Maybe just not the gameplay
#hk-discussion
mild sorrel
worthy peak
Only the fan animations. And aus
mild sorrel
Being able to do more than just dodge is for sure better
opaque canopy
playing anything thats more than a 7.5/10 makes undertale look like a 6/10
mild sorrel
Undertale was stull fun doe
sick heath
Being able to do more than just dodge is for sure better
Which is why deltarune is good
worthy peak
Good music
opaque canopy
Undertale was stull fun doe
if you get spoiled all stuff it just looks trash
undertale feels like a movie and not a game
worthy peak
undertale feels like a movie and not a game
And yet it could never work as a movie
Weird isn't it
opaque canopy
lets UNDER and TALE LETS UNDER TALE
sick pivot
Nightmare grimm fight is ass
shrewd nymph
People gonna hate that take
opaque canopy
whats the best mod that buffs bad charms
tribal spire
I have 106% on hk and still struggling on the Trial of the Fools just because of the wall jumping part where you can't heal
definition of skill issue 🙏
shrewd nymph
I have 106% on hk and still struggling on the Trial of the Fools just because of...
Try charge nail arts to great slash and 1 shot the minions as they spawn
tribal spire
Should i use the nailmaster's glory, because i have every charm except unbreakable greed unbreakable heart and carefree melody
i have unbreakable strenght
Therefore what charms would you suggest? I also have all 11 notches
opaque canopy
i buffed dreamshield so much yet it still sucks
shrewd nymph
Should i use the nailmaster's glory, because i have every charm except unbreakab...
Its a great charm for colos
You can 1 shot all the annoying flyers
tribal spire
True
foggy sable
nmg is just a great charm
shrewd nymph
Therefore what charms would you suggest? I also have all 11 notches
Strength shaman at the very least
Catcher is great, qfocus can be nice, nmg is great, mop is nice etc
worthy peak
Therefore what charms would you suggest? I also have all 11 notches
Quickslash
shrewd nymph
Qslash for colo isnt worth
opaque canopy
i made glowing womb 3 notches but have more dmg and 12 of those glowing wombs
worthy peak
Qslash for colo isnt worth
I misunderstood
opaque canopy
i made glowing womb 3 notches but have more dmg and 12 of those glowing wombs
i balanced glowing womb better then the devs
tribal spire
I didnt even think about the nailmaster's glory before thats a very good tip, thanks.
worthy peak
For colo ( and everyone might hate me for this) I suggest quickfocus and stalwart she'll as well as strength nailmasters glory and probably soul catcher
sick heath
For colo ( and everyone might hate me for this) I suggest quickfocus and stalwar...
I hate you for this/j
tribal spire
Quick focus and stalwart shell was good for Nosk, aswell as the shaman stone
worthy peak
Catcher is great
Ehh it's better than twister some times sometimes worse but they are both usually mid
opaque canopy
guys i can balance charms
worthy peak
(when grounded)
opaque canopy
new balance changes chat
shrewd nymph
Ehh it's better than twister some times sometimes worse but they are both usuall...
👀
havent seen twister called mid in a minute
worthy peak
new balance changes chat
Buff quickslash
worthy peak
havent seen twister called mid in a minute
Well I definitely don't see much in it
opaque canopy
charm notches increased from 2 to 3
worthy peak
Buff mop
shrewd nymph
Catcher and twister are both great, the better one depends on how much you heal
tribal spire
Im more of a nail based player than spell but i do find them useful in pantheons
opaque canopy
dream shield when lower than 50% hp it gains a shield
worthy peak
Catcher and twister are both great, the better one depends on how much you heal
Most people seem to argue that twisters just better and I never understood why they would
opaque canopy
am i a good balancer
worthy peak
am i a good balancer
You have to remember synergies
shrewd nymph
Most people seem to argue that twisters just better and I never understood why t...
Because they just see good player use it without knowing why
If you heal a good amount then catcher is better
foggy sable
yes
shrewd nymph
The only unconsidered con is if you have full soul, then twister is just better
opaque canopy
You have to remember synergies
like
tribal spire
My personal opinion is, i will only try mods after i have 112% the game and its not far away
worthy peak
If you heal a good amount then catcher is better
I think it's about 60% spells to make it better
I remember calculating at some point
No idea how well I remember the results really
opaque canopy
My personal opinion is, i will only try mods after i have 112% the game and its ...
mine is over 100% I WILL use mods
earnest widget
How many grubs are there at the tower of love?
earnest widget
Thanks
foggy sable
spell twister is so good
tribal spire
after defeating collector
foggy sable
shame 2 costs aren't very good in lategame builds
earnest widget
I'm trying to get all grubs by memory and this is one of two things i've been unable to remember as of now
worthy peak
It's grater than 60 apparently
Cause that over 100 uses gives catcher a 17 soul edge
opaque canopy
buffed livecore heart notch ammount from 2 to 1
shrewd nymph
shame 2 costs aren't very good in lategame builds
what
foggy sable
the biggest advantage of twister is burst damage
shrewd nymph
i often use twister + 3x3 when its not oc
foggy sable
steady body
shrewd nymph
Which isnt worth wasting the last notch for half the bosses
I use twister and sbody like 50/50
foggy sable
nmg
worthy peak
the biggest advantage of twister is burst damage
Yeah if you use soul at same speed as gain consistently 80% appears.to be the tipping point
shrewd nymph
Twister is definitely better than nmg atleast
worthy peak
But the burst is probably very good somt
shrewd nymph
I'll settle on that
worthy peak
Twister is definitely better than nmg atleast
Depends the challenge surely
foggy sable
nmg is top 6 charms if you exclude fury
worthy peak
Sometimes soul gain is difficult
dense fjord
7th p5 attempt ended yet again by gpz
shrewd nymph
Depends the challenge surely
Theres a few bosses where its not the case, but that applies to like all charms
steep coral
hallo, i'm currently on a Steel Soul run and i've got a question..
if i die during a Dreamer fight, does it destroy my run?
dense fjord
hallo, i'm currently on a Steel Soul run and i've got a question..
if i die dur...
Nuhuh
shrewd nymph
nmg is top 6 charms if you exclude fury
Eh its not outrageous
Its like low A for me
worthy peak
nmg is top 6 charms if you exclude fury
Really
dense fjord
Lune is gpz a common p5 run ender
shrewd nymph
hallo, i'm currently on a Steel Soul run and i've got a question..
if i die dur...
Assuming you mean dream realm, only radiance and white palace kill you
foggy sable
Really
quickslash, strength, shaman, steady body, MoP, nmg in that order imo
for lategame anyway
earnest widget
Wait white palace kills you?
worthy peak
quickslash, strength, shaman, steady body, MoP, nmg in that order imo
MoP should be higher :)
Cause MoP
agile pewter
Ew
earnest widget
Uh oh
shrewd nymph
Mop is lower if anything
foggy sable
MoP is where it belongs
agile pewter
:)
shrewd nymph
But either way, no
foggy sable
however I wouldn't run MoP without steady body, qs, and strength
cerulean crescent
not this time
worthy peak
AHH but you don't realise my inability to do spacing
Instantly boosting nail range charms hugely
shrewd nymph
smt like strength is literally just added dmg, you cant achieve that effect without it
foggy sable
and if I don't have MoP I will always have nmg
opaque canopy
MASSIVE BALANCE CHANGE: you dont lose grubelegdy buff after taking dmg but damage is now 25% of nail damage
worthy peak
MASSIVE BALANCE CHANGE: you dont lose grubelegdy buff after taking dmg but damag...
Basically unusable
Nah I misunderstood I think
But still pretty bad
opaque canopy
Basically unusable
it was 50% now 25%
shrewd nymph
Elegy always been ass
worthy peak
it was 50% now 25%
Things took ages to kill with it anyway this doubles the already huge time that you need to pay attention if using elegy strats
And people can't keep concentration for that long
worthy peak
now you dont need to be full hp
How is that 'exactly'
foggy sable
Elegy always been ass
elegy is fun if only it was good
worthy peak
Doesn't solve how tiring it would be to use
opaque canopy
How is that 'exactly'
you dont need to be full hp for the perk to work
worthy peak
you dont need to be full hp for the perk to work
So it now takes four times longer than regular nail. You become tired you take damagemyou die
foggy sable
old nail elegy damage only please with 1 damage per hit
shrewd nymph
elegy is fun if only it was good
Like how sharp shadow looks sick but is horrific
foggy sable
yes
shrewd nymph
I wish it like did more dmg but no distance or reduced cd or whatever
opaque canopy
So it now takes four times longer than regular nail. You become tired you take d...
Ok fine now its 35% of the nail damage
shrewd nymph
Just not inhibiting
foggy sable
if I were good at the game I would do runs with elegy
worthy peak
Ok fine now its 35% of the nail damage
Might just be okay then
I would just take away the entire health requirement
vivid creek
nmg is top 6 charms if you exclude fury
NMG my beloved
thick elk
can someone explain why flukenest is good
opaque canopy
also buffed butterfly elegdy with MOP combo
foggy sable
NMG my beloved
nmg enjoyers unite
opaque canopy
now the range of the aoe is 75% bigger
foggy sable
can someone explain why flukenest is good
because it is bugged to do way more damage than it should
foggy sable
it has a lingering hitboxs bug so hits multiple times basically
vivid creek
where do we think flukenest ranks if the player knows how to use it properly
It feels like it could be nearly top 5, maybe top 7-ish
thick elk
after hearing that ez top 5
vivid creek
I'm just too used to regular ss
Flukes feel awkward, but I can see why it's so busted
vivid creek
Poor hornet & lost kin
vivid creek
like marmu
Maybe I ditch MoP for flukes in r5 then 
vivid creek
I'll check a few speedrunning vids ig
foggy sable
you should ask the p5 speedrunners/112 runners if you want to learn flukes
sturdy ivy
you should ask the p5 speedrunners/112 runners if you want to learn flukes
Do you know the mechanics?
worthy peak
Not like charm = low rank in an otherwise use based list
worthy peak
Which is why shaman is c tier
vivid creek
wut
foggy sable
Which is why shaman is c tier
makes me sad
vivid creek
Who would do such a thing
worthy peak
Maybe B tier
foggy sable
fireball double hits are some of the best things in the game
worthy peak
fireball double hits are some of the best things in the game
I probably should use it slightly more
foggy sable
it is very strong
worthy peak
There are so many charms I have never even equipped
foggy sable
but the main thing is the fireballs feel so good
worthy peak
Shaman is not one of those though
vivid creek
fireball double hits are some of the best things in the game
Dream warriors & oblobble cheat code
foggy sable
lost kin too
vivid creek
Oh tru
worthy peak
lost kin too
Anything is a cheat code with lost kni
vivid creek
also soul master/tyrant & watchers tbh
worthy peak
He staggers to easy
autumn halo
I hope whoever made the room leading to fog canyon with the jumping bubble stuff can go fuck himself hard
Most inconsistent shit
foggy sable
hornet double hits as well
vivid creek
And uumuu, lol
autumn halo
You hit down and it puts you on the side tf
vivid creek
ss doublehits are cracked
foggy sable
xero triple hits
vivid creek
rip xero
worthy peak
Absrad double hits should be used in spell only speedkills
Except it's probably still less damage than abyss shriek
foggy sable
eh
opaque canopy
oh no.
vivid creek
xero triple hits
tbf that's the same damage as a right shriek
But it's a lot easier to hit
foggy sable
they are good if you have more than 3 casts to get back into soul gain efficiency
foggy sable
tbf that's the same damage as a right shriek
But it's a lot easier to hit
I swear 4 hits can happen
I swear
vivid creek
I'll take your word for it, lol
worthy peak
But I'm certainly never hitting it
foggy sable
triple hits are consistent though
vivid creek
Isn't there an fc/fk triple/quad hit too?
with like really good timing so you get the mace hitbox on both sides
foggy sable
Isn't there an fc/fk triple/quad hit too?
with like really good timing so you ge...
there is and it works charmless
at least for triples iirc
worthy peak
Isn't there an fc/fk triple/quad hit too?
with like really good timing so you ge...
Triple os definitely there
I have done it multiple times
By accident mainly
foggy sable
the timing of it is much easier with shaman
but you can use it in charmless to stagger lock fc
vivid creek
Noice
worthy peak
I don't really need it though
Cause attuned is stagger locked anyway
With just like 2 single hita
vivid creek
Usually 2 shrieks + 3 nail hits does it
Idk why but when doing double shrieks a lot of the time I only get 7/8 hits
worthy peak
but you can use it in charmless to stagger lock fc
Oh wait I read it wrong again
Yeah I get it now
foggy sable
it helps on soul tyrant as well
halcyon latch
Usually 2 shrieks + 3 nail hits does it
Idk why but when doing double shrieks a...
what are yall talking about
zealous skiff
what are yall talking about
scroll up
tropic skiffBOT
raw canyon
Whats yalls placement of HK?
(New Checkpoint event of Discord)
-# the 3/4 of the 269 Roblox sessions were all spent in a small game called Guts & Blackpowder
copper spruce
Whats yalls placement of HK?
(New Checkpoint event of Discord)
Never played it
raw canyon
Never played it
You JUST joined today?
shrewd nymph
6th time hes joined the server
raw canyon
Wha
shrewd nymph
hes been here since the ancient times
raw canyon
Never played it
Then how-
merry pagoda
Hi
raw canyon
G'day mate
merry pagoda
Whats yalls placement of HK?
(New Checkpoint event of Discord)
1st
merry pagoda
G'day mate
G day to you too
shrewd nymph
Don't believe lune he's lying
merry pagoda
Never played it
Why did you skip the first game?
raw canyon
Gahdayum
merry pagoda
Valid placement lol
If silk song was there than hk would be second but it isn't
raw canyon
If silk song was there than hk would be second but it isn't
Yea im waiting till i beat P5 first
merry pagoda
Yea im waiting till i beat P5 first
Same i haven't played it too I plain on doing 112% before silk song
copper spruce
Why did you skip the first game?
I never played either game
remote stirrup
Yeah the 112%'ll get you set
copper spruce
Ai
Explode
raw canyon
. _.
remote stirrup
But it's just a bit more complicated movement wise imo
raw canyon
Yea ive seen the jump mechanisms..
shrewd nymph
P5 has 43 bosses ffs
42
remote stirrup
It's a lot more fluid and enjoyable just might take like a little to get used to
merry pagoda
Okay well Silksong has more bosses
More fun
quartz cave
@shrewd nymph
shrewd nymph
@quartz cave
quartz cave
hi.
merry pagoda
I have heard some ppl say silk song movement isn't as smooth as hk movement is that true
shrewd nymph
ive only even known you as the fox
shrewd nymph
I have heard some ppl say silk song movement isn't as smooth as hk movement is t...
imo hk is alot more smooth
raw canyon
I have heard some ppl say silk song movement isn't as smooth as hk movement is t...
It should be smooth bcz its SILKsong amiright
merry pagoda
imo hk is alot more smooth
I never played the second game soo ig I'll see it for myself
quartz cave
that pfp is so weird to see still
hmmmm it feels very right to me
its my default pfp
raw canyon
its my default pfp
Reminds me of Donald Duck
quartz cave
ive only even known you as the fox
ive changed names like at least 15 times...
merry pagoda
I've never played either hk or silk kong
Yeah it's almost like your pfp is not Grimm
quartz cave
why is it Q
idk its an Australian kids show iirc
remote stirrup
artic fox
quartz cave
Ossie Ostrich
raw canyon
why is it Q
Quack? Quackity? Quacking? Middle names👍
copper spruce
Ossie Ostrich
You smell
shrewd nymph
ive lived in aus my whole life and have never heard of that
quartz cave
quartz cave
do i know you 
merry pagoda
do i know you <:grubthink:371797157629657109>
azure junco
Yo
quartz cave
<:corny:309365508682285057>
hmmm
merry pagoda
azure junco
Do anyone play Roblox??
quartz cave
you feel like an alt ngl
merry pagoda
Do anyone play Roblox??
No
azure junco
Anyone else?
shrewd nymph
roblox been dead for like a year now
ever since gag got popular and a bit before that
rich pike
Whats yalls placement of HK?
(New Checkpoint event of Discord)
102 hk sessions 
copper spruce
you feel like an alt ngl
I am an alt
merry pagoda
Anyone else?
This is a hk and ss server you probably should go to a Roblox server
azure junco
roblox been dead for like a year now
because of the shelp situation
copper spruce
My main account is char aznable
quartz cave
I am an alt
trur
merry pagoda
Soda pop
cerulean solstice
guys help me beat funny red guy (nkg)
merry pagoda
guys help me beat funny red guy (nkg)
Tip don't die
cerulean solstice
Tip don't die
.
cerulean solstice
what charms should i use
remote stirrup
sharp shadow
merry pagoda
what charms should i use
Depends on your playstyle
merry pagoda
sharp shadow
Sharp shawdow is a Underrated charm
sick pivot
Where are my minions
merry pagoda
Where are my minions
At crystal peak there mining away
mossy tinsel
why the fuck is brooding mawlek in the colosseum of fools😭
sick pivot
sick pivot
At crystal peak there mining away
I thought they're in the abyss
merry pagoda
I thought they're in the abyss
The abyss is just you palace
merry pagoda
why the fuck is brooding mawlek in the colosseum of fools😭
Because your not supposed to have fun in hk hk is a game about pain and only pain
meager crane
What is the arguably best charm build
naive spruce
I actually fell asleep
merry pagoda
What is the arguably best charm build
Sharp shadow
shrewd nymph
Sharp shadow
meager crane
Thats so true xd
vivid cave
What is the arguably best charm build
prolly || strength, shaman, qslash, longnail ||
sick pivot
The abyss is just you palace
Uh
meager crane
prolly || strength, shaman, qslash, longnail ||
I use that actually
sick pivot
I like my place graved
vivid cave
I use that actually
nice
merry pagoda
prolly || strength, shaman, qslash, longnail ||
I think he asked for a charm not a built lol
sick pivot
meager crane
I said build
sick pivot
I said build
He said build
vivid cave
I think he asked for a charm not a built lol
he didn't
merry pagoda
copper spruce
Sharp shadow
merry pagoda
shrewd nymph
Sharp shadow
hush
sand wharf
defenders crest lets you get more dialogue and the leg eater gives you better prices when you have it equipped
merry pagoda
sick pivot
Peak profile 🔥
sick pivot
https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-hk-hollow-knight-sealed-siblings-gif-1772446...
Drying vessel
copper spruce
Sharp shadow sucks
sick pivot
Sharp shadow sucks
Skill issue
merry pagoda
Sharp shadow sucks
sick pivot
hmm whats going on
World is ending
merry pagoda
Drying vessel
Tiny knight
meager crane
Sharp shadow is mid tbh
meager crane
There are a lot more better charms to use on a build
merry pagoda
Skill issue
sick pivot
There are a lot more better charms to use on a build
Skill issue
foggy sable
sharp shadow is so good on nkg and everyone should pair it and dashmaster on the fight
overcharming of course
copper spruce
Ok how is it a skill issue
sick pivot
sharp shadow is so good on nkg and everyone should pair it and dashmaster on the...
Ah yes dashmaster
Everyone's favourite
meager crane
Skill issue
Avarage hollow knight fan that say skill issue when u say your OPINION
sick pivot
Avarage hollow knight fan that say skill issue when u say your OPINION
Skill issue
keen zenith
Bro I’m a lobster
shrewd nymph
Avarage hollow knight fan that say skill issue when u say your OPINION
hating s shadow is the opposite of a skill issue dw
sick pivot
Bro I’m a lobster
Im'a boil you up
merry pagoda
Avarage hollow knight fan that say skill issue when u say your OPINION
Skill issue
sick pivot
hating s shadow is the opposite of a skill issue dw
Skill issue
meager crane
Skill issue
You must be funny at parties
sick pivot
You must be funny at parties
Hmmm
meager crane
Skill issue
Yiu must be funny at partys
copper spruce
Shaman stone sucks
foggy sable
the thing is sharp shadow sucks
sick pivot
Shaman stone sucks
JUMP EM
foggy sable
sadly
sick pivot
meager crane
Shaman stone sucks
Okay this one is skill issie
keen zenith
Shaman stone sucks
What in fresh hell did you just say
sick pivot
Shaman stone sucks
Skill issue
foggy sable
wait hang on I have one
subtle hull
steady body is the only charm worth talking about
meager crane
Bro said one of the best charms on the game sucks
shrewd nymph
wait hang on I have one
qslash?
meager crane
steady body is the only charm worth talking about
Qslash?
foggy sable
quick slash is a mid nail charm surely
sick pivot
steady body is the only charm worth talking about
Brother I can't live without ts
shrewd nymph
quick slash is a mid nail charm surely
so real
merry pagoda
Yiu must be funny at partys
Couldn't think of anything better so you just copy paste the same reply lol
copper spruce
quick slash is a mid nail charm surely
True
sick pivot
copper spruce
https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908
You know i never lie
idle belfryBOT
therealfirered
sick pivot
Shaw
meager crane
Couldn't think of anything better so you just copy paste the same reply lol
And u couldnt think of anything but say the same sentence "skill issue" when someone says its opinions
sick pivot
And u couldnt think of anything but say the same sentence "skill issue" when som...
Skill issue
shrewd nymph
12 year old chat eek
sick pivot
sick pivot
12 year old chat eek
Guh
foggy sable
Retreat to anyradcord
to bingycord smh
copper spruce
Is lune even in bingycord
sick pivot
shrewd nymph
nope
merry pagoda
quick slash is a mid nail charm surely
Fr on most hard late game bosses you can't even get that second hit on quick Slash
shrewd nymph
just anyrad and hkt
foggy sable
get in bingycord
silent reef
I threw so hard
went from sub 4 pace to sub 7 pace
Ima js give up and do some practicing to maybe clutch a sub 6
foggy sable
Fr on most hard late game bosses you can't even get that second hit on quick Sla...
qs is the best charm in the game no contest
lategame anyway
silent reef
qs is the best charm in the game no contest
real
silent reef
why is sub 5 so fucking hard bro
meager crane
qs is the best charm in the game no contest
Agree
merry pagoda
And u couldnt think of anything but say the same sentence "skill issue" when som...
Your just calling a charm trash without giving any proper reason
sick pivot
qs is more dps
Strength is better for pure vessel for me
copper spruce
Both suck
sick pivot
While strength gives like 50% boost to dps qs gives 100%
Nope still 50%
meager crane
Your just calling a charm trash without giving any proper reason
I didnt call it trash
vivid creek
If str and shamans are S then QS is the only S+ charm
imo
foggy sable
Your just calling a charm trash without giving any proper reason
is this about sharp shadow
because sharp shadow is bad
sick pivot
If str and shamans are S then QS is the only S+ charm
imo
Wayward compass being the god tier
meager crane
Its mid cuz there are so much other charms u can use as an alternative
shrewd nymph
Wayward compass being the god tier
funnier the 5th time
sick pivot
funnier the 5th time
merry pagoda
qs is the best charm in the game no contest
I mean yeah it's pretty useful when fighting Bosses like radiance but for other bosses like Grimm three mantis lord you can't get a second hit without getting hit
foggy sable
you can get qs value on grimm
meager crane
And it does not even give good opportunities like qs and ss
vivid creek
Frimm
foggy sable
and sisters
sick pivot
Qslash is easy to get but i hate it idk
copper spruce
Is this what it feels like to be hit in the head
sick pivot
sick pivot
And i prefer steady body over sharp shadow tbh
Same
merry pagoda
because sharp shadow is bad
Skill issue
meager crane
I wish there was 12 notches
foggy sable
steady body is 4th best charm
sick pivot
I wish there was 12 notches
Same
meager crane
That would lowkey broke the game but idc
sick pivot
steady body is 4th best charm
Nah uh
foggy sable
Skill issue
I don't think so somehow
sick pivot
3rd
foggy sable
strength, quickslash, shaman are better
sick pivot
qs str shamans
Yk sometimes steady body helps alot in nail build
foggy sable
and debatably fury and flukes depending on user
sick pivot
and debatably fury and flukes depending on user
I hate flukes
I spam it 10 times on gruz mother and she just tanks it
foggy sable
Yk sometimes steady body helps alot in nail build
still doesn't beat out shaman
sick pivot
still doesn't beat out shaman
Shaman is good with d dive
sick pivot
So satisfying to watch all the hits land
meager crane
Bored from the best charms, tell me what do you think is the WORST charm in the game
shrewd nymph
Bored from the best charms, tell me what do you think is the WORST charm in the ...
toa
sick pivot
Bored from the best charms, tell me what do you think is the WORST charm in the ...
Let me cook
foggy sable
Bored from the best charms, tell me what do you think is the WORST charm in the ...
thorns of agony, then sharp shadow
vivid creek
Can grab shaman at the start of the game and it's crazy good the whole way through
sb only really shines in full nail builds with qs imo
But since the best endgame builds are the nail builds it automatically catapults sb to top tier
meager crane
I agree with that one
subtle hull
shroom spore is surely up there
copper spruce
@foggy sable i have indoctrinated lune
foggy sable
good
copper spruce
sick pivot
shroom spore is surely up there
It helps again lost kin so no
meager crane
shroom spore is surely up there
Its not that bad
sick pivot
Those annoying little orange bustards
shrewd nymph
What does that means
thorns of agony
subtle hull
It helps again lost kin so no
who in their right mind is using it over defenders crest
sick pivot
who in their right mind is using it over defenders crest
Sometimes they hit you even with that
silent reef
whats a good 112 time?
meager crane
I defeated lost kin wihout defenders crest
foggy sable
none of those are actively negative except thorns and sharp shadow
sick pivot
I defeated lost kin wihout defenders crest
Nail spam detected
foggy sable
jonis blessing and deep focus can also fit there
sick pivot
jonis blessing and deep focus can also fit there
Jonis blessing is so bad
meager crane
Nail spam detected
Wdym
sick pivot
I wouldn't equip it if it was 0 notches
foggy sable
there are charms which are worth less than nothing
silent reef
I defeated lost kin wihout defenders crest
easier than with
foggy sable
melody is not good but isn't actively negative
shrewd nymph
inhibiting charms are like toa, s shadow, glowing womb and sometimes the other summons, jonis, heavy blow and dcrest
or smt like that
vivid creek
jonis blessing and deep focus can also fit there
- glowing womb & hb
Imo
Waste soul instead of using spells, & push stuff farther away so it takes longer to kill
sick pivot
Almost forgot about heavy blow
sick pivot
I said wdym dont make a referance over it
"wyrm"
silent reef
Jonis blessing is so bad
yeah
meager crane
Almost forgot about heavy blow
Thats the worst charm i think
foggy sable
+ glowing womb & hb
Imo
Waste soul instead of using spells, & push stuff farthe...
hb being hiveblood?
silent reef
or it can be used in some niche cases
shrewd nymph
hb being hiveblood?
heavy blow
foggy sable
I see
sick pivot
foggy sable
heavy blow sucks
copper spruce
Hive blow
sick pivot
hb being hiveblood?
Nah ts carries in white place
vivid creek
Yeah
The stagger bonus from blow really blows
meager crane
Kingsoul is actually so bad ngl
silent reef
heavy blow
lowers stagger by 1 hit so yk it could be used
meager crane
5 notches is crazy
silent reef
Kingsoul is actually so bad ngl
it's not meant to be used
sick pivot
Kingsoul is actually so bad ngl
It's good in my eyes
shrewd nymph
lowers stagger by 1 hit so yk it could be used
cons are a little bit more notable
shrewd nymph
same way toa does damage, but not enough to makeup for the lost i frames
subtle hull
kingsoul is ass but ultimately inoffensive its little more than a narrative tool
silent reef
cons are a little bit more notable
Yeah but it does have a use
sick pivot
I mean you can beat the game using spells while having kingsoul equipped
foggy sable
hb in lost kin bullying
silent reef
same way toa does damage, but not enough to makeup for the lost i frames
which one is toa
shrewd nymph
which one is toa
thorns
silent reef
hb in lost kin bullying
can you not do the normal stun strat?
silent reef
ok well
foggy sable
can you not do the normal stun strat?
it is funnier with hb
silent reef
Ima practice some 112's
shrewd nymph
lowers stagger by 1 hit so yk it could be used
the extra distance makes combo staggers harder
which are like -3 hits usually
so
silent reef
I threw my sub 5 pace so hard man
copper spruce
So many subs
sick pivot
hb in lost kin bullying
Funny how you don't need to dodge lost kin attacks and just damage tank
copper spruce
Leave some for us
subtle hull
hitting a nail art with hb should throw bosses into walls
foggy sable
damage tank eww
copper spruce
silent reef
wait ima js do the dreamers in my steel soul so I can check %
sick pivot
damage tank eww
Tf you mean ew
silent reef
lock in
meager crane
Hot take: primal aspids are NOT that annoying, just get nailmasters bla bla and they are so easy to kill
foggy sable
Tf you mean ew
eww
copper spruce
Marmu
copper spruce
sick pivot
Ts ragebaiting
meager crane
There are a lot worse enemies than primal aspids
shrewd nymph
Ts ragebaiting
the way you speak has to be satire im fully convinced
foggy sable
damage tanking isn't fun
sick pivot
There are a lot worse enemies than primal aspids
The flying crystal mfs at crystal peak
subtle hull
lowkenuinely
meager crane
The flying crystal mfs at crystal peak
Yea i hate those
maiden echo
Hi
silent reef
ls go
maiden echo
silent reef
I remembered weaversong on the way to herra
maiden echo
I remembered weaversong on the way to herra
I got weaversong during my final charm run through for 100%
copper spruce
SoB is below mid
faint sorrel
what last 1 notch charm should i use for P5? i just beat sisters of battle
silent reef
I got weaversong during my final charm run through for 100%
there r 112%
copper spruce
Nmg
maiden echo
there r 112%
No way
vivid creek
Wonder where heavy blow would rank if it was a damage boost to narts tbh
like an str equivalent 1.5x
maiden echo
I did 100% before Silksong though for that achievement
subtle hull
what last 1 notch charm should i use for P5? i just beat sisters of battle
soul eater
silent reef
oops didnt read your name
maiden echo
I didn't do Grimm troupe or godmaster yet
silent reef
Im kinda in a rush cus I rlly dont want to lose sub 7 pace too
vivid creek
what last 1 notch charm should i use for P5? i just beat sisters of battle
nmg or grubsong if you don't use narts
faint sorrel
soul eater
soul eater is a 4 notch charm
shrewd nymph
what last 1 notch charm should i use for P5? i just beat sisters of battle
nmg or grubsong
or toa if ur cool
subtle hull
soul eater is a 4 notch charm
copper spruce
Hawk
silent reef
ooo stag nest
vivid creek
nmg or grubsong
or toa if ur cool
toa 🤢
faint sorrel
nailmasters glory?
silent reef
bruh there is no bench is stag nest
shrewd nymph
terra doesnt know the toa tech
faint sorrel
nmg or grubsong
or toa if ur cool
thorns of agony?
foggy sable
more people should run thorns imo
maiden echo
Also I gotta say, doing seer ascension before fighting radiance for the first time was an amazing experience cause by then I still only vaguely understood the lore and then she drops everything about the villain and I go snd I'm like "OH ITS HER THATS WHO THE MOTH TRIBE WAS TALKING ABOUT"
silent reef
pls dont throw this pace man
vivid creek
more people should run thorns imo
Why 
foggy sable
funny
silent reef
how much essence does w defender give
maiden echo
Radiance is such a cool antagonist
subtle hull
thorns of agony?
shrewd nymph
how much essence does w defender give
350
foggy sable
how much essence does w defender give
300
copper spruce
367
shrewd nymph
its kin that gives 450
foggy sable
they all give 300 except lost kin which is 400
faint sorrel
i'll go TOA untill the next bench
silent reef
HOW DO I DO TRAPPED BENCH SKIP
vivid creek
more damage = good
true
Dreamshield, glowing womb and sharp shadow must be s-tier
subtle hull
dreamshield kinda does have aura tho
silent reef
meh ima js bench
shrewd nymph
bingy will fix you
maybe bingy after r5
copper spruce
No
shrewd nymph
its either that or speedrunning or i dont play anymore hk
copper spruce
Bingy now
vivid creek
r5 to destroy mental health
bingy to recover it
shrewd nymph
you'd be lucky if i knew how to leave kings pass
silent reef
rate da build chat
foggy sable
get someone to do hand brain bingy with you so you can learn overworld
subtle hull
rate da build chat
vivid creek
rate da build chat
sharp shadow / 100
copper spruce
You can do it lune
shrewd nymph
get someone to do hand brain bingy with you so you can learn overworld
after true completion
copper spruce
zealous skiff
rate da build chat
hello lune
shrewd nymph
hello lune
LMAO
maiden echo
Brb train made it to my stop
Bro got the tram pass
silent reef
alr we got herrah chat
maiden echo
Herrah was my first dreamer surprisingly
vivid creek
after true completion
oh lune
I got a new pb today, made it to markoth no-hit, but then took 7 hits to him & zote 
vivid creek
Hitcount pb is still 5 tho
shrewd nymph
oh lune
I got a new pb today, made it to markoth no-hit, but then took 7 hits to...
oh shit ggs
you should learn the epic lune cool markoth strat
foggy sable
with a markoth distance you should almost be there right
shrewd nymph
not mine at all but who cares
solar rover
whoever said pv fight is a dance was right
vivid creek
with a markoth distance you should almost be there right
Not really tbh
I'm not nearly consistent enough
solar rover
he shifts his tempo some times
foggy sable
fair fair
desert glade
desert glade
LOL
desert glade
I beat him with a damage build
maiden echo
Ima quit out I cba
What are you even running
silent reef
I have 0 nail upgs
desert glade
I have 0 nail upgs
ARE WE DEADASS
solar rover
COLLLECTOR IS SO ANNOYIGN
he is easy kind of
solar rover
I have 0 nail upgs
what spells do you have?
silent reef
What are you even running
Im going for a sub 5 but Ive lost sub 5p ace so Im going ofr sub 7
silent reef
what spells do you have?
dedark shadesoul abbyss shreik
foggy sable
do you have a route?
maiden echo
Im going for a sub 5 but Ive lost sub 5p ace so Im going ofr sub 7
Are you just speedrunning
silent reef
going of memory
solar rover
then you can practically hitless him with 0 difficulty
silent reef
afterr this one ima run it
silent reef
then you can practically hitless him with 0 difficulty
bro the enemies take 4 hits
foggy sable
spell
maiden echo
Why are you talking in discord when you're speedrunning
solar rover
hmmm i have all upgrades so i cant do it that way
frigid topaz
guys isnt it crazy to think that hk only took 3 people and 40k $ to make ?
peak hound
solar rover
how many soul containers you have?
silent reef
ok collector done
silent reef
how many soul containers you have?
2
vivid creek
you should learn the epic lune cool markoth strat
What's epic lune cool markoth strat
silent reef
can get third once I clai mgrubs
foggy sable
What's epic lune cool markoth strat
getting hit
solar rover
2 full or 2 fragments?
spiral jungle
should i buy sk guys?
silent reef
yay
shrewd nymph
What's epic lune cool markoth strat
okay disclaimer, my markoth performance would make you cry
shrewd nymph
HOWEVER, i think it looks pretty cool
subtle hull
can u unequip all the other charms theyre holding back ur sharp shadow potential
silent reef
can u unequip all the other charms theyre holding back ur sharp shadow potential
I dont use it for dmg at all
vivid creek
getting hit
I'll have to try that out
Since I've never taken any damage at any point in hk before so I wouldn't know what it's like
silent reef
which do I buy
dense fjord
I DONT HAVE MAP 💀
This charm build..
silent reef
resting grounds
silent reef
This charm build..
optimal
foggy sable
I'll have to try that out
Since I've never taken any damage at any point in hk b...
oh good you should try it
mild sorrel
which do I buy
That one fucker in deepnest
shrewd nymph
What's epic lune cool markoth strat
mild sorrel
IM ONLY MISSING HIVE GRUBS
Remember the hive/waterways grub in between
Never forget that guy
vivid creek
okay disclaimer, my markoth performance would make you cry
It can't be that bad 
silent reef
wait you gotta have the map for the place to see I think
mild sorrel
wait you gotta have the map for the place to see I think
Just do it based on memory gg ez
vivid creek
https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/283680756159741953/1445314875097...
Oh..
silent reef
IM TOO POOR FOR ALL MAPS
mild sorrel
then I cant claim all 46 at once
It's gotta be that one bitch in crossroads
solar rover
you can just remember where the ones you dont have map for are
silent reef
2 bitches in crossraods
solar rover
this is your 3rd playthrouh right
vivid creek
its sick isnt it.. right right ?!
10/10 would fall again
foggy sable
its sick isnt it.. right right ?!
thinking about doing it in r5 makes me sick
but it does look amazing
shrewd nymph
im doing it for r5
shrewd nymph
no nkg pufferfish pogo though 🙁
mild sorrel
2 bitches in crossraods
holy shit why are they so off bro
vivid creek
Imagine that's your only hit of the whole run
silent reef
ok ima do colo 3
mild sorrel
I don't remember them being there
shrewd nymph
if its markoth i guarantee im taking another 10 hits
silent reef
one is elevator the other one is peak exit
mild sorrel
There's only like 5 grubs in crossroads and those CAN'T be them
foggy sable
Imagine that's your only hit of the whole run
imagine diving into the void in absrad as only hit
shrewd nymph
imagine diving into the void in absrad as only hit
hmmmmmmmmm
vivid creek
imagine diving into the void in absrad as only hit
It sounds like you've done this
silent reef
colo 3 build
mild sorrel
imagine diving into the void in absrad as only hit
Literally me
foggy sable
oops the r5 trauma is resurfacing
mild sorrel
colo 3 build
gamer
shrewd nymph
Imagine that's your only hit of the whole run
no but unironically, the dmg that gives me will save more runs than it'll lose
silent reef
wait let me get third pg
shrewd nymph
im really consistent at it and really inconsistent at the rest of markoth
so i need the gimmick
vivid creek
im really consistent at it and really inconsistent at the rest of markoth
Oh, fair
shrewd nymph
one day i'll learn markoth
vivid creek
I wanna be pinged if you get a 1-hit run with that being the only hit tho
shrewd nymph
LMAO sure
solar rover
LEMM YORUE SELLING
dont die in col 3
mild sorrel
Me omw to search for how to cheese absrad climb (you can't):
silent reef
oc c3 trust
deft apex
lemme guess i cant use fury of the fallen in a radiant fight cant i?
solar rover
i had the hardest time there
foggy sable
oh good news I have the r5 2x attempt lined up next time I play it
foggy sable
so that'll be fun
vivid creek
oh good news I have the r5 2x attempt lined up next time I play it
ooooo
gl
shrewd nymph
oh good news I have the r5 2x attempt lined up next time I play it
surely with a break inbetween isnt good ?
shrewd nymph
or is it better
foggy sable
I'm scared to try it though since I got hit to hornet 1 last time
shrewd nymph
lemme guess i cant use fury of the fallen in a radiant fight cant i?
you need mods yeah
silent reef
never could get it done before i got unbreakable strength and nmg
I got both
deft apex
shiii
shrewd nymph
I'm scared to try it though since I got hit to hornet 1 last time
in ab, do you do the hornet stunlock
silent reef
alr third ngrade
shrewd nymph
she always just gets shrieked into me
foggy sable
I know how to do the stunlock but the shriek is so sketchy
silent reef
I can get pure nail but i want to claim all grubs at once
vivid creek
left shriek for it?
shrewd nymph
oh shit maybe thats why im bad at it
i only found out about that very recently from grey
solar rover
3 pv kills yet will do more before p4
hoary forge
Y'all is there any way i can bring back a corrupted save file
mild sorrel
I can get pure nail but i want to claim all grubs at once
Ehh who needs pure nail anyway
shrewd nymph
Y'all is there any way i can bring back a corrupted save file
check the backups
solar rover
left shriek for it?
just tell where you dont have map of we can tell which grub is left
copper spruce
oh shit maybe thats why im bad at it
Skill issue
hoary forge
check the backups
Ok
solar rover
just tell where you dont have map of we can tell which grub is left
of course it will be unclear o/w you can just wiki
silent reef
heres da build
copper spruce
Ok
solar rover
lol
solar rover
atleast this part is easy sit on a chair and go hunt hoppers
vivid creek
ok well Ill js take a sub 10
112% run?
copper spruce
Dead char
solar rover
radiant pv time
and died
tell me how do i doge if he does his front slash right after he shoots tiny nails
silent reef
alr im at tamer
decent speed
ngl
ez
c3 done
now ima do hive
yay sharp shadow and sans r back
ok fuck these grubs bro
they r so annoying
waterworks one
solar rover
waterworks one
water works? you mean water ways right
gleaming mirage
can you get kingsoul without ever going into the abyss
silent reef
I forgor
foggy sable
can you get kingsoul without ever going into the abyss
no
you need shade cloak for TL
gleaming mirage
whats tl
oh right traitor lord
foggy sable
traitor lord
loud sonnet
Hi
loud sonnet
Is there anybody who played persona 5royal
solar rover
another is near ismas tear
silent reef
wait where th is it
solar rover
3 sorry
silent reef
talking abt the hive one
foggy sable
breakable floor on the way to kingdoms edge
solar rover
wait where th is it
one near the bench
silent reef
ok ima js finish hive now
light snow
finally defeated pure vessel for the first time in hall of gods gonna try doing it in p4 now
solar rover
ok ima js finish hive now
no more waterworks from water ways?
solar rover
i am no expert on speedruns but what route did you take?
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silent reef
I didnt use a rotue
woeful zephyr
mb guys
silent reef
that was the challenge
woeful zephyr
misstype
solar rover
I didnt use a rotue
i see but what i meant was what plan did you have or were you going place to place just finish it and next
yup
silent reef
I was making the route up
was on crazy pace the first hr
by crazy I mean sub 4
so not rlly
goign itno hive knight w 3 masks
gulp
solar rover
so not rlly
i say you should get dream catcher
dark tiger
solar rover
im defo save quitting that
did you die?
solar rover
oh
silent reef
to go to bench
solar rover
charms
solar rover
idk i am not good with spells
ancient ravine
peak fight
silent reef
ima js commit
ancient ravine
time for p4 (112%)
solar rover
peak fight
hey i am also at 111%
solar rover
<@766915812673585154> im back w 3 hp again 😭
lol
ancient ravine
hey i am also at 111%
what do u have left for 112
silent reef
ez
solar rover
if you want to make it easy just use fragile strenght and quick slash
silent reef
why was I even worreid abt hive
solar rover
what do u have left for 112
pv
solar rover
i am also practicing him
silent reef
who did u kill
hive knighjt I went in w 3 masks
ok that should be edge done
oops I quit out instead of gate
solar rover
beaten him 3 times but not consistent
ancient ravine
hive knighjt I went in w 3 masks
second try using dreamgate to get to him
solar rover
ok that should be edge done
you got both grubs?
silent reef
second try using dreamgate to get to him
what
ancient ravine
beaten him 3 times but not consistent
i beat pv many times but he leaves me with 1hp left but now at least 5masks
silent reef
time for compass