||not just them bro all characters had that shit and it took away from shibuya arcs peakness it showed how weak sorcerers are without gojo and they cant even keep up with him even when he has 15 fingers but flash forward to shinjuku arc nearly all of the people that were "dead" or were severely injured were there like nothing happened and the same introduce character slightly damages sukuna character gets injured gets so boring after like the first 5 times it happens and its just too sunshine and rainbows ||
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If your friends jump off a bridge-
I think this is the third time the "ping = [emote]" thing has been adopted by like, three people other than me. 
YES
Did you start it?
Yes.
Where's the Trademark
No you didn't.
Who cares about you
and floggy had it before me
@smoky matrix When did you even start it
ping = horse
You literally stole ping=fox.
throw
nuh uh
Like. 2022.
hi romar
Damn
@tulip narwhal horse me
you wont
4 years ago
floggys nickname in this server absolutely sucks
Only One I Can Think Of Is ||Miguel||, Other Than That I Dont Really Get It 🤷
Is this a subliminal message
wtf
Dude, Floggy also stole ping=horse from me.
bro made 40 rooks and lost on time
Literally the entirety of shinjuku showdown bro
I am literally the creator.

Lmao no fucking way.
Pls dont make me name nearly all jjk characters
i can share the game but probably nobody cares lul
@quartz cave
@smoky matrix
Baldy.
who told you to do that oswald
I Think You Just Hate It Since You Never Reread It 🤷
thats evil
@young lake
@quartz cave
wtf why is your bigger
you did ##
@shrewd meadow
sigh,,,, what do u want 🙄
Bro wdym by this lmao that shit was boring as fuck i didnt even catch up weekly i read it it was bad i gave up till it ended then i read all of it
ym
mod abuse
Osbald. Look at my fucking art in #art-and-music.
L should have been a mod
omw
LMAAAAOOOOOO.
INSANE.
oswald you have like so many great images
@mild sorrel best attempt so far, died to greed
https://youtu.be/bOQp_S14p2o?si=UHsLq_fIGvF0cW6t
Only time i was caught up on was ||yuta controlling gojos body|| and even then in 5 chapters he did nothing and basically went afk for the rest of the fight
thats a hobby of mine
@quartz cave baldwald
This shit is actually peak, bro. Like, holy shit lmao.
do i play a game or do i be responsible
Be responsible
okay so i go sleep
Yes
if I wasn't being greedy at 2:35 i wouldve won
It's only like, 1:30 for you.
it is 3:02 pm
where da hell did you thjink i am
I should like. Sleep probably.
earth
I didn't keep track of the time. Sorgy.
its fine 
wrong
true you're on teyvat
Yippie 2views
WHAT DO U WANT
play league
this is false
id never hate serdna
serdna is like cool and hairful and not always bald like @shrewd meadow
hairful and bald are not mutually exclusive fyi

how does that work
fuck i didnt expect a follow up question
but the basic idea is
baldness is permanent
hairful is momentary
uh uh yes
like you can have hair, but you're still genetically predetermined to be bald
likewise, your actions (like playing League) can give you hair for just a moment, but doing bad things (like talking in hkmain) makes you go bald

thanks for the questions i appreciate your curiosity
so wise ,,,
i never expected this out of a convo in hkmain
the knowledge i have gained today will really change me for the rest of myh life
anytime twin
✌️
serdna since youre very wise
should i call in sick tmrw
cause its the 1st day of school

holy shit
thank u
thats very smart
time to eepy for 14 hrs and then cry about not going to school gn!

gn !
i lied sleeping is boring
what if i do of fomo
cause i didnt go to school
what if we get to play leavue during math
See my message in ss-disc.
||WDYM SLY HAVES A SECOND PHASE????||
coolest 2nd phase
Wait until you find out about the last phase
?? I think you got it backwards
league instantly makes you bald
hi throw
(slur)
dni l**g** player
hi choom
hi choom 
literally hates me
I did
....WHAT
buh
after a lot of practice,,i managed to beat absrad✌️🥹🥹
CONGRATS
i MIGHT be ready for the pantheon❤️🩹
slurs
|| Theres only 2 phases im trolling ||
If u beat her once then no
all of them
fair point im gonna keep practicing
My technique was to beat her twice in a row
Thrice in a row if ur feeling u got lucky
But the hardest part is beating her just once
do you reckon moving up to ascended after beating her a few times would work too ?
since that helps adapt to avoiding her attacks more
Phew
So
Nvm i forgot what I was gonna say
Ascended is too hard
If u can do ascended then u can definitely do p5 but ascended is radiant territory so u gotta do like near no hits
So ascended will be too hard for you
ah fairs
Possibly but I started going for p5 once I got around 50% consistency on attuned
And you do know abs rad aint the only problem right
I would recommend you practise ascended markoth (its fine if u dont beat him every time) nkg and pv
i mean ive made it to absrad on p5 already i can do the rest of the bosses pretty much perfect
Still i would recommend it its mostly nerves
I recommend going thru hard bosses 1 time before p5 just to be sure
yeah fair
my biggest problem would be markoth then since pv and nkg ive practiced more times than i can count
and i did kinda struggle without the floor
I used grubberflys elegy
I changed my charms to include it the last bench before markoth
oooh smart actually
Ppl say great slash works too
i just use the same spells throughout (mop, shaman, quick slash, sharp shadow) i dont actually think to change at benches😭
I dont recommend u use sharp shadow
help me
Where
i cant beat p1
Use strength
Did you do %112
Zendy
youre goddamn right
well i should kill like 1 more dream boss
maybe the flower
and thats it i suppose
i looked at a checklist website sometime ago
P1 which boss are u dying to
oro & mato ofc
i practiced
but
still cant get it
U can just get thru the first phase easily i assume
yea thats true
but mato is so tanky when i kill oro
Second phase dont get between them and when one if charging their attack other one does nothing
So u can focus on one
use razor arts right when mato spawns
Dont facetank im pretty sure u can heal in that fight if u run from him or when hes doing the propeller attack
well if i sit in a corner i kinda can dodge most of the time
when they are jumping around
Which attack u getting damaged on
you can also pogo off of them to avoid the double swing attack
just do that
its easier
For regular attacks, they can be singles or doubles
Singles will happen when both are in one side from you
mix in some descening dark
Im pretty sure they hit air too
When swinging nail
Hitbox is huge
The closest to you will go back, either with a roll or a jump, and the further one will come to you either with roll into slash or jump into dive
mato can fly with cyclone slash, its easy to avoid tho
most of them to be honest
Not that
okay ill just try p1 once more
Great slash just double jump
You can just walk a bit away to dodge this, go back in to get a couple of hits with your nail
Propeller doesnt even hit u if u run away
If they roll a shade soul will do double + single so 120 damage
Doubles happen when you're in between both bosses
If that ever happens you can just ddark and dash away through the one closest to you
But let him attack first so he doesn't attack into you
genio do i theoretically have a slim chance to get radiant p5
In some months you will! But you need to keep practicing and learning
months
ill take that
I took 11 months total because I don't play much per day
Someone with a better schedule can do it in 2-3 maybe
1 is like exceptionally addicted or exceptionally skilled
i am exceptionally unemployed
Man Radiant lost Kinn is hard
Lol
Enjoy it while it lasts
If you play 5 hours a day you can get 150 in a month
i need money
Which should be enough 
i should go back and do p3ab
uhh what about 9 hours a day
Atp you're fighting your energy and tiredness
Hey guys I have a Little question about hk can I ask it here ?
drawing knight skins is so boringg
how can people get 11 charm notch ? (Bad english im French lmao)
but i wanna make my own one
buying or finding it
you go around and gather them
Yeah but
and also buy some
I got only 9
did you get ismas tear
Like every other players I got 8
yeah
did you get uhhh
Im at 106% rn
did you activate any red circus
Im at 112%
Red I killed grim and grim nightmare
ah okay
And doing the end game challenges
No you don't 
so you got the notch there
no needed to flex 🙏
Yeah
CK skins takes longer than R5
if you want a list of every charm notch location, you can check the wiki
im halfway through tho
Did you guys start with 1 or 3 notch
im too deep in
4 pretty sure
we start with 3
maybe 3
I remember starting with 1
huh
This wouldn't make sense to brag about. There's no start time mentioned so theoretically it could be a self own and you'd never know.
But, I did take me a while. I am 200 hours in game time right now. Most of it is because of this optional challenge crap that's super difficult
i have an urge to make a nail only build but i still need spells
ill try radiant broken vessel or something i guess
he kinda easy
do eternal ordeal on radiant
Guys I have 112% am I not crazy?
whos this loser
i would let him die, free achievement
the greatest knight you'll ever meet in your entire life
you don't understand
omh y god
he got that sword from pharloom btw
itss GENO
he carries an entire kingdom in his sword!
Hellone! 
what
hiii hru
he's the AWESOME AMAZING BEAUTIFUL STRONGEST GREY PRINCE ZOTE THE MIGHTY
correct
i did play a bit
DO I HAVE GOKU'S HEART DISEASE OR SOMETHING WHAT THE FUCK IS KILLING ME???? @mild sorrel
i lovve geometrrydash
Fearsome
Unbeatable
Powerful
Charming
Invincible
Grey Prince Zote
hes the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful GREY PRINCE ZOTE
you're old
zote is old
@naive dew gn
zote difficulty
i meant u
What a bug lmao
no like itss literally not even 10pm
wait true mb
i'm old!
hjiiiiiiiii oswald
i get to stay up cause i called in sick tmrw
@quartz cave
awesomee
Hiii osbald
im good wbu
hi genio hru
87.4% bald
im MAD
geno does geno play geometry dah
hi gang
damn that succks
wsg twin
so i just got HK a few days ago after WAY too long
I feel like i've been unknowingly preparing for this game for years
two of my favorite games to play this last year or two are Metroidvania's and Kaizo Mario romhacks
and to me, at least for now, HK is a blend of both.
Uh
and i gd love it
Zobac Unxndiof
is absolute radiance radiant radiance or a seperate boss
separate boss
godhome exclusive
sniped
it's the godhome version of radiance. its the same as how sisters of battle is mantis lords, but theyre better.
tf did i do to muzzle
You should try to not move as much in between attacks
bro spared you
The falling there caused the target to hit you high
does everyone just block eachother randomly in this server
green guy hates me
for fire
gg clubstep
atp im wondering if anyones blocked me
i dont think ive done anything to offend anyone tho
try like
other than trump ragebaiter guy
tung tung wada potluck IV
what guy
i did not mean to click the blocked messages button but i did. you are lucky i saw this. i am easily annoyed and block anybody who annoys me. i have up to half of this chat blocked at any given time. if you need me to read a message of yours, ask someone in the chat. i am not that important though, so dont worry about it.
thats a long story innit
he got banned
was just glazing trump for ragebait in #hk-help
this should genuinely be a fangame
WHAT did I do to annoy them?? 💔
Am i blocked
Literally never talked to them once
mostly is
block me too
grimm you can't do that that's cheating
Me too me too
alright.
Am i blocked
how do u check this
kurbaga can you ask them what i did to annoy them because I didn't talk to them once
Im blocked too bro
💔
Shade dashed too early
What @lone oracle Do
settings -> content and social -> scroll to the bottom. on mobile, im not sure.
he's not supposed to go that far
That guys prolly doing it for a joke or smth though
Huh
At this point u gotta be the problem bro
Sorry i thought it was his claw that got you
ive blocked 1 bot account
in this clip he goes EVEN further
99% of them are annoying trolls so it is valid kinda
I’ve had grimm do the uppercut slash 5 times in a fuckin row
Wut
randomized pantheons
Anytime he corners me with that attack it’s gg
roblox hitbox
are you trying to do radiant nkg
no i got it in 160hr
Not sure if i should dash away or into grimm
along with golden zote statue in menu
Maybe they're like me and have high standards for who they talk too
Charmless
High standarts in hk discord is like trying to find gold in your poop
Ascended is just an opportunity to get fotf quicker
Imo
Thats how i beat ascended nkg cause that shi is fun
i should try that
The 92 damage great slash 👀
in what world does a great slash do 92 damage
Pure nail with fotf active
Strength doesnt affect nail arts
47.5 damage
unabbreviate fotf please
per hit
fury of the fallen
Fury of the fallen
Fury of the fallen
per a normal hit?
the only use of fotf is pantheon speedruns tbh
what? (this rounds to 56 in hk)
NKG/ABSRAD ascended
wait what cons does fotf have
More dmg
But
Ur on 1 health
strength and fotf both give 50% damage boosts if im not wrong but even then 56 is still even greater
Yeah i did this
nope fotf gives 1.75
it's useless on radiant
why that
you wont be able to get to 1 on rad
because you can't get hit
It doesnt work im guessing
Ascended is fine since ur taking too much damage to heal anyways
No
if it did that'd be nice
not that you gotta get to it urself
wait im pretty sure there's a mod that makes fotf set your masks to 1
yeah divine fury or smth
what if someone that isnt the knight somehow got their hands on voidheart
idk
they wake their dark side up
also hallo
hello
ig bro
Then kaboom
bretta or grimm?
Zote
Is this good so far?

What is that
Sheo oro and mato
Hi
I love my nail masters extra fruity
hey guys i created a doc with smash ultimate concepts for the knight and hornet, if you have any feedback just tell me, I am still working on certain moves and gimmicks. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aBSM35RcQjyLyHv0819gN8O6pL4w-EXs0iUFY2SZaGA/edit?tab=t.0
Google Docs
The Knight: Gimmick: SOUL. The Knight has the soul meter next to its damage counter. It looks just like it does in the base game, and when The Knight hits a fighter with any nail attack, it will gain SOUL. SOUL can be used to focus and cast spells. A full SOUL meter contains three casts. Wall c...
i just learned how to shriek pogo guys
Are you going to do their clothes
Ye
I'm just making their bodies 1st so it's easier
To paint them
Also I technically don't have the detail sheo and oro's chest until I start making clothing for them
But hopefully I finish them today
Cause I really don't wanna be making these guys for the next 2 days
Now Iam more curious how did you even do p5ab with this kinda phone performance
if you could remove one thing in hollow knight what would it be
zote
i was cracked back then
or markoth with no fucking floor in p5
@floral basalt 's ability to play
? lol
personally id say the soul master runback
even with all the shortcuts unlocked it still takes a while for me to get back
And i assume your phone is the one thing that's cracked now
if you have the shortcuts you never need to encounter the soul twisters, its easy after you get them
Cuz seriously this is the most nkg bugs i have seen in a single night
not all of them then
most of them then
do you really hate the soul master runback more than radiant/ascended markoth?
wow
Just 1 soul twister is all
yeah like one fireball to the cranium takes care of them
or 2
idm the soul twisters that much theyre just annoying at times
Oh yea definitely
(plus they may have bullied me back before i learned how to deal with them)
this is my first playthrough how do i leave crystal peak
crystal dash to dirtmouth
turn left and go down from the crystal guardian bench
oh just go as much up and right as you can
ok
theres a platforming ssection and then u get super dash
oh i think im at that plat section rn
yeah, just do that rq, it may seem hard a first, but it doesnt take that long if ur patient
the one with switch platforms and the drop into so many spikes?
yes
ok
pogo the platforms after they switch to reset them
Who jealous
They now have their arms that are gonna be visible
ok should i keep talking here or should i get back to playing hk
okay
i saw that
pale king simp show yourself
?
Does the white lady give birth to hundreds of children at once like an actual insect or was the pale king just relentlessly fucking day and night to make the vessels
Me
Pale king be ballin
God damn don't he got any recharge time??
personally i think that one is true
Maybe white lady and herrah at the same time 
Me
wdym
I haven't written in this server for a long time
I still got goat status because of radiant hall of gods
He created hornet with herrah
well yeh but wut abt white lady lol
nah he def cracked flukemarm 😭 🙏

no
Would pale king crack the knight
i knew it
mayb
Gonna eep now nice discussion
bye
what was that conversation 😭
idk
iit was 🔥
probably about who the pale king cracked
of all things for you guys to talk about
Bringing sk discussion culture to hk discussion
which hk/sk character would YOU crack?
flukemarm 🗣️

am i muted
stfu lol
ok :(
Newbie on Newbie violence
:(
Don't ask these kinds of weird questions
So sad
Their bodies are completely done now
Yeah I wont
@tulip narwhal hi @tulip narwhal hru @tulip narwhal cool @tulip narwhal
Hi @ashen ginkgo
Hi I'm new
True that’s a previous name
I believe this
shld i do p3 first?
Nah
I’d start from p1 then make your way
Your choice really
But if you want to get the feel of a pantheon, do the first
Eitherway you need to do the first 3 to do p4
missing this creature
I wish I could tell you who that is
maybe
ok thanks
have you fought it
becaeuse you do have to eventually
whats this one
Oblobbles
2*
If you saved them from deepnest
wait where do i fight oboblboble
colo 2
is obblobles nto a percent
Yes
i checked and the only boss percent i needed was brooding
doesnt nail upgrades give percents though
what are binding btw ima do a couple p3 runs and then grind the bosses to get
yeah
i only have channeled nail tho
Ok so
Ur hella underprepared
Godhome attunes the bosses to their strongest
You’re intended to do godhome with ALL upgrades
Hello new
I’d assume you don’t have all bosses attuned either cause to do the pantheons u gotta kill bosses to unlock them
is rad abs rad harder than rad markoth
no
asc markoth is already pissing me off
Hollow knigjt sucks,it has too many bugs
fr
Ima do p3
rad markoth is more annoying then rad abs rad
I struggle with god tamer and umu then die to hornet Sentinel,any tips?
why is gruzmother ascended kinda hard 😭
once the beast dies the ant also dies
Does the beast take damage when hes rolling?
I think its like the watcher knights where spells work might be wrong though
Also I know the kill the beast first thing,its just ive found it easier to kill tamer first
Ight thanks.
Shes super tanky for your nail
And having a different arena changes your strat
fr
U gotta be patient.
Should I replace unbreakable strength or quicslash for quick focus
None
I need quick focus
took me 10 attempts for rad gruz mother and 1 for rad nkg
Keep them both
for?
yo sup chat
are you sure you cant get rid of any of your other charms
Until i managed to be able to sustain myself
nice pfp
you too
because strength and quick slash are horrible options to get rid of
I’ve seen that hornet image too many times
I will never take of my extra long crutches long nail and mop
bro take off long nail
ty
just use mop alone
They arent crutches
np
Far from it actually
Very good for mfs who refuse to stay still and especially airborne targets
Ight took of long nail,putting g on quick focus instead (and i will stand by it)
Ight im going in
Just stick to mark of pride for range
See yall in a sec
bro godhome is lowk hella hard wtf
wait what's he doing lol
p3 I think
is fun tho right
Yeah that’s why I suggest you come back with everything
quick focus for p3 is diabolical
spells? 💔
I dont like them
wheres shaman
your loss
wouldn't recommend sprintmaster but otherwise its great
bro the little flys deal 2x mask
Sprintmaster can lowkey be replaced for grubsong or nailmaster’s GOAT-ly
omg
why do yall use steady body
yeah or dreamwieldsr
higher dps
it insta kills the bosses for me
ok thx
Elder huus easy,especially cuz he ha like 50 healing oppurtunitys
shi ty gng i never use it
harder to get hit(specifically pv and abs rad for me), more dps
yeah lol
Chase bosses like 
yeah but you need to learn nail turning
cant fly into pv spikes while trying to hit pv
it provides significantly more control when fighting bosses mid-air.
and what everyone else said
but it's not very complicated so I would learn it if I were you
btw whats ur hardest in gd
sbody good I mean simple
And bosses like asc gruz mother where slipping off is death
shits just solid it’s a good effect
ye i saw a vid of someone fighting pure vessel and he jst keeps turning left and right when i asked him bout it he told me its nail turning
ok I dont like grubsong so I'll learn to use nail arts
holy yap
yeah it cancels the nail animation
prob deadlocked
Bro this build is shredding,I can deal lots if damage in seconds even when a bit far away,and should I get hit if can heal very quick
When used correctly they hella strong
Try em for nkg
deadlocked or retro circles
Grubsong is amazing,was the best during path of pain
ohh nice mines future funk 89/tundra
you can just use dreamweildee too
true
Ight back to p3
is there a different boss I can try I have kinda master NKG
tmg
god tamer
Trial of the fool
W ma bro is tryin to beat it he beat flame temple/nine circles and retro circles
i love retro circles
it was my 10th demon
I wish I could use charms for p5ab
i think you mean ab
ive beaten poltergeist :D
with ascended you can one shot with strength
W
pro
it was my 1 demon
Nice
dang my hardest is only fratura (medium demon)
how many demons do u have?
i did time machine 🥶
gg
Yall did you know if you use the right joy stick you can look up and down immediately without the wait (at least on switch)
Ight im afight grimm
what
gl
prob 5
yeah but its not very useful
Bro its an immediate look,now I dont have to wait 5 hours
lol
why is that useful though
quick ddarks idk
the lightning road /the nightmare / retro circles/ xtep v2/ deadlocked
niceee i just got my 30th one yesterday
Directional attacks only need the input
u should try shiver
Looking is just a thing you do to move the camera
damn
shiver so mid ngl
are we including platformers
Legit useless in any time sensitive setting
aight
demon mixed is also good
But it is trivia
speed of light
ye
gehiooooo
HI SERDNA
let me see then
Helloneeeeee
am trying crazy
hiii genio
somehow i havent done a single platformer yet
hru
I'm good
yayy
Took our dog to the vet
Me omw to gaze up at the forgotten god of light 5 platforms away just to see where the swords are going to snap my neck:
is it okayy
bro radiant is a one shot kill 😭
But it's getting treated soon 
I have 27 demons
ah 
not bad
HI FLOGGY
Hru
i got flogged once...
its so hard trying to find someone who wants to play hk mp des days only one who wants to is my bro
we played split screen
why?
i think its a bit overrated but decent level
a bit of memory at the end
idk i just dont like it
i hate memory lvls
I flog it all the time
Hru
luckily only like 6 orbs in shiver are memory
happy for you
Ight second half of p3
🤨
weirdo
W
Yeah ik
@keen thorn calculus
Ew what is ur profile banner
What does this even mean
Yay
who here beat pantheon 5 with old nail
tf is dis
surely genio
im good
HIIIII FFLOGGY
Hiii
Even nows P5 is not that hard, slightly easier than P5AB
So are charms
anybody here beat p5ab
True
nows?
3 more hardests till demonlist
Old nail white spells
@keen thorn what do the numbers mean
out of my server mage, ty !
Do you use charms aswell or
mine ?????
Yes
Oh im SORRY ILL LEAVE
hi serda
so you have beat it old nail
yes
hi melone
genio did hes a pro
Owo is that but charmless and it is quite harder than AB
hiiii susccat
rabbits
should I pratice the bosses on p5ab or should I just go in ive done RADHOG
Yeah change it please
now what does owo mean
change ur fuckass pfp
melone
old nail white spells 0 charms
radhog isn’t enough preparation
You've crossed a line.
no i havent
I'd highly recommend you use mods or make an entierly new practice file just for p5ab
owo P5 could be interesting but idk
I want to do P045 eventually it's just collector being an unbreakable wall
YES you have you cant just say that about my pfp hello >?>>
Atp just do p045
Good news: made it to sly
Bad news: I have 2 masks
omg firered hi
Am I screwed?
omg firered bye
I don't exist
it is bad.
if you have full health you are fine against sly because sly is damage tankable
@shrewd nymph calculus
I take offense to that
but your in a bad situation
bro there is a difference between crossing a line and crossing a line i told that to the police and i almost went to jail
I dont have full health tho
yeah you dead if its the first time
You;'re being racist towards australians rn I hope you know that
does anyone else stay over charmed?
sometimes I do
Wdym
What does this mean
nthn
i always overcharm with soul eater
Phloggy
np
Hi thror
Ded
Look at who's still jolly
Whats up
@shrewd meadow
Im jolly!!!!
@young lake
They shoudl really let you retry from halfway
are radiants just the same boss but ur forced to no hit
Aren't you gonna ban him?
IM JOLLY
I overcharm with mark of pride like the disgusting player i am
hi ojb
Mellone is also jolly
@digital abyss
With some changes to hp and arena in some cases
We can't have these double standards @shrewd meadow smh
nah
Mod abuse
Ever went into radiant markoth before?
hi @naive dew @shrewd meadow
hi ojb
radiant = hitless + arena effects + more hp
Bye ojb
depending on the boss
bye floggy it was nice knowing you
is it really more hp
for example abs rad stays at the same hp
tbh i hate mark of pride and long nail they are so stupid to use like why would i stay far from an enemy
Nice knowing you too!
surely its not every boss
ok I go nap bye
correct
bosses like abs rad dont change hp
hi serdna
in asc and rad
Stop doing that cro
PV???
ojb

