hk-discussion

[crisp willow]

Its their 19382838th time playing PoP

[fiery trench]

never once down dashed
did jump into thorns twice tho

[limpid matrix]

why would you need dashmaster in pop tho

[crisp willow]

Faster

[fiery trench]

I didn't

it was solely bcuz people say it sucks

[bold spear]

I hate grubfather he only good for geos

[fiery trench]

this PoP run is nothing but "haha, did it with the stuff people say not to run"

[limpid matrix]

in what section do u need the faster dash cd in pop

[crisp willow]

Its like 5% faster /ns

[crisp willow]

Brother just let us have fun

[bold spear]

Nephew just let us have fun

[fiery trench]

did I need it? no. did I have it anyways? yes, and I'll never regret it

[crisp willow]

You are awesome

[hidden spire]

Twin hiveblood combined with grubsong is already enough for the whole PoP

[wary hound]

fr

[fiery trench]

also Weaverlings aren't actually that big of an issue, just don't stall above enemies

[crisp willow]

You can beat pop charmless- jts more fun eith charms tho

[craggy kestrel]

Give all to the king and start a no cost too great chain

No cost too great

[hidden spire]

Would be pain tho

[fiery trench]

no mind to think

[bold spear]

Amma go sle- 😴💤💤

[keen thorn]

Downdashing in current patch by accident is hard

[fiery trench]

night cro

[craggy kestrel]

No voice to cry suffering

[fiery trench]

how one down dashes on pc is beyond me

[fiery trench]

born of God and Void

[limpid matrix]

whats in cp that makes its hard to accidentally dash down

[keen thorn]

Down dash needs 3 things
Dash input
Down input
No left or right input

[uneven ermine]

whats in what?

[gentle pilot]

uhhhhhh....

[sick prism]

the part when you need to get to the path of pain

[limpid matrix]

current patch

[sick prism]

time is money

[gentle pilot]

😬

[keen thorn]

LP plsase 😭
And it's the fact you can't downdash while moving horizontally

[limpid matrix]

oh

[keen thorn]

You need to be standing still

[crisp willow]

Why did i expect a- a bad thing to happen

[uneven ermine]

what?

[crisp willow]

I thought they were going to hurt their hand

[limpid matrix]

prob the bunni throwin the knife at the camera after the carrots all chopped

[crisp willow]

Sleepy thoughts are not sane

[keen thorn]

Even sharp shadow is fine in PoP if you're used to it being weird

[gentle pilot]

who go kz

[keen thorn]

What you should absolutely not bring is any minion charm

Or Joni's blessing

[uneven ermine]

who go outlast trials

[limpid matrix]

dream shield

[keen thorn]

Half a minion

[gentle pilot]

me me me me me me me me me me me me me me!!!

[limpid matrix]

dream wielder

[hidden spire]

Joni's blessing is good for radiant tho

[crisp willow]

I belive dream shield is like the line between "do not use this charm" and "not meta"

[keen thorn]

That one's insignificant in pop

[crisp willow]

Fury is better.

[keen thorn]

Dreamshield is the most net 0 charm you can have

[limpid matrix]

u cant get to 1 hp since u get oneshotted at full hp by everything

[crisp willow]

Exaclty, it has no negstives, no major possitives

[crisp willow]

I have no idea what you just said

[limpid matrix]

ur on radiant

[keen thorn]

F5 vs R5 be like

[limpid matrix]

u get one shotted by everthing on full hp

fury needs to be at 1hp

[hidden spire]

That's the joke 😭

[crisp willow]

And how on earth will you get down yo 1 hp genius?

[wary hound]

u donty

[crisp willow]

NO SHIT SHERLOCJ

[uneven ermine]

only for genius

[wary hound]

mod

[crisp willow]

Im gonna flip

[foggy sable]

wait I know this one

[crisp willow]

We ball

[gentle pilot]

steady body and quick focus is what i use

[uneven ermine]

niche

[keen thorn]

Wait no I lied, it's crest.
But crest is 1 notch, dreamshield is 3

[shrewd nymph]

didnt you say theyre about the same difficulty

[crisp willow]

Quock slash u mean

[hidden spire]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-smart-so-many-genius-this-server-has-so-many-geniuses-gif-17960640212511392691

[foggy sable]

yes

[keen thorn]

P5AB = F5 = R5

[wary hound]

im gonna do absrad give me one nerf ( not limited to bindings i have debug mod on )

[uneven ermine]

were niche bluds

[foggy sable]

my opinions were weird back then

[crisp willow]

Crest is better tho- irs more on the possitive side than the negative

Dream shield i like the middle point yk?

[shrewd nymph]

a giant cant tell the difference between an fly and a mosquito

[spring turret]

umm guys

[foggy sable]

one bites a lot

[wary hound]

yeh?

[shrewd nymph]

pi = 3 = e

[wary hound]

100h

[uneven ermine]

umm goys 😨

[wary hound]

umm giys

[crisp willow]

Try to stay alive by pogoing her spike ground phase

[keen thorn]

Crest does like 3 dps, dreamshield does about 5

[foggy sable]

I haven't used fury in so long though

[worn hamlet]

shots fired engineers roasted

[wary hound]

😭

[crisp willow]

No, dreamshield does your nail damage, 1x

[wary hound]

I hate u am i atlest allowedto pogo the radiance?

[shrewd nymph]

everytime i use it im shocked at the dps. each hit doing more than a default greatslash is foul

[crisp willow]

Oh dps?

[gentle pilot]

i like engi

cool survivor

[crisp willow]

Yes

[worn hamlet]

?

[keen thorn]

At pure nail lol

[foggy sable]

no shaman is so tragic...

[wary hound]

thank god

[worn hamlet]

who's engi?

[uneven ermine]

fella dont know 😂

[gentle pilot]

niche

[crisp willow]

At every nail, no?

[worn hamlet]

I rly don't ._.

[limpid matrix]

nerf primal aspids or update that one archway, Team cherry:

[worn hamlet]

dang

[shrewd nymph]

i mean you coulddd run it over mop

[uneven ermine]

ror2 is niche

[wary hound]

u mean phase 2 like after u haev dealt 400ish damage right

[gentle pilot]

hes cabbit

[fiery trench]

Last thing for a while cuz I gotta prep for godhome and do grimm stuff
How it feels to get RadHog

[keen thorn]

It does about 5 dps at pure nail

[foggy sable]

you'll have to pry MoP from my cold dead hands

[quasi forge]

Damage per second not hit

[shrewd nymph]

ab player btw

[crisp willow]

Nobobobobo i mean when se makes the ground spiky- you are forced to pogo it if she does thag attack

[gentle pilot]

where is this?

[foggy sable]

I would never

[wary hound]

thats not an attack

[fiery trench]

white palace

[wary hound]

but yeh i think i understand

[crisp willow]

Just realised- wtf is that profile

[limpid matrix]

black town

[crisp willow]

I dunno what to call it

[quasi forge]

?

[crisp willow]

Whatcha cookin

[gentle pilot]

straight dogshit

[uneven ermine]

nothing im hungry

[uneven ermine]

not cool

[gentle pilot]

learn to cook.

[limpid matrix]

but is stinky tho

[crisp willow]

There is gay dogshit?

[uneven ermine]

goy dogshit

[worn hamlet]

omni dogshit?

[gentle pilot]

complete dogshit* ☺️

[worn hamlet]

fuck you.

[limpid matrix]

ban erad for harassment-

[uneven ermine]

omni keycard reference

[wary hound]

i lowk hate u man

[uneven ermine]

niche

[crisp willow]

So is ogrim, yet we love it

[keen thorn]

Also I misremembered my numbers
It's 4 dps from crest vs 7 from dreamshield

[crisp willow]

oh..

[worn hamlet]

unless ur not aware of the slur that u just said

[gentle pilot]

critically niche

[wary hound]

i dont mean it

[foggy sable]

7 dps from 3 notches

[gentle pilot]

knock it off.

[foggy sable]

worth running

[wary hound]

hey U KNOCK IT OFF i meant it jokingly

[crisp willow]

I have been nerded out, fuh

[uneven ermine]

what is ur problem

[crisp willow]

Now im gonna go and read the whole charm wiki byeee

[gentle pilot]

😠

[wary hound]

???

[shrewd nymph]

so just a better sshadow

[crisp willow]

Chill

He was teasing

[fiery trench]

Good advice for people:
Do not to birthplace overcharmed

[serene galleon]

gyys i jst started hk i have no idea what im doing just exploirn gthe map

[uneven ermine]

Do not to birthplace overcharmed

[gentle pilot]

hi batman

[keen thorn]

If you want deep details about any charm I'm better than the wiki

[gentle pilot]

niche

batman is niche

[foggy sable]

when you think about it MoP adds 0 dps so dream shield is better

[uneven ermine]

continue doing this

[keen thorn]

The wiki doesn't have the applied values on actual high skill gameplay

Only covers basic stats and casual use

[fiery trench]

My English can be terrible at times but it gets the point across ok

[shrewd nymph]

not sure how i feel about mop adding 0 dps

[serene galleon]

hi

[uneven ermine]

do not the birthplace

[foggy sable]

name one dps increase, just don't be far away

[shrewd nymph]

[foggy sable]

the new just walk forward

[crisp willow]

I doubt that, also i can just test it out my self yk?

How do you think i wrote a 80ish pages of h.k funfacts, lore details, and theories.

By testing them my self, and looking through the map of Hallownest

[wary hound]

did absrad

[gentle pilot]

😅 hiiii

[wary hound]

with nerf

[azure terrace]

Can my dreamshield just block hits

[crisp willow]

But i still thank you

[gentle pilot]

thats tuff

[shrewd nymph]

i just ask genio and label it as my own, works a charm

[keen thorn]

SB Quickslash MoP can fully attack dung and white defender throwing balls

[uneven ermine]

it does damage button --->

[crisp willow]

lol

[keen thorn]

No waiting needed

[gentle pilot]

i love sb quickslash

[keen thorn]

[uneven ermine]

😂

[foggy sable]

can't you do that anyway with basically turnarounds to skim the range of the projectile throw?

[wary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/the-radiance-hollow-knight-pale-king-watch-your-tone-watch-your-tone-mf-gif-25105189

i found this

[gentle pilot]

spoilers

[uneven ermine]

niche gif

[crisp willow]

Who wants to do extra work, pal?

[gentle pilot]

join kz_niche

[foggy sable]

think about the 7 dps

[keen thorn]

I was half joking.
But here, people like me and grey that take this game to the extreme, know exactly how charms work and what they are for. Experience is a lot when it comes to this.
Like SB is not a charm you can measure at all lol

[uneven ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-13074825429999900101

is this niche

[crisp willow]

Lmao

[keen thorn]

But SB is undeniably broken

[cinder jackal]

you can do this without turnarounds even pretty sure

[fiery trench]

Apologies ma’am, I was unaware that you were requiring the topmost literacy abilities in this channel. I wish to correct my prior mistake
Do not enter and go through the section of the Abyss known as the Birthplace whilst overcharmed, for the enemy known formally as Siblings will in fact take 4 masks per hit, and it is an experience I do not wish upon those not as insane as I am

[foggy sable]

maybe but I don't play without MoP and with qs so I don't know

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gun-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-eyebrowns-gif-18404585

[wary hound]

YEHHHH

[worn hamlet]

lmao

[crisp willow]

Techically i can measure SB just fine against all of the 40ish bosses by memorizing the distance control of em!!!!!!!!!

But again, thank you for the offer. I respect that.

[keen thorn]

Idk if you can attack off qs cooldown lol
Probably

[shrewd nymph]

ive done it while spamming m1 so yeah you can

[gentle pilot]

☺️

[limpid matrix]

shoulda brought a minigun with a shaman shone charm piicture attached to it

[gentle pilot]

hi lune

[foggy sable]

I cannot advocate against MoP any longer it makes me sad to

[keen thorn]

Lol

[crisp willow]

I dun like mop LN strenght annnnd shaman.

Am i boring?

Nah

The net dps charms are boring

Qslash doesnt count cuz it chsnges your gameplay greatly

[foggy sable]

the thing about SB is that it is so dependent on qs to have a measurable effect

[crisp willow]

But strenght and shaman dont

[keen thorn]

Yeah this is true

[keen thorn]

During godhome ow bingy SB helped me quite a bit without Quickslash

[crisp willow]

They are meant-to-bw lovers.

[gentle pilot]

true

[keen thorn]

It made me appreciate it a bit more

If quicksash didn't exist it wouldn't be S tier tho

[foggy sable]

but without qs you can get full dps no sbody

[gentle pilot]

quick focus in uumuu made me appreciate that charm as well (i love it)

[crisp willow]

Uumuu is fun

[foggy sable]

I wouldn't run either qs or sbody on their own anyway

[keen thorn]

SB is not all about the DPS you should know this

[uneven ermine]

speaking_head has a 6 minute dsc

[gentle pilot]

i know that guy

[crisp willow]

Dcs?

[uneven ermine]

dsc

[foggy sable]

I don't like sbody on its own

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/atraks-destiny-2-taniks-tippy-tap-gif-17927272152759827562

[foggy sable]

I walk into enemies expecting the knockback

[crisp willow]

The charm nerds aee arguing!!!!

/unsrs

[keen thorn]

Chronic skil issue

[uneven ermine]

gyatt!!!!!

[foggy sable]

... you aren't wrong but

[gentle pilot]

you have "gyat" to kill bottom ads 🤣

niche

[uneven ermine]

security u listening to me 👀 gimme some comms 📻 u smart fella 😁

[gentle pilot]

niche

[crisp willow]

Imma dip

[foggy sable]

too much charmless conditioned me to play no qs with no sbody

[crisp willow]

Goodnight chart

[gentle pilot]

gn

[fiery trench]

night cro

[keen thorn]

even without quickslash sb allows a lot more aggression during more attacks without having to rely on spells and narts which are the core of AB

But at that moment I did not have narts or good spells lol

[worn hamlet]

omg im consistently getting to phase 2 of corrupted kin

only a matter of time till completion

[keen thorn]

[gentle pilot]

true

sb is a lifesaver for me

[limpid matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278713051541143637/1455066900823408811/attachment.gif

[keen thorn]

Still as I said, SB would not be S tier without Quickslash

But still pretty solid

[uneven ermine]

speed laugh

[fiery trench]

cmon cro. If I can do PoP with Weaverlings u can beat Corrupted Kin
-# I know these have no relation but be fr who cares

[keen thorn]

It'd maybe be dethroned by NMG tho

Wait no it'd defo be dethroned

[worn hamlet]

lmao yeee

[keen thorn]

No qs makes NMG op

[foggy sable]

I rate sbody C tier with no qs

sadly

[autumn ice]

honestly i would claim that it's reasonable to have s tier be only str qs shaman anyways

[uneven ermine]

because that is the objective s tier charms ya

[gentle pilot]

hiveblood:

[uneven ermine]

harvblud

[keen thorn]

It really depends on your parameters because flukenest and fury outmatch strength and shaman

[limpid matrix]

sb with mark of purity with strenght and abyssal bloom with fury at 1 hp

[keen thorn]

And SB is way closer to S tier than the next which would probably be MoP

[limpid matrix]

would end the universe

[autumn ice]

if fury is in a high tier in a tier list it's going to be pretty damn specific

flukenest is like maybe reasonable though

[fiery trench]

wrong MoP cro

[keen thorn]

Flukenest almost rivals quickslash

I think the fairest way would be qs alone in S tier

[foggy sable]

but consider, I don't like flukes except for galien

[keen thorn]

Lol

[limpid matrix]

mark of purity op

[autumn ice]

eh i feel like qs doesnt gap str or shaman that hard

[fiery trench]

fr tho

[foggy sable]

and most charm lists are just preference anyway

[gentle pilot]

but with sb 👀

[autumn ice]

str is better in ow shaman is better in low gear

[vale condor]

grey really likes actually fighting marmu

[foggy sable]

please no

[limpid matrix]

pair it with sb and strenght with it and you got the destroyer of universes

[foggy sable]

I had moved on but the mere mention of marmu

[keen thorn]

Oh right i just made this

[vale condor]

flukes instakill marmu tho...

[keen thorn]

Yesterday

[foggy sable]

I don't die to marmu with charms is the problem

[autumn ice]

lowkey shaman that unskilled feels wrong

[fiery trench]

I saw the unedited version, and can I say, too real of a typo

[autumn ice]

plenty of mediocre players just dont know spell punish windows

[keen thorn]

It's plain dps, the only change is that spells are not as easy as pure nail

[shrewd nymph]

how can something like heart not be unskilled? its completely passive

[keen thorn]

To get value you kinda have to actually use the fact you have 11 masks

[foggy sable]

compass should be unskilled no?

you put it on and it just does all its things

[autumn ice]

sounds like something bad players need lol

[keen thorn]

I just put compass in the middle

Lol

[fiery trench]

honeslty heart is the type of charm where being skillfull eliminates its use and being bad makes it useless

[keen thorn]

Because it looks cool

[autumn ice]

but idk tierlists be kinda jank

[gentle pilot]

compass is the highest skill

cbharm

[keen thorn]

Eh probably

[tall marten]

So... for the last dreamer... these watchers? Very annoying

[autumn ice]

anyways genio im getting cooked

[shrewd nymph]

true but its just the fact you cant do anything with it since its a passive, people only use it as a precaution

[autumn ice]

the lining up 3 different move things is actually impossible istg

[fiery trench]

absolutely. Good thing you can prekill one of them

[autumn ice]

just a 1/3 to die

[tall marten]

You can?

[keen thorn]

Yeah I think heart should go on about the height of eater

[autumn ice]

maybe not quite but it's bad

[keen thorn]

Most charms I put on rather quick since there are a lot

[keen thorn]

Lol

[twin raven]

Btw when I made this it started from a square

[serene galleon]

guys i just saved a mole

idk

[tall marten]

Uumuu isn't that bad

[fiery trench]

to the left of the arena, like right before it, theres a part of that roof u can break. It leads to a rope that connects to a chandelier, and cutting it will drop it on one of them

[vale condor]

All charms should be in unskilled cause charms are a crutch and people should just be better at the game

👍

[keen thorn]

True. Just play AB

[worn hamlet]

hence why ab exists

[keen thorn]

Actually just play 04

[worn hamlet]

same wavelength lol

[keen thorn]

Upgrades are unskilled

[vale condor]

play itemless

[foggy sable]

I was going to say that

[worn hamlet]

but then u can't do peakrad

[tall marten]

Ddark?

[keen thorn]

But you can't reach godhome

[vale condor]

good

[worn hamlet]

godseeker file

[keen thorn]

Lol

[limpid matrix]

imagine abyssal nail but needs darkryte and the shade liquid from shade cloak

[keen thorn]

Alright I'm gonna sleep

I've been here way too long

[tall marten]

Small question, what is that?

[keen thorn]

[fiery trench]

night cro

[keen thorn]

Wait wait wait

For tomorrow

Alignment chart

[tall marten]

No

[keen thorn]

How good charms are and how good they'd be if Quickslash wasn't a thing

[limpid matrix]

shaman would be praised by nail users

[tall marten]

What does that upgrade do?

[foggy sable]

just imagine I make an sbody joke here

because I can't think of one

[fiery trench]

damage buff and more iframes

[frozen crater]

||radiant markoth|| pissing me off bad so im moving onto ||galien|| because hes a street tier

[autumn ice]

radiant galien is not a street tier im ngl

[fiery trench]

not wrong but damn shots fired

[autumn ice]

he's free until he just decides to murder you for fun

[frozen crater]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-izuku-midoriya-boku-no-hero-academia-angry-sad-gif-5928195 FEED ME MORE STREET TIERS!!!!! ||ELDER HUUUUUU!!!||

[limpid matrix]

if someone does daily radiant markoth they will be given the most masochist hk player ever

[shrewd nymph]

theres alot worse

[limpid matrix]

abs rad rad is street tier ngl

[fiery trench]

I doubt that beats PoP with 50 unkillable Primal Aspids
or AnyRad

[foggy sable]

radkoth isn't even that hard compared to a lot of daily/weekly challenges people do

[frozen crater]

i fucking hate how every dream boss has the most random movement method ever they literally just choose a random direction sometimes and move at some random speed

and then theres marmu.

[shrewd nymph]

ew galien reference

[limpid matrix]

camp in the corner

[frozen crater]

no literally every one of them does that

[foggy sable]

@shrewd nymph I feel as though there is a disconnect between what seems difficult and what is

[limpid matrix]

500, rad, markoth, at, once.

[frozen crater]

galien and markoth are the worst offenders but they all do it except for like xero

[shrewd nymph]

why else do you think i did nightmare and void

[frozen crater]

xero just moves left to right

[foggy sable]

fair enough

anyway marmu is the most random movement hk boss

[shrewd nymph]

btw nkg you cant get 6 cyclone hits, its not even 5 i dont think

[frozen crater]

marmu is a bottom 5 boss ngl

[foggy sable]

2nd worst

[limpid matrix]

gpz

[shrewd nymph]

but im checking if for uppercut, dash slash m1 or dash slash shriek is better

[fiery trench]

the number of times I’ve lost P3AB runs bcuz Galien decided to move his self proclaimed dumpy into me
I swear I want that man impaled and left to die. Again.

[frozen crater]

oblobbles?

[foggy sable]

not that bad

[shrewd nymph]

galien

[foggy sable]

s tier boss

[frozen crater]

2 shit takes above me

[limpid matrix]

why not grab his sycthe after it stops moving and just start decapitating him

[foggy sable]

I only have good and correct takes

[autumn ice]

i love r5 victors ragebaiting hkmain by putting nkg sob pv in low fun tiers

[fiery trench]

to quick of a death
crucifixion would work tho

[frozen crater]

oblobbles dont deserve a spot above b tier

[foggy sable]

they do

[foggy sable]

my favourite past time

[shrewd nymph]

most dont put pv low tbf

[limpid matrix]

excuse what

[foggy sable]

what?

[pliant bough]

theyre right

[limpid matrix]

why is mawlek at a and sisters of battles at the bottom

[frozen crater]

they are worse than winged nosk they literally have one move

[autumn ice]

i mean i have r5 i know

[foggy sable]

because sisters is bad and mawlek is fun

[fiery trench]

the truama skill boosting hits hard ig

[foggy sable]

they play enjoyably

[limpid matrix]

HOW is mawlek fun-

[frozen crater]

oh my god why am i struggling with galien

[autumn ice]

it's not trauma it's just that once you've seen one nkg you've seen them all

and you spend a lot of time fighting nkg so it just gets stale

[shrewd nymph]

jumping over the melee is nice

[fiery trench]

Honestly, I’m not sure how, but they just are

[foggy sable]

weaving around the melee at the same time as dodging projectiles is nice

[frozen crater]

okay got him

[autumn ice]

sob is pretty decent vibes tho

[frozen crater]

one left.

[shrewd nymph]

dash slash m1 is 2 damage more 🙁
i cant get 2 ticks on shriek

[frozen crater]

this is the WORST take ive EVER seen in any game

[tall marten]

Holy shit, you can use spells on the watchers when they are mid roll?

[foggy sable]

I've done worse takes

[pliant bough]

unnamed should check out my top 50

[limpid matrix]

personally i dont find mawlek fun cause when i try to get to the other side a random blob just goes down outta no where

[fiery trench]

people who say Deepnest is fun and overhated (me)

[limpid matrix]

and whenever i heal it always jumps

[frozen crater]

most armored enemies that are only armored temporarily are only armored against nail strikes usually

[foggy sable]

you can shriek punish the jumps it is great

[shrewd nymph]

for a high level player it sounds about right

[frozen crater]

close second

[frozen crater]

mawlek is basic and has like 2 moves realistically and sisters of battle is a dance idk man

also mawlek is way too fucking easy

[foggy sable]

my plan to be a high level player is to climb a mountain and do my hk from there

[autumn ice]

where

[shrewd nymph]

oh no not the dance

[autumn ice]

like a dance™

[foggy sable]

sisters is such a bugged fight and has too much hp

[shrewd nymph]

wait is that worse than compass s

[limpid matrix]

if u got into hallownest irl what area would you NOT go to even if u got bribed alot

[frozen crater]

oh my god

????

[shrewd nymph]

omg i did it

[serene galleon]

guys i got a map but it doesnt show where i am, any help?

[frozen crater]

radiant markoth just took me less tries than galien im just reverse washed

[shrewd nymph]

shriek punish on nkg uppercut is optimal

[pliant bough]

showcase is in ~1 week

[limpid matrix]

compass

[frozen crater]

i know its such a basic thing to say but it really feels like one because everything is perfect bro

[pliant bough]

maybe 2

[shrewd nymph]

i mean if we ignore the fact they have 3 moves, most hp boss in p5, two pretty notable bugs then i guess perfect is somewhat reasonable

and a pointless phase 1

[frozen crater]

i mean 3 moves yeah but it doesnt feel like 3 moves because everything is counterable but at the same time its all mixed to be somewhat unique

[foggy sable]

@autumn ice I enjoy posting my takes because even for r5 players they tend to be a bit weird

[frozen crater]

though i do think they got updated to have more combinations because i got thrown off by some recently

[autumn ice]

yeah agreed

[frozen crater]

anyway this is my second time doing this and i literally did it in 2 nights so i think im pretty decent at this game now

[foggy sable]

like when I said I thought p5ab was about as difficult as r5

[autumn ice]

i dont think any of them are unreasonable from what i see so far but some of them are out there

[foggy sable]

good times

[autumn ice]

ah now that is garbage

[shrewd nymph]

😭

[shrewd nymph]

gg

[foggy sable]

and also r5 with fury was about the same difficulty

[frozen crater]

still gotta do the bindings for p5 before im truly done

[autumn ice]

okay fury not being that good in r5 is pretty real

[shrewd nymph]

i found fury op in r5 tbh

[limpid matrix]

HALL OF UNEMPLOYMENT

[autumn ice]

it's good of course and that take is exaggerated but i agree in spirit

[shrewd nymph]

true completion is waiting

[shy patio]

Just got spore shroom
May i combo it with defender's crest to become incredible gassy

[foggy sable]

I redid f5 at some point and it took 2 attempts

so I don't think that take was great tbh

none of them were I guess

[autumn ice]

fwiw my only experience with >32 dmg nail was 282 damage nail in r5 so maybe i'm just wrong with vibes

[frozen crater]

oh also i did every boss (ascended as well) with this loadout no changin it

idk if that makes it more impressive or more unemployed

[limpid matrix]

shitting to regain a mask, now shitting to regain a mask and absolutely destroy every weak bugs near

[foggy sable]

markoth takes 13 nail hits...

it is so op

[shrewd nymph]

how tf do you spell animation cancel with great slash

i did it once and i cant replicate it

[autumn ice]

guess the fact that you have to be less picky in markoth with when to go in to phase skip is big

no mop tho i already died

[foggy sable]

left vfk is 4 hits or something

[shrewd nymph]

right not left

[foggy sable]

are you doing it with shaman?

I don't use shaman for it

[autumn ice]

right you could just not shaman

damn

maybe it is free

[foggy sable]

great slash is ranged damage

[foggy sable]

2 attempts...

[autumn ice]

i would do some fury r5 to get a feel for it but that would involve doing fury r5 which i dont wanna do

[foggy sable]

anyway because r5 was very fast it warped my perspectives

[autumn ice]

how fast was it?

[foggy sable]

50 hours

in 5 or 6 weeks

[autumn ice]

holy

[foggy sable]

I took a break to do p5ab and f5 in the middle and they took about 10 or so hours each but I attributed that to r5 practice so thought they were the same difficulty

[autumn ice]

i kinda see it but man idk

r5 is not actually that good at prepping for p5ab surely

[foggy sable]

it didn't help I choked p5ab on absrad so it took way longer than it should have

[autumn ice]

like you dont learn to heal you dont learn to dodge ddark less and shit

[foggy sable]

it could have been 4 attempts

[autumn ice]

okay hang on hang on

you got to absrad in 4 attempts on p5ab

[foggy sable]

yes

[autumn ice]

and thought that that was similar difficulty to r5

i want some of what you're having what the hell man

[foggy sable]

well it took another 11 after that

and ended up taking about a week

and the first day I went back to r5 runs I got an absrad death

so it wasn't that bad of a conclusion to draw

[autumn ice]

it's pretty bad but i kiiinda see it

[shy patio]

Felt incredible funny and spammed 1 notch charms
Lets see how it goes

[foggy sable]

I think collector and zote over inflated p5ab difficulty

[fiery trench]

watch it go terribly

[foggy sable]

and because I didn't practice for any of the runs p5ab wasn't well practiced for

[shy patio]

Im very positive this will be the outcome

[shy patio]

Its for deepnest because there is one of the black egg temple thingies in there

[fiery trench]

oh. thought it was for a boss or smthn
u’ll be fine

[foggy sable]

there was one other factor

[hearty monolith]

its fun exploring deepnest instead of city of tears, even tho u really only get trampass from it

[foggy sable]

I practically wasn't in contact with other hk players so didn't have anyone elses opinions to take into account

[autumn ice]

that sounded like a given yeah

also p5ab has a bigger glow so it must be harder

[tall marten]

How do I upgrade the dive?

[foggy sable]

and also collector killed 50% of my attempts

now I just torment r5 players with that take

[autumn ice]

you need to be less self aware if you want to torment people

[fiery trench]

go to the bench in the dark room, go right, right, and crystal dash right. Go into the shrine and it should be straightforward from there

[foggy sable]

perhaps

[autumn ice]

if you say "i used to think that..." i will probably just make fun of you

or make fun of the take rather

[foggy sable]

it is a pretty good conversation starter

[tall marten]

"The dark room"?

[autumn ice]

if you present it as a genuine belief then people will think you're baiting (works better if people dont know you have r5)

[autumn ice]

worked here, gg

[foggy sable]

good idea

[fiery trench]

the bench in Crystal Peaks where the room is surrounded by darkness

[foggy sable]

I enjoyed r5 a lot more than the first p5ab

which I think is also something not many people say

[autumn ice]

honestly i cannot recall which one i enjoyed more

off vibes i could believe that it was r5 though

[shy patio]

What if i go deeper in deepnest
Will i get to deeperdeepnest

[foggy sable]

enjoyment usually correlates to clear time though so

because it is a boring run if you get unlucky

[fiery trench]

no, just more deepnest

[shy patio]

I realized now that im literally trapped

[autumn ice]

kinda? i have an ongoing (on hiatus) celeste grind on 500+h which is quite fun

[tall marten]

So i met this gravedigger dude?

[hearty monolith]

distant nest

[tranquil mountain]

p5ab feels worse to play actively, but i feel like most people have better experiences with it long term

[autumn ice]

getting unlucky will generally make enjoyment go down tho

[fiery trench]

ghost?

[foggy sable]

a 500 hour grind sounds miserable

[shy patio]

WHY IS THERE ANOTHER ME

[tall marten]

Ghost-like, yeah

[autumn ice]

i mean just has to be something you like

[tranquil mountain]

500 hours is kinda insane, what are you playing?

[autumn ice]

wountain fcg

[foggy sable]

oh nice

[tranquil mountain]

oh shit

[fiery trench]

oh, Gravedigger. He chill

[tranquil mountain]

youre goated

[foggy sable]

I remember when that was first done

crazy goals

[autumn ice]

have a 1 death and a decay distance (like 60% of the way through, past the hardest checkpoint)

[pliant bough]

mcow

get ready

[autumn ice]

havent really played for a few months though because it does burn you out eventually

[tranquil mountain]

unnamed is best player in world

[tranquil mountain]

what⁉️

[autumn ice]

do plan on getting back to it probably once i do the skong nohits i want to get

[tranquil mountain]

im not ready

which nohits?

[fiery trench]

LeonHK wants a word /j

[pliant bough]

larrys level (layout) showcases in 1-2 weeks!

[autumn ice]

r4

[tranquil mountain]

facts

[tranquil mountain]

oh wonderful, i have plenty of time to prepare then

its solo layout by you right?

[shrewd nymph]

has anyone done it yet? i know a few who are close but not 0 hit

[pliant bough]

and then deco...

[autumn ice]

lowkey i dont know people who are doing it lmao

[shrewd nymph]

ashtinpeaks is

[autumn ice]

cant find any victors at least

[tranquil mountain]

deco is like…time consuming

[fiery trench]

alr, should I beat NKG with smg damage only, normally, or banish the grimm troupe

[tranquil mountain]

what is r4?

[shrewd nymph]

but he hasnt beaten it yet i dont think

[shrewd nymph]

r5 in sk

[pliant bough]

yes but its just 48sec level

[tranquil mountain]

oh

[autumn ice]

could maybe call it rs4 for less ambiguity

[tranquil mountain]

r4 is a bad name lol

[pliant bough]

radiant pantheon 4

[tranquil mountain]

evidently this technically true

[autumn ice]

guess i should talk to them, strat sharing probably op

[shrewd nymph]

@molten forge

[tranquil mountain]

how far are you into it?

[molten forge]

hmmm

[autumn ice]

have rs3, have 66% distance on rs2

[shrewd nymph]

he's doing r4 in sk

[tranquil mountain]

rs2 harder than rs3 yeah?

or similar difficulty?

[molten forge]

talking about no hit symphony of silk and soul

[autumn ice]

eh feels pretty similar honestly

[molten forge]

rs2 harder rs3 imo

pretty close though

[tranquil mountain]

nhsosas :0

[fiery trench]

Alr guys grimm troupe banish or smg down

[autumn ice]

not done with rs2 tho so cant fully comment

[molten forge]

how far have you got on rs4?

im at 2 hits atm

[shrewd nymph]

we are NOT abbreviating it to that 😭

[autumn ice]

segment 3 of rs2 feels giga choke heavy

[autumn ice]

holy

[tranquil mountain]

yeah we are it has a nice ring to it

[molten forge]

Defintely

[frank estuary]

Whats smg?

[autumn ice]

i'm still on doing the individual ones

havent really done full runs yet

[molten forge]

Father of the flame is so much harder than i thought to do consistently imo

[fiery trench]

… an smg
like the gun

[molten forge]

oh nice, good luck! glad to see someone else running it

[autumn ice]

yeah kind of annoying

sinner is fucking owning me rn lmao

[shrewd nymph]

any known clears yet?

[autumn ice]

same here yeah

nice to have ppl to grind with

[frank estuary]

Ah you meant the gun, then i dont understand your question

[autumn ice]

rs3 reset hell is miserable when i have no one to rant to lmao

[molten forge]

not that ik of, but i saw something on billi billi about bosses hitless, but they got a 1 hit with dice for sure, and i think all the bosses werent there?

[tranquil mountain]

are hitless ss pantheons fun?

[molten forge]

its hard to tell i need someone who speaks chinese

[shrewd nymph]

are any hitless pantheons fun

[fiery trench]

Should I banish the grimm troupe or beat NKG with only an smg

[autumn ice]

the learning part is fun

[molten forge]

i think they are tbh

[tranquil mountain]

mmm, maybe

[autumn ice]

there's definitely a lot of garbage in there tho

[frank estuary]

Oh def beat nkg more fun

[molten forge]

honestly silksong hitlesss stuff is more fun than r5 atm no vengeflies to start with

[autumn ice]

but i also think there's more interesting bosses than in hk

[shrewd nymph]

tbf i dont like sk bosses so im bias from the beginning

[molten forge]

shakra... shakra.... shakra....

[shrewd nymph]

ok chill i love vfk

[tranquil mountain]

no vengeflies is huge tbh

[molten forge]

so tilt heavy for r5 though, get to pv hitless get hit reset get hit to vfk 20 times

[foggy sable]

no vfk is big enjoyment tech

[shrewd nymph]

vfk top 5 r5 boss and im dying on this hill

[autumn ice]

yeah sharkra feels fine atm but i feel like she can quite easily plateau at 80-90% consistency and then you're just at the mercy of not getting bad patterns

[foggy sable]

bottom 5 easily in r5

[shrewd nymph]

💢

[foggy sable]

I would take no vfk over no marmu in normal r5

[molten forge]

my main problem is when she teleports right above me but not high up, like middle of screen height, i jump into her, more my skill issue but annoying

[autumn ice]

the thing with no vfk is that gruz just replaces it

[autumn ice]

yeah that

and just the super close teleports into throw and the angle kinda sucks

[zealous skiff]

unnamed what loadout are you using

[shrewd nymph]

hi chomp

[autumn ice]

but i think that's pretty fine if i deflect

havent really been doing that yet

[autumn ice]

varies, hunter all the way tho

[zealous skiff]

based

[autumn ice]

my rs3 is on yt

can send link in dms (ash as well if you want)

[molten forge]

intresting im running wanderers funnily enough

[autumn ice]

i run the bell for segment 1 there it's kinda funny

[zealous skiff]

I've been doing no tools because I suck at using tools but I'm thinking about caving

[molten forge]

ill take it as well, im curious to see how its done by others

[zealous skiff]

sure that would be great

[autumn ice]

it actually performs somewhat often in gurr/2bbio

[rugged perch]

Finally..

[zealous skiff]

wait like the heal thing?

[autumn ice]

ya

[fiery trench]

ggs

[zealous skiff]

surely cross stitch

[autumn ice]

how do you run that with crawfather in the segment

[molten forge]

i run sharpdart, so it clears the ads

[zealous skiff]

needle arts + a lot of practice

[frank estuary]

Which achievements are those?

[zealous skiff]

I think warding bell might be better

[autumn ice]

yeah ooor you run the bell and it's chilling

[zealous skiff]

you're a lot more successful than me anyway

[rugged perch]

Less than 30 hours and SteelSoul Mode 100%

[shrewd nymph]

i just realised but maybe no sk spoilers in this channel

[autumn ice]

commence vagueposting

[frank estuary]

Wht? Those are not the icon... or is it sk?

[autumn ice]

fwiw i really havent labbed a lot tho

like my rs3 build is just based off vibes

rs2 i stole some stuff from genio

[zealous skiff]

ah okk

[autumn ice]

anyone have any strats for rs2 final btw

[rugged perch]

its sk

[frank estuary]

Anyways gg

[rugged perch]

Thanks!

[autumn ice]

i'm kinda getting owned by when there's 3 attacks (2 range one melee) layered on top of one another (that's vague enough to be no spoiler surely)

[molten forge]

not sure tbh, still a major hit thing for me as well

[autumn ice]

damn lol

been trying to rad n0 that and so far it's just been hope it doesn't do the thing and when it does, hope it's a good pattern

which is not my favorite strat

i do wonder if there's a way to anticipate that based on teleports or like animation timing or something

that'd be pretty huge

[molten forge]

i feel like you just need to play safe and slow in that fight weirdly enouggh

[autumn ice]

maybe

definitely full aggro just gets you killed

but if you say you can't really dodge when the boss does a specific pattern, why not push dps to kill the boss before it does said pattern

[molten forge]

yea, its weird, at least 2nd phase you can push damage pretty fast imo low health in 2nd

[autumn ice]

yea it's only 600ish vs the 1.5k of phase 1

[molten forge]

i have done 14 full runs, and in 5 of them that boss has claimed a hit, think its one of the most common hits

[autumn ice]

honestly if you told me in my casual playthrough that that boss would be a major rs4 hurdle i would never have believed you

it felt so nkg coded

[molten forge]

same tbh

[rustic zephyr]

White palace is fun but also frustrating 😭.

[serene galleon]

why did chat just die

[hexed nacelle]

fr, the pop ost haunted me bad i could hear it in my sleep

[proven bramble]

chat do not fear, i am here

[tiny valve]

I finally killed White Defender holy shit

[mild sorrel]

is the broken vessel hard

[proven bramble]

yeah that one took me quite a few attempts

congrats

[proven bramble]

if you're patient, not at all

lost kin is a bit annoying (dream variant)

[fiery trench]

Well I beat NKG in less than a minute
I think I've reached max power creep

[mild sorrel]

anyway whats the next boss i have to beat after broken vessel

[proven bramble]

uh you have wings so go explore and collect items

[mild sorrel]

k

[proven bramble]

but you might be able to access queens gardens and fight traitor lord

unless you have isma's tear

[proven bramble]

just search up hollow knight bosses in order, that should give you a good general direction on what to focus

[mild sorrel]

ok

[fiery trench]

And I made the game crash

lesson learned. Be careful with Hollow Point thorns in waterways

[proven bramble]

rip

[fiery trench]

I mean I should’ve seen that coming from a mile away

it killed both Grimms the moment they touched me

To showcase the OP charm set I have found

[worn hamlet]

ey guys what vanilla boss does lost kin compare to in terms of difficulty?

I mean corrupted kin

._.

[proven bramble]

there's broken vessel and the dream variant lost kin

[proven bramble]

why does bro have a gun

[fiery trench]

corrupted kin is a modded boss

[fiery trench]

Hollow Point mod

[proven bramble]

must be fun

[fiery trench]

fun till the game freezes cuz of Thorns

[worn hamlet]

true

[fiery trench]

na for the low cost of 4 charm notches you can delete anything with a large size, including the game!

best part is, it only gets better with strength! (cuz bullets are boosted by strength)

[crisp willow]

Duoloo

Guess

How long i slept

[fiery trench]

1-5 minutes?

[crisp willow]

Close enough

[fiery trench]

I killed NKG by getting hit

[worn hamlet]

sleep more

[crisp willow]

Agony?

[crisp willow]

Cant

[fiery trench]

Hollow Point version but yeah

[crisp willow]

Am developing the insomnia

[worn hamlet]

take sleeping supplements

[worn hamlet]

y

[crisp willow]

Joke

[crisp willow]

I dun really like the fact that after sum time you becone depended on them

[fiery trench]

alr made it to Godhome so I can show what I mean

[crisp willow]

Thats one beautiful bio ya got

[worn hamlet]

valid

[worn hamlet]

:o

thanks? not sure if ur being sarcastic or srs ._.

[crisp willow]

I meant it

I luv the "idc" vibes

[worn hamlet]

oh tanks :DD

oh lol

yea I don't rly mind what ppl think of me

I just like trying to be the best version of myself and that's abt it

[crisp willow]

Awesome amount of self respect

[crisp willow]

[worn hamlet]

sometimes I get a lil arrogant tho, so that's always smth to be careful of

self respect is good, but too much can be bad XD

[subtle glacier]

hkdisc wisdom hours

[crisp willow]

As long as you don't develop megalovania or hyper egomelecism it should be fine

[proven bramble]

that's called ego atp

[worn hamlet]

true true

[worn hamlet]

indeed ego is the same as too much self respect

[crisp willow]

Ego isnt always a bad thing yk

[worn hamlet]

in moderation it's good ye

[fiery trench]

I got HK to crash rofl

[proven bramble]

bad ego is a bad thing

[crisp willow]

In moderetion and under control ego is likely more possitive than negative

[fiery trench]

I was trying to show the power of thorns but a crash works just as well

[worn hamlet]

bad ego is just having too much ego imo

[proven bramble]

bad ego is just being egoistic

[worn hamlet]

agreed, bc that's what ppl tend to call self respect/esteem

[crisp willow]

Narcism ≠ Ego

[worn hamlet]

true, but narcisism is a whole other can of worms

[proven bramble]

it's close enough

[worn hamlet]

not at all

[crisp willow]

It is fairly commonly mis compared

[worn hamlet]

narcisism, or npd, is a literal mental disorder

[crisp willow]

Such as example here

[worn hamlet]

mental disorders can be worked with, or they can completely ruin ppl

or they can just debilitate ppl

that's a whole different beast from just being a lil overconfident

[fiery trench]

its really not

[crisp willow]

Adhd is considered mental too- but again it aint something 100% bad

[worn hamlet]

yes, and the same could be said abt npd

[crisp willow]

A met true narcisist before- they really are on a whole diffrent mind

[worn hamlet]

having a good self respect and making it so you don't allow it to consume you can be a very good thing

[worn hamlet]

well there's different magnitudes of the mental disorder

u can't overgeneralize

[fiery trench]

This happened lmao

[viral schooner]

ADHD haver here. It sucks

[crisp willow]

Arogan egoism and republical egoism are diffrent

[viral schooner]

Idk what the topic is but hi

[worn hamlet]

we're not talking politics or egotism though, we're talking about narcissism ._.

[crisp willow]

I have AuDHD, its not entirely bad. I have a ton of energy most of the time and I am capable of reading and memorise them

[worn hamlet]

oh same :D

[boreal isle]

What even happened 😭

[fiery trench]

game crashed due to damage overload

[worn hamlet]

burnout happens really quick and is absolutely horrible during school tho

[boreal isle]

Lmao

[viral schooner]

I feel genuinely disabled (no shit lol). I wish I could peel it off my brain like a bad scab

[marsh torrent]

who am i missing besides pv and absrad

[viral schooner]

It’s so debilitating

[boreal isle]

Soul tyrant

[trim schooner]

2 p5 exclusive and soul tyrant

[foggy sable]

other p5 exclusive bosses

[marsh torrent]

okay

[worn hamlet]

damn

[marsh torrent]

i should not have fought gpz man you guys were right

i still cant do p3

[viral schooner]

C’est La vie ig

[subtle glacier]

grey

[worn hamlet]

XDD

[trim schooner]

lol

[foggy sable]

choom

[subtle glacier]

how do

[crisp willow]

True- but i think you mis understood my messeage

Arogant egoistisism is that "me me me" type of mind set i wanted to point the diffrent between casual ego, wich we all have, and extended aka unhealthy ego

[worn hamlet]

true

[boreal isle]

That’s gonna come back worse if you do p5

[foggy sable]

I do good, no hk is good for me rn

how choom

[marsh torrent]

if i find the option i might just like edit my save to not have fought him

[subtle glacier]

good 👍
got satisfying speedrun pb yesterday
i think hitless 3L is next for me, or dark souls

[crisp willow]

I dun think thats a thing

Even in pc

[boreal isle]

U can’t sadly

[foggy sable]

what time?

[marsh torrent]

theres literally a save editor website

https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/

it just decrypts the save and lets you edit the json

[crisp willow]

That corrupts the file like 70% of the time

[finite ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MREkS0YkL9M

[subtle glacier]

39m25s :D

[finite ember]

yay!

[marsh torrent]

it never did for me

[foggy sable]

wow gg

[boreal isle]

It’s rlly risky to try

[finite ember]

mileena

[marsh torrent]

i did it a lot

[subtle glacier]

my first sub 40
i think i never go back to any%

[proven bramble]

chaaaaaaaaat

[foggy sable]

do you plan on doing set seed bingy hitless?

[marsh torrent]

if you copy the file before editing its fine

[subtle glacier]

not set seed

[proven bramble]

why did hornet not come pin hk down

[foggy sable]

good

[crisp willow]

Ye then ur save

[worn hamlet]

I do understand that, but I think that you're overgeneralizing the concept of narcissism
An example of something similar that people tend to do is think that all autistic people are entirely unable to socialize in a productive fashion
However, while there are many autistic people who fit that stereotype to some degree, there are also many who do not fit that at all

[boreal isle]

How do you do bingo?

[trim schooner]

youre missing a charm

[proven bramble]

how do i make it black

i just got kingsoul

[trim schooner]

explore the abyss

[foggy sable]

you start a new save and get a bingy board and do goals

[proven bramble]

but it's not black

[boreal isle]

Go to the abyss

[proven bramble]

and the thingy in the birthplace didnt do anything

i sat in the fountain

[crisp willow]

Maybe its cuz im kind of not focused on the convo rn, i apologise. I dislike generlizing as much as you probably :3

[boreal isle]

I’ve got the bingo board mods and stuff but when I try to do one the board is blank

[foggy sable]

bingy is very enjoyable

[boreal isle]

Not the birthplace

[crisp willow]

~~Dreamnail~~

[subtle glacier]

you generate a board on bingosync.com

[worn hamlet]

fairr, and ye honestly les just let it drop since it isn't super pertinent to the topic at hand lol

[foggy sable]

choom knows more about bingy

[boreal isle]

Alr ty

[crisp willow]

<3

[proven bramble]

i sat in the fountain and dreamnailed the statue, the text popped up and nothing else happened

[subtle glacier]

and then interface with it using the bingosync mod on lumafly

[worn hamlet]

:D

[boreal isle]

Ur at the wrong place

[crisp willow]

Thays not thr birthplace thats lighthouse

[boreal isle]

Birthplace is in the abyss main room on the left

[proven bramble]

then where??

[crisp willow]

Birthplace is outside shriek room, you need king's soil to unlock it

[proven bramble]

oh shit there's a room below the floor

i forgot

[crisp willow]

lol

[mild sorrel]

what is like litterly the most annoying boss in hollow knight

[boreal isle]

XD

[proven bramble]

thanks chat

[crisp willow]

Markoth

[boreal isle]

Zote.

[mild sorrel]

bruh

[boreal isle]

Np!

[crisp willow]

That too- solely cuz of the way he doesnt tske you seriously when fighting lol

[mild sorrel]

for me it has to be the soul tyrant

[boreal isle]

Maybe floorless markoth

[foggy sable]

galien

[mild sorrel]

k bye

[crisp willow]

Radkoth is... dies of death

[boreal isle]

I fckn hate when he just runs forwards immediately after spawning stuff

[worn hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/e22-macaron-macarons-macaroon-macaroons-gif-19095594

[marsh torrent]

theres a canBackDash option

[trim schooner]

markoth or marmu

[marsh torrent]

i gotta try

[boreal isle]

I first tried it yesterday XD

[crisp willow]

Well done tbh

[worn hamlet]

[insert abskoth here] (I haven't tried yet)

[boreal isle]

Backdashing was a removed feature, from what I know it doesn’t work very well

[proven bramble]

massive moss charger, still havent fought that beast

[crisp willow]

chay- i kinda enjoy the uumuu fight in hall of gods moee than the one in hallownest

Thoughts?

[marsh torrent]

yeah ik

[foggy sable]

overoworld uumuu is boring

godhome uumuu is interesting

[boreal isle]

I third tried the absrad radiant 😭 XD

[crisp willow]

Hell naw get a life /unsrs

[proven bramble]

actually no eyes is hella annoying

took me more tries than grim

[crisp willow]

Boring"

[marsh torrent]

theres an option literally named zote

[boreal isle]

I first tried no eyes

[proven bramble]

lucky guy

[crisp willow]

"Zote"

[crisp willow]

I first tried NKG

[boreal isle]

Try it and see what happens, I’ve not messed with this kinda stuff on my save

[boreal isle]

Noice

[crisp willow]

No fucking bodu belives me man fuhhh

[marsh torrent]

which of these is gpz though

[worn hamlet]

did u play hard games before

[crisp willow]

Zotedead true?

[marsh torrent]

thats probably neglect

[worn hamlet]

possibly sekiro?

[proven bramble]

honestly nkg doesnt seem too hard if you just fight grim a few times

[marsh torrent]

theres also this

[boreal isle]

Seeing as I first tried a lot of radiants I believe u

[worn hamlet]

oh she was talking abt radiant?

[proven bramble]

only actual boss i think is hard is abs rad, besides maybe a few p5 bosses

[crisp willow]

I have finished cuphead, 300%, 9 times

Have a sub 1 hour pb on any% and a sub 3 hour on 300%

[worn hamlet]

first try radnkg seems pretty fair

[proud trout]

FINALLY RADIANT WATCHER KNIGHTS

[subtle glacier]

for killing zote in overworld
and then number of kills in eternal ordeal

[boreal isle]

Nkg isn’t that difficult after u fight him a couple times

[worn hamlet]

can't say anything abt cuphead bc I haven't played but I've heard that it's hard

so ye that seems pretty fair

[crisp willow]

Nobonono, casual nkg- like in overowlrd

[boreal isle]

Idk I am tho

[marsh torrent]

which option sets whether i've killed gpz

[subtle glacier]

gpz?

[marsh torrent]

grey prince zote

[worn hamlet]

ohh

[subtle glacier]

yeah i know, but i don’t think any of those do that

[worn hamlet]

I mean if ur rly good at games then I can see that

[crisp willow]

Am not trust me-

[worn hamlet]

why're u discrediting ur own case 😭

[crisp willow]

Cold shower time

[crisp willow]

Cuz i know my self, really well