#hk-discussion
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ya but hu was especially forgettable for me for whatever reason
Ping pong in queens gardens is fun and actually unique.
yo ddx peep
Bet
Benji never replied unfortunately. this makes me sad he’s like one of the 2 opinions I give a genuine shit about
hey yall, i had a question, how hard should it be to defeat the Hollow Knight (first ending) without using your nail, or any spell except Heal?
Am I the only one who played the game without saving zote..?
are we still arguing over sheo
ya i kinda like marmu
no
i killed that guy myself
def not
LOL
nailless thk?
I’d say more tedious then hard
I've just seen, Every play through save zote,
i want a mod that makes the warrior dream fights more interesting
and I just can't have him stealin my girl Bretta
they don't know what they are getting themselves into
technically its better to let him die since that removes him from p5
its an achievement, so anyone who has all of them has as well
more tedious than hard. sshadow + like sporeshroom and minions
ur good
thats why a 2nd try exits
wow actually only 7.4% of people on steam have the neglect (leave zote) achievement
Ferb, I got a terrible idea
i thought it would be at least 20
Fr!
consider all that quit in crossroads
Sharp Shadow, Weaversong, Dash Master, and Grubsong
Destroying bugs with the power of healing is certainly one way to beat Hollow Knight.
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hk souless exists as well
i guess you just exist in that playthrough
I left him in my first playthrough i didn't even see him until i finished the game
So it's practically only me
its a Sample vid, quit interesting
And like 1 other dude
Playing with his head is fun though
ya i forgot steam counts achievment % for people who refunded and ofc the people who just stopped playing
what am I?
can somone help me out with hollow knight
Yup
the rivalry achievement is only like 25% so its not a crazy difference
… shouldve seen that coning
with?
Just me and you, buddy!
getting past the boss lost kin
what about it
ok
be careful of spoilers here
unless u dont care
k
Although I would recommend just trial and error
If u have a spawn charm or crest, that’ll help
play reactive, not trying to force the fight tempo
dont let the balloons stack up
Helps you level up your playing abilities, and being able to handle dying a sh!t ton
at least that's what I did
i only have a few charms the ones im using are the one where you get sould when you get hit and the life blood charm
Oh!
when you get hit you get soul*
alr, just focus on the last 2 points I said then
-# glanced at the hole in my wall
act 2 silksong doesnt cut u off from anything right?
i tried that but then he jst kills me
sk disc || no it doesnt||
oh didnt realize there was one mb
u good
i try to kill the bubble guys while im dodging and get hits in while im not
also use dive if you feel pressured
for example if he does his dash/lunge u could jump it and kill one of the dudes in the air same jump
I wish hk parries were better
ya couldve been really fun
the boss im on in hollow knight is a modded boss called infinity and he telegraphs all his parries
its so fun
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gender vessels correctly challenge impossible difficulty
anyways, try purity. get on that one instead it’s top 1 modded bosses
Dashmaster:
the utility being speed is fairly situational (but not useless), the problem is once you can use it effectively you’re also good enough to not need to spend the notches. I think this does nothing.
SShadow: notch competition is a big thing for all of these, including sharp shadow. Besides the fact that a longer shade dash is actually a downside in most cases (dashing back and shading forward is ideally neutral position) the dealt damage is negligible - but that’s on purpose. TCs best design philosophy is to reward aggression.
Shade dashing is a safety tool. They want to make it more aggressive but they didn’t want to violate that philosophy. The problem is it’s limbo - not that it’s too expensive.
I suggest sharp shadow remove or lessen the defensive utility of shade dashing, in exchange for aggressive utility.
Shaman is fine, it’s balanced by the fact that spells are inherently skill based tools with risk and reward balance behind them (not using soul to heal). Shaman also has the least effect on the most problematic spell: Ddark. No issues with it.
Fluke: fluke just needs to be correctly reworked into a close range exclusive spell. A sideways abyss shriek. Bugfix would be great yeah.
Strength: okay yes this charm is boring as an unbreakable, but since all the other 3 notches exist- it actually loses out in some cases. Ideally you just mildly nerf its damage buff - but other things that require more thought become more useful. (ie good balance).
Sprintmaster: yes I love it
Thorns: they more or less actually did this in silksong.
Womb: autospellcasting is boring but not bad design. TC’s idea was “in exchange for not taking a risk and some damage, you get consistency”
So it’s “”balanced”” but not interesting. Not sure what the goal for the ideal meta would be.
But keep in mind that active input is always ideally more successful/powerful than passive input.
Weavers+grimmchild: see womb. But yeah weavers suck.
NMG: busted but I like it 💅
goodness
I’ve been trying them
hate love them
Not done yet but overall fun ideas
is infinity not a dude?
Uhm guys....!!!!! Would yall still play hk if the knight was a worm......?
????????
will do
if they were a wyrm yes i would
not for u
pv gets referred to with it/its??? all of them do???
they/them
You are free to wither in ignorance but leave my notifications out of it
it/they
they/them
I hate soul tyrant😭
Yo what is the noise doing✌️
oh ive seen so many people call hollow knight a he i just thought they were
no people are just bad with pronouns
understood
will respond without pinging
ig so
i LOVE soul tyrant
soul tyrant is good
soul tyrant is really fun
I love the gambling I get to do with him
hollow knight but you play as hollow knight (at full size)
enjoy being stuck
He is not he
10000 IQ
prob my favorite dream fight
just teleport
huh?
actually i thought of a real solution
mechanic where you can transform into a weaker but smaller child form
i think u misread what i typed or im misunderstanding what ur tryna say
Pv is genderless
its most likely the latter
they’re just restating what u said
ya ik
He isn't even a living being
PV is WOKE RAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Technically
I suppose
is in HK anyone really alive
is that right?
Hmm
White lady
i said i thought they were
And that's bout it
what are attuned and ascended for the godhome bosses?
different difficulty options basically
im a little dazzled here
You misunderstood, don't worry about it bro
attuned is regular difficulty and ascended is double damage iirc
oh alr
So highly coated in those type of thoughts that she needed to bind them
Attuned is normal ascended is double damage + environmental changes on the arena sometimes
ascended also changes the arena and has increased health
ty
how was this not flagged as spam?
yes this too
wdym
attuned is the base difficulty, ascended is double damage, more boss health, sometimes extra hazards, radiant is one hit
Too sigma for your auto mod
I also disagree with dmaster. I think it provides a lot of good shit that nothing else in the game provides and you only benefit from it the better you are. though note that I’m also including stuff like modded bosses in my viewpoint
It's meaningful
ascended gurz mother just killed me 😭 holy locked out
that’s one of the opinions I’ve heard for quite a bit of time, and it’s only gotten stronger as I’ve played without strength and therefore have fucking space to slot it in god kill strength
statement so sigma even the ai supported them
What purpose does dmaster have for base game that ddark can't do
I’m afraid I already know ur answer, but do you recommend not playing with strength equiped
actually moving
so to list a few times dash can be more useful then ddark:
AbsRad
PV
No Eyes
Narckoth
Uumuu
wat is ddark
https://youtube.com/shorts/sIOOzLHOFNE?si=9yZtE0Q-Mpixzi9c
This should be vanilla imo
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upgraded down spell
the sshadow philosophy is interesting. I didn’t consider doing that. I like keeping the longer dash because I think it’s unique and does have genuine reason to run sometimes (dodging utility and chasing guys some guys) but I am interested in hearing any potential sshadow changes you’d make? to like get the picture
charm would be too busted
Yeah
yes
Fury of fallen would become useless
just stack them
hi
"Path of Pain is too hard" my brother in christ i saw someone beat it while being chased by 50 primal aspids
Yeah just thought abt that
wsg cro
I’ve beaten it with all minion charms
twice
hi hru
got a 3 day weekend so I’m quite fine
in fact, stacking them is actually insanely good, it almost triples your damage
on another note I’m glad you fuck with the nmg change. it’s busted as hell but goddamn it would be so so so fun to build around
what nmg changes
mop: I like the idea of MoP+strength synergy, not the idea of MoP+strength antisynergy. A longer tip is strong enough if you stick with the idea of a sweetspot, especially since I think MoP was already fine
Heart: creative ass way to make more passive playstyles feel spicy. I like it a lot.
DF: utter insanity. Do not buff the double heal value charm - it’s genuinely already good. The only thing holding it back is the existence of stronger, aggressive options. Maybe if you want it to be a godhome charm, have it change its effect entirely. Go crazy, like making bosses have no contact damage for x seconds after healing.
Hive: very reasonable buff but I still think you should be careful when throwing out ideas for making passive charms less notch intensive - those high costs are all intentional to encourage use of active effects - so if you wanna change a passive charm then make it include some kind of active element. Like a damage based condition for regenerating.
Carefree: neat idea, no comment besides that it might be super crazy on low hp bosses. No damage taken also means no soul spent. That’s iframe value you want to use, as opposed to masks you want to manage.
Sporeshroom: aoe damage in the bossfight mode is inevitably more or less useless. So while it doesn’t fix the issue, I do think it makes it useful for minion fights.
Heavy blow: interesting but I’d have expected a stagger synergy. KB can actually be insane though so yeah interesting enough for me.
Dshield: that’s really cool, I love it. But add a soul refund - otherwise it’s just worse Ddark.
LB: that’s fair, though maybe make it an inbetween for heart and carefree. Start every fight with +2/3 lifeblood. Maybe lower those numbers (or add a skill based condition!) so people don’t farm easy bosses and then get like 24 hp lol. Hitlessing a fight in exchange for bonus lifeblood is something I’ve liked the idea of for a long time - for example.
Dcrest: why buff the best charm
I peeped it
suggested charm changes
Nail arts are “fine” but nobody uses them so yeah, fuck it
oh i thought you were talking about nightmare king grimm for some reason
nightmare ming grimm
I just beat path of pain on my first ever try in like less than 45 minutes, do people just exaggerate the difficulty of it?
yesnt
some people find it that hard
I guess
Back to Litwick, Duolingo?
uhh the thing with hblow was just like we had no idea how to make it good in an interesting way, so we at least gave it an interesting effect
typically going into it thinking it’s gonna suck means u’ll be overall less pained then those who went in thinking they’d be fine
What charms are so bad coming up with a way of making them good is impossible 
actually lemme peep the changes and ill tell you what i think as well
I like the idea of sharp shadow being riskier, not safer and a tiny bit more aggressive - while being counterintuitive.
So an idea would be that you don’t get Iframes UNLESS you are also dealing dash damage.
This is the simplest change and imo would be really effective, especially if the damage wasn’t horrible.
flukenest shaman stone is rllly fun
unbreakable greed ?
True, but I wasn’t pained lol the only difficultish part was the part 2 safe platforms before the last section
what are you cooking??
oh I agree it does feel counterintuitive
mind you im not an expert of hollow knight by any means, im just gonna give me thoughts
interesting change though
Sharp Shadow gets banished to Godhome Hell
I agree

yeah it needs good dmg for that to function
Not your changes for the record - base sharp shadow is counterintuitive
Sharp Shadow sucks
but would make me equip sharp shadow so I say its gas
Hot take I'm aware
yeaa we agree
but I stand by it
Gas gas gas
To be honest that change to SS was pretty creative
I do like the dash distance though it’s neat. maybe you give it another effect that isnt raw dmg? but unsure
I need to go back and read your stuff you sent inbetween walls hold on
this appearing as Metallic Madness P Mix played lol
do i need to beat nkg to unlock in godhome? i see where on tmg's pedestal i would activate it and other bosses that could switch didnt need me to beat the other version
@knotty ravine im curious how would you fix some of the bad charm synergies like defender's flukenest
Beat or Banish him
Modded bosses changes things, but I still think dmaster is overall underwhelming for its notch cost. If you want to lock a lot of utility behind that much effort, then imo that’s NMG territory and it’s a 1 notch.
I think one notch dmaster is also entirely fair
well I think an obvious change would be to make it do mote damage than normal flukes but thats too obvious
but I do think it’s balanced at 2 notches, just that there’s other shit in the game (STRENGTH) that kills your charms
It’s really difficult to suggest changes because of how strong shade dash can be and already is.
this is kinda random but it'd be cool if it was like a cluster bomb that exploded into a bunch of lil flukes
but then how to make sprintmaster good in comparison?
Make it work in the air
yeahhh
shit cluster bomb
I say this literally
i think a pretty simple way to fix dreamshield somewhat is to just give you two shields like markoth
also I forgot to respond to the strength comment. I disagree that it loses out sometimes
honestly every defender's crest synergy needs to be fixed they all suck
Mostly in comparison to quickslash.
The thing is you can just use both
it effectively never loses out unless you’re doing very specific stuff, and even if we just nerfed the dmg increase I would still disdain the charm because it’s just fucking boring
or make it rotate towards danger like Markoths
or make it not disappear after hittting a target, like Markoths
So unless qslash is part of a soul-related build, either for healing or casting, qslash is paired with strength
which is why we’re making that charm marth
spore shroom + dcrest sinergy is not that bad
markoth just got the better dreamshield lol
we fucking hate strength as it is lol
how to make Dreamshield better: give us Markoth’s
honestly, just remove unbreakable strength, its impossible to balance well
who other than you
Or make it a crazy tradeoff. If something is worth losing swing speed for its base nail damage
I’d love a strength concept that makes nail arts really strong
idea: replace strength with Ascendants Rage. Nail damage goes up by 0.5 times for every hit gotten without getting hit
i think having a double dreamshield is a bit too op, maybe having it rotating slightky faster and regenerating faster would be better
my bestie who is also very good and we made the shit together
Grubmother?
I think Strength is pretty good
honestly this is something I’d do
in an ideal world I’d do this
I’d prefer to change its effect but if I only had a single change to charms I could make I would delete strength
weaverlings may be my bois but even I can recognize they suck 🫠
im sorry that was mean
ascended soul master pmo
this is interesting. we went with the tipper thing to make mainly nail stuff better, now that nmg is also in the hideo gamr
just stagger and gamble
literally the only thing i can think of to make joni's better is just double your health and turn it into lifeblood or something
ascended vengefly king is just 2 of them?? 😭
let its interaction with hiveblood add any additional lifeblood as joni hive blood masks
baldur's shell sounds cool but 4 hits and then you need to eep is just ugh
ur vitals are lifehiveblood let all lifeblood become lifehiveblood
make it regenerate or something
If you make facetaking with qslash+strength bad you open up so many alternate playstyles. Nail arts are one of those, and would compete with spellcasting+heal builds by getting massive damage from small opportunities. Strength buffing nail damage for a downside could buff nail arts, while also making swing speed (soul generation) worse
oh I just got to lbcore . actually a really neat idea
how much hp does vengfly king have?
Your idea for qslash is nice, but unfortunately it’s the exact same nail build lol. Qslash+strength+MoP and you more or less facetank, maybe tiptoe distance a little bit
Yeah pantheon specific effects are an option now that we’re locked to godhome
i hate the charms that are just "x charm but with better stats" its so lame
I like the hitless condition. i do want to keep one of the lifeblood charms though I think, probably lbcore cuz i think it has a decent enough use, and make lbheart the hitless condition
That’s fair
There is one issue though
So ideally that works really great for the “get hit” builds
longnail is already a lil boring, still good, but then the game just gives you longnail 2
But the problem is if you can hitless bosses consistently, you don’t need lifeblood lol
So I basically just reinvented hiveblood with that LB idea
The fix would honestly depend on how you want to make heart synergies work
same with lifeblood heart and core and arguably fury of the fallen and strength
this fr feels like 2 people talking and then 3 small kids are just nearby
You’re free to chime in
I know
but I lack any good ideas
i like contributing even though my ideas are probably awful
guess what, im makiing a silksong level in geometry dash
Maybe make it a snowball thing. You get one extra mask per fight, and for every hitless fight you gain 1 mask on top of that bonus mask. If you take a hit in a fight, your next fight has one less starting mask.
Go for it
there is, rate guys
how does the damage for thorns of agony work
Static but is affected by shaman allegedly. Idk, check the wiki
Best ideas I have are for charms I often use
Weaverlings apply a slow effect to enemies they hit
womb having a hiveblood effect on aspids and also having better accuracy
defenders crest leading enemies to de aggro
okay wow that is uh awful
either make it not waste your i frames or make it deal the same damage as your nail
Womb has perfect accuracy tho
They fixed it for silksong. Taking damage creates a ice sculpture that explodes if the boss touches it
considering I managed to get through PoP with out them landing a single hit, perfect accuracy is far from what I’d describe them as having
Doesn’t change your iframes at all, not useless for projectile damage
Swilsong
But path of pain is a platforming area
and womb spawns homing projectiles
id like womb if it didn't waste your soul
regardless, my idea of better accuracy is them choosing the enemy with more hp remaining
smarter ai would be nice yeah
so they’d do more chip damage then active assult
okay so ig idea for womb to make it a bit more in line with weaversong
no longer costs soul, but spawns hatchlings like half as often
Grimmchild having smarter ai as it grows would also be interesting
as a baby it follows you
stage 2 it stays nearby
stage 3 it stays on screen
stage 4 it acts on its own
The goal is for it to help you deal spell damage without casting spells. All the minion charms trade notches in exchange for inaccurate, but passive ways to deal damage
Grimmchild and weaversong are both balanced around their inaccuracy
fair
Womb costs soul but has better accuracy with its moderate damage
all 3 options are boring, but intentionally weak
ig, womb is just not very good still
but 3 hp per hit is still sad
Imagine if the strongest playstyle option was to watch minions win
surely 5 wouldnt have been overkill
its basically just there to be paired with grubsong
Passive options are intentionally weaker. They’re meant to exist if you want them- but encourage you to learn to play differently
Deepfocus is a good example
ik but even compared to other passive options, womb just feels...lacking?
Great for platforming, but they explicitly didn’t want people fighting bosses with double healing
thats cuz it lacks any good charm combos
as for grimmchild it straight up just doesnt need any
grimmchild was probably made bad on purpose because its supposed to add challenge to the grimm fights
8 soul, 9 damage.
33 soul gets you a 30 damage shadesoul.
not really?
the exchange rate is not very far off
not to mention the hatchlings have to spawn in which takes time
Man, there's a boss before the Soul Master, and I absolutely hate that boss.
Except shadesoul can hit multiple times, your nail can deal up to 31 damage (no fury), and shadesoul is the lowest damage spell

in 16 seconds i feel like you could build up enough soul for a second spell
in a vacuum, it would be
was getting to that, but it seems you managed to reach it up there for me
yeah exactly lol
You’ll be fine, the game is trying to teach you to react to teleporting enemies.
Soul Warrior
hello grubmother
hi, we're talking about charm balancing
Yo
Joni's....
Consider this: casting shade soul (or any spell) and not missing
more like belongs in the trash
And it doesn’t cost you 2 notches
Joni's trashcan
what do you guys think is like the bottom 10 worst charms
if only the minion charms were descent in practice and not in a vacuum
thorns
like all bottom 9 spots are thorns and then 10th is hblow
heavy blow is very slightly better after godhome, it makes staggering bosses faster
hence why its only 10th
grimmchild is like bottom 3 since getting it means you miss out on the quite good carefree melody
10: glowing womb
9: thorns of agony
8: gathering swarm
7: greed
6: Joni's blessing
5: hiveblood
4: deepfocus
3: heavy blow
2: kings soul
1: grimm child
(1 is the best)
I'm fighting a knight who stands before the master of souls, what an annoying creature.
this is where i watched chat die, parappa
Soul warrior?
I love how we both references something similar
I think that's it.
Mustve been tough
Yes, can you give me some advice?
2 of those are exploration and one is lore focused
He's very fast, he broke all my possible strategies...
why cant i enter white palace
I'm truly afraid of the master of souls.
When he dashes jump over him and pogo him
How much essence do you have
overcharming doesnt do anything when doing radiant right?
kings soul is def disappointing
5 notches? for a charm you can't even keep with most of the endings?
We said worst charms, not worst combat charms
my actual rating is
10) Hblow: only really useful for godhome, and even still its too niche
9) Sprintmaster: Its outclassed before u even get it
8) Weaversong: Doesnt do much of anything
7) Grimmchild: Has an active cost to getting it. Then again I’m not a big fan of melody
6) Womb: Actively fucks with you
5) dCrest: Is only useful for 1 fight and then no where else
4) Thorns: actively fucks with you, but worse
3) Dshield: 3 notches for a “shield” that rarely blocks shit and disappears if it hits something
2) Strength: Its too overconsuming, forces itself onto you, and then wont leave. Like the ex u never want
- Grubberfly’s elegy: Does half damage, requires max or one hp to even do something, and then doesnt even help all to much
Yes its recommended
I do this
basically
oml do i need awk dream nail
grubberfly's elegy is for radiant difficulty
Which part are you struggling on
Yes
With the fireballs, and when he jumps on top of you, etc.
also come on, even if you hate strength, you're actually delusional if you think its bad
566 essence how much more (beat marmu, gorb, xero)
"Like the ex you never want" 😭
I know, but it honestly prolongs the fight most of the time. Unless u were already planning on not touching the boss, it doesnt help
Nobody thinks it’s bad surely
Am i wrong
i think deepfocus, lifeblood core, fury, and shape of unn (not counting carefree melody bc i never got it) are genuinely the only charms i have never used for any reason whatsoever
You need 1800 
its a safe option to deal some moderate damage
holy crap radiant is hard
Deepfocus makes platforming and exploring dangerous areas cakewalks
When he dashes over you dash to the side
Other ones are yeah
true but i couldnt get around the 4 notch cost
And try to jump over the fireballs
How is spell twister "not that steong"?
How is shape of unn higher than grubsong and soul eater?
How is LONG NAIL higher than spell twister cries
While platforming? 
-# you are as right as yiu damm can
for exploring
What type of gameplay should I adopt against him? Defensive or offensive?
as a strength user, I can say strength is too meta
reactive
actually you need 2400
I agree with everything on this tier list
What?
What was your favourite from soul master, broken vessel, false knight or dung defender
and dedicated the rest to kingsmould disintegration
Slight bonus to spell economy > the means to make your soul economy better.
Also you need to read the tier descriptions
bc paranoia
wait to see what he’s gonna do, and act accordingly
when he’s just moving, harass him
Long nail, in ant given case, is worse than spell twister
I would say offensive and try and kill him as quickly as you can
shape of unn placement is a little questionable but the others make sense to me
You dont get much heal window
Ty, I'll try.
False @kind sigil it is 1800 for awakened dreamnail
Longnail can replace every Mark of pride usecase if you have godlike positioning. It’s really sweet.
do i do lost kin and failed champ
you need 2400 for an achievement
Yes but they want white palace
if you have good enough positioning, you don't need longnail either, so i feel like that point is moot
ill get that achievement
later
honestly getting 1800 essence is just kill all 3 rematch fights and then a few warrior dreams
Twister more or less has zero effect if you don’t regularly go below one soul charge. Since you can manage most builds with a soul surplus, twister is honestly more of a speedrun charm than a general “I’m trying to win” charm
didnt they originally plan for ancient basin to be part of deepnest
or was that kedge
No, because things that are and are not possible with and without Longnail are what that would focus on
what would be the most DISRESPECTFUL way to beat The Radiance?
I beat her with a pogo.
Just a lil
BAP
Kedge
I feel like twister is a baby shaman in the same way catcher is a baby eater
Bonus hits between boss slash conbo hits for example
cdash
as far as im concerned, longnail and mark of pride are mostly interchangeable
Twister is for shadesoul spam more than anything
yo someone i dont care here pick a number within the realm of 1 and 34
Which is why LN is where it is. It can replace the uses of MoP
A.... Baby eater?

i need to kill one more lightseed. one more. and ill have its entry.
Soul eater
baby soul eater
babies dont taste good
True
False
just use the one in kings pass
9 is more convenient than 2
Lightseed was like the second last entry i completed
Your revulsion to destiny will be your undoing
… as in false that babies dont taste good?
im abt to do lost kin
also why is steady body and nailmaster's glory there twice
is it hard the first time
go in expecting a challenge
damn no heals?
Maybe use spore shroom if you maybe want a chance to heal
Or defenders crest
I got to radiance 6th phase today
Outside of staggers probably not.
More importantly you should get to a point where you don’t need to. The boss eill eventually be very easy to kite around the arena
And I got to Zote in p5, pb
Absrad?
nice
dream wielder a good charm for it?
The Rad doesn't have a 6th phase
Not really needed
Ik
Which boss?
it'd be funny if someone made a pantheon of absolution
p5 but every boss gets the absrad treatment
if u wanna leave when u want, yes
if u think ur gonna be able to dream nail them, yes
Lost kin
Lost Kin.
LK
For some bosses
Its good for lost kin
Other than that its useless
Check context dumbass
this is specifically for Lost Kin
Average deltarune server member
indirect damage taken
Yogurt
Self damage too
You wouldn't know hes in the deltarune server unless you were yourself
i will never use defenders crest
goyurt
Trust me bro
no
You are also in the fortnite and geometry dash server
don't listen to him, he likes being stinky
Yes I Know
he has a dr server tag
Oh yeah
I don't even know why I am in those servers actually
Dude I'm so mad I just no hit markoth in pantheon 5 but I have yet to successfully do it at the statue after trying for mad long
use grubberfly's elegy
Trust me lost kin spawns summons every 1-2 seconds its worth it if you want to heal
I havent played either since a very long time
that's kinda what all of hallownest enhanced does
Still deltarune discord server is trash
Statue has 50% more hp so don't feel too bad
Use spore shroom at least
Didn't know that lowk
If you refer to Kris as he accidentally the whole server jumps you
but the fact you sitll nohit him means you can do it
Allright dont get to heal then
don't be dissapointed
No... No, I don't think I will.
just like this server whenever you gender the knight lol
buddy don't start
Never happened to me
You could just, hit them? Take the soul to deal more dmg too
😭 🔥
"if you want to heal"
good
i dont like how the knight takes 2 masks sometimes, like are his- ahem ahem, their masks that weak
And then the stagger ends before you can heal
Refer to kris correctly
He was joking
I’ve done it lol, he staggers so i immediately run to the blimp, hit it and heal right there
Hi, I'm Kris, and my pronouns are They/Them
And then another one spawns
In the pantheons i just kill him as quickly as possible
Me too
After you heal so it doenst matter 😭
I prefer this
Havent gotten to him in p5
Before you heal actually
Keep dying to fucking sly
Descending dark
And it makes it slow ass way to you 😭
Wdym slow ass?
just stop dying
ddark is a waste in sly
The balloons are the speed of a missile
Healing in lost kin is not a long last art, you don’t need crest for it
Last phase
But it helps
Sly is the worst boss in the game
Heavy disagree
And hes right after wosk
alr time to attempt lk
Winged nosk >>>>> nosk
I mean it’s one slot so I guess? But I’d rather use steady body
I hate normal nosk
Parry the fucker
i wanted to avoid charms nerfing other things about tk, as it just starts getting really confusing and weird
Its fine because you can cheese it
It's still bad
And the ascended arena exists
I did think about for the tipper thing, anything that wasn’t the tipper hit would do like .75 nail damage (arbitrary value for demonstration)
You dont have to do it in p5 though
neither nosk or winged nosk are bad to me
I'd rather do winged nosk than it
though I guess that raises the same problem if you’re good enough
Exactly
Winged nosk isnt too bad
Just retextured vengefly king
With a new attack
2
Just do this with proper follow ups, he’s dead in no time
The Nightmare King has arrived!!
-# Requested Pings: @inland pagoda @tacit spear
Did I cook?
Lovely
i think I see the vision I think I wouldn’t make df two but I think three works
They are the same attack from different angles
though maybe I’d have to consider that within the next context of the charms
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Load it then
One is bullshit to dodge
im glad dream bosses have basically no runback
How
Lost kin still has the worst one out of the 3
Guess what's next, lads...
theres a pretty big runback skip
just jump down and pogo off the arena
The side one?
that gets you to the arena quicker
The top one, obviously
Still the worst
HE IS NEXT CHAT!!!
The top one is easy to dodge
ASCEND ASCEND ASCEND WITH GORB
It's annoying if anything
oh coolio gorbus is here
Gmcb
Ooooooohhhhhhinhoooo
-Gorb, the Gorb
"I am Gorb!" ~ Gorb 2017
Afternoon
Night
Wait was hk released 2017 or 2018
17
should i just go for a spell build since im gonna be spamming ddark in lost kin when i can
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17
Guess you could say 15
Aight

Gorb probably existed in 15
woah how long has it been since we requested it? anyways you cooked
Favorite boss of y'all?
mantis lords
Pure vessel Ofc
"Only the mantis lords?"
Soul tyrant, pv, nkg, sob
definitely lost kin, would do radiant 100 more times because i love him THAT much
and grimm too
Sure
valid
valid
copycat
aura
valid
copycat
damn
I love showing off
Hear me out again
Watcher Knights
Fair
Sure
yes
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
alr, fuck it
give me charm combo ideas
None
wayward solo
Joni's blessing, quick focus, deep focus and thorns of agony
...
-# why do I repediately expect much from here
Thorns, grubsong, glowing womb, sharp shadow, kingsoul
heavy blow. deep focus. dream shield. grimmchild.
Anti synergy 😭
defender's crest, flukenest, spore shroom, glowing womb
Okay now fr
Quick Slash, strength, steady, long nail and either spell twister or unbreakable heart
is current patch flukenest useless?
Worse than charmless
That has synergy at least
shidding and farding strats go
Still worse than normal shade shoul
they never fixed it
more like anti synergy
Is it
Stinky synergy
what's the tastiest bug in hallownest
hitboxes still linger?
Less damage iirc
The one that's edible
You
flukemarm
im not a bug sir
gonna go with Ooma's
though grubs and vessels are a close second
Uomas are probably tastier
jellyfish gon explode in ur mouth tho
That's why uomas are better
they still explode tho right
Tryin to build without strength, and had a spare slot, so I fit in sprintmaster
js smol
Not for long
excuse me.
yes?
what are you gonna do to me😨
Compress you
I did, anyways what you wish to mention?
id say the hivelings since the hunters journal says they have honey in them
Goes hars 🔥✍️
the chamrs.
"Goes hars" gose hard
got them from the mimikyu skin
Does anyone know all of zotes titles, like the stuff you see at the start of his fight?
its just qs, sbody, twister, health, longnail, and sprintmaster
i hate that zote is so masculine
Using no shaman in that build is a crime
U gave it to me
You didn't use the main thing
Strength
It's supposed to be a nail build
I would, but I'm trying to build without strength
W H Y
Use shaman then
sonia said to
Somewhere idk overcharm
@knotty ravine Why
notorius strength hater
How can one hate unbreakable strenght
invincible, fearless, sensual, mysterious, enchanting, vigorous, diligent, overwhelming, gorgeous, passionate, terrifying, beautiful, powerful, grey prince zote
It's just more damage
You mean the Invincible Fearless Sensual Mysterious Enchanting Vigorous Diligent Overwhelming Gorgeous Passionate Terrifying Beautiful Powerful Grey Prince Zote
MAHHH MA ME MA
alr who to try the build on
zote 
Watcher knights are the best dummy boss in the game
but wouldn't you rather turn zote into pulp
ughhh i hate sly p3 so much
If anything use that build in the eternal ordeal
Wdym by dummy
failed champion is too easy
or the eternal ordeal
alr almost beat ascended GPZ
just not used to sbody
thats... the point
lost kin
Exactly
He is annoying radiant
Too many staggers
im using this charm loadout on p3 the only one i struggle on is sly phase 2
yes. no strength, no quick slash, no shaman, no flukenest
What is the thought behind this
alr I got em
just had to get used to sbody and qs turn around cancels
Got what
ultimate face tank
asc. gpz
hi
Tank build in hk
im so happy i didnt fight gpz so i dont gotta do him in pantheon
no but like its actually good
for p3
sorry, you're NOT a true warrior
You're gonna get hit in markoth
Try baldurs for tank mayb
Likely
Over unn
no if i fight him he would break up with bretta and i cant let that happen to zote
🔥
its only 4 hits every bench, not worth it
he deserves it
unn and quick slash have a synergy where you can zoom
zote is my goat
*quick focus
yea
zote is my boat 
I see why people like qs
but it's so fum 🥹
turn around cancels are fun
Why are you steve
lava chicken\
chat i finally got back my pc after 80 days :D
anyways anyone else got charm combo + boss reccs
do i finish all hk achievements
Yes
if u feel like it, sure
What do you not have
sharpshadow + avg nail build
lemme check
u gonna elaborate?
enjoy 100% steel soul = )
No
no
... got a boss in mind?
expected
i wish sharp shadow turned your crystal dash into a big shadow dash
that would be fun
If only😔
alr this build ok
(QS, sbody, longnail, sshadow, mop)
I'm not using strength for these btw
whats the funnest charm, not the best charm, it can be absolute dogshit but what is the funnest charm in your opinion? i have to say mine is grubberflies elegy
Happy Couple
Banishment
Passing of the age
True Hunter
Keen Hunter
100% in 20hrs
steelsoul 100%
@blissful thistle
what the goofy ass is wrong with your charms bro
Ty for not changing sshadow design
oh thought they were diff mods for each skin
Mimikyu skin mod
dont thank me, thank the skin maker
Why have you not gotten passing of the age
why is one just a very poor drawing
The thorn charm honestly, I love how enemies just get slapped after hitting you
My goat mr mushroom
don't look at me

yea thats fun
Yeah
aspid zote
i wish sheo and nailsmith gave you a charm after becoming a couple, something like paintsmiths pride (pride cuz they are like gay yk)
Just shriek him once
Maybe the mask guys in deepnest
I would have to say the knight watchers
I hate them
Imo it's the red guys in city
Eo doesn't count
Knight watchers
Nah those guys are easy
Are a boss
wait ur counting bosses???
they are really hard but id say the guys in colo 3 that just do the attacck that uumuu does
Why not
cuz i did p5 and radhog in under 110 hours
Oh you meant enemies in general?
Because
almost got em first try, gonna exchange mop for double masters
If we're counting bosses then it's absolutely absolute radiance
Yes
bro i found the collector harder then them and i had a worse nail when fighting watcher knights
P5 is the only achievement im missing
I would have to say the infected husks in the infected crossroads
Markoth pantheon isn't like hard to kill
p*ntheon 5
I’m still fighting the collector😭
It's just hard to get out healthy
5
Those guys are slow and fat
bro im dreading p5 so much
Yes, it isn't hard to kill as I said
All it took for me to beat p5 was undertale music
Everything was free bc of th3 undertale music trust
nice. u not far
Yeah but like when I’m tryna chill they pull up from nowhere and explode
But gods and glory is a banger
infected husks are easy as fuck just double jump
it fills you with DETERMINATION
but it's not The Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans or Finale
bro the hardest enemy in the game are lifeblood seeds, prove me wrong
It's better than that
the goams bc u can't kill them
hopes and dreams?
Yeah when I’m aware then they’re easy but when I’m unaware they suck yk?
Light seeds are harder because they are harder
And they have a mind to think
nvm macebug is harder
I died to sly both times i tried p5
doesnt even give you soul
Hey so sandstorm lands is where the god seekers come from right?
plode
explode
Probably
sly is such a little bitch
it goes on too long imo
its only like 3 or 4 bosses in p5 that are hard bro. u can do it
Idk dude ask the lore channel
The what ?
Like what (other than sly)
All toby songs get repetitive quickly
I died 2 hits away from beating PV
gonna record this fight tho
Ohh
Gruz mother
broo sheo tricked me
bro i thought that uumuu in the pantheons was hard for way longer then id like to admit 😭
Hi acid
Hello
It's because his attacks are not straight
yes but hopes n dreams js drags it on so much longer for me
it's like 2x the average length of each ost
sheo should deadass be in pantheon one and oro and mato should be in pantheon two
The average OST is a sound effect
Surprised you didnt say elder hu
Sols
I was kidding
Rng
Nine
Ass
Like the fucking bird song from dr chapter one
Peak
Ik
No contact damage is so weird
Yeah lmao
bro flower quest is easy asf
Ehh
Did it first try
just clear the enemies and dont sit on a bench the only hard part is fog canyon and the parkour at the end but i got it first try
Hardest part is queen's gardens
i want a charm that increases nail damage by 5% for every pogo you do in a row
Not the final platforming
CAP
nothing there respawns bro
fog canyon is the only place with actual enemies
Yeah but it's still more dangerous
Literally a balloon
all you need is basic parkour skills
just use grubberflies elegy and steady body and you are basically set for fog canyon part
All you need for fog canyon are 3 braincells
Bro yk that room with the charm notch in fog canyon?
Yeah
I died so many times in that on my first playthrough
i went in there on accident when doing flower quest ✌️
its not hard tho i got it first try
Wait what happens if you dream nail a dream warrior
What are the best amulets against the master of souls?
nothing
they attack you

Inglês horrível
Mas tá né
I didn't know i could use spells for it
the master of souls is tuff
Your charms are fine js keep fighting
I'd use what you're currently using
YOU CAN USE SPELLS?
Yes
Bad English because he speaks Portuguese I assume
no im saying master of souls is way cooler then soul master
Okay, ty
Mestre - Master
Das - Of
Almas - Souls
soul master: gifted power
master of souls: pure effort
Enriquee
Dica: no final tem uma fase surpresa, fique usando o dash sempre
Adrian
Guys we need to make moose emoji mainstream
Brazil flag mainstream
What is this
No
Took me a while, but I got it
Guess who beat first and second pantheons first try
ggs
Sharp Shadow and dash master goes hard
sly is harder
Oh. I know 😏
CAP
honestly I think I played too agroo here, risked so hard
Pause
um 3rd pantheon final boss is sly bro
100% agree holy truth nuke
I always shriek when he staggers
Sly may be harder in radiant
Yup. Figured that out meself
But normally it's pv
I was just out for blood
or void in this case
Soul, probably
Actual efficient sshadow usage holy🥹
Sly: gifted money
Pure vessel: pure vessel
alr, time for another one
charm set + boss combo's
u gave sshadow to a B(sk spoiler censor) user, course Imma use it to harass
Joni's blessing, quick focus, deep focus, and thorns of agony
actual ones please
Love my [redacted]
P3 is harder than p4 and p1 is harder than p2
Soul eater, soul catcher, shaman stone and spell twister
what boss
Absolute Radiance
P2 is harder than P1 because of Obolobbles
P3>P4>P1>P2 (difficulty)
P3 and P4 are equally hard
pure vessel: gifted talent 🤡
absrad: gifted talent 🤡
nkg: gifted talent 🤡
zote: AURA BOIIII THIS IS SO TUFF WHAT WOAHWAHWHWHOHA
P1 is harder than p2 because of brooding mawlek
its cuz of oro and mato
Nah but mantis lords are right after and bench after that so basically free