hk-discussion

[shell orchid]

HOW

[autumn ice]

can definitely sub out shaman for quick focus or mop based on what you're comfortable with, sbody nmg can also each be substituted for grubsong, or you can use a good 2 notch instead (main options probably twister or heart)

[wooden egret]

Why mop and longnail? Can you swap mop for quick focus?

[shell orchid]

Could you show me

[vernal prairie]

Nmg?

[shadow lily]

in the same scenario?

[pure valve]

i dont like mark of pride, it makes you get too used to it
its good to use it once in a while, but not all the time

[shell orchid]

Why not sure

[shrewd nymph]

, was a bit unsure of what 'easiest' meant but i tend to say shaman/mop and dont normally recommend nmg over grubsong

[shadow lily]

what level is that

[shrewd nymph]

Nailmasters glory

[vernal prairie]

Nah in that case slap shaman.

[autumn ice]

i mean i imagine easiest is just best build for someone who's struggling with p5 or sth idk

[real pasture]

Yeah qfocus is quite underrated but for an easy p5 it’s so valuable

[autumn ice]

qf owns

[wooden egret]

Oh yeah Abyssal shriek is crazy

[shell orchid]

Champion of conqueror

[shrewd nymph]

Qfocus is imo the most underrated charm

[autumn ice]

it's definitely easier to use than shaman

[vernal prairie]

I see.that comes really handy when fighting airborne pests like aspid and those stingy flyers

[shell orchid]

and i DARE you to do this one and the wave after that

[vernal prairie]

Yep.shaman makes it an almost godlike spell

[autumn ice]

maybe yeah i guess as an easy build i probably would recommend str qs qf heart?

[shadow lily]

r u fr?

[wooden egret]

Overhated ngl. It gives you a chance to heal which is a big change

[shell orchid]

Fr fr

[shadow lily]

bet even if i have no charms equiped

[vernal prairie]

Never used anything crystal related.

[shell orchid]

You earn my respect then

[autumn ice]

strong survivability and extremely simple to have good offense

[shadow lily]

just wayward compass is enough

[shrewd nymph]

It has great boss use but isnt super intuitive without learning beforehand

[wooden egret]

That spell is already great agains markoth

[shell orchid]

Too op but ok

[autumn ice]

well you can heal without it against every boss

[alpine ibex]

Abyss shriek against markoth is such a risk

[pure valve]

soul eater is only good for radiant bosses im ngl, 4 notches takes away many opportunities for better stuff

[autumn ice]

it just makes healing a lot easier, safer, and does create more healing opportunities/lets you heal more often in one heal spot

which is very good

[vernal prairie]

Three abyss from me killed markoth in edge.

[subtle hull]

something something sharp shadow whatever

[shrewd nymph]

Suffer

[wooden egret]

It is very good for trial of fools since you can great slash the asspiss

[alpine ibex]

floaty markoth could be frigging pulled against you

[pure valve]

asspiss 🔥

[vernal prairie]

Yeah I only heals when boss is staggered so never really required qfocus

[shell orchid]

Like 4 wayward compass

[vernal prairie]

Sorry replied to wrong msg

[real pasture]

That you can control by facing… left? One direction pulls and one pushes, don’t remember which one is what

[autumn ice]

the spaghetti code™

[alpine ibex]

Do you think the average player knows, or notices that?

[shrewd nymph]

Left pushes right pulls

And with howling wraiths its even more fun

[vernal prairie]

Hmm....have anyone ever made a build with kingsoul?

I don't even know what kingsoul does

[alpine ibex]

meme build on markoth

[autumn ice]

kind of nonviable for p5

[real pasture]

Oh not at all, way easier to use shade soul on Markoth

[shadow lily]

Slowly regen soul

[shrewd nymph]

Passive soul gain

[alpine ibex]

kingsoul radiant markoth is just dodge & spell

[autumn ice]

kingsoul is like kind of real in flower quest

[vernal prairie]

I won't jump to conclusions but no matter the rate of regen 5 notches ain't worth it.

[wooden egret]

GUYS I PULLED 8 ABYSSAL SHRIEKS WITH SHAMAN STONE ON A PRIMAL ASPID AND ITS STILL ALIVE
HELPHELPHELPHE

[vernal prairie]

Bro's accuracy is worse than stormtroopers from star wars

[shrewd nymph]

It isnt worth it, i suspect they made it that way so people werent annoyed at losing it for vh

[wooden egret]

Nah all of them hit the aspid

But when the smoke cleared he appeared

[vernal prairie]

Don't do drugs boy look now you are hallucinating

[wooden egret]

When pulled the machine the wrath was seen

[lone oracle]

oh my god im so washed

[shadow lily]

I hate it when the sun suddenly have wings

[lone oracle]

1 year break and I can't even do path of pain anymore

[shrewd nymph]

Unlucky

[lone oracle]

im stuck on the 4th segment of pop

[wooden egret]

When the primal aspid showed up the ground listened

[subtle hull]

it happens

washed hk aunts are people too ✊

[lone oracle]

aunts

anyways

[vernal prairie]

How did you even survive there are supposed to be 2 primal aspids

[lone oracle]

my friend is finally on white palace

[subtle hull]

my mistake

[finite ember]

chat i officially hit 50 deaths to radiant sisters of battle how do i beat that boss

[vernal prairie]

Aunts?

Oh aunts

[shell orchid]

I put 6 magic attacks on primal aspids and lost like 4 health

[tired mountain]

Memorise the attack pattern

[shrewd nymph]

Ddark spam

[autumn ice]

ddark spam simulator, i would spam ddark

[lone oracle]

lock in

[shell orchid]

Where do I fight them

[tired mountain]

Its way more fun without ddark spam

[lone oracle]

they're really not that hard

[lone oracle]

you need to do pantheon of hallownest first

then they'll unlock

[tired mountain]

Sob radiant is actually one of the most fun fights without ddark spam

[shrewd nymph]

Its also notable rng without ddark

[shell orchid]

Not there yet

[tired mountain]

Wdym

[shrewd nymph]

And i find it boring regardless

[lone oracle]

it's a mantis lords variant btw

[tired mountain]

Its not rng

[lone oracle]

it is mostly

[shell orchid]

Easy

[shrewd nymph]

They can telefrag without ddark

[vernal prairie]

Sorry but wut is RNG?

[tired mountain]

Sob is rng ?

[autumn ice]

there's like a little nuance where you do want to have some soul for defensive ddark if you're close to the edge of the platform and stuff

[wooden egret]

Knowing I can't defeat them
I became one of them

[lone oracle]

fighting 3 mantis lords at once hitless isn't that easy

[tired mountain]

Whats telefrag

[shell orchid]

It's not like all of them are gonna jump me

[shrewd nymph]

Random number generator/generation. it means luck

[autumn ice]

but overall just ddark to dodge things for free and deal a trillion damage on them

[shell orchid]

.

[shrewd nymph]

Spawn inside you with contact dmg

[wooden egret]

3 mantis lords + traitor king ascended 🥴

[subtle hull]

random number generation, essentially just means heavily luck dependent

[vernal prairie]

How is RNG related to sob?

[pure valve]

that happened with me once, i hated it

[lone oracle]

traitor lord is ez

[subtle hull]

nevermind i was too slow

[lone oracle]

just dash when he attacks

[frozen notch]

Im back and cooking a second tostinos pizza

[shrewd nymph]

If you dont like spamming ddark, just use it when ur on the edge and they do a thrust

[subtle hull]

one million dishonour

[tired mountain]

Only if ur on the sides of the arena ig

[autumn ice]

i'm pretty sure they technically dont spawn on top of you but rather like right next to you as you're walking into them and you cant react? idk tho and it doesn't really make a difference

[shrewd nymph]

Which they can force you to with certain patterns / on death overlaps

[lone oracle]

sob is a really fun fight

[tired mountain]

I dont think its rng

[lone oracle]

i love it

[shrewd nymph]

Im pretty sure its a telefrag but not confident enough to correct you, i'd have to test it out

[autumn ice]

ya i'm not sure either

[tired mountain]

Im pretty sure its not cuz people say abs rad isnt rng either and it throws out some bullshit that u can barely react sometimes

[lone oracle]

i wish watcher knights was as fun as mantis lords

[wooden egret]

I am talking about the challenge mod which makes you fight super fast sisters of battle and traitor king at the same time

[lone oracle]

watcher knights being pure spam and rng sucks

[autumn ice]

maybe i just want to have enough faith in tc to think that they'd not put any proper telefrags in the game but tc also coded hk so maybe that confidence is misplaced

[shrewd nymph]

Absrad is heavily rng, but the fight isnt dictated by it and not are any

[worn hamlet]

im like 99% sure it's a telefrag

[shrewd nymph]

As in your loss isnt solely from absrad rng since it can be negated

[wooden egret]

Spam vs skill

[lone oracle]

oh
idk i dont play modded aside skins

[worn hamlet]

I've heard some extremely experienced players be frustrated abt the telefrag

[tired mountain]

Couldnt be not my goat

[shrewd nymph]

I think pv's telefrag is technically not one

[lone oracle]

Watcher Knights: Gifted Power
Mantis Lords: Pure Effort

[subtle hull]

what the hell is telefrag

[wooden egret]

Tho traitor king was hard for me
Seeing cloth die happily

[worn hamlet]

oh pv

[shrewd nymph]

Spawn inside you with contact dmg

[lone oracle]

tp into you and deal damage

[autumn ice]

but again whether it's a proper telefrag or not doesnt really matter

[subtle hull]

ah

[autumn ice]

same result

[shrewd nymph]

The pv telefrag is negligible anyways

[worn hamlet]

the technicalities of the definition of a telefrag don't really matter,

[tired mountain]

I dont think pv has telefrag

[tulip heron]

Hardest boss?

[shrewd nymph]

I heard soul master / tyrant can telefrag with orbs as well

[worn hamlet]

the important part is that the attack is unbalanced in comparison to the rest of the boss's moveset

[lone oracle]

zote

[shrewd nymph]

He does but its niche

[tired mountain]

U mean the single jump ?

[shadow lily]

@shell orchid im so washed but i did it anyway

[autumn ice]

ya i'm just like wondering if they spawn into you or just close enough for it to be unreactable

[shrewd nymph]

I can send a video holup

[shell orchid]

I was going to just pin you in like a milliseconds

[shrewd nymph]

I think i can access it via phone

[lone oracle]

we all agree base zote is the hardest boss in the game right

i died to him 40 times

[subtle hull]

his soul spears from the ground i swear he can tp onto u if ur in the air at the time

[shell orchid]

Waiting

[lone oracle]

in colosseum of fools

[shadow lily]

As in the whole wave till the end?

[autumn ice]

being in the air against pv dead

[shell orchid]

No like you fight the great hopper once and then you are put in a cage and then fight him until then i mean

[lone oracle]

rate the fit

[shadow lily]

Oh

Heres the short

Clip

[shrewd nymph]

Okay i dont have the pv telefrag

But

[shell orchid]

Can I have some bobux

[shadow lily]

Wait editing it

[shrewd nymph]

If you dont hit him when hes staggered in phase 2/3, he can teleport and do the focus attack in the dead middle without checking whether you're there or not

aka telefragging you

[shadow lily]

I never seen that man in my entire life

[tired mountain]

Oh u mean he just flings himself

[autumn ice]

ah sick

[shrewd nymph]

He spawns inside you

[lone oracle]

i spent it all

[lone oracle]

dlc boss

[shrewd nymph]

He just teleports there without checking like he normally does on a tp

[subtle hull]

freaky

[autumn ice]

damn ok maybe sob can actually telefrag you too then

[tired mountain]

Sometimes he flings himself and hits u can kills the knight

[autumn ice]

hk sucks hopping back on skong gg

[tired mountain]

Thats unavoidable too i think

[alpine ibex]

Yeah, PV can actually damn teleport on top of you

[tired mountain]

But its like 0.001 percent or smth

[shrewd nymph]

But the pv one is funny because you have about a ms to react so technicallly

[alpine ibex]

only way to avoid is to not stand in middle

[tired mountain]

Its a bug

[shrewd nymph]

Hows your rs4 progress?

[alpine ibex]

No? Had it multiple times in the same day

[autumn ice]

5 hit pb, shakra distance

[shell orchid]

Uh

[lone oracle]

i still need to do R5 all bindings

[tired mountain]

Fling is very rare

[alpine ibex]

oh fling yeah

[autumn ice]

so going pretty okay

[shrewd nymph]

5 hits is great wow

gg

[tired mountain]

Fling is unavoidable too

[shadow lily]

@shell orchid i forgot to save it

[autumn ice]

still not at a point that i get past the s1 part consistently though

[shadow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[autumn ice]

i'm sure that'll come in time

[lone oracle]

still my greatest achievement for now, will do hitless P5AB later

[shell orchid]

Alright pal

[shrewd nymph]

gg

[shadow lily]

Here it is

[autumn ice]

havent really practiced the s1 stuff like at all

[shadow lily]

Oh god in mob? Bro i couldnt even do that

[potent dust]

I just finished white palace ( in 2 hours ) that shit was annoying asf

[autumn ice]

nothing's really hard but it's extremely easy to be aggressive and stupid and get owned for no reason

my s2 and s3 are pretty solid atp though

[shrewd nymph]

I mean not for sk but in r1-5 i do the same 😭

Its more that i want the clear to look cool

[autumn ice]

yeah makes sense

i've given up on my lace 1 though

if i try to learn that fight my muscle memory will die

[shell orchid]

Waiting for like the 30 min

[shadow lily]

my bad bruh my pc slow as shi

and im washed

[autumn ice]

it's actually so bad she does not move

[shrewd nymph]

Its been so long since i did that fight

[rare aurora]

this is hkdisc

[shrewd nymph]

Eek alp

[lone oracle]

quick check

P5 < P5M < P5AB < R5 < P5MAB < R5M < R5CB < R5AB < R5MAB

[shadow lily]

this is what i do cuz i dont use abilities sometimes @shell orchid

[shrewd nymph]

What does m mean

[lone oracle]

mobile

[shrewd nymph]

[autumn ice]

[shrewd nymph]

can we include one for foot pedal only

inclusion

[lone oracle]

what

[autumn ice]

can we include one for controller

[shadow lily]

r u insane

[autumn ice]

so many people handicapping themselves and not getting proper respect for it

[lone oracle]

controller is the same as normal pantheons id say

people are really good on hk controller

[lone oracle]

I'm quite insane yes
Rn I'm on R5M

[shrewd nymph]

Anyways ignoring the mobile bits yes thats correct

[autumn ice]

yeah that's super impressive that they'd be able to get that good while handicapping themselves

[shadow lily]

th is M

[lone oracle]

I plan on reaching R5MAB

[lone oracle]

mobile

[shadow lily]

U DO IT IN MOB?

DAMN

[shell orchid]

Dayum

[lone oracle]

yes

im lowk buns at hollow knight on pc

[wooden egret]

Silksong is worse 😭😭

[lone oracle]

i died so many times in ancient basin on pc

[shadow lily]

bro so what u play with 2 fingers? 😭

[autumn ice]

how long'd the p5ab take

[lone oracle]

three things

fingers

[lone oracle]

like a day?

i dont remember

[foggy thistle]

Hello

[shadow lily]

thats gon be so hard

[autumn ice]

[lone oracle]

probably two

[shrewd nymph]

Which boss was the hardest for you

Besides absrad

[shadow lily]

bro some hitless pantheon took almost an hour

[rare aurora]

hi

[autumn ice]

what do you mean probably 2 do you not remember when you started

[lone oracle]

i did it over a year ago

[lone oracle]

sisters of battle since I wasn't good at them back then

either that or watcher knights

[shadow lily]

how fast can u guys kill pv rad

[lone oracle]

depends on my charms

[shrewd nymph]

Not like collector? Or gpz or markoth?

[lone oracle]

best i had was like 3 min

[lone oracle]

collector was relatively easy

[autumn ice]

anyone getting some giga pk vibes from this

[lone oracle]

zote is not that hard he just chunks hp away

[shadow lily]

3 minutes is insane

[lone oracle]

markoth too

markoth was hard

i sucked at markoth

[shadow lily]

just cuz of that fucked up arena

[shrewd nymph]

16.52 seconds

[lone oracle]

oh

radiant pure vessel

uhhhh

i never did them properly

[shrewd nymph]

Ive seen some diabolical things in hkgen so comparatively its great

[lone oracle]

i always used the flukenest cheat

[autumn ice]

[lone oracle]

im not that good at fighting pure vessel

[shrewd nymph]

On pv?

[autumn ice]

i wanna hear some of that it's been a while

[shadow lily]

idek why but i dont even like using any abilities, just pure nail is already good

[lone oracle]

me too twin

spells lowkey carried me in P5ab tho

[shadow lily]

now tf is ab

[lone oracle]

all bindings

[shrewd nymph]

Theres been alot of nkg hardest / top 3 difficult in p5ab

[shadow lily]

DAMN

[shrewd nymph]

but the funniest was with grey a little ago

[shadow lily]

how bored were u doing this

[lone oracle]

NKG isn't that hard I'd say

[autumn ice]

what

[lone oracle]

But that might be because I fight him 24/7

I killed him like 150 times i think so far

He's just so fun to fivht

banger music too

[shrewd nymph]

some guy did p1-3 in all record time (didnt know the final bosses), then did pv in p4 in about 5 seconds

[shadow lily]

p4 5 seconds?

[lone oracle]

pv 5 seconds

what

how

[shrewd nymph]

But best of all, did p5, 'died' to make it believeable but claimed to have respawned at the bench halfway through and then beat it

[lone oracle]

flukenest cheat?

[shadow lily]

how tf

did bro spawned all

flukenest

[shrewd nymph]

Flukenest doesnt work on pv

[shadow lily]

then how tf

[shrewd nymph]

And no the point is it was faked

[lone oracle]

it does

how wouldn't it

[shrewd nymph]

The wr is 8.77 seconds on pv

[shrewd nymph]

Um

[shadow lily]

probably fury of the fallen?

[lone oracle]

unless they patched it

[shrewd nymph]

i mean its late but im very positive it doesnt work

[autumn ice]

i am feeling properly

[shrewd nymph]

i do dabble in pv

[lone oracle]

cz that's how i killed rad PV

[autumn ice]

i imagine it does its normal damage in pv but doesnt do like the whole burst thing

[lone oracle]

hitbox offset?

i mean

linger

might be

[shadow lily]

i tryna use flukenest on staggered pv and it just bounced while me having all soul charms

[lone oracle]

my friend tried using flukenest against THK and it didn't do the hitbox linger so it might be patched

[shrewd nymph]

Its like 200 casts of flukes to kill pv or smt

Atleast was a long time ago

[lone oracle]

but yeah

rate the fit

[shadow lily]

200 casts was making pv look like he has 5k hp

[lone oracle]

?

what

why did that send

i sent that like an hour ago

[shrewd nymph]

Well now it just doesnt damage pv or thk

[shadow lily]

some mfs probably gon say bendy if u show it to non hk player

[lone oracle]

they did already

[shrewd nymph]

Unless theyre aerial iirc

[shadow lily]

i fw with the nightmare one

[autumn ice]

lmao nice jank

[lone oracle]

@shadow lily

[finite ember]

I CANT STAND TS ANYMORE

[lone oracle]

get in rhythm

[autumn ice]

maybe watch someone else do it

look up some r5 clears or whatever

[shadow lily]

mf 😭

[autumn ice]

look at what they do

try to copy the overall approach

[finite ember]

ok, ill try taht

[autumn ice]

applies to most bosses, just as a side note

[shrewd nymph]

You missed the self promo opportunity

[autumn ice]

damn yeah r5 is no longer my most viewed video

[shrewd nymph]

Oh? What is now

[autumn ice]

9bbg

[shrewd nymph]

Translation please

[autumn ice]

everlasting farewell golden

modded celeste map deathless

[shrewd nymph]

Isnt that from celeste

Ohh

Sadly i cant really grasp how impressive that is without playing celeste

[autumn ice]

was my hardest achievement at the time so that's pretty fair

[shrewd nymph]

But im assuming its super hard

[autumn ice]

took 134 hours on the map

[shrewd nymph]

Oh wow

ggs holy shit that sounds crazy

[autumn ice]

well i am 570h deep on another celeste golden (on hiatus rn tho)

[shrewd nymph]

Id probably fail the second base level of Celeste

[autumn ice]

nah

[shrewd nymph]

I cant tell whats going on at all

[autumn ice]

celeste is hard but extremely learnable

[shrewd nymph]

ive never been a 2d fan tbf but i would like to try it sometime

[autumn ice]

and any% is pretty doable anyways

you will die a lot of course but if you're like not the absolute worst ever at hk movement it should be fine

[shrewd nymph]

Im decent at hk movement but doesnt look like it anymore

(Trying to learn socd)

[autumn ice]

have you beaten pop

[shrewd nymph]

I have

[autumn ice]

good enough

[ancient ravine]

Cinema time

[shadow lily]

bro is watching hollow knight the movie

[autumn ice]

and i'm not trying to say anything but celeste is on sale on steam right now

[autumn ice]

i think

[ancient ravine]

Hell nah.

[shrewd nymph]

Everything is

Hmm i am on a hk break rn

Maybe i will explore some celeste

[autumn ice]

and if i'm plugging good games, slay the spire is 90% off and an amazing game as well (deckbuilder roguelike, if you're into that)

[shrewd nymph]

I see fiablo playing that alllll the time

It looks complicated but also very strategic

[autumn ice]

yeah pretty much

takes a while to get into i will say (not that clicking around and learning about the game isn't fun, but i do think that the game gets a lot more interesting one you get to a certain baseline level of knowledge)

but it's super fun

[shrewd nymph]

No better time than now - game dry spell + summer sale

[autumn ice]

and for sts specifically, sts2 is coming to early access in march

though i imagine spire 1 will be a lot more balanced for a while at least

[shrewd nymph]

oh wow

Im reminding myself to check it out

[autumn ice]

[shrewd nymph]

Celeste i will look at a bit more

Anyways its super late here so ima sleep, thanks for the recommendations

[autumn ice]

ya, gn

[shrewd nymph]

Gl in the silksong endeavours

[quartz cave]

@shrewd nymph

hi...

[shrewd nymph]

@quartz cave this is taking time off my beauty sleep

im joking hiiiiii

[quartz cave]

its ok youre beautiful on the inside imo

u should prolly sleep tho

[shrewd nymph]

I mean you havent seen my outside

But thank you

[quartz cave]

beauty on the inside matters WAY more

[shrewd nymph]

They dont gotta be mutually exclusive tbf

[naive pilot]

yoyoyoyo guys

[shrewd nymph]

Anyways hows ur day

[naive pilot]

tell me a hk character

[quartz cave]

i finished my ingles essay

[shrewd nymph]

Any?

[naive pilot]

ye

enemy

or

[shrewd nymph]

ooo do we get to know what about?

[quartz cave]

about commodification and reification of identity as a type of dystopia

[shrewd nymph]

Brumm

[naive pilot]

nvm, other one 💔

[quartz cave]

sly

[naive pilot]

k sly

[shrewd nymph]

Are you sure thats English?

Sounds foreign

[naive pilot]

sly 🔥

[shrewd nymph]

Wtf thats sick

[autumn ice]

ty ty

[quartz cave]

its based on woke marxist theories

[naive pilot]

tyy

[shadow lily]

what the fuck is this book

[autumn ice]

it's probably pretty cooked for today but i'll be back tomorrow

[shrewd nymph]

This is why i hate English as a subject

[naive pilot]

hk book!

[shadow lily]

i want it

[shrewd nymph]

sounds difficult

[naive pilot]

thats why im the book guy

[shrewd nymph]

math >

[quartz cave]

i enjoyed writing it tho

[naive pilot]

tell me other character!

[subtle hull]

english is the best subject

second best

[shadow lily]

in hk right, not ss

[earnest narwhal]

Anyone wanna help a guy out

[shrewd nymph]

I prefer your sshadow takes tbh

[naive pilot]

yes

[quartz cave]

ngl my inspiration was this song

https://open.spotify.com/track/1QOjSg4LVUTFtLJba1SWha?

[shadow lily]

show me radiance

[shrewd nymph]

oooo lemme listen

[naive pilot]

i got you

[quartz cave]

live love laugh sofia isella

[subtle hull]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-crying-because-he-doesnt-want-to-lose-padme-gif-1361251639282343324

[shrewd nymph]

Ive been abusing smart shuffle today for some success

[earnest narwhal]

I'm lwk looking for good charms but I just started the game I have 4 notch slots and I'm looking for more

[shadow lily]

that shit fire

[shrewd nymph]

I got high expectations

[naive pilot]

fr

[shadow lily]

can u show me the cover of the book

[alpine ibex]

god, forgot how frustrating no eyes ascended arena is

[shadow lily]

well made asf

[shrewd nymph]

@quartz cave you did NOT warn me about the lyrics

[leaden current]

went from healing boss to barely surviving boss

[alpine ibex]

made several mistakes, including getting to the top platforms, and actually got knocked out in P5

[naive pilot]

yep, its so peak

[leaden current]

btw can you send links here

[alpine ibex]

seriously, that bottom platform is such a deathtrap

[noble reef]

i still have the old dreamer thingy (prob because i forgot to update)

[quartz cave]

SORRY

[naive pilot]

is ts peak

[leaden current]

says up to date but I also have it

[noble reef]

huh

[quick estuary]

How bad is 233 hours just for plat

[shadow lily]

damn bruh, thats good

[leaden current]

I think it's average(I have 170 hours with 2 achievements missing)

[quick estuary]

Isnt that shit, most people have it by like 150

Well from what ive seen

[shadow lily]

maybe they had experience

but still u did great asf

even im on 150 without those 13 achievements

[novel estuary]

GGS

[quick estuary]

It took me like 28 months to beat p5 LOL

[shadow lily]

OH GOD DAMN

28 MONTHS

[ashen wren]

Does anyone know where this skin is from

[quick estuary]

Id die to Abs rad then stop playing for like 2 months 💀

Again and again

[shadow lily]

same question does someone know where this skin from

[shadow lily]

i died against pv rad for 5 hours and stopped fighting him for 3 months

[ashen wren]

I tried void something something didnt work

[shadow lily]

looks gas asf

[agile pewter]

Im not familiar, no

Better chance if you ask it in #modding-discussion

[shadow lily]

if u got that ping me @ashen wren i like skins in my mods plsss

[exotic furnace]

nail or spell build for lost kin

[shadow lily]

nail

[quick estuary]

Parries only

[shadow lily]

steady body, mark of pride, long nail is enough fr

[exotic furnace]

also if i do all dream warriors and lostkin i will have 1500 but i need 300 more

how do i get it ez

[shadow lily]

the roots

[exotic furnace]

im on grubsong quick slash shaman

maybe ill just switch shaman and use mark of pride

[shadow lily]

he doesnt move much but those r good too

[quick estuary]

Im just missing steel heart and speed completion on silksong but that fucking double damage is actually insufferable without Combat logging every 3 seconds 😭🙏

[shadow lily]

dawg i couldnt even survive the lava in steel soul

[leaden current]

if anyone asks for help on radiance just pull out the git gud

[shadow lily]

im so used to movement in hk that im trash in ss

[quick estuary]

The combat on silksong is so good but the fact that touching someones asshole does double damage to you is fucked

[exotic furnace]

silksong is hard cuz of the attack difference as well

[quick estuary]

I wouldnt mind it if the double damage was only for ATTACKS

Not just touching them on accident

[exotic furnace]

i use reaper crest so io play like hk

but the down attack is so slow and annoying

[shadow lily]

i cant fight good in silksong cuz im too used to tank fucking hits 😭

with double damage is crazy

[quick estuary]

The bosses are way easier in silksong but in return you have very little room for error

[shadow lily]

yeah its easy, tho im not used how to play hornet

if i was using knight sure

[quick estuary]

Wanderers crest trust

[shadow lily]

yeahhhh about that its too short

[narrow tree]

@shrewd nymph what happened bru

[shadow lily]

too small

[quick estuary]

What she said

[shadow lily]

experienced

[quick estuary]

Reaper is good

[shadow lily]

i just rely on tanking hits, my main fr is wanderer and use the flintstone tool thing

and I will not use architect

[quick estuary]

Witch coulda been a 10/10 if the heal wasnt so shit

[shadow lily]

plus with claw mirrors

aka flashbang

[quick estuary]

Prob the best movesets in the game tbh

Its just the heals

[shadow lily]

idek whats the reason for hornet saving lace in the abyss

[quick estuary]

My tentacles harasses nothing but air

[exotic furnace]

the attacks are too slow

[shadow lily]

anything other than "saving' her back

[exotic furnace]

i started ss after beating hks first ending

but i came back to hk like this week to pursue other endings and because its objectively more fun then ss

[quick estuary]

Prolly just to have a reason to make the knight have a lil cameo lol

[finite ember]

what are the hardest radhog bosses

[shadow lily]

which knight btw

the hk or the knight in hollow knight

cuz the horns r different

but ik its the hk

IDK BRO

[finite ember]

what other bosses other than sob will i have to suffer with

[exotic furnace]

where do u heal for lost kin

or is it just impossible

[shadow lily]

ngl the best chance

when the kin is staggered

but if u used defenders crest ur good cuz the orange globs wont reach u

[finite ember]

unless you use defenders crest its impossible

[quick estuary]

Heavily implied that its OUR knight

[exotic furnace]

how much notches is defenders crest

[shadow lily]

2

[shadow lily]

rlly?

[naive pilot]

im back

[finite ember]

1

[shadow lily]

@quick estuary the horns r very different that ik this is the hk

[naive pilot]

should imake a yt Channel about the hollow knight book?

[shadow lily]

oh wait

[naive pilot]

like doing a review

[shadow lily]

right

hk has 3 arcs

DAMN

BUT

thats the small form

so thats hk

[quick estuary]

Embrace the void ending kinda confirms it

[shadow lily]

man

right cuz

the hk shade

is big

so yeah i got ur point that is our knight

[quick estuary]

OOPS

I mean

Embrace the void

[shadow lily]

embrace the void?

[quick estuary]

Pantheon 5

Oh shit

U havent finished it

[shadow lily]

i did

but why embrace the void

[quick estuary]

Oh what

[quick estuary]

He turns into the shade lord

[shadow lily]

isnt that all the shades

[quick estuary]

Those are just shades

[shadow lily]

cuz the achievement said "Take ur place at its peak"?

i thought those r just

shades combined

or somewhat different character

[quick estuary]

He IS the shade lord

[shadow lily]

fair enough

[finite ember]

WHY IS SISTERS OF BATTLE SO RNG

[shadow lily]

oh right

eyah

[finite ember]

WHY IS THIS BOSS SO BAD

[shadow lily]

i get it now

[finite ember]

STUPID BOSS

[quick estuary]

Idk how he became the shade lord tho it was never implied how he became THAT

[shadow lily]

voidheart probably

[brazen moth]

path of pain

[finite ember]

ayo guys

🙂

WHY DO BOSSES NEED TO HAVE RNG

[brazen moth]

im stuck in the litteral first room

[quick estuary]

Oh yeah

[brazen moth]

someone is fighting obblobles and isnt enjoying his time

[finite ember]

is hollowknight black heart a rumored thing, true or js a made up fanbase thing

[shadow lily]

blackheart?

[finite ember]

idk i js saw it somewhere

[finite ember]

sisters of battle.

also theres gna be 2 silksong dlc right

the boss with the worst possible rng

[wicked oxide]

sob is very well telegraphed imo

[brazen moth]

dosent have too much RNG if you ask me

[finite ember]

try rad sob

[wicked oxide]

I have

[shadow lily]

ill do it first try

and see what it made u hate it so bad

[wicked oxide]

it’s not that bad imo

[finite ember]

they can spawn on the edges of the arena in me

[shadow lily]

oh hell no then nvm

if they can spawn in the same side

[finite ember]

they can literraly spawn in me

[wicked oxide]

all it takes is good positioning

[brazen moth]

definitly a silkpost lmao

[spiral vault]

Sob

[ashen wren]

u will beat it trus

[quick estuary]

Oh and pure vessel is like twice the Knight's size

Dudes a fucking tree

[shadow lily]

yeah i figured when i saw the shade in dream no more

[shadow lily]

i got that dawg in me

[ashen wren]

what skin u got on

[finite ember]

after 100+ attempts, i can say its harder than regular absrad

[shadow lily]

lil radiance

[quick estuary]

Im not in yet

[ashen wren]

that changes rad into pale king

[shadow lily]

I fucking know and i cant see shit

[wicked oxide]

just position yourself well, it took me ~4 tries

[spiral vault]

Sob

[finite ember]

gng wtf

[shadow lily]

Lets see

[finite ember]

the mantis spawned in me again'

[wicked oxide]

don’t go to the edges

[spiral vault]

stop being where they spawn

An iq too high

[wicked oxide]

and pay attention to where they’re spawning

[finite ember]

and when ill beat them, ill have to fight oblobbles 🥀

🥀

[wicked oxide]

oblobbles radiant is not that hard smh

[shadow lily]

Wait is bro talking abt pantheon or rad

[mental osprey]

I like frog

[shadow lily]

Oh its rad

[finite ember]

rad

[wicked oxide]

frog

[mental osprey]

Frog

[finite ember]

gorf

[shadow lily]

Lem record this

[wicked oxide]

phrog

[mental osprey]

Phrahg

[wicked oxide]

phraough

[mental osprey]

Phruhg

[wicked oxide]

phrauhgh

[mental osprey]

Driving in my car right after a phrauhgh

[shadow lily]

Bro they do can do the slash in the same side

Tf

[wicked oxide]

hey that bump is shaped like a phrauhgh

[mental osprey]

Queens garden aim assist frog

Phrauhgh

[finite ember]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

STUPID BOSS

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[wicked oxide]

peak skin

[finite ember]

Its the 2nd best skin in the game, its amazing

[wicked oxide]

what’s the best one?

[lusty fiber]

sealed vessel best skin

[marble lodge]

My brother said that he would duel me in hkmp if I beak P5 all bindings. I have not even sucsessfully completed P5 yet so I am going to cheat it

[finite ember]

no, he will destroy you

[marble lodge]

What is the best posible way to cheat P5 all bindings

He has never done pvp. I have

[finite ember]

the way hornet uses

[shadow lily]

Ight i finished attuned let me see what makes rad hard @finite ember

I meant ascended

[spiral vault]

Lol

[finite ember]

i just beat rad sob, goodluck seeing the massive difference

[tribal gust]

Fr

[tall marten]

Yall got any tips on the ||failed champion||?

[spiral vault]

Radsob free lowk

[shadow lily]

They r

[finite ember]

https://tenor.com/view/firecheese-fire-cheese-mememachine-outerspacefrisbee-gif-21397219

[shadow lily]

Faster

Damn

[quartz cave]

between every phase you can pogo the back of failed champ to reset the stagger

so you have an infinite soul and heal window between every stagger

[finite ember]

its one of the 4 hard rad bosses

[quartz cave]

u can dnail the armor for soul

[quartz cave]

no?? 😭

[worn hamlet]

:o

never knew that before

[spiral vault]

Smoking

[worn hamlet]

what's radsob

[quartz cave]

the top 4 are like

absrad pv nkg and gpz

[finite ember]

oblobbles, rad and markoth?

[quartz cave]

radiant sisters of battles

[worn hamlet]

why is radiance sobbing

oh lol

that makes sense

[finite ember]

radiant nkg and pv is not hard

[worn hamlet]

yea no radsob is really free

[quartz cave]

oblobbles are absolutely bald to play against but its not ok

[quartz cave]

ehhh for a new player they are imo

[worn hamlet]

pv and nkg have too much of a solid rhythm to be hard radiants

[quartz cave]

but for more experienced players i think u can consistently get them

[worn hamlet]

the bosses that're more unpredictable are much harder

[tall marten]

I have yet to even reach the second phase

[finite ember]

unlike oblobbles.

[worn hamlet]

just to clarify u mean new radiant player right

[tall marten]

I suck at dodging.

[worn hamlet]

bit harder, but still pretty free with the right tactics

though ig that's kinda every boss in radhog

lol

[tall marten]

But I think I learned the pattern

[quartz cave]

hmmmm... dont greed for hits then. play slow

[shadow lily]

Rad mosscharger

[rigid fractal]

Ascended watcher knights is pissing me off.

[worn hamlet]

radhog is rly just free as long as you use the right tactics and have decent reaction time

[finite ember]

how in the funking skibidi tung tung sahur do i beat radiant oblobbles

[worn hamlet]

dash slash

[quartz cave]

i think the radiants the took most time for me are gpz obblobbles and absrad

[worn hamlet]

spacing and dash slash

[quartz cave]

i cheesed with elegy

[worn hamlet]

and watching other ppl do it

[quartz cave]

elegy is so cheesy

[worn hamlet]

or tutorials depending on what works for u

[finite ember]

this seems promising...

[quartz cave]

why is it still snowing

[worn hamlet]

elegy means no soul means harder

bc longer fight

[quartz cave]

its been snowing since 11 am

[worn hamlet]

if ur using elegy may as well slap a binding on there tbh

[quartz cave]

its 8 pm now

[tall marten]

my greed is my own downfall

[worn hamlet]

that do be how radiant bosses go lol

[shadow lily]

I mostly die from radhog cuz of the spikes

What

I meant radsob

[finite ember]

fr

[worn hamlet]

spikes in radsob?

did I forget an integral part of asc sob arena ;-;

[shadow lily]

The spikes in both sides

[worn hamlet]

ohh ye

[tall marten]

And here I am with the goal of fighting radiance

[worn hamlet]

I remember now

[worn hamlet]

haha

haha

...

radabsrad is hell :D

genuinely traumatizing

[tall marten]

How traumatizing?

[keen thorn]

bwah

[worn hamlet]

take more breaks than I did :D

[tall marten]

Worse than promised consort radahn? (Elden ring)

[worn hamlet]

on my scale of 1 to 10 I'd say around 4 or 5

btw I say my scale bc everyone experiences are different with trauma

[vernal urchin]

Hey guys

[keen thorn]

hi

[vernal urchin]

I always come back

[worn hamlet]

hoii

[worn hamlet]

pause

[vernal urchin]

Bro 😭

[worn hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/axolotl-gif-25232899

[shell orchid]

Whoever told me to get quick slash ilu not as friends obv

[keen thorn]

hi macaron

I kinda want a macaron rn

[worn hamlet]

mm

[shadow lily]

@finite ember i beat it

[worn hamlet]

hoii

[quartz cave]

hi im new here if i iirc correctly

[slate ferry]

quitting to go back to a bench makes me feel bad. Thoughts?

[shadow lily]

Its a good rad

Ngl

[worn hamlet]

only quit when ur at a bench, otherwise just close ur console without closing the game

[tall marten]

What do you think will give you a good idea on my scale?

[quartz cave]

genio why r u still jolly

[worn hamlet]

if u feel like it's cheating that is

otherwise just do what u wanna

[spiral vault]

Still plus speed minus special attack

[worn hamlet]

hmm

[quartz cave]

this means im new here no?

[keen thorn]

Because it's still christmas season

[vernal urchin]

Chat should I save up for a laptop

[worn hamlet]

ever been stuck on a couch for like 2 weeks bc of a sprained ankle

[spiral vault]

Closer to christmas than any other holiday 🤔 might have a point

[vernal urchin]

So I can stream hk

[worn hamlet]

or stuck on a couch for 2 weeks bc of any injury

[tall marten]

Sprained ankle is annoying

[keen thorn]

I was stuck in my hammock for a week because of a strong flu

[worn hamlet]

I think it's like just a tiny bit less than that

but also

depends on how many attempts it takes

[tall marten]

I can still walk up an down stairs with a boot

[worn hamlet]

it'll prolly be less traumatizing for u bc I have a major skill issue

[tall marten]

I see

[worn hamlet]

so it took me a lot longer than average

[shell orchid]

Hey you pro?

[worn hamlet]

damn

that sucks horribly

[tall marten]

Well I'm coming from elden ring and dark souls, so I enjoy difficult bosses

[worn hamlet]

oh ur not gonna be traumatized then ur sanity is prolly long gone XD

[shadow lily]

Fighting rad enraged guardian only taking a minute

[tall marten]

I see

I mean, I think I already found a good pattern for ||failed champion||

[shell orchid]

PLEASE

TELL ME

[shadow lily]

Run when he jumps

[worn hamlet]

[shadow lily]

Dont jump when he didnt

Wait

Yeah just dont go near if he doesnt jump

[tall marten]

I said I think, but you need the mantis claw and double jump for what i do

Shade cloak helps a lot with it tho

[shadow lily]

M1 + shade soul is such a op combo

[alpine ibex]

if he jumps, dash under him

Then unleash attack/cyclone asap

[tall marten]

And in Playstation terms?

[shadow lily]

Same thing

[shell orchid]

Oh ma god

[tall marten]

What is M1

What does it do

[shadow lily]

As in attacking

[tall marten]

It is just basic attack

[shadow lily]

Yeah

[tall marten]

Okay

[shadow lily]

Basic attack

With shade soul

U do like, using the shade soul when ur attacking

[woven hull]

this is cleary not because pantheon 5 scare me but is the invicibility glitch still working?

[tall marten]

Hold on, do dream bosses not give soul when you attack?

[shadow lily]

I think for failed champion

They dont unless u staggered him

[alpine ibex]

he has an easy way to generate soul anyways

[fluid sigil]

i was boutta finish radiant hornet and i die by walking into her while shes downed

[worn hamlet]

damn

[shadow lily]

What abt a staggered pv when he jumped

[worn hamlet]

ngl that kinda gives dying to a minion in the lk fight

[hoary fjord]

path of pain is indeed painful

my thumb hurts from spamming jump

[worn hamlet]

did that one time

please work with me discord gosh darnit

[tall marten]

Nvm, I think i found a more aggressive pattern that works better for ||failed champion|| than what i was doing

[worn hamlet]

for some reason agoneyes and octogonal stop sign are really close to each other in the emoji selection ._.

[alpine ibex]

Oooh nice, just did a radiant no eyes run while training her on ascended arena

[fluid sigil]

she ez

[alpine ibex]

seriously, staying to ONLY top left platforms helps enormously, maybe bottom right

[slate ferry]

why does ||Mato|| not seem to care that they have a squatter?

[alpine ibex]

bottom left is a death trap

[alpine ibex]

She's slow and frustrating

[worn hamlet]

mr mushroom studied under him for awhile and then decided to quit

[fluid sigil]

bros speaking about frustrating 😭

u didnt fight against massive moss charger yet

[worn hamlet]

I don't think you've played hk

like at all

unless ragebait

you know what prolly ragebait im dumb

[shadow lily]

I hate her balls kept hitting at me

[fluid sigil]

real real

[shadow lily]

I mean abs rad

[alpine ibex]

they can spawn on top of you if you are unlucky

[worn hamlet]

yup, but they're still reactable even if they do

just much harder to react to

[shadow lily]

I always die in phase 2 cuz of that so im very rushing to kill abs rad than dodging

[alpine ibex]

Phase.... 2

[worn hamlet]

please don't number the phases

[alpine ibex]

how do you die on phase 2 to those

[worn hamlet]

nobody knows what phase numbers are for absrad

describe the phase instead

eg: spiked floor, platforms, climb

[alpine ibex]

spike phase is still dodgeable

[tidal bloom]

I’m struggling with ||p1, mainly mawlek and brothers||, do people
Have advice for that?

[shadow lily]

Im too focused nailing her that i cant see where the balls spawning it

[alpine ibex]

you just gotta walk/dash so that they smash on the floor

[shadow lily]

It would been fine if its far

[worn hamlet]

ddark:

[fluid sigil]

i hate hornets balls

[shadow lily]

But its too close

[alpine ibex]

bro, you are rushing it

[shadow lily]

I dont use abilities

[alpine ibex]

dont focus on ONLY nailing her

[alpine ibex]

you know, that will fuck you over?

because there are some situations where dash is on cd, and you cant dodge otherwise

or platforms, good luck lol

[shadow lily]

I rlly don’t use abilities

[fluid sigil]

bros saving his soul for round 2

[shadow lily]

I just run and dash back

Still works cuz if i use dd i cant react too fast to dodge the next attack

And its 3am 😭

[worn hamlet]

if ur doing self imposed restrictions don't complain abt the results they have ._.

[tall marten]

How many phases does ||failed champion|| have?

[shadow lily]

If it works it works

[worn hamlet]

there are no situations in the game that ddark is absolutely 100% required for

[fluid sigil]

is quick focus good for radiant hornet

[worn hamlet]

the merit of quick focus isn't dependent on boss

[tribal gust]

hello macaron enjoyer

[worn hamlet]

but yeah it'll give you more opportunities to heal

hoi smazone :D

[lyric sorrel]

Shape of unn solos

[tribal gust]

😄

[worn hamlet]

honestly I could never figure out how to properly use shape of unn

never clicked for me

[lyric sorrel]

Very useful to me

[shadow lily]

damn bruh i kept swimming in the void if i used d dark

[lyric sorrel]

Im even using it against pv

[worn hamlet]

oo interesting

I mean if it's working well for u then that's awesome! :D

[shadow lily]

Isnt pv too fast for unn

How did it dodge that

[worn hamlet]

technically unn is unoptimal for all bosses, but honestly I'd prefer a free thinker over someone over-obsessed with dps

actually that was unecessary to say mb ._.

[shadow lily]

Bro now i feel offended

[worn hamlet]

maybe they kno the patterns well enough to anticipate the movements

[worn hamlet]

sorryy I didn't mean to D:

[shadow lily]

U hurt my feelings

[worn hamlet]

I kinda misinterpreted what u said at first

[shadow lily]

[worn hamlet]

;-;

[shadow lily]

Ur a monster

[tall marten]

I know it is at least 2

[worn hamlet]

I have no more funny crying emojis D:

rippies

[spiral vault]

Always stand on what you say fr

[worn hamlet]

nah

[shadow lily]

Actually jk im obsessed for dps than thinking clearly

He is right

[worn hamlet]

if I find smth more logical and solid than what my opinion is then ima switch up

[spiral vault]

Smh.my head

[worn hamlet]

if needed I can also explain why I switched up too :D

[real pasture]

Failed champion has no phases - he goes down 3 times like false knight, that’s it

[potent dust]

How many pantheon are they?

[worn hamlet]

why stick with something illogical

unless it's relationship-related those're irrational in their entirety

[tall marten]

That's what I meant by phases

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/void-eyes-context-eyes-groundhog-groundhog-void-eyes-noticing-gif-8155946197632244092

[worn hamlet]

well actually

maybe not

they just require their own type of logic

[real pasture]

Then you need to down it 3 times

[lyric sorrel]

Skill issue

[shadow lily]

Mb bro im not passive

[spiral vault]

Skissue in 2026

[potent dust]

Wild

[tall marten]

Okay

[spiral vault]

We are leaving elitism in 2025

[lyric sorrel]

It okay :D

[shadow lily]

I want my fights end fast

If i can only use fury of the fallen in rad