hk-discussion

[wary hound]

its not

[trim schooner]

yes

[wary hound]

how so

[heavy shuttle]

It

Is a dlc

[trim schooner]

yes

[heavy shuttle]

Didn't mean to split that

[wary hound]

tell me HOW exactly wat MAKES it a dlc

[trim schooner]

yes

[heavy shuttle]

It's additional content

[dull barn]

Do you think it was worth the wait?

[wary hound]

idk

[heavy shuttle]

Not required for the game

[wary hound]

well its an update not neccesarily a dlc

[trim schooner]

its a dlc

[lost falcon]

Sea of sorrow is coming in 6th march mark my words

[heavy shuttle]

Also they call it a dlc and TC is always right so

[wary hound]

point me to where they called it a dlc

[heavy shuttle]

1/365 chance you get it right so why not make a shot in the dark right?

[wary hound]

its comming out jan 1st

[wary hound]

im still waiting for u to point me towards it

[vivid creek]

It's called an 'expansion" in the disc of the teaser vid

[wary hound]

YEH

[heavy shuttle]

Okay fair, they don't call SoS a dlc (expansion) but they definitely called the HK ones dlcs

[wary hound]

see

[lost falcon]

Oh wait i forgot this is hk discussion gulp

#hk-general talk about skong there

[wary hound]

show me

[heavy shuttle]

And if that's wrong too then I'm disappointed in the community because I've always wondered why they're called that

[wary hound]

this is more on the topic are the dlcs really dlcs

[heavy shuttle]

The SoS one was easy but that's too much effort sorry

[lost falcon]

It could turn into a silksong discussion later tho

[wary hound]

this is the only mention of dlc in hk chat

[zealous matrix]

GUYS

[wary hound]

we wont

trust me

[trim schooner]

GG

[heavy shuttle]

Trust me I know the rules

[wary hound]

GJ

[heavy shuttle]

I'm basically a minimod

[trim schooner]

proud of you dad

[heavy shuttle]

(Bad thing)

[wary hound]

@heavy shuttle

thats literally just emojis btw

[zealous matrix]

IM FINALLY THE 212 GUy

YEYEYEYYEYYEeE

[vivid creek]

TC seems to have called the HK expansions "content packs"

[wary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/sephiroth-me-me-when-argument-facts-and-logic-gif-19804040

finally got to use this

[trim schooner]

W

[heavy shuttle]

I'm glad you did, I've been looking for a reason to stop calling them dlcs ever since I learned people called them dlcs (not looking very hard, just waiting for it to show up)

And today's the day

[wary hound]

lol ur welcome

[heavy shuttle]

Expansions they are

[trim schooner]

godmaster DLC
lifeblood DLC
grimm troupe DLC
hidden dreams DLC

theyre all dlcs not updates

[wary hound]

we MUST PASS ON THIS KNOWLEDGE

[trim schooner]

same with seas of sorrow

[wary hound]

where does it say this

like

where

COME ON MAN

[trim schooner]

google it

[wary hound]

pls inform me

[trim schooner]

fandom

wiki

theyre called dlc

[lilac ginkgo]

my game lags

[heavy shuttle]

Anything not done by fans?

[wary hound]

if they are dlcs then every update is a dlc

[trim schooner]

no

updates are bug fixes

dlcs add content

[lilac ginkgo]

dlc is "downloadable content"

[wary hound]

define a dlc

[vivid creek]

Could also call them content packs, team cherry calls them content packs in the release announcements

[wary hound]

so is an update

[trim schooner]

no

an update is a bug fix

something minor

no new content

[wary hound]

yeh i did mention that i think they are purposely not using the terms dlc

[lilac ginkgo]

if you download it yourselff its not an update

[trim schooner]

^

yo guys

[wary hound]

if u have steam set to auto update

[trim schooner]

wait nvm

[wary hound]

u dont hsve to do it urself

[subtle phoenix]

bro is not getting saved

[trim schooner]

if you disconnect yourself from the internet

youll have to manually download updates

do you see how your argument falls apart

[wary hound]

🤦‍♂️

can we get someone with a function brain here

[civic temple]

Nice, now only radiant difficulty left

[wary hound]

functioning*

[wary hound]

NICE

[civic temple]

Under 50 hours

[wary hound]

gl

[wary hound]

cool

why do people even say how long

no point

[trim schooner]

youre forcing steam to autodownload dlcs

[civic temple]

Idk, just want to say i guess

[trim schooner]

i can force steam to not download updates

same thing

[wary hound]

yeh but the button is still called UPDATE

[zealous matrix]

i was grinding so hard and i was like "YO THIS MIGHT BE THE FILE THIS MIGHT BE THE FILLEEEEE"

[trim schooner]

its still not an update

[civic temple]

Oh man cant wait to torture myself with radiant light 🙂

[vivid creek]

I think the moral is that you can call them basically whatever you want
Doesn't matter too much, dlc, expansion, content pack

They might've been closer to dlcs when they were initially released but since they come pre-installed they're more like updates or expansions in retrospect

[smoky matrix]

Good luck for hell.

[wary hound]

can u use ACTUAL LOGIC

[trim schooner]

eg?

an update and updating aren't the same thing

if you update your office equipment

[wary hound]

like how are they dlcs

[trim schooner]

the office equipment dont get new code

its just new office equipment

theyre not updates

[trim schooner]

its downloadable content

tc said content pack

and said content is downloadable

therefore dlc

[wary hound]

that is literally every update ever

and game

[trim schooner]

no

[wary hound]

SO BASICALLY ur saying every thing is a dlc

[trim schooner]

updates dont have content

theyre bug fixes

[civic temple]

5 hours with 112%?

[wary hound]

still team cherry dont call it a dlc and also its not actually neccesarily EXTRA Content its LITERALLY part of the game and u download it with THE GAME without makeing any other options

[trim schooner]

it is in fact extra content because they added it after the base game

grimm troupe is considered a dlc

[wary hound]

use a differnt point

[trim schooner]

godseeker too

[wary hound]

pls

[real pasture]

Updates always have content type of content varies, not the nature of what an “update” is

[trim schooner]

tc terms

if you go with mc then literally everything is an update

and dlcs dont really exist

they remove herobrine and its an update

[wary hound]

mc?

[trim schooner]

like theyve been doing for the past 10 years

minecraft

[wary hound]

oh

[foggy sable]

I think they called it a DLC because it was seperate from the rest of the game content for the most part

[smoky matrix]

CORTY!!!!!!

[wary hound]

mine craft is an example they are just updates not dlcs

[trim schooner]

minecraft doesn't care

[vivid creek]

I think the issue is that dlc is just too vague of a term
It could encompass expansions, updates, content packs, whatever else

Calling them dlcs is not inherrently wrong, but it's less specific

[real pasture]

Hola Jay

[trim schooner]

if we went with minecraft terms dlcs dont exist

[smoky matrix]

My second favourite R5 victor.

[wary hound]

and also mosst consider a dlc as 💸

yk

[trim schooner]

not really

free dlcs exist

e33

silksong

hollow knight

[ember cedar]

how many times i gotta beat zotes ass up?

[foggy sable]

Speaking of r5 mine is now on the list

[trim schooner]

wdym

[foggy sable]

After 7 months

[real pasture]

Second eh?

[wary hound]

🤦‍♂️

[lilac ginkgo]

i think it gets closed after 10

not sure

[foggy sable]

There is a list of all r5 players

[ember cedar]

isnt there an archivement for it?

[foggy sable]

And I wasn't on it until recently

[trim schooner]

its like saying free games arent free because they dont cost money

o

[smoky matrix]

Well, out of 230, second place ain't so bad, right?

[trim schooner]

wheres the list

[wary hound]

wat

[foggy sable]

Despite doing r5 in May

[smoky matrix]

And it will second place no matter how many more are added.

[wary hound]

🤦‍♂️ make sense pls

[real pasture]

Oh not at all, I’m very happy with my silver

[trim schooner]

you said dlcs cost money

[trim schooner]

.

[foggy sable]

Well technically economically it isn't free because of opportunity cost

So

[trim schooner]

thats the same as saying free games arent free because games should cost money

[wary hound]

didnt say i said most c onsider

like bro

[smoky matrix]

[wary hound]

read

[trim schooner]

and?

most consider games as costing money

can you read

[wary hound]

no

no

[trim schooner]

free is an adjective

[zealous matrix]

ye wr is 2 49 or smth like that

i wasted some time tho

[trim schooner]

free games and games that cost money are still games

same with dlcs

[wary hound]

not neccesarily im refering to the fact that u think ANY extra content is a dlc

[trim schooner]

technically if its downloadable and contains content

its a dlc

[wary hound]

game = dlc?

[foggy sable]

So a word document is a dlc

[trim schooner]

yup

sounds about right

[wary hound]

this is stupid

[zealous matrix]

?

[trim schooner]

i think its mainly depends on whats widely accepted

[foggy sable]

The p5ab document can be a dlc

[zealous matrix]

i thought dlcs were like extra content

nt a game

[trim schooner]

everyone considers the hk and silksong dlcs dlcs

so theyre dlcs

mc updates are called updates

therefore updates

in which case sea of sorrows will be a dlc

[wary hound]

the extra content gets added as patches rather than sperate purchases or downloads

so

[wary hound]

i dont like this way of looking

[trim schooner]

still a dlc

[trim schooner]

yes but its the way it is

[wary hound]

not always

[trim schooner]

its a dlc

[wary hound]

no

[trim schooner]

yes

[wary hound]

bro

[trim schooner]

yes

[civic scarab]

Downloadable content

Sounds like a dlc to me

[foggy sable]

HK gen is a trainwreck again

[chrome otter]

we got pv and nkg beefing right here

[trim schooner]

ik

[chrome otter]

lore accurate

[trim schooner]

its worse than hk discussion

[trim schooner]

real

[wary hound]

yeh

[trim schooner]

the mods on dnd

[wary hound]

barely cause u exist

[trim schooner]

😂

COOKED

[golden glacier]

Chat i have 105% on my first hollow knight run, should i aim for 112 or should I play sk

[wary hound]

112

[trim schooner]

your choice

i started sk before 112

but at least get all charms and the easy stuff first

maybe leave godhome and colo

[golden glacier]

already did all that

Full colo

[civic scarab]

Do 112

[golden glacier]

Full charma

Charms

[trim schooner]

what are you missing

[golden glacier]

Haven't done any of the pantheons

[trim schooner]

whats not an update then

[golden glacier]

Like at all

[wary hound]

wym

[trim schooner]

wdym wdim

whats not an update

if bug patch = update and content = update

[wary hound]

example

[trim schooner]

whats not an update

[wary hound]

those could have been an update

but they are paid

[trim schooner]

its downloadable music

nvm

[wary hound]

thatss still a dlc

and thers more

[trim schooner]

technically you updated the game tho

its just that it costs money

[wary hound]

i mean

[trim schooner]

if a new version of minecraft was released but it cost money would it be an update or dlc

[wary hound]

this is the same thing but less

[wary hound]

no itd be a sequel

[civic scarab]

LMAO

[trim schooner]

no what

like 1.26

[shrewd nymph]

nightmare and void arguing rn

[wary hound]

oh

no

[civic scarab]

Good answer nephew

[trim schooner]

was peak tho

[zealous skiff]

ts canon

[wicked kiln]

FUCK

[trim schooner]

unfortunately canonically im gonna lose

[wary hound]

maybe if i can win i can beat nmv

[wicked kiln]

I DIDNT DISABLE THE MOD

[trim schooner]

whats nmv

[shrewd nymph]

lmao real

[trim schooner]

nail masters

[wary hound]

heh

[wary hound]

nightmare and void

[trim schooner]

which mod

[trim schooner]

o

[smoky matrix]

@shrewd meadow

[wicked kiln]

iggaf im using invincibility

[trim schooner]

have you considered getting good

[wicked kiln]

i can no hit him either way

[wary hound]

u beat it

lol

[zealous skiff]

imagine gms giving radiance loads for stealing something from the fridge

[trim schooner]

tried for like 20 minutes then went back to boundless infinity

you just cant

[smoky matrix]

Radiance would eat GMS.

[wary hound]

? wym

[smoky matrix]

Because moths like silk.

[wary hound]

imaget something to eat

[zealous skiff]

TRUE

[trim schooner]

wait guys if nkg and pv fought canonically pv would get wrecked ye

cos nkg higher being

[foggy sable]

They would both just teleport away from each other

[civic scarab]

Now that I’m thinking about it I literally have zero clue how powerful NKG is

What even is the basis

[trim schooner]

little ghost

trust

[shrewd nymph]

its good smh

[trim schooner]

i think it was before rad bi tho

[wary hound]

is nkg the higher being or is the nightmare heart the higher being and also pv which is peak hollow knight was capable of holding back the radiance so

[trim schooner]

santa king grimm what did you get to eat

[wary hound]

cheese

and cracker

s

[trim schooner]

o i forgot yea nkg not the nightmare heart

also yeah pv is meant to be able to hold back a higher being

huh

[wary hound]

wym HUH

[trim schooner]

huh

[wary hound]

huh

[trim schooner]

huh

[trim schooner]

but on that basis pv wins cos nkg not higher being

but nor is pv

[wary hound]

well

thats not how it works

nkg is like not THE Nightmare heart but a manifestation of it

[trim schooner]

then nkg wins

[wary hound]

its like 40-60

but yeh

maybe not 40-60\

i read on it

nkg is basically just a warlock

with the master being nightmare heart

if nh wanted nkg to lose he could just take all his power away

[wicked kiln]

.................

thanmk you lune

[wary hound]

or give him more ( the knight doesnt fight hit at peak )

[wary hound]

its only hard when u reach phase 3 LIkE ACTUALLY HARD

[wicked kiln]

its p5

[wary hound]

oh

lol

WAIT

wat is pv

then

[wicked kiln]

i forgot to disable mod

[wary hound]

oh

lol

have fun

thats 30 mins down the drain

[wicked kiln]

nah

i used invincibility

idc

i know for a fact i can beat NKG radiant

[wary hound]

i mean FAIR but not

[wary hound]

FAIR

[wicked kiln]

hell yes fair

[wary hound]

u have to beat nkg right after with nail binding

[wicked kiln]

ill just do radiant

nah ascended

[wary hound]

fair

[wicked kiln]

ok with 20 damage

and asvcended

[wary hound]

u have debug mod ritght

[wicked kiln]

FOR FUCK SAKE I HAVE FUCKING DOUBLE RADIANCE MOD ON

[wary hound]

just do - 4 damage 2 times

OMG lol

[wicked kiln]

THIS IS THE THIRD BOSS

[wary hound]

OMG LOL

[wicked kiln]

I HAVE MODS ON'

[wary hound]

HAHAHAHAA

3rd

?/

[wicked kiln]

SLY NKG AND RADIANCE

[wary hound]

oh

[upbeat elbow]

Heyq

[wary hound]

wat was sly

[wicked kiln]

ok i could disable mod

[upbeat elbow]

I'm new in discussion

I was in general

[wary hound]

😭 😭

NOOO

[wicked kiln]

@wary hound

[wary hound]

are u good or bad

[upbeat elbow]

So what is here

[upbeat elbow]

Gud

[wary hound]

yeh but wat does it change about it

[wicked kiln]

the good side of the hk fandom

the cool guys

[wary hound]

m

e

[wicked kiln]

and hollow knight players

[upbeat elbow]

Good

I'm ralsei with weaversong

[wary hound]

huh

[upbeat elbow]

So what was happening

[upbeat elbow]

My pfp

[wary hound]

i still dont know

[upbeat elbow]

Dis

[wary hound]

yeh but why that name

[upbeat elbow]

I look like ralsei

[upbeat elbow]

Still cool

[wicked kiln]

sigh

i died to radiance

[upbeat elbow]

Wut

[wary hound]

😭

its double radiance

[wicked kiln]

the guy i beat 6 times radiant in a row

[upbeat elbow]

Damn

[wicked kiln]

no i disabled it

[wary hound]

oh

NICE

YAYYYYYAYAY

wait

LOLLOLO

NAUGHTY

[wicked kiln]

god im so ass

i should give up on this god damn game

im so dogshit

[upbeat elbow]

No

You can be better

[wary hound]

no u will be missed

[wary hound]

thats inaccurate

chinses radiance

thats double btw

[ember cedar]

guys mister mushroom just ascended but i still hadent gotten the archivemetn 😭

[wary hound]

beat the hk

then i t will

[ember cedar]

again?

oh for fu-

[wary hound]

its NOT THAT BAD

[ember cedar]

i alr killed bro 3 times 😭

also i dont have none of hk archivements i js realized

the sealed siblings one

those two i have 103% game completion

and defeated the hk already

[wary hound]

WAT

u have to beat it after

mushroom ascends

[ember cedar]

okay i got that but what abt those two

i have neither and i am supposed to

[wary hound]

sealed siblings u have done?

like as u dont dreamnail the hollow knight

[ember cedar]

yea hornet did show up although i dream nailed the hk

ah okay

i get that one

but the 100% game completion?

[floral breach]

Should I buy the game from steam or Microsoft store?

[ember cedar]

steam

[wary hound]

have u beat the game since u did it?

[wary hound]

steam

[ember cedar]

i have 103% game completion though

wait imma fight hk again

and see what i get

[wary hound]

YEH

[floral breach]

Alrighty tighty well just gotta wait for my bday

[ember cedar]

i shouldnt dream nail him right?

[wary hound]

some achievements are GET something and beat the game'

[wary hound]

for sealed siblings yes

dont dnail

[ember cedar]

its on sale till jan 5th although idk how much since regional pricing

[ember cedar]

oki

ty ty

[floral breach]

I hope y'all fine fellows a good morning/evening/night

[ember cedar]

you as well

[wary hound]

thx same to u

wait when did i get 55 achievements

[ember cedar]

also @wary hound you got any custom hp bars for the bosses? or somewhere i can get them from

[foggy sable]

you're catching up

[wary hound]

no lumafly? also dont use hp bars tbh it makes u more nervous

[ember cedar]

no

[wary hound]

good idea

[ember cedar]

its lowk a buff

as well as grim child

trust

[wary hound]

wat 3 u missing

[foggy sable]

the boring ones

[upbeat elbow]

||:3||

[wary hound]

eg

[foggy sable]

(hunter & muhsroom)

[floral breach]

In Indonesia you can currently get both for around 200.000 RP which is around 12 usd

[wary hound]

both hunters

REALLY

[foggy sable]

yes

[wary hound]

dam

[ember cedar]

HORNET NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[opal hearth]

||:3||

[foggy sable]

a skill issue I know

[ember cedar]

WHY IS HORNET DEAD

[upbeat elbow]

Wtf

[wary hound]

its not cannon

[copper spruce]

Skill issue

[warped siren]

yippee

[floral breach]

Y'all chat I have question do y'all recommend me using a mod for my first play through? Not like a cheat panel mod but like custom sprites cuz I really like some custom sprites for lil'ghost

[foggy sable]

gg

[wary hound]

no

[warped siren]

took me like 5h tho

[wary hound]

well u can

but its better to not

[ember cedar]

i js beat the hk and i got a diffrent ending cutscene but no archivement should i js rejoin the game

[wary hound]

odd

odd

[copper spruce]

save file is cooked

[ember cedar]

lemme restart the

game

[floral breach]

Ok

[ember cedar]

still nothing

wth

[wary hound]

im 56

now

[ember cedar]

no archivements

bleh

wait

hornet is back again

wth

@wary hound is she supposed to be back?

[wary hound]

endings never " truly " happen

[wary hound]

yes

[misty umbra]

Why does my voidheart cost notches? Is it a bug?

[wary hound]

except true

[wary hound]

bug

bug

[ember cedar]

imma beat hk again and not skip the cutscene 😭

[foggy sable]

oh no catching up

[misty umbra]

Any way to fix?

I just want to radiant bosses again...

[boreal reef]

Is there a way to get zote after 112%? This is just sad

[misty umbra]

You can fight him even though you completed the trial

[boreal reef]

I can’t, it’s locked “undiscovered”

Or is there a mod to fix it?

[foggy sable]

have you saved him in deepnest then redone colo 1?

[misty umbra]

Save him then redo colo 1

[foggy sable]

try removing then adding with debug mod

[misty umbra]

K ill try

[wary hound]

he shouldnt show up unless u save him

where have u seen him so far

[boreal reef]

Yup, I wasn’t following any guide for his quest, last time is prob vengefly

[desert trail]

wsp guys

[wary hound]

go deepnest

[misty umbra]

Go to deepnest and find him

[wary hound]

savee him ther

and then colo 1

[boreal reef]

Does he just die if I don’t save him?

[wary hound]

and then dirtmouth

[desert trail]

im abt to fight ||thk|| any tips?

[wary hound]

only in greenpath

[misty umbra]

If you don't save him from vfk

[boreal reef]

Oooo, alright man tysm, this helps me so much

[cursive geyser]

Fuck zote ong

Good for nothin asshole 💔

Lost kin shows more respect for being killed than zote does for being saved

[misty umbra]

Wait what button do i have to press to open debug menu

The mod

[foggy sable]

f1

[halcyon nexus]

I get to wake up tomorrow and try to do nkg

[boreal reef]

Do you mean Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful Grey Prince Zote?
OR
That deadass zote?

[halcyon nexus]

I can probably do it

[misty umbra]

Oh tysm

[foggy sable]

you can also do it from the mod settings if you forget

[cursive geyser]

Did you sit here manually typing this shi 💔

[remote apex]

Got skong for christmas

[cursive geyser]

But no i mean reg bum zote

[remote apex]

The mighty zote?

[cursive geyser]

Yup

[boreal reef]

I got a life

Copy pasted

[gloomy scarab]

Save them in deepnest,
fight them at the end of colosseum 1,
check if bretta is talking to them in dirtmouth.
Sit at a bench between all of these steps

[misty umbra]

Ok there was no give voidheart thing from the debug menu

So i had to get kingsoul from the menu and do the cutscene again

I don't fucking mind because i love the cutscene

[boreal reef]

Evil, do you know any good mod for hk?

I’ve only done Pale court and Randomizer for now

[boreal reef]

And I dislike broken bosses such as ANY Radiance

[ember spruce]

all hallownest enhanced is good

[boreal reef]

That’s kinda spoiler to silksong 🫠

[boreal reef]

Ight thanks

[ember spruce]

boundless infinity is fun too

[ember spruce]

haha

[ember spruce]

no problem

[nimble trench]

ROT’s mods are good so like boundless infinity but also purity/sunset samsara

[misty umbra]

I played too much silksong now im washed at hollow knight

[boreal reef]

Nah, Radiant Abs Rad is easier than that annoying mosquito

[ember cedar]

how much % is godhome and the trials ??

if anybody knows

[boreal reef]

4% for p1-p4

[nimble trench]

5% and 3% respectively

godtuner counts as a %

[ember cedar]

okay so i finish the trials then get my game to like 108% ?

then i start pantheons

[boreal reef]

Fr?

[boreal reef]

Yeah, I recommend finishing everything before pantheons

[ember cedar]

ye

thanks yall

back to grinding :P

entrence to this grub ?

[upbeat elbow]

Hewoooo

[ember cedar]

if anybody remembers

[ember cedar]

heyya

[upbeat elbow]

How ya doin

[ember cedar]

alrighty

you?

[upbeat elbow]

😢

[ember cedar]

ty

[ember cedar]

?

[upbeat elbow]

Very sad

[ember cedar]

why is that

[misty umbra]

What the fuck nkg didn't do the pufferfish attack???

[upbeat elbow]

My friend didn't respond

[upbeat elbow]

See

[boreal reef]

Huh

[upbeat elbow]

What do I do

[ember cedar]

oh uh

just give him time i guess?

[crude falcon]

bruh my hollow knight

[boreal reef]

Did u just insta kill nkg with cheats or what? .-.

[upbeat elbow]

It's been 4 hours

[upbeat elbow]

Wtf is that pfp

[zealous skiff]

pro tip: if you want someone to respond, harassing them endlessly and demanding a response has the opposite effect

[misty umbra]

He did the first attack in around %54 hp

And no

[zealous skiff]

people don't like feeling forced into a response

[upbeat elbow]

Really

[upbeat elbow]

Sounds correct

[zealous skiff]

If they were able to or wanted to respond they would've give them time and peace ✅

[upbeat elbow]

Oh ok

So I should wait

[misty umbra]

Is my health bar broken or smth

[upbeat elbow]

What is that pfp

Still waiting

._.

Am I going to wait for eternity

I could play hk

But ||oro and mato||

Are too strong

I must finish pantheon 1

I will train over and over

I won't give

I will win

[tame coral]

Why does the dung defendern not go to sleep

[upbeat elbow]

Dung defender

[tame coral]

I'm on my second playthrough and i forgot when he does

[tame coral]

Yh

[upbeat elbow]

Is a fun fight

[misty umbra]

Wow first try pv radiant

[upbeat elbow]

I beat him on ascended

[tame coral]

Ok

I did on radiant

[misty umbra]

I think you have to defeat all 3 dreamers

[tame coral]

But when does he go to sleep

[upbeat elbow]

Good job

[tame coral]

I forgot

[tame coral]

Tf

[upbeat elbow]

I will train

ORO AND MATO SHALL FALL TO MY BLADE

[crisp willow]

You need to dream nail all of the dreamers

[crisp willow]

Fun fight :3

[upbeat elbow]

Too hard

BUT I MUST GIT GUD

[crisp willow]

Thats the spirit

[upbeat elbow]

I WILL RETURN

[crisp willow]

Don'f forget, you are the strongest and purest vessel to be ever born ever.

[upbeat elbow]

BE BACK AFTER I WIN THEM

[ember cedar]

does the whispering root count towards %

[foggy sable]

no

[empty fable]

A person who thinks all the time, knows not to use thorns of agony like I did

[crisp willow]

Nope

[ember cedar]

ok tyy

[crisp willow]

Thorns of agony actively worsens your chances of beating a boss btw

Just so you know

[empty fable]

Yeah I know

I used it once and it felt so wrong

[crisp willow]

Yup

Cuz like- eye frames aee cruital

[empty fable]

I’m buns tbh

[crisp willow]

Regardless of how good you are

You need them

You could go stallward shell + agong

But then the question is

"Why would you"

[empty fable]

Yeah without you just insta die

I got a plushie from my friend for Christmas

[crisp willow]

It works for Bosses that don't move much, or move in a set way-

Like nosl for example

[empty fable]

Yeah

Nosk is Lwk boring

[crisp willow]

If nosk is running from A to B, it works

[empty fable]

Such a great concept but just wasted

[crisp willow]

Truemm

I wish it had 3 phases

[empty fable]

Howling wraiths

[crisp willow]

In the first we fight our selfs

In the sevond we fight a corrupted version of our selves

And the third phase is the true nodk

[empty fable]

Or second phase could be

Sum like a broken back

Idk

Just longer limbs and a ripped cloak

More than usual

[upper moth]

guys

[wary hound]

hello

[crisp willow]

I no guy but hi

[wary hound]

um

yes u are

[hexed nacelle]

i got some hk stuff from a convention guys

[wary hound]

guy is a nuetral pronoun

now

[wary hound]

GIMMEH

gimmeh

[crisp willow]

No?

[crisp willow]

I aint

[hexed nacelle]

it’s js some pins

[wary hound]

well guys is atleast

[wary hound]

stillGIMMEH

[hexed nacelle]

but im vry happi

[naive dew]

guy is used pretty gender neutrally now

[hexed nacelle]

nu

[crisp willow]

I don't wanna be called guy/dude oy anything alime

[wary hound]

i think it also may have been changed in the dictionary

[wary hound]

sad

[wary hound]

fair enough

sorry

[crisp willow]

U rgud

[crisp willow]

That cool

[ember cedar]

what are those?

[wary hound]

makes it harder

[ember cedar]

oh

[wary hound]

if u want more detail i can give

[ember cedar]

sure

[wary hound]

nail sets ur damage to 13 if u have pure naikl

shell sets ur hp to 4

charms makes u incapable of equipping charms inside the apntehons

[crisp willow]

Bindings, wich means it restricts that thing you bind

[wary hound]

soul allows u to store 33 soul only ( enough for a single spell / heal )

[ember cedar]

oh damn

aint doing any of these 😭

[crisp willow]

You don't need to

[ember cedar]

wait those arent the pantheons right?

[crisp willow]

No

[ember cedar]

like

[wary hound]

id say weakens

[ember cedar]

oki oki

[crisp willow]

Patnhrons are the arena

[naive dew]

fair enough

[ember cedar]

wait is tehre a place i can change my charms in

while doing the trials

ah nvm

i found it

[crisp willow]

In pantheons you get a bath break occationaly

[wary hound]

and a bench and max soul and hp

[fallow frost]

MYAH HA HA HA I did it

after years

[ember cedar]

yea i got it

[fallow frost]

I beat NKG

[ember cedar]

oh

wait is he actually that hard 😭

[fallow frost]

turns out the solution had been there all along

[fallow frost]

I was trying to nail him to death

and was not using sharp shadow

turns out I had a awful strat

I used abyss shriek style instead and wow

also I have tried on and off since I first played hollow knight

it hasnt been years straight

[ember cedar]

i kinda js dpsed him and killed him like 3rd try 😭

spells arent really ideal with him

but congratss

[fallow frost]

nah they worked amazing just

when he does the pillars

[ember cedar]

you got the best charm in the game now

[fallow frost]

you walk so they spawn close and shriek after final

[ember cedar]

equip it !

[fallow frost]

it takes like 8 including smacks and sharp shadow

[fallow frost]

he certainly shoots slow orbs

also like

years ago I was like

15?

16?

I think 15

before silksong had even been announced

and I never beat him

so I am quite glad

[ember cedar]

congrats 😭

[ember cedar]

his very lovely though trust

[fallow frost]

well yeah hes cute

and goes like

"scraaw"

[wary hound]

who?

[fallow frost]

grimmchild

[ember cedar]

i had like strength mark of pride long nail and lots of dps bs 😭

[wary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/grimm-nightmare-king-grimm-troupe-master-grimm-hollow-knight-goodnight-gif-12830119853780674915

[ember cedar]

grimchild who else

[wary hound]

my child

[ember cedar]

best charm in game

[fallow frost]

I looked up and

this takes about 43 hits

its the other best strat but

[wary hound]

do u expect me to know what my child likes or does?

[fallow frost]

tbh the biggest help was sharp shadow

[crisp willow]

Thats like- what i said

[wary hound]

u just said bath break

[manic hearth]

if i destroy the delicate flower can i get a new one?

[fallow frost]

and learning you can dodge through both his kick and his slash if you time it

[wary hound]

yes

infinte

[fallow frost]

yes. although the mourner will question your talents if you lose alot.

but no real punishment

[manic hearth]

oh thought it was like a one thing and thought i was fucked

[fallow frost]

you get dissed at worse

[ember cedar]

or just git gud and dodge his attacks

[crisp willow]

The soul jakuzi gives: max hp, and max soul

Like- ;-;

[fallow frost]

how do you think I beat him

[manic hearth]

i gotta unlock a shortcut so yeah

[fallow frost]

I just stopped doing insane dodges that involved pogos

and used the shade cloak for once

[wary hound]

yeh but not all people knew this for a while ( me )

[fallow frost]

I have a bad habit of forgeting I have it

[crisp willow]

lol

[ember cedar]

exactly

[fallow frost]

also it seems that most people dont win

[marsh torrent]

dude what
i beat trial of the fool and it just didnt give me the achievement, not in game and not on steam

[fallow frost]

I actually kept trying and won

ggs

[wary hound]

how so?

[marsh torrent]

i beat radiant nkg just today

[wary hound]

oh

[fallow frost]

only 15% of game owners beat him

[wary hound]

most people banish

[ember cedar]

restart the game

[wary hound]

26%

[fallow frost]

and if I bring up for getting an ending

[wary hound]

no 15% beat him AND COMPLETE the ritual

some also beat him and banish

but not complete the ritual

( hall of gods )

[fallow frost]

oh

is there a seperate one for

hall of gods NGK?

[wary hound]

p5?

ig

[marsh torrent]

i did, no achievement

[foggy sable]

to beat him no ritual you have to get to him in p5

[wary hound]

so embrace the void

[marsh torrent]

nightmare ging krimm

[fallow frost]

tbf 20% always just havent played it

[wary hound]

yeh lol

[foggy sable]

the amount of people who do that but not do ritual would be negligible

[fallow frost]

so if you take the 77% and account for the missing as having thje game but not started it

[ashen cobalt]

What about to the other 23%

[wary hound]

their chads or bad

[marsh torrent]

my fuckin headphones died :( didnt even tell me they were low on battery

[wary hound]

also the jump is big

[fallow frost]

steam counts people who own the game and have never launched it

[fallow frost]

theres a VERY clear filter

and thats the sisters of battle

(mantis lords)

(I just think their title is cooler)

[wary hound]

yeh they were LIKE SO FUN THO

[fallow frost]

they are one of my favorite bosses

[wary hound]

other than that its alll pretty even

[ashen cobalt]

The best and most fun boss is tribe of battle

[fallow frost]

I watched my friend first time playing

beat his first boss

brooding mawlek

[foggy sable]

some people don't find mantis lords first playthrough

[wary hound]

fuck them its just ddark spam

[fallow frost]

😭

[fallow frost]

yeah but most do

they are the obvious path

[wary hound]

fair IG

[chrome otter]

i think people just quit either cuz they cant find the way to fungal wastes or because of fog canyon

[foggy sable]

not if you miss it

[wary hound]

maybe yeh

[fallow frost]

also if you look online theres alot of people saying "omg mantis lords so hard"

even if you do miss them like

its clear thats around the dropoff point

[wary hound]

😭 icl im so used to absrad that i died to notmal radiance cuase of how slow it is LIKE WAT

[fallow frost]

things you do around a similar point of the game are also the 40%

[wary hound]

broken vessel is fair icl cause crystal dash was A BITCH

[fallow frost]

also I forgor

if I beat the game again

can I keep playing?

[wary hound]

yes

[chrome otter]

that detour to the upper side was devious

[fallow frost]

ok

[wary hound]

they dont actually happen

[fallow frost]

I need this

[wary hound]

yeh

[fallow frost]

also is there anything to see post NGK death

should I bother going up the cliff

[crisp willow]

Mantis lords is the point where mant people leave the game for the first time cuz its hard to backtrack to it and so they go "if the esrly bosses are third hard n annoying, i wont do good"

[chrome otter]

no not rly

[upper moth]

guys, ultrakill is worthless?

[chrome otter]

only grimmchild upgrade

[fallow frost]

people honestly overeact over runbacks in these games

[marsh torrent]

i got it before i mysteriously stopped getting achievements

[wary hound]

lore

[fallow frost]

mantis lords is easy runback

[wary hound]

yeh

also u get lifeblood

if u know where

that is

[fallow frost]

even groam in silksong is TBH easy

I think in this and silksong

alot of people forget its a non linear game

[wary hound]

groam?

[fallow frost]

meaning you CAN come back later and in alot of cases thats whats expected

[wary hound]

well the lore is linear

the game is sandbox

kinda

[fallow frost]

bilewater boss after a monster closet.

[wary hound]

oh

[chrome otter]

groal

[fallow frost]

its the new worst runback

AH

thats his name

tbf

maybe I am insane tho

I enjoy dark souls 2

[chrome otter]

i mean if you look up bilewater benches you'll get the easier runback

[fallow frost]

ho ho

[fallow frost]

i just found the bench by hitting walls like a paranoid man all the time

[peak hound]

ngl
playing hk for the first time is always a completely different experience than replaying it

[chrome otter]

but going from the bellway is just horrendous

[fallow frost]

both games this as served me well

[rapid wharf]

Guys wake up

[wary hound]

no

[chrome otter]

hk discussion dead as always

[wary hound]

bro waited till it died

to say this

[chrome otter]

i was doing smth

[rapid wharf]

Not

No

Revived

[sand wharf]

you talking killed it bruh

[chrome otter]

ok

[vernal prairie]

I decided to fight the fluke boss after I got my pure nail and it absolutely anhialated the boss.how is pure nail this strong?

Though I was also using unbreakable strength

The fluke boss died in 8-7 hits

[chrome otter]

because it's pure

it's the ultimate nail

[vernal prairie]

If pure+unbreakable strength is this strong then how strong will it be with fury attached?

[chrome otter]

more dmg than shade soul single hit

i believe fury + strength give like +170% dmg

[shrewd nymph]

Bit less

But about that

[wary hound]

hello

[severe breach]

[chrome otter]

welp ig im gonna use my 27 more hours i have to get completion speedrun in sk

[severe breach]

Good luck

[wary hound]

wrong place

delete that

[severe breach]

Yeah uh
#sk-discussion

[chrome otter]

mods really dont like sk images here ?

i mean it was just 1 but

[wary hound]

spoilers are spoilers

[shrewd nymph]

Nothing sk related

[severe breach]

Just that this is a channel meant for Hollow Knight and not SilkSong

[chrome otter]

ig

imma go play then

instead of chatting here

[severe breach]

Alright then

Cya

[wary hound]

im close

[tame coral]

Am i underleveled for gpz i got 6 masks and 6 charm notches

[wary hound]

YES

YES

well

i mean

plus its optional

[tame coral]

Ok

I was just speedrunning to him becuse i forgot to save him in my main save

[wary hound]

i mean if u think u can

then why not

but

[tame coral]

But?

[wary hound]

wait

nvm

u only have to vs him once for the achievment