#hk-discussion
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its either wk fc mawlek or o&m where people just struggle to time it right, or people who see damage = good
s shadow is fun for casual things
so it's optimal for builds focused around sharp shadow
but people say its good, and thats different
Yeah that's my take
oh nono I was just talking abt the fun aspect
If you can basically only use sharp shadow it fucks
I see
gotcha
S tier charm in that instance
buffed weaverlings from 3 to 6 and made them 2x dmg for one more notch
fluknest alone does over abyss shriek damage due to the bug, while with defenders crest at LEAST halfโs that damage
Based I'd like that
u could say that about glowing womb
Thorns of agony > sharp shadow
Would be a cool 2 notch
what?
Imagine doing damage while taking damage
dang that's insane

Nah I said no summons
toa does damage therefore its good
valid logic
basically instant karma
i see
im using a mod that lets me balance charms
I will get your kidneys for 5000 euro
Thorns is def good if you can't use sharp shadow or summons or nail or spells
ah
Sharp shadow users when ddark exists
No
Curses
Yeah I was hoping it'd just work fr
sharp shadow users when using your nail exists
Sharp shadow users when I am inside their domicile
Sharp shadow users when being good at the game exist
The nail is sub-optimal for fun
Too many hk players rely on their nail for every boss imo
me when gruz mother
in my defense, no is so fun for gruz
Lune when the
No is so fun
dream shield: 1.79x speed, 1.79x size, 2 notches
firered when
Explode
Sounds better I hate dshield at base
Who uses it for damage tho
I think dshield should transform into d-dart when crystal dashing and drill you into the enemy and buff the damage of cdash fr
I'd like that one too
what is nart
Nail art
@real otter im in the room with all the Flukemunga
heavy blow just sucks
you dont even want knockback
you want the enemy to stay still
I would make heavy blow grant nail arts the ability to knock bosses out of any attack fr
I know you're trolling
But fun fact: flukenest shaman crest is the third worst spell by damage, only behind regular VS single hits and non shaman flukepoop
there should be some way up
And fun fact #2
I want a charm that makes me and genio explode
Heavy blow's only use case is in the colosseums and even there it sucks lol
It does the same damage in both Vengeful spirit and Shade Soul
Found it
Which is very dumb
That sucks had no idea
Thought it was surely really cool
life blood core and heart decreased notches by 1
I mean
That is true
Anyways
Ye found the junk pit
deep focus heals 3 masks now instead of 2 but 2x length than normal heal instead of 1.65x
Is it this?

Bruh
That's just making the problem worse
If I equip soul devourer and soul eater ,how many soul do you get per hit? and if I equip spell twister which reduces the cost how many spells can I get off?
open that then dream nail the thing that falls out after getting a pick up
i meant 2x length then the normal heal
Alr
old was 1.65x
Flukenest would be sm cooler if it affected the other two spells too
Imagine spewing goop dudes upwards or ddark but it spews dudes at the end too fr
Or like more quirky and ddark also turns you into a goop caccoon while going downward before exploding
can someone gimme a number from 1 -18
12
1
I didnt pick the thing up..
What was it
??
18
Lol that sucks
-3ฯ
basically gives you an alert when you defeat a boss itโs worthless for everything except the % it gives you
22 per hit if you equip both. And also you'll be able to spam spells like crazy
7
Ohhh
19
-3pi thats an irrational number has to be rational plus i already have been given a number
that would just be 1 1/18 so id do 1
WATCH ME BEAT P1 FIRST TRY WITH ALL BINDINGS BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now Iโm hungry
Here๐ฟ
Go goat ๐ซก
Thx
Why do you keep laughing when I tried hunting you down
POPCORN FOR EVERYONE ๐ฟ
Cuz you swinging at me as I fly away is funny
YAY
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homnomnomnom
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POPCORN CANNON GO!

beating rad nkg with the charms i buffed
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youwanna watch in a stream?
Im doing ascended and raidants first๐๐๐
Wut
me beating rad nkg with the charms i buffed
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answer
raidants ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ
good luck
hey chat
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but the cost is that they have the worst aim ever
getting hk in 12 days 
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why 12 days
Popcorn for everyone
Maybe Christmas sales
sale, i always wait for the sale
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So much popcorn 

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i was too impatient for sales so i straight up bought 5 more steam dollars or 20 in my currency
Also gl with it. The game is super great but the metroidvania genre is deffo not for everyone
i might also get silksong
im a gamer, i think i played harder games
not the difficulty
good morning
dont forget about mods
it's the heavy backtracking, required exploration of every nook and cranny, etc etc.
right
i wanna see why everyone talkign about the aspit
oh and especially not having like any movement abilities in the beginning
they arent that hard
all of those are unlockables
just bullet hell type enemies
i completed JSAB wayy wayy before
so im master at bullet hells
try rainworld, its fun
anyways ima sleep now bai chat 
Dont for get your midnight popcorn
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4
someone watch me fr
I dont know
obblobles
idk what that means, i havent played hehe
i quit the watcher knights cause FUCK THEM
W they suck I did them almost dead last in radhog
anyone wanna watch my stream
Was so sorry for you when hte number I chose gave you dogshit
Sure
now im doing obblobles cause they chose 4 im just glad noone choosing a8
join hollow kinght 1
18*
I'll watch after I cook more popcorn
W who's 18
radabsrad
Lolol
18
what
watch the stream
cant rn
fr
that sucks
theyre not that hard
theyre so hard to dodge
spam ||nail arts||
I DID THEm ascended first try at the very least
What should i use with thorns of agony
defender crest spore shroom baldur shell = funneh build
stalwart shell
what is
steal this
against what boss
NOO
nkg
lol
63 new meme
wait didn't I need to walk you through rad nkg
THE BENCH IS A LIE
TEH BENCH IS A LIE
THE BENCH IS A LIE
i made it to distant village and beast's den
lmao
just like the cake ๐ฆ
Im new to hollow knight
Is this mobile hollow knight
yo
Actually
I noticed hollow knight goes on sale for non relevant sales too... so hollow knight in 2 days
Meh no spoilers hehe
FYM buffed
i buffed the bad charms to being kinda meta charms
how much
they still arent better then quick nail and unbreakable strength
maybe 2 or 1.75 times
dam im attempting rad obblobles
but the op charms arent buffed
i did kinda but it is op
I GOT SO CLOSe
Hi chat
WE LOVE GORB
first of all, capybara deco
second of all, ascend with gorb
Third of all, imma go find people to help in hk help
Not really
coolio
They are fine at best
I FUCKING HATE rad obbolobs
yes
Both
coolio
did you get your checkpoint reward yet?
oh yeh
ik its off topic
godseeker plus?
Resets the rng of carefree melody in hog
how does the rng work?
It increases the rate of negating a hit every time you get hit without it activating
oh
To a limit quite high, but not 100%
i see
So theoretically you could get hit for 10 hours for max rng, thats why its allowed
same as gpz entry
CRYSTAL HEART ACQUIRED!
gj
?
I just dropped a quick fun fact
she is
void pale and herrah
Shes a pale weaver
Nuh uh
no herrah and pale king wait are u saying the pale is part void cause idk much about pale king
yeah pale king likes void so hornet void
LIKES or is
how do i get into p5
pale king likes void so she used some black goo to make hornet
go up
last charm?
that's just like the doorhole thingie that opens the path to p5
voidheart
oh
i went up, theres just a soul reffiling pool. i have voidheart
well go up from there
there's a hidden wall by leaves
ohhh
50/52 wat?
Any one plays an instrument?
starts harder ends easier
silksong achievements
A pic of a random mal
wow
well anyway hornet void and that's it
different area
ones pharloom
ones hallownest
the knight just never traveled
to it ig
I know but what he is doing rn
grinding the pantheons trust
Nice what elder bug tho?
dk
That's sad i hope iam still alive ๐ญ
check the pins in this channel gng
ur pretty elder
Nah iam a miner
It's not about the difficultly. Mainly just the running back and forth gameplay
But if you're the truest of gamers you'll overcome it
No
i love adding 35 lifeblood mask in radiant bosses using mods for cosmetical reasons
We love Quirrel donโt we?
quirrel w
If I did die was I a good bug?
maybe
Stealing that
montgomery burns
No prob thats my purpose as elder bug
Fun fact 90% of the background noise was js team cherry breathing in a mic
Rip the goat elder bug
That's sounds fun
chat i died on gruz mother on my first p5 run should i uninstall the game?
Fuck do you think
Yes
bro why is watcher knights possible the most annoying bossfight ive ever done
Nah the most annoying is the daily one with the toilet
with down spell is not that hard tbh
Damn
are you cooked or
whats down spell
Down syndrome
stfu
Like el primo from bs
well the one you press spell and down and it does down spell
I did not know you could do that
oh well so you don't have it
Are challenged?
yeah there's like 3 ones
oh probably not
Me no
the down spell is city of tears
erm actually itโs soul sanctum
you're already in watcher knights so you probably can get it really easy
idc
He is in stie of tiers
https://youtu.be/10MQdIqalZg?si=-atbieyrghO64r-K
If iam not wrong this Lil elder bug
Dive into the mind of a bug! What secrets lay within, waiting to be uncovered. What dangers will be overcome? What treasures will be discovered?
Find out in Hollow Knight!
Footage from Hollow Knight alpha.
More info: http://teamcherry.com.au/hollowknight/
yeh
You act even more corny than I and I am a fucking cornball
yeah
I play guitar but I fucking hate it
wtf is this frame i paused on
why are you so ๐๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ด๐
im not
imagine if you dream nailed PV like that and itโs just a blank black screen
I know what u do
no
Who?
Pure Vessel?
yeh it would just be blank if he is truly pire
pure*
he has no wants nor needs
nor emotions
if we could dream nail it what do you think we would see?
u would see his training
gng
every time we dream nail anyone that's awake we see their thoughts
Shit
not we enter their dreams or some shit
Wrong server
oh yeh
u would see ...
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Everyone what's your favourite boss from hollow Knight? I think I don't have to say ๐
definitley not obblobles
Random spammy attack
aint random
It is spammy though
pure vessel
i think 90% of everyone is pure vessel
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ikg better
Absrad
wats ur least fav boss?
WINGED NOSK
why/
winged nosk
WHY
Hornet 2 is really good
yes
Sheo is second imo
In lore and placement? nah
PV and NKG beat everyone in combat
the fight is just a waiting game
fair
very bad for nail mains
Lore maybe sly and painmaster sheo
nkg and pv so not win out in combat
i FUCKIGN HATE OBBLOBLE
Imo Pure vessel > The knight
they are the hardest fights and since the game is so fucking easy i really like them
i mean its pretty unfair that the knight gets to use charms
Yeah i agree
nah
trust
I'm just stating facts
oblobbles fun
nuh uh
yuh uh
nuih uh

Self explanatory lol
Sheo's a pretty cool dude
Still think he should have a bit more hp tho
I finish silksong yeaaaahh
wrong chat tho
-# FUCK Obblobles radiant
silk. issue.
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vc i can try help
i got so close earlier
Ghost. I see you've faced the place of your birth, and now drape yourself in the substance of its shadow.
Though our strength is born of similar source, that part of you, that crucial emptiness, I do not share.
Funny then, that such darkness gives me hope. Within it, I see the chance of change.
A difficult journey you would face, but a choice it can create. Prolong our world's stasis or face the heart of its infection.
It's bullet hell
Whoever said hornet is void there you go
its not too bad
hi ceaser zeppelli who got slimed
Who thought hornet was void
Theres no hornet shade in silksong
Hornet is silk
how do i get this mask shard
Keep searching
silksong slander in #hk-discussion it can't be
wym keep searching
...
alr thx
Your opinion is void
void void void
Shade lord is void
nah he is light
don't you see the light that comes out of their six eyes
Yeah whats up with that
see it is light
well every mystery solved hornet void shade lord light everything checks out
Hello howโs everyoneโs day/night been so far?
mid
i ate a pile of dirt
it was rather good
That damn vampire is FINALLY DEAD! >~< What a fight.
What is the most underrated and overrated charms?
quick focus for underrated
overrated for mark of pride
no debate it's objectevely that
Imo overrated is stedy body u can't pogo
And underrated idk
steady body is great
@fresh surge
which boss is this? flying nosk?
flying nosk is in p5
another one
Mark of pride is good and underrated isn't quick focus its rightly rated
that's... let me open the game
that's killing the nailsmith
mark of pride is good and overrated
its a fake skil upgrade but it feels so good
That one there is killing Soul Tyrant
mark of pride is good but not as good as people put it
i see will have to see what that is
go up
that is when you kill the nailsmith, i believe
p4 doesnt count?
that saw doesnt allow me to pogo dash climb
nope u have to dream nail the soulmasters body
p4 is an achievement, but it's different one
you have to climb the wall like jump dash jump dash again and then climb fast
p1-p5 are all achievements, plus you need it for full completion, but it's at the bottom
that's killing soul tyrant
hmmm most i can do in my old safe but some need a new one including neglect nailsmith
you don't need p5 for 112% tho
I meant p4 since that's the one he was asking about
three split path achievements
banish purity and neglect
finishing/banishing, saving/leaving Zote, bug yaoi/murder
these two are both pantheon of the hollow nest achievement right
last is banishing grimm troupe without fighting NKG
the one above is p5 and the below is just 112% you don't need p5
i have 112%
Ngl ive done better with pv than I did with sly :-:
you can't banish grimm troupe after fighting NKG gng
do i fight regular radiance to get that now?
it doesn't matter which ending you get
you can even do sealed siblings
so yeah if you want you can
so any ending ok
any charm tips for dream ver of false knight
you could do Godhome for 112% that would be aura
go under him
sprintmaster and dashmaster
whenever he jumps go under him
i will just do abs radiance when i feel ready for p5 but p4 was a headache so not gonna do p5 rn
it takes 40 mins
depends on what you have but generally for anything just go shaman stone strenght and quick slash
and i am bad at arial fights
whenever he jumps away to do the big wave attack dash away, jump, dash towards him and slap him
aerial?
probably the charm that makes it so that you don't get sent backwards when you hit a bug
Stay close except when he slams, dash away for that, walk under when he jumps
STEADY BODY ON TOP BABYYYY
If you spam him he goes down so quick
yeas
it doesnt give any soul so if you want sould get dream catcher other than that focus where he jumps
yeah 3 howling wraiths + shaman stone and his gone
nah there's enough time to get 2 dream nail and the rest is with nail hits
maybe quick focus dream wielder strenght and quick slash
rate my playlist
if he jumps forward just dash and turn back and hit if he does backward you have to see where the rocks are falling while jumping
stardust like stardust crusaders???? 1293818231/123912312312312312312312312312
never heard even one
How many hits does pv take till each stagger (unbreakable strength and pure nail)
the best song is probably "gaurdian of the former seas"
ok will check out
12 hits in 9 or less seconds
coff
Ight
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idk i either die or kill him.... since i continouly attack him he never really stays staggered
no wait actually every 12 hits or every 9 hits if done in 9 or less seconds
I can't relate tbh
Ahh ok ok
not gonna touch steel soul ode
I have done PV radiant so many times it's child's play to me
mode
nono it's actually baby's work
why tho
you know that kight and thk are the same age right?
One sec
thk is probably a lil older
in my first i died sooo many times i think the total is above 400
you get better tho
try doing speedrun so you can get better and
radiant some bosses
ik its not the bosses i am afraid of
like what then
its the platforming
never got good at those most bosses i can just go to my first save file to learn them if i feel like it
so in this i have to kill zote kill nailsmith and then banish the troupe not complet the ritual for the achievements
while try and do it in 50 hours
5 hours sorry
you can do it in different save files tho
you can do the speedrun one in 5 hours and then go and complete the other ones
you're stuck in godhome with all nail upgrades masks vessels and charms
i see
i misclicked into steel soul mode
guess i am doing this now
2% to 112% game
fate
what's left
you're deep fried and then vacuum sealed
Lmao
Its the stupid gallien on p3
I just died to hollow knight on a steel soul run :(
I forgot where was uumuu placed
it was the one before the one before the one before the last one no?
so yeah
any advice on how to get better arial fights in hk i want? i play on pc
laptop
does salubra's blessing count for %? kinda lazy to go to her again
think it does
do you use controller?
as far as i know no
cu i got it and i got %
keyboard and mouse
about uumuu you can treat is as practically a safe zone'
path of pain is so fun wtf
not rlly lmao
its a nuke zone
Idk but in aereal fights i usually use nail arts to get soul and then spells to hit
reall no kidding
also pogo if they don't have a shield or anything that protects them
k mean its easy for u to say cuz uve done p3
sly seems easy
well the objective of this save is to get better at spells and arial combat
first uumuu attacks have enough gap that you can heal twice pair that with dream catcher you can get out of the fight with full sould and masks
practice just will help
i would put the fat elites from halo series
force yourself to never heal though
and try to fight bosses without ever touching the ground
i see
a funny one to try that i dont think is to hard is traitor lordd
oh yeah he just
jumps
dashes
and hits the ground in a fit of rage
just an angry baby
too easy
yeah you basically need to do it without touching the ground to make it even partly difficult
and even then hes easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJfnRhD2iE&t=419s
this was not a good run by me and it was one of the tries i fell to sly but go to 7:07
I think it's going to be an Sly beats me up playlist.
for uumuu
pure vessel is hard but not that hard
not purevessel
is easy enough to get wrecked everytime i fight h im
i was down to 1 mask in middle then i played properly so i got back up
AB pure vessel?
no rad obblobles he beat it 3 times before i beat it onec ๐ญ
but when he lefty
i immiedatley beat the
m
gimme a number from 1-17
17
ik but what abt gallien
...
oh come on why do you even make it an option
watch you doing what
absrad rad AB white spells old nail?
NOOOO
then it's not worth watching
just rad absrad
Pretty fun
boring
first you have to soul shriek where he spawns and then continue doing it when you can, his scythe is the isssue as unlike other balls it homes in on youso you have to save you dashes depending on its direction just dash away when itd down and coming on you in opposite direction
Well twin aint u doing silksong
8 minute fight

no
k ty
112 then rad hog then p5 then ab p1 p2 p3 p4 then ab p5 then uhhhh idk
i have been summoned
thats my goals
i beat it tyhe second u left
who pinged me
yall ive 110% hk i have p3 and p4 to go do i js skip then and move onto sk or go to sk after 112%
Alright
i did
gg
i am also no that skilled but what helped me is postive my fight clips here and people gave me advice
yeh it might take a few years
i was just bad luck ig ๐
u = bad luck
do up to P5
LOL
Did allat in 1 week jus copy me
its hard now
my charm build or yours\
but it will get easier
after p5
You will unage 5 years less by removing zote
Yet you won't have the bragging rights
i aint doin p5
i was kidding about years but a singke week HOW MUCH U WERE PLAYING
hmm fat smash or pass
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zote will be last to be radianted
no p5
i never beat him
Since i had school id say maybe 3h per day
markoth?
You'll have both the satisfaction and the LORE which is important because silksong is a sequel
FUCK
ive already seen the lore
you say that now. But you should totally try
on yt
@wary hound did you use my charm build or yours
path of pain is annoyingly fun
ok hear me out
for who
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Use mine
<@&283547423706447872>
wait idr what mine was
well they all eeping
damn
w but ascended wat do i take of
just spam things till it goes so far up it doesn't appear
for a secong i thouhg i saw stalwart on there
Hmmm
eater
Me omw to use heavy blow after finding out it decreases the stagger counter by 1 (it's still ass):
i lwk read grub eater
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quickslash strength longnail baldurs shell and shaman stone @wary hound
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Tbh i did my ascended bosses on overcharmed
w 13 notches
aren't you doing rad absrad
Cs since i had to do radiant after if i couldnt beat ascended on overcharm it would be useless
I want to do my radiant bosses not overcharmed because i don't want to rely on it
i have to beat ascended i forgot to say that
oh
Gm
Do it charmless
then drop baldurs shell
Gm :)
I'll do it charmless in AB
Whatchu guys up to?
Cornball
rad absrad took me like 2 to 3 hours so dont be mad if it takes you over an hour lol
He is used to it dw
its slightly harder than rad obbleobbles
wha
1 hour is nothing some bosses radiant took me 4 hours of forgot whom but most take atleast 1 hr
how
Nono i meant to say you're a cornball twin
do you guys do radiant in a day?????
i think only like 3 rad bosses took me over an hour
Everyone aint gifted like me
it was 1 rad boss that i have
i skip attuned so
Depends on the boss in question lol
i less skille
Tbh MY top 3 hardest radiant was
1 radiance
2 watcher knights
3 markoth
These were the only annoying ones
for me it was uumuu markoth absrad
I lwk second tried ummu
i dont think uumuu took over an hour but it was ragebait
lol
not obblobles??
I used grubberfly elegy trust me it melt em
also markoth took me like half an hour max
bro ur just fucking better
oh so you cheesed them ๐ฅ (Ik it's legal but idc)
i got lucky
Markoth alone took me like half a day
rip
Sorry for using a charm brochacho
with several bosses
not really elegy does like half damage
i respect that
took me like 4 hours :(
its not as bad as me making sun fall use dash master
And u don't generate soul from it
So really it's more of a handicap imo
not really
Nah
Nah it's easier to do elegy
the extra range is good
Cuz ur normal nail still do same dmg
yeah
i respect elegy
how would it be a handicap?
No soul = no spells
i never thought of that
Its not like thorns or TRASH shadow that are worst than no charms
I did radiant markoth with nail arts out of pride
dammit uumuu and markoth wouldve been so much easier
but you can still hit with normal nail
true fuck rad watcher knights
and when i beated him i then used elegy and instantly destroyed him
same but i used spells too
oh yeah that too
radiant watcher knights suck ass
Do NOT disrespect my dearest baby sharpshadow
use sharp shadow
Are you saying sharp shadow is good brochacho
took me half an hour max
No just in general
sharp shadow users love this slop charm more than their own parents
<@&283547423706447872>
Free money <@&283547423706447872>
im just saying its underrated
Oh nvm
I almost never take it off brotato chip
i fucking HATE ABS RAD cause the background so hard to see the orbs
why
Fym underrated every noobs glaze it like it was the best charm
its not the best but everyone hating on it
Deserved
no what
sharp shadow only has use with dashmaster which is even more niche
what
Sharp shadow is good in almost every situation (exept WP)
peak
Git gud
I TRIED to use sharp shadow agaisnt pv back in the days and it was so bad i had to take it off
i dont need a charm to do 1x my nail damage when
my nail does 1x my nail damage 
sharp shadow is not good against pv
highly do not recommend
It aint good agaisnt anything
more than that even especially when you have unbreakable strength and fury
thats 125% more damage
against some radiant bosses the extra dash distance makes the timings easier
thats basically why its useful
the extra distance
not the damage
There is always better options
the distance
Only like watcher knights and maybe doritos lord
I'd argue the extra range it gives is fantastic against pv
hmm
every boss is very possible and learnable on radiant without sharp shadow
useful against oro and mato
Until you stagger that guy and he just falls on top of you
If you stagger him with the dash u will get damaged btw
you can say the same with every other charm
True
Great minds think alike
we shouldnt be dashing through oro and mato on the ground regardless because theyre so tubby
Sharp shadow is bad, but it can be fun
How does that even happen to you guys that legit never happened once for me
Get the second part of the sentence out and we agree
Sharp shadow uumuu though
That legit happend EVERYTIME i tried to use that bum charm
Whats the point of sshadow on ummu
against what boss
UR A BUM
1x nail damage
ive never had that problem
yes but sharp shadow is just all around bad and doesnt make a run easier


