hk-discussion

[proud haven]

Btw I get hit in the run

But it's still my fastest

[wary hound]

in my best i got hit twice

[proud haven]

Based

I've done hitless atp but it was like

Worse than my speediest

[wary hound]

fair

[signal timber]

can someone rate my charm loadout

[wary hound]

wats ur charm loadout i see ur using sharp shadow

[proud haven]

100/10

[magic storm]

Smh why are you doing pop

[signal timber]

this is it

[magic storm]

Time to block

[wary hound]

for wat boss

[winter wren]

follow precept 5:strength beats strength

[signal timber]

uh i have 80% on the game uhm the radiance

[proud haven]

Mark of pride sharp shadow long nail sprint master dash master shaman stone

[wary hound]

do u have quick slash?

[wary hound]

thx shaman to kill kings mould faster

[proud haven]

Dw I haven't actually played hk in a long time fr
Not playing path of pain

[signal timber]

fu forgor to buy it

[winter wren]

im too good for charms cause im zote

[wary hound]

its alr

ur build can work

[proud haven]

Super helpful fr I've died to kingsmoulds at the end more than once

[finite ember]

chat is my build for absrad good?

[gray niche]

Really good and fun to read theories

[proud haven]

Yeah but idk what the white ones are

Grubsong strength should be good enough for u tho

[wary hound]

WAIT

wtf

[finite ember]

qfocus, dfocus, im using pale king skin so theyre white

[wary hound]

DID U know if u set ur nail damage to 0 and hit a bell it dont ring

[proud haven]

Oh okay based actually then yeah I believe in your heal strats

[proud haven]

Actually super cool info fr

[gray niche]

Do you get time to heal in the absrad fight?

[finite ember]

this is so random and useful

[wary hound]

i found this out just now via accidently setting w to - 4 nail damage

and trying to hit bekll

[finite ember]

yes

[proud haven]

When she's doing lasers, when she's doing sword circle (if you can think ahead properly) when she teleports super far away in plats, when she falls, and when she goes to the top at the end of plats

[wary hound]

where do u find ss useful?

[finite ember]

wait, i have an idea, i can set my dmg to 0 then practice the absrad last phase

[proud haven]

Shaman stone or sharp shadow

[runic shuttle]

yooo happy new years eve everyone

[proud haven]

Both r in the build

[shrewd nymph]

or spore shroom

[wary hound]

sharp shadow

[shrewd nymph]

happy new years

[finite ember]

happy shaw year

[gray niche]

Happy New Year's

[lone laurel]

I mean the worst you do is dodge a handful of projectiles, at least you can hit her freely and not worry about Contact Damage.

[finite ember]

spamming 'e' works for me

[proud haven]

Oh it's mostly just in like those tunnels or big open areas where the extra length gives u a slight speed boost fr
The speed helps you catch a room 3 cycle I really struggle to hit too

[gray niche]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22354984

[finite ember]

https://tenor.com/view/shaw-silksong-shaw-mewing-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-10701033448015821325

[wary hound]

room 3 cycle?

[proud haven]

I mean that's fair I really love that aspect of absrad and do think it makes the fight easier

[glossy nest]

wha

well no shi- actually lemme check something

[digital meadow]

how do u even get to absolute radi?

[proud haven]

In room 3 (this is straight up where I quit grinding path of pain so I'm not super knowledgeable on how to do it just how to fail at it terribly) if I go fast enough I can to shriek pogo to skip thorns skip (which I never accomplished either fr) which WOULD BE the best save in a run but I'm just like too slow
My hope is the load time on ps5 will let me be faster and better fr
I've watched enough pc runs of path of pain to know that my room entirely starts later than theirs on ps4 and it made me kinda give up fr

Now i got a ps5 and at some point I'll go test that theory on it fr

[wary hound]

i c

[glossy nest]

the foreshadowing is wild-

[proud haven]

Shriek pogo itself isn't super hard btw

[wary hound]

i think if u were to sumbit that load times were to be removed

[glossy nest]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[proud haven]

I practice it by dream nailing 2 or 3 king worshipping npcs before Path of Pain for the soul

[wary hound]

this the wr btw

[glossy nest]

leth had a steam once?

[subtle phoenix]

time for a charm i will only be using for white palace and nothing else

[frozen night]

Happy halloween

[proud haven]

I more meant like I just can't get to the cycle for it to be reasonably fast because the load times on ps4 literally like
Let the level play out and the saws move while I'm loading in

[proud haven]

Is it still zvy

[glossy nest]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[proud haven]

I never pay attention

[signal timber]

bro radiance is so hardd

[proud haven]

Could always give up

[gray niche]

Holy shaw, almost 9 years ago

[glossy nest]

gasps Sans!! (i swear im not being cringe its kinda a meme)

[frozen night]

Ur absolute not ready

[signal timber]

i didnt even get to phase 2?!?!?!?

[proud haven]

Dw we love sans here fr

I love undertale deltarune

[proud haven]

Of 6

[signal timber]

im not doing abs even😭

[signal timber]

what

theres 6?

WHAT

NO

[frozen night]

no

[signal timber]

IM RAGEQUITTING

BYE BYE

[proud haven]

Wait only if you're in absrad

[frozen night]

3

Normal is 3

[proud haven]

Normal radiance has less

Yeah

[glossy nest]

fair enough

[frozen night]

One is ground
One is platforms
Last is final blow

[glossy nest]

what no-

[proud haven]

If u ever quit rage quitting I believe in you and normal radiance has 3 phases only absolute radiance has 6 so sorry I scared u away from the game fr

[signal timber]

im back after a cup of radiacne

[signal timber]

ohhhh

[glossy nest]

both (i dont think they're different if its the corpse of an enemy)\

[hexed nacelle]

that’s for the unbreakable charms lol

[signal timber]

ty for telling me i legit almost rage quitted

[proud haven]

So sorry fr

[shrewd nymph]

i mean number of phases doesnt really say how long the fight is

[glossy nest]

i feel like they're just saying "f*ck you ghost"

[signal timber]

its ok bro

[frozen night]

Thats absoloute not radiant

[signal timber]

alr im fighting the radiance now so bye for now lol!

[glossy nest]

"cute" HOW

[frozen night]

They r calling it weak from dream nail

[glossy nest]

pretty much

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[proud haven]

Absrad feels like 2.5x longer than pure vessel
Or like 1.75x longer than nkg

[glossy nest]

moments from disaster ahh

[shrewd nymph]

nkg feels longer than both for me

[proud haven]

That's fair fr

[shrewd nymph]

such a slow and boring fight for me

pv i still enjoy

[proud haven]

Sm invincibility

[glossy nest]

you cant even touch a bug with it 😭

[proud haven]

Would u still enjoy pure vessel if at 100% 75% 50% 25% and also every like 12 hits he paused the fight and went invincible for differing lengths of time

[signal timber]

back to fighting

[frozen night]

Radiant pv is easier than markoth so ye

[finite ember]

p5

[heavy barn]

honestly i feel like absrad is the shortest after playing modded radiances for so long

[glossy nest]

i feel like what ||trobbio|| says at the end before he dies is acurate here-

[shrewd nymph]

sounds like my -norab clear (i constantly paused)

[digital meadow]

oh

[proud haven]

Does your enjoyment depend on how easy something is fr

[shrewd nymph]

but nkg pufferfish isnt too bad imo, its just the fact the fight is basically scripted

its the same thing over and over and it never changes

shhhh delete that

[proud haven]

Dw I gotchu

No one will know

[shrewd nymph]

🥸

[frozen night]

yes
As long as it doesnt do that triple slash

[signal timber]

ive heard that markoth p5 is hell i fought him normally and he was a pain in the frying pan

[proud haven]

Based

[shrewd nymph]

theres worse but the difficulty to enjoyment ratio is probably the worst

[quartz cave]

nkg is so monotone its jump, dash to where nkg is, get 2-3 hits in, repeat

[frozen night]

U wont get ground for him

[shrewd nymph]

but yeah with how i play it, its just charge nail art > use nail art > recenter
repeat

[quartz cave]

why did you only jump once during bat attack,,,

😰

[proud haven]

At least he looks cool fr

[quartz cave]

true

[shrewd nymph]

why would i jump more times 😭

[quartz cave]

idk it looks weird

[shrewd nymph]

maybe im horrific at the game, but that clip took like 10 tries

[quartz cave]

oh its that u didnt dash

[quartz cave]

what were u trying to capture...

[shrewd nymph]

the shriek

i got 2 ticks of it

[quartz cave]

ooh

[proud haven]

Is it worth it to shriek there

I use my spells during ball

[quartz cave]

i do a fireball on bat attack

[shrewd nymph]

9/10 times its 2 damage less than gslash m1 (although the latter is harder)
1/10 times it ticks twice and is 28 damage more than gslash m1

[hard sundial]

is it bad that I genuinely struggle with nkg

[shrewd nymph]

3rd hardest boss, no

[quartz cave]

dash thru bats -> nailslash -> fireball -> nailslash

[proud haven]

That's so cool

[quartz cave]

id argue gpz is more difficult ngl

[proud haven]

Nah that's extremely expected fr

[quartz cave]

nkg is really just muscle memory

[frozen night]

Is the first one markoth

[proud haven]

Radiant gpz is harder but imo base vs base nkg is harder for new players

[shrewd nymph]

absrad

[quartz cave]

absrad > pv > gpz

[frozen night]

i cant beat markoth on normal while i can beat absrad

[quartz cave]

gpz was harder for me to beat as a new player iirc

[shrewd nymph]

this is the real nkg meta

[quartz cave]

for reference nkg took like 35 tries ish?

[thick widget]

I've had a harder time with nkg ngl

[proud haven]

New players r just like "i beat the dream guy in the statue" and they're like "OMG NKG IS SO IMPOSSIBLE" but some people just have issues with gpz fr

Maybe it's like

You're too distracted by his body

[zealous notch]

whats up with this fat guy

[proud haven]

And his beauty

To play right

[quartz cave]

waiting for a mod that puts tribe of battle with nightmare and void in ascended gruzmother arena when

[frozen night]

Go up

[thick widget]

Huh.

[shrewd nymph]

i would like a harder nightmare and void

but tribe of battle is glorified ddark spam for me

[quartz cave]

inferno king grimm with pale shadow

[shrewd nymph]

ive actually never fought ikg 😭

i skipped right to aikg

[static charm]

are they kissing 😭

[quartz cave]

what the heck is aimg

aikg

[proud haven]

I was saying that oswald being worse at nkg than gpz first time around can be explained by him looking at gpz too much during the fight
Since we know gpz is "beautiful, sensual, alluring, monstrous, godly, and evil"

[shrewd nymph]

absolute inferno king grimm

[frozen night]

Lesbians

[thick widget]

No they're obviously caressing each other as homies

[quartz cave]

DID SOMEONE SAY YURI

[shrewd nymph]

ignore the fact its 3 times and not 5 (i hate puffer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWVvP3leo0

[frozen night]

Absolute primal pure nightmare king markoth

[static charm]

oh

[static charm]

radiation blue

[quartz cave]

no idea whats the diff ngl but gj

[shrewd nymph]

aikg is just harder ikg

[proud haven]

Hollow knight fandom is so lesbian focused I feel so out of place
Maybe in 25 years I'll find out I'm secretly a woman and a lesbian fr

[quartz cave]

i havent played lots of mod

[shrewd nymph]

neither but i should do some more

[quartz cave]

im a lesbian soccer mom of 5

[proud haven]

Makes sense fr

[shrewd nymph]

oswald is still in his youth

[proud haven]

Her*

[quartz cave]

whats the equivalent of soccer mom but for dads

[shrewd nymph]

mb mb

[proud haven]

Soccer mom.

[quartz cave]

ballet dads

[proud haven]

Omg it'd hhave to be fr

[hearty monolith]

if i eat the knight would i absorb his shade and become a vessel

[proud haven]

Good answer

[quartz cave]

transwald 2026???

[proud haven]

U aint got the shell u need to hold it in I dont think

[shrewd nymph]

i support

[proud haven]

Gotta get god bones

[hearty monolith]

i mean i am prettty hard i think i can contain it

[proud haven]

I expect all hollow knight friends that are he/him to become trans lesbian women at some point in the back of my mind cuz of like
How high the counter is at this point of that happening

[quartz cave]

hmmm

[shrewd nymph]

the amount of mtf players in hk is insane

[proud haven]

Oswald will join the band wagon

[quartz cave]

idk if its hk tbh

[proud haven]

Eventually fr

[shrewd nymph]

and also how theyre all insanely skilled

[quartz cave]

its math nerds / celeste players

[proud haven]

It's crazy fr

[shrewd nymph]

but im staying male

[proud haven]

for now

[shrewd nymph]

okay dont make this weird

but i love having my shirt off

so i gotta stay a man

ykwim

right

[static charm]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-curi-meme-patamas-geo-curimomo-gif-11499897465433316147

[proud haven]

Just move somewhere where that's acceptable

Fr

[shrewd nymph]

also if i take estrogen then id get weaker i think maybe (?)

so no go

[proud haven]

I thought I might be trans for like a little bit I think because I was surrounded by gay, trans, etc. friends irl and they were all like generally thinking I was probably trans too
But I thought about it a lot and landed on no fr
I'm just too hot of a man

[shrewd nymph]

shrue

you do have luscious locks though

[proud haven]

My hope is to have long wizard hair

When old enough

I wanna be an old man fr

[shrewd nymph]

long grey beard that looks like an open scroll

[proud haven]

I'll buy those like

Flash fire gadgets

To scare people

With fake wizardry

[delicate cradle]

Is there really no shortcut between a stag station and godhome?

[shrewd nymph]

theres a shortcut under the nailsmith

[proud haven]

Closest is storerooms fr

[delicate cradle]

Oh...

[vernal prairie]

I got this ending without kingsoul but it still says completion 98%

What do I do?

[shrewd nymph]

endings are unrelated to %

and you can continue playing after the ending

[hearty monolith]

get kingsoul

[finite ember]

o hell nahhh i died at vfk in p5..

[vernal prairie]

So how do I make it 100%?

[quartz cave]

long hair is a curse

i became free today

[vernal prairie]

Oki.also is that pfp from brawlhalla?

[shrewd nymph]

loads of things, like each charm is a % for example

but max is 112, not 100

[hearty monolith]

get kingsoul, go to abyss, and embrace the void

[hearty monolith]

ye

[quartz cave]

well i didnt have THAT long hair

[vernal prairie]

Oh oki

[quartz cave]

holy shit the fireworks starting already

[vernal prairie]

I see...I once tried the game.I stopped cause I had really high pings cause of shit network and also "huge skill issue."

[quartz cave]

sony headphones for the rescue

[proud haven]

I am too pretty with shoulder length hair with my beautiful curles and golden hair and blue eyes fr
Can't forsake the one gift god gave this 5ft 6' man

[quartz cave]

noise cancellation my beloved

[shrewd nymph]

what time is it for you?

[quartz cave]

wtf im stealing ur hair

[delicate cradle]

Guys what are the charms I am missing? Also do charms count towards %?

[vernal prairie]

Bro finna marry his headphones at this rate

[shrewd nymph]

each charm is a %

[quartz cave]

four colon twenty six pee em

[delicate cradle]

That's almost 6-7% right there...

[quartz cave]

i love them sm jrdkdldlls

[vernal prairie]

Lifeblood core shroom charm unbreak strength I forgot rest

[shrewd nymph]

im gonna cry

[delicate cradle]

7 exactly

[hearty monolith]

ur missing spore shroom in fungal waste, and a lifeblood charm in iforgot where

[delicate cradle]

I got unbreak strength

Kk thanks

[shrewd nymph]

airpods >
(i dont want a hair dent)

[vernal prairie]

I got it the moment I learnt how to unbreak it.I beat nosk after I got unbreak.

[vernal prairie]

In abyss.

[delicate cradle]

I think I beat nosk after beating base grimm

[hearty monolith]

isnt jonis blessing the one in abyss

the one on the right

[shrewd nymph]

thats lifeblood core

jonis is in howling cliffs iirc

[delicate cradle]

Joni's blessing is in Howling thing....

[vernal prairie]

I killed nosk because I really wanted to get at least coiled nail in the early game.I beat Grimm pretty late after killing two dreamers.

[finite ember]

bruh

[hearty monolith]

abyss, howling, pretty much same place

[finite ember]

where tf is dung defender

[vernal prairie]

Nope.it is in howling cliffs behind a hidden wall.

[quartz cave]

i too use earbuds but the noise cancellation on my earbuds is like okay at best

the headphones make u deaf

[shrewd nymph]

he'll come up in a second

[shrewd nymph]

250k yearly minutes of spotify made my ears kinda cooked so noise cancelling removes EVERYTHING, its perfect

[delicate cradle]

No... There are on two different places.... Howling is near king's pass abyss is below ancient basin...

[quartz cave]

my hearing is very sensitive iirc so im bery dependent on noise cancelling

[vernal prairie]

Went to get isma's approval to leave the waterways for Lil bit so he can fight in pantheon and get whopped by you.

[quartz cave]

????? 250

are u ok

[hearty monolith]

close enough

[quartz cave]

i thought i had much with like 45k

[shrewd nymph]

music top 2 things oat

[delicate cradle]

[shrewd nymph]

depends on the time of day

[vernal prairie]

Be a man,boy endure your inner noises.

[subtle phoenix]

fuck you

[vernal prairie]

Hey now he is just asking for help by raising his hands and you are being very rude to him.

[subtle phoenix]

sorry

respectfully, fuck you*

[vernal prairie]

Say that to the infected life blood seed.not the poor vessel.he did nothing wrong plus he is dead so you are saying fuck you to a corpse.

💀

[subtle phoenix]

shouldnt have gotten infected

[vernal prairie]

It literally wasn't in his hands. 😭

[subtle phoenix]

fair enough

[hearty monolith]

shoulda taken vacccines

[civic temple]

Say that to radiance bruh, she did all of this
Or to the pale king? Idk

[hybrid holly]

is this parkour section important i lowkey don't wanna do this shit

[gray niche]

Would the vaccine be a void shot, theoretically?

[vestal cedar]

Yes

Well

[upper remnant]

he got no hands bruh

[hybrid holly]

UGH I CAN'T DO IT BRUH

[hearty monolith]

actually it is optional

[vestal cedar]

It isnt required to beat the game but it unlocks the way to the main mantis village

Here’s a tip; you can dash while clinging onto walls

[civic temple]

If you want a charm and a not really hard battle, yeah do it

[hearty monolith]

is deepnest even required

[vestal cedar]

As in dashing will make you dash off the wall

[hearty monolith]

oh ye dreamer

[vestal cedar]

Yes

[upper remnant]

wait it gives a charm

[civic temple]

Yea

[upper remnant]

which one

[hybrid holly]

I can't even do the first part of it without getting spiked a few times

[vestal cedar]

Mark of PEAK

[civic temple]

Mark of pride

[upper remnant]

what

i did that section and i didnt get shit

what

[vestal cedar]

increases your nail range by 25% for 3 charm notches

[hybrid holly]

omg i did it

[vestal cedar]

It isnt dropped directly

[hybrid holly]

wow it was easy

[civic temple]

You should do that a not hard battle first

[vestal cedar]

There’s a room to the right side somewhere that’s initially blocked off by a mantis warrior until you beat lords

[upper remnant]

the what

[hearty monolith]

most parkour sections in the game are not hard

[civic temple]

Ok you wanna spoil?
The mantis lords battle

[upper remnant]

i know all the lore and game progression so uh i knew that already

[civic temple]

Oh lol

[hearty monolith]

hes 5 steps ahead

[upper remnant]

the downsides of getting spoiled

[hybrid holly]

I did it then got cooked by 4 flying mantises

[hybrid holly]

That's not even hard bruh it looks easy

[hearty monolith]

i could fight 5 at once

wait they should make that

[hybrid holly]

Probably not true, it'd be too overcrowded

[civic temple]

Yeah but for the first time, its kinda hard cuz i didn't know how to dodge them at first

[hybrid holly]

P5 has 3 and it already cooked people

[civic temple]

But then after knew how to dodge, its damn easy

[hearty monolith]

we need a p6

[shrewd nymph]

p6 exists in mods 👀

[upper remnant]

please don't

[civic temple]

We already have that

[vestal cedar]

They die instantly to vengeful spirit btw

[civic temple]

But with mods

[tough blade]

please no

[heavy barn]

i'd say people generally consider sisters easy but fun

[vestal cedar]

At worst you can return to mantis village with some upgrades

[heavy barn]

5 would be cool though ig

[upper remnant]

i don't see how flying mantises are worse than the slashing ones

when i got to mantis village for the first time i got shattered by that before realizing i could jump over/pogo them

[tough blade]

5 mantis would just be dived right

[upper remnant]

wdym

[tough blade]

simple mostly

[tough blade]

spell

[upper remnant]

how is it easy to ddive them

[tough blade]

with 5 it would be very easy

[upper remnant]

wait nvm aoe dmg

[heavy barn]

no ou could dodge it pretty normally i think

[hearty monolith]

desolate dark

[tough blade]

so with dive

[heavy barn]

diveless

i don't think you'd need dive for only 5

if you had like 10 you'd have to

[tough blade]

why would you not use dive tho

[hybrid holly]

Okay mantis lords are ngl easy I just gotta learn their Patters and when to heal, they're not really fast

[upper remnant]

descending dive

[worthy peak]

There are those who will not

[hybrid holly]

Is fighting mantis lords with just soul catcher and no extra masks ok

[upper remnant]

like me !!

[hybrid holly]

Or do I get something else

[hearty monolith]

i fought it with shama stone only

[hybrid holly]

I only have dashmaster, the compass, soul catcher, and the thorns shit

[hearty monolith]

and i never used a spell on it

[worthy peak]

Some people do anyrad without dive

And I've met one who intends to do their first clear without it

[worthy peak]

Yep

[tough blade]

that doesnt make the solution not to dive

[upper remnant]

what does quick cast do btw

[worthy peak]

Does mean that people won't use it though. To explain their reason. It's noskill in their opinion. That's why people won't use it

[worthy peak]

Cast when button pressed instead of on release

And can't focus so no mixups there

[shrewd nymph]

just a better spell bind but you have to have it independant of healing

[hearty monolith]

quick focus button when

[upper remnant]

HOLY SHIT THATS OP
I THOUGHT MY KEYBOARD WAS LAGGING WHEN I TRIED TO USE DDIVE

[tough blade]

well i said dive wins and he said you could dodge normally but dive is just better

[wary hound]

UR STIL AWAKE

[shrewd nymph]

you're an hour ahead of me

but yes improved sleep schedule im going to bed now

[wary hound]

FAIR but my friend who i dont talk to much called

so

[shrewd nymph]

fair enough then, thats nice

goodnight

[wary hound]

i got him to get hollow knight

GOOD NIGHT

https://tenor.com/view/grimm-nightmare-king-grimm-troupe-master-grimm-hollow-knight-goodnight-gif-12830119853780674915

[worthy peak]

I was answering "why would you not use dive"

[graceful frigate]

Guys i have a challange for crazy pepole

[wary hound]

elaborate

[graceful frigate]

Thorns only pure vesel

[wary hound]

wat else do iget?

charms wise

[shrewd nymph]

rq

thorns only p5 has been done iirc

[wary hound]

...

wAT

[hearty monolith]

i feel like i cant live without sharpshadow shade cloak

[worthy peak]

Not super op really but definitely worth learning. Cause you could just release faster to almost match speed

[hybrid holly]

When can I heal

[worthy peak]

On the two or the one

[wary hound]

gimmme build

[graceful frigate]

Kingsoul obv

[hybrid holly]

Tell for both

[upper remnant]

no but i'm too used to holding down cast button to heal

[wary hound]

ud ont need that

[graceful frigate]

Easier that way

[wary hound]

NO so much slwoer
AND NOT WORTH THE OVERCHARM

[graceful frigate]

Also probably shape of unn and baldur shell

[worthy peak]

Actually mostly the same. Heal when they throw spears. For the one heal after. For the two heal before they reach you

[graceful frigate]

Yeah but what else for soul

[wary hound]

lemme thing of build rq

[worthy peak]

You can stand in centre and the spears miss you for one of the throw patterns

[wary hound]

this

[keen thorn]

It's called nail only and it's a really hard challenge

On par with ascended

[graceful frigate]

Gruberfly?

[wary hound]

or u can swap elegy and grub song with dnail

[wary hound]

theres a charm combo with grubsong and elegy basically if ur max hp and take damage u get 25 soul

instead of like 13

[graceful frigate]

Somone did v2 on radiant

[worthy peak]

Unless your spoog in which case you use shriek but not dive for no good reason

[hearty monolith]

they should make voidheart have the same effect as kingsoul

[keen thorn]

Yeah lol

[graceful frigate]

True

[keen thorn]

But shriek and SS barely matter so it's still essentially nail only

[worthy peak]

I am aware

[upper remnant]

they should make it so that your shade spawns closer to you when you die

[gray hemlock]

yayy first try

[wary hound]

no top op and is pure vessel dream nailable

[keen thorn]

But also nail only anyrad is not popular because it's RNG hell

[worthy peak]

I felt the difference was meaningful

[wary hound]

wow 1st try is NICE

[keen thorn]

2.0 was designed to not have ddark in mind so it's actually bearable

[graceful frigate]

I wonder will the be a 4.0

[hybrid holly]

The low throw always gets me, but ngl it's very eady

[gray hemlock]

yea its my second time in the game

[hybrid holly]

Easy

[wary hound]

oh wait

[keen thorn]

Bob Fred said he's not making it

[wary hound]

second playthrough

[gray hemlock]

yeah

[graceful frigate]

Yeah but other pepole exist

[wary hound]

still nice

[gray hemlock]

on my first like 5 tries or 6

[keen thorn]

The thing is they can make any other mod

Anyrad prime exists

[wary hound]

im attemtping ur challenge

[heavy barn]

a 4.0 would be actually unplayable

[keen thorn]

But a mainline anyrad comes with expectations

[magic glacier]

bringing up prime is NEVER a good point

[keen thorn]

Ponder

[wary hound]

how make boss harder

add 21 hp

[worthy peak]

I don't think it would be accepted as 4.0 though

[graceful frigate]

I guess it wouldnt

[wary hound]

do uk the damage output of thorns of agony

[graceful frigate]

Low

[worthy peak]

2 x nail

[wary hound]

SO MUCH BETTER THEN EXPECTED

[worthy peak]

Not buffed by strength

[hybrid holly]

I got cooked by mantis lord and now my screen is shaking tf???

[hearty monolith]

does it scale with nail upgrades

[wary hound]

xpected

[hybrid holly]

I'm back at bench

[worthy peak]

Very limited use case

[graceful frigate]

So 42 dmg on pure nail

[wary hound]

@graceful frigate gave chalenge thorns only purevessel

[worthy peak]

As it only gains one hit over charmless sometimes

[spiral solar]

Happy new year everyone in Singapore time zone!

[worthy peak]

With kingsoul as well I assume

[wary hound]

happy new year

[wary hound]

no

king soull mids

[heavy barn]

if you land both hits

[worthy peak]

Then how will you deal enough damage

[wary hound]

deep focus elegy grub song is an infinte soul no nail machine

[worthy peak]

Thorns only really sucks to play by the way even with infinite soul

[heavy barn]

double damage:

[wary hound]

oh wait

FUCK

[worthy peak]

Not with double damage

[graceful frigate]

And pv has 1.6k health so 39 hits in the best case

[wary hound]

dam

ok

[graceful frigate]

Or 78 masks

[wary hound]

ill give myself king soul

[worthy peak]

Provided you over this incredibly long time period don't get hit by a long ranged attack or get dashed through too quickly or take too much knockback or...

[graceful frigate]

Ill edit hold on

[gloomy pumice]

for some reason PV feels like he got low hp

[hybrid holly]

Alright mantis lords MIGHT be hard

[ivory storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-backfire-death-pain-gif-3684222954881110574

[gloomy pumice]

wait are u rudie

[hybrid holly]

I just keep tweaking when seeing the throw

[worthy peak]

You can do it:)

[hybrid holly]

No I'm acid

[wary hound]

fucl bro

i hit like 1 hit

[gloomy pumice]

eh same pfp got me

[worthy peak]

Eventually it clicks

[graceful frigate]

1600 hp

[gloomy pumice]

what throw

[gloomy pumice]

thats why i said eel

feel

fsfs

[wary hound]

cani use spore shroom

[ivory storm]

@gloomy pumice what's 61 A

[gloomy pumice]

61 achievements

[keen thorn]

Ohhh thorns only PV

[ivory storm]

Get the last 2 bro

LOCK IN

[wary hound]

yeh idk why im doing this

[graceful frigate]

It wouldnt be thorns only but sure

[wary hound]

dam

[keen thorn]

Yes turns out for double damage elegy + grubsong + deep focus is not enough

[wary hound]

u had to say

[gloomy pumice]

banishment and kill nailsmith rah

[wary hound]

IT WOULDNT BE THORNS ONLY

[keen thorn]

The solution is actually Hiveblood

[wary hound]

yeh

[ivory storm]

Ez af what

[wary hound]

BIG BRAIN

[keen thorn]

Idr the exact build wait

[gloomy pumice]

i dont wanna kill nailsmith and takes too long for banishment

[wary hound]

ik it dont worry

[worthy peak]

Makes thorns only sooo much more bearable. Try taking out moss knights or mushrooms with just thorns it takes aaaaagggggeeees

[keen thorn]

https://youtu.be/iWzNQ60C5ys?si=Yrd3JX38ugmoOu2r

[shadow lily]

Beating pantheon 5 before new year failed 🥀

[keen thorn]

Yes it's legit thorns only

[wary hound]

,....

[ivory storm]

Same bro, same...

[keen thorn]

@glacial cliff it's your video! :>

[gloomy pumice]

knight had void juice

[wary hound]

wait how is that build doable

does he switch

[keen thorn]

he changes builds for PV and AbsRad

[wary hound]

for double damage bosses

[wary hound]

isee

not nkg?

[keen thorn]

PV is just funny because it's the only boss that can't deal 1 damage

[wary hound]

or does he have dream nail possibilties

[keen thorn]

nkg you can fall into the void

Champ has rocks

Enraged has spikes

TL has contact damage

And AbsRad also has the void

PV always does 2 damage

[graceful frigate]

TL?

[wary hound]

i see but LIKE why woudl this matter ? does he juse heal to max and jump to his death till max soul

[keen thorn]

Elegy + Grubsong + deep focus is net positive soul

[wary hound]

i have 2 notches agony elegy grub song and hive blood

[keen thorn]

You can repeat the process to gain back another mask eventually

[wary hound]

ik

that

[wary hound]

yeh figured

[crisp willow]

O-oh god

[graceful frigate]

Who is tl?

[keen thorn]

Traitor Lord

[graceful frigate]

Oh

[wary hound]

do radiant thorns only ( possible trust )

[gloomy pumice]

lemme complete my p5 eb since ab will take longgggg

[zealous skiff]

on uumuu yes

[wary hound]

at

wat

WAT

fym

ON UUMUUU

[keen thorn]

Baldur shell lol

[wary hound]

oh

WOW

[keen thorn]

You just need 4 jellies to kill Uumuu

You bring kingsoul for soul

And you can Baldur the jellies

[naive dew]

BRO

GN

[keen thorn]

Radiant uumuu doesn't need voidheart so it's legit

[zealous skiff]

YES I WILL

[wary hound]

fair

[zealous skiff]

I WILL OK

I PROMISE

iodehiodeide

[naive dew]

LMAP

[wary hound]

lol i almost mentioned that

[zealous skiff]

dnail alos works

[naive dew]

Bro you arent me

[wary hound]

oh and for 4-5 less notches

[keen thorn]

But it's less in the spirit of the challenge

[zealous skiff]

are you sure its only 4?

[keen thorn]

Kingsoul is sillier

[naive dew]

Its THREE AM

[keen thorn]

Yes

[zealous skiff]

i thought it was 7 or how much dmg do they do

[naive dew]

Hellenio!!

Hellomp

I

[timber matrix]

I beaten the watcher knights

[naive dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/1425088227928178719/CHOMP.gif

[wary hound]

w or l build or do i switch it up a bit

[keen thorn]

Oh rip it's 5

Yeah you need carefree

[graceful frigate]

I think that it should be enough

[keen thorn]

For single damage or double damage?

[wary hound]

double

[zealous skiff]

you can double

[graceful frigate]

Take off voidheart ig

[wary hound]

no

[keen thorn]

You net -16 soul per 2 hits

Deep focus Grubsong nets -3 but you can't bring unn

[wary hound]

assuming i dont get healed by hive blood and heal up normally

[keen thorn]

No assuming you always heal with Hiveblood

[ivory storm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[upper remnant]

how much is 1 soul

[wary hound]

oh

[keen thorn]

?

[zealous skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syd4DYv32EA it took 6 oomas here

[graceful frigate]

1 soul is 1 soul

[keen thorn]

Oh yeah, jellies do a max of 150 damage

[graceful frigate]

You need 33 to cast or heal

[keen thorn]

But if you're unlucky uumuu can move out of the way

[zealous skiff]

ah ic

[keen thorn]

If you miss 100 damage you need another jelly

[zealous skiff]

0:56

[zealous skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/1405606329426641016/petpet.gif

[keen thorn]

Oh lol

[upper remnant]

this was on a question about hk btw

[wary hound]

WAT A DOUBLE HIT

[keen thorn]

But it's more rng than carefree

[lusty crypt]

Pantheon of the masochist

[wary hound]

builld??

d wield and agony

only

and shell

[zealous skiff]

more waiting*

[graceful frigate]

I found out you cant use the "bank" if you use carefree melodie

[zealous skiff]

i cant remember

[cerulean crescent]

yall check out this video i found on reddit

[keen thorn]

Yeah so I believe the first jelly hit twice because thorns pushed Uumuu away

[wary hound]

fair enough im just going to assume baludur d wielder and agony is pretty much all u need

[keen thorn]

Some more of those and it'll be enough to need another jelly

150 damage is thrice

[zealous skiff]

makes sense

[keen thorn]

Forgot to mention

[upper remnant]

tf did i just see

[zealous skiff]

gl if you are rying it

its very silly

[wary hound]

thx lol

[zealous skiff]

ok

gn genion

[graceful frigate]

I didn't think that anyone would take it seriously

[keen thorn]

Gn chomp!

[wary hound]

im doing uumuu

[graceful frigate]

Oh

Still good luck

[wary hound]

radiabt

[ivory storm]

radiab t

[gloomy pumice]

can we remove massive moss charger from p5

[wary hound]

RADIANT

[gloomy pumice]

like he is NOT a god

[keen thorn]

So think it this way
Grubsong is 15 soul per hit
GS + elegy is 25
Hiveblood heals 1 mask for free
Deep Focus heals 1 mask for free per heal

[ivory storm]

Radi all bindings tiktokscrolling

[gloomy pumice]

god of nothing

[keen thorn]

You need 33 soul per heal

[wary hound]

YES

[split field]

I was helping my friend and this happened

[gloomy pumice]

wha

[keen thorn]

With this you can do the math

[gloomy pumice]

what

whats wrong

[keen thorn]

In single damage Hiveblood well, works

[gloomy pumice]

am i blind

[ivory storm]

What is Collector god of in that sense

[gloomy pumice]

is there somethin wrong

[keen thorn]

But also elegy + GS + deep focus gets 50 soul and spends 33 to heal, so you net +17 soul

[gloomy pumice]

god of perverts

god of kidnappings

[ivory storm]

MOSS FLIP

[keen thorn]

Double damage tho

Hiveblood basically nullifies it

Or the other big combo

[split field]

The enemy floating

[gloomy pumice]

ahhhh

[wary hound]

i see

[keen thorn]

It just costs too much to bring both so you have to drop a charm

In this case dropping Hiveblood is dumb

[gloomy pumice]

is ur p5 ab now

since u got 926h maybe it is

[ivory storm]

[keen thorn]

Dropping elegy gives you 30 soul for the 2 hits so you net -3 soul

Dropping deep focus gives you 50 soul for the two hits but you need 66 to heal it so you net -16

Dropping Grubsong is even more dumb

[wary hound]

lol

[gloomy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-starfish-gif-26051009

[keen thorn]

What lol

[gloomy pumice]

chat gpt explain it to me simpilified

[gloomy pumice]

did u do p5 all bindings

[keen thorn]

Thorns of Agony only is a dumb challenge and you should never do it

[keen thorn]

Yeah

I eat P5AB for breakfast

[gloomy pumice]

i see

[gloomy pumice]

how u do absrad

i cant soul spell spam

[wary hound]

best i have otten so far is 2 hits

[keen thorn]

Well AbsRad is one of the hardest fights

[tough blade]

tasty

[keen thorn]

AB is even worse

You have to be careful about your soul

You can use it 2 ways: ddark defensively or shriek aggressively

[gloomy pumice]

i just did radiant charmless abs rad beat it cuz there wasnt soul limit but ab gives soul limit which pmo

[gloomy pumice]

ill play it defensively

cuz p5 takes too long

[keen thorn]

On plats this is the way

You want to use ddark defensively because most of the time it actually pushes back as aggression

[gloomy pumice]

absrad will be 10 mins long alone

ill have

uhhh

3 hits

or 4

[keen thorn]

When she comes to you ddark on her face to avoid her attack whole counterattacking

[gloomy pumice]

if i get hit by pv

its a 95% i wont get hit

if i dont get hit

thats

5 hits

i can survive

[keen thorn]

Well

[gloomy pumice]

i hit once then d dark for the swords

[wary hound]

doesnt going into absrad full heal u

[keen thorn]

For ground try to use shriek before spike floor comes

[gloomy pumice]

life blood

the 5 life blood

[keen thorn]

Once spike floor is on the map this is a good way to get rid of them

[wary hound]

oh ic

[hearty lance]

Yo guys how was this 2025 ?

[keen thorn]

But with no spike floor try to upslash rather than go in her face

[gloomy pumice]

it was hollow

[keen thorn]

And you can shriek

[hearty lance]

My man

[keen thorn]

Ddark doesn't hold much value if there aren't that many active threats

[gloomy pumice]

only thing good 2025 has is silksong ofc

[hearty lance]

Wait you're my weaker form

[gloomy pumice]

im currently way to hollow knight pure vessel

[hearty lance]

Uh so get rid of the radiance

[wary hound]

blud was prepared

[ivory storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[keen thorn]

@gloomy pumice https://youtu.be/bLoOxmEQDd4?t=55m28s

This AbsRad fight shows a really nice way to play ground

[wary hound]

WAIT A DANG MINUTE

[keen thorn]

With shriek and upslash

[hearty lance]

Actually this guy is more tough

[wary hound]

u onyly have 4 baldur shell charges

[gloomy pumice]

14

[keen thorn]

You should try to ddark for spike floor I did because I'm very comfortable without it

[ivory storm]

Hollow Perfection

[keen thorn]

Also don't greed orbs as I do, I know their movement by heart

[gloomy pumice]

ILL TRY and be as good as u with that life blood

[vestal cedar]

Should i get nail 3 or beat no eyes with only nail 1

[keen thorn]

But in general this is a good way to boost aggression without much risk

For plats you'll see exactly what I mean with ddark

[gloomy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[gloomy pumice]

14 hits as in u only took 14 hits through the entire pantheon 5 right?

[fringe flint]

😎😎

[keen thorn]

Yes

14 hit P5AB is insane lol

I didn't expect such a low PB at the time

Ts cat

[hybrid holly]

Okay mantis lords phase 1 is easy but my god phase 2 cooks me

[gloomy pumice]

ill try and not rush and try save life blood

[gloomy pumice]

what ur struggling with

[hearty lance]

Wait imma upgrade myself...

[wary hound]

wat

[hybrid holly]

everything, i'm not used to the speed yet

[gloomy pumice]

boundless infinity pv

[keen thorn]

Try to save lifeblood in P4 segment
Enraged, LK, No eyes, TL, WD

[gloomy pumice]

oh boy ur gonna have fun in dlc

[gloomy pumice]

wait whos lk and wd

[hybrid holly]

Ik about sisters of battle or wtv

[keen thorn]

Lost kin and white def

[gloomy pumice]

lost kin ehhh

[keen thorn]

But it's not that likely you'll get a lot of lifeblood past Markoth, gpz and champ

[gloomy pumice]

ill may get hit once cuz my range

[keen thorn]

If you have enough for them you may save some

[gloomy pumice]

camp is 99% no hit if im not playing dumb

[keen thorn]

But still anything to make them more comfortable should be good

[gloomy pumice]

good thing no gpz

nkg is if my brain is working to see the floor spikes

[keen thorn]

Have you tried and got to AbsRad yet

[gloomy pumice]

just walk

[gloomy pumice]

i died at markoth
i was rushing it too much

that was prob the problem

[hybrid holly]

Wdym

[keen thorn]

Still lol

Markoth is a big issue

[gloomy pumice]

ur struggling with the upper slam right

[gloomy pumice]

how do i hit em with no range charm

no spell spam no nail range

[keen thorn]

Nail Arts

[gloomy pumice]

ahh

i forgot those

[keen thorn]

Dash slash should be your friend

[hybrid holly]

Nah no attack is too hard I already know all the counters but I'm just not used to the speed yet, idk what upper slam is tho

[keen thorn]

For phase 1 you can land normal nail very comfortably

Phase 2 is a bit trickier

[gloomy pumice]

also gonna calculate the velocity of his shield so it doesnt slam my cranium

[keen thorn]

Dash slash and great slash albeit trickier make landing hits much easier

Also use shield spin

Abuse it

[gloomy pumice]

when they appear on top and try to stab u from above

[hearty lance]

I upgraded myself

[keen thorn]

https://youtu.be/1Nc_ybzQvQw?si=g9IwslwvuFia1QL0

[hearty lance]

FEAR ME VESSEL

[hybrid holly]

Oh, nah that's easy

[keen thorn]

Also watch this one

[stone mountain]

path of pain.

[wary hound]

yeh

[gloomy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-8691405304708562462

[hearty monolith]

path of happiness

[keen thorn]

@gloomy pumice mainly watch my phase 2

Phase 1 has a lot of agro

[ebon kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242787351898619968/1414155472646176819/togif.gif

[keen thorn]

But I take P2 slow and safe

Use your dash slash and shade soul off cooldown

In AB he should die fast

Shield spin is a free 2 hits in the right position

[keen thorn]

1 hit at the end if you're not ready

[gloomy pumice]

is that a mod ur using btw
the bindings

[keen thorn]

Togglable bindings

[gloomy pumice]

what the vessels prob saw;

[gloomy pumice]

alr i just got it lemme try ts

woah leonhk got drafted ah

[sly tartan]

should i attempt watcher knights

[gloomy pumice]

radiant?

[sly tartan]

no watcher knights

i havent beat the game yet

[gloomy pumice]

ohh

[hearty monolith]

they are easy if you have shade cloak

[gloomy pumice]

u got shade cloak or desolate dive?

[sly tartan]

both

[gloomy pumice]

ur good

u can easily beat em

[hearty monolith]

ye beat them up

[gloomy pumice]

shade dash through em if ur cornered

[sly tartan]

i always die if they get two tho

[ivory storm]

DAMN

[gloomy pumice]

focus on 1

[ivory storm]

YOUR NAME WTF

[sly tartan]

yea but the jumpy part is hard

[sly tartan]

what

[gloomy pumice]

its the guy

[wary hound]

id liketo reccomend a better strategy for helping players ( this is to keep their experience as best as possible ) ask for what they have and not if they have something it lets them get minimum spoilers ( sorry if i sould like a karen or something )

[ivory storm]

https://tenor.com/view/stag-last-stag-hollow-knight-okay-i-pull-up-capybara-gif-26063730

[gloomy pumice]

well by the "i havent beaten the game" i was like 70% sure hes spoiled already

[hearty monolith]

im more than halfway throuhg the game and i dont have lumafly lantern

[wary hound]

oh

but still

[gloomy pumice]

@sly tartan do u know what radiant is

[sly tartan]

i wish we could be able to go into these guyss railways

[sly tartan]

yeah

im new but ik a lot

[ivory storm]

Me too island dude, me too...

[gloomy pumice]

dont find out more trust save it for surpises

[sly tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/epstein-jeffrey-epstein-ethan-gif-13575813581334004253

[ivory storm]

[gloomy pumice]

i missed 1 r

rah

[sly tartan]

i alr know everything ✌️😭

[hearty monolith]

remove railways and i agree

[gloomy pumice]

😭

[dull leaf]

chat

[sly tartan]

idk what theyre called

[dull leaf]

is hk harder than elden ring?

[gloomy pumice]

no

[ivory storm]

[gloomy pumice]

silksong maybe

[sly tartan]

yes

[sly tartan]

lmao no

[gloomy pumice]

IF ur gonna do the TRUE completion it is

[hearty monolith]

they called stags

[sly tartan]

i agree

[dull leaf]

I've played elden ring early game elden is so much harder

but pantheon 5 and path of pain solos

[ivory storm]

@dark tiger

[gloomy pumice]

hk is only hard if ur gonna TRUE completion aka p5 ab and hitless

[wary hound]

fair enough the difficulty in godhome TREMENDOUSLy increases compared to everything else

[gloomy pumice]

it aint allat tho except SOME bosses

[sly tartan]

the places u dumdum

[gloomy pumice]

like 3 -5

[sly tartan]

the way they go

[wanton rain]

Deepnest is like straight from a horror movie

[sly tartan]

stagways

i think

[hearty monolith]

stagways

[dull leaf]

ngl I just killed the 2nd hornet the game is ez

[gloomy pumice]

sure sure

[sly tartan]

fr 2nd hornet overrated

[hearty monolith]

3rd hornet

[sly tartan]

?? i beat her 2nd gry

try

[dull leaf]

I haven't faced a hard boss till now

[wary hound]

pantehons are hard no matter wat , bindings hall of gods radiant , p5, r5 ,p5ab, r5ab THE LIST IS ENDLESS

[sly tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-baby-ai-baby-son-baby-folk-baby-grey-baby-gif-15943507299465912068

[gloomy pumice]

btw u should visit the royal waterways and explore the down side u will find something

[hearty monolith]

give hornet voltvessel and binding

[dull leaf]

I did

[gloomy pumice]

have u done dream bosses

[dull leaf]

the defender and that mom

[sly tartan]

hey guys

[gloomy pumice]

down LEFT side

[gloomy pumice]

what

[sly tartan]

its new years tommorow

[dull leaf]

I don't have the dream nail

but killed the 6 sonics

[gloomy pumice]

for some ppl in some hours

[dull leaf]

what's supposed to be there?

[gloomy pumice]

woah sonic in hk

[gloomy pumice]

breakable wall to something special

whats sonic

[hearty monolith]

new boss

[sly tartan]

is it dung defender

[gloomy pumice]

no its something godly

[dull leaf]

the 6 guys in city of tears

[sly tartan]

would make a fire charm

[gloomy pumice]

those are normal enemies

[vestal cedar]

Have you killed a giant ass jellyfish

[gloomy pumice]

u need dream nail to beat the game go get it

[sly tartan]

uumuu

[dull leaf]

yes

[sly tartan]

uumuu so ez bro

[vestal cedar]

I think he meant watcher knights

[gloomy pumice]

ahhh

[vestal cedar]

Uuwuu is a cool boss

Kinda

[sly tartan]

very ez boss

[dull leaf]

yes these guys

[wary hound]

uumuu*

[dull leaf]

Royal water way's I killed 2 bosses

[vestal cedar]