hk-discussion

[wicked kiln]

If the ten people are experiemced hollow knight players and are serious i would assume so and it should be the case

Upslash just makes her excelerate too fast lol

[foggy sable]

marmu can also spawn on the ground or stick to the ground when bouncing which is a problem

[subtle glacier]

very fast yes

[wicked kiln]

Makes it impossible to not get hit

[subtle glacier]

impossible no

[foggy sable]

also marmu can go into no knockback form when bouncing from the ceiling towards you

[wicked kiln]

Didnt know your nail attavks every 0.1seconds

[foggy sable]

which sucks and is why I don't do a pure upslash fight and instead a upslash sideslash pattern

[wicked kiln]

I should try that

[worthy peak]

The ascended arena is much worse for marmu it's one of the main issues

[subtle glacier]

hkmain has an attitude this morning

[foggy sable]

I have a video let me find

[sick bison]

🙏

[wicked kiln]

We are

In discussion

[subtle glacier]

ok and i’m advocating for upslash marmu bc it’s ✨good✨

[wicked kiln]

Can you show me a clip of you doing marmu radiant only upslashing

[foggy sable]

my alternative to a pure upslash fight
https://youtu.be/Kk0Lb4Ojz6E

[subtle glacier]

lemme check if i have one

[wicked kiln]

I will def do that tactic from now on

[marsh torrent]

how many times do i have to dream nail this guy

[north charm]

does elegy work with mask bindings

[solar rover]

once actually

[foggy sable]

you can do pure upslash though, it does work but is prone do a different bug

[shrewd nymph]

You need 1800 essence and to upgrade dnail

[solar rover]

you just need ana awakened one

[north charm]

once, if you have the ||awakened dream nail||

[marsh torrent]

nothing happened tho, he just keeps glowing

ah ok

[north charm]

why did i do that

ok

[subtle glacier]

https://youtu.be/jQrIp3UbLKw?si=fEypdosfMd5Zfq5b

29:48

[wicked kiln]

Thing is what i mean is doing non stop upslash

[worthy peak]

And just happens to only limit you

[wicked kiln]

Its just a bad tactic

[solar rover]

if you dream nail him you will see he has a barrier, this was set up by the pale king but an awakened dream nail gets past it

[foggy sable]

it does work with good timing(although I don't like it)

[nova fossil]

WITHOUT ddark

[subtle glacier]

[worthy peak]

The idea of upslash marmu I believe is that it means you have less to think about

[foggy sable]

I find the problem with it to be marmu can switch into the end of attack state while on top of you

[verbal pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/marmu-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-marmu-marmuhk-hollowknightmarmu-gif-17510623616197703115

[subtle glacier]

i’ve found upslash marmu to be more consistent on my fps

idk if fps has anything to do with it

[solar rover]

but even that cant open this thing up

[marsh torrent]

what upgrades should i get until i can beat lost kin

[worthy peak]

More consistent than using both? Why?

[foggy sable]

also if you have spells in a pantheon just use spells

[subtle glacier]

but if there’s a difference i’m eager to attribute it to that

[naive dew]

Chombear

[foggy sable]

the difference is more for low equipment it needs much more consistency than I find upslash has

[subtle glacier]

levi back me up

[wicked kiln]

I think im a lil slow i only saw the fight using mark of pride which would lead to what i said but normal nail looks like to be the trick

[solar rover]

skill upgrades or based on how you play nail or spell build

[verbal pasture]

Upslash is peak

[marsh torrent]

i do both

[wicked kiln]

I never did the fight using upslash no mark of pride but usually no mark of pride and normal slash

[wicked kiln]

It does

Barely tho

[verbal pasture]

It really doesn’t

[glossy python]

Ok guys im a little confused in something even to this day

[solar rover]

i see then to make your life easier when you dream nail broken vessel go to left of the platform and jump while holding left and dash once. DO NOT Release left button and you will reach last platform in there then you can c dash into the arena

[naive dew]

Hi levi

[verbal pasture]

https://youtu.be/T67-4J2rBiA?si=aie_C1XNJf_LpqfZ

https://youtu.be/bkfiDY7C-rg?si=7rp1ktlKYlbgiCwY

[subtle glacier]

levi

[wicked kiln]

With lower fps it would be really annoying having to slash in bad frames and hitting him

[foggy sable]

marmu I am good enough at to say my strat is good

[solar rover]

@marsh torrent

[marsh torrent]

what does that achieve

[glossy python]

We all know speedrunners avoid nail upgrades in a lot of category cause ot scales boss hp. But does it ACTUALLY OUTSCALE your damage? Won't it still take less hits if yout doing nail only?

[wicked kiln]

I played on my swizch back then and the fps were horrid it was much less consistent to get good nail timings in with my switch than with my pc

[verbal pasture]

I play at low fps and I don’t have this problem at all

[foggy sable]

but I only do it because I can't do upslash and don't find upslash consistent

[wicked kiln]

Well what do we consider low fps i consider low fps 30 to 60

[solar rover]

you get to fight the boss faster without dying to platforming to reach the arena

[marsh torrent]

cool

[verbal pasture]

Switch is NOT the same as low FPS pc

[subtle glacier]

it won’t make the fight slower no, but often it won’t make the fight faster by enough to account for the time spent getting the nail upgrade

[onyx wigeon]

Is Sharp Shadow good when fighting pure vessel

[marsh torrent]

well ill probably forget this by the time im actually strong enough to fight em

[verbal pasture]

Iirc console has inherent input lag

[shrewd nymph]

no

[wide umbra]

It's literally perfect for that fight

[sick bison]

No

[red gale]

Father why are you lying

[wicked kiln]

Thing is i adjusted to the delay the fps tho just made it so i have clunkier controls

[onyx wigeon]

Why

[verbal pasture]

Even at 60 fps you shouldn’t be having any issues tbh

[wide umbra]

It seems that I was lying, it's bad

[onyx wigeon]

I play hollow knight on 15 fps and it's fine

[wicked kiln]

60 is like the max i would consider low fps so

[wicked kiln]

💀

[wide umbra]

Did you miss a zero?

[marsh torrent]

does hk have any fake benches like ||solksonmg||

[subtle glacier]

50fps is the lowest graphics frame rate accepted for submitted runs so i think that is considered low

[onyx wigeon]

Shush

[naive dew]

60 is inherently not that low

[onyx wigeon]

What about Sharp Shadow for NKG

[wicked kiln]

Ahh good to know

[wide umbra]

Wouldn't it be better if you find out by yourself?

[sick bison]

Not horrible

[marsh torrent]

how is it possible for a computer to be so garbage to run hollow knight at under 60 fps

[foggy sable]

amazing, 10/10

(awful don't use)

[mossy sorrel]

Does anyone know a good geo farm (i hate getting unbreakable strength)

[shrewd nymph]

grr

[subtle glacier]

i run hk at 60fps on purpose

[wicked kiln]

My hollow knight runs at like 30 fps if i dont optimize my fps

[shrewd nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EihyH1Jjg

[wicked kiln]

My pc is horrid

[wide umbra]

Kingdom's edge, hoppers

[naive dew]

Isnt hk not that greatly optimised

[wary hound]

I JUST DID it again 😭

[wicked kiln]

Yeah kinda

[onyx wigeon]

Hmm
What charms should I use for P5AB?

[wicked kiln]

Its just not good optimised thats all

[verbal pasture]

It was even worse before 1.3

[shrewd nymph]

toa

[verbal pasture]

Cause it was ported to consoles after 1221

[sick heath]

[wide umbra]

Kingsoul charm

[wary hound]

wait a minute

[wary hound]

WAIT A MINUTe

[solar rover]

try checking you ram and see whats filling it, betting one flower quest its google chrome if you have it on

[wicked kiln]

Sharp shadow,faster heal,hiveblood,soul eater

[marsh torrent]

my hk is running flawlessly, if my monitor wasnt a trashy 60hz one it'd probably go like 144

[wide umbra]

Quick focus?

[marsh torrent]

also i use firefox

[naive dew]

You can uncap ur fps

[wicked kiln]

Yes

Bad with names mb

[onyx wigeon]

You are always so helpful

[marsh torrent]

doesnt matter if i cant see those frames anyway

[wide umbra]

Nah, no one's expecting you to remember all those names

[solar rover]

i see did you check if your settings had any fram cap?

[naive dew]

The point was more about testing

[marsh torrent]

they do. i know my frames are being capped

[ancient ravine]

Colosseum of fools is 'free'

[marsh torrent]

theres no point in uncapping if my monitor wont be able to show those frames

[onyx wigeon]

It's been a minute, what were you waiting for

[wicked kiln]

With the time i played thw game i should be remembering all the names lol

[solar rover]

no i meant if your frame rate is capped at 60 even tho your desktop might support more? just check if you are not sure

[red gale]

Ion know about y'all but my hk starts lagging sm on enraged guardian ✌️🥀

[wide umbra]

Well, people aren't flawless

[wary hound]

uhh umm a 9 minute video u wannt it?

[marsh torrent]

my 3060 can absolutely handle more
my monitor cant

[onyx wigeon]

ok

[marsh torrent]

nearly every game i play is held back by my monitor

[wary hound]

become the moniter

[icy moat]

What charms do you guys recommend I use while fighting this abomination of a creature

[wary hound]

sham strength quick slash

and um

spell twister

idk

[solar rover]

just check this setting

[onyx wigeon]

Sharp Shadow

[wary hound]

i feel like t heres a 2.5 percent chance my monitor reset to 650 hz

60*

[solar rover]

@marsh torrent

[solar rover]

you can just check its a 3 click process

[marsh torrent]

I. FUCKING. KNOW. MY. FRAMES. ARE. CAPPED.
I TOLD YOU FOR THE THIRD TIME

[solar rover]

sorry

[wary hound]

my montor canggo as low as s 50 wtf

and ik

[marsh torrent]

also i use arch btw

[wary hound]

i have checkled before

[marsh torrent]

my monitor is 10 years old

[solar rover]

arch???

i see

[marsh torrent]

i am well fucking aware that its 60hz

[solar rover]

sorry i said it you know, i was just making sure your display settings were not capped rather than monitor being the bottle neck

[marsh torrent]

i have everything set to auto so it would've picked the highest rr anyway (hyprland)

bro thinks hes spider man

[sick bison]

*spiderman thinks hes him

[solar rover]

you think you are escanor

[sick bison]

*escanor thinks hes me

[solar rover]

he only pities a lower being trying to copy his shine

[wary hound]

im nearly perfect but barely not as im not THE perfect one

|| im capping||

[sick bison]

Im that he

[deft karma]

damn markoth ascended was hard to do

[wary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-markoth-skill-issue-grimm-gif-7547399455572018214

[rigid creek]

Yo guys how do I farm dream essence I forgot to equip that dream charm

[wary hound]

4k clip of me doing radiant markoth

kill dream warriors bosses or dream nail dream trees

[rigid creek]

can’t find any more of those dream dudes

[sick heath]

Kill bees

[wary hound]

what have u fought so far

[rigid creek]

Bees?

[sick heath]

Yes bees

[sick bison]

Son

[rigid creek]

I have every map unlocked but I haven’t fully explored the hive

Plus i only see one whispering root

In my map

No warriors grave

[wary hound]

hive just has bees i believe he is telling u to because u can get essence from killing shit tons of a specific entity

[wary hound]

its 20 -40 ish essence per

how much essence do u have

[rigid creek]

So I use my dream nail to hit it?

[wary hound]

wat bosses have u fought

[marsh torrent]

im fighting a dude named watcher knight i suppose

[rigid creek]

1361

[wary hound]

bees no u ujust murk them but ik if its worth the time ngl

[wary hound]

wat dream bosses?

ur missing plenty

[rigid creek]

How to mark them

[marsh torrent]

holy shit two of them

[rigid creek]

Lemme see

Markoth

Galien

No eyes

Marmu

[sick bison]

These arent dream bosses

Jus dream warriors

[wary hound]

warriors also work

[rigid creek]

Mb I meant dream warriors

I beat those bosses

3 of them

[wary hound]

any dream versions of bosses?

liek a second version

[rigid creek]

Nope

[wary hound]

ok

[rigid creek]

I haven’t awakened my nail

[wary hound]

u dont need it to be do you i dont think

[red gale]

You don't need the nail for them

[rigid creek]

Oh?

Then what am I supposed to do

[deft karma]

Markoth is the ultimate skill test

[red gale]

It's only for a certain npc who i won't spoil

[wary hound]

only if radiant

[rigid creek]

Okay

[wary hound]

theres like 3 or 4 dream versions

[rigid creek]

So I try to hit the warriors I defeated?

[wary hound]

find them i can tell u wheresome are

[red gale]

Beat the dream version of the bosses to get lots of essence

[rigid creek]

Sure

[wary hound]

not warriors bosses

[rigid creek]

Then who

[wary hound]

failed champion is behind a breakable wall in forgetton crossroads

u want more

[rigid creek]

Oh

Yeah

I do

[rigid creek]

How much will I earn

[wary hound]

i forgot

[sick bison]

Leading bro to the hardest 🥀

[wary hound]

not hardest

[shrewd nymph]

all dream bosses are 300 but kin which is 400

obviously excluding rad and nkg

[sick bison]

Yuh uh

[wary hound]

idk

[rigid creek]

Each?

[shrewd nymph]

yes

[rigid creek]

Nice

So I go to the fallen champion at the same place where false knight was?

[wary hound]

breakable wall but i reccomend lost kin

is easier

[rigid creek]

Where would that be

[sick bison]

Same place as broken vessel

[wary hound]

where u killed broken vessel

[wary hound]

u beat me

[rigid creek]

Ok

[wary hound]

to it

[rigid creek]

Bet

[sick bison]

When it comes to speed im the best

[red gale]

Yes hardest

[wary hound]

how fast can u type in ur peak

[wary hound]

u can just cycle

[sick bison]

In my prime it was one word per miliseconds

[solar rover]

sorry afk @sick bison lets continue argueing

[sick bison]

Erm what were we argueing abt

[solar rover]

idk i forgot also i remember something

[solar rover]

remember this shame file @sick bison

[sick bison]

Yeah

[solar rover]

its time to die has come

i did it within 5 hours

[sick bison]

Good job

Always believe in your skill

[solar rover]

goodbye shame file,,, wanted to do that with you

[wary hound]

why is it a shame file

[solar rover]

now i have to do 112% in 20 hours

[weary stratus]

i did it within 3 lmao

[marsh torrent]

dude why are the watcher knights so hard

[sick bison]

Thats easier dw

[solar rover]

my first speed run it was sooooooooo bad its name was changed to shame file

[wary hound]

WAT
my first was 3h 21 min

second 2h 26min

3rd na

n/a

[weary stratus]

yes

[wary hound]

?

?

[weary stratus]

what

[silent reef]

time to lock in and get sub 5 for achievement

[sick bison]

Erm

Yes

[solar rover]

again today?

[sick bison]

Yes

[wary hound]

no

[sick bison]

Why

[true crater]

Try dodging, it makes the fight easier

[sick bison]

Jus get it after

Well thats ur choice ig

[silent reef]

wym

[wary hound]

YES

[silent reef]

it's ez

[solar rover]

nothing... i can barely do any% in 5 hours and your are doing 112%

[silent reef]

I did it first try with out having qg thing unlocked

[sick bison]

Tuff

[silent reef]

I found a new skip

[rocky lodge]

hmmm

i have a slight feeling none of this was needed

[silent reef]

bruh it was lowkini hard to do

[wary hound]

omg p ersonal best pop

i think i just got

[deft karma]

Here's a fun challenge for the pros, try and defeat radiant markoth, using only sharp shadow to do damage

[silent reef]

Im not a pro but bet

Ill do it rn

[wary hound]

i will if u can beat me in pop race

[deft karma]

gl

[silent reef]

does strengh increase ss dmg?

[wary hound]

dash master does

[deft karma]

no

[silent reef]

yeah I know

[deft karma]

not strength

[silent reef]

let me use spells bruh

[deft karma]

just ss

[clever ridge]

Is ||hornet2|| a hard boss

[wary hound]

no

[silent reef]

¨how hard can it be bruh

[silent reef]

yea

[deft karma]

it can be really hard

[clever ridge]

So is it okay if I die 20 times and even more than that on mobile?

[silent reef]

yeah spam ddark

[clever ridge]

Don't have it

only desolate dive

[silent reef]

oh yeah im not doing this bruh

oh hell nah

I keep falling in void

[wary hound]

waatch my user name change rq

[deft karma]

yeah it feels impossible doesn't it?

[wary hound]

it basically is

[silent reef]

im not doing ts bruh

[deft karma]

nice attempt, you got farther than me

[foggy sable]

I've given it a few tries before but it isn't fun enough to properly attempt

[silent reef]

WHGAT

HOW DID I DIE BRUH

HOW

yo ref

[deft karma]

you dashed into him but he has a platform inside him that stopped you

[silent reef]

OH

yo ts bruh

[deft karma]

yeah I've died like that several times now

[silent reef]

oh fuck his sheild

[deft karma]

I keep on going over him what the hell

[silent reef]

how many hits have yo ugotten on your best attempt?

my is 10

[deft karma]

idk bro, probably 5 or something

[silent reef]

yeah maybe we leave this one for the pros

[deft karma]

maybe

or maybe I dedicate myself to doing this, no matter how hard it gets

[silent reef]

ill do a normal rad markoth

[deft karma]

that's usually how I do it

[foggy sable]

sharp shadow only or is dashmaster also allowed?

[deft karma]

I'd say it's more of a challenge without

but you do you

[silent reef]

wait no

what am I doing

I should be running 112

stop stalling

[deft karma]

and I should be doing p5 already

[spiral jungle]

what does my

myla do

i js found her

[silent reef]

time to get that damn achievement

need to save 40m

[icy moat]

That's what I'm using

And I can't equip spell twister

[thick elk]

WHATTTT

[icy moat]

Cuz a) ion have it

b) I don't have enough notches

[silent reef]

strengh, quickslash, shamans, steady, nmg

[deft karma]

yeah sometimes that happens, it's very annoying

[silent reef]

nie I got the right language now

[solar rover]

certified gamer language

[solar rover]

what stuff do i need from royal waterways for 112%?

[ionic prawn]

Spoilers allowed here?

[rich stone]

Yea

[ionic prawn]

I got through the path 😃

[silent reef]

mask, 3 grubs, fluknest, dung

[solar rover]

well well well look who is stuck now

[unkempt thistle]

is this the path of pain؟

[unkempt thistle]

😂😂

[ionic prawn]

Yes

[unkempt thistle]

ohh ok i can do it

[unkempt thistle]

not like me

[solar rover]

i am gonna abouse the soul out of him

[ionic prawn]

You can do it!! It's very hard though

[solar rover]

why do people not check the safest way to drop there

[unkempt thistle]

yeah just killed him

[unkempt thistle]

not on me 😎

[solar rover]

i have dream nail you know

[solar rover]

3rd grub you get from kingdoms edge path

[unkempt thistle]

i don't understand

[unkempt thistle]

تكلم عربي

[unkempt thistle]

ohhhh

[solar rover]

if you have the correct charms you should have more than enough hearts but people after c dash forget that there is spikes above it so you have to go a bit right to avoid it

[astral hornet]

Lore wise is pure vessel or the radiance stronger?

[solar rover]

radiance

[astral hornet]

Wasn’t pv designed to kill her?

[unkempt thistle]

no i just need one more maske

[lapis sandal]

getting 100% achievements on hk makes me hate it

[deft karma]

contain* but it failed at it

[solar rover]

well i cant be sure who is stronger since i am not that deep but no pv was made to seal the raiace not kill it

[lapis sandal]

i dont even enjoy it, just suffering

[astral hornet]

Hmmm i see

[solar rover]

radiance is a pure dream being and even pale king had no full way to kill it so their decision was to seal it with the power of another god

[unkempt thistle]

guys how many masks are in the game?

[astral hornet]

10 total masks I think

[solar rover]

idk why pale king just didnt fight the radiance in the end but what do i know

[solar rover]

9 permament masks a

and extra based on charms and stuff

temporary tho

[astral hornet]

So I am guessing because pure vessel wasn’t able to contain the infection, his idea was to kill radiance entirely?

[silent reef]

YO AINT N OWAY

[astral hornet]

Ah alright i thought it was 10 like silksong

[silent reef]

I PULLED OFF FIREBALL SKIP IN RUN

[astral hornet]

Nice

[proud storm]

hi

[solar rover]

good for you

royal waterways done now time for ancient basin

[upbeat elbow]

Helllo

Anyone here

Anyone???

[unkempt thistle]

Yas

[deft karma]

oh my fucking god, this challenge is impossible

[unkempt thistle]

تكلم عربي يوسف

[unkempt thistle]

what is it?

[deft karma]

rad markoth using only ss and no dashmaster

[upbeat elbow]

Hey

Does anyone know how to get mantis claw

[unkempt thistle]

oh i don't know were is that

[quasi cove]

in mantis village

[worthy peak]

Where r u

[quasi cove]

fungal wastes

[young bolt]

That wasn't anyones plan, the knight just did it and succeeded (in some endings)

[upbeat elbow]

Fungal wastes with legeater

[worthy peak]

Where in fungal wastes

[worthy peak]

Down

[deft karma]

pantheon

[upbeat elbow]

Ok

[quasi cove]

near the bottom

[worthy peak]

Then right

And then further down

[upbeat elbow]

Uh huh

[unkempt thistle]

@upbeat elbow يوسف

[upbeat elbow]

I don't have the map btw

[mild sorrel]

Sadge

[worthy peak]

Also left after the second down

[upbeat elbow]

Okkkk

[unkempt thistle]

I'm sorry

[upbeat elbow]

So down right down left

[quasi cove]

just explore without asking others about stuff. the game is more fun like that

[astral hornet]

ولا يهمك

[unkempt thistle]

😦

[quasi cove]

don't concern yourself with upgrades, just go wherever you haven't been

[upbeat elbow]

It's my second playthrough

[quasi cove]

oh

[solar rover]

i have sealed her fate

[astral hornet]

Why…

[unkempt thistle]

@upbeat elbow I can open a live stream and I'll tell you that I'm here.

[upbeat elbow]

Wut do you want

[unkempt thistle]

helping you

[upbeat elbow]

Ohhh

[young bolt]

Easier fight probably, which I agree with said decision since I have never successfully done traitor lord without her

[unkempt thistle]

yeah

[deft karma]

wouldn't be rad if I did radiant markoth only ss right now and be the first probably

[upbeat elbow]

Btw what boss after hornet 1first

[young bolt]

Multiple options

[astral hornet]

She does like 8 damage per hit

[upbeat elbow]

Like what

[astral hornet]

I’d say mantis lords

[upbeat elbow]

Okk

I remember that one

[solar rover]

time to become poor

[deft karma]

damn I managed to get 10 hits in

[unkempt thistle]

it's very easy

[upbeat elbow]

TWO HP NO SHADE

[deft karma]

new record

[young bolt]

I don't think you have enough?

[astral hornet]

It’s 3k

[young bolt]

How much was it?

[unkempt thistle]

too

[unkempt thistle]

me to

[solar rover]

3000 geo

[young bolt]

Ah oke

[unkempt thistle]

I was have 6000

[solar rover]

poor together strong

[upbeat elbow]

Your controls look different

[unkempt thistle]

😎☝🏻

[astral hornet]

Do colo 1 two times and you’ll get 4k

[unkempt thistle]

ohh men 😂

[upbeat elbow]

Ok I'll go now byee

[solar rover]

she has 2 endings this is supposed to be her good ending but i wont say that it is

[solar rover]

this locks the route to her good ending

[unkempt thistle]

She wasn't there in the boss

soo i will get the scone end

[solar rover]

no if she wasnt you didnt meet her in the basin then you have the second ending which i think is not necesarrily bad as others say it is

its more of a open end

[ancient ravine]

Absrad is hard

[unkempt thistle]

thank God

[meager crane]

Just defeated dung defender in radiant

[unkempt thistle]

?

[solar rover]

it ought to be given ist the hardest boss in game

[red gale]

Ggs

Now do white defender

[meager crane]

Sure

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[ancient ravine]

Fr

[meager crane]

What should i do after that?

[shrewd nymph]

No..?

[red gale]

Depends. Something simple or hard?

[meager crane]

Medium

[potent mesa]

yo guys i saved zote in greenpath, why isnt he in pantheon 3?

[meager crane]

Like 7/10

[astral hornet]

Wdym no

[astral hornet]

Why do you want him😭

[potent mesa]

because why not

[astral hornet]

He’ll end alot of your runs

[potent mesa]

and thats the fun part : D

[solar rover]

knight is too short for this chair

[shrewd nymph]

Each trial roughly gives 1000n, colo 1 is abt 1k so 2x would not be 4k

[potent mesa]

jump...

[meager crane]

Hit it

[astral hornet]

Oh i thought all of them gave 2k my bad

[meager crane]

Wait

[solar rover]

i know but its just funny

[shrewd nymph]

Save him in deepnest --> beat him in colo 1, and at any point save bretta in fungal. Then fight him in her basement

[shrewd nymph]

No worries

[potent mesa]

i saved him in deepnest and defeated him in colo 1

[meager crane]

Has anyone noticed that the knight kinda scares when a roaring animation happens

[shrewd nymph]

Have you saved bretta?

[potent mesa]

wdym fight him in her basement?

[potent mesa]

yea

[shrewd nymph]

In the basement of her house, dreamnail the statue

[solar rover]

@silent reef do you have to get all dream saplings for 112%?

[shrewd nymph]

no

[red gale]

Maybe nkg

[solar rover]

ok thanks

[meager crane]

I cant even do nkg attuned bruh

[potent mesa]

ok tysm

[runic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-dude-laugh-the-clown-dr-reasons-gif-3745936416528146845

[meager crane]

I tried it so many times but nkg is so hard for me

[potent mesa]

can i like beat pantheon 3, then fight him in her basement, and then do pantheon 3 again

[red gale]

Oops. Maybe paintmaster then?

[potent mesa]

will he be there then?

[shrewd nymph]

Yes

Some people do p5 without him then afterwards they unlock him for hog

[runic shuttle]

kids by mgmt

[shrewd nymph]

peak

[meager crane]

Avarage hollow knight fan when u cant no hit one of the hardest bosses on one attempt

[runic shuttle]

no surprises by radiohead

[meager crane]

Not everyone is a god bruh

[runic shuttle]

505 by arctic monkeys

[meager crane]

Im on mobile too

[shrewd nymph]

peak after peak

[silent reef]

peak

[runic shuttle]

i love doing wcs

[meager crane]

I dont have that boss? How to unlock it

[runic shuttle]

last boss of pantheon 2

[red gale]

He's the pantheon 2 boss

[meager crane]

Oh so i should do p2

[runic shuttle]

yeah

[red gale]

Yeah

[runic shuttle]

paintmaster sheo is easier than oro and mato imo

[meager crane]

Shouldi go for all the charms tho

[runic shuttle]

only the ones that you like and use the most

[red gale]

Oro and moto also are a cool mid difficultly radiant imo

[meager crane]

No

I wanna buy that gift

[red gale]

If you have p1 beaten you can do them first

[meager crane]

That the charm shopkeeper gives

I have 2 charms i didnt collect

[north charm]

same

[red gale]

Might aswell do it

[north charm]

i feel like with quick slash and ustrength if you have full health you can completely face tank all his attacks

[red gale]

He's more predictable for sure

[meager crane]

Grubberflys elegy will be so boring... oky bye

[north charm]

that too with the paint brush

[meager crane]

Im going for that

[north charm]

wtf is a baint brush

delicate flower?

[red gale]

Did you do flower quest?

[north charm]

its always the last or 2nd last

never anywhere else for everyone

[red gale]

Maybe you're missing one in forgotten crossroads

[north charm]

brooding mawlek?

is it that one

[red gale]

The centipede room one

It was the last mask for me

[north charm]

there is a mask shard for that?

i thought it was a vessel fragment

[red gale]

Wait

I need to double check

[subtle glacier]

west waterways mask shard and hive mask shard are pretty easily forgotten

[north charm]

i hate the hive one

idk why, just hate it

[solar rover]

what are you guys taking about

[north charm]

mask shards

[solar rover]

i see how many masks you have?

[north charm]

9

[ancient ravine]

Theres one near the elevator that leads to the city of tears in forgetting crossrads

[solar rover]

than you have all the mask shards

[north charm]

yeah but grizou is missing one so thats the discussion

[solar rover]

i see

there iare 2 in forgotten crossroads

[harsh radish]

Is Traitor Lord difficult or do I have a skill issue?

[solar rover]

did he get the fungul waste drop to deepnest shard?

[ancient ravine]

Use sharp shadow

[solar rover]

both kind of

he does 2 masks so you loose health very quickly

[subtle glacier]

does double damage mean difficulty?

[red gale]

Moreso annoying

[solar rover]

other than that its just his pattern

[red gale]

Just double jump for his dash and do a dash for his jump

You can guarantee 2 nail hits every time that way

[north charm]

with quick slash more ofc.

[solar rover]

cheapskate

i did learn it but his brothers did it for free

[north charm]

buy one get 2 free

[harsh radish]

The Knight feels slow compared to playing as Hornet so maybe it's a speed issue

I've beaten most bosses in SS but I haven't yet fought Radiance or done the Pantheons so I'm trying to do them

[red gale]

And don't forget to use ddive for iframes

It always helps in dire situations

[solar rover]

with a trinket on the house

[solar rover]

just remember to check if for ground

[hoary forge]

Playing silksong before beating hollow knight

[red gale]

That's understandable honestly

[ancient ravine]

i love pausing at random times

[red gale]

The knight is a slow dude

[harsh radish]

It's more fun tbh, the movement and combat feels more fluid

Maybe I'm just weird

[solar rover]

pitch forks exist in hollow knight

[red gale]

egg shaped radiance

[north charm]

i thought i was the only one

[solar rover]

radiance be like i want that purse or i wont talk to you for a month

[hoary forge]

It is

[ancient ravine]

i have a screenshot for nkg looking like spider hornet

[hoary forge]

But i think you should get one ending in hk before moving on to silksong

[round geode]

if i do every boss on radiant will i be ready for p5

[harsh radish]

I beat the Hollow Knight but I wanna beat Radiance now

[ancient ravine]

why isn't there thk in hog

[shrewd nymph]

for the most part p5 would be really easy for you

[round geode]

just did uhh pv on ascended now ill do him on radiant wish me luck yall

[upbeat elbow]

Guys Im back

[alpine ibex]

Ill guess that P5 wont be hard either if i manage most of HoG radiant & do AB up to P4AB?

[upbeat elbow]

Easiest grub

[ancient ravine]

Try to beat him attuned no hit then radiant

[red gale]

Cuz I'm in my prime there

[shrewd nymph]

yeah no you'd be very well off

[upbeat elbow]

Yo when did sans become A CHARM

[ancient ravine]

Fair enough

[round geode]

alrr

[alpine ibex]

i just gotta get more consistent at markoth

[solar rover]

again who is this

[subtle glacier]

big nailsmith

[hoary forge]

Ok

[magic storm]

Yeah generally for practice though I recommend just beating them normally 5 times in a row

[magic storm]

Your mother

[quasi cove]

probably some old warrior bug

[opal hearth]

gng PLS tell me theres a mobile apk for the pale court mod

IM STARVING

💔

[harsh radish]

I just beat traitor lord :D

[north charm]

the deepnest part

?

pure vessel suddenly becomes the easiest boss now 😭

[harsh radish]

What do I do with Kingsoul nowww

[shrewd nymph]

equip it and go to the abyss

[north charm]

go to the abyss

and equip it.

[harsh radish]

ight

[mild sorrel]

There isn't.

[north charm]

congrats on the 9 masks

[subtle glacier]

there is one in deepnest

[north charm]

there is only one part that is hard

[solar rover]

as always first try

hornet 2 is easier than hornet 1

[north charm]

if its steel soul you kind of have to.

[north charm]

atp yeah, first one is too slow it trips me up

[north charm]

have you gotten all charm notches

[fresh surge]

lets gooo

[solar rover]

time to name myself as the rightful king of hollownest

[ancient ravine]

Uumuu ascended is hard

[north charm]

every boss suddenly becomes so difficult without quick slash for me

[plush idol]

[north charm]

too rng based

[solar rover]

one of teh only areas you cannot go back to

[north charm]

always unfortunte

[ancient ravine]

What is rng

[shrewd nymph]

random number generator

just means luck

[solar rover]

well yes i feel sad for this oen cause the body of the wyrm is something wish we could dream nail it

[ancient ravine]

Oh yeah

I agree

[tired grove]

they should add a workshop thing to hk

[tired grove]

like fallout 4

or TABS

[subtle glacier]

lumafly is the closest i think

[harsh radish]

voidheart acquiredddd

[north charm]

gl for the colosseum

[north charm]

now you should go back to the black egg temple

[harsh radish]

ohhh alright

[north charm]

you beat path of pain already?!?

[shrewd nymph]

PoP is unrelated

[solar rover]

triple dose of illegal substance

[north charm]

4x dose

[north charm]

well yeah, but it was the last thing for me

[tired grove]

quick moderation

[solar rover]

lol

[harsh radish]

Yeah it took me like 4 hour

but i can beat it in like 15 minutes now

[solar rover]

you know the max we can do is about 57 doses give or take?

[shrewd nymph]

<@&283547423706447872>

[ancient ravine]

I died with uumuu at the same time. Still woon

[shrewd nymph]

glitchless 57 yeah

[solar rover]

using charms and not taking a single hit or bench

[north charm]

amazing

[foggy sable]

getting more is not a glitch

[north charm]

gl not taking dmg and finding every cocoon

[shrewd nymph]

are you referring to nailmaster

[solar rover]

got lost was going to cof

[foggy sable]

getting a nail upgrade resets enemies but not hp

which isn't a glitch but more an exploit

[ancient ravine]

Where tf is that

[shrewd nymph]

eh cooler to think its same as precepts

[north charm]

i also go there everytime 😭

[shrewd nymph]

and smt else, mightve been bosses in sk

[north charm]

some how

[solar rover]

cof or this guy?

[foggy sable]

I want 57 so much

but it is so annoying to do

[solar rover]

i do on my main file he tells lore and is an interesting bug

[shrewd nymph]

35x dosage

[ancient ravine]

The fat guy

[sick heath]

I don't think thats enough

[shrewd nymph]

what even is the max

its like 100 and smt

[solar rover]

never noticed it but we can see his body in the background just how big is he?

[foggy sable]

also lune I got hit to sly in a run can I have some advice for the boss surely

[north charm]

epic

[shrewd nymph]

i learnt the boss from you

but idk depends what you got hit to

[north charm]

yeah

[solar rover]

police got 2 doses left 1

[north charm]

unfortunate

[solar rover]

wth someone is a madman

[foggy sable]

just dashed into him

stupid hit really

[shrewd nymph]

i always dash the wrong way because i try to dash AS i change directions

unironically though we fight him the same basically, maybe just his cyclone we do differently

[foggy sable]

probably nerves tbh as it was the first decent charmless run since getting back to it

[shrewd nymph]

did you do nail binding?

[foggy sable]

I dropped the cyclone punish and just do great slash because I'm a coward

[foggy sable]

eh I got a run to nkg so good enough for now

[icy moat]

Yep I can't beat the radiance

It's settled

[shrewd nymph]

noo i mean his cyclone attack and yeah i dont do cyclone myself unless its ab or harder

[solar rover]

always gets me this bat

[foggy sable]

oh the cyclone yes

[shrewd nymph]

everyone does him the same but his cyclone

from my experience

[foggy sable]

anyway the soul and nail bindings are just there for fun distraction from my main runs

[solar rover]

got arrested for illegal substance

will do it again

[silent reef]

time to practice p5 rate the build

[shrewd nymph]

you gotta rename one of your r5's to shell binding

[pure depot]

Is this good for my first game?

[shrewd nymph]

dwielder > sbody and its perfect

[shrewd nymph]

49h is great

[solar rover]

great

[foggy sable]

I'll do it with a weird build and call it shell binding

[silent reef]

what, no?

[pure depot]

nice

[shrewd nymph]

sbody is a top 5 charm 😭

[silent reef]

in last section I will

[shrewd nymph]

excluding the fact its reliant on qslash

because why wouldnt you have qslash in a boss anyway

[foggy sable]

because you want to be funny and do a wizard build

[shrewd nymph]

id legit struggle to use my soul vessels with that build

[solar rover]

back on drugs

[sick heath]

Magic is cooler then just hitting someone with a sharp stick tbf

[foggy sable]

try it out and just spam spells

[north charm]

lets goo

we love that

[shrewd nymph]

grey you spam shade soul on soul warrior right

[foggy sable]

22 soul per hit and spell twister my beloved

[foggy sable]

yes

[silent reef]

ok here is the build

[shrewd nymph]

i got a good r5 earlier but i realised that i never shade soul him

i just combo him into the wall

and idk why

[foggy sable]

it is carry over from charmless practice

[shrewd nymph]

i stg why do so many people jump over him

easiest boss in the game if you just shade dash through all 3 attacks

[foggy sable]

he is a killer of my ab runs often

[shrewd nymph]

do you shade dash through

[foggy sable]

yes

[shrewd nymph]

i remember someone didnt and they almost had like 4 follies spawn in them

[foggy sable]

you fail to take into account my crippling skill issue in that fight for some reason

[shrewd nymph]

how im genuinely so confused

[foggy sable]

idk

I've done it itemless so I should be good at it but no

[shrewd nymph]

and its not even offensive because ur 5x better than me i just cant understand

[shrewd nymph]

oh yeah LMAO

[foggy sable]

I'm just bad at weird things

[solar rover]

found someone higher on drugs than me

[foggy sable]

one of my early p5ab runs died to soul warrior fun fact

as in died died, pre hitless days

[red gale]

<@&283547423706447872> send him to the shadow realm

[shrewd nymph]

so many bots the last like 20 minutes

[solar rover]

thats not allowed

[red gale]

On another note my journey for RHOG begins now

[solar rover]

would do cof but zote is still in deepnest guess i wil do nosk next

[foggy sable]

and the soul warrior thing is even funnier because I was running r5 at the time so there was so excuse to die in p5ab to him

[sick heath]

177🤔

[north charm]

gl

[silent reef]

not even close

[north charm]

damn i actually died to pv

why is charm binding so hard

[undone cairn]

hi everyone who want play in multiplayer ?

on my host

[silent reef]

nail binding is the worst

[north charm]

i feel like charm is the worst

nail you can get by with charms

[foggy sable]

charm binding is worst, no contest

[silent reef]

no way I js took 5 masks to bv

[keen thorn]

Honestly I'd actually like to do this. But it's just another huge commitment, and idk if I want to take this much time on Silksong rather than something else in hk

[foggy sable]

and it isn't close

[keen thorn]

Since I kinda enjoy the gameplay more in hk

[north charm]

idk, soul can get annoying at times

[shrewd nymph]

charm or shell for sure

[keen thorn]

Wtf discord

[red gale]

[silent reef]

p2 section boys

yeah I know?

yeah I know

I did him no hit

but the entire p2 section overcharmed is not ez

[north charm]

for me its not easy purely because when i see sheo i think of tanking 😭

[elfin radish]

where is mantis village located

[silent reef]

you cant tank overcharmed

[elfin radish]

say wallah

[north charm]

i was gonna say good job.

but then i saw this

😭

[foggy sable]

well you can under 1 circumstance

[silent reef]

not practical

[foggy sable]

no but it is funny to

[silent reef]

bruh Im 4 hp after god tamer

tfi s this

[north charm]

your fine

grimm

[north charm]

yeah unfortunate

i usually get to 3 masks against sheo

but fight ends relatively quick, usually about 15-20 secondsd

but i tank

idgaf about dodging, i straight up go in with my nail

[silent reef]

yea

[north charm]

knowing its the final boss before bench/pantheon

[silent reef]

oooo nice bench

bro the grimm nail art after pumkin is so hot to do

yk whne you like dash slash him the second he gets out of pumkin

or cocoon

or wth you call it

[proud haven]

That's a really good visual for that

[silent reef]

7 masks aftrer watchers shit

[north charm]

thank you

[north charm]

not that bad

could be worse

[foggy sable]

marmu haters unite

[north charm]

wait that is bad

[north charm]

united!

[foggy sable]

yay

[silent reef]

BRO I DIED TO UUMUU

[foggy sable]

this 1 p5 attempt is an hour long already

I have been mildly distracted

[silent reef]

i hate uumuu

[proud haven]

Take a nap fr

P5 aint going anywhere

[foggy sable]

you don't understand it is mid hitless run

it will go somewhere

[silent reef]

just stfu

[foggy sable]

can I introduce you to the build I was running yesterday

behold

this was a serious build for a run

spells

22 soul per nail hit

spells

[foggy sable]

no good 2 notches for it

I spent significant time (5 minutes) crafting a build

and it was a great build

10/10

[solar rover]

to everyone who calls dying to NKG more than 10 times a kill issue i sentence you 10000 GPZ fights back to back you cant end it before you beat them all

[proud haven]

Oh dang I believe in ufr

[solar rover]

and almost all HK players dont know how to dance

[foggy sable]

I got lost kin empty hopped rip

[north charm]

he has no clue what he is doing

like wtf is this

his eyes are barely open

wtf does he see

fr 😭

[solar rover]

will alway have time for this

only 1

[north charm]

yeah but not particularly ethical 😭

[solar rover]

or practical

if you need dream nail fight someone your own sizw

her fantasies are a downgraded version

[north charm]

wtf is your size in this game that can be dream nailed

[solar rover]

except for zote

[solar rover]

alot of stuff but i meant to say fight someone your own size

[north charm]

damn we can yell

impressive

[rigid creek]

Which bosses can I take down to gain more dream essence

[north charm]

'Thou return to cross thine nail with this pure vessel. For what purpose, We can only wonder." - Godseeker

[solar rover]

well most enemies including some bosses are mindless due to infection but the ones who have a mind remember our souless face upon their demise

[rigid creek]

I only beat lost kin

[north charm]

failed champion, soul tyrant, lost kin, wwhite defender and certain dream warriors

[solar rover]

dont ever dreamnail her gain

again

[rigid creek]

Where can I find them

When I previously defeated them?

[tidal pollen]

And zote

[north charm]

corpses of the original version of the bosses

[silent reef]

time to practice uumuumuumuu

[north charm]

zote does not count

no one likes zote

[tidal pollen]

I do

[rigid creek]

Betbet

[rich beacon]

guys I have a question, how does forgotten crossroads become infected crossroads. I thought it would only occur if I defeated a dreamer

[rigid creek]

How tanky is that guy

[solar rover]

they have no thoughts on it cause they dont know what we did, zote will probably lookdown on us anyway even after we beat his ass, and other based onpersonality

[north charm]

yeah thats how it works

[silent reef]

bro im shit

[tidal pollen]

Or get double jump

[rich beacon]

That explains it

[solar rover]

hey shit i am alen

[north charm]

he's not too tanky, he is just too random

[dry jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/911209619924332557/1448333555921981583/togif.gif

[north charm]

yo alen im falcon

[solar rover]

i mean on our spels

[silent reef]

how the fuck do I kill ts

[north charm]

kill what

[solar rover]

who?

[silent reef]

uumuu

[tidal pollen]

Normal gray prince is not that hard

[north charm]

lmao

easiest way is to line up an ouma with uumuu and use shade soul

[silent reef]

fahhhh

[north charm]

or you can lure uumuu to an ouma and hit the ouma into uumuu

[solar rover]

you see most bosses you dream nail have lost their mind and after you get their dream version thei finally have clear thoughts

[tidal pollen]

Idk, you are talking about the knight?

[elfin radish]

why is bretta such a pick me girl 🥀

[north charm]

you should probably dream nail uumuu for soul

[silent reef]

wait why am I doing it on radiant

[solar rover]

you have dream wielder?

[silent reef]

no

[north charm]

its kind of broken for this fight

[solar rover]

well then enjoy your suffering

[silent reef]

fahhh

[solar rover]

try to dream nail it if you can for souls

and keep distance to it untill you have to attack

[north charm]

omg i died to pv

i dont like this game anymore

[silent reef]

yeah I know

the problem is getting the puffer

[proud haven]

W
Time to quit

[tidal pollen]

Wow you are one of many

[north charm]

i feel disgusted

im gonna go radiant markoth now

[tidal pollen]

It’s meant to be an hard boss, it’s okay

[north charm]

i give up p4 for a bit

[north charm]

its supposed to be an easy boss 😭

[silent reef]

lilbro js die

[north charm]

im just fumbling so much now

[tidal pollen]

What 🥀

[silent reef]

BRO

I AM THE VICTIM

[solar rover]

jelly you mean anyway the best way is if you have a direct shot but if you dont hit one and jump behind uumuu... very risky