#hk-discussion
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When you defeat her in Greenpath you get the Mouthwing Cloak
yeah i'
make sure to talk to her in ancient basin before you go to traitor lord
that's a drop from a corpse, one that she killed
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When you defeat her in Kingdom's Edge you get the king's brand which is used to get the Shade Cloak
Thatās where you save her right
yeah yeah exactly
Traitor Lord got his head caved in, holy shit such a violent death.
she only stops trying to slime you out after this
Which is her sibling, and your sibling
Yeah
Cloth is a pretty cool character
The hornet fight is just attempted fratricide (I pray I got the word correct)
and then to beat the game you both slime out your older brother
Fratricide?
y-yea she was....
this is literally just family killing eachother
I believe itās killing someone related to you?
hornet probably knows you can respawn
When I started the game and got to the Fungal Wastes I encountered her the first time and thought she was a miner like the ones in Crystal Peak that were going to attack me
Yeah I know
cant even fight some stupid mawleks
sob waaa y does ever1 die
Ahem āFratricide refers to the act of murdering one's own brother or sisterā
Tbh mawleks are scary.
Yep I was correct
murder is murder simple
Ah.
this entire game is just fratricide
I find it funny that I know this word from a portal achievement
Steel Soul what's your completion percentage
I donāt remember us being related to the sun
O you play portal?
112%
Yes
Wait is a group of brothers a fraternity for that reason
What does frat as a root mean
yeah you can oneshot a massive mantis that deals two damage and has the added strength of the infection but you cant fight some mawleks...
Ooo is it fun im thinking of playing it
Cool
you're trying to slime tf out of your brother before that too
HAVE WE ALL FORGOTTEN THE BROKEN VESSEL?
Yeahhhhh-
holy
Hello i am bacm
Poor sucker is stuck in the ancient basin and yāall just forget about his ass.
glgl pantheons
I donāt know what it even is, Iām assuming a boss battle
The Broken Vessel is a very easy boss fight
Broken vessel is in ancient basin
correct
She can fight mantises
Technically every fan design of the ghost has a chance of being canon
Considering how many children the pale king and tree have
when can Quirrel get his own game?
I beat the Broken Vessel with the Wayward Compass without any charms and didn't use any spells, this means you can beat him too.
Hollownight: quirrelsong
*quirrel
how we still calling the knight ghost
For me broken vessel was kinda difficult.
I then tried lost kin... ( mistake )
you can do anything with compass
Lost Kin is pretty easy
Fuck nah
It's just faster
Infected balloons are hell even with Defender's Crest
Lost kin issue is thag it has a bajilion ghosts so you either have to use defender's crest kr never heal
How can I beat the game without going to deepnest?
faster = harder
impossible without major glitches
impossible, there is a dreamer there
Just use Defender's Chrest and it'll take out the balloons
No defender's crest makes it ez
no
Should be harder for one of the best abilities.
it doesn't do shit
Can I just send a postcard asking them to come over for tea
I used Sporeshroom as well
SHES SLEEPING
Made it easier
It makes the boss easy as hell
ILL SEND A DREAMPOST CARD
Defender's Crest doesn't do anything
People can have different opinions
I will be right back.
You can technically go to queen's gardens and start deeper in deepnest to do less of it
What does defenders crest even do beside make you stinky
well how you sending them the post card without entering deep nest then?
This
deal damage to enemies around you
For me it was easy with Defender's Chrest and Sporeshroom but others can find it harder than I found it
Yeah i know
Hand it over to hornet during her second fight
Defender's Crest doesn't work on Soul Warrior
LOLLL
D:
easy, here's a guide https://youtu.be/jYZrM_tfKMQ
If you use Defender's Chrest on Soul Warrior I don't know what to say
Why are we in the floor
I tried but nothing was happening
so I took it off
Duplicating people
Use Unbreakable Strength, Quickslash, and Grubsong
dont bother trying that it is a basically full of glitches speedrun
because you need to transcend collisions if you don't want to go to deepnest
The pale king already has enough children as is Iāll pass
Makes sense count me in
Maybe I should get the King Soul charm for Void Heart
I will tommorow
I'm pretty tired as of right now
I mean, there are room dupes that dont involve noclip that dupe lurien
or monomon
Those basically always involve noclip
Can u beat HK without ever entering Forgotten Crossroads?
No
No
i forgot how to exit beast den mid speedrun
godseeker mode ? 
;-;
Black Egg Temple and some bosses relevant to godhome are, unfortunately, in crossroads
Fuck
Godseeker start in godhome smh
can u beat HK without ever going into King's Pass then?
Possibly yeah
Again, godseeker
You start in king's pass...
We don't count that
for godseeker mode you need to beat the 3 pantheons in classic mode which needs of the crossroads
https://youtu.be/l27FjTEdcyM?t=1358 a fairly easy setup to dupe monomon if you want
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It's possible if you don't count the pantheon
hold on
Didn't go into King's Pass for half of the game
is it entering kings pass if you never get to see the knight in kings pass?
Can u beat HK without beating any bosses besides THK?
oh apparently there are some like-minded people with you
Anyways jokes aside once I have the lantern and 3rd nail upgrade Iāll bite the bullet and go through hell
thats like saying you havent entered the tutorial for half of the game
It's not possible
even though this isnt a pb this run feels like wayy more motivating than any 2 hit run ive gotten
time for some p2ab attempts :D
The dreamers are guarded by bosses
That you need to fight to defeat them
And without the dreamers you can't access the Black Egg from the inside
This is a detailed guide on how to beat Hollow Knight by killing only 1 boss. All footage was recorded on current patch of the game on PC.
All music used in the video is from Hollow Knight.
0:00 start
1:44 Mantis Claw
3:58 Dream Nail
6:21 Crystal Heart
8:27 Herrah
11:16 Dream Gate
15:37 Monomon
21:35 Hollow Knight
23:53 End
herrah's boss is deepnest ig
still the hardest one though
yesn't
mantis lords
They censoring really helps thanks mate /j
I made my way to Distant Village yesterday
Dupe them
mantis lords is NOT required homeboy
mantis lords are not necessary to enter deepnest
Dupe the dreamers
Iāll put a can of anti-spider spray on my desk for good luck
Oh wasn't counting glitches on that one but that works
U can enter Deepnest from Queen's Gardens or to the right of Moss Prophet room
time for thk
112 lurking in the corner:
The pale king needs to do something about the structural integrity of hallownest
Almost done.
just dupe some mask shards to get more percentage points 
pale king needs to blow up deepnest
for entering deepenst
deep nest aint that bad...
For me it is
You misspelled Queen's Gardens.
oh
Hate hate hate hate spiders
why are you even in deepnest before even getting the dive
only bad for first playthrough
Because I fell in there when talking to moss prophet
*after
looking for challenge ig
I got to Deepnest before getting vengeful spirit
Can this stop lagging?
GOD WHY THE FUCK ARE CORRUPTED MOSQUITOS SO DAMN TANKY
i got to deepnest b4
have you rested in any bench in deepnest?
I got to Deepnest a few days ago
I got to Deepnest before King's Pass.
No, I went right the hell out of there
Because I didn't know it existed
good
Ive never gotten to moss prophet before they died.
I got to Deepnest before title screen
I'm in PoP currently.
i got to deepnest before buying hollow knight
Help.
They die? :[
I discovered him alive accidentally
Hello i am back!
I probably knew about it but didn't enter because I wasn't prepared
They get Uber infected.
Oh wow
well you could say that if you pirated it
I mean they look like Theyre about to burst like a balloon but :[
Gonna be done soon.
I pirated it on my phone
true
Just this final room.
thk build š
Yeah thatās them uber infected, with the fat mosskin dead on the ground.
.
I'm about to do the Path of Pain like in a few days then the Colosseum of Fools
Mhhh. Time to do a clickbait YouTube title with āHOW TO BEAT HOLLOW KNIGHT BEFORE BUYING IT
Where are your charms
Hehe
pop easy tbh
Trial Of The Fool is effortless
don't need 'em
He cooking you.
Piracy
Nono they still have the moss on them
Maybe it is if you're good at pogoing
And talk to me
hey i have base nail, vengeful spirit, and ddark
im not THAT bad off
Any charm from the BIG 3 works for thk
Bro ur over leveled for thk
Give me 5 minutes
Good luck
EONT DO IT
Greenpath is adorable
I WONT
White palace too
Oblobbles suck
I donāt want any viruses on my computer
they r just 2 big balls
What is the minimum amount of " areas " you need if you exclude major glitches
I am thinking like dirtmouth / king's pass, crossroads, fungal wastes, city of tears, crystal peaks, fog canyon, deepnest, resting grounds
2 big balls of rng
Anyways Iām going to go bye bye
So 7
Oh wait i forgot resting grounds
Awww
Bye
Real
thks big ass dome hitting me
Dirt mouth ,forgotten , green , fungal, resting , fog , deep nest
Can i just say i don't find obblobbles difficult myself
*spacing
I canāt do it consistently
rng only matters if ur bad at the fight
greenpath
Not end
He's tall
Rng
Not needed.
You can fireball skip into fungal and get claw
They are easy just bad rng
How are you removing peaks

They aren't rng???
no reason to dash there idk why i did
The only thing dislike about obblobles is that if u have mop u can redirect
You know what I mean
getting mantis claw requires dash
Mb I forgot that one
wym?
by redirect
Not what i said
i did something similar in overworld gpz
So yeah identical
Also it dosen't
Itās going left but u hit it and it goes right into you
I see how
(I get the appeal, it's just not for me lol)
I must do ab hog soon icl
m
Eh it happens with mop?
Idk how it works itās weird pisses me off
tbh im just going for all pantheons ab (yes ik p5 is going to be hell)
I've only experienced it when I abyss shriek it (ik it's a mechanic)
Hell p4 and p3 will be worse cause ur not as good as u will be by the time ur in p5 ab
Iām wrong
But stilll
I mean radhog being under my belt is prolly going to help a ton
and also the fact that I've played other games which have much more generic skills required to be good at them
so they'll translate decently to this
For ab not enough for ab
?
hello.
Stole that from me fr.
greetings.
hi
Terrifying holy
hi.
Radhog doesnāt help with ab unless ur consistent with it
Thank you
Hi
Alright time to play Hollow Knight
what is good my fellow human.
Hi
Iām really tired Iām. Despawnjnf
it was fineeee
wsp
I don't know what to do to be honest
Plasmified a theif.
Hello there.
Hello.
@fresh isle

I didn't beat the Guardian
hi serdna
Got like 97% of these
Why are they numbered that way tho?
I am
Grubberflyās elegy fuck that.
that's why it helps
any tips for the radiance phase 2?
Stupid charm.
Ordered in the way they appear?
The climb?
yeah
not the climb
Itās a platforming challenge bro.
I hate minions that I can't oneshot
You normally get the compass before the flies
Or am I stupid?
Go on the bottom left
the platforms
For true ending you need literally all of them lmao.
Unless shade cloak somehow works without dash
still that's a pretty nice pb
Stay in 4 middle platforms dddark for safety
dude ik how to fight flukemarm ._.
thanks
So basically just go on the bottom left and use Abyss Shirek
yes ik how to use flukemarm man
Good for you
Pogo on top
Thought you were a beginner
shouldn't that be the assumption if I've done radhog ;-;
Ohhhh that phase
are there radhog ppl who don't know how to do flukemarm that im not aware of
I sped through that one I thought radiance only had two phases.
tried that strat, isn't rly my thing tbh
Yeh me yesterday also itās flukenest
Fair
Cyclone slash is funnier
lol I love cslash
How to identify second phase of radiance?
very fun nart
What is the hidden stag station?
iām not ready for steel soul speedrun achievements
She stays in the middle
Platforms.
In ancient basin
No.
???
Do I have dementia or something?
phase 2 inf raining swords or ground spikes
do one at a time?
Maybe
Phase 2 is when she is in the middle and nails from the top
Phase 3 is platforms
Ground spikes, oki, I have reached those
Ohhhhh
On both sides, not 1 side at once
im good hru
Pffft, I completely forgot that was a phase.
Isnāt plats 4
Dang it
im good! puzzling with magellanic rn
Phase 4 is the climb i think?
Inf rain swords means u close to plats
No thatās 5
Why does everyone hate zote? Besides the fact heās full of himself.
That is exactly why
The fuck
What is 4
glgl
Gpz is an ass fight and annoying in pantheons
Ok so it gets worse th further I get through the game I assume then.
awesome
Yes. And try finding grey prince zote
Start
Ground spikes
Endless rain swords
Platforms
Climb
Inf orbs or end fight depends on the version of radiance
What
Isnt that the statue in the simps basement
Yup, dream nail it
Spikes out on ground
Donāt have a dream nail.
Yes
Isn't that from the start
Noooo
Find the dreamers
What.
Did you fr did colo 1 before dream nail?
No clue who they are.
Huh.
have you fully explored crystal peaks or gone to deepnest?
I don't have a map on hand, can someone else point them in the right direction?
I fell into deepest once.
Soul Tyrant is hard
well you'll have to do one of the two to progress further in the game
soo
Disliked the silverfish and walked away
Just for that, imma try to radiant tyrant
You need to enter resting grounds, and there are 4 main ways to do so.
|| 1. Tram
2. Crystal peaks fall
3. Elevator from city
4. Blue lake ||
Lantern is expensive. Iāll get desolate dive instead.
It is⦠my favorite character in fiction⦠dark cacao
You need lantern for deepnest
Kinda need the lantern
Gl
The lantern makes you see more of deepnest. Just git gud and memorize the platforms.
First phase as is is really easy, and phase two is just a faster master phase 2
What do I do about phase 2 orbs?
I say as I struggle to do the most basic mantis claw platforming.
the speed isnāt the issue i just suck at the game
Mostly just jumping or moving to the left or right
Tram pass is in ancient basin if Iām correct.
Wrong
Dark cacao with a bow is so cute
Its in deepnest
Yeah.
You got it?
Sadly no.
Basin, kingdoms edge, access gained through going in deepnest and getting the pass if I recall
Oh.
Well there are 2 working trams btw
lifeseed reaches the end of the room thinking heās escaped when to his horror he finds that he canāt load the next zone and as knight approaches he thinks of what good he could have done in a better world
Ill just explore further and eventually Iāll find my way to resting grounds.
One is in forgotten crossroads right?
Thereās a tramway slot there.
yep that one can lead you to what you need
Oh yeah, city, crossroads and resting grounds
Yeah. It goes to resting grounds
but in order to use the trams you have to explore deepnest
Wdym city
city of tears
Why are the most useful items in hell.
Ik but thats just wrong
I was thinking of the elevator when I said city
wdym?
No tram in city
true honestly lol
Iām done with the silverfish by even thinking about them.
it rly doesn't make a whole lot of sense
prolly done for prioritizing game balancing over realism
Tram 2 goes between deepnest, basin, and kingdom's edge
This is a game about magic bugs what do you mean realism.
Deepnest is evil and should be removed from existence.
being as realistic as possible while operating on the assumption that this world has magical bugs
Who needs realism, you are a spirit with a shell fighting gods and then getting shredded by your local bee
I can name one place thatās worse. But it aināt hallownest.
avg obblobbles fight:
for example, in any city regardless of the world, you'd expect there to be some sort of public transportation
hence the trams and lifts existing
I hate those
YES I BEAT P4
they start cornering me
Fuck those oversized parade floats.
even in a world of magical bugs
The only things that beat the primal aspid
We still need trams.
?
The second thing worse than primal aspids.
context?
This. This is the context.
primal aspids aren't even that bad
why are you pinging me at ONE IN THE MORNING
What's the worst?
Even with magic, bugs canāt get around paying fees to use public transport and toll gates.
ohh
at least you can 1hit
with strength
Why not?
yea that is indeed correct
Oblobbles.
There was an elevator from city to basin ( that 1 vertical area ) so that connected the tram with city
frick you mean
why do you think geo exists
why do you think they had a whole society full of jobs
there was even a lower and upper class
We just went over that they are the second, @outer field, what IS the worst
Why can the pure vessel teleport
because he's magical
Skill
pale and void and all that fun stuff
I meant that even with magic they still have to pay fees to use basic transport and to walk between areas.
oh yea
ofc they do lol
bc that's how human bias works
Like you have magic walking a couple human centimeters canāt be that hard.
we see fees and walking in our world so often that we've interanalized it
therefore, we'll put it in the things we create, in this case the "things we create" being Hollow Knight
no society is perfect
technically there's enough food on Earth for every person to eat
world hunger still exists
Technically money doesnāt have to exist yet it still does.
indeed
societal constructs are created to help society become more efficient
money is one such construct
Technically we could all live happily as unga bunga cavemen and live as pacifists by farming.
Isn't trade in nature entirely?
yeah but greed is a part of many peoples' natures so that's a utopia not a reality
Yes but does nature give money for the trade.
Not on the scale of humans, but i believe it still exists
yes, but currency doesn't exist in nature
Money is just another form of trade, made by humans to make trade more efficient
currency is something that humans have created for themselves to create equity
This all leads to one common denominator, human mind is flawed. God should wipe us out and try again because clearly we made some wrong choices.
why should something be wiped out just because it's flawed
Mmmhh. Good point.
that doesn't make sense
my belief is that because of the fact that humans have potential to become better, we shouldn't be wiped out
Ok this is a little bit extreme. Yes.
yeap
lets go i beat nkg
ggs :D
We should maybe just. Try to live in peace. Some people wonāt agree.
Amazing.
and this is why government exists
That's awesome!!
ofc it has its flaws as well though
Humanity isn't made by nature, it is created by it, what made humanity was efficiency and necessity
since it's another human construct
Most of the time they end up starting conflict.
and human constructs usually lose their way at some point and become corrupt
ya boy is back whats up
damn
however, as far as I've seen Finland is an amazing model of a rather good government
you have been far
Oh yes it seems to be doing quite nifty.
indeed
America on the other hand.
so I feel like at some point, assuming that finland isn't conquered, countries will start to realize what their doing wrong
and that'll start a chain reaction
that's kinda just a really speculatory hope though
haha
haha
I hate our government
so much
as a whole
republican and democratic has no meaning to me at this point ;-;
You made a mistake here, you see you assumed the goverment is actually smart in some countries.
really dont know what ur talking about but idc so we good
no, I didn't
I said that I hope they will become smart
And it still isn't a perfect government, but perfection isn't an efficient thing, and therefore not perfect, I always hear "in a perfect world-" and I just want to say that in a perfect world, perfection isn't a thing, and therefore not perfect
indeed
Sadly I think some are a bit too stubborn.
perfect government has inefficiencies which exist as features
indeed, which is why it's a rather small hope that I harbor XD
There is no such thing as an upgrade without sacrifice, something always gets sacrificed
you guys are talking about goverment in the hk discussion
Currently my biggest concern for the world as a whole is americas goverment.
thought ofc as you said, perfection is something that doesn't exist
?
same as the concept of infinity
And of course the ongoing wars.
I disagree
damn i thought i was good i died in 20 seconds
I think the only reason that is a constant in today's world is because people aren't willing to compromise for each other most of the time
you can do it again
This started from me questioning why magic bugs need to pay toll.
agreed
yep that's discord for ya lol
indeed we are :D
hk discussion always tends to go off topic XD
most discussions do...
truu
ADIIINO
HEGALLEEE
Gayacaron
Perfection is something that seems like it can come close
hoi Izu :D
dont you belong in sk
Zote
But is always- holy crap hornet from hollowknight:silksong
bro's speaking chronologically
Well compromise requires sacrifice, even if it is kept at a minimum
yep
so ig you would be right about that then
I missed a lot but Iām lazy so Iām not going back to read it.
strangeness
It is always just a whim away, there is always something to be improved apon.
yup that's how infinity works
Wether it be oneself or actions they perform.
perfection is an infinity I'm pretty sure actually
Here I am, having a remotely intellectual conversation when I know my ass ain't built for it.
nah ur a lot better than the majority of ppl I've spoken with
If perfection is Infinite
I never said that
btw @near geyser why do you always change avatar?
Can I ask for some tips?
as far as im aware
Because I have too many favorites.
the definition of an infinity is something that can never be reached
lol
Oh please it is 10 pm and I feel like Iām stealing someoneās wisdom from god knows where and sayingjt here
yea infinity and the word "infinitely" are two very very misunderstood things
GIT GUD!!
no because this hornet said āadinoā, which silksong hornet doesnt say
infinitely tends to mean something unbounded, which stems from math
Nor Shaw
and infinity is something that cannot be touched or reached
details
Hornet stopped using slurs thankfully
yea
PLEASE IM TRYING DONT MAKE ME GO BACK TO THE BENCH
Hornet was saying slurs
(plz correct me if im wrong I only learned abt this during my current year of schooling, so there might be a higher definition I don't know of that's more commonly used)
In hollow knight
hornet is hornet and sk is sk. hornet in hk has been deafeted so she belongs in sk
Calling your sibling slurs. Truly a sister brother relationship.
i found this absolute gem of an image the other day, persona AND hk is so tuff
Lmao.
lmao
Stupid autocorrect.
Lamps.
Not the worst thing she did to their siblings
Lmao turns into lamps.
i hate when people assume that just because the knight defeats her in hk hornet is weaker than the knight, they clearly havent heard of maturing and growing up
The corpse in the corner of her first fight:
She's done that a lot of times
bc I am literally so fast that I can correct things at a speed where it doesn't even interrupt my thought process
That vessel had one of the greatest skill issues of all time.
Hornet is weaker than TK in HK
She lost twice
you die to throwing bomb guy in deep docks u are weak
no thats in hk
Yeah, in Hk
powerscaling aint my thing, ill let the other do that
Oh silksong. Don't talk silksong here
At all
To be fair that child did beat up the sun.
yea ik
Well if we were playing as hornet, hornet would prolly beat TK in both games
Silksong is BANNED here
||Skong is dead here||
They beat up a higher being aurafarming as something that looked like the sun
people have theorized that the fact she takes double damage means she's not as strong as tk, what yall think about that
Pretty stupid
IT'S BEEN DONE
bapanada...
What? Wdym silksong? It isnāt out yet
Silksong hasnāt come out yet what are you all talking about
Aura Farmer. Radiance is being ||sigma||
||I would like to submit my resignation and jump off a cliff now||
Why does the pure vessel want to kill little ghost
you are iselda dressed as hornet

Now we need hornet dressed as iselda
Because itās a test from your sibling
why no gpz š¤
Pure Vessel because It was brought back from a memory to fight
Not really
who's that I have no idea what you're talking about
i like how in saying silksong is bad youve said silksong more than you actually said hollow knight
It was all part of the process so that Godseekers had a way to get Radiance out from THK
āOh hey my sibling, better KILL THEMā /j
The fight PV fights us is basically their masterplan
Godseeker trying to free radiance because she heard the moth is a goddess of death.
So the fight actually happens in the Godseeker's mind
havent u saved Zote?
Godhome is in godseekers mind, did you not know this 
What
that guy died, he should stay dead
What did I even read
lol
Radiance is the Forgotten God of Light or sum'
Zote is the best character
huh
The aftermath of a night of drinking.
i need to look into the lore for godhome man
Use their head as a football.
I did the eternal ordeal though
alr ima hop off cya guys
It's not that deep
i know, just curious
The Godseekers are bugs that like to attune to gods, attracted to PK's residual light and arrived in Hallownest
which is the only reference to this character in the game
They hibernated in a coccoon in junkpit until TK Freed them
can you imagine if they made him into a really annoying boss fight
hot take: soul tyrant is ez
luckily they didn't do that
They tried to attune to each present higher being, were denied/unable to, and thus turned to The Radiance
T R U E
if all the higher beings fought who do yall think would win
hot take: markoth is piss ez
Which is why Pantheons are a thing, to strengthen Godseeker's attunement powers and get Radiance out of THK's mind
The abyss creature in the lifeblood heart area.
Void Given Focus sweeps
the knight lmao
am i the only one who cant forget the godhome title for nosk?
True the only thing needed is patience
ā
If you include The Masters then maybe that's another story
shade lord?
Void Given Focus yeah
This kind of depends on what the context is. Inifinity is a concept, and it doesnt have 1 strict definition. Generally means something endless, boundless, etc
I wouldn't define it as something that cannot be touched personally
ohh gotcha
true, its the second phase that gets me on radiant the dives are just so fast
...when soul tyrant teleports to one side of the map, how will ik if hes gonna run or spawn an orb?
constant dashing from side to side always works
Just Double Jump either way
he teleports closer to the edge if he's running
wait in that case is there an infinity in a context that im not aware of that is something you can touch?
because that'd be super super interesting
and I think he'd be lower down
i remember i had a glitch where i couldent jump a second after dash so it made the down attack in phase one hell
your still talking about infinite?
well I mean someone replied and I felt inclined to ask a question abt their response
ok
hello guys
hoii :D
Hi
Hi.
yo
wait a min so i cant talk about sk here and you can talk about goverment
It's banned
it's a lil bit of a double standard ye lol
sometimes sk is actually talked abt here, just depends on if the ppl currently in the chat are okay with it or not
ik its banned but bro was talking about the goverment
the rules are enforced in a rather inequitable way tbh
u cant talk about silksong here cuz spoilers
but government is ig fine?
fair
isnt your name from sk only
shouldn't government be in the off topic chat
Well, its just that there are a lot of things that you cant touch that have little to do with infinity
Like... I wouldn't say that a thought is infinity, but I cant touch a thought
In math, there is this concept called ordinals
Which are ways to "count past infinity" in a way (this is quite over simplifying).
ohhh
Why does grimm scream if u attack him
so ur saying more so that inability to touch something can refer to many more things than just infinity
therefore making it a rather crude definition to use for infinity
its fine
rude

and fair for the oversimplification lol
ur being disrespectful
Oh
Oh
zote???

soul tyrant first phase goes so long
is there a way to speed it up?
im doing radiant btw
true you can barely hit him
i can easily get 2 hits off when he does his clock thing
and 2 hits when he dashes
and i can abyss shriek when he staggers
High damage for one attack ig
but what else can i do?
Working on radiant grimm, wish me luck
out of curiosity python, so im doing my first year of calculus currently (ik derivatives, working on the meaning of the second derivative currently, and ik abt limits and L'hopital's rule
So I was wondering, would you say it'd be possible for me to understand ordinals with my current understanding of math?
i recomend after clock attack ends jump and give him a sweet shade soul
i was thinking that...
or rather, to what degree do you think I'd be able to learn about them rn
can shade soul double hit soul tyrant during clock?
maybe on a scale of 1-10 or smth
Clock?
only when he moving
that one spinning attack from soul tyrant
how do yall get consistent with absrad
practice practice practice
Yāall call it a clock?
also watch tutorials and radiant fights
if that doesn't work, try taking notes on them
why not?
in one run i get to phase two in second one i die in 20 seconds
kinda is
Revolutionary.
-# get it?
summarize, don't write down every lil thing you need to do
write down the big things that you need to work on
nah
lemme watch radiant soul tyrant video and see what some people do to speed it up
i dont get it
soul tyrant is annoying cuz he teleports SO FUCKING MUCH
Good afternoon people
Because a revolution is the same thing as a full 360 degree rotation.
Hi
tbh that's why I love him
the chase is so fun
Itās not just the āFrench revolutionā
I just mindlessly chase him
but like plz don't explain the joke it makes it less funny D:
him only saying HMM is funny too
Thatās the one auto mechanical thing I know.
lol true
HMMMM
as a guy who studies greek math i guess i couldent know that
real
greek math?
why do people keep asking about this guy? there's no way he has a fight I deliberately didn't unlock
the greeks had an entirely different form of math?
HMM fires orbs
MMM orbiting orbs
HM dashes
what the heck that's so fricking cool
yk in greek language
no I mean
y'all keep trying to gaslight me into thinking he exists
Ordinals is more about set theory
I think you could get the gist of it, but actual math I personally found fairly confusing myself
Ordinals are numbers that count order (like first, second, third) in essence. So you can list all natural numbers like ordinals, and then say "I want the one after", and thats how you get the smallest orinal. These were "invented" when trying to index more than a finite number of sets
The technical definition of an ordinal number omega, is the smallest number greater than all natural numbers
And then you can go omega+1 is the smallest number greater than omega and so on and so forth
What about the ground pound?
Zote zote zotd
0/10 no zote
they had different symbols and a different base? (like non-base 10 number system)
he doesš its called grey prince zote
since when did python do maths...
i bet you let him die
math is math i just study with greek language and not english because i live in greece
soul tyrant thinks so fucking much out loud
we are not aliens
I literally study math?
the guy who died to the vengefly king? no way
woahhh
that's so cool
team cherry wouldn't do this
so it kinda relates to the um
Lmao. Of course he does heās wondering if he was the one thinking it or if it was the radiance making him think soul=immortality
yep he has a whole ass boss fight marked as an top hardest
recursive something
there's a formula that you use to define a pattern based on the previous numbers of said pattern
blanking so hard rn
how convenient that he seems to not exist, then
u didnt save him
/s
i see what you did there
Why do so many damn people here have ā112%, GPZ + NKGā I donāt get it?
fav boss fight
(I'm being sarcastic of course I didn't save him)
same
Why yāall gotta put that stuff in your username and not your bio I will never understand.
actually so darned well-made and has such a nice amount of difficulty
ong
absolute zote was also amazing to fight (modded boss)
-# btw where is the gif where soul master teleports frantically around the arena and godseeker is tryna keep up with him
Oof i finally have all charms
no idea
i dont
I want that.
A recursive definition (of a function usually)
And yeah, sort of. I am, by no means an expert on ordinals, but thats the very general idea
prolly to save ppl assuming they don't know how to play
bio is universal, username is server specific
Now time to get the final mask
kinda like a couple ppl did to me earlier XD
I just don't do that bc it feels kinda like constantly wearing a medal and I don't like the vibe that it gives (that's for me personally btw, other ppl don't necessarily give that vibe when doing it)
so I'd rather just clear up any misunderstandings verbally
kinda up to personal preference tbh
Sorry I want to correct myself. To enumerate infinite sets, not inifinite number of sets
I HATE THAT STUPID DELICATE FLOWER
I canāt cheese it with dream gate.
something i didnt know:
-# u can get good damage off soul tyrant if he does his clock going right-left by abyss shrieking him when hes on the far left
this is news
go to divine she might make it unb 
oh wait I never knew patterns in math are called sets
just looked that up
that's so good to know
I love learning new words to express my thoughts with
Are you thinking of sequences?
maybe?
probably?
the ones that you do in algebra 2 that are categorized as arithmetic or geometric
that you can also express in recursive form if you'd like
wdym algebra 2?
Thats probably closer to sequences yeah
the class
um
idk how well-known the concept of "algebra 2" is since other countries prolly have different names and standards for math
ah I see
so what's a set then?
(definitely not manipulating u into giving me a math lesson)
i dont want a damm algebra sequel
I do :D
A set is just a collection of objects
Like {1, 2, 3}, or {} (an empty set). But two sets are equal if every element in one set is also in another, and vice versa, not caring about duplicates or order
So {1,2,3} and {2,1,3} are the same set
And {1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3} and {1,2,3} are the same set
ohh
so it's that one thing that you use a ton for intro to stats but never really define until later on
bro feel like learning math at midnight
2pm for me rn
timezones exist XD
and then going back to the math, I think it's fairly safe to assume that ordinal functions are a thing right?
is that the timezone for USA?
and also that they're incredibly weird
Sequences are ways to assign a set of (usually) natural numbers to something else (So its a function from Natural number to Something)
So for example, a fibbonaci sequence Fn (n here would be a natural number)
F1 = 1
F2 = 1
F3 = 2
F4 = 3
F5 = 5
F6 = 8
...
So you can think of it as a function F that takes an input 1 and spits out 1, takes an input 2 and spits out 1, and takes an input x >= 3 and spits out F(x-1)+F(x-2)
and just to be clear, F1, F2 and the others of those are considered ordinal numbers right?
is it possible to abyss shriek soul tyrant during his clock attack?
bc I like math and python knows math :D
so I wanna learn
the only thing i understand from this is ubsolutly nothing but i dont have to understand
kinda
very suboptimal I think though
Difficult
or at the very least very risky
prob not
Why would you even want that though you can easily dish out more damage by just pogoing
pogoing? soul tyrant?
the dash attack?
if those two words are in the same sentence you're either insanely good at the game or doing something really really wrong
Ordinals would be used if I wanted to go "beyond infinity" sort of. These natural numbers are used as ordinals tho, yeah
Let me write it a bit more nicely so you can see
we were talking abt the clock atk tho
I'm guessing by go "beyond infinity" you mean more so to go to a larger infinity right?
I always pogoed during his dash phase šš
what the hell broski
no shit we all do
i died didnt i
yea I honestly forgot abt the dash thing when I said that lol
?
react to my message if you think this channel should be cauld "math with python"
Yeah, cause natural numbers are, all things considered, fairly small
So if you want to say, enumerate all real numbers, you will have to use ordinals
did i win or no
imagine pogoing soul tyrant when hes doing his clock thing
idk, did you get an achievement?
I think you should've found out by now
well its practice not an actual pantheon
is the emblem on the statue there now?
for attuned I mean
or whatever ur doing
oh yeah it is there
even further beyond
should i hit soul tyrant during his dive?
NO
https://youtu.be/3lfzwXmeClk?si=cUEUzyClihQPRHel
the ending of this video happened to me on my 5th absrad choke
Ty for watching!
Uhhhh, idk what else to say haha!
#hollowknight #hollowknightvideos #hollowknightboss #silksong #silksongboss
If YOU want to die then go for it
and bc of it, I had to do 20 more attempts of p5 to get my win
gotta be one of the most disheartening things I've ever had happen to me in gaming
hey i forgot about you@thin wyvern you were the guy who wanted to ban me because i said zote sucks
now whenever I talk abt absrad or think abt absrad my heart rate goes up a lil bit
lol
i cant even beat ascended
real
ABSOLUTE RADIANCE
radabsrad felt completely impossible for a good deal of the time I spent practicing it
but for some reason I kept going, and that's why I have radhog now
radabsrad is fun asf
Brutally difficult yea but its also really fun. I love radiance
felt like I was gonna explode on my winning attempt
i die at ascended abs rad
as soon as soul tyrant moved to second phase he flattened me instantly
tbh if I were to try radabsrad rn I think it would take me at least 50 attempts to get it again