hk-discussion

[vestal oxide]

have you done grimm troupe

[worthy peak]

did you ascend seer

[topaz nacelle]

oh so i need three more

[topaz nacelle]

remind me what that is

[worthy peak]

do you only have 6

there are 9 total masks (5 base add 16 shards)

[topaz nacelle]

i have 10 with the unbreakable heart charm

[worthy peak]

the seer when you get dreamnail

[silk beacon]

U need 1 more mask

[worthy peak]

you are missing 1-4 shards

[topaz nacelle]

maxed it out

[worthy peak]

so seer isn't there anymore?

[topaz nacelle]

im missing 3 2 for mask and one for vessel

[topaz nacelle]

nope

[worthy peak]

if you are at 110% those are all thats left

[topaz nacelle]

how do i know where the shards i need are?

[worthy peak]

a checklist maybe?

[silk beacon]

Explore/watch a guide

[topaz nacelle]

fair ok ty

[worthy peak]

which two are you missing. Im guessing the two that took me longest absrad and markoth. (in your name)

[sick mica]

which bosses are the worst (in your opinions)

[vestal oxide]

watcher knights

[silk beacon]

Absrad, zote

[worthy peak]

marmu

[sick mica]

those are easy

[misty moss]

watcher knights with bindings

nah jk

[silk beacon]

Haven't completed p5 yet,

[misty moss]

i hate markoth

[worthy peak]

worst does not equal hardest

[misty moss]

markoth is the worst ever

[sick mica]

im just saying

[twilit garnet]

Markoth and you but buff

[floral basalt]

yeah he ends all my p5 runs 😭

[silk beacon]

Almost lost my steel soul to it lol

[worthy peak]

they are still wrong - marmu is worst

[vestal oxide]

true marmu suckssss

[finite ember]

where is the acient basin door

im having so much trouble finding it

[silk beacon]

MoP works

[finite ember]

and i really dont wanna lose 4k geo with no map in ere

[vestal oxide]

That place in city of tears where the giant husks walk around

Those fat guys that deal double damage

[celest frigate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qKifZsul72w?si=mmgAAsF6NTlUcxf0

[floral basalt]

bottom left of ancient basin

[finite ember]

the kingsbrand

[celest frigate]

wanna see sm1 do this shit

[vestal oxide]

Oh

[worthy peak]

Doesn't make it good. I often have MoP and longnail equipped and it doesn't make the boss good just easier.

[vestal oxide]

Its at the very bottom

[worthy peak]

although it doesn't help loads with ascended arena

[floral basalt]

bottom left

[silk beacon]

I died there once and my shade glitched somewhere, I was panicking at that time cuz I didn't want to lose my geo

[vestal oxide]

i used mop/longnail for rad pv like a bum 🙏

[finite ember]

HERE? this is the only map i have of this place

OHHH

[vestal oxide]

bruh

[finite ember]

i dont have a royal waterways mapo

mb

[worthy peak]

Everyone should use MoP for everything.

[vestal oxide]

I'm trying to play with no range enhancing charms and its torture

[silk beacon]

I didn't even use mop/longnail for pv 💀

[misty moss]

i dont use mop

[vestal oxide]

Swapped longnail out for steady body+nailmaster

[misty moss]

i use shaman stone instead

[silk beacon]

I think I might hv used longnail I don't remember now

[worthy peak]

gasssssssspppppppppp. How could you!

[misty moss]

im more prone to missing spells than nail hits

[worthy peak]

Ok ok I hear you. However
MoP

[wild sierra]

That boss is a piece of shit

😔

[silk beacon]

My build for pv was solely based on hit and run, it was dash,sprint, sharp shadow, strength, quickslash

[vestal oxide]

wtf

[worthy peak]

My build was MoP strength quickslash and steadybody - for evey boss except markoth and absrad where i overcharmed to add longnail

[silk beacon]

I remember using mail arts only while doing rad seer, even tho it took a long time but it was quite fun

[kind sigil]

why is the first xero just a fraud

[vestal oxide]

i think im adding mop back to my build

[silk beacon]

What ur build

[misty moss]

hes a tutorial dream warrior

[vestal oxide]

the part i do need to get rid of is, in fact, quick focus

[wild sierra]

Pv

Charms

[kind sigil]

oh

what abt gorb

[vestal oxide]

Strength quick slash quick focus steady nailmaster

[worthy peak]

You should try anyrad with MoP instead of baldurs from the meta build (aimedd at anyone who will listen)

[silk beacon]

Why dream nail?

And crest

[wild sierra]

Sheild and damage

Damage

[silk beacon]

Oh it can parry? Didn't knew that never played with shield

[kind sigil]

is this a cheese build or smth?

[wild sierra]

Speedrun

[kind sigil]

oh speedrun

[worthy peak]

most dream warriors jsut aren't hard compared to dream bosses and the harder real worldd ones and i don't think they are meant to be. They already died to be fair

[finite ember]

ok where the fuck is this stupid door (OLD MAP IM SOMEWHERE ELSE NOW )

dont mind the circle

[worthy peak]

down from you

just down until you can't no more

[kind sigil]

yeah gorb 1 is a major fraud

[silk beacon]

Yeah I didn't use longnail I remember now

[worthy peak]

then left

[finite ember]

ohhhh tysm

[silk beacon]

Yes I think so

[worthy peak]

did it die before you. Then yes

[spiral burrow]

its so over

im quitting out idgaf

[silk beacon]

Why didn't u use fragile heart?

[kind sigil]

do you have shade cloak? if so, then if its recharged shade dash out of the attack if possible

[celest frigate]

unbreakable heart

[runic shuttle]

go straight down from the spot you were in this map

[celest frigate]

PLEASE

[spiral burrow]

i got scared

[finite ember]

im scared for whats gonna go on in the door

god i hope i dont die

[runic shuttle]

its nothing really

just spaced out platform

s

[silk beacon]

No getting unbreakable is pretty much useless lol (in steel soul)

[runic shuttle]

some shades

[spiral burrow]

i also spent the whole weekend on this file so

[runic shuttle]

it IS useless

[kind sigil]

is there any use upgrading fragile charms to unb in steel soul?

[celest frigate]

OH

[fiery trench]

u’ll be fine

[celest frigate]

ok guys

what do i use in trial 3

since uh

[finite ember]

huge hole

great

[runic shuttle]

you fight enemies

[celest frigate]

not worky working

[fiery trench]

flex that u had no life

[celest frigate]

no

[topaz nacelle]

I haven't done the delicate flower quest..

[finite ember]

who??

[topaz nacelle]

Where do I take this flower?

[runic shuttle]

queens garden

[fiery trench]

shaman stone everything to death
also quick slash

[celest frigate]

ffs WHAT CHARMS DO I USE TO BEAT FUCKING SHITTY TRIAL 3

[topaz nacelle]

To the white lady i assume?

[celest frigate]

i dont use spells much.

[runic shuttle]

no to the mantis person

its right above the queens garden stag station

[kind sigil]

start using spells

[fiery trench]

then I’d say quick slash, Mark or long nail, quick focus, and a charm of ur liking if it can fit

[silk beacon]

Nailmaster glory too

[fiery trench]

only one u need is ddark

[silk beacon]

Too op imo

[kind sigil]

what abt shriek?

and shadesoul?

[fiery trench]

only useful if they’re above and to the right

[fiery trench]

shade soul has its monents, but its colo 3
ur getting jumped for a majority of it

ddark is useful for all but 3 sections

and 2 of those just have unkillable enemies

[kind sigil]

speaking of should i do colo 3 once i beat colo 2? ofc after getting better stuff

[cursive geyser]

Whats your source?

[fiery trench]

well, all u get is geo and the glory of being a fool

[fiery trench]

Source: Trust me cro

[finite ember]

WHAT WE GONNA FIGHT THE SUN

[fiery trench]

not now
thats for the insane masochist to do

[cursive geyser]

He did the thing 🗣️

[finite ember]

omg i got the shade cloak

i can go back into the locked place

[cursive geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[finite ember]

near hornet pt 2

[cursive geyser]

Gifs are allowed here tho

[silk beacon]

Has anyone done p1ab?

I have done binding but separately

[fiery trench]

hello

it took 2 attempts and only bcuz I got blindsided the first time

[silk beacon]

Any tips? I feel too slow lol

[fiery trench]

spells and NArts go brrr

NArts especially

[silk beacon]

I haven't fought zote yet so he's locked and won't ruin my p5 & p3ab run (yes I'm a coward)

[fiery trench]

cowardice implies you did something wrong

[silk beacon]

I don't wanna fight it 😭

[cursive geyser]

The nanomachines got stuck 💔

[silk beacon]

Ok senator

I will try

I don't know how I did that zote rush

[fiery trench]

Eternal Ordeal?

[silk beacon]

Yeah

[fiery trench]

R u looking for it or asking the hypothetical

[silk beacon]

I forgot it's been too long since I played the game

[silk beacon]

Nah I cleared it, just forgot how tf I did that

[finite ember]

what does hornet mean by "take the harder path" where is the harder path i already got shade cloak

[silk beacon]

Shi was too random

[finite ember]

aOHHHH i have to go where i fight her to go throug hthe shadow cloak door

[silk beacon]

Yeah lol

[fiery trench]

dw, u’lm find out

[quartz zenith]

Mark of pride is 25% increase right?

[finite ember]

aslong if it isnt major

[runic shuttle]

yeah

[fiery trench]

I actually have no idea

[finite ember]

then no.

im just gonna go back to where hornet pt 2 was

i need to backtrack

correct path right?

[wicked kiln]

nail binding

[finite ember]

for help

lmaooo

[finite ember]

the sun

[vernal knot]

#hk-help

[quartz zenith]

Then go to the help channel lol

[vernal knot]

[quartz zenith]

[vernal knot]

There's a channel solely dedicated for that

[quartz zenith]

Also

[worthy peak]

what is it I wanna see if my suspicions/memory are correct

[silk beacon]

Wow

Separately or all together?

[vernal knot]

I'd say that's a bit of an overkill

[worthy peak]

Steel soul way easier than bindings.

[fiery trench]

far overkill

[silk beacon]

I did half HoG radiant before steel soul

[worthy peak]

oh my suspicions were way off.

[vernal knot]

"both the knight and the hollow knight die"

Me when spreading misinformation

[languid gale]

knight dies or returns to the void

[vernal knot]

Why would it die anyway

[worthy peak]

I need to pay more attention to dialogue

[silk beacon]

Both the hollow knight*

[vernal knot]

I honestly don't know where the notion of TK dying in DNM Comes from

Like why would they die from killing The Radiance

[worthy peak]

What?

[languid gale]

shell is there

[vernal knot]

What about it

[languid gale]

either he dies or returns to the void

[vernal knot]

The Shell is gone

yeah

and?

Why would that affect the shade

[silk beacon]

I mean both are hollow knights right?

[vernal knot]

at all

[languid gale]

if there was more to say i wouldve said it

and i already did

read

[vernal knot]

If you want to be that nitpicky you called tk A "He"

[misty moss]

is it possible to do stallball to get into hidden station without monarch wings?

[vernal knot]

But again, I still don't get why TK Shell breaking = Death?

[worthy peak]

neither are hollow knights both have will and feelings. The Hollow Knight is nothing more than a title. iirc

[vernal knot]

Correct

[worthy peak]

Pretty sure.

[vernal knot]

That doesn't imply death

[finite ember]

guys i lit cant fidn the shadow cloak door in kingdoms edge

[vernal knot]

Well it's there

[languid gale]

its in ancient basin

[silk beacon]

Why does our knight have feelings?

[vernal knot]

"Shadow cloak door"

They meant Markoth's akari's

[finite ember]

no i GOTT shadow cloak now i need to go thru the locked shadow cloak place

lmao

[vernal knot]

They meant Markoth's shadow gate

Correct

[languid gale]

ohh

[languid gale]

which could be referring to the door in ancient basin where you use the kings brand

[vernal knot]

which is why I corrected "TK and THK statement"

[vernal knot]

That's a stretch

Ye It's good

The rest of the summary was aight

[languid gale]

not though

because the other one isnt a door

[finite ember]

may someone circle it on my map or give me a hint?

[worthy peak]

In P5. There is winged nosk. Takes shape of hornet. That means that the knight cares about hornet as nosk takes shape of those they care most about. Also they came to THK calls. and they bothered to attempt climbing out of abyss. voidheart states bearers will.

[vernal knot]

[languid gale]

look at the open area

below you

[finite ember]

i dont wanna search for 30 minutes like last time

[worthy peak]

basically there is a lot of evidence they have some will

[silk beacon]

Oh yeah i totally forgot that

[vernal knot]

The Climb isn't really a proof of Will nor Feelings I'd say

[finite ember]

cast of shell is locked??

[tired mountain]

He chill like that

Every vessel isnt hollow

[vernal knot]

As much as Answering the call that brought TK/Other vessels back to Hallownest

[misty moss]

think i'll practice there and then try to skip the spiky hallway in ancient basin, get monarch wings before cdash

[languid gale]

the cast off shell isnt directly below you

go back

[worthy peak]

What force compelled them to climb out?

[languid gale]

look below you

[finite ember]

can i stream to u

im confused

lmao

[vernal knot]

Nature

[languid gale]

its directly below you

[tired mountain]

Infection

[vernal knot]

Like the imprinted will that are the shades

if I had to say

[silver sonnet]

i went through the majority of path of pain no problem

[worthy peak]

I think that qualifies as not being hollow. Its your nature

[silver sonnet]

and the last sections just took me 2 hours

what the hell

[vernal knot]

Yeah

But the climb itself isn't

[finite ember]

oh near the bench

[worthy peak]

how does that make sense

[vernal knot]

Specially because that is what PK actually wanted for them to do

[silver sonnet]

like the last tiny strip before the bossfight

[hidden spire]

yo

[tired mountain]

How what makes sense

[vernal knot]

It's never properly elaborated on

[languid gale]

i can circle it if you want

[finite ember]

please im super confused on this game

[worthy peak]

yeah. I think that is important to realise that they might not.

[vernal knot]

Literally everything surrounding "Purely hollow" as a concept is confusing

We don't have a proper answer

[languid gale]

would you mind sending your map again

[finite ember]

i hope silksong is easier to locate where to go lmao

[vernal knot]

It's worse

[tired mountain]

I dont think pure means hollow why would pv fight knight then

[worthy peak]

How would infection make them climb out

[vernal knot]

because PV isn't Hollow

[finite ember]

oh god

[vernal knot]

[tired mountain]

Infection aint here -> gotta find it -> only way out is climbing out

[vernal knot]

It's interesting reasoning

[tired mountain]

Hk devs doing some bullshit

[languid gale]

@finite ember

[vernal knot]

What

[finite ember]

OH LMAO

tysm

[silk beacon]

How did the vessels know that there was an infection?

[vernal knot]

Sixth Sense

We don't know how

they just do

[tired mountain]

Exactly

[vernal knot]

There's a lot of shit that don't have an explanation

[tired mountain]

But they arent fully hollow so

[worthy peak]

I think that the thing needed to contain radiance is an unbreakable will. not no will. And pale kings idea was trying to get a no will vessel. Which was flawed. This mostly unsupported theory allows me to believe that the knight can permanantly contain radiance

[tired mountain]

Might aswell be fuck this opening looks cool lemme climb it

[vernal knot]

I mean a strong will is a temporal fix to avoid the Infection

[worthy peak]

I don't remember enough about lore. But that first part im pretty sure is right

[vernal knot]

But like probably not

[worthy peak]

So in theory an infinitely strong/unbreakable one could permanently fix :)

[vernal knot]

Is that even possible?

Probably not

That's the thing

[tired mountain]

Not mine

[worthy peak]

Was Pale Kings plan ever possible. Probably not. But this lets me headcannon and isn't disproven (To my knowledge)

[silver sonnet]

the devs told them

[tired mountain]

Maybe 1 vessel is hollow

[vernal knot]

Why even headcanon it?

[tired mountain]

I said no limits i didnt say im gonna waste my time

[hidden spire]

This changes everything..

[flat onyx]

Actually genuinely
How did the Pale King handle Herrah???

[vernal knot]

They bred

that's it

[worthy peak]

To believe the knight can succeed in every ending

[hidden spire]

hi mega

[vernal knot]

That's kind of slly

no offense

[vernal knot]

Hello pterodactyl

how ya doin'

[kind sigil]

spamton

[silver sonnet]

isn't the knight supposed to literally be a creature with no will?

[kind sigil]

spamton g spamton

[hidden spire]

Is that just me from now on

[tired mountain]

Depends on how hollow they are they would be basically robots if they were fully hollow

[vernal knot]

That is their purpose yeah

[vernal knot]

Would you like me to stop?

[hidden spire]

I'm good! What about you

[hidden spire]

Nope

[vernal knot]

I'm good too, just got back from visiting my grandparents

[hidden spire]

That's nice

[vernal knot]

Tomorrow I re-start school

[worthy peak]

I think if they were truly hollow as in no will they wouldn't have a mind (even a rudimentary one) or instinct to stop the radiance escaping. and like what actaully makes them try.

[silver sonnet]

which begs the question, why do they do anything?

[tired mountain]

What makes a line of code work

[vernal knot]

We don't know how a being with no will could look like

[tired mountain]

Nothing

[vernal knot]

that's the thing

[tired mountain]

It just does

[vernal knot]

Maybe it is possible they have a mind

Maybe not

[worthy peak]

binary logic gates

[silver sonnet]

For me, the knight has no will, but the player does

[worthy peak]

that can be corrupted

[vernal knot]

But The Knight is the Voidheart's bearer

and that means they have a Will

[silver sonnet]

if we don't touch the keyboard, the knight just is there

[vernal knot]

As far as we know we aren't canon to Hollow Knight, no

Only the backers possibly

[misty moss]

i did stall ball to skip into monarch wings and its so fun

i love speedrunners fuckery

[vernal knot]

STELL BALL 🗣️

[worthy peak]

I can never do stall balls :(

[finite ember]

is warrior dream fight required? and what reward does it give

[vernal knot]

Yes, Essence.

[kind sigil]

is the steel ball running?

[silver sonnet]

makes sense, I made that poor thing do so many things

[knotty ravine]

what slopeball is there to get wings specifically

[finite ember]

you dont really need essence i thought

[vernal knot]

We getting to act 4 with this one

[misty moss]

RUN

[vernal knot]

You hate Stall balls now?

[misty moss]

its fps reliant

[vernal knot]

For Awk Dreamnail

[vivid creek]

• The knight also performs some actions completely of it's own volition that have nothing to do with the radiance or it's purpose
  Like giving elderbug a flower

[vernal knot]

• Steel Soul Jinn's dialogue

[finite ember]

what do i do after beating warrior dream

[vernal knot]

How much essence do you have

[worthy peak]

how so? like is high or low best for it and is it a requirement or just helpful

[vivid creek]

Idr Jinn's dialogue
It's been a long time since I did steel soul

[finite ember]

151

[vernal knot]

Nothing

[finite ember]

what

??

[misty moss]

the lower the better, if its too high you cant do it

[vernal knot]

You can't fucking do anything with 151 Essence

your broke as fuck

So keep getting more

[kind sigil]

what if we control the shell and not the soul/shade of the knight and the knight just chooses to cooperate with us (that wouldnt be possible if we arent canon tho)

[vernal knot]

We controll the Stillborn Fetus?

That is

Silly

[kind sigil]

no

[tired mountain]

What makes a virus or a bacteria to stop reproducing they dont have a mind like that is what im sayin

[misty moss]

also, longnail and mark of pride make it easier to hit the fireball

[worthy peak]

well i don't think mine is huge. Does it mean the ball disapears too fast or ddoes it mean it just doesn't stall

[vernal knot]

That's what the shell is though

The Shell of Vessels are dead children the shade is controlling

[misty moss]

i think it disappears too fast

[tired mountain]

They prolly would work like smth low on consciousness spectrum

[vernal knot]

Or well, "Children". as I said, they are mostly "Stillborn Fetuses "

[vivid creek]

Yeah, good point. I just read it
Jinn directly states it has a will

[kind sigil]

the knight that we control is a/the stillborn fetus? is this true?

[vernal knot]

Yes

[finite ember]

how much more?

[worthy peak]

i think the instinct qualifies enough to be infected though. Based on singular infection cells

[spiral burrow]

man fuck soul tyrant

[vernal knot]

iirc you need like 700

let me check

!wiki Dreamgate

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Dreamgate

[vivid creek]

900 iirc

[languid gale]

1800

for dreamgate

[runic shuttle]

airball

[languid gale]

wait holon

[vernal knot]

Wow I was off fucking mark

[vivid creek]

That's wokenail

[tired mountain]

Wdym

[worthy peak]

So i would still notice the ball stalling if i succeeded on that part? Cause ive never seen it even stall

[kind sigil]

what even is iirc i dont know what that means

[vernal knot]

Actually no

I was good

[vivid creek]

if I recall correctly

[kind sigil]

oh

[vernal knot]

Dwag your so lost if you touch void

[kind sigil]

recall what correctly

[vivid creek]

900 essence to get dreamgate

[worthy peak]

Based on the fact singular cells can be infection. It would appear that a virus would have enough will/mind to be infected.

[misty moss]

im not sure, i dont actually have a machine capable of running hk in high fps lol

[finite ember]

yea im not doing that fight

fuck that

[tired mountain]

Bro viruses dont have a mind or a will

[worthy peak]

well i think im just failing to stall at all

[finite ember]

im not walking for 5 minutes everytime

[vernal knot]

I mean Radiance fucking died

[graceful storm]

Where the fuck am I?

[misty moss]

you could practice stall ball in the palace grounds skip, its pretty easy, check this video https://youtu.be/mDkMEnxCWE4?t=382

[vivid creek]

stone sanctuary?

[finite ember]

tell me why

[kind sigil]

You simply are

[graceful storm]

NO EYES?!

[vernal knot]

Stone Sacntuary yeah

[graceful storm]

IM AT NO EYES?!

[vivid creek]

probs

[graceful storm]

NO

I NEED TO LEAVE

[kind sigil]

eyes

[vernal knot]

Just don't be a bother for TK and you cookin'

[worthy peak]

the infection cells exist. How much mind do you think they have. I believe the instinct or viruses would be enough based on this

[tired mountain]

They dont have a mind its like a rock decided to reproduce and did it some day but it benefits them

[vivid creek]

I thought those were forms born entirely of infection and not something that was corrupted?

[vernal knot]

A rock born from air

[tired mountain]

Yes

[kind sigil]

when you took it

[tired mountain]

They are a tiny bit more conscious than a rock if u even call that a consciousness

[finite ember]

why do i need essence and HOW MUCH

[dull leaf]

guys in room 2 its the fast chainsaw I need to pogo off nails but when I pogo off nails I hit the spikes and there is no totems here what do I do

in pop

[vernal knot]

I told you 900

[hidden spire]

Lmaoo

[languid gale]

#hk-help

[vernal knot]

You talk to seer with 900

[dull leaf]

no one helping there

[worthy peak]

ANd im saying that instinct to make that decision is enough

[languid gale]

prolly cuz its been 1 minute

[dull leaf]

lol

[worthy peak]

Yeah probably didn't consider this enough

Might still justify. but probably not

[tired mountain]

Yes i think hollow beings would operate like that

[vernal knot]

I mean we dunno' if Broken vessel has any skills

At least Greenpath Vessel died to Hornet,

BV died to random ass beasts

[worthy peak]

I was saying that that isn't enough to aviod infection

[vernal knot]

As if that was hard

[worthy peak]

but my reasoning may have been flawed

[tired mountain]

It is enough bro

[cloud hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324887317722431499/1458445271888560283/raw.mp4?ex=6964f081&is=69639f01&hm=c2007b7f42955dccd5efbe6cf16222fbb372d1ede6bb004a365cd40f65c2aea6&

[languid gale]

this is the reason why people cant buy pcs btw

[tired mountain]

If its not enough then being hollow isnt even a thing

[worthy peak]

you refused to engage with my actual argument.

[vernal knot]

They spamming it

[tired mountain]

When

[worthy peak]

Yeah.

[cloud hinge]

the ais taking all the ram

[vernal knot]

Not canon

[cloud hinge]

this is cannon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324887317722431499/1458445271888560283/raw.mp4?ex=6964f081&is=69639f01&hm=c2007b7f42955dccd5efbe6cf16222fbb372d1ede6bb004a365cd40f65c2aea6&

[quartz cave]

what the fuck is this

[vernal knot]

The ban you goin to get will be canon too

[tired mountain]

Im pretty sure pale king would be smarter than trusting billions of rocks to defeat a god somehow

[vernal knot]

I mean TK did it all without sweating so

[worthy peak]

here. I was saying that instinct was enough and you just repeated they ddidn't have a mind

[languid gale]

wasnt tk like the only one able to leave hallownest tho

hes built different

[hidden spire]

Cro

[tired mountain]

I think not being hollow is about being able to think and stuff a virus cant think but it does its job and doesnt have emotions

[worthy peak]

he was desperate

[tired mountain]

Nah bro

[vernal knot]

More probably left as well

Perchance, Perchance'nt

[languid gale]

not confirmed tho

[vernal knot]

Probably

Jeez

[tired mountain]

Yes its enough but they arent a rock they are more like a bacteria ig

[vivid creek]

tk's feats are unparalled
Since pk had foresight I wonder if he knew tk would come one day and that thk was doomed to fail

[vernal knot]

Yall still going?

[worthy peak]

how was he not.

[vernal knot]

Holy PK glaze

[languid gale]

even if others left i doubt very many could

[vernal knot]

I mean PK's foresight is literally irrelevant

So that'd be a good way to make it have any depth

[violet light]

How fast do y'all think I can do radiant HOG

[tired mountain]

I dont think pale king would trust a billion rocks to kill a god bro how funny that sounds on paper might aswell go and try to beat the god yourself than trusting a billion rocks

[worthy peak]

well. my reasoning for the amount of will needed was flawed and i don't have enough support within game to argue it. Guess you win

[tired mountain]

1

[violet light]

1 what

😭

[hidden spire]

One.

[violet light]

Progress so far???

[vivid creek]

I have no idea how strong his foresight is
But he "forsaw a demise inevitable" maybe he knew no matter what he tried to do the kingdom would fall, and the only way to beat radiance would be to seal her in a temporary vessel until tk showed up to curbstomp her

[worthy peak]

I don't recall claiming he would.

[languid gale]

do rad markoth and rad abs rad first cuz after that its way easier

[tired mountain]

U can be right but that would be misundersranding of consciousness by the devs

[vernal knot]

I mean the shroom says it

PK's foresight likely was common knowledge

[violet light]

I already did do radabsrad on a previous save

[vernal knot]

And the Shroom was just coping and seething with their last comment as they died

[tired mountain]

And this games writing isnt the most consistent or the most deep so

[languid gale]

<@&283547423706447872>

[hidden spire]

Woah!

free opportunity

[languid gale]

free robux alert?

[worthy peak]

Or possibly pale king. Or maybe those who explain infection to you

[tired mountain]

Bro can u gimme my money back my life savings gone

[vernal knot]

I mean The Hollow Knight already had stage 6 Cancer

[vivid creek]

Ye, but we have no idea how strong it was, how far ahead he could see, how accurate it was
He could've maybe seen that a vessel was the only way to beat radiance, but not that the vessel who would succeed would come long after the demise of the kingdom, so he went ahead with thk

Or he could've known that the only way to beat radiance is to temporarily imprison her until tk showed up

[languid gale]

wouldnt the radiance have to escape the temple of the black egg tho

[heady umbra]

no

[worthy peak]

The Hollow Knight getting a stroke theory was not on my 2026 bingo list.

[heady umbra]

she’s a dream based entity

[vernal knot]

No

[languid gale]

how would radiance get released then

[tired mountain]

Most likely

[violet light]

Hornet sentinel

[heady umbra]

she is currently sealed in thk’s mind

[vernal knot]

By THK dying

If THK died Radiance would be able to just teleport to a random space in the dream realm

[worthy peak]

how could i forget that. smh

[vernal knot]

the reason it forces THK to fight The Knight is because, if THK died there, TK could instantly capture her again

It needs TK gone from the picture, after that, they'd prob make THK kill themselves

[languid gale]

so then where would the radiance end up if both of them died

[worthy peak]

shaking my head

[vernal knot]

Free

[vivid creek]

That was probably her plan
Kill tk with thk's body, then kill thk and do moth stuff

[quartz cave]

i miss her

[nova kelp]

[tired mountain]

In the ending thk surviving means tk killing all those infected people is just cruel

Nah

[vivid creek]

thk is also like 1.5x higher being
We have no idea if mortal bugs would survive the infection

[tired mountain]

Thk didnt die in true ending

[nova kelp]

What do y'all play hk for

[violet light]

First ever time dying to flukemarm

[violet light]

Pain

[tired mountain]

Im guessing everyone else would cuz thk is like the number 1 infection guy and even he survived

[nova kelp]

Same

[languid gale]

what happens then? since if ur referring to dream no more hornet holds him down until either tk takes too long or dream nails thk

[frozen hull]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[nova kelp]

[frozen hull]

Umazing

[tired mountain]

Nah its pantheon endings dunno if that happens in dream no more aswell

[worthy peak]

Im pleading self defence

[languid gale]

embrace the void?

[tired mountain]

Yes

[next cloud]

ts was ridiculously hard to get to

[hidden spire]

Nine sols reference

[finite ember]

i dont wanna get essence i only have 151 and need 200 i think for the lady

omg

[hidden spire]

Because um

[next cloud]

harder than the mantis lords

[frozen hull]

[vivid creek]

It's definitely possible, but I don't think it's guarenteed
Thk was designed specifically to contain the radiance, has the body of a higher being and is fused with void
Nothing else besides another vessel has a comparable constitution

[frozen hull]

Nine Sols more like Ten Sols

[hidden spire]

Un❌true

[tired mountain]

Ts the first smart theory i have heard here

[hidden spire]

Do you guys want to
See a wet cat inside a bathtub

[tired mountain]

Sausage and erad

[tired mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/krazykat123-future-this-is-ai-gif-13772564598763876375

[hidden spire]

Awesome..

http://soggy.cat

[tired mountain]

Nanomachines son

[fiery trench]

hiding truth wouldn't be hard

u just need to know how

fym we?

[tired mountain]

On everyones soul we schizophrenic

[finite ember]

can someone help me in dms

[tired mountain]

No

[fiery trench]

good thing I lack a soul

[finite ember]

then dont reply dumbass

[fiery trench]

with what?

[tired mountain]

No

[finite ember]

on what to do

[tired mountain]

Bro is mysterious

[topaz nacelle]

This flower quest is so tedious wth

[fiery trench]

u say that when there are over 230 r5 clears

[violet light]

Finally did rad sob

[tired mountain]

Rad sob only nail is really fun

[fiery trench]

set dream gate next to her house, kill everything on ur path, and then dreamgate back

[violet light]

Real

[tired mountain]

I saw 4

[finite ember]

i wanna show my stats and i have no idea what to get right now i JUST got shadow cloak

[languid gale]

i saw 5

[tired mountain]

I saw 6 cry about it lil bro

[topaz nacelle]

I did but the spikes keep killing me

[languid gale]

i saw 7 L bozo

• git gud at the game

loser

[fiery trench]

with u just getting shade cloak, go explore Queen's garden, left of fog canyon

[worthy peak]

Im not schizophrenic i just spend 100s of hours fighting a dream moth personification of the sun that is flinging tens of flying swords unaffected by graavity at me.

[finite ember]

aahhh ok i dont have to fight the dreamer

[fiery trench]

I mean u could
probably advised if u want max tracked percent

[finite ember]

nahhh idm that i can do that when im done then i will explore EVERYWHERE in a new save

[misty moss]

guys i think u can stall ball into enraged guardian without monarch wings

thats cool

[fiery trench]

not sure why'd u do that, but it is neat that u can

[short spear]

Minion builds are hilarious. I just did a Soul and Health binding with one in Panth 1

[misty moss]

normally you have to come back to crystal peaks just to pick up that mask shard

[short spear]

Just run around and do nothing

[fiery trench]

I do love my Nosklings

[spiral burrow]

i hate how the game does this instead of putting you at your bench like it should

[misty moss]

but with this trick you dont have to come back

[short spear]

Where do you get Nosklings?

[finite ember]

[vivid creek]

How many deer is a moose worth?

[spiral burrow]

bitch i got places to be why should i spawn near monomon

[fiery trench]

its a skin for Weaverlings

[misty moss]

at most you need to kill that grimmkin novice

[short spear]

Oh, yeah I have Weaversong

[fiery trench]

I mean considering a bench is a single room up from there, its not that deep

[finite ember]

[short spear]

Weaversong + Grubsong + Glowing womb is surprisingly effective.

[spiral burrow]

i gotta go to the black egg

[short spear]

Even with soul binding I was producing so much I can get some heals in

[finite ember]

[spiral burrow]

i cant be sitting w monomon and quirrel

[vivid creek]

If you see one moose, what's the equivalent number of deer coolness-wise

[vernal knot]

It has to be this way

[kind sigil]

p5 is easier when you only use compass + req items to enter (source: trust me bro)

[proven torrent]

"commits alt f4" 💔

[kind sigil]

limbus company

[cosmic blaze]

Hello my fellow hollow knights

[fiery trench]

wsg

[proven torrent]

hallo

[cosmic blaze]

Guys, why is it a crime to play these games casually

[proven torrent]

❓

[languid gale]

no any% -23 mins 2 seconds?

[fiery trench]

no
we're just mental

[cosmic blaze]

I told someone I play HK casually and they told me to never touch the game ever again unironically 🥀

[serene galleon]

bro my dumbass just realized we aint the hollow knight

[kind sigil]

yo that lowkey sounds like a wild game where you play as a hero with a compass of curiosity

[proven torrent]

son 😭

[cosmic blaze]

I didn’t realize till I got to the city of tears 🫩

[spiral burrow]

gg steel soul only quit out to brooding mawlek lmao

[fiery trench]

how long did it take

[serene galleon]

we just a failed son our father threw away into the void

[proven torrent]

brooding mawlek is evil i dont blame you

[fiery trench]

gg

[spiral burrow]

only boss i quit out to deadass

[proven torrent]

even if theyre easy they still scare me lowk

[spiral burrow]

i still gotta do 100% btw i only did this js in case i somehow die and i can have 1 of the achievements

[cosmic blaze]

I mean.. I still beat P5 and did all the challenges. I just feel like I’ll be executed if I tell someone I didn’t do the fastest speedrun while no hitting the game 🥀

[fiery trench]

u gonna go for steel heart

[spiral burrow]

yea

im like 90% there

js gotta do some grubs some dream bosses and im done

[fiery trench]

if someone tries, ask them where their HK All Bosses hitless speedrun no nail white spells run is

[finite ember]

wah

[cosmic blaze]

I quit my HK steel soul cuz of those bum ass double teaming rolling bugs.

I hate them so much

[kind sigil]

defender crest + stalwart shell + gsong + baldur

[fiery trench]

they'll either have something, in which they can be sent to a mental facility
or don't in which u can call them a filthy casual

[languid gale]

no r5ab speedrun?

[vestal oxide]

boss idea: 4 oblobbles (double date)

[spiral burrow]

i also did die to failed champion once and soul tyrant twice BUTTTTTT those dont end your run

[cosmic blaze]

I’d quit the game

[fiery trench]

boss idea: 21 PV's

[languid gale]

500 primal aspids

[cosmic blaze]

Boss idea: elderbug

[fiery trench]

500 aspid queens

[gentle pilot]

erad & serenity reporting for action ☺️

[vivid creek]

Markoth but he spawns marmus instead of swords

[fiery trench]

make it real pls, I beg of you

[cosmic blaze]

He 1 taps you and deletes the run if you get hit

[languid gale]

shes still at her bosses house

6th promotion this week

[fiery trench]

I just want him dead

[gentle pilot]

ggs

[fiery trench]

no cost to great

[cosmic blaze]

He’s so adorable tho 🥀

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-bunny-gif-5377699542763594656

[proven torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-ren-rabbit-ren-bunny-angora-lop-hungry-bunny-gif-12721061786662236359

[fiery trench]

so was Menderbug, and yet his ass in in my journal

[quartz cave]

atpase

[cosmic blaze]

😭

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/bacteria-microscope-under-the-microscope-gif-12118443

[languid gale]

shes js really commited to work yk

[quartz cave]

biochem in my hkmain ❤️‍🩹

[vestal oxide]

Suddenly cytology

[quartz cave]

the server is healing

[kind sigil]

boss idea: Five hundred Great Hoppers.
https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

[cosmic blaze]

No, he’s genuinely a cutie

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/biology-gif-27440307

[fiery trench]

I go here to escape my life, not find it again

[violet light]

Made it to my favourite bossfight!

[quartz cave]

ok no domt do that

[cosmic blaze]

Get him off my screen

[quartz cave]

physiology sucks aah

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/gi-gif-10716170

[violet light]

Rad hog progress

[violet light]

No

[finite ember]

is cornifer in fog canyon

[quartz cave]

digestive system is peak,,,

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/anatomy-chart-spine-gif-24596584

[kind sigil]

why are people sending anatomy gifs

[fiery trench]

only region he doesn't show up in is Resting Grounds and abyss

[cosmic blaze]

Alone.. at the edge of the universe..

Good

[vestal oxide]

When you drop that penny through the grates

[fiery trench]

don't know, anyways time to go do that HK pacifist run

[kind sigil]

kill everyone after that

[cosmic blaze]

Undertale reference

[quartz cave]

gng can u help me with glycolysis

[fiery trench]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-wide-open-widen-eyes-creepy-smile-crazy-laughing-gif-26165311

[quartz cave]

what ghostimg

how do i even respond to a "what"

[cosmic blaze]

But the yaoi!

You can’t get rid of it

[quartz cave]

stonewalling aah reply

[kind sigil]

ok your going to give me your'e soul so you can restart the game and kill e veryone

[finite ember]

i hear cornifer but no idea where he is

[quartz cave]

u called me a woman and refused to elaborate smh my head

[kind sigil]

ok?

[shrewd meadow]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

im afraid we do not share the same sense of humor 😔

[cosmic blaze]

I’ll give my soul up to stop the Radiance if that makes it work

[kind sigil]

no you have to kill everyone

[shrewd meadow]

osbald I practiced baldvuika optimal combos

[quartz cave]

bina day on wednesday stream pls i wanna see u losing 7 5050s

[cosmic blaze]

Please no

🫩

[shrewd meadow]

erm I'm streaming to my irl friends you are NOT invited

[kind sigil]

kill everyone please

[quartz cave]

is it the ones where it looks like shes having a seizure on the bike

[shrewd meadow]

yes

[cosmic blaze]

I’ll let zote die before fighting Hornet

[shrewd meadow]

https://streamable.com/wfl75b it's these ones

[quartz cave]

grrrrrrrrr can u at least keep count of the wishes (like when u get each copy )

[cosmic blaze]

Hornet getting more then that 🥀

[quartz cave]

i wanna see how lucky u are,,,

[ashen ginkgo]

trowel you should go dig a hole I think that’d be cool

[kind sigil]

ok good enough

[shrewd meadow]

I will be doing that yes I have a spreadsheet to track

[cosmic blaze]

Not exactly

[quartz cave]

why benny i thought iansan was better

[quartz cave]

gurbnote

[shrewd meadow]

Bennett is better

iansan is "better" than xilonen but only at c6 and my iansan is c2 🥀

[cosmic blaze]

Does the void ever like, just not be a void

[shrewd meadow]

and I also have r1 xilonen

[vernal knot]

No

[shrewd meadow]

and I'm using archaic Petra on xilonen

[vernal knot]

it is implied another one exists but we never see so

[quartz cave]

c6 iansan with escoffier sig is better than c1 benny 😎

[finite ember]

where is cornifer in fog canyon

[shrewd meadow]

these combos are only for shields where you can't melt (like next stygian onslaught)

[finite ember]

i cant explore easily without a map

[shrewd meadow]

c6 Bennett goes hard

[vernal knot]

Or imprint it

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/krazykat123-future-this-is-ai-gif-13772564598763876375

[shrewd meadow]

I also do not have escoffier sig

[quartz cave]

you cant access it until late game

[finite ember]

guess what

[quartz cave]

people who say c6 benny is bad need to go

[finite ember]

i have wings

[shrewd meadow]

nuh uh you can access cornifer in fog canyon as soon as you get claw

[finite ember]

and shadow cloak

erm

HAHAH

[shrewd meadow]

real

[finite ember]

u need shadow cloak

[shrewd meadow]

no you don't

[vernal knot]

Shadow cloak is necessary for Cornifer in Fog Canyon yes

[cursive geyser]

no?

[shrewd meadow]

why not

[cosmic blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-edit-hollow-knight-edit-what-am-i-gonna-fight-the-sun-the-radiance-gif-196401078725175398

[quartz cave]

throw is this some fucked up bingy tech

[vernal knot]

Without counting glitches nor skips

[shrewd meadow]

nope

[worthy peak]

or monarch wings or ismas tear

[shrewd meadow]

still nope

[cursive geyser]

because you either need ismas tear or shade cloak

[vernal knot]

Throw I will throwout

[cursive geyser]

without glitches

[shrewd meadow]

the humble ismas tear

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/krazykat123-future-this-is-ai-gif-13772564598763876375

[worthy peak]

ismas tear is another entrance from crossroads

[vernal knot]

Who the fuck cares about that bitch crying

[shrewd meadow]

skips are not glitched

[vernal knot]

I can't handle being wrong

crazy

[quartz cave]

do u have iskaffe at least,,,

[shrewd meadow]

osbald should I record my dire clear next patch after I get c6 columbina

[cursive geyser]

the skip is is a pain in the ass to get

[shrewd meadow]

I have c1 escoffier with r1 calamity quellef

[quartz cave]

tbh i still dont know what columbina does

[shrewd meadow]

no it's not

[shrewd meadow]

lunar

[quartz cave]

why do u have calamity queller

[hidden spire]

https://youtu.be/aJKDPaFoGaI?si=h-VR5KB6TRIGvoTN

[quartz cave]

💔

[young lake]

OSWALD.

grr

[cursive geyser]

plus once youre there you cant get out alive iirc

[shrewd meadow]

a single pull a long time ago

[vernal knot]

IP Grabber

[quartz cave]

oh

[shrewd meadow]

yes you can

[hidden spire]

I can't wait for INARI

[gentle pilot]

🦖

[quartz cave]

serdnnnnnaaaaaaa hi hyd

[shrewd meadow]

you can break the exit at teachers archives

[unborn crag]

@young lake

[young lake]

im GOOOD

[shrewd meadow]

@young lake

[quartz cave]

throwo is the type of people to pull on vortex vanquisher

[young lake]

doing absolutely nothing rn

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[shrewd meadow]

nuh uh

[young lake]

talking to m*ge

[quartz cave]

@unborn crag

[young lake]

and el*ki

[vernal knot]

Don't grab my Ip

[hidden spire]

Five hundred

[shrewd meadow]

but I did pull on sigewinne weapon banner and get it in 1 pull

[unborn crag]

@quartz cave

hi oswald

[young lake]

hbu oswald

[quartz cave]

hi mage hyd

[unborn crag]

doing absolutely nothing rn

[shrewd meadow]

serdna not saying hi to me

[unborn crag]

talking to s*rdna

[young lake]

HELLOL THROW

[unborn crag]

and el*ki

[shrewd meadow]

hi serdna!!!

[unborn crag]

hbu oswald

[quartz cave]

im doing oke methinks

[young lake]

pelase stop copying me

[vernal knot]

🦖

[quartz cave]

im doing alr

[graceful storm]

When should I fight mantis lords?

[shrewd meadow]

.

[unborn crag]

please stop copying me

[young lake]

osawld have you seeen this pfp yet

[unborn crag]

im the better copy

[shrewd meadow]

osbald should respond

[young lake]

?av

[idle belfry]

brisledsardines

Server Avatar

[quartz cave]

whats a dire clear

[shrewd meadow]

dire stygian onslaught

[vernal knot]

Jolteon is soo much cooler

[young lake]

showing off my pfps makes me feel like a princess twirling around in a dress

[quartz cave]

osbald hasnt played since 3.4

[gentle pilot]

onslaught???

[shrewd meadow]

it's like harder than abyss by a lot

[quartz cave]

osbald hasnt played since 3.4 i do NOT know what that is

[vernal knot]

[quartz cave]

is it the abyss thats bald

[shrewd meadow]

c0r1 is usually the minimum requirement for clearing dire

[quartz cave]

oh yeah nvm yea do record it

[young lake]

stygian onslaught

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-dance-destiny2-ace-ventura-tutu-bungie-gif-25012240

[shrewd meadow]

ok

[quartz cave]

my bro with c2r1 furina and c1r1 naufal cant clear it ☹️

[shrewd meadow]

[quartz cave]

ok sounds evil do use oke or oki

[shrewd meadow]

nefer no lauma goes crazy 🔥

[young lake]

ok is evil methinks

[graceful storm]

When would be a good time to do Mantis Lords fight?

[shrewd meadow]

wtf

[shrewd meadow]

as soon as you get claw

[graceful storm]

I just got Mantis Claw and I have no nail upgrades and I have 5 masks

[graceful storm]

Ok

[quartz cave]

the trend of releasing DPS that loses 60% of their dedicated supp needs to go too

[naive dew]

@quartz cave

|HIIIIIIII

[quartz cave]

throw should become a eula main

[quartz cave]

hi melone why r u awake gn

[shrewd meadow]

Eula in the big 26

[naive dew]

cause i am

[quartz cave]

eula escoffier yelan furina team any opinions?

[naive dew]

im not ggoiing to sleep

hiiii oswald hru

[quartz cave]

(eula does 20 dmg)

[naive dew]

@shrewd meadow

[quartz cave]

im going eepy soon gn

[naive dew]

gn

[quartz cave]

waking up in 4 hrs

[shrewd meadow]

holy
thats not even a wheelchair anymore that's an iron lung

(iron lung reference)

[finite ember]

@fiery trench i ahve gotten a map

oh yeaaa

[quartz cave]

can coljmbina wheel chair

or does she only work in lunar

[shrewd meadow]

with ineffa yes

[fiery trench]

nice, no go explore

[shrewd meadow]

columbina ineffa brings literally almost any character in the game above 100k

[finite ember]

ok i heard teachers arhives were good

[fiery trench]

god does pacifist crossroads aspid arena suck

[quartz cave]

btw is nilou still relevant,,,

[kind sigil]

does heavy nail have any use?

[shrewd meadow]

yes

[quartz cave]

what teams

[shrewd meadow]

columbina lauma nilou Nahida is real

[naive dew]

throw are you availabvle in liike 18 hours

[fiery trench]

some but not a lot

[quartz cave]

4 5☆

back it ip

[shrewd meadow]

columbina mdps thats like 140k dps

[quartz cave]

whats a mdps

[shrewd meadow]

main dps

[shrewd meadow]

maybe

[quartz cave]

btw what weapon type is bina anyways

[shrewd meadow]

catalyst

[naive dew]

hop in 18h

[quartz cave]

prototype amber angle???

[shrewd meadow]

yes

[quartz cave]

hm..

what if i come back to genshin for like 20 days

[shrewd meadow]

on field columbina uses prototype amber f2p

[shrewd meadow]

what if ym

[quartz cave]

nvm fuck me i guess

gn gng im going eep

[shrewd meadow]

gg

[quartz cave]

peace out ✌️

[spiral burrow]

no joke i missed a grub bc i thought i already got it

[quartz cave]

invest in grub map

[shrewd meadow]

always happens in SBRCO speedruns

[spiral burrow]

sbrco?

[shrewd meadow]

especially in multiplayer ones

[shrewd meadow]

salubras blessing random charm order

[naive dew]

no thats a bad idea

[shrewd meadow]

shut up melone

[quartz cave]

WHO PINGED ME

[shrewd meadow]

genshin is good

@quartz cave

[spiral burrow]

i also missed soore shroom

[quartz cave]

yea true i need to grind the new szn in League

[spiral burrow]

and grimmkid because im too lazy to go to howling cliffs

[hidden spire]

Oswald Q. Ostrich

[quartz cave]

melone what do u think of btf diadem of songs and helia combo on serapgine adc