hk-discussion

[shrewd nymph]

i'll have to find the video

[rare aurora]

and too lazy to look at the code

[wicked kiln]

But i think everyone who fought the boss 3 times

Could have a little brain

To realise a pattern

[shrewd nymph]

Theyre a boss that newer players dislike

[foggy sable]

it took too long to figure out the pattern

[shrewd nymph]

Same way they like nkg

[shrewd nymph]

but i dont use the rotating pattern in first phase bc its slow

[rare aurora]

hEs LiKe A dAnCe

[shrewd nymph]

Lmfao

The same 5 songs on the radio station

[onyx wigeon]

you are like a dance

I lost my balls to them

[wicked kiln]

I would put PV at like favourites maybe really enjoyable but tbh this si thw best list my eyes have ever looked at

[shrewd nymph]

[shrewd nymph]

Greys pv hate is prejudice tbh

[wicked kiln]

Im crine😭😭😭

[earnest widget]

What does beating traitor lord even give you

[foggy sable]

no, it is real and fair

[subtle glacier]

postjudice

[wicked kiln]

This also pmo so hard

[shrewd nymph]

Half a charm

[earnest widget]

A grub and part of kingsoul, right?

[wicked kiln]

It aint even like a dance tbh

[foggy sable]

this is the best tierlist is a new one

[wicked kiln]

Sisters of battle is more like a dance than nkg

[shrewd nymph]

the grub isnt after tl

[earnest widget]

It's not?

[shrewd nymph]

Let a man cope

[foggy sable]

sisters would be lower if I remade the list

[rare aurora]

hornet 2 not in s+ tier
f tier tierlist

[vivid creek]

👍

[foggy sable]

I made it before the most recent incident

[shrewd nymph]

The entrance for it is way below you

[foggy sable]

right side attack cancel things

[wicked kiln]

Hornet 2 is dogshit

Honestly

[vivid creek]

Arena is so jank

[foggy sable]

also parries are annoying

[rare aurora]

f tier opinion i don't make the rules

[shrewd nymph]

The longer i look the more im confused

[foggy sable]

no

[vivid creek]

Oh yea?

[shrewd nymph]

Im not gonna acknowledge the bottom tier

But how is fragile heart above unbr heart 😭

[onyx wigeon]

Twister in Strong
Catcher in Niche

[wicked kiln]

Yeah imma make a tierlist what is this

[rare aurora]

i can't tell if quick focus not being in busted is meant to be a joke or not

[vivid creek]

More like mediocre
11 nail hits to get enough soul for one spell

[foggy sable]

quick focus ans stalwart is so op

[shrewd nymph]

Is it strength level??

[rare aurora]

yes

[onyx wigeon]

more irritating than people calling skill issues

[shrewd nymph]

i have it top of A because it scales inversely with skill for the most part

[foggy sable]

you can outheal the i frames of getting hit

[shrewd nymph]

Whereas strength is good for everyone that uses a nail

[rare aurora]

quick focus breaks the game

you just don't die

[onyx wigeon]

I don't have nails

[rare aurora]

it opens so many opportunities for healing

[ashen ginkgo]

ok alp

[shrewd nymph]

But its redundant when you're super good so surely that loses it points

[rare aurora]

why would it

[hot moon]

Ikr

[rare aurora]

it remains busted

for endurance runs that aren't meant to be hitless, a good player should also consider qf

[ashen ginkgo]

It’s a good charm but a busted charm is good in any situation

[hollow dragon]

yeah heal builds suffer from being heal builds
if you're too good, you don't use them

[foggy sable]

if you are trying to make an objective tierlist it should be very high

[rare aurora]

eternal ordeal runs use qf as well

[shrewd nymph]

I have it top of A and super underrated but idk about busted

[hot moon]

Charm tier list discussion incident #28273828 it never gets old

[shrewd nymph]

Missing a 0

[rare aurora]

qf is good in any situation

[foggy sable]

it is nice to meet another qf enjoyer I recommend it to people for p5

[lone laurel]

I feel like Quick Focus’ viability deteriorates depending on if you’re either running for a more Damage build, or if you’re simply good enough at evasion that Healing is unnecessary.

[foggy sable]

but then everyone says no

[shrewd nymph]

If i get hit once during a boss fight is it good

[ashen ginkgo]

A truly busted charm is good in any situation at any point of the game therefore the only truly busted charm is quickslash

[rare aurora]

if you don't use spells is shaman good

[shrewd nymph]

Thats assuming you're limiting yourself, qfocus is assuming you are

[ashen ginkgo]

Wrong reply

Whoops

[foggy sable]

saying the same things I do I'm so happy

[ashen ginkgo]

Meant to reply to myself

[sand shore]

is there any seperate discussion channel for silksong? or only this?

[shrewd nymph]

The shaman and spell analogy is like saying strength is bad if you dont use anything but grimmchild

[ashen ginkgo]

Look at channel list

[lone laurel]

I feel like Quick Focus helps a lot in the Pantheons, since you have to go through a multitude of Bosses with no downtime between fights. Being able to more reliably Heal helps to ensure chip Damage accumulating does not eventually wear you down.

[shrewd nymph]

You gotta assume the player is playing with a functional brain

[shrewd nymph]

#sk-discussion #hk-general

[rare aurora]

unless you are limiting yourself to runs that have to be hitless, qf is a net benefit and all but guarantees your victory if you know how to abuse it

[foggy sable]

I think you assume people are going for hitless

rather than just p5 and things like that

[shrewd nymph]

Im not saying it isnt a net benefit but the magnitude of the benefit decreases as you improve

same way fury increases

And flukes

[hot moon]

what? "unless you are limiting yourself by being good at the game"

??

only for genius

[wicked kiln]

Im back

[shrewd nymph]

i just cant have it on strength level at all

[shrewd nymph]

Strength is always busted for all players

[ashen ginkgo]

Which makes it a good, perhaps great charm
But not a busted charm

[shrewd nymph]

That use their nail

[hot moon]

its on strength level if ur a noob

[hot moon]

crutch charm

[ashen ginkgo]

Qs >

[rare aurora]

we are talking about a charm that decreases the difficulty of the game by magnitudes due to how strong it is

[vivid creek]

Also we had this convo before
It's mainly due to steel soul

I'm considering removing the fragile charms just to reduce confusion tho

[shrewd nymph]

Eh its still super strong

[pliant bough]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-hug-bnuuy-void-eyes-emoji-eyes-roll-gif-14185954852647646369

[earnest widget]

What???

[vernal knot]

Revving it up

[hot moon]

yea strength definitely makes the game more easy than quick focus

[shrewd nymph]

And so does strength but one does it 100% of the time and one only if you arent super good

[foggy sable]

put on qf and shell and you are practically invulnerable

[zealous skiff]

"crutch" is such a lame excuse to call a charm bad, normally people can "overcome" crutches really quickly

[rare aurora]

healing is the strongest mechanic in the game, and qf is a substantial buff to that mechanic

[lone laurel]

I wouldn’t say Sharp Shadow is directly inhibiting. It helps a lot since free Damage and the upped horizontal mobility can help in many cases.

[shrewd nymph]

i love qfocus and its so underrated

[foggy sable]

it might be the most busted thing in the game

[shrewd nymph]

But strength is on another level

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-desert-speed-idiot-mario-bros-wii-gif-4579521032062283911

[wicked kiln]

What does crutch mean

[pliant bough]

note that i didnt look at the.list 🐈

[zealous skiff]

so based in true sharp shadow is so goated

[earnest widget]

Being capable of doing stuff hitless doesn't mean doing them hitless is not a limitation

[shrewd nymph]

You rely on it, like crutches

[gentle pilot]

❤️

[onyx wigeon]

poke

[wicked kiln]

Ahh

[hot moon]

god i love having jonis blessing and hiveblud and shell and quick focus

[shrewd nymph]

'Free damage' in sshadow is a myth

[hot moon]

my boss dies in 15 minutes

but its op

i swear ok?

[onyx wigeon]

Sharp Shadow is free damage

it's true

[gentle pilot]

who needs quick focus when you have hiveblood 👀

[rare aurora]

arguing in bad faith, yltsi

[shrewd nymph]

So is toa isnt it sisgaajs

[lone laurel]

Main downside to Sharp Shadow is, for how great it is in combat, it is atrocious in platforming segments. Do not bring this thing into the Crystal Peak or White Palace or you will suffer.

[hot moon]

wtf is yltsi

im scrying

[rare aurora]

google it

[shrewd nymph]

Can we get an explanation for what that means

[zealous skiff]

something that helps in the short term but creates bad habits or muscle mem in the long term e.g people getting used to mop and then struggling when they takr it off

[gentle pilot]

q2872dna8n7wd

😭

[earnest widget]

I love having shaman stone while doing no spell

[pliant bough]

chomp

[hot moon]

i have shaman stone while d oing spell

beat that

[rare aurora]

you love to see it

[shrewd nymph]

I know the perfect charm that explains that...

[zealous skiff]

i feel like the concept of a crutch little silly tho cus you can just, get used to things

[gentle pilot]

fellas talking about healing when hiveblood will do it for you 👀

[zealous skiff]

nadia

fishcat

[hot moon]

bro just run jonis blessing

bum

:joy-cat

[gentle pilot]

ur right

[wicked kiln]

Ohhhhh but can u not just idk stick to it? Yk just keep with the playstile why chamge it

[shrewd nymph]

Qfocus = heal
Hiveblood = heal AND fight at same time

Which is better

[ashen ginkgo]

grubsong my beloathed

[gentle pilot]

grubsong

[zealous skiff]

so ture bsody is such a crutch

[hot moon]

qfocus = takes up my quick slash charm

[gentle pilot]

ture

[hot moon]

hiveblood = takes up my quick slash charm

i will use neither!

[shrewd nymph]

Chomp you've taken like 5 years off my lifespan

[hot moon]

WAIT guys

[zealous skiff]

norbert

[foggy sable]

I mean its kinda true

[ashen ginkgo]

chmomply

[hot moon]

quick focus PLUS kings soul combo

it gives u soul

[zealous skiff]

which end of your life

[ashen ginkgo]

I don’t have a mossy boop

[hot moon]

and u heal fast

op?

lmk

[shrewd nymph]

It is but there a better example

[foggy sable]

not really

[ashen ginkgo]

👈

Boop!

[lone laurel]

I would’t say Mark of Pride is a crutch Charm. It mostly just helps a lot for poking enemies who are normally hard to hit or are particularly jumpy, I.E. Soul Twisters/Loodles, and dealing with Bosses like Soul Master/Tyrant, most of the Dream Warriors, Oblobbles, and the Radiance.

[shrewd nymph]

Like 40-45 and then i resume at 46

[shrewd nymph]

Crutch ≠ bad

[ashen ginkgo]

That’s not my server where did you get that emoji

[rare aurora]

"crutch" gets overused in the hk community anyway. it used to be hip and cool to call sbody a crutch some 5 years ago, then it became hip and cool to call mop a crutch

[foggy sable]

you are assuming the end point of charms to be hitless and therefore don't value qf

[hot moon]

chud != foid

[zealous skiff]

i don't, I legitimately just think qs no sbody is just shit, can't combo can't stay still and often leads to people playing extremely passively to compensate

[hot moon]

what?

[shrewd nymph]

[hot moon]

JOLIKUSKFDNMHD

[zealous skiff]

I screenshotted it then added it to my own

[gentle pilot]

why is he correct

[rare aurora]

now that is a hot take

[ashen ginkgo]

[lone laurel]

Like it makes your Range bigger but it’s not like it’s that major of an alteration, you just have more openings to hit certain foes that would not exist otherwise.

[hot moon]

i dont wanna be that guy but thats just a skill issue man

UJDOFHN

[zealous skiff]

*shit compared to with sbody

[shrewd nymph]

Well shit is a bit harsh but yeah

[hushed solstice]

Damn I beat radiant pure vessel and ascended nkg

[foggy sable]

I don't play qs no sbody

[shrewd nymph]

If chomp has a skill issue what are we

[hot moon]

whats ur charm build bro lmk

[foggy sable]

I just take qs off at that point

[ashen ginkgo]

tbh everyone should run qs no sbody with heavy blow

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[rare aurora]

qs without sbody is perfectly fine idk

[hot moon]

who bro

😭😭

[shrewd nymph]

[zealous skiff]

its still good but like if other charms were buffed a bit and qs was 4 notch it would be balanced

[hot moon]

[rare aurora]

lune you are wasting your time with him lol

[shrewd nymph]

Thats the whole point of discord is it nott

[foggy sable]

but for when I do things like old nail only collector I put on qf and stalwart

[hot moon]

those who waste they time 💀

[hot moon]

adsgkjnluhbxc

[zealous skiff]

i have a skill issue because I observe other people use no sbiody qs, have played no sbody qs and think its bad

[shrewd nymph]

Bad is very harsh

[pliant bough]

the point is to play GD

[shrewd nymph]

gd is bad

[hot moon]

yes you havea skill issue because i play no sbody quickslash and i perform completely fine and its just as broken because i knmow how to play well with it

so

yea

[shrewd nymph]

Upside down ship messes with my brain

[foggy sable]

chomp is right no sbody qs is a bit unplayable

[zealous skiff]

qs sbody shamans strength mop most of the time and if no oc i replace mop with grubsong'

[hot moon]

have we gotten out of greenpath

bro

[lone laurel]

My general use Charm build is Strength, Mark of Pride, Shaman Stone, and Sharp Shadow.

[foggy sable]

you hit yourself out of reach and dps is pretty much the same as no qs

[ashen ginkgo]

Have you ever used it with Sbody
Cause if not your viewpoint is unreliable

[rare aurora]

btw grey(?), fire(?), idk if you care but milky is also a qf connoisseur

[hot moon]

walk up to the boss

[wicked kiln]

I feel you😭😭😭

[gentle pilot]

thats tuff

[shrewd nymph]

Who is that?

[hot moon]

of course ive used it with sbody and i dont think its necessary its just as good without it because i can walk up to the boss 😭 hello

[zealous skiff]

you perform completely fine on your own assessment after never trying sbody qs for an extended period of time

[rare aurora]

first person to beat p5ab

[hot moon]

youre saying nothing

[shrewd nymph]

Ohh sick

[foggy sable]

you hit the boss out of reach

[naive sonnet]

steady body would absolutely kill my muscle memory for little gain i feel like i would actively hate having it on

[lone laurel]

Essentially I just maximize doing as much Damage as I feasibly can while also having the safety of increased attack Range and being able to hit enemies with my Iframes.

[shrewd nymph]

I have a feeling theyre either not good at the game, baiting, or both

[zealous skiff]

it is weird to get used to no mop because you'll miss pogos etc for like a bit

[wicked kiln]

Is this ragebait

[ashen ginkgo]

@rare aurora rate my card

[zealous skiff]

but you can get used to anything

[zealous skiff]

your reading nothing then

[shrewd nymph]

What game is that

[hot moon]

"i dont think a charm is bad because i can use it properly"

yeah bro thats ragebait

[rare aurora]

don't fall for the bait chomp

[ashen ginkgo]

Magic: the gathering

[shrewd nymph]

Oh shit thats sick

[foggy sable]

also MoP is a top 5 charm imo

[lone laurel]

Eh yeah but it takes a few minutes at most to pivot between the muscle memory.

[rare aurora]

magic/10

[ashen ginkgo]

One of the newer sets, edge of eternities

[ashen ginkgo]

True!

[zealous skiff]

between this or unknown (garbage rng gd level) lowk idk which is better

[wicked kiln]

Thats LITTERALY a reasonable sentwnce wtf

[ashen ginkgo]

I also go this one

[rare aurora]

hop physics

[naive sonnet]

mark of pride is sick

[foggy sable]

wait I know you @lone laurel aren't you the quickslash is mid person

[shrewd nymph]

Chompstep when (showing off my tiktok information)

[zealous skiff]

later™

actually tho later

[zealous skiff]

uhhh

[rare aurora]

but...

[lone laurel]

I just mostly think Quick Slash is overrated, and tremendously so.

[zealous skiff]

ok what if I changed later for soon™

[rare aurora]

when is soon...

[shrewd nymph]

What tier in a tier lists

[hot moon]

quick slash has a higher skill ceiling which clearly some people havent reached it is what it is

[zealous skiff]

next month?

[gentle pilot]

why is he correct

[rare aurora]

omg wait

[hot moon]

[rare aurora]

are you gonna

[wicked kiln]

Quickslash is not hard to use

[hot moon]

those who read my message

[foggy sable]

this

[dusty monolith]

Hot take, but when hornet binds the Hollow Knight, why do I feel like I always hear "Get Through!" Instead of the classic Git Gud
I feel like it just makes more sense for the radiance and infection ngl

[zealous skiff]

I want to finish off gd shit first but like lowk

or maths

[rare aurora]

both cool

[wicked kiln]

"Quick slash has a higher skill ceiling" no it doesnt it makes the game kf not easier wtf

[rare aurora]

i support this decision

[zealous skiff]

or I actually want to learn chinese at some point because half my family speaks that

[hot moon]

do you know what a skill ceiling

is

?

[gentle pilot]

are you saying qs makes the game harder

[lone laurel]

I would say high A. It is definitively useful, though it forces a very hyper-aggressive playstyle and gets less effective the later into the game you get as Bosses become less stationary and less frequently allow you to stay in your range for prolonged periods of time.

[shrewd nymph]

Dont fall for the bait

[vivid creek]

Your machinations have come to fruition

[hot moon]

bait is when someone says a charm isnt bad

[foggy sable]

this is great fun

[zealous skiff]

ty and also gl on studies, you have a lot ahead of you but I believe

[wicked kiln]

I litterally said in my message qs makes thw game easier

[wicked kiln]

Rephrase your sentence

[shrewd nymph]

Buddy thinks in falling for any of this 😭

[earnest widget]

Is qs useful against soul tyrant

[hot moon]

Buddy thinks in falling for any of this 😭

[shrewd nymph]

Yes

[rare aurora]

nahhh i don't have any lectures until january 7th

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-gif-9861338547512267012

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-covering-mouth-stream-scary-speed-scared-gif-3435748839023247479

[zealous skiff]

oh shit peak

[shrewd meadow]

lettucat

[rare aurora]

not peak

not

peaj

[zealous skiff]

oh

[rare aurora]

k

[lone laurel]

Like Quick Slash is entirely negated versus foes like Soul Tyrant and Collector, who never sit still at all, or foes like Markoth, who deliberately force you to stay at a distance and punish you for relentless aggression.

[zealous skiff]

sorry to hear that

oh right

[hot moon]

it speeds up collector 2x

[shrewd nymph]

Its great for tyrant and collector?

[hot moon]

what am i reading

😭

dsiof gjdsfm

[gentle pilot]

awioudnawuiondp

[shrewd nymph]

Markoth sure but not the first two

[rare aurora]

but it gives me more time to spend on electrodynamics so there's that

[foggy sable]

I have a clip for you

[gentle pilot]

chatgpt, generate me a random sentence:

[zealous skiff]

wait lune does lumafly work on hk update or should i just not update

[earnest widget]

It's great for the collector though

[hot moon]

but markoth its good if u have steady body doe 👀👀

[foggy sable]

somewhere

[lone laurel]

I mean sure you can hit them at most maybe two times before they instantly vanish again.

[zealous skiff]

idk if i want to play vanilla hk

[shrewd nymph]

Zero idea

[wicked kiln]

Never heard so much bullshit

[earnest widget]

Even without steady body

[foggy sable]

where markoth starts to shield spin then gets 1 cycled

[rare aurora]

copy the game files and then update

[hot moon]

even a broken clock is right twice a day

[shrewd nymph]

Collector is WAY more, tyrant only matters if you're good at the fight

[vivid creek]

Can easily get like 6 hits on collector

[hot moon]

W rindura

[wicked kiln]

You have no idea about the game

[gentle pilot]

iusenfiuef

[hot moon]

yeah i havent made it out of crossroads

[lone laurel]

How, exactly? He’s barely present onscreen at all unless you Stagger him, and he’s extremely high speed and jumpy to boot.

[agile pewter]

Whatever greyfire is about to send you, remember not to use "well thats because you're actually good at the game" as a counterpoint.

[foggy sable]

falls down and then does a jump, that is about 6 inputs

[earnest widget]

You can predict his jumps

[agile pewter]

Alr bye

[foggy sable]

so true

[earnest widget]

So you're always hitting him

[zealous skiff]

leonpot

[wicked kiln]

Honestly achievments dont even have to matter when it comes ro knowledge you just have no kdea about the game😭😭😭

[lone laurel]

I don’t use that as a counterpoint but okay.

[hot moon]

w grammar

r we in middle school man

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[foggy sable]

I wish I had cut this clip yesterday

[wicked kiln]

Im crine why do you keep meat riding @hot moon

[heavy barn]

you know where he initially lands and his trajectory is exactly the same

[shrewd nymph]

Alt account

[hot moon]

IKJSDOGN

[shrewd nymph]

probably

[vivid creek]

Kill the minions as they spawn
Watch for where collecter's gonna drop down, do some side slashes, then some upslashes, then some side slashes on the other side after he jumps over you

[heavy barn]

it's very consistent to land hits while he's on screen

[hot moon]

he thinks i got alts

IM CRYING

[shrewd nymph]

Yeah probably

[wicked kiln]

LMAO

[hot moon]

debating middle schoolers bro its gg

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hug-angry-birds-catbird-really-meme-no-fake-gif-9980836029424925531

[wicked kiln]

If you didnt understand my sentence thats on you

[lone laurel]

Ah, yeah, I can see that.

[earnest widget]

Did zero just swear at me or something

I got pinged

[hot moon]

i understood it i just think its a little stupid

[shrewd nymph]

At what point do mods get pinged for shitposting

[lone laurel]

No I think I just accidentally tripped the language doodad.

[zealous skiff]

you clearly dont

[hot moon]

you clearly dont

[earnest widget]

Ah

[wicked kiln]

So you had no argument and went for obvious typos

[gentle pilot]

what are we saying

[wicked kiln]

🤔

[lone laurel]

My vocabulary’s too powerful for it, apparently.

[shrewd nymph]

Read it again but slower this time

[hot moon]

ive tried to say my argument in every way i could and people here are allergic to reading or trying to see something from another persons perspective

[gentle pilot]

struggling

[hot moon]

its not really on me anymore

[rare aurora]

people bragging with their english online is crazy 😭 y'all got nothing better to do?

[gentle pilot]

my plant pot kinda tuff no

[winter eagle]

i hate markoth so much i beat it radiant but it's still getting my ass in pantheon 5
why must it make me so low all i ever wanted was nail binding

[wicked kiln]

Okay honestly im ingerested tell me in idgaf how long of a text ypur argument clearly

[hot moon]

people bragging with their english online is crazy 😭 y'all got nothing better to do?

[vivid creek]

Probably a while ago

[shrewd nymph]

Next one i will

[hot moon]

its wrong because its the minority

only for genius

[zealous skiff]

apparently

[gentle pilot]

gif = shitpost ❤️

[wicked kiln]

It gets to a point is what hes trying to say

[shrewd nymph]

Send some more then

[foggy sable]

the clip in question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFNVbM23zxc

[shrewd nymph]

find out

[rare aurora]

you know, maybe chat control is a good thing

[gentle pilot]

find out 😈

[hot moon]

ur so tough bro

im dying

[zealous skiff]

its like the progression of people who brag about knowing multiple languages

[shrewd nymph]

Holy alt account 😭

[hot moon]

freak around.... find out...

[pliant bough]

chomp, hop on gd

[rare aurora]

do not hop on gd

[pliant bough]

[zealous skiff]

I'm on un 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 known

[lone laurel]

Oh okay! You can pin him against one of his platforms to negate the Knockback. Useful to know.

[pliant bough]

unknown = peak

[wicked kiln]

?

Did he even watch the video

[foggy sable]

but also qs can keep him away if he floats towards you

[winter eagle]

yes it is so awesome it's amazing i love the platforms

[foggy sable]

and it works if he is near a wall

[rare aurora]

i thought those people didn't exist
have i been indoctrinated by america

[lone laurel]

Noted.

[zealous skiff]

boooo

[gentle pilot]

how do i get to deepnest

[earnest widget]

I still don't understand the timing for that on markoth

[wicked kiln]

So youre not gonna tell your argument got it😭

[hot moon]

under crossroads

[earnest widget]

I always fall off before i get a second slash in

[zealous skiff]

idk i haven't seen those people yet fortunately i just assumed they exist

[winter eagle]

ideal method is through mantis lords cause i love mantis lords

[gentle pilot]

thank you

[rare aurora]

no i mean people that speak multiple languages

[zealous skiff]

yes

[gentle pilot]

i will try and find ity 🙂

[rare aurora]

as we all know, english is the one and only language of the world

[vivid creek]

Humble > arrogant 1000% 👍
Can have cool convos with people who are better than you to gain knowledge & skills
Can fill that role yourself & teach people less proficient you

Plus less experienced people come up with great ideas all the time and may just need proper encouragement to act on them

[heavy barn]

so true

[earnest widget]

I get too arrogant the second i learn a word in another language

[hot moon]

the grass is green

[lone laurel]

I agree wholly with this.

[zealous skiff]

and you seem to be colourblind

[hot moon]

🐟

fish respect

[vernal knot]

[gentle pilot]

are there any f ish in hollow kihgt

[zealous skiff]

👍

[wicked kiln]

Oh wait thats a guy?

I thought he was female

[hot moon]

what

❓

[zealous skiff]

7000+ 1 living langauge and its american

[wicked kiln]

I clearly stated my thought

[earnest widget]

You talk like a performative gamer girl

Is what he meant

[wicked kiln]

Where is the joke?

[rare aurora]

that's not how you use that word...

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-facepalm-lmao-gif-15446474421410342464

[wicked kiln]

Is it not

Idk

[gentle pilot]

i cant find deepsnest

[wicked kiln]

Im german

[hot moon]

guys i reacted to lucas' sticker

is he my alt

[gentle pilot]

yeah.

[winter eagle]

did you find mantis lords

[opal hearth]

wait wha

[lone laurel]

Okay so. You been to Fungal Wastes, right?

[gentle pilot]

i beat them yestersday

[hot moon]

no idk these people said someone was my alt cause they agreed with me

[gentle pilot]

took me a while

[winter eagle]

there's a gate past them on the left

[rare aurora]

das ist äquivalent dazu, eine frau als "weib" zu bezeichnen. geht einfach nicht. ist nicht okay

[frank estuary]

go left

[gentle pilot]

ok

[lone laurel]

Go to the Mantis Lords’ arena, and go to the far left. There is a door into Deepnest there.

[wicked kiln]

Its not that deep bro bro

[frank estuary]

idk r you talking abt the night?

[opal hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447043176262140075/1452256643239776268/Untitled74_20251221140836.png?ex=694926e5&is=6947d565&hm=12b9de2ef88029514673fef13684a1d4cc405c06b7998abdc4159a23b7a46dcd&

[hot moon]

buddy servers english only

at what point do the mods get pinged for this

sigh

[hot moon]

nah but this

[gentle pilot]

i found it

[earnest widget]

What???

[gentle pilot]

thank you

@winter eagle

[winter eagle]

good luck

[foggy sable]

I forgot this place is so annoying when all good people stop talking

[hot moon]

kirby ur so wholesome

[earnest widget]

Since when is calling a woman "female" the same as calling them a bitch

[gentle pilot]

hes so wholesome chungus

[winter eagle]

thanks

[rare aurora]

that's

[earnest widget]

Yeah

[rare aurora]

not

[zealous skiff]

tis so sad

[rare aurora]

what that word means?

[wicked kiln]

Welcome to the "hollow knight fandom"

Everyone fighting

[zealous skiff]

google translate is bad

[foggy sable]

it took 2 minutes to devolve

[frank estuary]

its more fun if people talk abt HK instead

[hot moon]

okay chud

[gentle pilot]

i love this game

[rare aurora]

it's an objectifying term and that's it

[vivid creek]

Easy to get burnt out in this server
Sometimes it's way more fun to just sit back & enjoy the 🍿

[foggy sable]

case in point

[hot moon]

my fav game

[wicked kiln]

Not at all

Like what

[lone laurel]

I mean i’m just sort of here.

[earnest widget]

Afaik it's only objectifying if it's meant like so

[gentle pilot]

im enjoying it.

[wicked kiln]

Male and female are normal terms

[earnest widget]

"these females don't see how good i am"

[rare aurora]

that is

[hot moon]

chomp be like

[rare aurora]

<@&283547423706447872> i can't anymore i'm sorry

[gentle pilot]

uh oh.

[hot moon]

oh crap.

[zealous skiff]

so based

[shrewd nymph]

It depends on the person, and to avoid the misunderstanding you might as well say 'women' just to be kind

[gentle pilot]

oh jeez...

[hot moon]

yikers

[earnest widget]

But you use female in legal documents

[gentle pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-run-druski-run-druski-runs-gif-12448794324394622163

mods coming

[zealous skiff]

I'm sure your fun to be around

[heavy barn]

the issue people have is moreso that you used "guy" and "female"

[wicked kiln]

Yeah true everyone sees it diffrently

[heavy barn]

no parallelism

[hot moon]

yeah my friends find me funny

[heavy barn]

that's when people consider it offensive

[hot moon]

love all u guys lets all be friends

friendliness all around

[heavy barn]

if you have consistency it doesn't matter

[foggy sable]

all 0 of them?

[hot moon]

#pwned

[gentle pilot]

hollow knight sh ould be a lace of friendlieness

[shrewd nymph]

100%, just not worth the confusion ykwim

[gentle pilot]

howwlow knight discord

[hot moon]

why cant we all be friends

[zealous skiff]

just block them

[foggy sable]

good idea

[wicked kiln]

I personally just dont see a peoblem its just easier to say it like this im also fine with saying male and womeb

[earnest widget]

Did he?

[winter eagle]

erad you're the best person here

[heavy barn]

yeah

[wicked kiln]

Yeah true you get debates in every corner

[hot moon]

theyre just trying to say that in english its seen that way, every other language in the world it isnt so ur half right

[earnest widget]

The sentence was "i thought he was female", no?

[heavy barn]

again that just comes off badly especially if only one side is seen

[heavy barn]

message above that

[frank estuary]

Average day for princes back in the day

[hot moon]

true

[gentle pilot]

where is that that looks so cool

[lone laurel]

Makes sense.

[wicked kiln]

Well tbh after he translated it to german "weib/weibchen" i see what he means it really does sound very weird now to say to a human

[rare aurora]

in english, there is a difference between sex and gender, but w/e

[shrewd nymph]

Point is just try to say women/woman regardless of if you agree about it being objectifying the other way. It isnt any more effort

[hot moon]

yeah just a bit of a pointless argument ur not wrong or anything

[winter eagle]

super late game area
white palace

[lone laurel]

That is the White Palace. You won’t get there until much later in your run. Dream Nail content.

[gentle pilot]

white palace....

[frank estuary]

you'll be there at one point, its late game, some people call it hell while some love it like me

[gentle pilot]

🗒️ nooooted....

[lone laurel]

Basic notion it’s a very difficult platforming gauntlet.

Extremely recommended to complete the Hive before you go in there.

[winter eagle]

i love every part of white palace except most of white palace

[gloomy wedge]

Not as difficult as pop

[wicked kiln]

Yeah i lowkey kinda think its objectifying now😭

So ill try to change my wording

[rare aurora]

ty

[hot moon]

okay

[frank estuary]

I think climbing the white palace is harder than path of pain, does anyone else feel that way?

[lone laurel]

Eh true but Path of Pain is also a sub-location within White Palace, so technically still part of White Palace as a whole.

[hot moon]

its just longer so it feels harder

neither are that crazy

[lone laurel]

Path of Pain is moreso a test of your Nail Pogo abilities.

[gentle pilot]

i think ill skip path of pan in my run 👀

[frank estuary]

or maybe i think i should do it with hiveblood ig

[wicked kiln]

Nah dont

[hot moon]

hiveblood makes it slow cause ur waiting for ur hp

[frank estuary]

true tho ive only done it 3 times

[hot moon]

once u rerun it its much faster

[gloomy wedge]

Is it just me or I've never gone through pleasure house

[hot moon]

steady body op for white palace 👀

wheres the steady body guy

[wicked kiln]

There is only 1 part in the place where you cant infinite heal with i finite soul

[frank estuary]

no 1st time might be hell but after that its super fun ngl

[frank estuary]

true

[foggy sable]

also @shrewd nymph question from earlier, what is the boss with the biggest difficulty difference between attuned and radiant

[hot moon]

this guy gets it

[winter eagle]

i think i divided my time by 3 when i did it the second time

[hot moon]

i mean yeah u havent fully finished the game

[wicked kiln]

😭

[gloomy wedge]

I have 110%

[carmine lava]

probably markoth

[winter eagle]

this is how you get addicted to doing pop
i'm a crippling addict...

[hot moon]

i know

[foggy sable]

I have seen an answer from him for a similar question but I forgot it so I figured I'll ask

[shrewd nymph]

Markoth id say, absrad is harder but no hp increase and double dmg > inf is less of a gap than 1dmg > inf

[hot moon]

yeah and then it keeps happening until ur doing it hitless

[gloomy wedge]

I forgot I have it on my name

[rich stone]

It's totally Markoth

[frank estuary]

i mean i used it as a stressbuster from doing p5

[foggy sable]

I guess I'll accept I'm wrong

[gloomy wedge]

I haven't tried ascended markoth

[carmine lava]

what was your answer

[shrewd nymph]

Well its subjective but who did you say

[wicked kiln]

This guy gets it

[winter eagle]

i think i've done it hitless with speedrun charms like 3 times max
it's so hard

[foggy sable]

absrad

[frank estuary]

but i still hate abrad more, i got markoth more easily

[hot moon]

pop or white palace

[shrewd nymph]

Its just that absrad is already so hard attuned

[winter eagle]

pop

[carmine lava]

absrad is completely the same except you don’t need to get hit

[foggy sable]

the radiant version is so much harder

[hot moon]

for me its only the first room that my timings off sometimes

[rich stone]

AbsRad doesn't even get a health buff in acended

[winter eagle]

white palace hitless must be so hard
probably harder than pop hitless maybe

[hot moon]

other than that its not very hard

[wicked kiln]

But now that i think about it more absrad for a beginner is actually a brutal jump attuned to radiance

[foggy sable]

anyway I can accept being wrong

[gloomy wedge]

Question for chat what's your favorite boss

[hot moon]

just cause its longer

[rich stone]

So is GPZ

[carmine lava]

really absrad should be easier than most other bosses given that she doesn’t gain health and she already does 2 damage on attuned

[hot moon]

on its own its not really hard though

[vivid creek]

Absrad is deff the hardest radiant, but I think markoth has a larger gap between attuned/rad since baseline absrad is already the toughest boss
Plus the stuff lune mentioned about markoth earlier

[hot moon]

if you can do pop hitless you can do white palace hitless

easily

[wicked kiln]

GPZ is easy tho

[lone laurel]

Absrad is fairly difficult, though i’d say the core difficulty of the fight is just how long it is, as there’s a risk of you being slowly worn down if it drags too much.

[frank estuary]

I mean if you can do one, you can do the other imo

[foggy sable]

I find radkoth just a patience test though

[gentle pilot]

i have only killed a hjand ful but i would dasy mantis lord

[shrewd nymph]

Yeah and the fact the jump IS that big with less dmg jump and hp increase is crazy but attuned markoth is facetankable with like half gear ykwim

[rich stone]

That's why I find it boring

[winter eagle]

i mean yeah but
it'd take about the same amount of time to learn even if you do pop hitless i think

[shrewd nymph]

absrad was on my mind though

[frank estuary]

exactly especially with attuned or radiant with extra hp

[gloomy wedge]

I'll say mantis Lords is my second I like fighting nkg

[carmine lava]

because you know how to do the fight

[shrewd nymph]

the other one i was considering was oblobbles if markoth wasnt there

[hot moon]

i mean like wamaybe but for me i did it first try after pop 😭

[foggy sable]

radabsrad took me 5x as long the first time as radkoth

I don't remember the numbers on the attuned versions

[lone laurel]

Ye. You want to just hammer down the moth as quickly as you can, especially to skip Phase 4.

[winter eagle]

😭 😭
that's crazy

[frank estuary]

ikr

[carmine lava]

we’re not talking about pure difficulty

[hot moon]

its just the flow of pogoing and shit once u get it once for a part of it it just becomes innate

[foggy sable]

maybe I overestimate attunedkoth

[carmine lava]

absrad also definitely took you more than 5x longer to clear than overworld markoth or attuned markoth

[foggy sable]

okay I am convinced

[rich stone]

Markoth attuned dies by abyss shreak spam

[carmine lava]

also this

[lone laurel]

Yeah Absrad is beefy, though blessedly isn’t too hard beyond this aspect.

[gloomy wedge]

I think for me is I used to hate watcher knight but now it is pure vessel

[foggy sable]

absrad has the biggest step from ascended to radiant though

[shrewd nymph]

You hate pv?

[lone laurel]

Beyond the sheer length wearing you down, you should be fine so long as you can get through the projectile spam.

[gloomy wedge]

I don't hate it's hard

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[frank estuary]

you don't hate abrad

[shrewd nymph]

Ahh makes sense yeah true

[vivid creek]

For sure :p

[wicked kiln]

Thats valid tho

[carmine lava]

why is that

[winter eagle]

yeah that's true
the only part that messes me up is the dash spear timings and the part where you have to time your fall

[rich stone]

Going from dying to 3 hits to 1 hit is a huge jump

[wicked kiln]

Attuned to radiant is markoth but ascended to radiant is absrad that honestly a goated opinion

[gentle pilot]

😏 deepnest wont know what is about to hit it

👀

[carmine lava]

for most other bosses it’s 5 to 1

[lone laurel]

Because it’s the longest fight in the game. The risk of getting clipped even once is devastatingly high.

[shrewd nymph]

I mean i disagree for the same reason than 4 dmg > inf is less than 2 dmg > inf but im also exceptionally bad at markoth so.. yk

[hot moon]

what helps me with those is im so used to doing pogos off the sides of spikes i just jump as they come out and pogo off the side

[foggy sable]

because absrad is the most mechanically complex so doing it hitless is the hardest

[wicked kiln]

Here we go again

[hot moon]

makes it super free

[gloomy wedge]

Is it just me or traitors Lord run back is not bad

[foggy sable]

also you can heal 6 halfway through ascended absrad after sword rain

[hot moon]

relax buddy i replied to the wrong message

[carmine lava]

oh right

maybe in that case

[foggy sable]

so basically is an extra hit you can take

[rich stone]

That is true AbsRad is the most complex while still haveing a good amount of RNG

[regal perch]

what is the best radiant abs rad build

[winter eagle]

i think i get it
might try it out

[lone laurel]

I wouldn’t say the most complex. It’s largely just a harder Soul Master/Tyrant.

[shrewd nymph]

Qslash strength shaman sbody eater/mop probably

[regal perch]

abs rad rng is bs sometimes ngl especially phase 4

[hot moon]

if u need help lmk in dms it sounds much more intimidating than it actually is

[foggy sable]

... can someone else answer this

[shrewd nymph]

Idk how to 😭

[rich stone]

Sometimes she just has horrible teleports making the fight way longer

[regal perch]

is sbody that good for this

[foggy sable]

top 3 worst absrad takes?

[lone laurel]

Looking at the Bosses, Radiance shares a similar overall magnum opus to the Soul Master, being teleporting about while flying overhead and dumping ranged projectiles at you from afar.

[wicked kiln]

Why are you just saying bullshit bro greyfire is tired already😭

[winter eagle]

i mean by that logic soul warrior is a easier soul master

[shrewd nymph]

Yeah lets you get sideways m1s when she teleports while not getting knocked. Same as in sword rain phase you can jump and get like 3 m1s while you fall without getting knocked away

[vivid creek]

Tyrant doesn't have environmental hazards & platforming, doesn't have wall attacks

[regal perch]

on my practice with ascended I would sometimes get really lucky and she would teleport on the safest platform allowing me to get multiple descending darks plus nail spam

other times she would never do that

[foggy sable]

all my energy got drained reading it

[rich stone]

She has more attacks, platforming and has 6 phaces

[gloomy wedge]

I haven't reach p5 yet

[shrewd nymph]

and on platforms you can side slash + upslash for way more dps than simply upslash when using sbody

[regal perch]

ty for the explanation will try it out

[frank estuary]

I just found this in the memes channel, imagine how much geo would it be worth?

[shrewd nymph]

The only other 1 notch option is nmg which has minor use in the fight

[regal perch]

would you say soul eater or mark or pride better

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/gang-gif-9836396904127152482

[foggy sable]

actually I'll link the 8 pages or whatever the absrad guide is so you have an idea of the complexity difference

[hot moon]

thats what i was thinking too

[gloomy wedge]

I think it cost 100,000 geo

[gentle pilot]

yeah thats what i woulda did

[vivid creek]

eater

[frank estuary]

i don't get it

[hot moon]

its like were twins

cause i was also thinking about that

[foggy sable]

for what?

[hot moon]

yk

[shrewd nymph]

Idk to be honest.. i use MoP but its preference

[regal perch]

the final charm for radiant abs rad

[shrewd nymph]

Both have uses

[frank estuary]

i think we can buy city of tear with that but still won't be enough for RAM or SSD

[foggy sable]

eater is technically better I think

MoP is more comfortable

[frank estuary]

ah nice

[shrewd nymph]

I also only use eater on 1 of the 44 hog bosses so its definitely a preference thing

[wicked kiln]

Can you twll me how many projectiles soul master has and how many movement attacks soul master has

[winter eagle]

i mean he looks for stuff to find the lore of hallownest right
he doesn't really have that much of a use for the pale king
so maybe only like 30k

[lone laurel]

Theoretically both can work. Eater is nice to keep spamming Abyss Shriek to kill the Boss faster. Mark of Pride is better for ensuring your longevity since you can hit Radiance more easily and Melee her from a safer distance and have more reaction time when she retaliates.

[rich stone]

Yea I just like MoP range a lot it justs makes the fight more safer

[shrewd nymph]

Agreed

[gentle pilot]

not usre

[foggy sable]

if you do pogo last phase MoP is easier for that

[gloomy wedge]

I don't really us mop or ln

[regal perch]

also what do yall think is the hardest abs rad phase

[shrewd nymph]

Plats

[vivid creek]

plats

[foggy sable]

eater is better for phases 1,2, and 4

[regal perch]

my ass really says phase 4

[winter eagle]

plats 100%

[rich stone]

Plats by far

[gloomy wedge]

I changed it for q focus

[foggy sable]

objectively or subjevtively?

[regal perch]

so much rng bro

[frank estuary]

but its the corpse of a higher being and also a king so def he can show off the body so he can spare a bit more imo

[hot moon]

like... 2nd phase or the climb 😭😭

[regal perch]

the climb isn’t bad imo

[wooden magnet]

Velo char

[shrewd nymph]

Is this about to be a 6th stage answer

[lone laurel]

In terms of projectiles, he has a Homing orb, and the ‘sweeping multiple orb’ trick, on top of shockwaves from his Desolate Dive. For movement, he has a Teleport and a simple horizontal glide across the ground.

[hot moon]

the climb isnt bad at all

just bait the laser away

[rich stone]

You just need to learn when to jump

[foggy sable]

a climb phase answer with full equipment

a plats answer ab

[regal perch]

the climb is easy because if you go fast the laser usually doesn’t track that good

[shrewd nymph]

Is climb your subjective answer or the objective one?

[hot moon]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[foggy sable]

subjective

[winter eagle]

true...
i doubt he has that much money though 🙏
he probably wouldn't spend it all on a decoration

[shrewd nymph]

Do you die to climb?

[foggy sable]

plats is objectively hardest because it limits movement

[foggy sable]

more than any other phase

[frank estuary]

True

[shrewd nymph]

Wow thats interesting

[rich stone]

The difficulty spike from base Radience climb to AbsRad climb is huge

[gentle pilot]

what sis plats

is

[lone laurel]

Same honestly.

[winter eagle]

1.2k for a arcane egg is a scam!!!

[shrewd nymph]

A phase in a boss fight

[hot moon]

there is no difference

she shoots lasers faster bro its not huge

[vivid creek]

phase 4 with tje platforms, after the sword rain phase

[foggy sable]

climb is the most judgement based and I am impatient

[rich stone]

Have you seen how slow base Radience fires beam it's like 2x slower

[shrewd nymph]

Climb is where nerves start tbf

[gentle pilot]

i like arcane eggs !

[hot moon]

yea i rephrased

[gentle pilot]

helps me het my guy back

[foggy sable]

I think half of my 6 r5/r5 variant absrad deaths have been climb

[rich stone]

That's enough to make the climb more precise

[spice patio]

chat what happened to image perms what was the incident??

[hot moon]

but not enough to make it difficult

[wicked kiln]

Now lets look at absoulite radiance can shoot swords from above from the side and from her body can shoot lasers from her body and sideways theough the map spawns spikes on the ground summons light balls does all that beside sspike floor on platforms has a climb whiöe shooting lasers down and has a phase wjere she spams orbs on you while you only have 2 platforms and she has the mechanic that she has no contact damage

[hot moon]

at all

[shrewd nymph]

Id say its just nerves but half is more than id expect

[frank estuary]

why tho?

[foggy sable]

I'm impatient and with nerves am jumpy

[wicked kiln]

Not wven close to soul bum

[foggy sable]

which leads to me running into lasers a lot

[shrewd nymph]

learn insta wings

[rich stone]

I just told the difficulty difference between them is high not how hard AbsRad climb is

[wicked kiln]

The worst boss in the game

[winter eagle]

i mean there's only 4 that we can find (to my knowledge)
i feel like it's worth more than a few charms

[hot moon]

fistbump

all good

[shrewd nymph]

Who???

[foggy sable]

galien

[wicked kiln]

Soul bastard

And soul bum

[shrewd nymph]

Soul master or tyrant

[gloomy wedge]

Collecter

[wicked kiln]

Both

[shrewd nymph]

because tyrant is top 3

[foggy sable]

why?

[rich stone]

Soul Tyrant is amazing

[shrewd nymph]

And if master second phase was easier to 3 hit hes be cool

[foggy sable]

tyrant is great and master is also great

[fringe flint]

The no contact damage part is like the most important part tbf

[hot moon]

soul tyrant top 5 bosses in the game

[frank estuary]

ah i get it but 1.2K is nice in emergenceis

[gloomy wedge]

Soul tyrent is one of the best boss

[gentle pilot]

i wasnt a fan of umu

[rich stone]

I don't think he is Top 3 but definitely Top 10

[gentle pilot]

uumu

or however you spell

[shrewd nymph]

Fair enough

[spice patio]

||grey prince zote|| acually aint that bad anymore

[foggy sable]

and a worst bosses discussion isn't complete without marmu

[earnest widget]

Uumuu

[winter eagle]

yeah true
2k would have been nicer though...

[hot moon]

pv > nkg > tyrant > sisters >

maybe absrad 5th

[shrewd nymph]

Pv love im home

[wicked kiln]

I dont know i just dont know for some reason im so bad at him even soul master it took me less tries to radiant absrad in my hog speedrun than to radiant soul tyrant AND MASTER

[foggy sable]

you don't have to spoiler here

[frank estuary]

fair enough

[lone laurel]

Well in terms of Absrad’s full projectile pool, there’s the ‘fanning sun ray’ laser attack, a similar fanning Soul Nail attack, aimed in a slight spiral, the directional Soul Nail walls, either from left, right, or above, a larger variant on the Homing Orbs, a sweeping sun ray laser that must be Shadow Dashed through, and for movement she has a simple little teleport.

[rich stone]

You just need to understand his mix ups he is a reaction based boss

[spice patio]

ok

[hot moon]

maybe im not all that bad

🥹

[foggy sable]

you did a HoG speedrun?

what time

[gloomy wedge]

I don't like collecter bcs he's annoying and always jump away and you don't get soul from her/him/it

[shrewd nymph]

When you arent baiting you're cool dw twin

[hot moon]

still wasnt baiting you people just misread my messages 3 times and made your own bait 😭

[zealous skiff]

"when you aren't an asshole you aren't an asshole"

[hot moon]

#pwned

[shrewd nymph]

Eh i wont go on about it anyways

[hot moon]

neither im tired

[gentle pilot]

thats a mario block...

[wicked kiln]

I did it once for a little warm up and then stopped cause i lost motivation in hk it was around 2 hours and barely 3 hours after doing every pantheon to unlock absrad

[foggy sable]

pretty good

[spice patio]

what is hog

[hot moon]

2.6 hog cycle

[shrewd nymph]

Hall of gods

[gloomy wedge]

Hall of gods

[spice patio]

oh

[foggy sable]

I remember doing one ages and ages ago which took about 4 hours

[wary hound]

hello

[wicked kiln]

I bet you could hit an pre 2 hours now

[gloomy wedge]

Ello

[spice patio]

isn't HoG speedrun basically p5

[foggy sable]

which was all pantheons and all bosses on all difficulties

[winter eagle]

pv > mantis lords > nkg > hornet 1 > normal rad
is my list

[wary hound]

wyd

[spice patio]

oh

[frank estuary]

no, i hate that, cause i can't use it but i can't defend against it either

[hot moon]

not that bad of a list

[wicked kiln]

What am i saying you could beat all of hog in radiant in under 1 hour honestly

[foggy sable]

oh probably

[vivid creek]

r5 runs are already really fast tbh

[foggy sable]

I may have one time I forgot

or rather didn't time it

[spice patio]

is it really worth it doing HoG speedrun and wasting 3-4 hours of your time 😭

[winter eagle]

normal rad is just so fun

[wicked kiln]

Yeh but in my run i did the ascended first so basically vanila

[gentle pilot]

just got my 30th achiveement awsome

[wary hound]

nah do a randomizer true ending

[hot moon]

after doing absrad its so slow

😭

[shrewd nymph]

YOURS sure are 😭

[frank estuary]

its not a waste of time, its fun

[gentle pilot]

thank you for the heart streanger

[winter eagle]

yes it's like
calming 😭

[rich stone]

Yea but it's still really fun

[shrewd nymph]

You speedrun the bosses

[vivid creek]

[hot moon]

yeah u can enjoy it

i just dont

[opal hearth]

no because you get all your masks back

[hot moon]

not saying u cant like it sob

[spice patio]

nah if i try it like more than 1 time i'll just drop it lmao

[foggy sable]

last time I did a challenge in HoG on full equipment was about 6 months ago I think

[rich stone]

I just do challange runs with normal Rad to enjoy it

[frank estuary]

Im sure r5ab's are much faster

[vivid creek]

-10 patience

[hot moon]

whats a challenge run lad

[shrewd nymph]

Gonna submit the r5 run to the google doc or to speedrun.com??

[hot moon]

you mean the normal true ending or?

[gloomy wedge]

My least favorite boss is

[winter eagle]

wait what's r5

[foggy sable]

the google doc?

[shrewd nymph]

Hitless p5

[rich stone]

I mean like doing her fight with low equipment or without dash

[shrewd nymph]

The one with the r5 clears on it

[winter eagle]

woah

[spice patio]

guys unpopular opinion but markoth isn't as hard if you're patient

[frank estuary]

Look at this screenshot and tell me its not worth it

[wicked kiln]

Recently i went even more down the rabbit hole and uncovered hk chanels and i stumbled upon off topic and oh boy its down there with skdisc

[foggy sable]

oh yeah the one I'm not on so is fake

[vivid creek]

When I get it, yea
The the doc not speedrun tho

I think it'll be 31-32 mins when I get it

[gentle pilot]

god tamer sounds cool

[shrewd nymph]

Smh maybe you havent done r5 yet

[spice patio]

what's r5

[gentle pilot]

cool name

[spice patio]

rantheon 5?

[foggy sable]

one day I will

[shrewd nymph]

Hitless p5

[spice patio]

hell no

[rich stone]

His fight just being a Patience fight is what makes Markoth boring

[foggy sable]

today maybe even

[hot moon]

okay

[shrewd nymph]

The r being radiant is confusing bc thats actually a thing (radiant hp too)

[spice patio]

tru 😭

[winter eagle]

oh wait i didn't save zote in my run because i didn't know where he was 😭 😭
changing my name to 62/62...

[hot moon]

i play markoth adhd as fuck and he dies fast

[spice patio]

but like that's kinda the strategy for him unfortunately :angry :

[frank estuary]

dw its easy but you will cry on the journey to get to the boss

[wicked kiln]

Wait r 5 is supposed to be done with radiant hp?

[shrewd nymph]

Nah

[foggy sable]

last r5 took 5 tries but, like, I don't want to do more

[shrewd nymph]

But there is a thing that is radiant hp too which is why irs confusing

[wicked kiln]

Oh your message made it seem like that lol mb

[frank estuary]

i mean i did'nt know that zote would be a boss or else i would've never saved him

[shrewd nymph]

I worded it poorly you're good

[wicked kiln]

Ohhh

[gentle pilot]

i had a whole, thing, with that zote guy

on my first

[gloomy wedge]

Question what made you guys play hk

[gentle pilot]

rimte seeing him

[spice patio]

should i beat hollow knight with one hand or continue silksong

[winter eagle]

zote seemed so cool

[wicked kiln]

Zote is overhated i love my boy

[wary hound]

lol

its worth

im 2 off

[vivid creek]

Y'know
This could have 2 meanings, kill the bosses fast or die to mmc twice in a row

[winter eagle]

had it from a steam sale once and let it dust there for a while
friend convinced me

[shrewd nymph]

LMAO

[foggy sable]

dying to MMC is normal

[spice patio]

whats mmc

[rich stone]

As a fight GPZ zote is fun but as a character he sucks

[foggy sable]

it can't be helped

[frank estuary]

I mean the first thing that made me want to play hollow knight is pop

[shrewd nymph]

Theres a reason i rarely walk forward on r5 mmc anymore

[wicked kiln]

Nah he tuff

[rich stone]

Massive Moss Charger

[spice patio]

o

[vivid creek]

Is this serious tho?

[frank estuary]

i don't hate him its just that his p5 placement is bad

[foggy sable]

yes

[wicked kiln]

True

[gloomy wedge]

I play it bcs my brother started playing skong

[rich stone]

I have died to MCC a few times doing P1AB

[spice patio]

mmc really sucks if you dont have quickslash cheese thingy

[hot moon]

nope

[winter eagle]

isn't he like right after markoth 😭