hk-discussion

[left jay]

hihihi

[foggy sable]

how so?

soul eater is less than a minute to get from resting grounds stag

and jonis blessing you just walk to and get

[hybrid holly]

Jonis needs 14 fuckass blue hearts that'd take forever

[wind garnet]

💀

[foggy sable]

you are thinking of lifeblood core

[hybrid holly]

Ohhhh my bad

[foggy sable]

Joni is just in a dark room in howling cliffs

[left jay]

im losr

lost

[stiff helm]

hi chat

[plain cloak]

Yo

Beated sentinel hornet using the immortal chip build

Basically deep and quick with thorns and grub

Or deep focus and quick focus and grubsong and thorns of agony

[stiff helm]

it annoys me when i do a shade cloak and i still get hit because of how big the enemy hitbox is
IM LITERALLY USING SHARP SHADOW TOO

[plain cloak]

:/

Then don,t do it

Use spell build cuz shade soul does double damage on large hitbox enemies

[stiff helm]

no.

[plain cloak]

Yes

[stiff helm]

i REFUSE to use spell builds

[plain cloak]

Nail main ahh

Then become like the soul warrior

Aka a mix build

[stiff helm]

no mixing

[nocturne charm]

Who are you fighting

[plain cloak]

I beated hornet sentinel

Whats next?

[nocturne charm]

There’s a hornet sentinel? Where

[plain cloak]

Oh spoiler

Aka hornet fight pt2

[nocturne charm]

Oh that

I didn’t know it was called Hornet sentinel

[plain cloak]

She smacked the living crap out of me

[nocturne charm]

Annoying ahh fight

[plain cloak]

Until i decided to use the immortal chip build

[rigid token]

which sprite should I draw next
(still doing it on paper for now)

[left jay]

im in the fungal place

[plain cloak]

Which is kinda a whole ahh counter to her moveset

[hybrid holly]

guys i got 100% completion how come i didn't get the achievement, do i have to defeat thk again?

[shrewd meadow]

@quartz cave thoughts

[plain cloak]

True ending

[hybrid holly]

wrong game bro...

[shrewd meadow]

nope this the right game

[plain cloak]

This aint genshin

[shrewd meadow]

hollow knight added motorbikes

[stiff helm]

just use qs us and wtv

[north charm]

epic update

since when?

[hybrid holly]

i already got dream no more, do i do it again

[shrewd meadow]

yesterday

[empty lynx]

Get shape of unn from lake of unn and dreamshield from resting grounds

[plain cloak]

What wtv

I know quick slash and unbreakable strength

[north charm]

haven't played hk yesterday, i'll check it out!!!

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/nine-sols-yi-cat-dance-gif-10210571721428424326

[hybrid holly]

it's calm i got 100% now but i don't have the achievement yet for some reason

[plain cloak]

Also primal aspids are annoying

[hybrid holly]

do i have to do sealed siblings or dream no more

[stiff helm]

whatever
all you need is quick slash and us then you do you (but no spells builds the nailsmith gave you a pure nail, keep your build pure.)

[empty lynx]

You have to get any ending again

[hybrid holly]

will play it one day

[plain cloak]

Me with upgraded spells as a mix attacker

[hybrid holly]

sealed siblings takes 2 seconds that's alr

[plain cloak]

I had a semi pure nail

Aka 3rd lvl nail

I didn,t explored the area deepnest

Is it bad?

[nocturne charm]

Shaman stone + strength + quick slash + steady body + grub song

[wind garnet]

what in the fortnite

[plain cloak]

Doesn,t work for me

Cuz i got hit again and again and again

I know skill issue

[nocturne charm]

Grubsong literally rewards getting hit

[left jay]

i want to finish this game but its ragebait

[plain cloak]

Low healing windows

[nocturne charm]

Which boss?

[plain cloak]

How is it ragebait?

[nocturne charm]

maybe u can swap steady body+grubsong for unbreakable heart

Or quick focus if it’s two charms, i doing remember

[plain cloak]

I beated hornet using a personal build

Chip build

Deep focus is underrated

[nocturne charm]

Chip build?

[plain cloak]

Deep focus quick focus thorns of agony grubsong

Thorns do chip damage while i repeat heal

[nocturne charm]

I like brute forcing a lot, i just try to finish the fight before dying

im almost always at 1 heart at the end

[plain cloak]

I am more of a strategist that a valkyrie

Aka fight 2-3 times with multiple different builds

[hybrid holly]

100%ed the game, gonna 112% after silksong

[plain cloak]

Nah

112%off rip

[hybrid holly]

I don't wanna do delicate flower

[plain cloak]

It ain,t that hard

Use this combo

[nocturne charm]

104% rn, the pantheons count towards the percentage right?

[plain cloak]

Baldur shell

Stalwart shell

[hidden spire]

Hollow Knight but better fr

[nocturne charm]

Failed 4 times and i havent played since a week…

[hidden spire]

Only 1234

[plain cloak]

More like hk but you start off auto overcharmed

[hybrid holly]

Doesn't look that good but maybe

I don't like the fact there is no contact damage, I'm a masochist

Doesn't it also not have platforming or am I wrong

[nocturne charm]

Might just go for path of pain atp

[hidden spire]

Barely any platforming

[hybrid holly]

Bruh that's boring

[hidden spire]

It focuses on combat and story

suree

the story is awesome and the ost is better

[hybrid holly]

If it's less than 5 bucks I'll buy it

[hidden spire]

nope

it's expensive

but if you want, it's in the gamepass

[nocturne charm]

Its a good price

[hybrid holly]

It's 15 bucks rn

Maybe if it's 50% off

[stiff helm]

ost better? GAH DAMN THAT MIGHT NEED ME TO PLAY

[hidden spire]

Yea

it was 30 bucks

[nocturne charm]

It’s cheaper for me maybe due to regional differences

[hybrid holly]

Regional pricing made it 15

[hybrid holly]

Weird, I usually get cheap shit

I bought sk and hollow knight for less than 10 dollars so I'm not spending more than 7 dollars on nine sols

That's logik

2.99 for hk 6.39 for sk

[nocturne charm]

Hmm i got hk during the winter sale it was pretty cheap to just ignore the price tag

[hybrid holly]

Yeah it was 50% off for me

[stiff helm]

should i play nine sols

[hybrid holly]

The lowest it got was 50% off

So 7.5 dollars

That was in october

I can wait

[hidden spire]

Ofcourse! But just to warn ya, if you're a hollow knight enjoyer and enjoys those "atmosphere" and "environmental storytelling", I don't think it will be for you. Since Nine Sols is a linear game that forces you into dialogue sometimes. Though I don't really mind with it a single bit. Lowkenuinely I hopped on for the combat and stayed for the story

[hybrid holly]

It's super popular so I'll play it eventually

[stiff helm]

i do enjoy atmosphere and environmental storytelling
however i do enjoy some good dialogue storyline and combat and stuff

wait how expensive

[hybrid holly]

30 bucks

Well depends on regional pricing

For me it's 15

[stiff helm]

for me its 17

[quartz cave]

is it only 3 spins n repeat

[shrewd meadow]

no I just figured out the full combo

and what I was doing wrong

I was buffering too early for the finisher

[mossy sorrel]

i beat the hollow knight

:D

[shrewd meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783921751004151858/1463137648469348487/2026-01-21_00-45-26.mp4?ex=6970bc9f&is=696f6b1f&hm=c3a4ebfd6f4ddb52c323432c9a8b382844b10eaaea36e9c451cba75d7142d19c& this is what I got

[shrewd meadow]

gg

[mossy sorrel]

what should i do now

[shrewd meadow]

this is like pretty close

[shrewd meadow]

beat the radiance

[sick heath]

Play a good game

[mossy sorrel]

dont i need void heart for that

[quartz cave]

wtf only 140k

[ruby patio]

Radiant p5 with all bindings

[shrewd meadow]

I didn't pick up the pyro crystallise

so minus 35% dmg bonus

[mossy sorrel]

what in the hell

[quartz cave]

archaic petra in the ripe 26?

[ruby patio]

It’s easy

[mossy sorrel]

i cannot do that

[shrewd meadow]

it's bis for this combo

[quartz cave]

who runs scrolls

citlali?

[zinc iris]

Hi Oswald

[ruby patio]

You got it bro

[shrewd meadow]

yes

[quartz cave]

@zinc iris hii

hru

[mossy sorrel]

im still new to the game

[quartz cave]

my bina team hit 160k imo

[shrewd meadow]

ok

[quartz cave]

bina ineffa flins sucrose

[ruby patio]

Still easy (it’s only been like one person who’s done it before)

[zinc iris]

Fine hbu?

[quartz cave]

throwo how much dps can u do with furina

[quartz cave]

physics exam tmrw and i havent studied at all 😦

[zinc iris]

Stop being here then smh

[shrewd meadow]

erm

i run her with skirk

my skirk team is 270k

[mossy sorrel]

im just gonna get do grimm troupe stuff

[quartz cave]

is it furina doing 100k of those

[shrewd meadow]

she does ~35%

[quartz cave]

what about iskaffe

[shrewd meadow]

so yeah actually

[ruby patio]

Ooh yeah that’s a great plan

[shrewd meadow]

effie is doing 14%

so is yelan

[quartz cave]

wait huh

yelan?

[shrewd meadow]

yeah

skirk effie furina yelan

[quartz cave]

i thought u run second cryo

third cryo*

[shrewd meadow]

no

i have no good third cryo

citlali is with mav

[quartz cave]

shenhe:

[shrewd meadow]

i said good cryo

also i dont have her

[quartz cave]

😭

is shenhe dead

[shrewd meadow]

no shes like on par with yelan

and mona

etc

but yelan gives me 10 particles because c1

[quartz cave]

oh wait wtf hacks

tbh theres no good 4th slot in this team

or at least no BiS

everyone is like mid

[shrewd meadow]

yes

[zinc iris]

Is this league ?

[shrewd meadow]

you know its bad when columbina is a competitive 4th slot in skirk

[quartz cave]

genshin i fear

[shrewd meadow]

and she has nothing to do with freeze

[quartz cave]

[zinc iris]

Oh that gambling game

[quartz cave]

WAIT YRUE

[copper spruce]

ok

[quartz cave]

@copper spruce

does furina and columbina team work

[copper spruce]

hi

[quartz cave]

or lunars dont get buffed by dmg% right?

[shrewd meadow]

that

[quartz cave]

hyd

whats that

[shrewd meadow]

that is that

[copper spruce]

Suffering

[shrewd meadow]

what i WAS doing (bald)

[quartz cave]

qu'est ce que c'est?

[quartz cave]

150k

[shrewd meadow]

i executed the combo but didnt pick up the crystallise on xilonen

ew

[zinc iris]

Yo there's a scam in #off-topic

[idle belfry]

@sick heath tails

[sick heath]

B.S.

[ruby patio]

Je ne sais pas

Probably because idk what y’all are talking about though

[quartz cave]

non sire c'est une revolution

[quartz cave]

@sick heath

[sick heath]

Hi @quartz cave

[quartz cave]

@sick heath hi

@sick heath how are you

[sick heath]

@quartz cave i am good hru

[copper spruce]

hate

hate

[quartz cave]

@sick heath i am doing okay but i have to study so im doing bad

[quartz cave]

@copper spruce hate what

[shrewd meadow]

THIS is the combos im doing now

[pearl marlin]

Wtfyd

[sick heath]

@quartz cave thats sucks but good luck with that

[quartz cave]

@sick heath thanks u2

[shrewd meadow]

164k wtf

15k dps increase

[quartz cave]

does citlali ult do anything

[shrewd meadow]

no

not for non melt combo

[copper spruce]

idk

just bad mood for no reason

[shrewd meadow]

ok against a big enemy like a ruin guard was a lot more consistent

[frozen storm]

Finally

[subtle knoll]

almost nohit pure vessel </3

[magic storm]

I’m gonna ban you

Don’t bring Genshin into this server

It’s bad enough here as it is

[gritty plover]

How dense is void

[silent shell]

as dense as mercury I'd say

[gritty plover]

Ok

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

[rare aurora]

as dense as your mom

[gritty plover]

Nu uh

[subtle knoll]

i did it

i finally beat pantheon of the knight after 5 hours

[rare aurora]

nice

which one is that in numbers again? 4?

[subtle knoll]

yeah

[rare aurora]

niceee

[subtle knoll]

im NOT doing pantheon 5

[rare aurora]

never say never

[subtle knoll]

im racing my friend to 112% im at 111% he is too, i just need to beat trial of fool

[rare aurora]

good luck with that!

[subtle knoll]

thank you

[copper spruce]

Hi alp

[rare aurora]

hii

[rigid token]

is the stun sprite ass

[rare aurora]

i had my first exam last week

[rare aurora]

what’s this? custom knight ideas or?

[rigid token]

that one weaver, yes

modded boss

or just a part of a bigger project

[copper spruce]

how are you

[naive dew]

Hii alp

[rare aurora]

not doing too well but i’m hanging on, hbu?

helone

[copper spruce]

Trying to review for calc

[left sparrow]

@rare aurora

[copper spruce]

it was easier than I thought

my prof sucks balls at explaining

[magic storm]

Never

[copper spruce]

melon

[rare aurora]

what did you do in calc??

[left sparrow]

Left me on seen

[copper spruce]

[rare aurora]

hii

[rare aurora]

i see math i engage

i’m sorry

[left sparrow]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[copper spruce]

It was some really boring shit like plane geometry

[rare aurora]

in calc??

[left sparrow]

Im doing meth in like 20 mins i just got back home from. Hell

[crisp willow]

drops from heaven

[copper spruce]

yeah

specifically geometry with calculus or something

[crisp willow]

M-Meth???

[copper spruce]

that's what the subject is called here

[crisp willow]

Anyone can cook ig

[left sparrow]

Meth

[rare aurora]

i have my last linalg exercise in a bit so i’m omw to uni rn

[copper spruce]

well the will to live hasn't exited the body so that's nice

[rare aurora]

interesting

[left sparrow]

Good luck cro

[rare aurora]

tho ig that makes sense for cs

[left sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-raven-petting-comfy-sleepy-gif-5462938242020045036

[copper spruce]

good luck

[rare aurora]

wdym luck this isn’t a test lol

[left sparrow]

Oh

i cant read

[copper spruce]

[left sparrow]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[copper spruce]

random heart attack

[rare aurora]

i already did my work and uploaded it i just beed to be present

[left sparrow]

No luck? ? ? ? ? ? ? Be unlucky?

[rare aurora]

damn astig wants me to be run over so she can take my fish in warframe

i see how it is

[left sparrow]

Please dont joke about driving this is inconsiderate to people

[left sparrow]

I had a genuine ass argument in the hell channel about a drunk crashing joke

[copper spruce]

It really was just

a bunch of substitution

[hidden spire]

Hello cro

[copper spruce]

that was it

[rare aurora]

wow

[left sparrow]

Fascinating

[copper spruce]

what

[left sparrow]

I'm fascinated by that

am i not allowed to be fascinated by numbers?

[rare aurora]

our calc was just a bunch of double/triple integrals and de’s

[little arch]

Hello

I just beat the hollow Knight

[rare aurora]

gg

[copper spruce]

oh wtf

my eyes

[left sparrow]

Blind

[little arch]

[hidden spire]

Which end

Every end?

[rare aurora]

it was really funny actually, in the exam we got the bounds of the triple integral for free

[little arch]

Just the first one now I'm going for ending number two

[rare aurora]

gd ❌

[copper spruce]

why do I have 3 mutual friends with astigmatism

my eyes aren't that bad

[hidden spire]

Ah I see

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-react-geometry-dash-every-end-gif-14014268011817838275

[left sparrow]

Message from god

[silk beacon]

Ohh

Ok

[hidden spire]

I have like uhhh idk

I have one with Leon and that's it I don't have anymore with anyone in this server

[copper spruce]

me when I put a calculator as reference

[little arch]

?

[rare aurora]

you have to, no?

[left sparrow]

30 amigos

[hidden spire]

The most I have w someone

[rare aurora]

my most used to be with jere but yeah

[left sparrow]

My most is also 30 amigos

which will go lower i need to purge my friend list

[copper spruce]

I don't remember tbh

[subtle knoll]

got 112%

[rare aurora]

at least here you need to mention any tools that were used

[left sparrow]

Anyway im leaving you to zie alp its cold as shit so i cant talk while walking

[copper spruce]

I only recall research papers, articles and yt videos as sources when it was taught to us

[heady umbra]

Its not cold

[left sparrow]

It is -3

Ok i lied its 4 but feels like 0

[agile pewter]

Try moving countries

: |

[left sparrow]

Truth nuke

[copper spruce]

Move 20 years into the future where coldness stops being a problem

[agile pewter]

Or burn your house

Works as a temporary solution

[shrewd meadow]

@quartz cave

[agile pewter]

[shrewd meadow]

i did a 38s sim (since thats about the shield duration for dire shocktrooper)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783921751004151858/1463160043741516025/Dire_Shocktrooper_Sim_70_Res.mp4?ex=6970d17a&is=696f7ffa&hm=9fe6e60065120298b3b1f1bb186fe18442a66a9a594b14c0ff0bf845a748117b&

i can do the full combo for 38s

[spiral jungle]

how do i get get life blood in pantheons

[shrewd meadow]

bindings

[spiral jungle]

do i have to all bindings?

[shrewd meadow]

no

[spiral jungle]

oh ty

is this a good charm combo

for abs rad

[storm bolt]

this has to be ragebait

[spiral jungle]

no its a veryyy good combo totally

[storm bolt]

replace dreamshield with glowing womb smh

[spiral jungle]

good idea

[low lark]

Can someone tell me how to get out of the city of tears

[spiral jungle]

btw quick slash and strength are soo bad

[spiral jungle]

ye

screenshot where you are rn

[low lark]

K

[storm bolt]

also take out thorns and overcharmed with grimmchild

[spiral jungle]

WW IDEA

or with deep focus

[storm bolt]

nice

[storm bolt]

now ur ready for radiant abs rad

[spiral jungle]

fr fr

wait i found a cool damage animation

[vocal crypt]

Quick focus

[spiral jungle]

quick focus is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

jk

honestly its good

bell boy

[subtle knoll]

i have a better one. shape of unn + joni's blessing + heavy blow + glowing womb + overcharm with deep focus

[sweet mortar]

fuck wrong channel

[vocal crypt]

Put on every 1 notch charm

[spiral jungle]

ww but shape of unn is bad id rather do wayward compass

[spiral jungle]

bad idea nail arts is wayy to bad

spoiler its good

[subtle knoll]

my actual ideal charm loadout recently has been quick focus + quick slash + unb strength + longnail

[storm bolt]

no shaman stone smh

[subtle knoll]

ahh but shape of unn has a synergy with deep focus that makes you go at 200mph in a school zone

[storm bolt]

also longnail sucks

[spiral jungle]

mine is acutally quick focus quick slash unb strength steady body and nailarts glory

[subtle knoll]

interchangeable with unb strength.

[spiral jungle]

oh yea i forgot

[foggy sable]

saying longnail sucks is an over reaction

longnail is fine

[subtle knoll]

for what ive been fighting not really. need a hitbox big enough to parry AND deal damage

[storm bolt]

just put on mark of pride bruh

[subtle knoll]

sorry let me overcharm on something with 4 damage

[spiral jungle]

yees but replace quick focus with wayward compass thorns of agony and overcharm with kingsoul

[storm bolt]

i meant that mark of pride is much better than longnail with just one extra notch

[spiral jungle]

lol

[little arch]

Don't do it he's lying

Never over charm unless you're professional

[subtle knoll]

honestly yeah if you can keep up on full health

[storm bolt]

my combat build is strength, quick slash, shaman and spell twister

[little arch]

Did anyone else hear manage to beat the hollow Knight in 30 seconds of the boss fight starting

[spiral jungle]

after sk i always overcharm tbh

tbh

[copper spruce]

I use 5 copies of sharp shadow

[storm bolt]

spells are broken

in radiant fights i just replace twister with steady body and slap on soul eater

[spiral jungle]

tbh spells are only good for specific bosses

[storm bolt]

they're useful everywhere hello?

[tranquil cradle]

Not really spells are good against like 90% of all bosses in the game.

And that’s an exaggeration

[spiral jungle]

i mean with vengeful spirit and desolate dive yea but abyss shriek aka the best spell

[subtle knoll]

combat: quick focus/carefree + unbstr/shawstone + quickslash + longnail/s.shadow/[grubsong + s.body]

travel: dashmaster + sprintmaster + sharp shadow + unbstr + mop

wayward is for the weak

[storm bolt]

i've seen way too much of these tbh

[tranquil cradle]

Abyss Shriek does like 120 dmg with shaman stone 😭

[copper spruce]

Nothing is stopping you from using both

[subtle knoll]

lowkenuinely during the pure vessel fighjt i snuck in vengeful spirit whenever i could because that much damage for that low soul is insane

[tranquil cradle]

Speedrunners purposely go out of their way to get shaman stone.

[subtle knoll]

yeah its op if you're trying to kill stuff as fast as possible. flukenest too.

[storm bolt]

ddark deals 88 dmg, gives i-frames and has a large hitbox (with shaman)

[copper spruce]

Sharp Shadow

[subtle knoll]

least obvious ragebait

[copper spruce]

needs more raebait

[subtle knoll]

waiter! more ragebait please!

[tranquil cradle]

I speed ran the game and shaman stone carried watcher knights fr.

[subtle knoll]

FUCK WATCHER KNIGHTS

[tranquil cradle]

You could not make it more obvious bro.

[subtle knoll]

they're taking too long

🎃

[unique sandal]

my goat 🩷

[tranquil cradle]

Yes

[storm bolt]

ddark solves all your problems

[proud haven]

W dude
You gonna move on to hitless itemless all bindings blindfolded next?
I thought it wasn't a super big jump when I did it 3 times back to back

[unique sandal]

random name your my hero

[subtle knoll]

lowkenuinely i just spam vengeful spirit when they lined up and go mad aggressive dawg.

[tranquil cradle]

That’s what I did.

Watcher Knights with only VS and shaman stone is pain…

[copper spruce]

No Dive?

[tranquil cradle]

Unfortunately not

[storm bolt]

oof

hot take but i think ddark is just a bit better that shriek

[keen thorn]

Not "a bit"

[subtle knoll]

the humble strength and quickslash

[keen thorn]

A LOT

[storm bolt]

agree

[tranquil cradle]

I was speed running so I didn’t have those charms.

[subtle knoll]

lowkenuinely i just had an idea instilled

[keen thorn]

Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇️ dark 🕶️ gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑 you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰️🅰️ lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇️ dark 🌑

[unique sandal]

Ddark best spell

[keen thorn]

Kiier!!!

[storm bolt]

holy copypasta

[unique sandal]

Genio!!!

[subtle knoll]

ill keep that in mind for lost lace thank you

[tranquil cradle]

In pure dmg? It’s not. But in versatility, I agree it is.

[spiral jungle]

no abyss shriek is

[subtle knoll]

abyss shriek is only really good for markoth and flukemarm

[shrewd nymph]

Okay thats an even crazier statement

[storm bolt]

ummu and radiance

[shrewd nymph]

flukemarm can die before summons in full gear nail only
Markoth is shade soul

[tranquil cradle]

Using abyss shriek for Markoth??? I wouldn’t.

[storm bolt]

the best spell for markoth is not even shriek lol

[subtle knoll]

vengeful spirit is too good

[storm bolt]

its shade

[subtle knoll]

no its vengeful spirit

[tranquil cradle]

But yeah abyss shriek is broken during Abs Rad.

[subtle knoll]

also yall assuming i said that it's the BEST i said it's good for them.

[shrewd nymph]

Eh

its not good for markoth though

[subtle knoll]

base vengeful spirit better

[storm bolt]

saying its only good for those two bosses is hilarious

[subtle knoll]

when i walk into markoth full soul i knock him halfway into phase 2 almost instantly.

and then i use vengeful spirit

[unique sandal]

silly billy that’s incorrect

[shrewd nymph]

Why would you use soul phase 1 and not 2?

[unique sandal]

in my opinion

[storm bolt]

not optimal strat

[shrewd nymph]

phase 2 is harder so you'd wanna skip it

[storm bolt]

use spells in phase 2

[subtle knoll]

my bad i shouldve used vengeful spirit instead

[tranquil cradle]

Abyss shriek also keeps you in the air for a hot minute.

[subtle knoll]

nah you gotta do them in phase 4

[quartz cave]

why did the dmg drop

[storm bolt]

you shouldnt use any spell against him in phase 1

[keen thorn]

Yeah no, let's not say shriek sucks

[shrewd meadow]

70% res enemy

[keen thorn]

It's actually very useful in almost all figjts

[tranquil cradle]

Which is just enough time for a nail to knock you down in Markoth.

[quartz cave]

oh...

[shrewd meadow]

and stygian rotation

[quartz cave]

show furina nuke imo

[shrewd meadow]

no

[quartz cave]

yes

[shrewd meadow]

no

[quartz cave]

yes

[subtle knoll]

my bad y'all i shouldve been using flukenest shaman stone duhhh

[keen thorn]

no

[shrewd meadow]

it's gonna be less dps than just running a skirk team

[quartz cave]

yes but

[shrewd meadow]

and also I already turned off my PC it's 3am

[quartz cave]

its gonna show like 300k dps for half a sec

[quartz cave]

gn

[storm bolt]

cmon its obviously ragebait

[tranquil cradle]

Ragebait is crazy.

[keen thorn]

no

[vale condor]

🐑

[subtle knoll]

im falling for 2 week old ragebait someone said my tierlist sucked because flukenest was mid tier

[keen thorn]

If a spell is better than ddark it's probably flukenest

[subtle knoll]

if you use it right

[proud haven]

Best spell is shriek cuz I use it the most

[storm bolt]

good against white defender and nosk

otherwise idk

[tranquil cradle]

More damage ≠ Better

[shrewd nymph]

Good against basically all bosses

[subtle knoll]

best spell is vengeful spirit / shadesoul because of versatility and practically no charegup,

[copper spruce]

nvm calc is easier than I thought

[keen thorn]

Good against all bosses except Pure Vessel

[copper spruce]

it was a bunch of substitution that was poorly explained

[shrewd nymph]

And thk

[copper spruce]

[keen thorn]

[proud haven]

They all have a "quickspell" button u can use

[storm bolt]

and thk

[shrewd nymph]

I mean it technically works on pv iirc its just bad

[tranquil cradle]

But VS is finished the quickest.

[keen thorn]

No it doesn't, both are immune

[tranquil cradle]

They all have charge up regardless.

[shrewd nymph]

Does it not work when theyre aerial?

[subtle knoll]

i have died dozens of times to ddark's momentary air stall when i needed invincibility.

[proud haven]

Nah it takes a while to fly across the screen, so slow people catch up with it and get on top of it

[keen thorn]

What?

[storm bolt]

shriek is the best spell against radiance anyway

[proud haven]

Try jumping first

[tranquil cradle]

This is true.

[proud haven]

Makes it faster

[keen thorn]

Ddark probably is

[foggy sable]

I swear this is a myth

[proud haven]

No genio it's shriek

[keen thorn]

Plats without ddark is extremely sad

[shrewd nymph]

Is this wrong?

[proud haven]

If u do it from sitting on the ground it sucks

[storm bolt]

in this case i think shriek is

[foggy sable]

because of the movement not the speed of i frames

[subtle knoll]

literally what happens.

jump
ddark
chargeup
spell works
get hit

[keen thorn]

Yeah I tested it, turns out ddarking grounded and aerial both take 14 frames to begin immunity

Actually jumping can be slower because it takes frames to get up

[foggy sable]

Yes, I've frame tested it before

[proud haven]

???????? I never knew people said the iframes lasted less time. I'm not saying that fr I've never heard that

[keen thorn]

Buuuuut, jumping is a big deal of you can't afford to go up

[proud haven]

Had no idea ong

[storm bolt]

dont take dmg

[foggy sable]

pre jumping is usually good because you have better spatial control

[keen thorn]

Yep

[storm bolt]

git gud

[keen thorn]

Ddark

[manic flame]

[copper spruce]

idk why math always gets the shittiest profs

[vale condor]

No, some people say (or said) that you ddark faster by skipping (some of) the wind up animation which moves you up if you start it midair

Which isn't true

[copper spruce]

it took one of the girls from my friendgroup 30 minutes to clear up a 2 week confusion

I'm lowk pissed

it was that simpple

[hard river]

Yo guys im new and im stuck in crystal peak how can i finish it

[copper spruce]

[proud haven]

That's so ass fire red I'm so sorry for you fr

[copper spruce]

sorry about what

[keen thorn]

Sadge

[copper spruce]

talking to girls?

[tranquil cradle]

Go up…

[vale condor]

I will fight you

[storm bolt]

wander around and kill everything that moves

[keen thorn]

Yes, I'm sorry

[copper spruce]

underfunded education system moment

[proud haven]

I assumed it was in like a classroom setting where someone messed up a project or was supposed to be doing something plans wise or something similarly frustrating based on the fact that you got pissed, and the fact that it was like a friendgroup thing
In those instances I'm sorry for you fr
If you just had to talk to a woman I'm slightly less sorry for you

I hear that can be really hard fr

[vale condor]

Some of my favorite professors are math professors I think

But tbf it is obviously a subjective and place-dependant experience

[graceful storm]

When will the Vengefly Kings stop screaming at me?

[copper spruce]

No I mean
my math prof sucks balls at explaining concepts and speed blitz the powerpoint presentations in like
30 minutes

so he barely elaborates on anything

[tranquil cradle]

Imagine being in college.

[storm bolt]

when they no longer breathes

[proud haven]

Sounds a lot like this chem class I took fr super fast like slide clicking through stresses me out cuz I try to write everything down

[copper spruce]

everything?

atp just like

trim the fat

copy shit that's important in the presentation or whatever the prof says

[tranquil cradle]

I’m just in the middle of Physics class and barely paying attention.

[storm bolt]

this isnt hollow knight related but im invested so keep going

[copper spruce]

only positive to the math teacher is that he's chill and delayed the seatwork by 4 days

[magic storm]

Fight me

[tranquil cradle]

My Physics teacher keeps yapping something ‘bout Hertz, and vibration.

[magic storm]

I didn’t even have a math teacher in high school

[vale condor]

👊

[subtle glacier]

my math teacher was my dad

[magic storm]

Did online math

Ended up quitting math in like 11th grade

[tranquil cradle]

My math teacher is lowk really annoying.

[magic storm]

Haven’t done math since

11th grade was 9 years ago I’m getting old

[copper spruce]

what's 1+1

[magic storm]

65

[copper spruce]

Explode

[subtle glacier]

close

[copper spruce]

hi bert

[hidden spire]

Burn..

[tranquil cradle]

I’m in 11th grade lmao, I am child.

[copper spruce]

ok unc

[tranquil cradle]

I’ll be unc in 6 months when I turn 17…

[copper spruce]

unc

[magic storm]

Wait I actually can’t math it was 7 years ago

[copper spruce]

@shrewd nymph found your buddy for the retirement home, unc

[magic storm]

Nvm I’m not old ig

[storm bolt]

that text sounded like how heng talks lol

[idle belfry]

@sick heath tails

[sick heath]

Heartbreaking

[minor jackal]

Fuck markoth

[azure terrace]

Just do p5

[magic storm]

Shut up

[copper spruce]

Huh

[sick heath]

Damn my bad😔

[minor jackal]

I died at PV last time. I'm gonna do it and this is a steel soul save. I did p5 before

[tranquil cradle]

You won’t loose a SS save in GodHome

[magic storm]

Markoth overhated congrats

[tranquil cradle]

It’s a dream realm.

[minor jackal]

Ik that damn well

[magic storm]

I’ve also done 43/44 radiant bosses

[minor jackal]

Markoth is a dickhead

Fuck markoth

[foggy sable]

missing marmu naturally

[tranquil cradle]

I have as well

[magic storm]

Nah nosk

[storm bolt]

the only 2 bosses i havent radiant is markoth and abs rad

[tranquil cradle]

I need Abs Rad

[magic storm]

Congrats on role update

[foggy sable]

nosk is such a weird boss

[wicked kiln]

now all we gotta wait for is the hollow knight mod files

[zealous skiff]

congrats grey

[subtle glacier]

[unique sandal]

gg

[little arch]

Nosk is when Hollow Knight turns into a horror game

[hybrid holly]

I showed up overequipped, dream gate right before the bossfight and knowing the cheese strategy

[magic storm]

You’ve been playing some lame horror games

[subtle arch]

He truly, is the strongest

[hybrid holly]

Is false champion the hardest dream boss

I think that's the only one I haven't done

[foggy sable]

nosk hitboxes is why r2 is the hardest of r1-4

[magic storm]

For me it was

[subtle arch]

well, technically yes, technically no

[storm bolt]

nope, not even close

[vestal cedar]

for me it wasn't

[hybrid holly]

Yeah I tried it on two separate occasions and dipped

[hybrid holly]

What is then

[vestal cedar]

failed champion is the easiest dream boss for me

the hardest for me is soul tyrant

[subtle arch]

Absolute Radiance

[hybrid holly]

That one was easy

[foggy sable]

yes if you don't use the stagger stall

[vestal cedar]

absrad doesn't really count

[hybrid holly]

Overworld

[magic storm]

A lot of people found it easy though

[tranquil cradle]

Hardest IMO is Lost Kin.

[shrewd nymph]

Gng hes double my age

[subtle arch]

but there are no dream bosses in overworld, they are in dream

[hybrid holly]

Idk I found it the hardest, still haven't done it

[storm bolt]

gpz

[vestal cedar]

lost kin isnt that hard

[tranquil cradle]

He’s very fast and unpredictable.

[foggy sable]

(if dream bosses refer here to only the ones that give essence)

[proper wyvern]

F this guy

[subtle arch]

that one guy who dislikes lost kin

[hybrid holly]

Tankface

[vestal cedar]

they get staggered a lot

the only unpredictable thing from lost kin is their jumps

[hybrid holly]

Haven't tried yet

[subtle arch]

nkg?

[shrewd nymph]

Hardest dream boss is nkg, hardest essence giving one is fc without cheese

[magic storm]

A 16 year old is double your age????

[subtle arch]

overworld, needs dream nail

[tranquil cradle]

I never said I disliked him, he’s just the most difficult dream boss.

[shrewd nymph]

Oh i thought he was referring to you doing yr 11 eons ago

[tranquil cradle]

In my opinion.

[storm bolt]

he's not hard once you understand how to counter his moves

[subtle arch]

no someone else

[proper wyvern]

Absrad>>>pv>ngk

[hybrid holly]

Yeah that's what I meant essence giving bosses

[tranquil cradle]

Oh ok

[shrewd nymph]

With fc cheese the hardest is gpz

[subtle arch]

what about radiant markoth

[hybrid holly]

Grimm>false knight

[shrewd nymph]

i mean you could argue gpz either way tbh

[subtle arch]

fc and fly trust me

[shrewd nymph]

Galien A ew

[proper wyvern]

He’s in a list of his own, the black list

[unique sandal]

super cool!

[proper wyvern]

Of bosses who belongs in hell

[proud haven]

Bad list I wouldn't fight any of these bosses

[magic storm]

Very overhated boss

[cinder jackal]

i don't agree with this uumuu placement

[subtle arch]

why is galien in MARMUU! tier

[magic storm]

So true Connor

[shrewd nymph]

Im very bad at galien

[foggy sable]

reasons

[hybrid holly]

In terms of what

[magic storm]

How

[magic storm]

Enjoyment

[shrewd nymph]

But i still think hes bad anyways

[hybrid holly]

Gib

[tranquil cradle]

My Physics teacher yapping smth bout nodes and anti-nodes.

[shrewd nymph]

Constructive destructive or wtv

[wide crown]

Infected crossroads sucks

[storm bolt]

what is oblobbles doing in the highest tier

[proper wyvern]

Agree on umu

[hybrid holly]

Broken vessel over grimm? Really dawg?

[foggy sable]

marmu was the worst but then things happened

[foggy sable]

I like the fight

[foggy sable]

Yes

[shrewd nymph]

Greys favourites is perfect if i close my eyes enough so i cant see bv

[foggy sable]

I like the cascade patterns

[hybrid holly]

This chat is way more wholesome than silksong discussion, I went there and complained about their modding setup and someone told me to zip it up 💀

[proper wyvern]

My guy liked zote?

[hybrid holly]

Give me the tierlistttttt

[foggy sable]

zote is great

[shrewd nymph]

Skdisc is the most chronically online place ive seen in a hot minute

[foggy sable]

except in ab where zote is awful

[magic storm]

Like you should compress the folder?

[proper wyvern]

Zote is p5 is a pain in the ass

[foggy sable]

https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-bosses-51862

[proper wyvern]

Zote umu and markoth were beating annoying

[finite ember]

i agree, along with markoth

[foggy sable]

zote is supremely enjoyable and markoth is also fun

[subtle glacier]

grey tierlist holy

[proper wyvern]

He ended so many runs for me

[foggy sable]

always, as often as possible

[subtle arch]

what are we ranking based on

[storm bolt]

that's on you for saving him

[foggy sable]

enjoyment

[subtle glacier]

talk to me about bv over lk

[subtle arch]

k

[hybrid holly]

I had to do mental gymnastics for a skin, get BepInEx (there's like 20 of them) extract in hk sk files, then inside it go into plugins and get something called customizer and then get another thing called customizerT2D but it comes with a random skin mod you don't use and then you go into silksong data then mods then customizer then you put the skin mod you want

[foggy sable]

I like the cascade attack

[subtle glacier]

[finite ember]

300 essence is still worth it

[foggy sable]

ab or other lower equipment counter for it is very nice

[proper wyvern]

Who knew bro…. Next playthrough I’m jumping him together with the bug

[magic storm]

(I was making a joke on the zip part)

[proper wyvern]

Do difficulty

[storm bolt]

just do the other dream bosses

[foggy sable]

difficulty is not a good ranking in general

[proper wyvern]

Why not? It’s interesting

[subtle glacier]

that’s solid reasoning tbh but with normal damage it is a bit too punishable imo

[foggy sable]

because usually you either are stuck on a boss in which case that one is highly ranked, or you have practiced them for radHoG or whatever and so have done them different amounts

[proper wyvern]

I feel like everybody struggled with the obvious big 3 and there’s always this 1 boss who u randomly had a hard time with for no reason

[foggy sable]

I think I made the list just after all the 04r things

so it is influenced by that

[tranquil cradle]

What backstory???

[frank estuary]

Tbh zote itself is not the problem, the placement is, if you don't save zote it's a big advantage since after markoth it's false champion which is free fight, heal, soul and

[finite ember]

oh wait, nevermind

[tranquil cradle]

Yeah I was mega-confused.

[foggy sable]

I should make a difficulty tierlist imo

[storm bolt]

soul tyrant is the best dream boss imo(not include godhome)

[hybrid holly]

Enjoyment wise

[foggy sable]

interesting

[frozen hull]

@foggy sable

@subtle glacier

[hybrid holly]

Grimm is one of my favs

[foggy sable]

I've just done the grimms a bit too much

[storm bolt]

who doesnt like grimm anyway?

[hybrid holly]

What's the most mid boss ever

In terms of difficulty

Like super average

[storm bolt]

lost kin

[tranquil cradle]

My tier list is kind of the opposite, but that’s mostly bc most of the bosses you haven’t done are my favorites.

[opaque citrus]

wait so there ARE rewards

[hybrid holly]

Yeah nkg looks fun

Pv too

[foggy sable]

please don't tell me it is pv

[magic storm]

Here

[tranquil cradle]

It is

[hybrid holly]

Idk about absrad looks more annoying than fun

[foggy sable]

(because I don't like the boss not that it is bad)

[tranquil cradle]

PV is rlly fun

[subtle arch]

my enjoyment tierlist

[foggy sable]

weird ranking

[hybrid holly]

For flukemarm I pulled up with full soul and shaman stone and beat it with abyss shriek before it spawned the minions 💀

[tranquil cradle]

I also rlly enjoy Abs Rad

[foggy sable]

collector is clearly for low equipment

[storm bolt]

ummu harder than pv is crazy

[foggy sable]

but flukemarm is so low

[magic storm]

I just put stuff in the first tier I thought for them

[foggy sable]

I see

[magic storm]

I found pv to be really easy

[storm bolt]

...ok

[magic storm]

I was much better at the game by the time I fought it

This is about how difficult they were for me

[foggy sable]

(this is why difficulty lists are not a great idea)

[frank estuary]

Not based on difficulty but my love and hate for bosses

[shrewd nymph]

Ranking nkg, fc, pv etc in difficulty is a nightmare 😭

[subtle arch]

Hard and not so repetitive = REALLY FUN
Easy and not so repetitive = Fun
Easy and repetitive = boring
Hard and repetitive = kinda boring

[foggy sable]

correct

[tranquil cradle]

Traitor Lord, Mantis Lords and Hive Knight are all kinda boring.

[foggy sable]

and what about challenge bosses like collector

how should they be ranked

[dapper hare]

Zote in S?

[shrewd nymph]

I mean i just assume full gear but yeah considering AB or lower its impossible

[foggy sable]

should it be godhome bosses or overworld?

[shrewd nymph]

Well more impossible

[quasi oak]

why the knight is so stupid, why it draws it's nail for every swing and even then it carries it on back and not hip. what it even attached to?

[frank estuary]

Yes but I quite enjoyed them on my first play through that I couldn't stop until I beat them

[foggy sable]

because hornet 1 is more difficult in overworld

as is nkg

[frank estuary]

It's a fun fight, only in p5 it's bad cause of placement

[tranquil cradle]

The knight is just built different.

[shrewd nymph]

Nkg is 3rd hardest boss at first but when you learn him hes like ridiculously easy

Just too hard

[magic storm]

I just did it based on my overall experience with the boss not in like a specific time fighting it or challenge

[foggy sable]

it was more rhetoric than criticism

[magic storm]

Which is why collector is so high and flukemarm so low

[frank estuary]

I feel that so much, it.was so hard on my first attempt

[magic storm]

I never really did flukemarm challenges

[quasi oak]

imagine all Quick Slash does is making them draw the damn nail and not seathe

[foggy sable]

I've had to derust p5ab because I've been doing fun challenges recently and it is more painful than ever

[subtle glacier]

fun challenges holy

bingy mentioned

[foggy sable]

truee

[hybrid holly]

In terms on difficulty

[magic storm]

Ew no

[hybrid holly]

Wait mb

Pv and white defender and painter aren't attempted

[magic storm]

As someone that used to be in the bingo server bingo sucks

[foggy sable]

bingy is so good...

[frozen hull]

Bingy

[subtle glacier]

bro hasn’t even done a line

[wooden egret]

The Hollow Knight above pure vessel??

[hybrid holly]

Mistake

[hybrid holly]

Fixed

[subtle glacier]

in bingy server you can do a couple lines or you can blackout

[magic storm]

I literally was in the bingo server

[subtle glacier]

very safe space

[proper wyvern]

Is that the collector next to absrad?

[magic storm]

Yep

[hybrid holly]

Shaman stone and the abyss spells really negate flying bosses

[hybrid holly]

Radiant collector?

[magic storm]

@proper wyvern

[proper wyvern]

My theory was right! Everyone has this boss who whooped their ass for no reason

[frank estuary]

Wait what? Pv on zote level is just... Wow you skilled against pv

[proper wyvern]

For me it was white defender

[hybrid holly]

Mantis Lords was the first real challenge I had in the game and it took me a few sittings to clear them, other than that everything in the game didn't take many attempts

[proper wyvern]

Boy did he beat my ass

[hybrid holly]

I fixed it

[foggy sable]

low equipment collector challenges

[frank estuary]

Ah mb

[subtle glacier]

i know of a video where yis says some choice things about collector

[magic storm]

How do you know about that

You haven’t been around long enough

[subtle glacier]

talk of the town man

[hybrid holly]

Hornet 1 to mantis Lords is a crazy difficulty spike but then honestly the difficulty didn't spike that much for me, maybe only soul master but I got the hang of it fairly quickly

[subtle glacier]

pretty sure 211A unlisted it tho

[magic storm]

Good

That was a past I prefer to forget

[proper wyvern]

Sister of battle not in the ranking?

S tier fight

[hybrid holly]

Didn't beat em yet

[storm bolt]

enjoyment tier list

[foggy sable]

incorrect

[frank estuary]

I got to know this after I beat mantis lords but I think mantis lords is after soul master if I'm not wrong, quirell asks us to go to City first

[hybrid holly]

Dawg you can do mantis lords immediately after mantis claw

Why would you divert that much

[frank estuary]

Ik I did it like that

[hybrid holly]

• soul master is harder

[subtle arch]

personal difficulty tier list

[foggy sable]

some of us didn't see the hole in the floor after hitting the lever so missed mantis lords

[frank estuary]

That's what quirell asks us to do, he tells us to go to City of tears and upgrade our nail first

[hybrid holly]

Quirell tripping

[hybrid holly]

I didn't go into the game blind so I already knew

[subtle glacier]

getting through sanctum on low hp is harder than like
most midgame bosses

[hybrid holly]

I'm going into silksong blind though

[frank estuary]

Tbh mantis lords is considered harder but soul master becomes easy if you finish mantis lords first imo

[hybrid holly]

The fuckers that spawn randomly and follow you everywhere were terrifying

[hybrid holly]

Fr? Soul master is way more feared

[subtle arch]

only like, 6 or 7 soul twister spawns in the sanctum

[frank estuary]

On my first play through, I heard a large noise iirc and when I checked there was hole

[frigid bronze]

67

[subtle glacier]

it is 7 tho

[frank estuary]

I think the way to soul master was harder than the fight itself

[subtle arch]

I couldnt remember if the first one respawns if you reenter, when you first head to the sanctum

[hybrid holly]

I wonder whether to keep going in silksong or to go from 100% to 112% in hollow knight

[subtle glacier]

i wasn’t counting him bc he’s not in sanctum

he’s just outside

but no he doesn’t respawn

[subtle arch]

wait, wheres the 7th one

[hybrid holly]

Soul sanctum is annoying as fuck yeah, and the music brings chills down your spine

[subtle glacier]

two below soul warrior
two in the room to the right of soul warrior
three in hell room

[frank estuary]

I didn't play sk yet, but I completed almost everything except bindings and radiant pantheons

[subtle arch]

its not annoying as much anymore tho, first playthrough they were annoying

[rapid wharf]

Can I get a nitro boost

[frank estuary]

The music is fire

[graceful storm]

hi

geo kalala

[wraith nexus]

Ello

[hybrid holly]

Do you guys pogo on grimm when he does the drill attack, like when he lands one pogo and without going on the floor you turn left and pogo on him again after he does his second attack

[subtle arch]

Hm, mustve forgotten one of the two below soul warrior

[frank estuary]

Yes, I do it all the time

[graceful storm]

gonna be a tiny bit tricky but not too hard

[hybrid holly]

Feels clean

[graceful storm]

thats why i said not too hard

[hybrid holly]

Ye

[graceful storm]

its actually simple

[shrewd nymph]

I just great slash

[graceful storm]

pogoing on grimm during his spikes is also a viable strat too

really ez to pull off

[frank estuary]

It's actually fun to do it that way, on nkg it's becomes a bit tricky tho

[wraith nexus]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one not completed the game

[graceful storm]

cuz u cant pogo his dive cuz of the fire?

his trail?

[subtle arch]

I still havent gotten all achievements, so you;re not alone

[graceful storm]

theres lots of new people

[frank estuary]

Yes but it's possible with practice, I do it all the time

[smoky matrix]

Oh, you can.

[wraith nexus]

I'm here stuck on mantis village

[graceful storm]

how? wait for it to dissipate?

[frigid bronze]

Lock in

[graceful storm]

hes gonna immediately dash afterwards

[smoky matrix]

Yes.

[shrewd nymph]

Huh