hk-discussion

[rich stone]

I don't think RadHoG is that insane

[graceful storm]

NKG fight > Carefree Melody

[red jungle]

carefree melody is the only charm in the game i actually hate

[bold rose]

placebo charm'

[red jungle]

grimmchild > carefree melody

[bold rose]

godhome exists

[red jungle]

grimmchild is one of my favourite charms

hes cute

[graceful storm]

Carefree Melody is a fucking rng bullshit charm

[rustic sleet]

No it is,you got RabAbsrad,RadGPZ,RadMarkoth there buddy

[bold rose]

rng vs always misses

[red jungle]

why the fuck would i get rid of one of my favourites

[bold rose]

whats better

[dull lion]

Like the magnetite dice but no one hates it

[red jungle]

for the piece of dogshit known as carefree melody

[worn hamlet]

why's rng bullshit

[graceful storm]

Don't mention those here btw

[bold rose]

melody is peak

[dull lion]

No

[worn hamlet]

when u use melody ur not supposed to bank on it obviously

[rich stone]

To do P3AB you have to do AB GPZ which is harder then RadGPZ consistently

[red jungle]

it always hit shit when i was in the hive trying to kill that fire dude

[worn hamlet]

if you do that I think it's bs

[bold rose]

i fell like it should have its rng removed yes 100%

[graceful storm]

no really u can't mention Silksong stuff here

[red jungle]

carefree melody is just ass and unfun

[worn hamlet]

but using melody for the benefit of the fact that the 1/10 chance is really likely to happen at some point

giving u an extra mask

I think that's pretty good and cool

[bold rose]

definitely less ass than grimmchild

[red jungle]

why would you take damage to not take damage

[red jungle]

id argue grimchild is better than carefree

[bold rose]

melody actually works differently

[dull lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1344768779112153139/1466505842634391635/togif.gif

[graceful storm]

Wdym always hit shit?

[worn hamlet]

because not everyone can radiant everything

[red jungle]

at least he provides consistent value

[worn hamlet]

not everyone can do r5 ;-;

[graceful storm]

Carefree Melody doesn't hit anything

[worn hamlet]

oh?

please explain, I never knew that

[rustic sleet]

P4AB isn't even that bad, AB PV easier than RadPV,and pretty much most AB bosses are easier than their radiant counterparts,though AB GPZ is very annoying

[near geyser]

Grimmchild at least keeps you company, and his aim is good sometimes.

[mossy needle]

whats r5-

[red jungle]

have you done the grim quest yet

[fresh isle]

carefree starts at a 0% block chance and it goes up by 10% every time it misses

[graceful storm]

yes

[worn hamlet]

ohh very interesting

[bold rose]

each time you get hit you get around 10% more chance to get invincible next hit

[graceful storm]

so u HAVE to get hit?

[red jungle]

you know exactly what i mean when you walk to fight the fire dudes

[near geyser]

I say sometimes because his aim is ass most of the time.

[vivid creek]

Plus you need to be at least somewhat consistent in beating the bosses AB
Radhog you can legit just win by grinding out a lucky attempt

[worn hamlet]

then yeah that's a really decent charm

[runic shuttle]

yeah

[fresh isle]

which results in like a 22.5% chance on average

[red jungle]

especially in hive

[dull lion]

Everyone gets hit on a boss fight

[worn hamlet]

prolly would be A if qslash/sbody combo didn't exist ._.

[graceful storm]

Carefree Melody is ass on radiant?

[red jungle]

i put on hiveblood specifically to not make the enemies aggro

and then grimmchild proceeded to make everyone aggro

[worn hamlet]

man I hate the qslash+sbody combo bc it just warps the entire meta around it

[near geyser]

Yeah lmao.

[worn hamlet]

genuinely

[worn hamlet]

well yeah it doesn't activate

[fresh isle]

i mean yea you have to get hit foe it to work anyways
and the chance persists through deaths and transitions

[graceful storm]

Ik

[near geyser]

Well I mean, steady body is useless on radiant.

[bold rose]

and if you get hit it resets the amount so optimally its 50% block, on average its 22.45% block, and it maxes out at 90.9% so its possible to never activate melody

[vivid creek]

I mean, manual cfm reset for radiant is a thing
But like, why

[near geyser]

Oh wait no not steady body.

[bold rose]

( still better than glowing womb )

[worn hamlet]

sbody's use is allowing you to control your movement better

which would allow you to dodge better

[near geyser]

I meant the one that increases your invincibility frames

[worn hamlet]

which is extremely useful for radiant

[worn hamlet]

oh stalwart shell

[near geyser]

Yes

[bold rose]

or just higher dps in the terms of " i can actually hit the boss "

[near geyser]

I got them confused.

[vivid creek]

stalwart shell

[worn hamlet]

tbh I've never rly used stalwart shell so idk what the ups/downs of it are

[graceful storm]

Quick Slash+Heavy Blow+steady body is the best combo

[fresh isle]

theres actually a mod made for modded bosses to reset carefree to 90% block chance when u die

[near geyser]

Stalwart shell is meh.

[worn hamlet]

other than the fact that you get more iframes

[runic shuttle]

theres a mod for everything eloki

[worn hamlet]

huh very interesting

[near geyser]

They just worded it so damn strangely that I couldn’t understand what it did.

[worn hamlet]

oh fair lol

[rustic sleet]

If we compare P1-4 with bindings,how hard they are compared to P5

[graceful storm]

There's a mod to fix shit Team Cherry never did 😭

[vivid creek]

It also effect iframes from things like baldur & cfm

[fresh isle]

stalwart is my underrated survivability charm though

[rich stone]

Even P2AB is harder than P5

[worn hamlet]

makes sense

[graceful storm]

Useless on radiant

[worn hamlet]

any iframes that you get from being hit or having smth that you produce being hit

[runic shuttle]

kingsoul deepfocus and grimmchild is my go to build

[worn hamlet]

that's what I'd assume stalwart shell affects

[fresh isle]

not everythings about radiant,

[near geyser]

That’s the one I was talking about, not steady body.

[graceful storm]

Grubsong is only good on radiant if paired with Weaversong

[near geyser]

True.

[worn hamlet]

based take

[runic shuttle]

id never use either of those 2 charms on radiant

[rustic sleet]

No fucking way bruh P2AB is harder than P5

[near geyser]

I don’t understand charm combos.

[worn hamlet]

real lol

[runic shuttle]

except if im doing lost kin cheese 🤔🤔🤔

[red jungle]

weaversong + grubsong is op

[bold rose]

weaversong with grubsong gives 3 soul per spider hit

[worn hamlet]

tbh I just know the meta, idrk much else

[bold rose]

also that reminds me

[worn hamlet]

like how other charms that aren't on the meta pair with each other and combine to make decent builds

[near geyser]

Huh that’s actually pretty good.

[rustic sleet]

Isn't the only even a bit difficult part of P2 like Sheo and also maybe Oblobbles?

[rich stone]

Obolobbles and Marmu in AB are crazy also by AB I mean all binding at once

[bold rose]

i need to test weaversong dps ( and soul per second )

[near geyser]

So I could torture sly with a bunch of spiders?

[worn hamlet]

yep

[rich stone]

Sheo is not hard

[near geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-8691405304708562462

[worn hamlet]

easier than oro&mato imo

[wild sierra]

It’s u!! :D

[vivid creek]

Marmu, blobbles & nosk are harder ab than sheo is

[near geyser]

Much easier

[worn hamlet]

indeed

[graceful storm]

charms u should never use on radiant: Grubsong(unless paired with Weaversong), Stalwart Shell, Quick Focus, Spore Shroom, Deep Focus, Thorns Of Agony, Carefree Melody, Hiveblood, Fury Of The Fallen, Lifeblood Core, Lifeblood Heart, Joni's Blessing, Gathering Swarm, Wayward Compass, Fragile/Unbreakable Heart, Fragile/Unbreakable Strength

[near geyser]

Oro&Mato pissed me the hell off for the better part of the two days I got stuck on them.

[graceful storm]

I beat nosk on radiant so easily

[rich stone]

Marmu is so inconsistent in AB

[vivid creek]

ab = all bindings

[fresh isle]

no one is using these on radiant

[rich stone]

Isin't nosk still chesseable

[graceful storm]

...oh I missed that

[near geyser]

Grimmchild is an applicable charm on radiant apparently.

[tacit willow]

Idk why but I beat pantheon of Hallownest again

[worn hamlet]

that's their point lol

[vivid creek]

I mean, kinda
But sheo is basically free

[graceful storm]

sometimes if u want

[tacit willow]

Dat shi was kinda hard

[near geyser]

I just like the company honestly.

[graceful storm]

Any charm I didn't list is free for u to use

[left sparrow]

ermmmmmmmm

i use deep focus on radiant!

[fresh isle]

besides cfm ig

[rustic sleet]

RAB bosses are insane,RAB PV is like 5 minutes of radiant PV lmao,no charms,spells don't do much

[fresh isle]

oh mb

[vivid creek]

Yea
I really like shade dash through & greatslash for ab marmu

[left sparrow]

thank you for recognising me 😇

[vivid creek]

• safety ddarks

[fresh isle]

spells do quite a lot

[rustic sleet]

I have beaten both AB PV and RadPV,but I am not even close to beating RAB PV

[left sparrow]

isnt like all your damage in r5ab spells LMAO

[agile zephyr]

Gotta kill Traitor Lord.

[left sparrow]

the nail does fucking jackshit

[vivid creek]

• narts

[fresh isle]

u can ddark pv during the focus attack and void tendrils
shriek during the sword pillars

[worn hamlet]

u prolly haven't upgraded it

[graceful storm]

Minion charms are ass against bosses

[worn hamlet]

or u don't have both steady body and quickslash

[graceful storm]

They cause the boss to recover from stagger too early

[near geyser]

End him, end him immediately.

[agile zephyr]

Gonna.

[near geyser]

Grimmchild?

[graceful storm]

Execute him

[agile zephyr]

Saved Cloth too.

[graceful storm]

And Weaversong

[rustic sleet]

RAB bosses just take too long

[worn hamlet]

that's the bad ending tho ._.

now she's depressed D:

[graceful storm]

No

[vivid creek]

Wait till you hear about r04 or irab

[near geyser]

Cloth kinda gets a good ending both ways.

[agile zephyr]

No.

[worn hamlet]

I think being depressed for the rest of ur life is worse than death

[agile zephyr]

She's happy.

[worn hamlet]

or am I wrong

she gets happy?

[rustic sleet]

Has anyone tried RAB HOG lmao

[fresh isle]

narts for pv are kinda cool i never really did them though

[graceful storm]

Cloth dying is good ending

[vivid creek]

Many people

[agile zephyr]

Saving her causes her to die.

[fresh isle]

yea

[quartz cave]

@fresh isle @vivid creek @graceful storm @worn hamlet

hi gng hyd

[fresh isle]

hi baldbald

[graceful storm]

Hi ping all of us

[worn hamlet]

wym?

[cold shuttle]

Is it just me or parrying in HK is really broken
I can parry in SS but cannot here

[vivid creek]

Hello Oswaldio

[rustic sleet]

Radiant all bindings?

[vivid creek]

Ye

[quartz cave]

WHAT

hates me,,,,

[rustic sleet]

Though you need a mod,but still

[graceful storm]

She dies if she assists u

[bold rose]

i just checked myself with mawlek:
weaversong did around 4.7dps

[worn hamlet]

ye

[graceful storm]

And that's the good ending

[worn hamlet]

ye

[vivid creek]

Individual RAB bosses aren't that crazy in the overall scope of hk challenges

[fresh isle]

it works differently in hk
you cant parry projectiles and parrying swings is less consistent

[worn hamlet]

pretty sure saving someone implies saving their life most of the time

not saving them from a life of misery

[graceful storm]

When they said they saved cloth, they prob mean Ancient Basin

[bold rose]

against mawlek on ascended so straight ground and the only issue is mawlek jumping

[fresh isle]

parries are basically just like never the optimal way to save yourself from a bad situation in hk

[graceful storm]

saving cloth in Ancient Basin gets her to appear at Traitor Lord

[worn hamlet]

:o

one of my pokemon got pokerus and I only have 5 of them in the playthrough rn

that's kinda wild

I wonder what the odds of that are

[graceful storm]

I think the reason the knight can't parry is cuz of its nail

[rustic sleet]

@vivid creek Are you a very great player or is just your difficulty scope and knowledge very big?

[left sparrow]

????????????????????

[quartz cave]

@left sparrow

[left sparrow]

pure nail in ab does 13 damage

[worn hamlet]

oh ur doing ab

that explains that lol

[left sparrow]

hi BALD.

[graceful storm]

Hornet can parry cuz of her needle

[quartz cave]

??

whats up with so many ppl calling me bald today

do i give more bald vibes today compared to yesterday

[cold shuttle]

Oh
I just tried to parry Oro's attacks
Thx by the way

[worn hamlet]

no idea

I don't think so tbh

[graceful storm]

I parried Lost Kin's dash

[rustic sleet]

RAB HOG is one of the top 5 challenges in this game,how much higher you can go lmao,no hit P5AB is hardest to my knowledge

[fresh isle]

yea hk parry system kind of sucks tbh

[fresh isle]

someones done r5ab old nail white spells

[vivid creek]

I'm not great by any means
It's just that RABhog isn't all that compared to pantheon challenges, modded content or more difficult self-nerfing challenges like r04 / irab

[worn hamlet]

p5ab is the hardest vanilla non-self-imposed challenge

[cold shuttle]

I sometimes do this accidentally

[foggy sable]

so several things, first RAB hall of gods being much easier than r5

[fresh isle]

r5

[worn hamlet]

o

ig it makes sense that r5 is harder

[quartz cave]

thanks twin

[worn hamlet]

yee :D

[left sparrow]

you feel a little bald

[quartz cave]

@foggy sable gn

[fresh isle]

ye its a lot harder

[vivid creek]

Little glowy gem killing all kinds of true completion dreams

[worn hamlet]

makes sense

no hit is a lot harder of a challenge than nerfs most of the time in gaming

[vivid creek]

Grey
Hru

[rustic sleet]

RAB HOG is actually easier than hitless P5?Okay

[fresh isle]

yes

[vivid creek]

By a lot

[worn hamlet]

ye

[vivid creek]

A lot a lot

[keen thorn]

Military

[graceful storm]

Parry is sometimes good

[foggy sable]

hihi

[worn hamlet]

oh hey genio :D

[foggy sable]

soon soon

[bold rose]

and with sprintmaster it got 4.8 so thats probably literally just slightly different mawlek position
and mawlek is one of the best to test this i think

[foggy sable]

well, soonish

[keen thorn]

Like, RAB HoG is to R5 like a proton is to the Sun

[bold rose]

its not even 5 💀

[foggy sable]

...

[keen thorn]

Shhh

[keen thorn]

Hi!

[left sparrow]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fresh isle]

rad ab hog is a lot harder than rad hog but r5 is wayy harder than p5ab just because you need to be pretty consistent at everything with different attack combos and you cant just get lucky

[worn hamlet]

how ya doin today?

[left sparrow]

its still rab

[fresh isle]

i mean you can but like its 42 bosses

[left sparrow]

like its more like a brown dwarf to the sun if anything

[graceful storm]

So?

[keen thorn]

Decently fine. I'll have to go bald on December tho

[graceful storm]

It's just 42

[worn hamlet]

yee man mandatory military places are hard

[foggy sable]

I'm not allowed opinions on difficulty it seems this feels unfair

[worn hamlet]

I wish you lots of luck with that!

[rustic sleet]

I think RAB HOG is underrated compared to R5,right charms combinations make bosses alot easier

[vale condor]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-animals-goat-cow-friends-gif-15707324

[vivid creek]

It's like comparing p5ab to radhog
Individual radiant bosses are way easier than p5 all bindings, but p5 hitless is harder than p5 all bindings
This is just the next tier of that

[worn hamlet]

aren't you one of the crazies who did 04r bosses

[keen thorn]

Actually proton to Sun is 24 orders of magnitude
(Ok obviously an exaggeration but)
RAB is not really that hard

Excluding Collector R04HoG is still quite a lot easier than R5

Excluding collector because that menace is probably harder than R5 on their own

[foggy sable]

I didn't do collector (the difficult one) or flukemarm

[fresh isle]

genio u should do glass soul (classic file) 112

[worn hamlet]

the fact remains u did 04r bosses

[foggy sable]

I just don't think r5 is as hard as people say

[worn hamlet]

and therefore are too good to have opinions on difficulty

[foggy sable]

and the gap between it and other runs is smaller than people say

[vivid creek]

Says Mrs. 50h completion

[worn hamlet]

your very concept of difficulty has likely been diluted and warped around hitless

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[left sparrow]

it is

[keen thorn]

That's a factor of 100x (radius)

[worn hamlet]

bruh

[foggy sable]

like, p5ab is a few times easier maybe

[worn hamlet]

it's a hitless boss rush of 42 bosses

[left sparrow]

its a 30 minute long hitless run

[keen thorn]

Says Ms. R3 = P5AB = F5 = R5 < R4 < P4AB

[foggy sable]

but not 10x as people say

[vale condor]

Congratulations on marriage grey!

[worn hamlet]

compared to what?

[foggy sable]

r5 and p5ab

[vivid creek]

Sorry, Ms.

[worn hamlet]

ohh

tbh I've never tried either seriously so I wouldn't know

[fresh isle]

lol

[foggy sable]

soon more things will be added

[worn hamlet]

I'm kinda done playing hk for the most part tbh

[left sparrow]

p5ab difficulty comes from its length and the fact youre nerfed to shit

[worn hamlet]

ill go back to it every now and again for the nostalgia but I think im mostly good just discuss it

[left sparrow]

r5 doesnt nerf you to shit but its still decently long and you have to do all that hitless

[noble ruin]

Gn genio

[keen thorn]

The issue is bs

[frozen hull]

@keen thorn

[keen thorn]

Gn clover and izu

[fresh isle]

hi clover

[frozen hull]

Gn Gaynio

[left sparrow]

i would say it is much more difficult than p5ab BUT i havent tried r5 and i am just pulling things out of my ass atm

[frozen hull]

Heyfire

[foggy sable]

as you do them more p5ab is easier because consistency in non hitless runs is better

[noble ruin]

Hai eloki

[vivid creek]

Consistent hitless is much harder than consistent ab just because ab allows wiggle room for edge cases & BS

[foggy sable]

but for a first clear I don't think the gap is that large

[fresh isle]

comparing difficulty is kind of silly like
saying x challenge is 10x harder or 2x harder than y challenge is kind of redundant imo

[noble ruin]

This is fake af

[foggy sable]

it is real

[worn hamlet]

true

[frozen hull]

Heyfire

[foggy sable]

hi izu

[worn hamlet]

o hoi izu :D

[fresh isle]

i mean i think it is
u peobably just have good mental

[frozen hull]

Hellacaron

[noble ruin]

I have beaten p5ab with relative ease and I cannot even get a sub 5 hit run it seems extremely hard to me compared to p5ab

[foggy sable]

I also don't think f5 is much different to r5

[keen thorn]

That's why you use astronomy and only care for orders of magnitude

[frozen hull]

Genio go to bed

[foggy sable]

people say it is but I disagree

[worn hamlet]

[keen thorn]

Bah wrong reply

[noble ruin]

Hitless p5 marmu is harder than p5ab tbh

[fresh isle]

r5 is based around overcoming nerves and knowing when to reset a lot and not getting tilted so id assume greyfire just has a really good mental

[worn hamlet]

rad marmu lurking in the corner:

[foggy sable]

idk Iget really bad nerves in runs

[noble ruin]

Rad marmu is easier because you don't have the fear

[smoky matrix]

R5 is based around contradicting your mental health.

[frozen hull]

@smoky matrix

[smoky matrix]

@frozen hull

[worn hamlet]

of what

[keen thorn]

R5 is over half mental
But still I had insanely good mentality

[noble ruin]

Resetting a run

[worn hamlet]

losing a run? You're not even that far along at that point

[frozen hull]

Jay more like

Gay

[fresh isle]

yea

[smoky matrix]

You know what they say.

[noble ruin]

It's like 10 mins vs 10 seconds

[keen thorn]

Until that point but you know, that was basically the last month only

[worn hamlet]

which is nothing in p5

[noble ruin]

What

[quartz cave]

whatttt i thought u werent going since u got black or am i mixing stuff up i remember u mentioning it a while ago wahhhh

[smoky matrix]

Izu more like.
Lesbo????????

[vivid creek]

p5ab took me 45h, I'm at 70h in r5 and I still can't get a sub-5 hit
And this is after the experience gained from p5ab

r5 deffo significantly harder, imo
But I'm preaching to the choir

[frozen hull]

Question Mark

[worn hamlet]

something like white defender or markoth chokes are much much worse

[frozen hull]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

@frozen hull

[worn hamlet]

not to mention gpz or absrad

[quartz cave]

@smoky matrix

[fresh isle]

genio ive literally never seen anyone go for r5 like you did like the spreadsheet and stuff was cool

[smoky matrix]

@quartz cave

[keen thorn]

Exactly.
But I still have to cut my hair to pick it up

[noble ruin]

P5ab took me like 3 or 4 hours r5 I've put like 6 hours into and I am NO WHERE near getting it

[foggy sable]

I did have a spreadsheet for charmless runs

[keen thorn]

[quartz cave]

crazy stuff so u arent doing a military service but still going bald?

[foggy sable]

where I tracked segment rates and hit averages

[worn hamlet]

tbh organizing ur thoughts like that for a mental-based challenge is prolly much more efficient than not doing that

[keen thorn]

I also went bald last January to take my picture

It's all bees and rng

[smoky matrix]

!wiki city

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/City_of_Tears
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page city for a direct link or !wiki search city for a list of all hits.

[noble ruin]

I just used the pantheon hit mod to track how many times no eyes and marmu hit me

[fresh isle]

its kind of interesting how people attempt it differently because for me i think a spreadsheet would just demotivate me from manually inputting stuff

[worn hamlet]

assuming you know how to organize ur thoughts in a way that works for u

[worn hamlet]

huh interesting

[foggy sable]

for r5 normal though all I did was attempts in about an hour blocks

until it got depressing then stopping for the day

[worn hamlet]

valid

tbh that's kinda how I went through my first playthrough of hk

played till it got depressing and then took a break for the day

[foggy sable]

tbh it helps with grinding runs to just stop on a bad day instead of going for longer

[worn hamlet]

yee

[fresh isle]

okay like tbh
i its really good for r5 if you dont have that much freetime but like a consistent 30m to 2 hours of freetime everydag

[rustic sleet]

How hard is a Glass Soul challenge run?

[near geyser]

me after going 3 hours without breakfast.
-# I require my Belgian waffles upon awakening.

[worn hamlet]

yea makes sense

that's how mental challenges tend to be

[agile zephyr]

Traitor Lord is done.

[noble ruin]

I don't rly get why mental is so valued for r5 but ig I haven't done enough of it to understand

[foggy sable]

I got stuck on 6 hit pb for like a month and gave up to do p5ab

[worn hamlet]

ngl tho idk what Belgian waffles are please educate me

[foggy sable]

good times

[rustic sleet]

Imagine an pantheon of all Absrad mods lmao,how hard would that be?

[worn hamlet]

I've heard of them tho

[smoky matrix]

Because R5 contradicts mental health.

[near geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/waffles-waffle-syrup-food-yummy-gif-16668016

[worn hamlet]

no it doesn't?

[fresh isle]

idk its the reason vfk is like the most reset to boss

[near geyser]

Just a big ass waffle.

[keen thorn]

Any% is not that hard but still annoying since it's over an hour
True ending is a lot harder but still probably easier than R5
112 has not been done but eloki has a 2 hit

[worn hamlet]

the way in which most people do it contradicts mental health

[noble ruin]

I feel like if I learned consistent starts for marmu and markoth I could do r5 relatively quickly

[fresh isle]

not getting tilted is hard

[worn hamlet]

not the challenge itself

[smoky matrix]

@keen thorn please educate thid person.

[foggy sable]

basically can yo ucontrol nerves and play well at the end of runs, how tannoyed at early resets do you get and things like that

[fresh isle]

i can teach u

[worn hamlet]

oh that's just what ppl have called waffles all my life

[quartz cave]

breakfast should be eaten at 5-6 pm

[keen thorn]

R5 contradicts mental health

[worn hamlet]

ig america stole belgian waffles

[worn hamlet]

how

[foggy sable]

marmu has a 100% consistent strat pretty much

[near geyser]

What are you, nocturnal?

[keen thorn]

It just does

[agile zephyr]

Cloth.

[worn hamlet]

bro

how

[agile zephyr]

Gonna talk to her.

[rustic sleet]

Or a pantheon of the hardest modded bosses(only 1 mod per boss included)

[foggy sable]

it is true

[near geyser]

America Stole them from Belgium. My lovely country how I miss thee authenticity.

[worn hamlet]

if you can't specify how, then it's likely the community that makes it that way as opposed to the challenge inherently contradicting mental health

[autumn ice]

This begs a certain question

[noble ruin]

What if I just never did r5 instead :D

[quartz cave]

no i sleep at normal times but i only eat one meal a day

[smoky matrix]

Thanks Genio and Greyfire.

[worn hamlet]

dang

[fresh isle]

true ending hitless and r5 are like around the same difficulty imo

[noble ruin]

I find it hard to believe I'd ever choke on absrad but im pretty bad at pv so I'd probably have to practice it

[agile zephyr]

Chat.

[smoky matrix]

Inner peace.

[quartz cave]

clober first trying r5 ??

[near geyser]

Romanian churros though, holy Mackeral, don’t even get me started on how much I like those

[agile zephyr]

Just need one more Charm.

[noble ruin]

So real

[foggy sable]

bad nerves change risk tolerance as well

[worn hamlet]

idk why but at my very core I feel like dnm ending hitless would be harder

[foggy sable]

just being at the end of a run will make you want to play cautious

[worn hamlet]

maybe bc I suck at overworld exploration

[autumn ice]

It's true if you first try r5 you only ever have to do 2 r5 attempts

[worn hamlet]

what do you mean by this?

[noble ruin]

What

[autumn ice]

The second one is for the 2x of course

[worn hamlet]

nvm I processed it

yea that's fair

[rustic sleet]

Does official HK content have something comparable to GD extremes?

[foggy sable]

TE hitless seems fun enough

[worn hamlet]

but I can't see how that impacts mental health

[autumn ice]

(You die to vfk)

[fresh isle]

ok like tbh i havent done te hitless but ive gone for similar overworld stuff

[quartz cave]

do r5 42 times in a row

[worn hamlet]

or maybe I can

hm

[fresh isle]

but i think it would be around the same

[noble ruin]

I can't wait for eloki to do 100% hitless

[foggy sable]

people I've talked to say they are similar

[fresh isle]

i think i have

idr

[worn hamlet]

that's a thing? ;-;

[rustic sleet]

Is it possible to beat RadAbsrad without shade dash?

[noble ruin]

Yes very much

[fresh isle]

wait no i havent

[keen thorn]

6 dashless R5s so far

[worn hamlet]

it's possible to do radabsrad without anything except wings

[autumn ice]

Ddark gg

[foggy sable]

and dive

[noble ruin]

You can ddark, you can Baldur shell, you can void pogo out of range, you can just kill the boss before they do it as well

[keen thorn]

Hopefully I'm the 7th

[fresh isle]

i have a colo distance pb which is like right before u clean up sly and stuff

[worn hamlet]

fair

[autumn ice]

Should be doable ddark-less too if you just get lucky i guess

[keen thorn]

[worn hamlet]

yeah the attacks do seem too fast for pure itemless (wings excluded) dodges

[autumn ice]

Rs4 after dashless r5? Im coping

[noble ruin]

Baldur and void pogo too but void pogo is hard

[rustic sleet]

What if ddark and baldur shell is not an option(white spells and AB)

[fresh isle]

im going for 112 when i feel like it

[worn hamlet]

m

[verbal pasture]

Then desolate dive

[noble ruin]

Eloki should feel like it rn imo

[fresh isle]

hi levi

[verbal pasture]

[verbal pasture]

Greetings

[fresh isle]

no i didnt sleep well and i feel a little bit sick

[quartz cave]

eloki does 112% league of legends

[keen thorn]

Wings only item is doable but nearly impossible

[naive dew]

@fresh isle @noble ruin hiiii

[keen thorn]

The dodges are ridiculously tight

[fresh isle]

hi terraria fans

[quartz cave]

melone hates me

[worn hamlet]

anyways ima disappear now bai chat :D

[noble ruin]

Claw only item is funnier

[naive dew]

genoooo

@quartz cave @quartz cave @quartz cave

[worn hamlet]

oop

[keen thorn]

You can't hitless tho

[worn hamlet]

anyways baii

[verbal pasture]

That’s me

[verbal pasture]

Are you aware that there’s an official skyblock seed in terraria now

[noble ruin]

Why can you hitless with wings but not with claw

[verbal pasture]

I heard it’s kinda mid though

[fresh isle]

yea its like kinda mid

they just add slimes to get like every needed resource

[keen thorn]

With wings you can go out of screen to despawn walls in plats

[noble ruin]

Eloki rushed through our 1.4.5 playthrough to play SkyBlock and then quit SkyBlock before eoc

[keen thorn]

It's like, absurdly tight tho

[rustic sleet]

Alright,what is the hardest possible official HK content challenge,give me answers

[verbal pasture]

Hold on this is fire??????

[foggy sable]

I'm seriously considering running r5ab now tbh, opinions have changed since yesterday

[noble ruin]

Just like get lucky and don't get wall lmao

[fresh isle]

and bosses drop progression but u dont get to know what it is unless u look it up or do the boss

[keen thorn]

You can't, that's not how the boss works
Walls are eventually forced

[fresh isle]

which like removes the puzzle aspect of skyblock

its kinda bad

[keen thorn]

Idk how it works but teano explained it to me
Walls are forced eventually

[strong skiff]

can i get a summary of 1.4.5

[graceful frigate]

Should i do 112% hitless or play nine sols

[strong skiff]

also how many decades did that take

[graceful frigate]

I need advice

[noble ruin]

But what if I'm goated and kill it before walls anyway

[verbal pasture]

Doesn’t planters just drop every single thing you need for golem

[noble ruin]

Like is it physically impossible to do enough damage or something

[verbal pasture]

Like 500 lizard bricks lizard power cell pick saw and lizard altar

[noble ruin]

Yeah

[fresh isle]

really good qol

DIGTOISEEEEEE

more boulders

a lotttt more secret seeds that u can mix and match

like 9 new whips (whip stacking removed)

[verbal pasture]

NO NOT WHIP STACKUNG

[keen thorn]

With full gear yes
With Itemless gear you're just too slow even with perfect luck and execution

[verbal pasture]

NO

HOW COUPD THEY DO THIS

[strong skiff]

whats whip stacking

you could get effects from 2 different?

[verbal pasture]

You use multiple whips to stack the bonuses of the whips

[fresh isle]

they added 9 more and ig they didnt want to buff it even further

[noble ruin]

Whip stacking was annoying rah

[verbal pasture]

I still don’t like it

Let summoner do 300000 billion dps its awesome

[fresh isle]

swapping hotbar slots mid fight is just annoying imo

[verbal pasture]

Meh I get it

[noble ruin]

They added specific reforges to the summoner anyway that make up for whip stacking with like 2-3 whips anyway

[verbal pasture]

It’s worse for really complicated fights

But most of base game isn’t that bad

[royal helm]

i beat zote 3, this fight is so fun

[fresh isle]

summoner is still probablyyy best dps idk dont quote me on that

[graceful frigate]

Can somone please answer

[noble ruin]

Zenith,,

[fresh isle]

112

[royal helm]

112

[fresh isle]

ok well yea

[strong skiff]

so basically its good but not worth to go back to terraria cz i dont want to

thanks elokers

[graceful frigate]

Ok👍

[fresh isle]

the qol is so nice

u can craft from nearby chests without opening them

its great

[noble ruin]

It's like magic storage but less annoying

[verbal pasture]

Can terraria add official shimmering skies

[maiden gorge]

doing white palace on a 3 year old controller with drift is not for the weak

[verbal pasture]

100 hours of fishing is peak

[tiny yoke]

PURE VESSEL ASCENDED NOHIT

should i try p4

[fresh isle]

skyblock seed but i disable slime spawns

[smoky matrix]

Yes.

[noble ruin]

Sleeping is evil

[royal helm]

should i do zote 4 or p2

[tiny yoke]

p2

[royal helm]

alr

[noble ruin]

Is this impossible I don't think you can get a water bucket

[verbal pasture]

Go play infernum low%

How about that

[fresh isle]

shimmer anvils down

[noble ruin]

What are you building furniture out of

[fresh isle]

cactus

[noble ruin]

Where are you getting cactus wtf

[fresh isle]

mimics drop magic mirrors> glass > sand > sand platform

[plush pecan]

Zote 5

[noble ruin]

Does cactus just grow on sand or do you need to make a desert biome

[fresh isle]

it just grows

u can also farm sand with like 40 of it to get antlion

[plush pecan]

You playing terraria?

[noble ruin]

No

[royal helm]

took me ~2 hours to beat zote 3, i dont really feel like grinding all the way to zote 5 rn

[noble ruin]

Ok then hop on it imo

[bold rose]

i just did a test run and old nail + base spells was faster than all summons 💀

[fresh isle]

no

[sturdy galleon]

white spells are incredibly powerful.

[fresh isle]

hi muzzle lm

[bold rose]

( i gave both grubsong because weaversong can get soul with it for glowing womb )

[bold rose]

false knight gives like no soul.
i chose it because its the easiest for the spawns to hit

[noble ruin]

Hates fun

[fresh isle]

i can hop on journey mode after i get out of bed and get food though

[noble ruin]

It's 4am and I haven't slept so I'm not hopping for a while

[sturdy galleon]

i havent tested if its more dps than cyclone or something similar, but dreamnailing the boss to get wraiths off is pretty nice.

[fresh isle]

oh
gn chomp

[noble ruin]

Gn chomp

[lime grove]

mystical agricultural mentioned

[verbal pasture]

What does this mean

[bold rose]

without dream nail

just old nail + soul from stagger and grubsong

[lime grove]

a minecraft mod, insanely broken even for hard modpacks

[royal helm]

oh wow first guy in p2 is cooking me

[sturdy galleon]

what other charms?

[bold rose]

nothing

and that was the same speed against false knight than glowing womb + weaver song + grubsong + max grimmchild

[sturdy galleon]

then why are you running grubsong?

[bold rose]

( 1 second faster technically )

[gilded locust]

am i going to fight the sun? ahh moment

[unborn edge]

[bold rose]

to show that summoners are ass

because someone keeps saying they are good

so i had to test it myself

[sturdy galleon]

they're useful occasionally.

[bold rose]

WHEN????

the best case scenario is weaversong grubsong

[unborn edge]

did you fight the sun

[plush pecan]

When you download mods

[bold rose]

maybe

[sturdy galleon]

weaversong+grubsong can be helpful soul generation. theres various cheese strats involving summons. in early randomizers where you have nothing, they provide a fine additional dps.

[knotty ravine]

low gh

[sturdy galleon]

god no.

[gilded locust]

i am doing it rn

[sturdy galleon]

grimmchild is borderline worth removing in some circumstances.

[fresh isle]

no?

i love free dmg

[bold rose]

ah yes 6.1 dps at MAX LEVEL

[royal helm]

only time its bad is the jellyfish area

[sturdy galleon]

i hate staggering the boss for a free 35hp dive and a heal.

[royal helm]

how much harder is p3 than p2?

[bold rose]

fucking spore shroom dreamnail might have the same dps as grimmchild alone

[bold rose]

did you save zote?

[royal helm]

yeah

[upbeat basin]

oh thats rough...

[sturdy galleon]

its a significant difficulty increase, even without zote.

[royal helm]

alr

[plush pecan]

Marrisa's audience+weaversong+grubsong goes crazy for soul gen man

[sick mica]

and EeEeEyYyEeE

[willow mica]

chat how to beat yoda in p3?

[strong skiff]

dash and walk back

[willow mica]

his phase 2

[strong skiff]

yes exactly

[floral pulsar]

Stand still, dash away, dash back, hit

Repeat

[sick mica]

um hi?

[strong skiff]

bye

[willow mica]

hmmm alright

[strong skiff]

phase 2 is tankeble tho

if you have enough hp

[willow mica]

i love how every1 knew who yoda was in p3

[floral pulsar]

You can also charge up nail arts to speed it up

[strong skiff]

why r u at 108% tho gng

[sick mica]

IF YOU WISH TO DEFEAT ME TRAIN FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS

[willow mica]

eh?

im on p3
did everything else besides steel soul

[strong skiff]

p3 is 109

p4 is 110

where is the other 2

[willow mica]

once completed?

[strong skiff]

yes?

[willow mica]

p5 and steel soul

[strong skiff]

what

[floral pulsar]

P5 doesnt count

Steel soul is a different file

[willow mica]

fuk
what other percent am i missing

[floral pulsar]

Pantheons 3 and 4 give 2%

You're missing 2

[strong skiff]

seer imo

and some random thing

potentially colo 3

or a boss that locks p4

[floral pulsar]

Do you have all 11 notches?

[strong skiff]

these are not %s

[floral pulsar]

Notches don't give %?

[strong skiff]

correct

[unique wolf]

Guys what is the funniest part of either game and why is it the Zote the Mighty boss fight?

I kept on doing it

It's my claim to fame in HK, I beat ST with only 28% completion and one nail upgrade (although it took 2-3 weeks)

[worthy peak]

Rate the n- only hitless radabsrad build stalwart carefree lifeblood core quickslash and strength

I found it a 7

[unique wolf]

I kept on giving the dead Soul Master my nail

[strong skiff]

me when i use 3 health charms for hitless SO true

[north dragon]

Guys can u pls tell me why could i be blocked from entering voice channels

[worthy peak]

Nice

[strong skiff]

well ig carefree works on radiant

[worthy peak]

I couldn't be bothered to change them

[strong skiff]

but thats just hairloss

[worthy peak]

Problem is it was hitless not just radiant

I wasn't letting myself use it

[wooden egret]

The shape goes into a shape press that presses the shape into a pressed shape.

[floral pulsar]

There's a message requirement

[unique wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tebt9_QR9Nw This video never grows old to me

[north dragon]

Sorry, im a lil slow, whats a message requirement?

[dapper mortar]

Thou needeth toth sendeth 150 messageth

[north dragon]

Oh, i see, thanks a lot!

[dapper mortar]

Yeh

[north dragon]

I thought i was banned for something

[dapper mortar]

Anyways, what is the current discussion about Hollow Knight?

[worthy peak]

Can you rate my hitless build

[dapper mortar]

Sure. Hitless for what tho?

[worthy peak]

I'll forward it

[dapper mortar]

Okie

[wooden egret]

Yo hk chat thoughts on this?

[worthy peak]

Here

[wooden egret]

Gambler ahh build

[worthy peak]

It's actually legacy quickslash

[dapper mortar]

What is "N- "?

[worthy peak]

It's actually hitless. I wasn't letting myself use the effect

[worthy peak]

Nail

I'm not allowed spells basically

[vernal knot]

Spell only is fun

[worthy peak]

Takes ages I bet

[vernal knot]

You wouldn't be wrong, no

[worthy peak]

Waiting on kingsoul or is zero damage nail allowed

[wooden egret]

I was playing hk on mobile.
The Radiance almost made me quit the game but after realising I still have to beat nightmare king grimm I definitely decided to quit the game for good.

[dapper mortar]

MOBILE?!

[wooden egret]

Yeah hk modding community knows no bounds

[dapper mortar]

Still, that's insane

[steady pasture]

@wooden egret questionable username

[dapper mortar]

I don't see why you would have Stalwart or lifeblood core if its hitless.

[vernal knot]

PK did nothing wrong yeah

[worthy peak]

I couldn't be bothered to change my charms.

[dapper mortar]

Mop?

[worthy peak]

And I had a mod that would have made using carefree cheating

[steady pasture]

he probably had the right intentions

[vernal knot]

"Probably", did

[worthy peak]

So I just reset if it triggered

[vernal knot]

He sacrificed a lot of fetuses, but at the end of the day it was to save his kingdom

[vernal knot]

To be fair Hornet is never really implied to have disagreed

Iirc at least

[wooden egret]

Tbh he did it to delay what was already inevitable

"what good to foresee a demise inevitable"

[vernal knot]

He was under the assumption it'd be a permament fix

[vernal knot]

This sentence was said after the fact

We dunno' how the Wyrm's Foresight functions to say for sure if PK was aware or not

[wooden egret]

He thought the power of the void could challenge the nature and even time itself.

[vernal knot]

So the Shrumal could just be wrong about what he thinks PK saw

[vernal knot]

He did, yeah

[willow mica]

littles did i know sly would snatch my balls and cut me in half

[stark marlin]

Aren't that seer's words

[steady pasture]

well he did give the bugs free will unlike radiance

[dapper mortar]

Dam, why did die?

[wooden egret]

Nah it appears near a fallen giant mushroom

[stark marlin]

Oh sorry then

[worn hamlet]

radiance took away their individual agency

[worn hamlet]

with the right mood, she could probably do the same as pk

the thing is her wrath was invoked ._.

[steady pasture]

radiance always wanted to rule

[worn hamlet]

yeah obviously

I didn't say her wrath was ethical or moral

I just said that it was invoked

[vernal knot]

What

[worn hamlet]

plus higher beings probably have a very different system of morals than regular bugs

[vernal knot]

Where does that notion come from?

[worn hamlet]

just bc of how much more power they have

[steady pasture]

the infection?

[worn hamlet]

the moth tribe

[near geyser]

Pale King slander is hilarious.

[worn hamlet]

the infection is as a result of her having been forgotten

[steady pasture]

and not letting any bug actually think

[wooden egret]

Radiance most likely used to unite bugs under a hive mind. She didn't mind it until moths betrayed her which was a turning point that lead to the establishment of hallownest.

[vernal knot]

That was out of wrath or whatever Radiance was thinking about whilst being forgotten

[worn hamlet]

she was mad that everybody just switched over to pk at the flip of a coin

which is pretty fair

[vernal knot]

We don't know if they had the same ability as TK to ascend bugs

[willow mica]

sly = Ypda

yoda

[vernal knot]

This logic can also be applied to Unn

[worn hamlet]

thank you for actually knowing things about hollow knight

very much appreciated

[worn hamlet]

yes indeed

[steady pasture]

so she wasnt an evil mean bitch?

[worn hamlet]

tbh we know basically nothing about unn other than what they created

[dapper mortar]

You just have to learn when the right time is to attack. Did you die to first or second phase?

[worn hamlet]

because they were in a weakened state during the events of the game

[vernal knot]

Radiance was fine with just existing with the Moth tribe, probably gave protection even

[willow mica]

so wait p5 isnt part of 112%?

[willow mica]

2nd phase

[vernal knot]

But like they were about to be locked away forever if forgotten

[worn hamlet]

we don't know that for certain

[vernal knot]

It was a fight for survival at that point

[worn hamlet]

but yes it's pretty likely

[vernal knot]

I forgor to the add the Likely after Radiance, mb

[worn hamlet]

hence why she started fighting pk yes

[dapper mortar]

It's hard to get swipes in. You dash through him and at least try to hit him after he attacks.

[worn hamlet]

nope

just very misunderstood

[royal helm]

just got into white palace for the first time, oml can i have a few more saws

[steady pasture]

wow i got the whole thing wrong then

[worn hamlet]

bc it's a very societally ingrained thing that final bosses tend to be evil

[vernal knot]

Radiance nevertheless is clearly driven by wrath at some point

[worn hamlet]

not ur fault at all

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Radiance

Description:
The light, forgotten.

Hunter's notes:
The plague, the infection, the madness that haunts the corpses of Hallownest... the light that screams out from the eyes of this dead Kingdom. What is the source? I suppose mere mortals like myself will never understand.

Dream Nail:
...ANCIENT ENEMY...
...I DO NOT FEAR YOU...
...LET ME BE FREE...
...I WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN...
...DAWN WILL BREAK...
...THE LIGHT CANNOT BE CONSUMED...

@megathekindly used /journal name: Radiance

[steady pasture]

what about the pale king killing so many of the vessels just to find the strongest one

[vernal knot]

What?

[steady pasture]

letting die*

[vernal knot]

Pale King killed so many fetuses because he wasn't sure even one could "Survive" The voiding

[worn hamlet]

he was going clinically insane trying to find a way to make his kingdom last just a tad longer

[vernal knot]

The criteria for THK, for what we see in-game, is that they were the first to complete the climb out of the abyss

[steady pasture]

yeah

[vernal knot]

Thus deemed "Pure Vessel"

Which Is different to why Godseekers call PV "Pure vessel"

[steady pasture]

wait why did pale king and herrah mate again

[vernal knot]

It was a deal

Herrah had a heir, Pale King had a dreamer

Herrah just wanted a child of high birth or wtv

[steady pasture]

ohh damn

[vernal knot]

I dunno'

[worn hamlet]

I think herrah just wanted someone to continue her legacy

[vernal knot]

I mean not really

[worn hamlet]

and pk gave her a chance to give that someone a chance to be really powerful

[vernal knot]

But that's yk, Silksong stuff

[worn hamlet]

o

fair fair

ngl im starting to debate with myself on whether to watch a lore vid on silksong or actually finish the game

[vernal knot]

[worn hamlet]

bc mid to late game silksong is just not my cup of tea whatsoever

[vernal knot]

Whatever you do just don't watch Mossbag's

[royal helm]

what the hell is this 😭

[worn hamlet]

it's just a bunch of grinding with a ton of opportunities in the overworld to die by accident bc of all the double damage

[vernal knot]

It has the funniest shit in it

[worn hamlet]

and all the secret breakable walls -_-

[steady pasture]

he has like 3hr long videos, i thought he was the best?

[wooden egret]

She was. She destroyed all of underground including those who dissociated themselves from Pale King. She wanted to destroy Mantis Village by offering the 4th mantis lord power though infection causing a massive conflict between mantis lords and traitor lord with his infection amped faction. She also attacked the mosskin who worshipped Unn preventing them from hearing his call putting him to a significantly weakened state. Deepnest is just as usual. The hive was also infected though you can argue it was for their "benefit".

[vernal knot]

I mean yeah but it has an increidbly funny and hilarious mistake

[worn hamlet]

wait if it's funny why should I specifically not watch it?

[steady pasture]

ohhh the traitor lord

[worn hamlet]

ohh I see

[vernal knot]

It was mostly a joke

[steady pasture]

thats why the broken chair and stuff

[worn hamlet]

ah fair lol

[vernal knot]

just check the pinned comment when done with the video

A random person corrected them

[steady pasture]

how far is pharloom from dirtmouth again

[vernal knot]

We dunno'

[worn hamlet]

anyways ima start a new mc world and try getting to the nether for once in my life

[vernal knot]

We don't really have a measurement for anything in Hk

[worn hamlet]

as opposed to starting a new world once I get diamonds ._.

[vernal knot]

We dunno' how big or small anything is

[worn hamlet]

bai chat :D

[steady pasture]

the abyss seems huge then

[grand vessel]

Guys

[royal helm]

ughhhhhhhhhhhh white palace pmo

[reef fjord]

What does silk heart do

[near geyser]

Valid crashout.

[limpid hinge]

Hey guys, rate my charms

[fickle spindle]

that’s silk song

[reef fjord]

Cool

Now tell me what it does pls

[reef fjord]

Is pale court a fun mod?

[fickle spindle]

maybe go ask in #sk-discussion

[limpid hinge]

Yeah it's peak

[fickle spindle]

trying steel soul wish me luck

[near geyser]

The hell is that fifth one?

[tiny yoke]

I BEAT PANTHEON 4

112% FINALLY

[fickle spindle]

u gonna do all achievements?

[tiny yoke]

probably

only missing like 4 now

i can do 2 very easily

[fickle spindle]

p5 is one…

[tiny yoke]

5 missing*

i can do passing of age easily

[fickle spindle]

do u fight THK and Radiance in p4?

[tiny yoke]

wait im only missing p5, speedrun 1 and speedrun 2

[tiny yoke]

no just pure vessel

and a bunch of other mid difficulty boss

[chilly junco]

nope but..... markoth

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-game-memories-in-orbit-gif-16561756437831424516

My favorite game

[hidden spire]

YAY

[hazy badger]

absoulete radianc mid..

[hidden spire]

Reaching pure vessel in p4 is the most pressure I've felt in hk

[tiny yoke]

markoth isnt too bad if you have floor

[runic shuttle]

im rich

[hidden spire]

(cus I never attempted p5 until absrad that is)

[tiny yoke]

i practiced it a lot in hall of gods and honestly it took 80% of the pressure away

i was only stressed when i got to the final phase

and i saw the tentacle attack

[hidden spire]

Sometimes the tentacle attack is what messed me up

because I kept using goddamn SHARP SHADOW

I became a better person after unequipping sharp shadow

[vernal knot]

Pterodactyl

What is the best HK Boss

[hidden spire]

Yoo waddup

[worldly oak]

the Godhome drums make you feel determined

[vernal knot]

What is best Boss Hk

[worldly oak]

music or actual fight

[hidden spire]

I uhh umm...... Uhhhh

[vernal knot]

Fight

[chilly junco]

I like nkg

[hidden spire]

NKG

[hazy badger]

Yes

[vernal knot]

NKG?

[hidden spire]

idk I haven't went to absrad so idk how it is

sisters of battle is fun

[chilly junco]

Nightmare King Grimm

[hidden spire]

Yeah he knows

[chilly junco]

oh

[cedar creek]

Petition to eliminate Markoth from existence

[hidden spire]

Markoth and gallien*

[vernal knot]

Thanks

But my favorite Boss is GPZ/Absrad

both are tied for the besst boss in my heart

[hidden spire]

Eigong

[zinc wyvern]

world is about to get infected

🥀

[distant bane]

Cool

[versed pilot]

Lol

Pv is ez

Very very ez

[worldly oak]

hold on am i allowed to make a poll

[near geyser]

…

[hazy badger]

bois should i ipdate hollow lnight?😂

[zinc wyvern]

personal preference

[versed pilot]

Blep

[thin wyvern]

Boss tierlist based on tjese factors
1: How fun the fight is
2: the music
3: the story behind the character
4: context within the gameplay itself

[zinc wyvern]

uve done radiant nkg i see

[versed pilot]

I have rad nkg very ez, and rad pv under a minute yey

[zinc wyvern]

u lost me at zote being on s rank

[thin wyvern]

Dude it’s fucking Zote

[zinc wyvern]

with all due respect fuck him

[worldly oak]

yea

[chilly junco]

what did Zote do to you

[thin wyvern]

With zero respect fuck you

Bitch

[zinc wyvern]

annoyinnggg

😭

[agile zephyr]

How do you beat Trial of Fools.

[distant bane]

Zote sucks

[zinc wyvern]

3 ?

[versed pilot]

Ez :3

[distant bane]

By fighting

[thin wyvern]

God you people have no joy or whimsey

[chilly junco]

Zote is the best character

[zinc wyvern]

undoubtedly 🥀

[agile zephyr]

Bro.

[floral pulsar]

Why is there zote slander

[agile zephyr]

What, just get lucky?

[chilly junco]

why do people hate Zote

[versed pilot]

Use unbreakable strenth, shaman stone, steady body, and maybe quickslash idk yey and ye spell twister

[agile zephyr]

12 Notches, by the way.

"Just Overcharm."

[distant bane]

I recomend just practice

[versed pilot]

Oh sry

Dont use quickslash then

[zinc wyvern]

steady body is

[versed pilot]

Yesh its useful sometimes

[tiny yoke]

I used sharp shadow it helped me cuz of the longer dash mainly

[zinc wyvern]

i mean, u have to change ur fighting style for that one charm

[tiny yoke]

And also cuz I suck at traitor lord

[versed pilot]

OH YEAH THAT

[zinc wyvern]

and if u master it with quick slash, u r on fire

[versed pilot]

@agile zephyr USE SHARP SHADOW

[zinc wyvern]

🔥

[worn hamlet]

quite frankly, most of the people in this channel don't tend to know how to give proper advice for things like this

[versed pilot]

I have it mastered

[worn hamlet]

ur best bet would prolly be hk help tho

[tiny yoke]

i kinda started actually liking sharp shadow after p4

[worn hamlet]

I've seen some pretty experienced ppl there

[agile zephyr]

💔

[versed pilot]

I LOVE IT

[worn hamlet]

including myself lol

[tiny yoke]

i used to not like it

[worn hamlet]

I'm just one of the few who admits it

[zinc wyvern]

have you done p5 ? ig u have done it

[agile zephyr]

Even Traitor Lord is easier.

[worn hamlet]

tbh traitor lord is really just a tutorial boss

and the reason a lot of ppl struggle with him is bc they don't realize that

[versed pilot]

Use- Unb strength, sharp shadow, steady body, shaman and spell twister

[agile zephyr]

For Silksong maybe.

[tiny yoke]

i suck at it for some reason, or used to, before I knew how to control shadow dashes

[worn hamlet]

no

[silk beacon]

Use nail arts and shaman stone

[versed pilot]

Nope but pop hitless i have

[worn hamlet]

I mean he is very literally an intended tutorial boss for shade dash by team cherry

he is meant to teach you how to use shade dash to create openings you couldn't before

[agile zephyr]

Nosk isn't?

[worn hamlet]

and ofc spacing, since he's a really big boss

[zinc wyvern]

radiant hog ?

[versed pilot]

I love sharp shadow yey

[worn hamlet]

no?

[tiny yoke]

i cant use shade dash properly withour sharp shadow

[worn hamlet]

Nosk is literally a side boss

[versed pilot]

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