf]

yes

[torn geyser]

nope

nkg shows up only in p5 banished

[bold nest]

[torn geyser]

and that is optional for 112%

[robust wolf]

i don't want no smoke with that man

he got that

[bold rose]

yeah i already did p5 on my main file lmao

[hidden spire]

Hee from under there

[rare aurora]

..? why are we being weird

[lunar spade]

this fuck ass game makes my chest hurt

[hidden spire]

Homophobia probably

[bold nest]

I banished him on my first playthrough, but carefree melody is worthless so..

[bold rose]

if you do banishment then you get him in hog

[robust wolf]

its gonna give you a heartattack

[bold rose]

better than grimmchild xd

[lunar spade]

i still can't beat pure vessel

[rare aurora]

neither is worth using

[lunar spade]

i've gotten slightly better but the fight still ends very fast

[torn geyser]

anyways I like NKG’s theme and bossfight because I think it perfectly encapsulates the cycle of the grimm troupe

[rare aurora]

fair enough

[bold nest]

Yeah imma stop right there, u got it g

[hidden spire]

Grimmchild white palace

💚💚💚

[torn geyser]

haven’t gotten to that point in my steel soul playthrough yet

[bold rose]

grimmchild pop

[torn geyser]

so I wouldn’t know

[bold nest]

How, cuz it never did nun for me tbh

[robust wolf]

its good for cheating death in radiant but the three notches aren't worth..

[rare aurora]

grimmchild fog canyon..

[hidden spire]

hmmm

[bold nest]

Its literally gambling

[rare aurora]

even then it’s just a chance and you’re just better of using something that’ll make the boss die faster

[torn geyser]

pretty sure it got someone a rad anyrad 2.0 win iirc

[robust wolf]

my favorite ya

[bold nest]

Just use a lifeblood charm

[hidden spire]

Grimmchild helps you

💖wholesome

[bold nest]

And tank an extra hit

[hidden spire]

huhh what

[bold rose]

oh right tiso still here

[hidden spire]

Ohh

[robust wolf]

wow ok..

[torn geyser]

but again

[dreamy basin]

Why are the vcs dead i need background talking to draw or else i don't get inspired

[torn geyser]

gambling

https://tenor.com/bUqfe.gif

[ivory storm]

am I rigged or Absolute Radiance is a lot easier than people think

[hidden spire]

PC Champions's Call all bindings

[ivory storm]

yeah but

[dreamy basin]

how it feels to try to find vcs with people

[ivory storm]

I mean

[hidden spire]

only like, eight victor iirc

[torn geyser]

it can be hard for a lot of people

some are just better than others

[rare aurora]

difficulty is subjective

[bold rose]

is this area just blocked forever if you don't open the lever

[ivory storm]

that's the thing in the first place, practice her in HoG before going again as you have very little experience and are very likely to fail miserably (I've done it multiple times)

[hasty helm]

if you've been playing since 2024 it's gonna be easy lol

[bold nest]

Just play it in 5080 when we got ps5 and xbox 1 emulators

[torn geyser]

it took me a lot of time to get decent at absrad

[bold nest]

Save state

[ivory storm]

I got her hitless (almost) on ascended, feel like some other bosses might be harder, hot take

[rare aurora]

or just play on pc that already has savestates..?

and there are easier ways to cheat anyway

[ivory storm]

I know the types of playstyles you need on Radiance and other bosses are different

[torn geyser]

now I can consistently beat her no hit first three phases

[bold nest]

Excuse my stupid

[dim flare]

[torn geyser]

have yet to conquer climb on radiant though

[bold nest]

U can make it interesting, just savestate at a bench mid pantheon

[torn geyser]

That’s

[dim flare]

After that you might be able to kill a damn aspid

[torn geyser]

just cheating

[strong skiff]

i wonder if ill get through phase 1 today

[torn geyser]

I don’t have a problem with the last phase anymore

I got good at orbs
climb is the problem

[rare aurora]

what are you doing roman empire

[strong skiff]

easy mode of sunset samsara

[bold nest]

Ikik

[torn geyser]

beating absrad and beating absrad in p5 are very different things

[hidden spire]

Orb like Orbit like Memories in Orbit BEST GAME REFERENCE

[torn geyser]

you don’t get a 4 second retry in p5

unlike hog practice

[bold rose]

ok i looked at the wiki and i think i got all the dream trees

[torn geyser]

also p5 itself makes absrad harder because messing up muscle memory via other bossfights

[high phoenix]

Just encounter

[torn geyser]

encounter

[hasty helm]

yeah, p5 absrad is different ||because you very likely start with soul in p5 😈||

[rare aurora]

yooo is that benji

[pliant oxide]

MY WRAITHS ARE HOWLING

Guess you could say it reaches the cliffs...

[bold rose]

nice

[high phoenix]

alppppppp

[torn geyser]

mobile so trippy

[pliant oxide]

I completely forgot this spell existed even😭

[rare aurora]

how have you beennnnnn???

[high phoenix]

Busyyyy, life is crazy as usual- also got a new cat

[torn geyser]

my dumbass originally didn’t use spells on absrad

[hasty helm]

same

[strong skiff]

not going too well
i've spent like 1.5h on phase 1 so far and didnt get past it

[rare aurora]

pic or it didn’t happen

[hasty helm]

i used shaman stone on my first p5 clears cuz it's one of the best charms but i barely used spells

[torn geyser]

at least p5 is nice enough for pv and absrad having a full heal inbetween

[bold rose]

idk

[zinc iris]

No

If u banish he does

[rare aurora]

yeah that’s kinda the whole point…

[zinc iris]

Oh Grimm

[nimble cargo]

Ascended nkg is whooping my ah so hard

[ripe moth]

hiw has chat.beej in my absence

[high phoenix]

Discord mobile doesn't want me to add photos in this server for some reason

[zinc iris]

I read that wrong

[rare aurora]

oh it’s because there are new perms now

[zinc iris]

Oh ur here u have some rlly cool content man

[nimble cargo]

Guys help ascended nkg is whopping my ah

[rare aurora]

@fresh isle pls bless benji with image perms

[torn geyser]

the cycle continues

[high phoenix]

Ohtrue

[nimble cargo]

Haha

Help me beat his ah on ascended

He needs to die

On ascended

[fresh isle]

done

[rare aurora]

tyyyy

[split sinew]

I can't believe there are Halo needles in Hollow Knight.

[nimble cargo]

Yeah it’s just getting hit by like the uppercut move

[rare aurora]

YOOOOOO

[high phoenix]

She’s a shy sleepy girl

[rare aurora]

jealousy

[ripe moth]

I love cats

[nimble cargo]

For eg I’m moving to the corner he spans his ah out of nowhere then I try to shadow dahs through and he his back and uppercuts my ah

[torn geyser]

you slay him for him to be born anew in grimmchild

the ritual

[nimble cargo]

I know that but he like back dash’s

[ripe moth]

he does that when you're too close

[nimble cargo]

Actually wait I was just going a little earlier lol

Gonna put another attempt

[torn geyser]

timing is everything in this fight

[ripe moth]

that's kinda like the whole game

[merry obsidian]

Ahem

[torn geyser]

especially this fight however

[bold rose]

i got inspired by that one silksong video i saw about going from the bottom to the surface without touching the ground and decided to do it in hk

[ripe moth]

I saw what you deleted

idk what it was but I saw it

[lunar spade]

i feel like i'm making zero progress when it comes to pv

[rare aurora]

silksong spoilers

[lunar spade]

this shit is genuinely frustrating

[nimble cargo]

Just stab

[lunar spade]

no shit?

[torn geyser]

which attack are you struggling with

[bold rose]

i don't really know what i would even use ( sharp shadow for dash lenght, compass to know where i am on the route, dashmaster because it could help idk, mop longnail for more bounce range and grubsong filler )

[nimble cargo]

I die

[lunar spade]

i can only fight the same 11 bosses so many times bro

[lunar spade]

the flying swords

they fuck me up the most

[torn geyser]

practice in hog

[nimble cargo]

Nkgs spikes keep killing me

[torn geyser]

shade dash through

[strong skiff]

is this a skill issue or is the boss just very hard

[nimble cargo]

I love hog

[lunar spade]

the boss is very hard?

he's faster than the hollow knight

[quasi forge]

thk is not meant to be hard

[lunar spade]

also doesn't stupid damage

[torn geyser]

second hardest

[lunar spade]

yes it does bro

[rare aurora]

the boss doesn’t really play like an hk boss all that much

[torn geyser]

harder than nkg
easier than absrad

[quasi forge]

no its not lol, pv is, thk isnt

[lunar spade]

if i falter for even a second, that ruins the fight

[torn geyser]

we are

[strong skiff]

i could maybe see that
its just fat as fuck

[torn geyser]

talking about pv

[nimble cargo]

I find nkg harder then pv

[quasi forge]

what

[strong skiff]

its like impossible to do damage with the 1k or even more hp sheild

[robust wolf]

gpz the hardship

[lunar spade]

i have sharp shadow on

[rare aurora]

what are you playing again??

i don’t remember a shield

[lunar spade]

but even then, it's still hard

[strong skiff]

sunset samsara (2?)

the easy version

[torn geyser]

coffee is struggling with pure vessel in p4

[rare aurora]

did i miss something

[lunar spade]

yea

i'm literally so close bro

[zinc iris]

Mod?

[strong skiff]

i guess so

[torn geyser]

ye

and also no walls in arena

[quasi forge]

o-kay

[lunar spade]

i'll try to dash through the swords

[zinc iris]

It's so dam tanky

[rare aurora]

secret boss added in the new update

[strong skiff]

the mod is called purity

[zinc iris]

Hi Chuck

[torn geyser]

which gives more room to dodge

[quasi forge]

hii herb

hows ur day

[ripe moth]

buh??

[torn geyser]

I was saying walless pantheon arena is easier

[nimble cargo]

I died again

[quasi forge]

yes?

[zinc iris]

Decent weekend starting so gonna rest a bit

[torn geyser]

I wrote was backwards

[lunar spade]

wish me luck i'll try to dash through the swords this time

[torn geyser]

somehow

[nimble cargo]

Ima kill this goth

[zinc iris]

Hbu

[quasi forge]

nice im in school rn for a little longer

then yay 3 day weekend

[zinc iris]

[ripe moth]

with full equipment it's not that hard but at the stage of an average playthrough making it there it is meant to be hard

[quasi forge]

dont you generally get to thk with good equipment lol

its on of the final bosses

[torn geyser]

anyways time to disappear

[pearl sage]

Potato.

[torn geyser]

speedruns:
basic hollow knight ending:

[quasi forge]

why are you mentioning speedruns for first playthrough? and yeah, from what ive seen, and the people i know, most people have pretty good stuff before thk, if not full (which was me)

[ripe moth]

unfortunately the problem with a game like this is it's hard to know what the average person would have but I'd think like nail 1 probably white spells

[nimble cargo]

So close

I got a 4day weekend

[ripe moth]

nail 2*

[nimble cargo]

Friday and Monday

[quasi forge]

ive quite literally never seen anyone get to thk with that little as their first playthrough, and i have 12k messages in the help channel

[ripe moth]

fair

what do people normally have

[bold rose]

bad news: i can't make it through the abyss door

[pliant oxide]

Do the relics have no use other than being traded for geo?

[bold rose]

yeah but they give a LOT of geo

[quasi forge]

as you said it varies since this game is nonlinear, but generally black spells and smth like coiled nail, smth like 7 or 8 notches

[pliant oxide]

Deepnest exists twin

city of tears too

And the double moss knight at greenpath

[bold rose]

nail 1 white spells and a few charms and nothes and 7 masks probably ( also 1 soul vessel ig )

[bold rose]

1200 per egg

[pliant oxide]

Wait how much does the king's idol sell for

[bold rose]

( these )

[pearl sage]

Was it a good idea to get 112% and beat the entire game on my first save file

[bold rose]

it goes 200 / 450 / 800 / 1200

[quasi forge]

idk ive seen pretty differently

but yeah its impossible to tell

[bold rose]

i got shadow dash before thk

[pliant oxide]

I have 2 cuh💔

[zinc iris]

I've never seen someone w nail 1 yet

White spells ye

[bold rose]

nail 0 or 1

0 is no upgrades 1 is for 250 geo

[zinc iris]

I call the base nail as nail 1

[pliant oxide]

LET'S GOOO SEER GAVE ME THE PALE ORE

I'M SO INTO NAIL UPGRADES

[zinc iris]

The one u start w in kings pass

[ripe moth]

base is nail 0

[quasi forge]

yeah thats what i call it too but most ppl call it nail 0

[strong skiff]

man

[ripe moth]

I should stop arguing about difficulty it's so subjective

[spare mirage]

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[nimble cargo]

What is breakfast food

[strong skiff]

bro this attack does 4hp what

[quasi forge]

nice try bro 🥀

[nimble cargo]

Bro I can’t see this

[bold rose]

okay so i guess i can do " minimum ground touches " instead of no hits

[bold rose]

are you overcharmed?

[ripe moth]

it's not real what you see is the message they sent

[nimble cargo]

No like discord is not letting me view

Like its says message hidden

[ripe moth]

it's not real what you see is the message they sent

[nimble cargo]

Oh ok

[warm aurora]

||I fell for it||
'Again'!

[spare mirage]

LETS GO

[nimble cargo]

Nvm your right

[spare mirage]

I GOT THE RICKROLL

HEHEHHEHE

[nimble cargo]

Dang it

[ripe moth]

I did figure it'd be a rockroll

[warm aurora]

It does work very well

People would be sharing that rickrollless these times

[nimble cargo]

Never gonna rockroll

[spare mirage]

Time to troll the lore channel

[strong skiff]

no

[zinc iris]

Purity radiance seems to have alot of hp

[robust wolf]

theres a mod

its so over

[zinc iris]

From what I've seen

[quasi forge]

herb go to #1408119028400001157 rq

[zinc iris]

Vids

[strong skiff]

its like infinite

[zinc iris]

Truly a peak channel

[quasi forge]

(hkt)

[strong skiff]

it has 4 or 5k and every time it gets at least a 1k sheild

[zinc iris]

Sounds "fun"

[proven torrent]

it is fun

[pliant oxide]

My nail now does THIRTEEN damage

I have enough geo for coiled nail I just need the two pale ores, easiest ones being from nosk and the kingdom's crown

[ripe moth]

back to relative normality hello hk-discussion

[safe wraith]

how much does pure nail dmg do

[pliant oxide]

21

[safe wraith]

how much with strength charm

[ripe moth]

32

[safe wraith]

ok

[strong skiff]

that was a pretty good run

[amber rose]

I beat pantheon 4 guys!

[ripe moth]

yippee

[bold rose]

W

[frozen storm]

I only got her shield down once

[ripe moth]

why do I keep clicking on the trainwreck that is hk-general

[vernal knot]

Amusement, perchance

[strong skiff]

guh

surely i pull out lqs

[subtle glacier]

no shot

[strong skiff]

i would really benefit from gsong here

[pliant oxide]

Today is one of the biggest days for me

[strong skiff]

levi would hate me and it would be justified

[pliant oxide]

By tomorrow I should probably beat the game tho...

[strong skiff]

im not using lqs

[ripe moth]

gg shoul

I'm never calling it that again why am I like this

[vernal prairie]

Congrats.I didn't even know such upgrades existed in my first run.

[pliant oxide]

Soul master or bv now?

What do you think?

Actually I never fought soul master...

[ripe moth]

shade soul before soul master?

[pliant oxide]

This is going to be bad😭

[ripe moth]

wild

[pliant oxide]

Literally only upgrade I know how to get

I forgot dd and shriek💔

They are probably late game anyway

[ripe moth]

I barely know how to get shade soul

[pliant oxide]

Crazy thing being you don't need vengeful spirit to obtain shade soul😭

[ripe moth]

like I know but like it takes me a minute to remember

[ripe moth]

isn't dash and shade cloak the same

I may be wrong

[pliant oxide]

Shade cloak just gives you invincibility while dashing

And allows you to pass through dark portals

[ripe moth]

but it's an upgrade to dash

[pliant oxide]

Not "portals" but more of blockways...

[ripe moth]

also like I really don't need this explanation I have about 350 hours in the game

[pliant oxide]

I mean shade cloak is a utility,

And unless you are REALLY determined to not get mothwing cloak

Yeah shade cloak is possible with the mothwing cloak

[stark marlin]

it's optional unless for true ending?

[pliant oxide]

It isn't optional actually

Shade cloak is needed

[stark marlin]

for normal ending?

[quasi forge]

for the true ending only

[strong skiff]

that was a pretty decent run as well

but this takes so much time dude

[pliant oxide]

Don't you need it to beat the teacher tho?

[stark marlin]

I think isma's tear or cdash work to replace it

[quasi forge]

nope

[vernal knot]

yo

[stark marlin]

Are you chuck main?

[ripe moth]

or sealed siblings

[pliant oxide]

Well if we are talking everything terms..

You can do wall cli-

[quasi forge]

no what a horrible brawler

[stark marlin]

well, simply to get the black ununequipable charm

[stark marlin]

1. chuck is your picture 2) chuck is peak of meta

[pliant oxide]

so CANONICALLY shade cloak isn't needed for true ending either!!! (That's if you have no life and spend 2 hours learning how to wall clip)

[vernal knot]

Shadow gate for WLs fragment

[quasi forge]

1. yeah so im contantly reminded how much i hate him
2. simply false

[stark marlin]

Well I tend to assume nmg

[vernal knot]

Unless you use glitches ig

Shade Cloak is required for every ending except basic one iirc

Glitchless

[pliant oxide]

Alright guys hot take now: soul sanctum has the best area theme.

[strong skiff]

maybe i'll try unequipping qf

[sour rock]

Yo guys

I’m stuck in an area

[stark marlin]

Hmm... has to compete with white palace and queens gardens

[sour rock]

And I don’t know where to go

Like i defeated about 3 bosses but I’m lost now

[stark marlin]

What's the area like? What's the name?

[vernal knot]

@quasi forge Your the HK help main

[quasi forge]

hi charizard

[sour rock]

I think it was the jellyfish area?

[quasi forge]

thanks for asking how my day was

[pliant oxide]

Doesn't pop have a separative theme for itself?

[vernal knot]

Im busy okay

[ripe moth]

you're welcome

[vernal knot]

Sorry

[strong skiff]

@keen thorn is soul eater or twister catcher better

[stark marlin]

No idea but white palace theme smacks

[sour rock]

There’s a black wall

And I don’t know how to pass it

[quasi forge]

and fyi i havent spoken in help for 2 whole days

[sour rock]

Bc Cornelius is on the other side

[vernal knot]

How is your day

[hidden spire]

Bless me with your. Image perms

[quasi forge]

smh how do i know how the day is feeling

[hidden spire]

Collect my pages.

[ripe moth]

I think hit for hit twister catcher is better but if you heal use eater

[vernal knot]

Chuck istg

[hidden spire]

📄

[pliant oxide]

Yeah I do agree but soul sanctum is just that HUGE nervousness rush when you enter it after fighting the soul twister (a mini-boss fight without music)

[vernal knot]

Hello Pterodactyl, wsg

[stark marlin]

Like a black wall of shade that knocks you back?
Are you in the jellyfish area?

[keen thorn]

Alp made this

[pliant oxide]

Especially since it's early game, you aren't expecting anything crazy😭

[hidden spire]

Helloo! I'm gonna sleep soon since it's 2am and I have a class, overall nothin much wbuu

[ripe moth]

for just spells I mean idk why I said it like that

[hidden spire]

Also yes class in Saturday

[keen thorn]

Since it's spells per hit bigger number is better

[quasi forge]

u want me to use my divination mirror?

[hidden spire]

Divination

[golden barn]

this should be in hk help, but to avoid spoilers you need a later game tool for this

[hidden spire]

Lotm reference

[vernal knot]

In class rn

[stark marlin]

you know, there is a map, dueling beetles
and there is a brawler, chuck

[bold rose]

current progress on no touching the ground! ( current touches : 1 )

[keen thorn]

The difference in spells on main is negligible but it's a bit more outclassed in reserve, still negligible

[hidden spire]

I see good luck

[vernal knot]

Ty

[keen thorn]

Eater is infinitely superior for heals tho

[ripe moth]

does this mean I'm correct

[vernal knot]

And thanks @quasi forge for asking how my day was

[stark marlin]

how do you get around without touching the ground?

[keen thorn]

If you heal like, at all, eater is way better

But if you never heal most likely you're doing hitless and then eater has another big advantage: overcharm

Twister + catcher is better if you're not healing but also not using oc

[ripe moth]

yeah that is true

[bold rose]

wall jumps mostly
( also i count crystal dashing not touching the ground if i start it on a wall / room transition )

[keen thorn]

But ever so slightly

[ripe moth]

I overcharmed eater for a while

[bold rose]

also sharp shadow helps with dash lenght

[ripe moth]

hell yeah so I was right

[keen thorn]

Also don't ever let catcher + twister reach the reserve vessels

[stark marlin]

but how do you get to claw even? is it that you start with alot of completion?

[ripe moth]

I'm glad I still know something about the game

[strong skiff]

omg

im the goat

and this build is so much better

[bold rose]

i start on a full save file and am going from the birthplace to dirtmouth currently

[strong skiff]

i immidaitly cleared phase 1

[stark marlin]

tell me, if I was to overcharm while fighting ascended NKG, would I be 1 shot with 8 masks?

[ripe moth]

yes

[keen thorn]

Yeah for catcher + twister to be better you need

• Not healing
• Not overcharmed
• Not letting the reserves fill

But there's the 8 spells rather than 6 that is an unmeasurable advantage

Conclusion: better in such a small niche, otherwise no

[stark marlin]

Does it mean I'd be the exact same fight experience as Radiant?

[ripe moth]

I did overcharmed ascended before radiant

[strong skiff]

i need to hit all of those or just one for the combo to be beater than eater?

[ripe moth]

no you can heal and be on 9 masks and be a two shot

[stark marlin]

I only have 8 masks...

[ripe moth]

otherwise yes

[keen thorn]

All

Unless you REALLY care about having 8 spells

[bold rose]

twister + eater overcharm

[stark marlin]

I think if I built well, I could be 3shot with overcharm (no healing though)

[keen thorn]

Yeah this is the thing with oc that's why eater is better if you oc at all

[strong skiff]

i heal a lot,im scared about reserves filling(they are kinda filling with just cathcer) and i want more ddarks if possible

[ripe moth]

yeah but why would you do that tho

[strong skiff]

ig i still use eater

[pliant oxide]

Should I max out the bank (for geo multiply) or keep it so I can save my geo?

[stark marlin]

for no reason likely
better to just not overcharm

[strong skiff]

thanks genivo

[keen thorn]

Yeah healing is the main one
If you heal like at all eater is better

Yw

[stark marlin]

is 3rd pantheon significantly harder than the 2nd one?

[strong skiff]

lets see how plats go

[bold rose]

eater is good for overcharming because its the only good 4 notch

[ripe moth]

I'm gonna say yes since I failed 4 attempts earlier

but also yes because sly and also difficulty is subjective

[bold rose]

like 4 notches go like

• eater
• 3 defensive charms that are dogshit when overcharmed

[stark marlin]

hm... I still don't have it unlocked
does sly hit for 2 masks?
also, are there 3, 4 or 5 pantheons total?

[ripe moth]

I'm being quizzed on hollow knight help

[ripe moth]

1, 5

[strong skiff]

decent

the attacks are the same

[pliant oxide]

Pure vessel is a fraud

[strong skiff]

i just have to be carefull with the void

[pliant oxide]

Final answer

[stark marlin]

Huh??
As I am sometimes told there are 4, sometimes that there are 5
and I only see 3 doors for pantheons

[strong skiff]

what a beautiful build💀

[ripe moth]

idk probably just unlucky

only got 3 on your save

[stark marlin]

Also, is doing 4 or 5 requred for 112%?

[quasi forge]

5 panthons, sly can hit for 2 with his great slash

[bold rose]

4 yes 5 no

[quasi forge]

4 is

[quasi forge]

? 😭

p4 is closed

[stark marlin]

hm and other stuff is 1 mask? also, does he fly a lot?

[quasi forge]

its to the right

[quasi forge]

yeah and wdym by fly

[stark marlin]

like xero
fly, like in the air

[quasi forge]

no, he doesnt dly, but he kinda floats with one move

[ripe moth]

I said this then started getting quizzed on hollow knight

[hybrid holly]

i love primal aspids, I love waterways, and I love deepnest

[stark marlin]

then should be alright
as my weaverlings shouldn't have much trouble hitting him

[hidden spire]

Agree, agree probably, and don't agree

I'm neutral on waterways

[hybrid holly]

deepnest is like the least bad one there

[hidden spire]

I hate that first time deepnest

[hybrid holly]

I went there with coiled nail, all ability skills, 8 masks, 2 vessels and 11 notches I think?

[stark marlin]

stalking devout is harder to kill than THK

[hidden spire]

Also why are people are just exaggerating primal aspid it ain't that hard at all

[hybrid holly]

who the fuck is that

[hybrid holly]

yeah they're just a little annoying. I hate how slow their attacks are it trips me out cuz I'm used to fast gameplay

[stark marlin]

stalking devout is the tunnel digging machine in deepnest (enemy) and THK is final boss for normal ending

[hidden spire]

Big guys who block the path in deepnest

[hybrid holly]

ohhh

[hidden spire]

the one that deals two damage

[hybrid holly]

I just facetank it

no idea how to beat it

[hidden spire]

Same lmao

[hybrid holly]

imagine if the knight had as much hp as thk

[stark marlin]

devout has double dmg, THK no (mostly)
devout shields from hits, THK no
devout is hard to dodge, THK no

[ripe moth]

their attacks which aren't the one headed at you always exist longer than you expect

[hybrid holly]

would be terrifying

[hybrid holly]

thk is easier than soul master

[stark marlin]

hit-hit-dash away
or bait -> pogo

[stark marlin]

soul warrior > soul master > thk

[strong skiff]

ah that was such a good run

[hybrid holly]

you can't beat soul master doing random shit but you can beat thk doing random shit

[strong skiff]

im seeing the light

[ripe moth]

what do you mean you can't beat soul master doing random shit

[hybrid holly]

soul tyrant > soul warrior with spawns > soul master > thk > soul warrior

probably

[stark marlin]

there's soul warrior without spawns?
I thought soul warrior is always like lost kin but faster

[hybrid holly]

you'd get fried facetanking it

[hybrid holly]

yeah the first one doesn't spawn stuff

[stark marlin]

soul tyrant is easier than soul warrior bro

[ripe moth]

buh?????

[hybrid holly]

maybe for me cuz I played soul tyrant a lot but in general no, soul tyrant is way faster, more moves and requires better reaction time and more trickier dodges

[stark marlin]

soul tyrant is slightly buffed soul master
soul warrior with spawns is lost kin but most of the healing windows are gone, and faster

[hybrid holly]

"slightly buffed" no

soul master is a turtle in comparison

[stark marlin]

damn what's that different about him
6 orbs instead of 4 and bigger splash in phase 2? a bit faster?

[ripe moth]

soul warrior has like one projectile wdym it's basically lost kin

[stark marlin]

slams down, dashes at you, spawns ghosts
just budget lost kin, sped up

[ripe moth]

faster, taller shockwaves

[hybrid holly]

a lot faster allowing less hits, more hp, harder to dodge orbs, more punishing with the faster desolate dive, and the desolate deluge has a more tricky dodge (dash then jump instead of just dash) and is also faster, every aspect is buffed

[stark marlin]

showckwaves are negligible as you apply the same dodge regardless

[sour charm]

NEVER GIVE UP!!!!! /ref

[ripe moth]

might not have taller shockwaves

[ripe moth]

you have to jump earlier therefore react quicker

[stark marlin]

but like dam, he's not that hard
still has free healing windows, still most dodges are super easy
6 orbs may be tricky though...

[frozen storm]

Celeste is pretty fun

Doesn't feel that difficult

[ripe moth]

TRUE

[hybrid holly]

I never said hard

[frozen storm]

Does it get extremely hard later on or something

[hybrid holly]

how many chapters in?

[ripe moth]

where are you rn

[hybrid holly]

yes, what chapter are you on

[stark marlin]

I think that soul warrior with ghosts is so much more annoying in comparison

[frozen storm]

3

I just beat 1 and 2 extremely fast

[hybrid holly]

if you've noticed chpt 2 is way harder than 1 and same with 3 and 2, this trend will continue

[ripe moth]

yeah 3 is a decent difficulty spike

[frozen storm]

Chapter 2 was not that hard

[ripe moth]

2 is like similar to 1

[hybrid holly]

I said harder not hard

the chase sequence is harder than chpt 1 by a lot

[ripe moth]

and 4 is like barely if at all harder than 3 imo

[frozen storm]

I learned that you can conserve momentum by diagonal dashing on the floor

[amber rose]

i don't understand why people hate winged nosk

[frozen storm]

Do Speedruners use that?

[amber rose]

it's not that bad

[ripe moth]

oh god wavedashing already

[frozen storm]

Idk what that is but ik it's pretty fun

[ripe moth]

I realise I've played way too much celeste

[hybrid holly]

you're a fun fight, soul master is boring after we beat you

[hybrid holly]

I stopped playing after chapter 3, and then came back and kept trying to platform like how you'd do in hk and Madeline felt so fricking slow so I quit again, I need to replay from scratch to relearn

[frozen storm]

What even is wave dashing?

Is it the diagonal thing I'm doing?

[ripe moth]

I stopped playing after chapter 5 because I'm scared of the dark and then kept playing and put in 1800 hours over the next 3 years

[amber rose]

true, it's just better vengefly king which isn't saying much, but ive heard people complain about it's hitbox even tho its not that bad

[hybrid holly]

Madeline is so heavy compared to the knight

[hybrid holly]

that's crazy

[ripe moth]

all of it is true

[hybrid holly]

let me try soul tyrant rq

nail only cuz that's more fun

[stark marlin]

is it true that winged nosk is "less lying"
as he's at least pretending to be another "spider"

[bold rose]

just found a weird glitch lol

[frozen storm]

I didn't feel much difference?

[ripe moth]

soul tyrant you took me ages to beat radiant

[hybrid holly]

I never played winger nosk

[frozen storm]

I already got used to celeste

[hybrid holly]

I played hk for weeks and ditched Celeste for that time then came back so it felt much different

[stark marlin]

what's the glitch?

[ripe moth]

knight jumps like twice the height and accelerates a couple frames faster

[bold rose]

if you bounce on the mushrooms in fungal wastes with a charged nail art it makes a HECK ton of noise

[stark marlin]

I hate nosk
had him in the pantheon and he kept running away
in hindsight, should've used shade soul then for multihits

[pliant oxide]

Do I know awoken dream nail to access false champion?

[ripe moth]

just normal

[frozen storm]

Madeline felt normal

[stark marlin]

I've heard about it
and if you release the nail art, you may stand on the shrooms stably

[ripe moth]

failed champion btw

[frozen storm]

Maybe I just adapt fast or something

[bold rose]

yeah

[stark marlin]

ono no shaman stone
I used perfect build, no place for filthy shaman (partilly joking)

[frozen storm]

Not here dummy

Above

[pliant oxide]

OH FUCK WAIT

[stark marlin]

weaversong, grubsong, stalwart, quick focus, soul catcher

[ripe moth]

be nice man

[agile zephyr]

Elderbug would've likely gotten infected if given Delicate Flower.

[frozen storm]

DO NOT KILL MAGGOTS

[formal imp]

hi chat

[amber rose]

im so upset lost kin ended my first p5 run😔

[frozen storm]

It's not supposed to offend

[stark marlin]

it's perfect build
no brain, free win
best pantheon experience ever

[ripe moth]

actually the is is the person who called me stupid and an idiot when I was correct nvm

[hybrid holly]

I died, I haven't played in weeks I lost mah skill

[frozen storm]

???

[agile zephyr]

He says dreams might not be such a bad thing.

[formal imp]

what should i use for phanteons all bindings?

[frozen storm]

Died to what

[hybrid holly]

soul tyrant

[frozen storm]

Nothing?

[frozen storm]

Rusty

[hybrid holly]

true

[formal imp]

wait shit i forgot no charms

[pliant oxide]

Where the fuck are they

[frozen storm]

Lmao

[pliant oxide]

I went to the top and found nothing??

[stark marlin]

I could just run carelessly and heal after each attack
ignore the telegraphs and simply get nail hits in

[agile zephyr]

Wall.

Break left.

[pliant oxide]

WHAT FUCKING WALL THERE'S LIKE 9 BILLION

[agile zephyr]

Platform. Wall. Break.

[frozen storm]

Right side, wall is on the left

[stark marlin]

You want to fight failed champion?

[agile zephyr]

On left of right.

[pliant oxide]

Yes💔

[proven torrent]

krill issue

[warm aurora]

If not a 2nd and 3rd wave

[stark marlin]

hmm I think you need to go a fair bit up (the path you'd go to false knight but more up) and then there's a room above the original arena
for failed champion build:
hiveblood, any spawners (preferably grimmchild)

[warm aurora]

Perfect build

[stark marlin]

use perfect fc build:
hiveblood + spawners

[warm aurora]

Why hiveblood tho?

[pliant oxide]

HAHAHAHAH

I KILLED THE MAGGOTS

[frozen storm]

Oh okay

[pliant oxide]

I WANNA TASTE BLOOD🗣️🔥

[stark marlin]

to outheal falling rocks
so you can cling to the wall forever while charging cdash

[warm aurora]

...

[stark marlin]

they're required to deal damage while you are in safety

[warm aurora]

Now its hard to tell if this was a serieus build

[ripe moth]

fun fact those are a source of soul before the fight if you dreamt nail them

[frozen storm]

You can also deal damage while in safety with your nail

[warm aurora]

It looked you threw in the summons the make the cheese impossible

[ripe moth]

also they never respawn

[pliant oxide]

Already have a full soul meter lmao

[stark marlin]

but then it's less safety
top corner of the arena, clinged to the wall in cdash charge is best safety

[frozen storm]

Not for long

[ripe moth]

unless you die

[warm aurora]

Same

[frozen storm]

Safety is Safety.

[warm aurora]

Looks like an odd thing to say for a soul tyrant tho

[stark marlin]

Hmm also I guess if weaversong+grubsong can connect, it's good as it allows occasional ddark casts

[frozen storm]

There's no such thing as more safety

[warm aurora]

I would just run a semi-meta build

Strength etc

[pliant oxide]

HOLY SHIT

[stark marlin]

imagine your mum went into the room or something
and you gotta look away for 30 secs
is it still safe on the ground?

[frozen storm]

And yet PV can hit me more

[pliant oxide]

ISN'T THIS BOSS FIGHT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY?

THAT DUDE SLIMED MY SHIT OUT

[frozen storm]

With it's body

[warm aurora]

Open inventory to pause

[pliant oxide]

2 FUCKING SECONDS AND I'M OUT

[frozen storm]

Explain more

[ripe moth]

expected

[warm aurora]

That happens to everyone

Dream rematches are hard

[frozen storm]

Oh actually just pause lmao

[agile zephyr]

No.

[warm aurora]

Not a little bit

[lone bloom]

What’s harder nkg or regular radiance?

[pliant oxide]

Dude what am I gonna do on soul tyrant or lost kin💔