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Dream wielder is one of the most underrated charms in the game and I will die on that hill
GIVE ME A INTERESTING CHARM BUILD, I WILL BEAT RADIANT MANTIS LORDS WITH IT
I LOVE DREAMWIELDER
Joni's blessing
:no wait
glowing womb
U used ur chance
ESPECIALLY for the uumuu fight
wait actually yeah
It give you so much soul and you can spam it so fast all for one charm notch
You won't be dying 

It makes uumuu a complete joke
spell twister, quick slash, sharp shadow, shaman stone, steady body
Use joni's blessing alongside other people's choices pls
radiant absrad isnāt the worst imo
That's just a very good build
Finally someone who gives AN ACTUALLY GOOD BUILD
youāll get nuked in phase 1 though
Everyone tries to give me shit
I both love and hate this game
It's between her and markoth for most people
markoth is definitely the worst if you ask me
rad absrad is only harder because its long asf imo
though i can see why people say absrad is the worst
so they give you defender's crest? (get it? because it comes from dung defender? who throws literal...nvm)
Yeah the fight really drags on alot
sharp shadow is one of the worst charms in the game
only being better than stuff like glowing womb, which actively hinders you just for using it
use strength instead of steady body and shit shadow and it will be a good build
not ashamed to say that i used grimmchild for radkoth
absrad is easier to get lasered in than to get stabbed in markoth
I get it xd
And i am not good at all on 2nd phase
its shit too
dw
also markoth running into you and slapping you with his shield
i love sharp shadow, that's just me tho
Markoth is only hard bc he is so unbelievably random lol
maybe
we all do
i still have a lot to do in my main file so i'll probably switch my build up later on
heās only hard because thereās no mf floor
there is no use case scenario where i would use sharp shadow
it wastes 2 notches and can actually make you worse at the game
if he had a floor i wouldāve beat radkoth in under 10 minutes
Would have first tried it ngl
sharp shadow is the biggest noob trap besides quick focus
Well yes, the floor is the entire reason radkoth is hard
radkoth and rad absrad are difficult for completely different reasons
the rng is a big part of it too ig
If there were a floor most of the challenge of the fight would be obsolete
ngl
his dream shield is the thing that keeps hitting me in radkoth
especially in phase 2
rad absrad is bearable because she is fun
radkoth isn't fun
With a floor you could avoid it easier
i just find it convenient as i might as well deal damage with my i-frames, extra range MAY come in handy sometimes but i do think i'll probably drop it off at some point. i need to explore hk again tho because i only have like 9 charm notches
radkoth is literally the only rad i genuinely dont want to do because of how annoying it is
i swear
it feels like forever since i have been attempting radkoth
i genuinely still can't beat radkoth anymore
i am going insane
why does it feel like the hollow knight is easier than broken vessel
you havenāt beat him?
i can't
i really can't
he is driving me insane
i know what to do but i just keep getting hit one way or another
What are you struggling with most?
because the hollow knight is slow asf
Most satisfying moment Iāve ever had in hk was beating radiant abs rad and then radkoth first try right after
this is gonna sound weird but pogo tf outta him
and use grimmchild
true
it carried me istg
grimmchild is just bad advice for radkoth
Yup. At the start i pogo as much as possible and when i lose the flow i only attack him with nail arts
i don't know
i get hit by his dream shield the most
i also like get hit by his spikes a lot
i sometimes fall tho
Elegy is better for radkoth imo
im so serious though
i tried using it
it doesn't work for me
took me two weeks without grimmchild, when i put him on,first 10 minutes
dash slash is a blessing for radkoth too so nailmasters glory is great
You can be serious and also wrong
It worked for me
From my experience it's better to go shaman stone and soul eater instead of elegy ngl
Kinda
I farm around a full bar of soul at the beginning of the battle and spam elegy till phase two, dump a few shaman shade souls on him and continue using elegy till he dies
the best markoth strategy is just a spell build with nmg using nail arts until phase 2 then insta kill
just at least try, itll make getting to phase 2 MUCH easier
if i ever get to phase 2
which I can't
even if i do
things go wrong when my soul runs out
How so
i have to like perfectly align myself to keep hitting him
i can't while constantly dodging his spikes
You gotta learn to save soul. Also to get the most value out of your shade soul
You gotta learn when to hit him to get 2 hits instead of one cuz that makes a monstrous difference
is it a good idea to pogo radkoth in the first few seconds of the fight
throughout phase 1
itās the best way to attack him imo
Elegy goes through his dreamshield, try to move less when dodging like staying on one platform and moving left or right to dodge the nails
Itās the very beginning so you have nothing to loose, i would say so
i try to but every time i do i get molested by his dreamshield
well okay
donāt like stay on his ahh, mostly just when heās near the bottom and so is his shield
That is if you turn yourself into a damn wizard
with dreamshield theyre bearable ye
ehhhhh
wrong message mb
i still find them difficult because bullet hell is straight up bs
I just equip every soul and spell charm known to man and spam shade souls on them
Time for false knight
With soul catcher and soul eater it takes like 1-2 hits of the nail to get a shade souls
yeah spells are peak in radiant oblobbles
And it does so much kb with shaman stone they fly across the arena
ashamed to admit that radiant hive knight was harder than radiant oblobbles
i beat rad oblobbles with a nail build š
No 
I pretty much spammed my way through and got it
idk why i was so bad on hive knight
radhive knight is way easier than radoblobbles
Couldāve died at the end cause he did the bee vomit attack right before he died
omg i legit got ptsd from radwatchers
Rad watchers were really annoying
Vengeful spirit gotten
cool!
They always combo you with the roll+bounce
Watcher knights are fun what are y'all talking about
steelsoul 112, finally, took me 17 whole hours
massive W
Shade dash:
p5?
Fun on attuned and ascended but tedious on radiant
Exactly
yes i did p5 for the 112
ggs then
They're fun on radiant too imo.
sharp shadow makes rad watchers just a bit less difficult imo
Congrats
ehhhhhh
P5 doesn't count to 112 btw
everyone has their own opinion ig
it doesnt?
it doesnāt
Iāve ātechnicallyā beaten p5 first try
bragging rights though
but i only got the pure completion achievemtn after p5
Nah
i mean it only took me 1 try and 30 minutes so its fine
Cuz you have to beat the game while having 112
And by technically I mean i used my brothers save file to
Practice abs rad before beating p5 on my own file
And you did the p5 ending
ah, makes sense
I wonder if some day I should do the delicate flower ending
lowk going back to regular rad after absrad is so weird
absrad is only difficult in p5 because the nerves get to you around watcher knights, so it makes you make stupid mistakes
Real
Meaning you just wasted some time (but nevertheless gg on p5 steel soul)
imo
Sheās so slow
real
you have like 2 years to react to every attack
Regular rad just sits there and eats up abyss shrieks
ah, i dont really care. 1 hour that all the pantheons took me is nothing towards the other 16 lol
now do it blindfolded
So easy that the double damage feels forced to increase difficulty
yea they shouldve given the double damage to mmc instead obv
nahhh more like quad damage
Sometimes I like to purposely overcharm myself when fighting ascended nkg
8 masks of damage 
nahhh more like inf damage
doesnt matter if you do it hitless š¤
Sometimes I do get hit
ascended nkg is more fun than attuned for some reason
Thatās why I equip fury
just use ddark
Adds back some of the lost difficulty when you get so good at the fight
rad nkg is also fun to me
rad pv is top 3 most fun fights imo
I actually barely use ddark 
rad pv is dope asf
pv is so fun ā¤ļø
I think when I beat p5 I didnāt even use ddark once
my most fun was lost kin tbh
pv is goated asf
fair enough actually
not once does it feel like bs when you get hit or die
Is it a good idea to fight mawlek with 3 starting hp and no soul? š„
other than when you get hit by his stagger anim but still
yes trust
Iirc, the only time i ever used ddark when it wasnāt mandatory were on the kingsmoulds at the end of path of pain
Bet
nothing could go wrong
Pv is ānearlyā flawless
imo pv is extremely good,but itās also very glazed
both as a fight and as a vessel 
My only complaint with pv is the triple slash comes out a little too quick so I end up preemptively jumping before every single attack to avoid it
Idk why i struggled this time
Like a game of leapfrog
Chat I was wondering around the king station and found a part of the map that I haven't visited and after a bit of exploring I am now locked in a room with multiple bowling balls.
Am I cooked?
uhh
Is that something mandatory?
how even...
Does quick slash or strength give more dps?
Adapt
quick slash
quick slash i think
They ganging up on me and come rolling at me I don't know how to dodge.some are jumping some are rolling straight what the hell?
ddark time
watcher knights?
how do you not get the urge to spam ddark on dung defender
qs
Yeah the bowling balls
Face tank 
tbh the lost kin-white defender section between the watcher knights and soul tyrant sections is chill
insane š
GPZ is like the only boss i have to use ddark on
apart from that its just for fun i guess
i actually dont know how you dont ddark when the pv void tendrils come out
pogo
jump??
I never ddark in pv
you can just jump + monarch wings
I jump up and dash towards him and get a few pogos in
||Or I get hit
||
why did i never do that
yeah see i just jump -> ddark
it works...
also yippee free iframes
getting hit by pv in the big december smh
using ddark for i frames alone seems stupid to me
Iāve beaten him on radiant tho 
nahh
Ddark damage feels too niche for me to use
i use ddark for iframes a fair bit
i use ddark for nkgs flame pillar thingy
For rad absrad, it's very useful
I donāt see myself lining up to get every tick of damage in
idk maybe bc i'm coming from elden ring where i'm used to having iframes for relatively cheap
swag
Who needs i frames when you just dodge 
chat wanna guess my last hunters journal entry for hunters mark
who needs dodge when you can just iframe
Never used it 
see boss under me -> use ddark
Who
Stalking devout or flukemunga
Sugeetam new look again
i barely use spells anyways though
80% of the time they dash or teleport away
mine was the flying thing that shits spawns out in failed tramway
spells are op tho
The former š
yeah you still do like 50 damage with shaman on
Stalking devouts are worse than primal aspids
Wait it's correct?? Loll
i just prefer using nail and occasionally ddark
i also got those guys in col3 pretty late
guys i woke up with poison oak on my face : (
i save my soul for healing usually
lmao this is because you dont use ddark iframe to kill them
i used to hate devouts until i realised ddark trivialises them
volt twisters and death loodles
how
You can still use spells and nail did you know š³
Also, radiant oro and mato were really hard imo
without shade dash and with no soul 100%
but yeah ^
i have no idea, me and my brothers went hiking to the middle of nowhere yesterday
yeah but i mean as a primary dmg source
shade soul ftw
You can still use spells and nail š³
I get myself cornered a lot and then i get stuck in the center
wait do spells work when the devout is covering its face?
instead of having 2 dmg sources (nail + spell) i like having 1 dmg source (nail) and 1 healing source (the soul i didnt use)
I swear I always find one when I have no soul
did you know you can heal and cast spells !!!
they should
each spell you cast is one less heal
spell twister time
so not really
..
each spell you cast is 25/33 less heals
then the soul collection becomes less effective
Well if you use nail and spells the bosses die quicker and you probably wont have to heal more
so you might as well cast spells to use soul
Getting soul is so easy in hk
each heal you cast is 33/25 less spells
Massive moss charger couldāve been a semi-decent boss if it couldnāt be attacked from the front
though if i heal more i wont have to worry about my dmg output
its just different playstyles
ok but genuinely like
But instead we get a giant moving bag of soul
yea mmc is too hard they need to nerf it
Everyone should play like me
Buff the primal aspid by giving it a strap
you really should be trying to just kill the damn boss as fast as possible
otherwise you're going to struggle with radiant more
There really is no reason to not use spells
primal aspids should naturally spawn in absrad fight only in the pantheon
the end goal is boss dead, player alive. doesnt matter how you get there
sub 31 any%?
also did most radiants already
i mean nobody's stopping you from not using spells
it's just generally agreed it's less effective
I mean in a boss fight idk what that means
id put more emphasis on player alive
Radiant traitor lord took me way too long to do
Shouldāve taking five minutes when it took ten
oh as in
the any% nmg speedrun route now involves taking fury and then using nail only without taking any spells (including vs)
all the speedruns that are under 31 minutes use this route
This man deadass just walked into me once instead of charging or jumping
most dangerous attack in hk other than empty hop
I see
the walk of death
i used to skill issue on traitor lord in p4 before i sat down and learnt how to defeat him
cablechew is a jolly nature o:
Yea
he does that 
The vicious crawlid speeding its way to your location: 
oh yeah
I haven't played poke in forever but I still remember my natures a lil š
Sometimes he repositions himself to move closer or farther from you and so he just walked into me and I died
i had to just not do traitor lord on steel soul because i had a major skill issue
lost kin jumping to the other side of the galaxy to land on you: 
I hate it when bosses do this
Real
So many times when I was trying to radiant pv he just leaped across the arena and sat on me
Dishonourable mention to enraged guardian
80% of the bosses do this but lost kin spams that shit
I like enraged guardian though 
also base gpz
and of course it jumps to exactly where you will be
i swear the boss chooses when your rad attempt ends
like its innevitable
we're just bad at the game 
Bro can't understand us lower beings cause he probably fights with elegy and fury on every fight
I remember the first or second night of my hollow knight play through i had the unfortunate experience of fighting failed champion on 6 masks, one spell, one nail upgrade and only dash 
š¤
no
š
Is this why hornet tells us to git gud before radiance fight?
i think i did something similar on lost kin
was the first dream boss i tried
Wow...bro is so pro he doesn't even need fury bro just plays with one heart cause he can.
also the first boss i had to quit on
š«”
soul tyrant was my first dream boss
š¤
no
i thought that shit was a survival boss š
š¤
I didnāt even struggle on soul tyrant nearly as much as I did on failed champion
im so PRO
the 2nd hornet fight is just hornet testing if we're ready
I donāt even need COMPASS!
i thought you can only damage collector with spells
š
You thought you will win just by surviving?
how
Bro has transcended
No, you can damage him with anything, you just donāt get soul from hitting him
tbf when i first fought soul tyrant i was a noob so i didnt understand shit
Ok moistcritikal
I was embarrassed at how long it took me to realize that
mine was lost kin but i cheesed it with minions and defenders crest
that would actually be interesting, get soul from his spawns and dmg him with spells
Yea
And have him have like the same hp as uumuu
Recently I decided to unequip compass for my ultimate build but now I keep dying to even normal enemies.guess I should equip compass again
Soul tyrant was so easy because you can heal so much when he does his screenwide orb attack
i didnt do soul tyrant until much later so it wasnt too hard
Only probably was I was doing so little damage his first phase would take like ten minutes
At least you sound like you understand something.I still don't understand how I keep getting dmg even after the party was successful
š
probably contact dmg or something
like you parry the weapon but the enemy runs into you
Hmm... probably
I swear to god the knight has no rest.I mean he gets damaged even from touching other people.
š
neither does hornet. she takes double damage from everything and anything
Relatable
She is also weaker than knight.imagine her struggles.
i finally beat the game after 48 hours!
one must imagine the hornet happy
i still need to get the good ending though...
I want to explore as much as possible before waking up one dreamer.who knows what other map will get infected if I break one seal
am very mean rn.
only crossroads gets infected
pretend im saying mean things
yeah i also wanted to get every ability before beating the game
Sugeetam mean
Whenever I do that I see her surrounded by"awoo"(I forgot their name.
also crossroads can be infected before you even wake up a dreamer. that's what happened to me
when i do that i see sherma
crossroads also gets infected by getting monarch wings
I currently have 11 charms and now I am looking to make pure nail.already have one pale ore.need two more to go
Getting monarch wings
oh that must be why
Yeah I love her lovely song.I can't wait to play silksong and hear it in game
Guys i just started any tips?
shermas a he i think
i tried to get every charm until giving up after realizing i had to get the fucking voidheart charm
Give all your geo to a lady in fog canyon.
She will safe keep it
fight the sun
the bank bug?
Oh...thanks for telling me
she's a fraud
Yes
but if you do and she runs away
Nope she returns your money with simple interest
go to pleasure house in city of tears
You just have to find her
and you'll get it back + interest
sounds sus
Very interesting choices
It's pleasure house cause there is marissa.her song will bring pleasure and piece to your mind
is the path of pain in the white palace?
Yep I think
yes
its not required
It's optional
it is if i'm getting the voidheart charm
its behind a hidden breakable wall
no
oh
You have to go out of your way to do pop
you can do white palace without doing pop
anybody willing to gift me hk on steam please its on offer and i rlly wanna play modded hk appreciate it if u can
I DID IT I FUCKING DID IT
i would but my parents wouldn't let me
fair
i spent all my money on ghost yotei
Ggs
rip
nicee
holy shit deltarune spotted
is there a way to cheese radiant markoth
i genuinely can't with this mf anymore
an i not finding it in the wiki or does tiso legit doesnt have a icon
Wdym
he isnt there
Oh
made one anyways
tiso my 3rd goat
What's the best charm combination for path of pain
hivebood & literally anything else other than dashmaster
Well what did you use when u did path of pain
hiveblood, uheart and uhh i forgor
Villagers in minecraft op. I already got 32 emeralds just by selling clay
CAPITALISM
Ok I'll do my charm combo ig with hive blood
youre never in any rush to heal so i dont think quick focus is needed
well you do need some charms for the two kingsmoulds at the end
With a librarian and cartographer, you can get infinite emeralds through glass panes
And with two libearians you can buy bookshelves and sell the books
Just need enough soul to ddark spam tbh
You can also sell stone to a mason or any crop from a farm to a farmer
Pumpkins are the best
Rotten flesh to a cleric
You have to beat capitalism
Working on it, rn I got my stone mason to buy stone and diroite (idk how yk spell), I'm using stone rn as I have tons of cobble stone, but I'll definitely be mining for that diorite
not even you could just pogo on them until they die
You should build a pumpkin autofarm 
Wait... That could be true
Yeah they don't attack upwards...
Idk how, I don't do automation, plus I'm not ready to go to the nether yet, I'm in hard-core mode and bedrock mobs do more damage than java so I'm being extra careful
theyre like mantis warriors on steroids you can cheese them the exact same way
I think I'll get diamond armour or smth before going to the nether, or I can get a farmer to buy potatoes cuz I can grow them in bulk
Well, when you do go to the nether, the farm is super simple
Pumpkin stem dirt
Observer piston
Redstone block
It can be in any direction just make sure the pumpkin grows into the dirt
Genio minecraft pro
And a hopper Minecart underneath
True!
Aye, I'll save that to my clipboard and into a data Base for later
Genio mc pro
I like doing redstone and farms a bit
I've done some cool machines but nothing too crazy
I LOVE redstone
Redstone is all i play mc for anymore
Anyhow
I like farming traditionally, yk, large flat lands with tons of potatoes
Food and money
If im 2 blocks underground on the main end island am i invincible
Oh fun fact: crops grow faster if you alternate rows of crops
Potato carrot potato carrot
Potato carrot potato carrot
The guy right from colloseum of fools... why is he not in the pantheons?...
because he isnt a boss
he ISNT?!
Ik, I just prefer to grow one crop cuz idc if it grows faster, as long as I can sell it and eat what's left, after replanting ofc
But carrots are cool too!
more boss like than boring ol gruz mother
Genio HATES me
And you can make golden carrots
at least gruz mother has a title card
I'll take gruz mother over pale lurker or wtv its name is
pale lurker is more boss like than soul warrior
The dragon doesn't go that low and you need direct like of sight for breath balls
but anything is more boss like than soul warrior so eh
What about 1?
Well go 3 and cover it
Soul warrior is infinitely more fun than pale lurker tho
people are talking about 3d terraria wtf
If the dragon can see you you'll get bombed
I got a dude who buys carrots, and I got a few from zombie drops and raiding another nearby village, but the land I live on is hilly so that's a ton of clearing that I'm too lazy to do, or I can go down to the nearby ocean and place dirt along there so water is no issue and plenty of land
Well yes but like im asking
Block
Player
Or 2 blocks underground is
Block
Block
Player
Block is all you need
Player
well at least you fight soul warrior more than once
Peak
tbh he appears so many times he feels like a normal enemy instead of a boss
True but it's shit
Pale lurker
I'm running low on coal, but there's a forest of cherry blossoms... time for mass deforestation !!!
500 pale lurkers
Once cherry blossoms are gone I'll start farming oak
Maybe you could consider another fuel supply
The new leaf litter is op
500 pale lurkers vs 1 soul warrior
And deforestation becomes for business
I usually do but I can't even use the flowers in the cherry blossom forest, and I got 8 stacks of em
I love carpet duping 
I use charcoal cuz it's technically renewable
Use lava
Yeah those flowers are stinky
Questionable
True!
Except TNT duping
They very pretty tho, ima put them around my house
True!
That is super duper cool and amazing
I knew genio is based
lowk why soul warrior aurafarming in his godhome statue like hes tuff š
Anyways I'm outta logs, so time to mass deforest the cherry blossoms
My beautiful tree farm would be cooked otherwise
i think orbital cannons are also amazing
Well almost all items are fully renewable
Lol
Well like 80% of the forest is still here, Im just gonna leave trees with bees in them cuz honey is a good emergency food source
Im having brain damage
Is that the guy who steals content or the most genius redstoner ever
One of the most genius redstoners ever
My initial thought was correct
rays works is goated
You don't have silk touch yet?
Sometimes im scrolling shorts and i get like "rays works just made another insane machine" thats how i know him lol
Does shulkercraft still steal shit or is he moved on from that
Not at all, cuz I'm still early game, I'm literally playing bedrock, I strip mine cuz caves are suicide, I'm literally on day 16, and villagers were not on my to do list till now cuz I had no food or shelter or bed(s)
You don't have sheep?
š
Also shelter
It's called digging a hole underground 
Jolly
Levi
Marmu
Roma
Nah I just killed sheep and made a bed, I live in my mine rn
When lm68
Never
I am SO MAD at the queen's garden
I hear skellys
Lm68 would be difficulty 1000000/10
I've been ambushed, went to go kill a skeleton and 2 appeared behind me
Te-ano I don't like it here
Scary
markoth is the worst boss ever made in the history of gaming
Problem solved but I hear creepers and skeletons in the trees, this is why I burn it down or deforest it, it's dangerous
I'm also mortally wounded
3 hearts
So ima sit in my mine and heal rq
Dig yourself in a hole and eat whatever you have
I'm in my mine, I always got food on me, and if I don't I keep extra in the chests at the top of my mine where there's a hed, crafting table, furance, and the lot, also got logs and planks down here for extended stays
I might be over prepared
I'm not starting a raid, not without walls at least, and I'm not prepared
Boat spam 
When low on food I just go kill animals, they respawn unlike java
Rn I'm resupplying for my mining
Re supplying food, pixaxesz extra pickaxes, stuff to make new pickaxes, a clock to know when it's day or night, extra food, emergency food, I'm just very over prepared
Should I fight the mantis lords if I have 6 lives
Yes
why do u have lives
confusion
The little beads things that one disappear if you get hit idk the name
geo
No not the currency
oh wait u mean masks
mask?
Is it like Zelda hearts?
never thought of a mask as a life before huh
Well idk what the games call it
somewhat? u cant lose half of them
yep
?
Then ig I meant masks
u lose half of them in a zelda game?
Cuz I have six now
You can take 1/2 or 1/4 damage
yee I haven't played a zelda game in a hot min so I forgot abt that
so how'd that go for ya
Oops
Wasnt too bad
Cuh
if I may inquire, how does thou, yknow?
asking for a friend
Speak english.
that was english, just old english ._.
That's as English as it gets
that entire sentence is english
How about learn English buddy!
I failed my eng exams anyways
Theres no point
we needa learn all the englishs
damn
Wait till the oldest version of english
fuck english
Technically still modern English but eh technicalities
Hi alp
any other language >>> english
RadHoG soon?
Chinese
yes
Well I wouldn't say soon but š
Thats why hk speedrunners use chinese
check my bio
I got faith
Thank you king šāāļø
So i know one SINGLE language and you managed to insult it 
Learn a new one ā¼ļø
iām sorry but english sucks
I know 4 
That's where English got all of its vices from 
Relight that lamp
English is a hot mess of languages, so if English sucks, blame the French, Spanish, Polish, and every romance language
English is the language I'm the most fluent at because its the language in which I consume most of my literature
you mean fluent in?
You mean lantin language?
Do you use something specific to learn them, or a collation of resources?
You're right šāāļø
well bc I grew up with english and my parents didn't bother teaching me another language at the same time now im just kinda stuck
yes, thats what the Romance Languages are
bc english is horrible and takes up all my memory
theres 3 bosses that HoG doesnt cover
not necessary for the game, but yes
Thats not a mod
I grew up watching cartoons in different languages, sorry mate, I got no advice š
its so over
haha wow fair enough
romance languages are languages that stem from latin
But if you wanna learn german, Deutsch Welle is an amazing resource
for other languages, I'm not sure
i'll keep it in mind, thanks nonetheless
just whatever you do, don't use Duolingo
FIlthy Vulgar Latin derivatives š
Yeah its hot garbage
I fell for that trap a while ago dont worry
vulgar latin is a myth
duolingo just a game not actual learning
derivatives!
they stem from latin, period
math!
no math
:(
i used anki notes for words but didnt know what to do for letters, pronounciation or grammar
Its literally just common spoken latin instead of formal latin š
the only real method to learn a language is comprehensible input
How's that a myth
because they donāt stem from āinformalā latin. they stem from local dialects of latin that were used in formal settings as well
Like podcasts?
Yeah, those spoken dialects were called Vulgar Latin
Or weaker
standardized latin is as much of a constructed language as āhigh germanā or āitalianā today
thatās not true, no
They're all great, but you gotta supplement that with conversation with native speakers
hiii alp
not really..?
It literally is? :Sob
Is comprehensible input where you like intake information at a comprehension level slightly above yours
ye
To be conversationally good, you have to hold conversations š«©
Hacı BektaŠVeli
Made me look it up just to make sure, but https://www.britannica.com/topic/Vulgar-Latin
speaking a language doesnāt necessarily mean that you are a great conversation part. depending on your goals, yes, you will have to get comfortable with talking to people, but you definitely donāt need that to get better at understanding e.g. academic papers
britannica moment :o
the site that all my schools have told me is the only good source I'll ever find for some reason
Because its an encyclopedia and a well regarded one at that, beats wikipedia because unlike wikipedia, not everyone can just edit pages
Its a good source 
Wikipedia does have that fault but it is so overhated
true, but isn't there some crazy screening process that goes on with a wild amount of volunteer editors on wikipedia
Its not overhated, no one hates wikipedia
Its just not cited as an academic source because it isn't an academic source
For all other intents and purposes, its absolutely fine to get your information from wikipedia
Fair enough, maybe hated wasnt the right word
like is my info on this wrong orr ._.
But schools do treat it like the plague without specifying only for assignment crediting
I think thats true for most pages on it, though not the minor ones
If you wanna cite information from wikipedia, just cite the sources that wiki itself cited
works just fine tbh
ohh I see interesting
your own source says that vulgar latin can mean three different things that arenāt comparable whatsoever
ohh that makes sense
though there are fanatics who will keep it correct
kinda like how citing "google" isn't a proper citation
itās an imprecise term that is no longer being used because of itās lack of actual meaning
hence itās a myth
Anyways im going to sleep gn everyone
gn lune :D
My own source says that Vulgar Latin refers to the non-Classical spoken Latin from which the Romance languages evolved. And contrary to your claim, is not a myth
pls read
"Later Latin (from the 3rd century ce onward) is often called Vulgar Latināa confusing term in that it can designate the popular Latin of all periods and is sometimes also used for so-called Proto-Romance (roman commun), a theoretical construct based on consistent similarities among all or most Romance languages. All three senses of the term Vulgar Latin in fact share common features but, given their different theoretical status, can hardly be called identical or even comparable"
Well lol
weād say āpeople that can read clearly have an advantageā in german :p
the very first line
sure
Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil š
no point arguing with a person that refuses to read their own source beyond the first line lol
My source doesn't contradic what I said though, while all three senses can't be compared, they're still spoken forms diverging from classic latin. Popularly used to define everyday speech. The other definition being Later Latin, where spoken Latin diverged strongly from Classical norms. Finally the third definition is just a reconstructed language. None of these affirm your claim that spoken latin is a myth
In any way shape or form
spoken latin⦠isnāt a myth? that wasnāt the claim?
Vulgar Latin, my bad
But my point stands
vulgar latin as the predecessor to all romance languages is a myth
idk what to tell you
But all romance languages DO descend from non-classic, spoken latin, which was conventionally labelled Vulgar Latin
I'd agree with the idea that a single unified Vulgar Latin is a myth, because its not. But the dialectic forms of spoken latin were referred to as Vulgar Latin, and romance languages are derivatives of that
were and was
yes, i did say that they come from local dialects of latin
no, itās still incorrect/useless to say they all stem from āvulgar latinā. incorrect if you mean they come from the same ālanguageā(/dialect) and meaningless if you mean that they come from local dialects because then the term itself isnāt helpful at all
incorrect and useless aren't the same thing ._.
or maybe I misinterpreted that /
/'s are weird tbh
i gave explanations for both sequentially
incorrect if, useless if
ah
Regardless of if the term was helpful or not, dialectic forms of the spoken language were still called Vulgar Latin.
ohh so it's a myth bc the term "vulgar latin" in and of itself just isn't a practical term and doesn't function as it's supposed to
were
not are
That aside, I do see your point, this was a nice conversation
they are not anymore
yeah exactly
the idea of āvulgar latinā initially came from the observation that romance languages are much closer to each other than they are to latin
but as we found out more, we tweaked our theories until, at some point, the term āvulgar latinā fell out of favor because it didnāt fit the theory anymore
you know
as you do in the scientific method
Your mother is Vulgar Latin
ye that makes sense
Iām hungry
real
That I didn't know, woah
I think that's what he was tryna explain the entire time no offense
that was the crux of my argument š
Clearly didnāt explain well enough sounds like a skill issue
I can honestly relate tho I've certainly done that a couple times where I completely missed a person's entire point while trying to debate with them lol
No but all you said was "were not are" twice š
Yeah letās just agree that alp is wrong and move on
lmao
I still don't mind cuz if I can take anything at all away from an argument, its a net positive

very true
Whatās the point of arguing if you donāt win I guess I just donāt know what itās like since I always win my arguments
Even if I donāt know what Iām arguing about
Yeah sorry I got here late Iād have ended the argument earlier if I was here
I said one thing, left, and then came back to the same thing I left from
or at least I think the history of languages falls under etymology
Etymology is the study of the origin of words
History of Languages is probably Linguisitc History or smth
still pretty interesting tho
well there you go
yee :D
anybody know where to go after ||mantis claw||?
im at pure vessel in p5. wish me luck guys
IM AT THE LAST PART OF PATH OF PAIN
Probably pv
bouta fight radiance, what do you think of my charm build
absolutely abyssmal build
hydrogen bomb vs hydrogen bomb
No wayward compass?
anybody pls tell me where to find mantis boss after ||mantis claw||
bottom of village
how to get there? (mb map pls)
i dont have image perms i dont think
js go down
i tried, looked on the map but i cant find the entrance down
u need to hit a lever
i love how you can kill sly phase 2 with 2 vengeful spirits
idk why everyone has problems with him
He is so fast
its hard to get soul
what
do i need shaman stone?
yes
im gonna do that thanks
when he walks away from his spin in the air you shoot an spirits and him him 2 times if lucky 3 times
thx
cause you hit him and when he dahses away you hit him again
and sometimes he even dashes again to get hit a third time
i can see why thatsa problem for some tbh
shade soul or spirit
I HATE PATH OF PAIN
wdym shade soul
i love it
vengeful spirit upgrade
its fun
I WANT TO QUIT BUT IM SCARED I WILL LOSE MY PROGRESS
whats your build
i dont know what youre trying to say im sorryš
NEVER GIVE UP
you should use quick slash
I WNANA DO SMTH ELES
oh yea have that equipped to
oh alr
you will
are u in the last part?
THATS THE PROBLEM
I AM
JUST DO IT IK ITS HARD BUT ITS ALSO FUN
I CANT
IVE BEEN GRINDING MY BUTT OF
aight thoughts on this
ITS TOOK ME AN HOUR TO DO THE LAST PART
Ye
not reading allatšš
its a good thing i wasnt asking for your opinion then
i wasnt trying to be mean : (
ok i found where we were nvm i was so confused we were in hk gen
and its not even the hard bosses i struggle at
The Hunter is a stoner in his free time.
Looks pretty good, maybe dashmaster gets a lategame upgrade for updash so it doesn't break progression tho
Would be neat if thorns had some sort of immobilizing/stun effect on struck enemies
Also I've always thought it'd be really cool if dshield was like 2 notches and gave an invincibility bubble for a couple seconds after landing a dnail
I really like the balancing tho
No shaman boost for ddark is pretty fair, lol
And the nmg buffs are sick, I really like narts, anything that'd increase nart viability is a win in my book
should i practice bosses attuned hitless or straight radiant
due to the p5 bosses having attuned hp
neither
do ascended
knowing when to heal is a very useful skill for p5
I'd practice attuned unless it's a boss with an ascended arena
I think godseeker+ with ascended arena & attuned hp is best tho
nonono
im practicing R5
What nail update is the good for the deepnest the
What
a bad descion has been made
i quit path of pain
at the last part
How tf do I beat pv 5 times in a row but canāt beat him in p5
Dw itās not gonna take too long to go back now
i hope so
And a big part can be skipped now bc you only had to do it to open a gate
And it stays open if you saved the game
Ć
nerves
How do I play the game hollow knight silksong on the phone?
Piracy
god i hate seconmd hornet
it isnāt available rn but there will probably be steam link support at some point since the first hk game has it
WHY THE FUCK IS FINAL STAGE GRIMMCHILD LOCKED BEHIND NKG
Guys is 3800+ geo a lot early game? :3
define early game
how far thru are you
Reached city of tears
which other areas are you at
anyone know a bug to like make me invincible or some shit while fighting nkg?
Fungal wastes, deepnest, greenpath, forgotten crossroads
And CoT
grimmchild isnt that good of a charm anyway, if youre trying to beat nkg for that only then just stop
but i want grimmchild not because its meta, i want a viable little pet that can do some extra damage
grimmchild misses like half of the time
my goal is not to throw on strength, quickslash, shaman and grubsong but to make a fun build
if you want tips for a charm setup then i recommend quick focus instead of shaman stone
i want to have a little grimm fly next to me
Should i go to salubra with 1575 geo? I bought lantern and mask shard at sly and now i have 6 masks
yes
yea
Ok
salubra has some decent charms as well as the best one in the game
do you have shaman stone already?
get shaman stone
like second best
No, what's that?
spell boost
charm from salubra, 220 geo, many people (myself included) consider it to be the best charm in the game because it increases spell damage by 50%
the best are 1. wayward compass 2. unbreakable strength



