#hk-discussion
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QS is a better soul generator than Grubsong+Weaverosng.
I mean, 2 notches VS 3/4 notches, depending on if you put Sprintmaster.
correct
that is the point I'm trying to make
whether it is better than the baseline soul gathering charm
And if you're putting 4, might as well put on Eater.
for every case where qs is useful in a spell build for soul generation, straight up using a nail build is WAYYYY better
so, even though qs is a very good soul generator, actually using it in a spell build makes no sense
I believe catcher + twister is more efficient than eater
which, naturally, is why I run all 3 soul gathering charms at once
Yeah, so use Catcher instead.
in any spell build
Alp actually tested this and found out in a general case, SEater is better.
huh
ok but catcher grants less soul than weaversong and has none of the safety weaversong grants
For nail binding in pantheons I use eater
well
so what are the conditions it depends upon
How?
it is how much you have stored right?
Does it grant less soul?
twister is fundamentally different than catcher and eater
if you are in a situation where you reach max soul its hard to compare
but iirc eater is better for pure soul gain
weaverlings strike so, so many times against the bosses weaversong is useful on
the damage is still pitiful but you'll gain tons of soul
weavers are 3 soul each hit iirc
what could you possibly do with that much soul
yeah and they hit a loooooot
which is not a lot
I don't remember all three of them but one was how long the thing you're doing is.
For longer stuff like Colo3 or Pantheons, she said that Eater is undoubtedly better than Twister+Catcher.
expecially on any floating bosses
This is only w grubsong right
makes sense, I run all 3 anyway so I never tested
Yes
i mean, yeah, don't use weaversong on floating bosses (with the distinct exception of p5 markoth)
nmg against markoth is 
I mean, how much soul you gain from a boss with SCatcher depends on how many hits you land.
And if you cannot land that many hits without being safe, I feel like it's a skissue.
hi Jay you’re a snail
yeah it's a skill issue
weaversong eliminates the skill issue altogether
so it is better
Hi Norbert, you're a lettuce and grubomg.
Uh huh.
but why would you ever run weavers over eater anyway, they have to get 3 hits per nail hit you get
that is never going to pay off
I guess if you don't know how to fight a boss because you are new to it or something it might be usable
but in that case run grubsong + quick focus
or if the boss is rng bullshit like failed champion or gpz
plus qf is useless in radiant fights kek
if weavers give soul against the armour
in radiant fights you should be using those 4 notches for something good
they doooo
I am a summon enjoyer but the charms are not good
when I use summons I do so with the knowledge that it is because they are fun
not that they are anywhere near optimal
though even for sly, your main damage source is nail arts
or nail arts I guess
qs
against sly
how many times do you get hit against him lol
hm, idk how to
so i resort to nail arts + minions + sharp shadow
which with eater is 24 soul
anyway I can see the use case of sprintmaster in sly phase 2
it honestly helps more in phase 1
alongside sharp shadow
it lets you perfectly dodge the triple slash
??
triple slash is just walk away and dash under the third
@foggy sable
@sick heath heads
G.G.
@quartz cave
Hii corn hru
walljumping can fuck you over against sly
Hellaymer
so i never do it
Some mod shd look at hk general
Hi melone I am good hru
Hellone.
Tired.
They have already been pinged twice💔
Day has been very hectic.
Same
And it's not even over yet.
Oh mb didn't see ur ping cuz of the spam wall
What time is it in jayworld
3:33 PM.
Late
Nah D.W. i was thinking of pinging again
how so?
ideally you jump up then dash inwards from the wall
@quartz cave hi
he can straight up jump into you
not talking about triple slash
he has to be locked into the attack
would this work
otherwise no point camping the wall
i guess our muscle memories are just different
I think I just know the fights too much
so something like sprintmaster is not required
There's a bigger chance of me getting 100% in math than this
That fight was kinda easy
Yeah imagine him being hard when you go to fight the radiance?
Idk what to do next
Prob upgrade my dreamnail
Or kill nkg
He cooked me last time I tried
Oh wow I haven’t updated my percent in a while
I’m now 83%
Go do The radiance 
Yes but they're super difficult.
Well You have to do quite few things to do before you reach her
How many stag stations are there total?
Congrats
Uhhhhh. There's Dirtmouth, Crossroads, Greenpath, Queen's Station, Queen's Garden, Storerooms, King's, Grounds, Village, Hidden and Stag nest.
I also just Beat the hollow knight
I have 9 😭 and I don’t have every one
Last time I played
I’m trying to get stagnest, I’m just missing 1 I think
Where is stag nest
@royal helm
I don’t have it unlocked
Ahhhh garden is what I’m missing
Then I’ll get best
Nest
Did bro play silksong before hk
Nahhhhhhh nope Nuh uh
It zoomed in right as I was taking it
I tried to take a picture but he just has a massive forehead in it
wheres village and stagnest?
U can do the ending again
Deepnest and howling cliffs
Village in Deepnest.
Stagnest, you unlock after getting all others.
If I dreamnail just a random guy will they give essence
Like some normal enemy
No.
Alr
Normal enemies give essence if you kill it (1% chance).
congrats ggs!
1/300 chance
can be increased under some conditions
Oooo amazing returns
Oh.
Indeed.
like 1/200 with dream wielder iirc
dream wielder 👀
this is one of the reasons why strength is the best charm in the game
(i replied to the wrong thing)
I think I can ignore the trees and warrior graves and just grind that, should only take 210,000 enemies for the next level
it makes essence farming brainless
Dreamgate uses also increase the odds iirc
if you have used more essence from dream gate than get from random drops
but I don't think it stacks with wielder
was gonna use kingsoul strat for the delicate flower mission and then
and then i kinda forgot ab the mission
lol
ugh same thing happened with me, p5, and gpz
i had to edit my save file to get rid of that fucker
i just died to absolute radience in the pantheon of hallownest
when she was like 7 or 8 nails
hits
from death
can i cry on someones shoulder
Go watch aot
sounds inadvisable to lose to absrad tbh
maybe
hey this just means you're 50 minutes away from beating the game
...
when im already 70 hours in a single run
dawg how long is this game
i was trying to motivate you 
im already depressed
p5 alone takes 50 minutes
well
so, you'll get her next try
50 is a long p5
you might win in less than 50
well, it's average for the inexperienced imo
yall think NKG is harder then absolute radiance
ok no
no
wdym inexperienced
not even remotely close
huhh
someone who hasn't already beaten p5 tons of times
Hell no.
I would say though on a first playthrough nkg is equal to normal radiance
ppl beat it more then once?
Yes
THERES MORE?

oh wait nvm yeah
U didn't do the dream no more ending ?
yeah it's the
wow killing the radiance after I beat the shi out of nkg feels ez
YEAH BRO IKR
well yeah nkg is super hard
How do I open the door between fungal wastes and city storerooms?
first time with nkg i could get to phase 2 in a few hours of plying
it's just that absrad is on another galaxy of difficulty
and now at radiance absolute i got to phase 3 in a few hours too
absrad?
plus absrad is rng bullshit
i accidentally learned face dancing while fighting through pantheon 1-4 lmao
Climb or the final orbs ?
Guys I am bored. Make the chat look like a bunch of gorbs talking to each other
ABSolute RADiance
OOOOOOOOOOOBA
radience got mad abs ill tell you that
Do not speak his name
How do I open the door from wastes to city storerooms?
radiance is a women
Guys is that spoilers?
btw hot take i think that grey prince zoth or wtvr is stronger then absolute radience
city what
I think so
you can't
he deals 6 masks of dmg radience only 2
Wtvr?
The location of the stage station in upper CoT
is that lore accurate
Hiiiiiiii
Bruhhhhhh
oh yeah that weird unopenable door
why the fuck does it exist
idk
to stop the mushroom guys from bullying soul master
Absrad has more attacks, higher hp 4, different stages with different kinds of attacks tyat overwhelm you with double damage.
Gpz however is objectively harder than The Radiance and Nightmare King
why is there a "he" next to my name
"wah"
WHAT
Micheal Jackson
Cuz you selected the male pronouns when you were joining the servwr
oh
"he he!"
hee hee
so it got 4
gpz is a fucking slot machine
but is he THAT hard
not really
Similar to the radiance fight
gpz is a call and response fight people just don't see it as such
"I don't even know what I am doing but it is somehow working"
fuck him
hed beat radiance in a 1v1
hed break every bone in my bodyu
...is this an innuendo?
aight imma restart panther 5
P5?
Wowo
I heard it takes way too long than it should
At least you can get lifeblood masks frothe beginning
i died to the fucking spinny weapon guy
i forgot his name
im so locked out
is there a way to get mods to deal extra damage
asking for a friend
Sly
debug mod and increase nail damage
thank you :3
hello
edit your save file
there is a limit tho
Sending this so I can download to computer but if you find it entertaining sweet
peak
overcharmed too
you can change nail dmg by editing your save file
where do i edit it? :c
wait the website doesnt open tf
i mean you can use https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/ too
Good morning corner boost
You can do it with debug mod as well
More user friendly
?tag lumafly
Lumafly
Lumafly (formerly known as Scarab+) is a mod installer for 1.5 based on Scarab, but updated based on community feedback to fix problems that commonly occur in Scarab, as well as adding additional features.
hm
well i got my ass cooked
but i got a question fellas.
what if
someone has beaten pantheon 5
with one mask only
and fury of the fallen and others active
Yes
what.
Someone has beaten P5 with fury
discussion, am i right?
Guys is there a lore for lumaflys? I kinda feel bad for these bugs. Stuck inside lamps, lamp posts etc.
watch the tas, i believe it does use fury
bug glow
delicious
noice
I mean don't all speed runners use fury?
Someone did p5 with all bindings old nail and white spells hitless
wait, quite a coincidence someone named coffee is here, as i myself am a cup of coffee
Believe so yeah
indeed
what too much time does to a man
its unbelievable really
Don’t say that about my goat
alright
human flesh
what
Guys opinions on this
they hunger for the flesh of the long pigs
i like ur name
Grubber fly elegy too
muehehehe
nothing wrong
chatting mid pantheon rn
fair
Happy delayed april fools or smth idk.
Shoutout to egloggy my main man ngl, definitely the best vtuber fr fr
ORIGINAL (from 'fireb0rn'): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kkGaF2vs8o
Audio at the end: https://youtu.be/81_IhVC8VFA?t=1657
Lmao
guh
let us discover the degenerates
hot as in firey
obviously
then why ask
Omg... I made it all the way to the traitor's grave without taking a hit, and..
I FORGOT TO GET THE FLOWER

...
what kind of coffee r u
made the exact same mistake
indeed
hell yeah
Massive moss charger a god?😭
they call everybody a god there
like
some fucking big vengefly is a god i guess
DID I SERIOUSLY FUCKING DIE TO THE SISTERS
It's alrighttttt
I mean you're fighting 3 enemies at once it's hard to keep track on all
its more heartbreaking to die in the radiant abs rad last phase climb which i just did
(i haven't reached them yet so idk how hard are they)
🫂
wdym
bat phase
what if theres no bat phase yet and im on 3 masks
other times too risky
then
The sisters of battle i haven't reached them so idk how hard are they
oh damn
when they do fire bats - jump the first one then heal.
On stagger, You can heal when he shoot the flame from the ground, And the spikes one
the spike attack might be healable
its risky chat
with quickfocus you can heal on every attack im pretty sure
you can heal on every attack anyway
That would have been helpful yesterday when i fought him ...
some are just not worth the risk though
real vegeta?
does this mean like with consistency.
if you pick the attack early enough I believe so
._.?
he mad you wooped his buns once
They should bow to him
Speaking of nightmare king grimm do you guys find the putterfish attack hard or easy?
Good luck
kinda easier than some of them
Easy
coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby
Muscle what...
oh i will
gorb and worm down
chat how many bosses left in pantheon 5
i just beat the spiny weapon guy
a whole lot more
you arent even halfway through yet
42 bosses
yay...
42 bosses in p5
44 in HoG
47 in the game
i had a stroke
42
or 41 if you havent unlocked gpz
who are you on
i just beat the spinny weapon guy
galien?
in that oasis thing rn
which i hope you did not
you gonna learn to love p5
uh hes abt 20 in
fuck
probably a bit less
where is save data located in linux mint?
?saves
paintmaster shio
?tag saves
Important paths
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**Windows except XBox Games ** 🪟
- Save Files:
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\ - Mod Files:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\ - To find Saves folder:
- Press
[WindowsKey]+[R] - Copy & Paste the Save Files path
- Press
[Enter]
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- Save Files:
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Mac OS 🍎
- Save Files:
~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ - Game Files:
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hollow_knight.app, select "show contents", then go to:contentsᐅresourcesᐅdataᐅmanagedᐅmods - To find Saves folder:
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**Linux ** 🐧
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have fun:)
folder hollow knight in the team cherry folder isn't there, i only see the silksong folder
fun in pantheon 5?
well if you are masochistic enough:)
i have the game on steam, and i have been playing
Guys what is the point of this
of what
P5 all bindings, radhog
enjoyment mostly
tf is radhog..
It is just a -very- short term feeling of joy
beat every single boss in the game without taking any damage:)
WHAT
Are 2 years really worth doing all of that?
yes
yes
ill do go for it after beating muscular radiance
hello?
beeetttt
neither radHoG nor p5ab take 2 years
I can beat all soulslike games including hk in the same time
hello
1?
ok buddy
not that either
6 months?
Even a year is a lot it took me like 3 weeks
radhog took me like 2 weeks
Thats counting the time after I got bored and didn't bother playing
How many hours on steam 🤨
300hrs
😳
dont be shocked, some people in this community have spent more
fuck grimm
Nah I only ever fought him on trial of the fool and all I did was cycling d dark on the beast
Only 300 hours
yeah i havent try p3 or p4 or p5 all bindings yet
About my steam hour count
fuuuck
Mantis Lords are so easy for me and it feels weird because I was hardstuck there for like 2 days
On first encounter
wooped uumuu
it's because you're more used to the controls
nice
do yall think i might beat absolute bitch this time around
he used to give me so much trouble for some reason
ismas tear is the only side quest and that's still optional
in p5
oh
you still get damaged if you touch the fod
fog
the fog is coming for our balls
what
must've been the wind
why the godseekers cant dream of my guy quirrel smh
im at nailsage slayyyy
*sly, please dont get my fav boss's name wrong
it's sly
heal
or u gonna get cooked
obv
pretty sure it's nailmaster sly
i think bench next
same thing
great nailsage sly
the nailmasters are his disciple
HA
anyone have a grub skin working with custom knight?
you wanna get eaten by the grub father or what
nah
sorry bad joke
crazy
where is it i want the grub skin for the knight
guys whats the boss yall struggle the most with
watcher knights
until the pantheons*
huh
coffee...
cant find it 😿
after my game
Alr
fuck abs rad and the moth tribe
moth tribe
yummy
that's good for a first try
its
not
the first try
sentinel hornet
for more then 10th try
i took a long time to beat all the bosses so im used to most
BUT THAT SON OF A BITCH PREDICTED ME WHEN I HAD 1 MASK
...
Anyways
Full Seer's last words
So much Essence... So bright.... You truly are the Wielder my tribe so long has dreamed of.
The folk of my tribe were born from a light. Light similar to Essence, similar to that powerful blade, though much brighter still.
They were content to bask in that light and honoured it... for a time.
But another light appeared in our world... A wyrm that took the form of a king.
How fickle my ancestors must have been. They forsook the light that spawned them. Turned their backs to it... Forgot it even.
And so this kingdom was born from that betrayal. But the memories of that ancient light still lingered, hush whispers of faith... Until all of Hallownest began to dream of that forgotten light.
Ah, but what's done is done. And so am I. The Wielder has at last appeared and I've held the memories of my tribe for long enough. It is time for us to be forgotten too.
Don't remember us, Wielder. Don't honour us. We do not deserve it...
Aahh... I'm sorry...
Light... Radiance...
I... remember you.
i was sad when i realized that i wont get to hear the cute noises anymore
That was the last thing I did for 100% and then I went and beat the Radiance so it was pretty cool
the grub skin ain't there 😭✌️🥀
Whe sounds like a granny
And I feel bad for her
dang😭
did yall know that u can dreamnail the armor of the big knight and get soul for it
yes gng
that means the armor is alive
not really
Realistically it's just an oversight but yeah that too
dont think so
No cost too great
you still dream nail the knight, not the armor
no no
when you kill the
i forgot hs name
atleast in pantheon
you can dreamnail his shell
or armor
Such amounts of copium to get a snippet more lore
or whatever the fuck it is
true
Fals knight
or failed champ
eh i didnt test on champion
I get what you mean yeah but mostly likely an oversight
It works on champion as well
well false knight stole Hedgemol's armor so it could be his dream nail text
and it must be in the game for a long time
Can't play right now but check if the dead body shines as if it's being dream nailed while on the ground
fuck the text you get delicious soul to spam shriek
okay brb
Nom nom nom
hey that's a theory
:3
Would you guys eat soul? I would
it could be Hedgemol's will in the armor
doesnt work for some reason
A game theory
Ok
would hollownest be a lovely place to live? (Under pale kings rule)
prolly isnt true but its fun to think
IT GLOWS
AND IT HEALS
SO THEREFORE THE ARMOR IS ALIVE
Pale king was a dictator
oh shit btw
why not..
from what the people think of him he doesn't seem bad
the armor is not alive wut are you saying
you can dreamnail the armor but you cant dreamnail the ghost
you're stupid
im sure it is
It must be
ok what ghost?
wai
The people likely saw him as a godlike figure incapable of wrongdoing
Hi bye
yep
you actually can dremanail the maggots
his head glows too
im talking abt the specific maggot inside the armor
AFTER
HE
FUCKING
DIES
i didnt pay attention at the head
likely the effects of dreamnail are being applied to the armor aswell since he's wearing it
but you cant directly HIT the head
with the dreamnail
but you can hit the detached armor
What heals
why?
If the body glows it just means it was an oversight tho
If it does it's just an oversight
i feel like this is slowly becoming a rabbit hole
idk it just the default one for some reason when i click on it
or a theory
Because it's a sprite with no hitbox for the dreamnail since the hitbox is supposed to be the armor
maybe just leave the guy alone, he's dead anyway
intentional game design
and his brothers have to watch his dead body
if he gives essence, He shall be harvested!
yo can someone try to play with me on HKMP
mod
i wanna see if it works and if i did it well
... that exist?
yes
dang never knew that
the only mods i played are bosses lol
hmm how does it work?
it's really broken
shiiiit
you can do insane skips with the hkmp mod
oh lumafly right
oh you mean broken in the good way
so I wouldn't recommend it unless ur doing radnzomier lel
yea
yup
nah i just wanna do it for fun
w/ someone
not to beat za game
A game theory
so?
Do you really not get the reference smh
Greenpath > any other location in hollow knight
nah
Do people not know matrick Patrick
bro forgot deepnest smh
His famous line was “but that’s just a theory a game theory”
Fungal wastes is way better
Smh they like don’t actually block anything
pv's arena look majestic
they make it hard to see things
Fungal wastes is worse than deepest im being so fr
As long as you have spacial awareness
That's what he said before finishing the worst hk lore video ever submitted on youtube
collector is painful to practice and I don't like the fight
Nah matrick Patrick the goat
Its bad but not the worst
more importantly than that I'm leaving godhome anyway
Surely nothing is worse than that right?
#MatrickPatrickWasRight
Why would you ever do that
There are atleast he didn't say hornet is void
That would have made it better
queens gardens
white palace
and also there are some easy overworld runs to get
I am sure those theories were out of fashion long ago.
Besides He literally left the channel and it is now ran by someone else I think?
The lore mods don’t want you knowing hornet is void which is why they banned me for saying it
Actually yeah I change my mind that would be very funny
and it feels good to get runs in under 100-200 hours
Worst of the plant based locations in both games
But you are on this server
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A game that grabbed my attention recently is Hollow Knight, the indie darling about insect creatures in masks being terrorized by a creature corrupted by Randiance. This game is LOADED with theory material but what grabbed my attention most was the character we play as - the Knight. There is...
I was unbanned after 2 weeks
I think I've seen this guy
but thats just a theory
And dk why but I have bad feeling
Probably
Do they really ban people for arguing lore with mods?
He was huge
They ban people for trolling in the lore channel but I think my argument was valid
your username makes sense to be worried
I don’t remember my argument but I’m sure it made sense
i remember watching the 70 "final" fnaf theories
According to the conversation here and people in the comments it's totally not worth it spending 20 mins on this
I would argue that, in fact, pk did nothing wrong
Hollow knight
I refuse to believe fnaf has a actual story
But it is true. I know him and he is a very good hearted person
Btw his name isn’t actually matrick Patrick it’s Mathew Patrick and he goes by matpat but matrick Patrick is funnier
mew pew
He was name dropped in the fnaf movie credits so we got Matthew Patrick Coryxkenshin
i dont even know whats true anymore, just a bunch of fragments of information from different and possibly outdated theories
Everyone is just making shit up and everyone else just agrees
Reply ping that message
No that’d be rude
Also and more importantly I might get banned again
...

surely thats not a ping
its not
It isn’t
it shows a @ if it were
You can tell because there’s no @ before the name
also, the message is pinned
Damn didn't know that cool
.
does that mean anything for the ping?
No
nope
They were just saying you can find the message that way
just makes it easier to find
Either it doesn't show on phone or when you ping your self
for me it does
I’m on phone and I see it in this message
zoteboat early access when
didnt u already?
I don't see a @ 😔
im doing hall of gods nkg
cool, did him second try, with shape of unn
youre literally playing it
wait you just gave me an idea...
oh right
fun fact: dont use shape of unn
M.E. that a lot of yellow in your bio
anyone have any resources for p5 speedrunning? 
fun fact: i will
"playing: hollow knight zoteboat"
what
not for p5, but solo nkg it works very well
shh
is it possible to get a hold of this treasure
join the speedrunning discord
Did u see da trailer
never
Crazy how Grimm's mind can ward off an awoken dream nail
Yah

But still able to get banished by a rusty dusty crusty musty ahh nail
I don't think it grimm him self doing it but the nightmare heart but could be wrong

Mhm

i shall sacrifice everything to get it
Ok follow these three steps to get it
First
Makes sense. Since he wants the knight inside his head for the ritual which is why dream nailing him while sleeping without grimmchild says "the child"
Give ur soul to chara
finish both eternal ordeal and gpz in 1 minute
No in only 0.00001 sec
Dats ez
who?
aver means like homie in my language
Inspired by zote ❌
Professional Bretta ✅
LOL
Ouw ahhh damida
Chara from the undatail universe
is it a game or smth?

Yeah
Precept Fourteen: 'Respect Your Superiors'. If someone is your superior in strength or intellect or both, you need to show them your respect. Don't ignore them or laugh at them.
Okie dokie
wut
Disrespecting his corpse for putting too much buzzsaws sounds like a valid crash out
HAHHAHAHHAA
How do u not know undertail
"pale king did nothing wrong" desecrates his corpse
😭
never heard of
He put too much buzzsaws despite looking up to him

bro missed the great meme era
zoteboat screenshots
U should be arrested


wtf

i guess the game is popular?

????? whats that i didnt know it was possible

