hk-discussion

[north charm]

why does no one believe in my rad hog

im proud of it

[compact sphinx]

DAMN

[hybrid holly]

I got monarch wings do I go fight hornet to get king's brand then shade cloak or do I explore palace grounds

[tidal jewel]

Collector is like the only boss that relies heavily on sound

[north charm]

frist playthrough.

are we deadass

[misty moss]

100% speedrun guys 😭

my first playthrough was long ago

[crisp willow]

If you get to isma's before doin any side quests, than yea its pretty easy to go to QG early

[tidal jewel]

Ismas can be that bad to get

[compact sphinx]

Damn the bot blocked my nickname for hornet

[compact sphinx]

he did the skip😭

[north charm]

how do you know you are looking for exactly ismas early on though... for a first playthrougher

[tidal jewel]

Horni?

[compact sphinx]

Yea

[north charm]

and how do you know about skips like this 😭

[compact sphinx]

Ahh youtube our king

[tidal jewel]

Dung defender is like top 5 easy bosses

Doma doma

[compact sphinx]

Only becos of ddark

[crisp willow]

If you obtain a simple key in city, find the water way's door amd use your key there, find ogrim, fight ogrim, go through the boss room- reach isma's grave

There u go

[north charm]

only hk videos i watched was every charm/mask/vessel frag/junk pit location

[north charm]

ok.

[misty moss]

acid skip aint that hard though, took me a few minutes to get it
i think the hardest ones are in kingdom's edge and isma's grove

[north charm]

how do you know exactly what you are doing though 👀

[tidal jewel]

Ddark makes everything ez

[crisp willow]

There is a simple key in an ealy room of city

[tidal jewel]

And one in basin

[north charm]

ok well you know about the key

[rich stone]

Iframes are just too OP

[north charm]

you know about the waterways

[tidal jewel]

But surely watcher knights can be reached without monarch right

[north charm]

but queen's gardens.. intentionally exploring there

[compact sphinx]

Baldur shell my goat

[north charm]

flying mantisses... early.

[hybrid holly]

How do I fight hornet 2

[north charm]

fight hornet 2

and dodge

[compact sphinx]

Kingdoms edge

[tidal jewel]

Come to kingdoms edge

[hybrid holly]

Ye but where

[crisp willow]

No, because you can find the water way'a entrace by pure chance- ans the diologue says "a simple lock"
Ya see

[hybrid holly]

Up?

[misty moss]

fragile flower flashbacks petra mantises are the worst

[tidal jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-primal-aspid-machine-gun-minigun-i-hate-it-gif-17572793

[compact sphinx]

flashbacks

[north charm]

yeah yo ucan tell by the keyhole yeah

but.. queen's gardens

why would you want to explore there

EARLY

[rich stone]

The fact that this charm is considered bad in main game when it's so good for AnyRad is crazy

[north charm]

queen's gardens has always been the 2nd last place i visit (before the hive)

[tidal jewel]

The soul casters in the soul sanctum and colosseum are genuinely some of the worst dogshit ever created

[tidal jewel]

How much hp does the shell actually have?

[misty moss]

lost a steel soul to this fucker, i was getting qslash and two of them stopped in the entrance and shot at me inside the cave, i got literally ambushed

[north charm]

its not good for anyrad.. its 100% needed its basically impossible without

[crisp willow]

Whilist exploring fog canyon, one of the first things you find is the acid lake

If you have a decent memory, once obtaining isma's tear (wich literally says go swim in acid bitch) you will go to the lake

[rich stone]

It can take 4 hits

[tidal jewel]

Quit out button

[north charm]

no way you intentionally wanna go there though

[crisp willow]

Why not

[north charm]

the second you see fying mantises, enemies with spikes

FROGS JUMPING AROUND THE PLACE

[tidal jewel]

Like 4 normal hits or 4 nkg type hits

[north charm]

going in ith 6 masks at most

unlikely a full vessel fragment

[rich stone]

4 any type hits

[misty moss]

couldve done that yeah
most of the time i forget about it until its too late though

[north charm]

channelled nail at most

[tidal jewel]

Oh dang

[misty moss]

shouldve quit the moment i got the charm

[finite ember]

where was hornet 2 again i just went on a super huge grinding sesh caused I WASNT prepared I AM NOW

[tidal jewel]

Yeah

[misty moss]

kingdoms edge

[crisp willow]

Up right

[north charm]

center right of kingdom's edge

nvm

[tidal jewel]

Quick slash early is literally a death sentence

[north charm]

i was thinking of markoth

[tidal jewel]

Get to the place with the tent

[compact sphinx]

Nah the moment i saw the stag sign i speedran to the bench

[tidal jewel]

Where you can see outside of hallownest

[compact sphinx]

How and why

[north charm]

samee....

[north charm]

oh come on

kingdom's edge

great hoppers

[tidal jewel]

Not killing any enemies

Cus you can’t

[north charm]

primal aspids

[misty moss]

nah, you just need to ignore everything in the way, hoppers and aspids are pretty slow actually

[tidal jewel]

Dude 1 lil hopper takes like 7 hits

[crisp willow]

Thwory: the tent is made out of a seal, thus the knight cant leave

[compact sphinx]

I somehow nohit the run on my first playthrough...

[misty moss]

6 hits with sharpened nail

[north charm]

at most you'll have mothwing cloak and mantis lcaw

[tidal jewel]

Primal aspids are like 4 hits

[misty moss]

and cdash

[north charm]

oh yeah you need it if you dont got ismas

[misty moss]

you dont need it for qslash

[devout dome]

why is radiant markoth lwk easy

[tidal jewel]

It’s crazy that the colosseum paspids can survive a whole ddark, 2 pure nail hits or half of a shamaned abyss shriek

[misty moss]

but i like using it to ignore the big bad giant hoppers

[compact sphinx]

I now have a genocidal urge

[opaque citrus]

this wasnt that hard

[tidal jewel]

Said no one ever

[compact sphinx]

My 3rd radiant

[misty moss]

now that is a death sentence, i tried getting colo pale ore early and gave up cause of how tanky the enemies are

[devout dome]

i just finished up my radiant godhome and beat him second try

probably just got lucky

[tidal jewel]

Yeah

[opaque citrus]

some guy was exaggerating marmu radiant SO MUCH

[tidal jewel]

Idk what they fed the aspids in the colosseum

[rich stone]

Unless you partial hit with Ddark and have a low nail level that's not possible

[compact sphinx]

I now have a universal murder urge

WHY IS MY LUCK BAD

[finite ember]

this game is the worst.

[devout dome]

lol

[compact sphinx]

Did u go deepnest early

[tidal jewel]

Deepnest is like blighttown but blighttown isn’t as scary

[misty moss]

deepnest without lantern

[crisp willow]

Deepnest is one of the best areas in the hame

[finite ember]

no i died in the infected crossroads

[compact sphinx]

Ah yes

[shy patio]

I was just progressing on my 2nd save file and a death got me doing an entire tour 😭
I was at greenpath, travelled all the way to kill mantis lords, went into deepnest, got the tram pass, died, then wentto ancient basin into resting grounds and the king station, im gonna sell stuff to lenn or whathever his name was just to buy a stag and go to jiji

[worldly vigil]

SALUTATIONS HUMANOIDS

[north charm]

liar

[finite ember]

and my bench is mantis lords

[worldly vigil]

Hello there [Big Shot!]

[north charm]

maybe i just suck at the game

[compact sphinx]

Dang

[misty moss]

why didnt you sit on the bench in the failed tram

[finite ember]

i really need to get stag markers

[worldly vigil]

hate p5 markoth

[finite ember]

grh

[devout dome]

i just watched a tutorial vid on it and it was pretty straight forward

[shy patio]

I did

[worldly vigil]

like

[shy patio]

I was just too lazy bc i died on a very dark zone

[north charm]

i probably just suck at the game

[worldly vigil]

WHY DOES HIS ARENA HAVE NO FLOOR

[devout dome]

i basically only attacked during the shield spin phase

[north charm]

cause

[compact sphinx]

U can pogo him like 5 times when he first spawns in case it helps

[shy patio]

So i traveled 70% of hallownest instead

[worldly vigil]

ah ty

[north charm]

markoth is a fucker

for no reason

[worldly vigil]

fr

[misty moss]

thats crazy

[compact sphinx]

Fr

[worldly vigil]

112% game btw

[devout dome]

ya i still despise him

glad it didnt take me long to get radiant i wouldve tilted hard

[rich stone]

That just makes the fight soo long

[misty moss]

i love how universally hated markoth is

[worldly vigil]

fr

[north charm]

i still have markoth and watchers to radiant (which i definitely have done)

fr

[shy patio]

I was just very deep into somewhere dark on 5 masks 😭

I couldnt redo that

[rich stone]

There are still somehow people who like Markoth

[crisp willow]

Its a random, unpredictable boss, thus takes longer to get good at it esp in radiant fights

Patience and knowing when to move is what helped me mostly

[hybrid holly]

I reached the colosseum of fools but still haven't found hornet, where she at

[north charm]

you dont got a lantern?

[devout dome]

ya its def a patience game

[north charm]

they are not people

[misty moss]

lorewise hes pretty cool

[compact sphinx]

Drop down from COF a little and head right

[shy patio]

I spawned in the save file and ran directly to the dash i didnt have enough time to save up

[north charm]

idk ive had loads of patience with fights going for 5 minutes

and only being down a bit of health

and yet fucking 10 hours has gone to him and no outcome

[fluid sigil]

am i fried

[compact sphinx]

If I ever do Markoth on radiant I am going to get the maximum chance on carefree melody

[misty moss]

you didnt get desolate dive?

[rich stone]

Like the only reason they like Markoth is because he is hard nothing else

[north charm]

gpz i think

image aint loading

yup

[compact sphinx]

Lock in and no hit trust

[shy patio]

I was so fast intelligence didnt catch up to me

[north charm]

good fucking luck mate

[fluid sigil]

ima lock in

[shy patio]

I only have vengeful spirit, mantis claw and mothwing cloak

[north charm]

kinda forced to no hit

[north charm]

and you explored 80% of the map

wtf.

[shy patio]

Hehe !

[tidal jewel]

Imagine nkg had an attack where he just screamed at you

[rich stone]

Healing in GPZ outside staggers is hard

[fluid sigil]

i made it lol

[north charm]

technically its good enough with some areas being restricted to future abilities

[north charm]

ok well that works.

[misty moss]

oof, going into deepnest that early doesnt make much sense

[devout dome]

thats what he does at the start of the fight

[north charm]

🧀

[devout dome]

not really an attack tho

[shy patio]

With also no nail upgrades, 5 masks, dashmaster and gathering swarm

[tidal jewel]

Not nkg

[north charm]

what he does

[devout dome]

oh wait nvm

[fluid sigil]

ye now i died

[tidal jewel]

He doesn’t even bow

[devout dome]

thats just grimm

[north charm]

its only grimm im pretty sure questio mark

[shy patio]

I just knew the map lol

[hidden spire]

I'm close to 100% completion another game hell yeah

[north charm]

do you have lantern?

[worldly vigil]

best run of P5 I've gotten to is PV

[hybrid holly]

I fought the first trial, guess where I died

[worldly vigil]

died to lag though

[shy patio]

I went into very dark areas because im so smart and died

[north charm]

at the end

[shy patio]

I had 800 geo

Im gonna get it back with jiji

[hybrid holly]

Primal aspids when the floor becomes spikes

[north charm]

thats a start.

[compact sphinx]

I have 1 singular build for the entirety of p5 that has never failed me

[misty moss]

i mean, you dont have anything to do there other than killing galien, getting the tram pass and opening stag station

[north charm]

44% done!!

[worldly vigil]

what?

[shy patio]

I wanted to kill herrah as fast as possible

[misty moss]

without the dream nail?

[north charm]

herrah out of all dreamers 💀 WITHOUT LANTERN

and without dream nail

[shy patio]

Oh
Right

💀

[misty moss]

lmao

[compact sphinx]

Quickslash, quickfocus(u can heal 2x per pv stagger and also in between nkg spikes), heart and strength

[shy patio]

About that

[foggy sable]

herrah no lantern is fine but you sort of need dream nail

[shy patio]

I dont know hoe to get to resting grounds

[north charm]

you can heal 3

comfortably

i lways heal 3

without quick focus

[misty moss]

do you know where descending darkness is?

[compact sphinx]

Not if he teleports into a groundslam

[rich stone]

Even without Quick Focus you can heal in all of NKG attacks

[north charm]

waiwt my ass thought it was nkg

[foggy sable]

you could do darknest to get to distant village, get the tram pass then do right side city from there

[north charm]

MY ASS THOUGHTI T WAS NKG 😭

[hybrid holly]

Explore crystal pesk

Peak

[north charm]

NKG 😭

[misty moss]

nah but they would need desolate dive

[shy patio]

I only know where the movement upgrades, dream nail and vengeful spirit are bro 🙏💔

[misty moss]

do this

[misty moss]

since you got the tram pass, go to forgotten crossroads and use the tram there

it goes to resting grounds

[hidden spire]

Under there

[compact sphinx]

Crystallised mound in peaks

[shy patio]

Im in king's station give me a day to sleep first bruh

[worldly vigil]

i've used q focus, strength, carefree melody and sharp shadow

[compact sphinx]

I dont rec sharp shadow for pv

[hybrid holly]

yo where tf is hornet

[north charm]

just cdash over the drop to resting grounds 👀

[worldly vigil]

fair

[misty moss]

sharp shadow is good for pv wdym

[hidden spire]

She's down there bruh

[north charm]

get te braekable wall to the bench.

[crisp willow]

Not in all of them

[compact sphinx]

Extra dmg but if u stagger pv mid dash u die

[worldly vigil]

over there

[north charm]

what sharp shadow is good for pv alone

[hidden spire]

Oh nvm

[north charm]

pv, thk, traitor lord, watchers

[hidden spire]

I forgot

[shy patio]

Ohh i can go to resting grounds like that and get dream nail then kill lurien

Thanks !

[misty moss]

what, just count the nail hits

[north charm]

like the only bosses where sharp shadow is good

[compact sphinx]

Pv and nothing else

[rich stone]

You can technically heal in all of his attacks for some attacks it's a bit risky

[north charm]

pv, thk, traitor lod, watcers

[worldly vigil]

fair

[compact sphinx]

U go do that sure i use quickslash 😭

[hidden spire]

I think sshadow would just ruin your muscle memories and will just make you depend on it (in a bad way) too much

[north charm]

i count too

[compact sphinx]

I dash into their faces too much no thanks:<

[north charm]

with qs

[crisp willow]

Risky is the key word- why be hasty

[north charm]

then dont dash into their faces 🤷‍♂️

[misty moss]

i only heal when hes staggered

[empty cosmos]

quick slash: gifted power
sharp shadow: pure effort

[hidden spire]

I also rather pogo when they dash

[compact sphinx]

If ur homeless just buy a house

[hybrid holly]

i broke it and find a bathing spot

[compact sphinx]

Yea pogo is much better

[misty moss]

pogo dps is lower imo

[rich stone]

I would say for the bats and fire pillars it's easy to get a heal and not too hard on the uppercut and spikes and very hard on the downdash attack

[compact sphinx]

How

[kind kestrel]

pogo is the goat

[north charm]

you can pogo yeah

[compact sphinx]

If u have strength its def more dmg

[north charm]

one two three four with a jump

compared to one two three four just standing

IDK WHAT THE UNMBERS DID I TYPED THE NUMBERS FASTER OR SLOWER

[misty moss]

sharp shadow in the same direction as pv to nail spam does more damage

[north charm]

i would like to save my shade cloak for when i need to dash...

[rich stone]

That should work using Spells are also very useful against NKG

[north charm]

but i normally pogo

[compact sphinx]

Still more risky as u can use shade dash as on oh shit button if u mainly pogo

[north charm]

same

[misty moss]

dragging on the fight with pv is more risky

[shrewd nymph]

Sshadow

[compact sphinx]

I heal if no runes spawn on my face

[misty moss]

i tried doing that but

they ALWAYS spawn on my face

[subtle phoenix]

fuck you markoth (finally holy shit)

[compact sphinx]

In p5 i usually just tank pv since u restore hp for absrad anyws

[empty cosmos]

you shouldn't need to shade dash a lot tbh

[hidden spire]

Like, whenever I use sharp shadow it somehow makes my brain think to always shade cloak. It is especially horrible when in phase 3 you manage to dash into the tentacle attack

[compact sphinx]

Yea asc markoth took me so long as well baldur shell saved my life

[hidden spire]

pv ofcourse

[burnt steppe]

do all bosses radiant trust

[crisp willow]

Essier to harder:

Spikes -> pillars -> upper cut (soft rng) -> bats (rng) -> puffer (heavy rng) -> downdash

[crisp willow]

Imo

[compact sphinx]

Yeah i transitioned on the opposite side of the earth from sharp shadow after that happened 3 p4 attempts in a row

[shrewd nymph]

Whats this ranking?

[rich stone]

For the bats you just jump over the 1st one and the second lower bat will never hit you

[subtle phoenix]

after i beat p

p5

[hidden spire]

I matured and became a better person after unequipping sharp shadow

[rich stone]

How easy it is to heal against NKG attacks

[crisp willow]

How easy it is to heal after/in a nkg attack

[compact sphinx]

The bats arent rlly rng just jump and dash straight to him the moment he opens cloak

[shrewd nymph]

They should all be easy except dash dive

[north charm]

spikes, pillars, bats, puffer, uppercut, downdash

for me

[misty moss]

i couldnt do that since you can only tank 5-6 hits from him and he keeps teleporting which difficults dealing significant dmg, and I'm not that confident

[shrewd nymph]

every attack can be healed on

Except puffer

[north charm]

but they are all simple

[shrewd nymph]

Consistently*

[crisp willow]

I know, but sometimes your position just fucks it up

[fluid sigil]

do radiant markoth

[burnt steppe]

do all pantheons all bindings

[misty moss]

downdash is the easiest wdym

[north charm]

oh nice... just radiant time!! good luck

[rich stone]

That's why you don't move towards the boss if your planning on healing

[crisp willow]

Elaborate

[shrewd nymph]

Literally the only hard one what

😭

[misty moss]

what

[subtle phoenix]

no!

[misty moss]

just jump

[shrewd nymph]

Its for healing gng

[subtle phoenix]

to heal

[burnt steppe]

so youre bad at hk

[subtle phoenix]

im guessing

[compact sphinx]

Oh wait by tank i mean for his downslash and runes since i can get good dmg

[misty moss]

oh

[empty cosmos]

How do u heal at all against dashdive you have like no time bc he starts the next atk instantly😭

[crisp willow]

ya stoopid

[misty moss]

sorry

lol

[subtle phoenix]

i am

[shrewd nymph]

every attack can consistently and easily be healed on but down dash

[misty moss]

oopsie

[shrewd nymph]

Not including puffer bc godpixel is silly

[empty cosmos]

do absrad ascended atleast🙏

[hybrid holly]

I killed the bug with the simple key, now wehre the fuck is hornet

[misty moss]

shade dash in the opposite direction with qfocus should be possible i think

[compact sphinx]

I died on the asc absrad climb...

[misty moss]

but its pretty hard

[subtle phoenix]

how if i dont have it unlocked yet

[shrewd nymph]

As he lands you dash through him

[rich stone]

Yea healing in NKG is way easier compared to PV

[empty cosmos]

go unlock it

[shrewd nymph]

not worth healing on dash dive though

[hybrid holly]

I got the simple key, now where's hornet...

[misty moss]

better to punish him

[frozen storm]

Ggs

[empty cosmos]

do you see that giant gap in ur map

[misty moss]

think i can cram 3 nail hits on dash dive

[shrewd nymph]

I mean its just too hard to bother

[wary hound]

yo

[compact sphinx]

U got the simple key first😭

[hybrid holly]

ye

[crisp willow]

JUST FUCKING EXPLORE

[frozen storm]

Below

[compact sphinx]

W name beast is peak

[hybrid holly]

don't wanna

[rich stone]

I usually just heal in every attack other than down dash and pufferfish for NKG if I get hit

[wary hound]

IS it time

for

P4 ab

[empty cosmos]

Why are you playing hk😭

[frozen storm]

I never heal in nkg

[shrewd nymph]

smart

[compact sphinx]

Good luck

[wary hound]

and factual statement

[crisp willow]

WHY ARE YOY PLAYING A GAME THAT IS 80% EXPLORIMG THAN

[frozen storm]

For the bosses

[hybrid holly]

fights

[wary hound]

ehhh u can heal during staggers

[frozen storm]

Let him enjoy the game the way he wanna

[empty cosmos]

I forgot u could fight enemy

[compact sphinx]

Who needs blue tools when you have fury

[wary hound]

nah im asking do i or do i not do it

[frozen storm]

Yeah only during that

[hybrid holly]

well I just want general directions hehe

[shrewd nymph]

Have you done p3ab w gpz

[hidden spire]

Play a more linear game then

[compact sphinx]

DO IT

[wary hound]

havent even done normal

wel

i havent done p3ab at all

[shrewd nymph]

you done p1-2ab?

[compact sphinx]

P3ab seems harder tho

[wary hound]

ofc

[compact sphinx]

Personal opinion

[frozen storm]

Are you having fun?

[shrewd nymph]

Then do p4ab for sure

[wary hound]

i agree

[shrewd nymph]

With gpz its notably harder

[crisp willow]

that is not general direction that is asking you to be babied through the whole fucking game

[misty moss]

oro and mato on p1ab are so tanky, fight lasts forever

[wary hound]

my last attempt i died on failed champion

[crisp willow]

Trueee

[shrewd nymph]

hes the hardest part of it

so get him down and ur chilling

[rich stone]

I think them together have more hp than AbsRad

[frozen storm]

But the exploit

[wary hound]

markoth?

[hybrid holly]

i like this one just fine

[shrewd nymph]

What?

[compact sphinx]

Nah aint no way

[shrewd nymph]

Grounded markoth

[hybrid holly]

yea

[wary hound]

its ab

[misty moss]

nope, should be around 1500 hp, abs rad has over 2 thousand

[wary hound]

wdym

OH

i have ground

I C

[rich stone]

He has a floor so he isin't too hard

[hidden spire]

Okay, have fun!
-# play nine sols or I'll kill you /j

[frozen storm]

Yeah but a shriek still does a good amount of damage

[hybrid holly]

woah that's a bad word

[shrewd nymph]

3/4 hard AB bosses are p5 exclusive

[wary hound]

yeh i forgot im used to ascended markoth

[shrewd nymph]

Bc of ascended arena

[hybrid holly]

when it's cheaper/ when I have less games on my backlog

[frozen storm]

They do

[wary hound]

yeh no eyes markoth and wats the other one

[misty moss]

there are no bad words, only bad people

[frozen storm]

If you don't count the 7th phase hp

[hidden spire]

mmkay

[shrewd nymph]

Not no eyes. Its gpz, markoth, absrad and collector

[crisp willow]

No?

[misty moss]

yes

[crisp willow]

That makes like

[misty moss]

dont badmouth my baby words

[crisp willow]

No sense

[wary hound]

oh ur reffering to p5 in general?

[shrewd nymph]

Ab in general

[wary hound]

fair

fair

[shrewd nymph]

P1-4ab is fine except gpz

[wary hound]

i meant that

[compact sphinx]

He's not completely wrong

[misty moss]

words are pure

[hybrid holly]

bruh i just want my shade cloak ugh

[shrewd nymph]

Pretty close to it

[frozen storm]

Then keep asking for help or googling, but exploring is fun too

[misty moss]

words are the hollow knight

[wary hound]

yeh well im just happy i still enjoy this game

[compact sphinx]

Yeah I found hornet by complete accident

[hybrid holly]

I explored everywhere that's in the general vicinity of colo of fools

[wary hound]

what are u trying to get

[frozen storm]

Look for places that have an entrance on the map

[frozen storm]

Shade cloak

[compact sphinx]

Horni

[real pasture]

Shade cloak close to colo?

[hybrid holly]

ok

[wary hound]

are u refering to the character in hollow knight inspired from silksong

[hybrid holly]

hornet

[frozen storm]

You need king's brand

[compact sphinx]

Ah yes indeed I am what a refined individual🍷

[misty moss]

funny because theres nothing in that part of the map except for colo and the fool with simple key

[real pasture]

So king’s brand, no shade cloak yet

[wary hound]

wait ik where that is

[hybrid holly]

guess we go down

[shrewd meadow]

Cortifer

[misty moss]

cornyfer

[real pasture]

Hi thwowy

[frozen storm]

He's trying to get shade cloak

[shrewd meadow]

when flukemogus

you have to follow through with it eventually

[frozen storm]

If you're trying to get something, you need to follow the steps

[real pasture]

They’ve been trying for a long time iirc

But good luck to this new venture

[frozen storm]

One of the steps is in king's edge

[hybrid holly]

i got isma's then monarch's wings and now i'm getting king's brand

[real pasture]

The terms of this are still debated smh

[shrewd meadow]

no it was pretty clear I just had to do r5 dashless without ever getting hit to flukemarm in any attempts

and I was never hit to flukemarm

[real pasture]

Before I did r5 myself tho

[shrewd meadow]

that was never a stipulation

[real pasture]

But my laziness rn after many years is

Also I did change my name once

[wary hound]

wah

[shrewd meadow]

[wary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-honkai-star-rail-cipher-hsr-cipherhonkai-hsr-gif-15387791017556363119

[shrewd meadow]

bro stole my gif

[wary hound]

yes

i did

[real pasture]

Smh

[wary hound]

i have been waiting for this

[shrewd meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-evernight-kitasan-black-gif-13604167990009950945

[finite ember]

HOW DO I GET HERHEHREHE

top right btw

[shrewd meadow]

you climb

[wary hound]

climb

u must

or become a vengefly and fly up

[rose peak]

U have mantis claw?

[wary hound]

one would asssume

[finite ember]

I HAVE FIGURED OUT I AM the shit

[civic temple]

Is this some kind of kickstarters message or something?

[rose peak]

How do u have it on mobile?

[wary hound]

idk but one says father we need growth

[civic temple]

Idk

Lol

[wary hound]

y wouldnt he

[rose peak]

Idfk

[shrewd meadow]

piracy

[finite ember]

CANT EVEN GOI INTO KINGDOMS EDGE waste of time!!!!!

[clear sinew]

instead of taking the elevator , wall climb up and then crystal dash to the entrance

[real pasture]

If this is the one in resting grounds, then yep - should be the messages of the backers

[shrewd meadow]

if you ask me, it's kind of ironic given they pirated the game

they're the very opposite of a backer

[finite ember]

ALL IT IS IS A TINY FUCKING ROOM what do i do??? i just want to get to hornet gng

[real pasture]

The messages are from the backers - the guy posting the screenshot is most definitely not

[wary hound]

uhh go to kings station

[clear sinew]

Then take the other route throught the stag

[real pasture]

But hey, that ship has sailed long ago

[wind garnet]

corter and throwing

[finite ember]

what

which one

[wary hound]

wat

[clear sinew]

The fake one under the real king station stag

[shrewd meadow]

hi suscar good night suscar I go sleep now

[wary hound]

u see that lil pathway from the right side to left side theres a secret fake wall u can go thrugh in the BROKEN stag

[finite ember]

FUCK I DIDNT KNOW

[real pasture]

Hola

[wary hound]

suscat rad bi ab old nail , nail only??? im sorry

[wary hound]

i figurerd

[wind garnet]

?

[wary hound]

nothing nothing

anyways how is pure vessel going

[wind garnet]

also dont spam ping reply

thanks

[wary hound]

i can try and remember to turn reply ping offf

[onyx wigeon]

Hi I'm old

[wind garnet]

and i dont have a lot of time to pure vessel lately working on itemless all bindings pogoless

[stark surge]

why is menderbug so annoyingly rare? last entry for the journal which is the last achievement im missing

[agile pewter]

lame.

[wind garnet]

this is true

[wary hound]

fair enough i have been attempting the pantheons ab im on p4ab but its so terrible

[stark surge]

hollow knight is the first game i get all achievements in

[celest frigate]

help

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Mask_Shard_(Hollow_Knight)#How_to_Acquire

[wind garnet]

nah bro

good luck with that

[wary hound]

y send an entire link instead of specifiying ur problem

[wind garnet]

#hk-help

[wary hound]

u have just sent an irrelevant link that informs near 0 information to us

[onyx wigeon]

This is so cool I wish this game came out of demo

[wary hound]

huh

[stark surge]

ayyy i got menderbug!

time to get that hunters mark

[agile pewter]

find a checklist of all the mask shards in the game, then look that those locations and figure out yourself which ones you remember having taken

there's like 16 mask shards, we're not gonna help you for every one of them

[real pasture]

Just a note that menderbug is not required for the hunter’s mark

But gg for getting him

[stark surge]

to late

[real pasture]

Also you monster

How could you

[wary hound]

I desire

true completion

[agile pewter]

hitless p5 when?

[real pasture]

[wary hound]

😭 after p5ab

[agile pewter]

[real pasture]

Are you sure of what you desire?

[wary hound]

YES

i desire

PEAKNESS

[stark surge]

are you kidding me? he still tells me i am missing some

[real pasture]

Btw the last thing I got for true completion was not r5

[wary hound]

wat was it

[real pasture]

Was a silly geo rock somewhere

[stark surge]

i thought the dlc ones are not required

is seal of binding required?

[real pasture]

Nope

[wind garnet]

what a way to go out

[real pasture]

Ikr

[wary hound]

https://reznormichael.github.io/hollow-knight-completion-check/ put a copy of ur save file it will tell u wat ur missing

[real pasture]

Peak true completion

[wary hound]

im so far from it

[wind garnet]

this reminds me of when yato left hk and discord and his last activity was being in a steady body argument

[real pasture]

[pliant cape]

what

i opened hollow knight

what happened

[wind garnet]

really rare btw

[pliant cape]

ho

[wind garnet]

debug mod chance

[real pasture]

Yup

Pretty fun given the recent updates lol

[wind garnet]

im pushing like 2,500 hours and i got it once bruh extremely recently too

but i know players with like half that who got it a few times maybe i just didnt notice.

[wary hound]

thats alot of hours

but u have been playing for a while

[magic glacier]

i've got it once or twice

[wary hound]

like 2-3 years is the minimmum

[wind garnet]

late 2023

[wary hound]

i have 2 years to catch up to u or 2200 hours dam

[wind garnet]

what if i keep playing

sun and moon chase

[wary hound]

ur not moon tho

[subtle phoenix]

i hit 134.8 hours

[wary hound]

lune is mooon

[wary hound]

nice are u still horrible or

[magic glacier]

apparently once in october 2023 and then may 2024

[subtle phoenix]

kinda

[wind garnet]

wow like a few months apart

[wary hound]

p5 when?

[wind garnet]

due for a new one soon

[magic glacier]

true...

might have gotten it more but idr and i can't find evidence

[subtle phoenix]

idk man

[wind garnet]

i swear i never get it man

and i opened hk 900 times last year

[wary hound]

i think u could do it with ascended hog

[magic glacier]

october 2023 is weird i had been playing with mods for like 2-3 months by then

[wind garnet]

oh right

[wary hound]

1 attempt getting absrad unlock and then the next beating it

[wind garnet]

wow you werent even like a year gap from my clear

[subtle phoenix]

whos hog again

[wary hound]

hall of god

[stark surge]

don't have internet on my pc rn so i have to ask here. Zote better not be required thats the only one i don't have when going through the online list

[magic glacier]

no i only beat it like 4 months or so before you lol

[subtle phoenix]

yeah

my pb is uh

[magic glacier]

or 5

[subtle phoenix]

nkg

[magic glacier]

idk math hard

[subtle phoenix]

i got it yesterday

[wary hound]

zote can be left for dead and u can full complete the ame

[wind garnet]

bro

[short spear]

Rescuing Zote literally makes getting 112% harder

Bad design

[wary hound]

no

its good

they punish us

[real pasture]

That’s… an opinion

[wary hound]

for saving it

[wind garnet]

dont be lame

fight zote

[tidal jewel]

Never fight zote

[wary hound]

i havent done him in my p3 but soon ima have to

[stark surge]

then idk what i am missing.

[wary hound]

https://reznormichael.github.io/hollow-knight-completion-check/ have u tried this?

at all

ITS SUPER USEFUL also
void tendrils
garpede

[misty moss]

no, you dont need to fight gpz even if you save him

you can just save him and not dream nail the statue

[wary hound]

if u never succeed in beating him

u never fight him in p3 or p5

[stark surge]

i don't have internet rn xD if i can't find it i'll use this later

[subtle phoenix]

should have never fought him 😔

[wary hound]

OH I SEE IM SO SORRY

[fluid sigil]

how are u talking then

[wary hound]

data

[midnight flume]

guys am i cooking rn

[wary hound]

nah

[stark surge]

Mobile data on my phone

[wary hound]

but its a good boss so gg

[fluid sigil]

hotspot

[misty moss]

nice

[wind garnet]

yes but what build

[wary hound]

grimm child where

[misty moss]

carefree melody

[subtle phoenix]

since i have all ascended on hog i can start doing p5 now!

[misty moss]

called it

hah

[wary hound]

ZNOOOO

[wind garnet]

chopped

[subtle phoenix]

then ill go to radiant hog

[wary hound]

yes when u get to absrad u get hiim consistent attuned/ascended

[misty moss]

imagine using carefree melody in radhog

[wary hound]

should take u 2 attempts for p5 if ur consistent with the ascended forms of the bosses

[midnight flume]

nah jk i have grimchild

this was my build

[wary hound]

NOT BAD

but

[misty moss]

why soul catcher instead of shaman stone

[wary hound]

I WOULD have swapped soul catcher with shaman

[tired mountain]

Hype moments and aura

[wind garnet]

lmao

[misty moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fma-fullmetal-alchemist-armstrong-bromance-viril-gif-16049606

[wind garnet]

as other people pointed out you couldve overcharmed something better

[wary hound]

soul eater also

if u want more soul

[wind garnet]

does the same thing but better lol

[midnight flume]

i was very sleep deprived when i chose that build

[misty moss]

yeah

[young light]

people!

[wind garnet]

lol its ok ive done the same

[tired mountain]

Remove longnail

[young light]

hornet senetail is killing me

[gilded gate]

And goose

[midnight flume]

and it didnt hit me tht i could use shaman stone

[wary hound]

So wat parts

[young light]

and goose ok

[wind garnet]

its catcher

[misty moss]

its pride mark

[tidal jewel]

Mop is goo tho

[misty moss]

mark of 🏳️‍🌈

[tired mountain]

Nau

Nah

I never got the appeal of mop and longnail

[misty moss]

i can see how it would be useful

[tidal jewel]

They make ur nail longer

[wary hound]

more range = u can hit from father = u are less close = u take less damage

[misty moss]

but it feels like a crutch sometimes

[tired mountain]

Yes i still dont get the appeal

[tidal jewel]

Also more punishes on certain bosses like collector

Stops you from getting head from pv when he bends down

[tired mountain]

Ur already pretty safe in the game ngl

[young light]

hay i have coiled nail shade soul howling wraiths desending dark mantis claw mawthing cloak and i keep getting wreked

[tired mountain]

🤔

[wind garnet]

or just get close and not get hit

smh

[wary hound]

its more of it makes people more consistent with certain things for me theirs a specific move that I LIKE to be greed on that i can double hit that most dont double hit rather than great slash or single hit

[wary hound]

thats called being good at the game something i have not obtained

[young light]

please people

[misty moss]

go a step further, just hit the boss always and never get hit, dont use any charms, dont use spells, just get good /s

[young light]

guys

[tidal jewel]

Who are you struggling with?

[young light]

hornet II

[tired mountain]

U will struggle against her

[tidal jewel]

Get her in a corner

[midnight flume]

get decending dark and and GIT GUD

[tired mountain]

No

[young light]

she jumps a lot

[misty moss]

descending darn lol

[wind garnet]

bro changed his profile to hk before beating hornet 2

[tidal jewel]

Yeah then spam ddark with twister shaman

[misty moss]

jump with her and hit with nail

[tidal jewel]

Did you get quick slash yet?

[tulip narwhal]

Waddup

[young light]

well i didn't get that yet

[magic glacier]

🐴

[wind garnet]

theres a chance he doesnt have ddark

[magic glacier]

idk you tell me

[young light]

yes

[young light]

i have

[wind garnet]

[tired mountain]

U dont need any charm to beat hornet 2

Its a difficulty spike

[misty moss]

technically

you dont need any charms to beat any boss

[wind garnet]

technically dont need anything but

[young light]

but what

[wind garnet]

thats besides the point

[tidal jewel]

Quick slash shamans spell twister spam ddark when you get the chance to and try not to die

[young light]

where to get spell twister?

[tired mountain]

I dont heavily suggest u get the op charms in 1/3rd of the game

[tidal jewel]

Soul sanctum

[young light]

i have shaman stone not that

[young light]

ok

but currently i decided to try and get a pure nail first i have coiled already

[tidal jewel]

Hmm

What pale ores are u missing?

[hidden spire]

Bughhhh I suck I'm never 100%-ing hollow knight. Steel soul seems like a hassle

[tired mountain]

Hornets hp go up the more upgrade ur nail afaik

[tidal jewel]

So does dung defender

[tired mountain]

Ok ?

[young light]

i have one

[tidal jewel]

But defender takes like 100 hits with broken and 30 smth with pure

It’s going to make some difference

[hidden spire]

Is it tho?

[tired mountain]

Yes

[hidden spire]

doesn't it only do that for dream bosses

[visual verge]

watcher knights are hardest

[tired mountain]

Not worth getting late game nail over

[magic glacier]

doesn't

[tired mountain]

The diff is like 10

[young light]

wait now i'm knowing that!? i've upgraded my nail to coiled i thought only worrior dreams go harder

[pliant cape]

i got like 70 hours and this is my first time

[hidden spire]

it doesn't affect hornet's health

[tidal jewel]

Well he wants to beat the boss

[visual verge]

only dream bosses

[hidden spire]

It only affect dream warrior's

[midnight flume]

its only warriors dw

[tired mountain]

No

[hidden spire]

??

what

[magic glacier]

it affects some other bosses and random enemies but not hornet 2

[young light]

question howling wraiths is good against hornet

[hidden spire]

I guess

I never really used it

[wary hound]

after every stagger she jumps so if u do it their its good

[hidden spire]

(against hornet)

[young light]

ok thanks guys

[tired mountain]

No

[young light]

why

[wary hound]

it is

[tired mountain]

Cant really use it

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[wary hound]

after every stagger she dry jumps

so

[tired mountain]

I dont think that guy can do that

If he could do that i would suggest go meta and kill abs rad

[wary hound]

doesnt mean its not useful

[young light]

i'll train in queens garden

[hidden spire]

How did we get to absrad

aren't we talking about hornet

[misty moss]

honestly just using steady body with quick slash and pinning her on the wall should do the trick

[wary hound]

we are talking about hornet sentinel

[hidden spire]

I know

[wary hound]

yeh this guy just said absrad for no reason

[tired mountain]

U mean the bug ?

[hidden spire]

He's summoning the damned souls

[pliant cape]

kurbaga what are you even talking about

[misty moss]

she aint a bug shes a spider /j

[tired mountain]

My point is giving hard tricks to a guy whos just beating hornet for the first time wont help

[young light]

believe me and i say it when i beat her if someone talks about shaws i'll murder them

[hidden spire]

Bs

[misty moss]

howling wraith isnt a hard trick

its just a spell

[wary hound]

its not A TRICK its actually not that hard

[pliant cape]

just hit her and insta spell

[wary hound]

yeh

[pliant cape]

when shes staggered btw

[wary hound]

and u can heal

then do that

[pliant cape]

yes

[ancient ravine]

This so lore accurate

[stark surge]

I was missing the frkin pale lurker

[young light]

now guys about charm line ups i have 9 notches

[stark surge]

i got it

[ancient ravine]

She pmo

[stark surge]

63/63 achievements

[ancient ravine]

Mop quickslash strenght/shaman stone

[young light]

hu?

[pliant cape]

when i got to pale lurker i just thought i had to chase her around till she gets to a dead end
i didnt fucking know she has to be killed

[misty moss]

bro didnt unlock all the simple locks

[pliant cape]

mark of pride

[young light]

oh ok

[ancient ravine]

Mark of pride

[hidden spire]

To be frank I only unlocked like, 2 of the simple locks

[hidden spire]

rofl

[hollow forge]

theres 4 simple keys in the entire game i think

[stark surge]

not on the savefile i am on rn. missing the pleasure house xD

[hollow forge]

one for waterways one for jiji one for godhome and i forgot what the last one was

[pliant cape]

rolling on floor lichen?

[hidden spire]

I only unlocked royal waterways and godhome

[pliant cape]

pleasure house

[misty moss]

lemme guess, royal waterways and godseeker cocoon

[hollow forge]

ah yeah

i forgot that had a lock

[hidden spire]

Bingo

[pliant cape]

anyways

is there a way to make randomizer check gathering easier?

[young light]

what about pleasure house

[pliant cape]

like a map of the checks maybe?

[pliant cape]

it requires a key to get in

[stark surge]

randomapmod

[young light]

https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight/maps/hallownest

[hidden spire]

Isn't really important

[misty moss]

you can get all achievements without ever opening it

[pliant cape]

thanks

[young light]

i know but the singing and the banker

[hidden spire]

Unless you fucked up and deposited all your life savinfs

[young light]

exactly!

[hollow forge]

it helps if you dont want to waste minutes getting to the colosseum and forgot to set up a dreamgate there

[tired mountain]

Does pleasure house even do anything

[pliant cape]

uhh

its a hot sprine

spring

[stark surge]

the banker goes there when she disappears

[tired mountain]

So does nothing

[misty moss]

you can get to the colosseum through the shortcut in the elevator

[pliant cape]

(in a not very dangerous area granted)

[young light]

narisa

[hollow forge]

yes its a spring + shortcut to kingdoms edge

[hollow forge]

yes thtas why i said its good

[misty moss]

its much faster

[hollow forge]

yeah

[misty moss]

than pleasure house

[hollow forge]

wait

[tired mountain]

I only opened it after i beat the game and found it to be bullshit

[pliant cape]

oh and millibelle gives you like 6.5k if you give her 4.5k geo

[hollow forge]

oh yeah

i mean it does help to have a spring there

[misty moss]

there's a spring in the colosseum

[hidden spire]

1.5x return investment is it

[young light]

narissa

[stark surge]

got the journal entry and the 112% achievements on a steelsoul file. i am never deleting that file

[pliant cape]

yep

[hollow forge]

2 springs are better than one

[misty moss]

darn it

[pliant cape]

damn

[hollow forge]

we need 3

[misty moss]

journal entry on steel soul? damn, how many hours did that take

[pliant cape]

imo city isnt that hard of an area to require a spring

[stark surge]

let me check

[stark surge]

• how long it took to finish the game about 7 hours

[tired mountain]

I dont remember an area that would require spring

[misty moss]

journal achievements are the most boring honestly

[pliant cape]

deepnest

[hollow forge]

its only hard if your sword is underleveled + dont use strength + dont have ddive

[misty moss]

only good part about it is reading the descriptions about the enemies

[tired mountain]

Nah

[hollow forge]

the annoying ass huge husks that deal a lot of damage can be killed easily otherwize

[pliant cape]

yeah no if u dont wanna fight them just pogo

oh wait theres one that blocks an entire path no?

[misty moss]

no

[pliant cape]

yeah no i got no idea what to do for that

[pliant cape]

really?

[misty moss]

actually

there are two grubs behind the giant ass bugs

[pliant cape]

come on man
if its your first time in deepnest wouldnt you be grateful to have a spring

[pliant cape]

yeah thats my point

[misty moss]

you need to kill at least two of them

[tired mountain]

Nah

[hollow forge]

oh wait i do think theres a good reason for pleasure house, whenever you sit you respawn all of the enemies that you killed, so it would be useful for grinding the huge guardians in that area

for geo

[pliant cape]

bro thinks hes slick

[pliant cape]

you.... GRIND GEO WITH GIANT HUSKS?!

[misty moss]

king station go brr

[stark surge]

i am always thankfull for the deepnest hotspring

[pliant cape]

agreed

[hollow forge]

i dont but some ppl do apparently

using fragile/unbreakable greed

[pliant cape]

how?!

[tired mountain]

I never got the deepnest hate

[pliant cape]

it doesnt even give a lot of geo

[misty moss]

one of the two best grinding spots for geo

with fragile greed they drop 80

theres about four or five of them

[stark surge]

it's an annoying area but by now i also don't really hate deepnest

[pliant cape]

hmm

[tired mountain]

Real hard areas come in the next game then you want a hot spring

[hollow forge]

id like deepnest more if there werent so many dead ends and if weavers den showed up on the map

[pliant cape]

that... actually makes sense

[misty moss]

why would it show on the map

[young light]

it's a stupid maze death lies in every corner

[hollow forge]

most secret rooms do

[misty moss]

its not a secret room its a secret area

[pliant cape]

i think he means sub area

[misty moss]

white palace doesnt show either

[hollow forge]

yea but white palace is in the dream realm and no area in the dream realm has a map

[pliant cape]

anyways sub areas are special cases
it can be either way

[wary hound]

because its in a mind

[hollow forge]

weavers den is in the physical world

[wary hound]

its not existent anymore

[misty moss]

ehhh

[wary hound]

its a sublocation like the hive

[pliant cape]

how is the hive a sublocation

[stark surge]

its one room

[pliant cape]

its an entire area

[hollow forge]

yeah and thats what bugs me, for instance the lifeblood core room you only have access to a single time yet it still shows up on the map

[misty moss]

honestly i dont think weaver's den that much of a hassle ever since i found out the shortcut with cdash and monarch wings

[wary hound]

u dont need to find the map for it

[tired mountain]

Hive actually needs a hot spring

[stark surge]

yes

[pliant cape]

yeah no i agree with you for once

the bench is far as FUCK from hive knight

[tired mountain]

Hive is some bullshit bro

[pliant cape]

agreed

[hollow forge]

i genuinely dont understand why kingdoms edge couldnt have a stag station

[tired mountain]

Only good way is to kill like all enemies there if u ignore them u get damaged too

[pliant cape]

its the edge of the kingdom
wwhat are the bugs going to go there for
to travel farther to lose their minds?

[misty moss]

it frustrastes me to no end that fungal wastes is so far from any stag station

[wary hound]

kings station is the closest to it so fair

[stark surge]

you have kings station which leads to the middle of kingdoms edge

[fluid sigil]

does the hollow knight time go up when you stop the game

[misty moss]

i mean you can reach it pretty fast from queen station or dirtmouth but still

[pliant cape]

do u mean the steam time or the world time

hmm

[fluid sigil]

world

[hollow forge]

no, i beat the game in less than 4 hours but it was closer to 6 and 2 of them were on the pause menu

[misty moss]

pause menu pauses the time

inventory doesnt

[tired mountain]

Its hollow knight o clock