#hk-discussion
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All my actions are on keyboard q-q
so is everything but atk and dnail
I DONT UNDERSTSND
MonStahLer does iirc
So you can definitely get very good at the game with just keyboard
I use my xbox controller
where did this +99999999 come. From?
It feels like premium and stuff
I know someone who did a anyrad
They said I had good control of my character
I like weaving through the orange balls
Instead of d dashing or ddarking
i wish there was a mod that would make left right up and down slash keybindable so you can freely move and just use arrows to attack wherever you want
sounds awfully like binding of issac to me
now that you say it
Sounds like it'd make animation cancelling more feasible tbh
me
I’ve been wanting binding of Issac for so long
FINALY
i think ill be getting isaac for steam sale
i use arrow keys for 2D games
it just feels more natural for those kinds of games
along with maybe nine sols
SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS
Fighting games other then guilty gear I use controller
Like rivals of aether
animation cancelling is imo overrated in difficuilty you just gotta get in the perfect rythm
get into that flow state
no eyes is actually harder than grimm
piracy is free
yes
Do you ever just fail to face dance abs rad like 4 times in a row
It's less about the difficulty and more about the payoff
The benefit is minimal
Nah
EVERY TIME I PIRATE NOT ONLY DOES MY PC DIE
BUT I LOSE ALL MY PROGRESS
I LOST 3 HK SAVES
A 900 HOUR 100% EVERY ENDING RPRAINWORLD SAVE
Piracy is illegal but who cares
I’m not taking the risk of losing hours again
Like, if it was hard & had huge payoff it''d be good
If it was easy and had low payoff it'd be cool
But it's moderately difficult for a very small dps boost
If it was easier it'd make it more worthwhile trying to squeeze out the extra dps, imo
imo even when i played on my switch and wasnt in the community like at all i was on my own i also sometimes animation cancelled cause i noticed and felt it was attacking faster these 0.04 seconds are def noticable imo
its not the craziest boost
like 10%
just did the p1 part of p5.. wish me luck guys
but imo makes the fights less boring and if you can do it without being inbetween markoth and his shield or sum you def should
or at least try some
It gets ez till the end
Best of luck
I might learn it for anyrad
But not for r5 
stupid fucking no eyes
End starts from for you?, imo end begins at markoth,
took more attempts than grimm
Wait till you meet markoth
yeah R5 with that shit is tricky😭
how did team cherry make all the dream bosses so shitilly not fun to beat
It isn’t just me right?
r5 doesn't need anything fancy
plus its a byproduct of good face dancing so
people forget that and think they have to pull off te ano performance
for it to be a valid R5
Sub-30 for a first time r5 completion would be epic though, ngl
Boooooring
My first r5 was so scuffed I didn't submit it anywhere
R5?
I'm on track for like 31-32 mins with how I currently play
Gotta shave off a couple more mins somehow
LMAO
Hitless p5
If you're playing r5 safe and non-flashy are you really playing r5
Also I pause for about 5 minutes per run
yo
1.5x boundless infinity
wow ggs
yea this morning
You gotta parry all of pure vessels attacks
this dude
exactly 3 months after i got hollow knight
Or it’s not flashy
very cool
Parry all the attacks frame perfectly
Oh we got the game a similar time i think
Thats cool
o no way
bro youre insane
wtf
3 months p5ab
says you
Eh
seeing 2 prodigys talk
It was weird a super close god tamer I think
Wat
Ima ruin it
p5ab harder than bounldess infinity on 1.5x speed

🍋
god tamer pmo so hard
o leonhk
is it?
i saw your video on boundless infinity i think
Kinda incomparable
bro if it isn't actually harder
That isn’t helpful
the mental strenght required for p5ab
Yep
is so much worse than boundless infinity 1.5x speed
P5ab is fun
WHATS THE BOSS
How about low hit 
Like is it an any radiance ?
i did p5ab back in the day after 400 to m500 hours on my switch thats where i retired for a year and came back on my pc lol
i will never do p5ab
Its fun to torture yourself
that shit is too much for me
Boundless infinity?
Yeah, its a parry focused pure vessel mod
1.5x is wr until suscat uploads his 1.7 lol
i wont do it again maybe but it really is fun
Like 3 hours to complete that and don't even think if you failed
chat is radiance hard? 🙂 i forgot
last time i did p5ab i died at collector
Not really
then gave up again
I know but it doesn’t look that hard
went back to R5
Did suscat do 140% radiant or just normal 140%
Its the second hardest mainstream modded boss imo
he says as he plans to go for bi ab
I never thought the collector is really hard at all binding cuz the minion he spawn
dude
i wanna see you surpass suscat
youre the only i think coukld surpass suscat in pure vessel
already have with 1.5 speed
Does radiant BI gain hp
Wait so it’s a p5 hitless run with boundless infinity and purify?
he also hasn't tried speedrunning boundless infinity so for now im faster
What 😭
thts not a thing
Mb gang
nah hes insane
also hes played for years
you dont one shot the minions
i dont stand a chance
Suscat has a PV-PHD
with 2k hours you got 300
yeah
And then all of a sudden theres a swarm of primal aspid trying to kill you
not pv
he's been doing it for so long
yea
i can do it fast
but theres some things he does that i cant even pretend to be able to do
i think he already did partly the human limit speedrun with perfect rng
pure vessel didnt spawn away one time in his WR
animation cancelling during the stabby ground attack requires insane precision
No
He told me made one mistake in the new radiant wr
But its definitely nearing human limit
im going for a sub 2.30 on boundless infinity before ab
im like 5 seconds off so
shouldn't be too hard
ive gotten really close but i keep choking
also phase 4 is lasting forever for no reason and idk why
lmao
chat i got my 7th mask
gg
Now get the 8th one
there might be a lil problem with that...
slye closed his shop...
Huh?
he went down into his basement
a lot
there's no more "shop"
Did you teach yourself or learn it from somewhere?
taught myself
Very cool
idk how long first clear took
everything after took maybe 12 something hours
hold on
Have you bought all of them before he does that?
nope 🙃
i went to go kill hk and dreamers and collect essence
rad took 5h 1.5x took 4 2.35 took 2 maybe?
1.3x took like an hour max so we'll just say an hour
yeah maybe 24h
i feel like it should be a lot more tho
idk
gmcb
first clear took a month of very inconsistent playing
How to change this statue? I see on yt you can change this
do all bosses in hog on harder difficulties
Hello. Do you guys have any PNGs of Hornet like this in game? I need a few to make some sort of video
yea and radiant
The statue have 2 upgrades?
Wait wat is this a new playthrough?
i didn't draw that
its in the game
Maybe idk
You have to beat all the bosses on a difficulty
So that is attuned
no fr tho i grabbed it from hkmemes subreddit
Then ascended
Goodmorning
And radiant
You can’t really change it back though…
For acsended only absrad left, so...
Classified information
JUST DO IT, YOU GOTTA BE STRONG
awh
you got this man
I dont know what it actually stands for, i think everyone has their own interpretation
Yeah i'm gonna do it
😂
It looks like super cooleo once you get all radainted
Why not?
So, no one knows where I could get the PNGs?
try the hk wiki/fandom
I'm a bit completionist so yeah why i would not to get all bosses to radiant?
?
The only one I found was low quality sadly
because rad markoth rad absrad are awful
i fluked markoth
but i wouwld never do it again
I'm looking for some Hornet PNGs in game like this with different poses like her looking up and all that
Could just make your own right?
I'm gonna insane but hey challenge is challenge right?
Why not Silksong
I'm not an artist though
Indeed
Silksong sprites :]
yup
for markoth would recommend carefree melody with carefreerngreset
Didn't have carefree tho
Oh wow thank you
Use it
No, bad
Overrated
Underrated
its useless other than with carefreerng reset and for radiant
me when I want to turn hk into a lottery
Just use that meme charm on that boss right?
It really isnt overrated but yes its bad
what's the point of radiant uf you are getting hit anyway?
Hi chomp
hi lune
It’s a chance at one plus mask
carried my radiant boundless infinity run
For radaint at least
Uh, no i mean grubberflys
Hmmmm,
oh
Nobody knows how carefree works
I do every hit you take you have a higher chance of it working
lol
yeah its good
And whats the point of not overcharmed on radiant bosses?
ok so you want your one radiant win to be a literal fluke like huh???
@shrewd nymph dm
Dungeon master
why wouldn't you overcharm?
A win is a win
Idk
Or care
What you think
How does carefree melody work
Forgot that you're in one-shot difficulty bosses
Sometimes happen to me
from what ive seen its really good for some difficult bosses
This is how 😭
how does that relate to what you were replying to, explain the connection 
You sometimes see it used on markoth but id never recommend it
I know of a strategy that renders carefree melody obselete
I think its worth a shot on radkoth cus I do know of people who struggle with radkoth and < 3 try him with elegies
if it was 3/4'd maybe not
it's quite simple actually
Ok but like why
it's called dodging
And not many people are perfect
I still dont recommend it because its better to just learn narts but i suppose
I understand it’s telling you that sometimes you can get hit
guys does the hunter count as a journal entry?
But like
ddark
Buldershell
shade cloak
It is recommended to use dream shield on obobbles radiant?
One takes soul
yea
Other has a cooldown
Not really
lune saved me with carefreerng reset
Tis a helpful mod
dreamshield only for the goated players
i procced it like 2 seconds into the fight
dreamshield has no use that isnt mega niche
it wasn't even worth 😂
yeah suscat uses it for pv
yeah because how else can you increase dps
So a small chance of not being a waste of notches
its good if you have spare notches and nothing to use it for and youre speedrunning
Grimmchild but thats inconsistent and unreliable for the dmg
cough cough my boundless infinity radiant run
Look man I’m not perfect so a chance at not getting hit is worth 3
wowie this is the killer speaking by the last dinner party song reference hi lune hru
Besides
yo can someone here count how many hits grimmchild landed?
boss has to turn red for it to count
I don’t need op charm combos
The other defense charms are just better ..
Bulder is nice but I have to be healing
Also I can’t move
So I’m waiting to get hit
Id be doing better if you appreciated my math notation
But good, hbu
Quick focus is the best defense then heart because it is only 2 notchrs
what is the notation
Id argue SoU
But like why heal when you didn’t take damage y’know?
i mean in radiant and with carefreerngreset its useful because it basically doubles your tankiness at 90% chance
I wish I was this smart
He doesnt like d/dx for derivatives, oswald is a f'(x) advocate

Because in aggregate faster healing is much better
I’ll stay with mine
theres also x with the dot on it
which is awful
Look man why do you care what I use
You have to set it up each time there which takes ages
Dot is funny for 8th derivative of distance but otherwise i dont touch it
Hi corty
As long as it ain’t heavy blow it’s fair game
carefreerngreset mod does it for you
i finally beat colossuem of fools stage 2 yall
after being away from hollow knight for around 3 or 2 months
You said it was underrated
otherwise itll be useless
Because it is
gg
Not saying it’s the best
gg
It sucks
Just saying it should be considered
Hola 
I don't care if you use it but that is not underrated
@foggy sable
wait with perfect rng will it make you invincible
or at 0 hits is it 0% chance
You can think that
Oswald
And I can think it’s underrated
my experimentalphysics prof used nabla for the derivative of a function with a single parameter the other day
Who at'd me
It follows 10n/99 with n as the amount of hits taken since last activation iirc
Keep using d/dx, multivariate functions can’t be written as f’(x,y) without giving a headache to the reader
so starts at 0, max is 90/99
Whats nabla?
So it needs a mod to not be bad
Which makes it...
God the steamdeck is so awesome
like the sharp shadow buff mod
Why do i feel like that exists
alright
I just burned 3 hours off of a 6 hour journey playing hollow knight 🗣️
I saw that
what does it do
And still at 70% 🔥
makes sharp shadow one shot most bosses
does it just increase dmg
heyo
a slight buff
sharp shadow need no buff it already the strongest charm
thing used for derivatives in 3 dimensions
Did I spy Calculus in HK disc
Great on nkg
Crazy
3? 
or also when
Sharo phadow is the best charm in the game I think
especially when
Oh is that upside down delta
cant think of anything
Anyway how do you guys beat Watcher Knights
ddark
Shrieks and ddarks
Not genuine call for help
and shade souls
Spells in short
yup
Dream nail when spawning and streaking
yo lune its possible to quadruple hit watcher knights with a shade soul yea
Again, not a genuine call for help
Shreaking q-q
with perfect timing
Part of the Sharp Shadow joke
No clue sorry
apparently 1 too if you are my prof
o
i just searched for my headset for hours
That would be actually kinda crazy I always thought it was pretty rare to hit 3
now see it besides me on my bed
Well your prof is technically right 
Nabla is the del operator, defined for R^n
So it does technically work for 1 dim 
Corty message without an emoji in it? Am i dreaming
i know but it’s still cursed
Not happening 
Corty how are you nowadays it's been a minute
You don't remember me probably since I had a rename and was inactive for about 2 years but I'm curious nonetheless. Was "TzarEddie" back then I think
that i didn’t know tho wtf
is this real?
Hola 
smart people 
Ew
Mmm I do recall a TzarEddie from the past 
that name rings a bell
Yay you'd be the first so far
i heard somewhere TASs land 4
That's bonkers damage
yea]
106% steel soul in 7 hours. I had no idea this was possible.
But anyway yeah I'm tryna make myself known again, it's cool seeing so many regulars still around
i started hk only a month ago
No
Formally, nabla is the function’s gradient, and any R^n function (if differentiable) has a well defined gradient - so even for 1D it works.
1D is cute tho because partial derivative and gradient are the same thing.
But 2D and onward, nabla and partial derivatives start to be totally different
am i in some wrong server or something
No you're good
No I’m the one in the wrong server, usually 
It's just late for most and activity is slim so off topic convos tend to foster
tahts just
real
At this time discussion and off topic are the same
well this server is AUSTRALIAN i like to think
so
It's definitely mostly American like a lot of places
No
🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Recently been spending a lot of time in sk disc and most everyone there is US so that's my most fresh demographic pool
WAS THAT THE OLYMPICS
ja
i see
well
Yeah I remember that
the australian proportion in hkmain is really inflated compared to like everywhere else
but everyone is vic 🙁
yeh
gotta love australia
lol
yeah everyones literally in either vic or nsw
It probably is, but it's likely still mostly US
probably yeah
The superior state
lol
YES
didnt you have like 34 degrees the other day
yes...
LMAO
i had to play tennis that week
Yowza
its 22 for me rn im freezing
i have no idea i dont touch grass yet am still ass at this game
ass is very harsh
I'm in Alaska and we're like -20's -30's (C) rn lol
But that is as hit as it ever gets and it wasn't humid
is that a fucking negative sign
Yes
im wrapped in a blanket snug as a bug rn
its positive 22
well how good as in percentage wise do u reckon i would be by the stuff i have done
17 is the ideal temperature
I boil at 19 so blanket at 22 is insane to me
p5 is like 2-3%, radhog is harder than that
it'd be 2 max
it is really? theres no way
not radhog
i mean 2-3 percent
done p5
it might be like 3-4 i have a shocking memory
still
regardless its low and radhog is harder
id rather have 0 degree whether than 40
Same
def
I like colder than warmer
can add more clothing than you can take off
yeh ofc but i thought the hk community was a bit better then they are
whoever likes warmer over colder is just wrong
I don't know how many people have a 3 min or less PoP run but that's probably the rarest thing I've done
damn sunfall u ass
THX FOR REMINDING ME
well the better players are more likely to be active in the discord (which causes which, i dont know) so your perspective is gonna be a likttle skewed
/j
I know someone who's ideal temperature is 30
SHUTTUP
yeah their opinion is wrong
its just incorrect
i like mid 10 degrees
but if you go to a random hk player and ask if they've done p5 its gonna take you a hot minute. do the same in the discord and its still not quick but would be alot quicker
People who like extreme warmth are just coping
yeh definitley i see u @trim schooner grey fire chomp the list goes on
sumo hornet
yo youre not very active
how>?
joke
im the one on the right
NONE of my friends have beaten p5 and like 8 of them have played HK to completion. It's so frustrating not being able to talk about Shade Lord when its relevant.
r5, anyrad a few times, r04hog
namely r04hog
HOLY SHIT
TOUCH GRASS-
very good
Remind me what 04 is
old nail white spells all bindings
is he th e best of u all? or have u dont that
Gotcha
i think greyfire is the best
well im not gonna compare him and grey because thats a bit weird and also hard
but hes alot better than me
out of the 3 of us im by far the worst (me greyfire chomp)
so yes im the one on the right
but also alot less time so its inevitable
im on the one on right of the right one
yeah but i dont think taking time into account is good idea, not very scaleable
OMG
me me and uh mee
OMG
me myself and i
its not to scale but its to be reasonable with expectations
Honk shoo
me myself and u
your progress is ridiculously fast
lol
says the dude who did p5ab in less than 3 months
in lke 2 i think
WAT
bro lune got hk about the same time i did
it does p5ab is by far harder than 1.5x boundless infinity
r5 like 8 times
i think hes done r5ab but idk
nah not r5ab
o
quote @trim schooner " silkskong spoiler||lace 2|| is harder than boundless infinty hitless "
like 5 hits is their pb
guys can we all agree this is true
I know deep down within me I have the skill to do p5ab but I have not the willpower nor the respect toward p5
fair enough
ah, so that’s gradient, but are curl and divergence well defined for anything other than R^3?
yeah same
like if i really tried
i would be able to do it in a week or two maybe
Yup
but i do not have the mental capacity
ab is hard to get into because full gear is so much more fun
hey fellas
It's mostly the fact that I think p5 is awful that's keeping me from doing it
cant imagine p5ab
deep down ik i cant beat a speedrun on pop and sumbit it
how are we
good hbu
yo can we agree mmc is by far the hardest boss in the game
yes
harder than silksong spoiler ||lace 2||
I'm good, nothing like late night music
which is harder than ||boundless infinity||
I barely did the pantheons in the first place but PV tantalized me and then further, I couldn't complete RadHoG without hitting all the p5 exclusives. And by then, p5 win was right there within reach.
Hello guys
might be crazier than the mmc take
no joke tho ||lace 2|| was rough for me
I'm glad I did though
hardest boss for me outside of sk spoiler || act 3 ||
unironically took me a while to learn
ngl i struggled to ||lace 2|| more than the entirety of ||act 3||
😂
Rad mmc is so hard I definitely could never ever do it with an autoclicker
the only reason i was ever able to beat skong spoiler ||lace 2|| was because i camped top right corner
to bait out that 1 attack
lol i always walked forward, as soon as i saw i was able to i was like, alright we playin aggressive now
infinity when
it looked scary for me
yeah dont blame you
but in rab mmc it took a few tries purely because i wanted to 1 cycle and nothing else
my playstyle is
but its deceivingly hard to time the shade souls (or i suck)
nail only radabsrad when
I passed Pantheon 2)
gg 
I missed the entire other conversation but I'm not a fan of comparing players of different skillsets
if i lose 20 masks to land 1 hit
fair
WORTH
im not a fan of comparing players fullstop tbh
gg
@trim schooner i think u need this
I only rank people based on annoyance
im sorry
when im better at the game then we can start comparing players 
how do i get first place
something i would say
Good question
nice
am i ranked
Not yet
yet
How can we get our gratification if we don't compare to each other it's outrageous it's unfair
yet
Eheh, good question - divergence in 1D is still well defined, but it’s simply the derivative (gradient and divergence are equivalent).
Curl is… also well defined in 1D. However… it’s just 0 
lmaoo
grey for me is like #1 for most annoying but also #1 for most liked
sshadow strats hurt
That's the best place to be
grey is prob #1 most respected for me in the server
For curl to be non-trivial, you need to have at least 2D (and the curl vector will be oriented along the third, the zeta axis)
then its prob lune chomp and suscat
perfect chance for the dragon image
sun fall gets to be last
where is it
for me id give it to lune cause like when i first started he kinda carried me when i wass confused
mum im famous
😭
lunes goated but greyfire has got a W p5ab guide
ur also last
The other reason I don't like skill rankings is I don't think of myself as that good
So it feels weird to compare
lag on godseeker+ set to 1000
idk I'm never happy with runs I do
all wr speedruns
your guide is goated
0th place
ja
w take
WAT
/j
That guide is pretty good
make a video
nobody likes reading
radiance was easier
😭
i hate vengefly kings
I don't want to turn a 50 page document into video
lol
Effort and all that
Low key I think the most uh special thing I've ever done in HK is playing the game up to and including the Hornet 1 bossfight with uh no hands
ncie
15k words or something
WAT THE ACTUAL FUCK thats ALOT
very special
what is BI
im prolly autistic yea 😔
Do not go to hk gen
Boundless infinity
boundless infinity
modded boss
Snailed
ahhh
People posting times and saying is this good for a first run annoys me because the metric should be are you happy with that time
Real
It felt like a lot to write
i feel like its more than the first run time depends on how long you choose it to take
i mean without a benchmark how are they meant to know
i think most people ask because they have nothing to compare to
Oh SHOOT I learned snailing from this server didn't I
like they haven't had previous runs or anything
I've been doing that for years
They’ve always existed as far as I remember, and they always will 
Well the main thing comparing does is make you sad
whats snailing

yes untill u win
Unfortunately
When someone asks something and you're first you can be annoying and snail anyone who says the answer after you
It's good fun
also i think asking if the time is good might give them a goal to work towards
Even then there is always someone better to compare to
lol
almost always but yeh
First playthroughs I mean
oh for first playthroughs if you did it you should be happy
Exactly
im still onm y first playthrough
first part is done, how many bosses are there after hornet
That channel is hell 24/7 I'm not surprised
which pantheon
first
It's a good 9-12 year old trap
of wat p1?
ye
idk but about the same as the first half
Context assumes p1
youre about halfway through the fight
real
hog?
hall of gods
where is that
well its below p3 but
cough cough polargeist third coin
oh found it
It is very good to practice in
yes
I have more than 150h playtime only to realize that i can make the cyclone slash longer if i spammed attack button
Somewhere around the 600 mark is when I realized that
Just never really used it
i dont even use the nail master things, my brain cannot focus on that while trying to run
ive heard about it but i dont use nail arts anyways
Who's your favorite hollow knight character?
gues
where should i go
to ur shade
Wait are you saying guess?
gues
Uhhh
yes
Huh?
No ik who it is
ohk
I didn't look closely enough 😭
HMMMMmMM
its hornet
how did u edit so fast
One side of me wants to believe you, but the other side DOESN'T want too 😭
edit what
nah its pure vessel
this area sucksssssss
?
I love him too, but he ain't my fav, respectfully tho
i dont blame you
no thats fine
everyone has their preferences
kill
YO
to
SUNFALL
???
sorry wrong ping
Man I want to say the knight but I don't want to seem bland
trusst me u wont be bland
the most bland thing you can say is prolly hornet
Broken vessel and thk are tied for best character
not the wind
Aesthetically I really like Markoth
very respectful opinion
what wind
i saw that
saw what
Objectively any other opinion is WRONG
Yk what was cool, seeing the hollow knight before he grew up, when there was that one flashback
nah
pure vessel is goated
oh yeh
He was cool and cute at the same time
yeah
guys remember this meme during fireb0rn's speedruner vs hunter series?
I JUST SAW HIM.
WHERE?
In the room with the mushrooms who go WAAA.
The long room?
Yes.
Ok got it
im using that as my skin in hk
is there a lore reason why we start at kings pass and not abyss
because thats where the game starts
what
little ghost just returned from outside of hallownest
but ita makes no sense
Yall what did you guys got/bought for Christmas
how
Hollow Knight has no lore
shirt
the knight like
escaped from hallownest and lived outside it for a while
Cause knight comes from a different place
Remember he left hollow nest?
He came back
What kind of shirt?
that's why it starts a kings past
hallownest*
like a typical shirt
idk
Thank you 😭✌️
hollow knest
What’s a typical shirt
Does anyone want to see a doodle I did many many years ago of Markoth surfing on his dreamshield
its your average tshirt
Like just a white tshirt?
not tryna sound ungrateful but i wanted a gpu bracket for my pc for like 10 bucks idk but like a bunch of people gifted me shit that was worth a lot more. but the shit was shit
Ok this is a "hollow knight" channel, but is it wrong to feel that Silksong don't hit the same as the OG
nah its blue
no
i like hk more
Tuff
1 react is enough for me
Nice
Me too
because the dlcs arent out when they are then that might change
yea
but who know
Think I did this like 4 years ago at work lol
Blue is an superior color
yo i just realised thats markoth
Wait Silksong is getting dlcs????
actual W
i hope you overdose on fire reacts
yeah
wel not neccesarily a dlc but an expansion / content pack
its a dlc
no
