hk-discussion

[zealous skiff]

except when people do 😭

[foggy sable]

they've moved on mostly, now I have to make increasingly silly uses of the charm to argue with people about

[zealous skiff]

[real otter]

isnt any rad nearly impossible

[zealous skiff]

no

[real otter]

i meant 2.0

[zealous skiff]

idk how hard 2.0 is but also no

people have done radiant

[real otter]

oh shit theres 3.0 i think

[subtle glacier]

levi clears 3.0 before 2026

[real otter]

holy fuck what is this 😭

is 3.0 possible

without bug

[subtle glacier]

possible yeah

just hasn’t been done

but my goat will clutch it

[real otter]

you know what would be evil

[sick heath]

Yeah I did it yesterday day trust

[real otter]

any rad 4.0 all attacks break iframes and no bugs :D

[real otter]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-leonardo-dicaprio-leo-dicaprio-well-done-applause-gif-1867988353188143738

[hollow spear]

He meant that sht

[real otter]

huh

[subtle glacier]

there’s already a radiance that punishes you for ddarking

i wanna say it’s atomic radiance? idr

[real otter]

wait no any rad 3.0 itemless

i must watch someone do this

[hollow spear]

No cost too great he really meant it

[subtle glacier]

unfortunately normal true ending radiance isn’t possible itemless

[real otter]

alr ima do it

i’ll be the first

i haven’t even gotten to abs rad

but i’ll beat radiance itemless

[sick heath]

Shit I forgot to make Santa a stat sheet

[spiral vault]

All I want for Christmas is youuuu

[wary hound]

wats the difference between abs rad and normal rad i havent unlocked the radiance in the hall of gods

[twin raven]

BROTHER LEAVE

[spiral vault]

Absrad is stronger faster smarter

[wary hound]

oh ok

[shrewd nymph]

Faster, more hp, and final stage changes

[wary hound]

oh

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-jolly-christmas-pokemon-showdown-chiyu-gif-2854734974503305413

[wary hound]

well i did p1 finally cause the brother actually obliterated me everytime so now i gotta do 3

[shrewd nymph]

Ggs

[foggy sable]

and some of the attacks do more projectiles

[subtle glacier]

i’m itching to play hk

but idk what to do

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-12944899486400191725

[foggy sable]

many options of things to do in hk

most are bad

[subtle glacier]

[foggy sable]

hm I might play more bingy later

[lapis pecan]

(First time playing hollow knight in a LONG time)

Is it bad i first found crystal caverns after i already defeated a dreamer,?
I was trying to do the tunnel to the broken vessel for so long before i remembered “wait, isnt there like, a longer dash somewhere”

Also beat watcher knights on my third try :D

[worn hamlet]

it's a nonlinear game lol, there's literal speedrun categories built off of doing the game in the wrong order

there isn't a bad order

[subtle glacier]

how long from now is later
i don’t think we’re in similar time zones

[lapis pecan]

Nice, kinda funny lookin a the map with the ancient basin and city of tears but a gap in the top

[foggy sable]

probably in like 4-5 hours because I'm going out to do something soon

[subtle glacier]

oof

[worn hamlet]

lol true

[subtle glacier]

i will almost certainly be asleep

[foggy sable]

alternatively maybe tomorrow like 3 hours before now

[worn hamlet]

ngl idk why I came here only to sleep 2 seconds later

[subtle glacier]

that works really well for me but
don’t delay bingy

[worn hamlet]

but gn chat ttyl :D

[foggy sable]

both is an option

I just like playing hk but r5ab is the most miserable thing

[lapis pecan]

Ahh, i can rest easy now, back like 4 years ago when i first played the game i never managed to get past the watcher knights, and i left it until now. with my new skill from 100%ing silksong i beat it in 3 attempts

[subtle glacier]

you’ve played a hand/brain and a 3L yeah?

[foggy sable]

yess

[lapis pecan]

Gn :)

[subtle glacier]

did you prefer one over the other?

[foggy sable]

they were very different

I found 3l very hard because I don't know overworld very well and routing at the same time

but it was also fun

[subtle glacier]

yeah, 3L is very fun once you’re comfortable but before then it’s a lot at once

[foggy sable]

forgetting dive and having to take a detour to get it for the last item was unfortunate

[dense fjord]

If anyone thinks theyve beaten hollow knight in the “wrong” order, i should let them know that on my first playthrough i got monarch wings before fighting mantis lords

[subtle glacier]

after a little bit of experience you’ll know every dive goal on the board just by looking at it

[agile pewter]

nerd

[carmine lava]

i got dream nail before i went to greenpath

[subtle glacier]

is this a lantern angle or a vsblss angle

[carmine lava]

bruh

[dense fjord]

Intentionally right?

[carmine lava]

first playthrough

[vale condor]

🐑

[subtle glacier]

hithon

[dark tiger]

i played like an npc

[vale condor]

You measure how much you cry when looking at a goal, and if its too much then its a dive goal

[dark tiger]

crossroads > greenpath > fog canyon > queens station > fungal wastes > city > sanctum > waterways > basin > i forgot

[subtle glacier]

unless you REALLY cry in which case it’s a 50/50 between watch cloth die or godtuner

[hallow gyro]

what charms are recommended for nkg

[subtle glacier]

sham

[dim lance]

strength shaman twister

[zealous skiff]

bing

[hallow gyro]

i was close

but then i forgot he has a drill attack

[foggy sable]

goam and garpede journal entries...

biggest mistake

[rare aurora]

gmcb

[vale condor]

hi alp

[hallow gyro]

he is doable tho i have done it before

[subtle glacier]

goam garpede is silly but i like routing journal

[foggy sable]

I forgot it needed journal

and didn't know it needed dive

[vale condor]

Anyway
Gnython

[rare aurora]

gn!

[subtle glacier]

i think 2 grubs in hive and godtuner might be the worst dive goals? idk

[foggy sable]

colo 1 being a hard save since when

[subtle glacier]

only if you start it :D

you can rob lurker for her idol and warp just fine

[dark tiger]

say that again

[subtle glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/scroll-up-hate-discord-server-gif-25654733

[foggy sable]

anyway I can't wait to do it again and somehow make a worse route

[proud haven]

Hi super sigmas

[dark tiger]

say that again

[foggy sable]

although forgetting vs and getting stuck at greenpath baldur is pretty bad

[subtle glacier]

if there’s a pie chart of how difficult bingy is, it’s like 40% gameplay 40% routing and 20% managing to read the board somehow and like actually understand what the words mean

python not sleeping

[vale condor]

And 60% dealing with people telling you how you can make your life better and also breath more efficiently

[foggy sable]

does that 40% routing include seeing marmu on the board and having to route around doing it for the funny

[subtle glacier]

yes!

[hallow gyro]

i didn't get any chance to use shaman stone😔

[foggy sable]

good

[hallow gyro]

so i used mark of pride

[dark tiger]

Hell

[subtle glacier]

sometimes i’ll see dogshit goals that have a tiiiiny bit of synergy and i just HAVE to run it

[foggy sable]

all the grub goals surely

one day

[subtle glacier]

20 grubs is a goal :D

[foggy sable]

20 grubs and then 4 of the smaller grub goals, it has to happen

[subtle glacier]

holy

[foggy sable]

imagine

[twin oracle]

[twin oracle]

[subtle glacier]

this is the closest i’ve seen

20 grubs 15 grubs

yippee

[foggy sable]

did you see the one me and teppi did

with 20 grubs, grubsong and 2 other grub goals

and 1 other grub goal on a bad line so doesn't count

[proud haven]

Yay

[subtle glacier]

this one?

[foggy sable]

it was almost the perfect board

[subtle glacier]

holy

[foggy sable]

yes, left line is perfect almost

left column rather

[subtle glacier]

if only one of those was city grubs this would be r5 over r1

or peak grubs

i don’t wanna do grimmchild

[zealous skiff]

did someone say r5

[foggy sable]

bltr looks kinda nice instead of column 4

[foggy sable]

it gets me whenever I read the bingy server

[subtle glacier]

i definitely don’t like 500 essence

[foggy sable]

r5 will never not mean pantheon 5 radiant

[foggy sable]

yea but we killed gorb which is basically grub

[subtle glacier]

good call

[foggy sable]

if you think about it

[subtle glacier]

ok well i sleep now

hf bingy

[foggy sable]

gn

[prime oxide]

Omg it took me 6 hours but i did it

I am finally ready for pantheon 5

[minor galleon]

im still strugglin on winged nosk

[prime oxide]

It's just vengefly king with more attacks

[peak hound]

now do sly

[prime oxide]

NO

[minor galleon]

i made it past nosk with 2 masks left then got destroyed by sly

[rapid bridge]

hii

[rapid bridge]

winged nosk is easy as hell

[worthy peak]

The wing hitboxes do reach quite high though so that can reasonably throw people of

[rapid bridge]

just jump

[prime oxide]

It's hitboxes suck

[rapid bridge]

tip: hold jump to jump higher

[prime oxide]

Btw here is my boss tierlist

[rapid bridge]

nosk enjoyer finally

❤️

what are watchers doin in S

[peak hound]

the most random ahh list I have seen

[worthy peak]

Yes but you might want to pogo and not realise how high the wing hitboxes reacch so jump too low. This problem is dealt with by MoP . longnail as youll try pogoing from further away

It isn't hard once your used to it

[prime oxide]

Wrong list sorry

[worthy peak]

but it is something to get used to when fighting them for the first times

[shrewd nymph]

easier rad 😭

[rapid bridge]

?

[prime oxide]

This is the one i was suposed to send

[shrewd nymph]

meant to reply to him saying NO

[rapid bridge]

bro just changed one thing

[rapid bridge]

where even is nkg

[shrewd nymph]

S

[peak hound]

mine

[west geode]

You hate Gorb
Are you serious rn

[shrewd nymph]

base rad over absrad for both is interesting

[west geode]

Its not even that hard

[foggy sable]

all of your lists are too normal and boring

[rapid bridge]

can you even read?

[shrewd nymph]

have you ever made a tier list gery

[foggy sable]

yes

I have an outdated one I made like 5 months ago

[shrewd nymph]

base rad in S, absrad in A ?

[foggy sable]

I like markoth more now

[rapid bridge]

dude absrad is in S and base in A

[shrewd nymph]

bv oblobbles s is crazy work

[foggy sable]

I like the fight

[prime oxide]

They are fun ngl

[peak hound]

this tier list seems like something you made while being half sleep at 2 am

[foggy sable]

dash slash makes a fun phase 2 pattern

[prime oxide]

Funny dodge practice

[shrewd nymph]

im probably stupid

i always thought they were flipped

[rapid bridge]

circled absrad

[foggy sable]

I don't think this one was

[pseudo bridge]

After I got longnail the game seems way smoother to play

[pseudo bridge]

I think if i keep playin itll get better

[shrewd nymph]

rng jump and 1 attack sim

[rapid bridge]

how the fuck is markoth above galien

[foggy sable]

probably I'd but zote up now as well

[foggy sable]

because this is for ab

and galien enjoyes hugging the floor on ab

[west geode]

Base radiance aint hard, its just the runback is literaly having to fight another boss

[prime oxide]

I'll be honest i like thk more than pure vessel

[shrewd nymph]

gruz and vfk lowk underrated. at the very least better than hu

[west geode]

Which slows down your progress

[foggy sable]

they are at the start of p5

and therefore I hate them

[shrewd nymph]

vfk is all my p5 motivation

[rapid bridge]

at that point in the game you can beat thk in under a minite

[dense fjord]

Greyfire youre awesome and all but, please tell me this is a joke

[foggy sable]

after fighting vfk with ab for like the 100th time it is boring and slow

[foggy sable]

no

markoth would be maybe B now

[shrewd nymph]

then speed it up

the fight aint slow

[foggy sable]

depending on the mood

[rapid bridge]

i dont even have vfk on radiant cuz its annoying

[dense fjord]

Flukemarm above nkg and pv??

[shrewd nymph]

and gruz mother is fun if you nail turn the tantrum like attack

its super satisfying

[west geode]

Im not saying its hard, im saying its annoying and it distracts me from getting used to the radiance.
Well USED to, since i already beat her.

[delicate hemlock]

Oblobbles in S tier...

[foggy sable]

flukemarm has a pattern that I don't mind

I would rate it lower now though

[rapid bridge]

flukemarm is just a dps test

[dense fjord]

And nkg + pv are fun?😭😭

[foggy sable]

the list is closer to when I started doing ab more

[west geode]

I mean yeah kinda

[peak hound]

updated tier list

[foggy sable]

Nope

[foggy sable]

yes

[shrewd nymph]

nkg is eh when you play the game loads but pv hate is just greyfires existence

[delicate hemlock]

Why do mfs like GPZ so much he's just fucking boring

[dense fjord]

Ik, i worded it weirdly, i meant like yes they are fun

[foggy sable]

incorrect, PV dislike is my existence

[rapid bridge]

he's hella fun when you understand him

[dense fjord]

Ill make one too

[delicate hemlock]

I have a fully ordered one but it has Silksong bosses in it too

[shrewd nymph]

satisfying fight, good mechanical fight and its not the same set punish like nkg and whatnot are

but minions suck

[rapid bridge]

lords over sisters? or is this lost not ordered?

[rapid bridge]

then remove them

[foggy sable]

nkg is an interesting fight

[rapid bridge]

especially the sexy legs zotelimg

[peak hound]

i mean
the only thing sisters adds is a third phase
thats about it

[foggy sable]

especially ab or lower equipment

[shrewd nymph]

is it not quite literally the opposite

[west geode]

Traitor lord is a boss people hate for no reason
Its easy and pretty fun

[foggy sable]

oops I mean gpz

[shrewd nymph]

oh nvm sarcasm

oh

[foggy sable]

nkg is not interesting

[rapid bridge]

wouldnt call it a 3rd phase but it still is a more fun version of lords

[shrewd nymph]

i saw low equipment nkg and was like so confused

nkg low gear does nothing lol

[foggy sable]

If I were remaking this list I would put sisters much lower because of the teleport hits

[rapid bridge]

just longer fight

[shrewd nymph]

basically

[rapid bridge]

the what hits

[foggy sable]

I was thinking GPZ but said nkg

[shrewd nymph]

telefrag

[foggy sable]

they can just spawn on you

it can happen especially if you don't have the soul to DDark as an alternate way of avoiding a previous attack

[rapid bridge]

you can walk away?

[foggy sable]

no as in they can spawn directly on you

[rapid bridge]

sisters spellless is easy 😭

[foggy sable]

dealing instant damage

[rapid bridge]

stay on the ground

why are you on the top of the screen

[foggy sable]

I don't think you are understanding, a bad pattern can force you to the edge of the arena

particularly a throw attack followed by a bad pattern

Then a double sidespawn can spawn on you

[rapid bridge]

record me your problem cause i dont see it

[shrewd nymph]

spelless + hitless though

[worthy peak]

it even happens on mantis lords. though a pattern is a lot less likely to force you over to the edge then

[rapid bridge]

well i did radiant with only abyss shriek so it could be doable for me

[worthy peak]

I know ive been hit a couple of times just cause im dum

by teleport

[shrewd nymph]

yeah im not saying its impossible

[peak hound]

realistically, if its longer then you are more likely to mess up and die

[shrewd nymph]

but you cant do it forever consistently

even assuming you play perfect

[shrewd nymph]

hardly for nkg tbh

[rapid bridge]

if you are fairly consistent not rly

[runic basin]

me when another endurance boss in silksong:

[rapid bridge]

i lowkey hate endurance bosses

[pseudo mantle]

I have a funny hk headcanon based of a meme I saw

[rapid bridge]

tell us

[pseudo mantle]

This gets a bit wonky and English isn't my first language so sorry in advance

[rapid bridge]

isnt mine either

[full sinew]

RADIANT PURE VESSEL

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[pseudo mantle]

The 3 nail masters know Arabic and nickname each other w/Arabic nicknames,sheo's is "Asam" (in Arabic it's عصام) and whenever you fight Oro and Mateo in the pantheon they're yelling for sheo to come and help (this is based off how their yell sounds and I could send the meme to elaborate)

God I need new fingers

So what do y'all think?

https://youtube.com/shorts/gsyJxdSQYhM?si=saX_29l9FKB1kl9F
Here's the meme to elaborate, idk if I can send link

Turns out I can :D

[dense fjord]

My tier list

[runic basin]

this tierlist is lost approved

[foggy sable]

too normal

[dense fjord]

Which means my opinion is good

Awesome

[rapid bridge]

you forgot nosk

[dense fjord]

I didnt lmao

[runic basin]

no he didnt

[dense fjord]

YAY

[runic basin]

where is absrad tho?

[knotty knoll]

ts is so beautiful ❤️‍🩹

[rapid bridge]

oh nvm stupid mobile discord

[dense fjord]

Up

[severe breach]

What's this Tier list about?

[rapid bridge]

s

[foggy sable]

well I disagree but like

[runic basin]

oh didnt realize XD

[dense fjord]

My fav bosses to fight

[shrewd nymph]

mean

[dense fjord]

Lmao all good

[foggy sable]

true though

[dense fjord]

Tyank yiu twin

[runic basin]

imma make my own then lol

[dark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/my-manager-tweakin-my-manager-jolly-christmas-posting-christmasposting-christmas-meme-gif-3651785246779797242

[shrewd nymph]

agree and disagree

at that stage of hk it makes sense and thats why theyre so common

[foggy sable]

I'm gonna move uumuu to a tier

[shrewd nymph]

eek

[foggy sable]

just because it is the best sharp shadow boss

[shrewd nymph]

0 chance

[thick elk]

fellow sheo enjoyer

[dense fjord]

YES

[foggy sable]

100% chance

[dense fjord]

Hes so cool + fun + awesome + cool + fun

[foggy sable]

downdash sharp shadow to pop the jelly has to be the best thing

[severe breach]

Honestly agreed
It's a shame the Fight ends really quickly tho

[dense fjord]

Yeah i need to radiant him still lmao

[noble hornet]

Lowkey beat flutemarm or wtv now im really confused on what to do now

[dense fjord]

Hes in a yaoi relationship with the nailsmith too which is extra cool points

Imma do p5 soon

Mainly to unlock sob/wnosk/absrad

[severe breach]

Good luck

[shrewd nymph]

gl

[dense fjord]

REAL

[dense fjord]

Cuz im definitely not beating it without practice lmao

I might grab a snack first

And watch youtube

[shrewd nymph]

its doable id have faith

[noble hornet]

I’m lowkey gonna hop on

[zealous matrix]

Guys is it worth getting a 35.5 inch x 11.8 inch hk mouse pad for £10

[dense fjord]

Moistcritical my beloved

[zealous matrix]

Or $12

[dense fjord]

Tysm :D

[severe breach]

Y e s.
But jokes aside it's up to you really

[zealous matrix]

Ok

Im getting it along with a $8 / £7 mouse

Which looks kinda cool

This how it looks like

[runic basin]

im back, and i got this

dont mind some p5 bosses missing i havent fought them yet

oh yeah this one is very biased

[knotty knoll]

ts is so beautiful ❤️‍🩹

[dense fjord]

S tier is awesome, then It just completely falls apart from there

[runic basin]

agreed

[knotty knoll]

The.

[dense fjord]

Gpz in d, flukemarm above brooding mawlek and traitor lord?? Thk in b?? Crystal guardian in A???????????

[runic basin]

i despise traitor lord and mawlek

[atomic hill]

So I have a mod idea I’d like to pitch (hope this is the correct channel this time), in terms of the storyline/content

[runic basin]

and c guardian is very simple so its a fast fight therefore i like it

[dense fjord]

The correct channel would probably be #modding-discussion lmao but im sure youll be fine if u send it here

[atomic hill]

Modding discussion is dead as hell at this time of night

[foggy sable]

Oblobbles rated too low

[dense fjord]

Oh good point

Okay yap

[runic basin]

night? its noon out here

[dense fjord]

Then put zote in A while yiure at it

[noble hornet]

Flukemarm made me want to cry

[runic basin]

just zote? or gpz?

[atomic hill]

Right. Americacentrism. It’s 3 AM here

[shrewd nymph]

I'll never understand why bv and lost kin are often so high

[dense fjord]

Just zote, its a simple fight too, therefore fast, therefore you should love it, no?

[shrewd nymph]

Theres many places that arent america where its afternoon 😭

[foggy sable]

BV is so much fun

[runic basin]

nah, the path to do it is bad

[shrewd nymph]

Rng jump, and is there even a consistent way to dodge the headbang goo atk

[foggy sable]

Lost kin is too jumpy

[foggy sable]

There is

[shrewd nymph]

And they either dash or jump like its so basic

[foggy sable]

Which is why the fight is so fun

[dense fjord]

Its fun to smack them around and dodge the infection balls (like the ones he creates when he slams down and shakes his head), the infection balloons just get annoying in lost kin

[shrewd nymph]

In ab?

[foggy sable]

Yep

[shrewd nymph]

How

[foggy sable]

And nail only

[runic basin]

you have to: save him from vengfly, save him from deepnest after doing an arena with this stupid crawlers then you have to fight a trial. atp this is a full on questline

[shrewd nymph]

Because i remember teano doing it itemless ab and he just pogo'd and weaved

[foggy sable]

Just dodge the things and weave in nail hits

[dense fjord]

Okay gruz mother in A then

[shrewd nymph]

So theres no proper way its just dodge

[runic basin]

right i should bump gruz mother up

[agile pewter]

:|

[atomic hill]

So, my mod idea: An isolated RPG horror-inspired adventure taking place in the gap between Dream No More and Godseeker Mode, inspired by the cut abyss stuff that didn’t make it to the final game, where Ghost gets lost in the abyss after the ending and has to crawl their way out. With like quest lines and bosses

[foggy sable]

I can't explain from here because I'm going somewhere remind me later

I will then

[shrewd nymph]

Alr alr

[atomic hill]

(I know canon is a lil fuzzy on what ending is canon but I interpret both good ends as canon; Dream No More as canon and Godseeker as happening post canon)

[runic basin]

guys lost kin mostly jumps an inch off of the walls if he does a jump or he downslams in the same spot

[foggy sable]

Just know it is like 99% consistent

And once you know how you never get hit to it

Unless you greed damage

[runic basin]

how are yall struggling on the stagger spam boss?????????????????????

[dense fjord]

Btwbtw for enraged guardian you need to
Beat soul master/grind 1800 geo for lantern, make it up laser bug rooms, defeat crystal guardian, go to ancient basin, beat a whole other boss, get wings, then and only then can u fight enraged guardian

[atomic hill]

For the purposes of the mod the modded content would replace the canon map; I’d try to find a way to make it entirely separate via a main menu option so it doesn’t disrupt vanilla saves

[runic basin]

but its not like zote, you can forget about it then remember after getting wings it exists in the first place

and there is a reason to visit cpeaks twice

[foggy sable]

Hitless ab, not struggling per se

[dense fjord]

Theres a reason to visit the places where zote is trapped

[runic basin]

uhhh

[dense fjord]

You need to go through the vengefly king room to get to hornet

[shrewd nymph]

You can always make a boss harder / take longer, and thats an issue if not all attacks are consistent

[dense fjord]

Deepnest has herrah, nosk, galien

[runic basin]

for the deepnest one i had to return to the area just for him and nosk

[dense fjord]

And colo is a % and its fun

[runic basin]

because team cherry decided to put a wall between the player and him so you have to take a detour to "save" him

[runic basin]

there is my point im not going out of my way to save his ass

[dense fjord]

Breaking news: video game developer adds difficulty to their game

[runic basin]

not entirely

[wild sierra]

How many times have you done pop

[dense fjord]

Achievements?

[runic basin]

thats not difficulty thats me having to google it because i dont fucking know where the path is

[runic basin]

already done on a different save

[dense fjord]

Ykw i had to google it too

Im on your side now

[wild sierra]

^^^^

[dense fjord]

Only once

[wild sierra]

Do it again :)

[dense fjord]

Maybe :)

[runic basin]

im not saving him from vengfly king to get the other achievement and get an easier p3

[wild sierra]

I like pop

I think you should do it again

[civic arch]

how do i beat this gauntlet?

[ashen surge]

B-but boss

[dense fjord]

Okay gonna do p5

For the first time

[wild sierra]

Gl

[dense fjord]

Ill let yall know what boss i die to lmao

[shrewd nymph]

Or none

[runic basin]

the boss can go cry in a corner

[wild sierra]

Joe mama :)

[runic basin]

pogo them?

[peak hound]

sisters of battle

[dusk prawn]

no slowmode here but theres slowmode in sk discussion

channelism is real

[shrewd nymph]

Shock

[vale hamlet]

usually what works for me is run descending dark hit dash hit dash

[runic cypress]

Is this Hollow Knight: Pablo

[ashen surge]

Cuz hk better

[runic basin]

i have a question

[civic arch]

they used abyss shriek on me idk how to dodge that

[runic basin]

why is the hk soul meter actually a bottle but skong uses straight spools

[vale hamlet]

might as well accept your fate and die dude

[runic basin]

like, hk max soul is 99 but skong is 9 silk

[runic basin]

how do they have abyss shriek in the first place

[runic cypress]

Soul and silk are different substances

[civic arch]

idk 😨

im scared

[runic basin]

technically theyre the same resource

just that silk is from soul but my point is

why is max soul 99 and max silk 9?

[runic cypress]

Silk isn't from soul, silk is a different substance
We know this because the silk hornet uses specifically uses soul

[runic cypress]

Gameplay reasons

[runic basin]

:(

whatever my point is invalid have a good day

[runic cypress]

You too

[slow herald]

sly vs all of hallownest

i forgot he was an acutal boss

now thats a genuine question

[runic basin]

another question: WHEN DO I SQWEEZE IN HEALS AGAINST VEGETABLE FLY KING AND SOUL WARRIOR?????????

[shrewd nymph]

Just inbetween attacks

[runic basin]

D:

alr

[shrewd nymph]

Shade dash any soul warrior attack and heal if theres no minion in asc+

Vfk is easiest on a summon

[slow herald]

why do you need to heal?

[runic basin]

skill issue

[slow herald]

oh

[runic basin]

and previous boss kicked my ass typa situation

[mighty flicker]

Nuh uh

[dense fjord]

First p5 attempt so far I’ve beaten sheo

Lets see how far i can keep going

[shrewd nymph]

Tuff

[opal hearth]

just dont get hit

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[mighty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/meganight-gif-5579417557841055599

[dense fjord]

Lune is radiant watcher knights hard

Cuz i just radianted them in p5

[shrewd nymph]

theyre decently hard, definitely one of the harder ones

[gritty plover]

Do you fight the radiance first or 112 the game first

[shrewd nymph]

either, generally rad

[gritty plover]

I fought rad before massive moss charger

[dense fjord]

Anyway next boss

I think its sly

Could be wrong

Uumuu

[dense fjord]

I one cycled uumuu??

Am i secretly goated wtf😭

Or is p5 uumuu just weak

[knotty knoll]

uumuu is weak as shi

unless you use bindings or something

[shrewd nymph]

1 cycle isnt crazy but its good

iykwim

[knotty knoll]

i beat uuwuu in 0 cycles

im better

[dense fjord]

Really thought winged nosk would be harder than that

[knotty knoll]

i somehow died to him 😂 😂 😂 🤞 🤞 🤞

im better

[noble hornet]

Do I give all my geo to the pale king

[dense fjord]

Beat sly

[noble hornet]

I’m in ancient basin

[shrewd nymph]

up to you

at 3k it gives you smt

and wont accept more than 3k

[noble hornet]

Ain’t no way I’m getting 3k 😭😭😭

[shrewd nymph]

depends where you're at in the game but it becomes very very easy to get 3k

and relics are good if you have any of those

[noble hornet]

What does it give me?

[shrewd nymph]

vessel fragment

[noble hornet]

I’ll try and save up

[worthy peak]

It's the lowest value for money thing in the game to my memory

[shrewd nymph]

unbreakable greed

[worthy peak]

That provides significant value if you get it first for doing colosseum I think

[shrewd nymph]

doesnt affect colo

[worthy peak]

Oh then yeah greed sucks

[noble hornet]

I just unlocked the hidden station anyone know how far along I am in the game?

[worthy peak]

It's non-linear that's not enough information

[hollow spear]

Bro wasnt kidding when he said no cost too great

[dense fjord]

Okay

I lost p5 to gpz

Im not even remotely surprised tbh lmao

[sullen thicket]

I just did my first speedrun 2:45 is that good or bad?

[shrewd nymph]

<@&283547423706447872>

gatekeep please

[dense fjord]

Sisters of battle is very fun

[shrewd nymph]

Thats the hardest segment for sure

Thats really close, congrats

[dense fjord]

Tysm :D

Gonna try sob ascended and radiant

Then ill do gpz ascended

Then do more radhog stuff

[noble hornet]

I have gotten to where the crossroads are infected and i genuinely don’t know where to go from here

[shrewd nymph]

Yeah just practice who you take alot of dmg to

[sullen thicket]

Would you rather fight gpz or markoth

[dense fjord]

Gpz cuz hes fun

Beat sob on ascended

[rich lantern]

Gpz is the goat

[dense fjord]

I’ll probably leave radiant for a bit later tbh

[rich lantern]

ZoteBoat 2030

[sullen thicket]

I like the gpz boss fight alot

[dense fjord]

Gpz ascended time

[sullen thicket]

What is 53/63

[shrewd nymph]

Achievements

[dense fjord]

My achievements

[sullen thicket]

How do I check

[junior spindle]

listining to tmg theme on loop while playing block tales on roblox hits diffrent

[dense fjord]

Lune genuinely how do i dodge gpz’s attack where he falls from the ceiling

[zealous skiff]

ddark

[dense fjord]

Its so unpredictable where he drops

[dense fjord]

Oh good point

[shrewd nymph]

Double jump or ddark

Ddark is just better because more dmg and you can hit him 3+ times before he attacks so you dont even lose soul

Ddark as he is abt to enter the screen basicall

[foggy sable]

You can use cyclone if you dodge normally but DDark is vetter

[wary hound]

this game is fun when its fun

[shrewd nymph]

Some would say

[dense fjord]

Gpz beaten ascended

Ddark really helps yeah

[shrewd nymph]

Ggs

[dense fjord]

Okay i have the sudden urge to do watchers radiant

[shrewd nymph]

Ddark on explosion zotes is arguably more important if you arent doing that btw

[junior spindle]

tmg's theme is fire

[wary hound]

|| gpz||?

[dense fjord]

Grey prince zote

[wary hound]

ohhh

[dense fjord]

Oh true ill do that too

[zealous skiff]

shade soul also works

[shrewd nymph]

Tis true

I do think ddark is alot better though

[shrewd nymph]

Do it as they explode to iframe them and any overlapping attack he does

[zealous skiff]

yesh you dont have to worry about shade souling a zote balloon thats close enough to hit you

[sullen thicket]

Oh I'm missing 5 achievements

[shrewd nymph]

For me its actually getting far away from gpz or to the edge

But yeah fs

[dense fjord]

Btw what makes watchers so hard to radiant? It feels easy

[shrewd nymph]

People struggle with multiple enemies at once

[dense fjord]

Fair

[fresh isle]

they get a disproportionate amount of extra hp on radiant

[shrewd nymph]

Sly phase 2 parallel

[sullen thicket]

Isn't radiant hp same as ascended

[shrewd nymph]

Yes

[fresh isle]

yea

[shrewd nymph]

But people also find ascended hard, its just 5 hits + healing vs no hits or healing yk

[sullen thicket]

Gpz?

[shrewd nymph]

Grey prince zote

[fresh isle]

combined they have like way more hp than absrad

[sullen thicket]

I use upspell when he's staggered

[dense fjord]

Sometimes i impress myself

Other times i

Idek

Too much hollow knight, my brain isnt working

Okay imma take a break

[opal hearth]

once i played lies of p for so long i tried punching a metal gate open irl

and broke my knuckle

[dense fjord]

LMAO

Ow😭

[sullen thicket]

I wish there was a mod that put you in pantheon 5 at the end of pop

[gloomy bough]

If u beat the hollow knight and get the first ending can you get the radiance after?

[sullen thicket]

Yes

[lone loom]

anyone here?

i had a german exam and i got 40/40 without studying ☠️

[gloomy bough]

How hard is pop 1-10

[lone loom]

i was doing pop for the 18th time

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-gif-27188158

[sullen thicket]

Depends on how good you are but like 8-9/10 for the first time

[lone loom]

yes

[gloomy bough]

Damn

[lone loom]

agreed

its a 2/10 for me now

[foggy sable]

As a platformer nothing in hk is hard but HK is jank

[stray furnace]

NOO i,m so bad at hollow knight

i,ve only beaten absolute radience 4 times

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[dense fjord]

This is why i love the hallownest but kaizo mod

[foggy sable]

Doesn't fix HK bring jank

[dense fjord]

True

[hollow spear]

It's time

[shrewd nymph]

gl gl

[opal hearth]

all that time and you didnt move cdash or dash near the jump button

[dark tiger]

bad luck

[opal hearth]

we srs rn?

[dark tiger]

watch ts 😂 😂 😂

[hollow spear]

I like it there

[opal hearth]

is that

lost kin

[dark tiger]

Yeah

[opal hearth]

pluh

soul tyrant>

[dark tiger]

????

No

soul tyrant is ass

[shrewd nymph]

nmg carry

[dark tiger]

tuff

[frozen hull]

Nailmaster's Glory. 💙

[knotty knoll]

nmg is the worst charm oat

[frozen hull]

Thorns:

G Womb:

[opal hearth]

tfym

[foggy sable]

nmg lets go

[dreamy girder]

at least type differently

[shrewd nymph]

[knotty knoll]

❌ ❌ ❌

[frozen hull]

My Spotify Playlist is cooked.

[dark tiger]

like its genuinely ass

[dreamy girder]

ill tell everyone if u keep acting up. not that anyone would care

[opal hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[foggy sable]

nmg is great

[knotty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/baldi's-basics-shirtless-guy-funny-dumb-maths-black-guy-playing-abldis-basics-gif-11807624932826611138

[opal hearth]

lowk lost kin was just spamming nail

[dark tiger]

okay but did you beat lost kin ab

[opal hearth]

yes

[lapis pecan]

Man i just watched a panthon 5 tas and like omg i thought i was progressing decently, how are there so many more bosses than i thought.
Very good game :)

also imma bit lost, i beat broken vessel last, now what?

[opal hearth]

i beat all dream bosses

[dark tiger]

all bindings

[opal hearth]

🥀

pantheon bindings?

[foggy sable]

pantheon bindings are great

[shrewd nymph]

I like the difficulty charm binding brings to r5

[dark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/gdfactoryclips-nba-meme-nba-shocked-gdfactoryclips-skull-nba-skull-gif-15925592593301876278

[foggy sable]

No you don't

Charm binding r5 sucks

[shrewd nymph]

Normal r5 is too boring

Its good to add some spice

[opal hearth]

my only radiant boss is false knight

[shrewd nymph]

Wait

Charm

Fuck

I meant mask bad joke joke ruined eek

[foggy sable]

Oops

[dreamy girder]

how

how ud do it

[opal hearth]

dont get hit

also used sharp shadow do it in in 20< seconds

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[opal hearth]

sharp shadow lowk useful for failed champion too

[dreamy girder]

the less you speak the better

[alpine ibex]

Finally P2AB

[dreamy girder]

cool

[opal hearth]

i also used sharp shadow for flukemarm when i did it with defenders crest only

[short raven]

Holy cutscene
Where do I go now

[dreamy girder]

#hk-help

[alpine ibex]

You literally can do it R04 without much trouble, dont even need any charms

[dreamy girder]

actually r04 flukemarm isnt easy at all lmao

[opal hearth]

i have this glitch called a "skill issue"

[shrewd nymph]

Huh?????

[alpine ibex]

wait

i forgot the part about where nail damage is reduced

[shrewd nymph]

Lol

[alpine ibex]

yeah, thats hard

[dreamy girder]

my god bruh

[shrewd nymph]

First 3 waves are hard

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[alpine ibex]

Oblobbles were rightful bastards, and sheo kept knocking me out

[shrewd nymph]

Oblobbles and marmu are generally the hardest

[alpine ibex]

marmu is easy thanks to lifeblood

[worthy peak]

Marmu is evil

[foggy sable]

Sunny have you seen sharp shadow uumuu strats?

[worthy peak]

Please don't tell me those actually exist

[foggy sable]

10/10 very good way to fight

[foggy sable]

They do, I made them

[worthy peak]

Why?

[foggy sable]

For fun

[worthy peak]

And are they any good actually

[shrewd nymph]

Million dollar question

[foggy sable]

They are

https://youtu.be/oqSS55lfFfI?si=uGTCvfPy9_6b3IzJ

Behold

You should use them

[worthy peak]

I mean you have to align just right and you only get an extra 21 damage and then had trouble reaching uumuu to hit them again

[foggy sable]

Actually sharp shadow hits twice

And dashmaster

So 3x nail damage really

[worthy peak]

Ok I missed that

Which does improve it quite a bit I admit

[foggy sable]

And downdash sharp shadow is funny

[vestal sapphire]

steady body prevents knock back on attacking therefore it should stop the knight from moving up when pogoing

[worthy peak]

But like you could have just made them vulnerable earlier and hit with nail a few times

Then you can equip strength

[foggy sable]

Look, sharp shadow sucks

[worthy peak]

Which would equal the damage

[worthy peak]

Ok ok I get it was the best strategy and it could actually be better than nail with good rng for it and well execution

But criticism leads to improvement

[opal mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smile-happy-happy-cat-smile-cat-gif-18259408098481512759

hi

[worthy peak]

Hi

[blissful thistle]

lets go speed completion complete

[foggy sable]

It is worse than standard nail and spell anyway

But it was funny to record

[frozen hull]

Stop looking at me with them big 'ol eyes.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-big-eyes-big-ol-eyes-staring-stop-staring-gif-20959711

[alpine ibex]

okay, P3AB collector is gonna be something lol

[foggy sable]

And downdash sharp shadow is so fun

[frozen hull]

I was close.

[foggy sable]

Cyclone just counters

[south compass]

why does sharp shadow suck

i dont get i

[frozen hull]

It doesn't suck.

[south compass]

exactly

[frozen hull]

Thorns of Agony, now that sucks.

[worthy peak]

Cause it's not good and can mess you up

[foggy sable]

It is worse than just using normal strats

[frozen hull]

B-B-But...

I have nothing.

[alpine ibex]

its range can mess you up

[foggy sable]

I'm just finding ridiculously bad ways to use it to annoy lune

[frozen hull]

I don't use S Shadow.

[frozen hull]

P3 with only S Shadow is what I've been trying to do.

[foggy sable]

Uumuu is bad for it

[frozen hull]

Precisely.

[shrewd nymph]

Its working.

[frozen hull]

Hellune.

[foggy sable]

Wait til I get to nkg

[worthy peak]

Angry muttering

[shrewd nymph]

I think id rather watch alps nkg cdash only than nkg with any sharp shadow usage

[foggy sable]

You haven't seen my genius yet

[shrewd nymph]

If you find a genuinely optimal way to fight him with s shadow im gonna cry

Because afaik, uppercut, diag dash and pillars are worse

[foggy sable]

Just wait

[shrewd nymph]

Maybe not pillars idk

[foggy sable]

I have a plan

[shrewd nymph]

Uh oh

[foggy sable]

When I get home I will record

[shrewd nymph]

You gotta show me the bv thing too

[foggy sable]

True

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[thorn ruin]

do attuned now

[shrewd nymph]

Rad easy compared to attuned

[static charm]

𓆑𓅱𓂋 𓅂𓈖𓎼𓃭𓇋𓋴𓉔 𓃀𓄿𓂧 𓋴𓅱𓂋𓂋𓇌

[thorn ruin]

what the heirogliohics

[rain gulch]

Guys i need help with smth

Im at 107%

But idk whats left

Except pantheons

What do I need to do dor extra %

[shrewd nymph]

Colo 3, nkg/banish

Ascend seer

Probably one of those 3

[rain gulch]

I have it maxed

[rain gulch]

I killed nkg

So ig colo 3

But it doesnt give a whole 5%

[shrewd nymph]

Colo 3 p1-4 heah

Oh i thought you said you hadnt done pantheons

[rain gulch]

Yeah and pantheons

[rain gulch]

I didnt

I said except them

[quick cave]

Should i radiant nightmare king grimm (cant beat base grimm)

[rain gulch]

Cuz ik i have to

[shrewd nymph]

So 4% from pantheons and 1% from colo 3

[rain gulch]

Wait path of pain gives 1% ?

[shrewd nymph]

How are you gonna fight him then

[shrewd nymph]

No?

[quick cave]

Base nkg

[shrewd nymph]

Pantheons are 4% (1% for each 1-4) and 1% from colo 3

[shrewd nymph]

Uh yeah you got it trust

[rain gulch]

Okayy

[shrewd nymph]

Goodluck man

[quick cave]

KILL YOUR LIGHT

[rain gulch]

So the hunter mark path of pain are optional

Okayy

Yeah

[shrewd nymph]

Im so confused

[rain gulch]

Full

[shrewd nymph]

Is it not just p1-4 and colo 3

[rain gulch]

Im at 107%

[shrewd nymph]

Thats 5%

You're missing 5%

[rain gulch]

Yeah

Still not

[potent gull]

could we all make a contrast sign up to delete markoth from the game

[rain gulch]

I tried the first one once imma do it once im back home

[shrewd nymph]

Add sharp shadow and i'll sign it

[young canopy]

Yeah it is

[potent gull]

woahh sharp shadow hate will NOT be tolerated

[rain gulch]

Do I need to do that finish the game in 5 hours and complete the game in steal mode

[shrewd nymph]

Sharp shadow is ass besides like 4 bosses where it might help people new to the game

I will die on this hill

[rain gulch]

or is it for all successes

Yeah

But like i only have 1 world

Sp i explored

[young canopy]

That's an achievement, two achievements

[rain gulch]

So getting all the achievments isnt included in the 112%

[young canopy]

Yep

[rain gulch]

Alright good

Ill try

I feel like im pretty good at the game

Only have 60 hours tho

Yeah ill do it too tbh

But like most of it was exploration as i didnt know anything about hollow knight

My around 40 hours

Nice

[thorn ruin]

no

[rain gulch]

There are a few things im proud of

[shrewd nymph]

maybe

[rain gulch]

I killed nkg in 19 tries

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[rain gulch]

And radiance 25

But he only hit me once

So im close to no hit

[shrewd nymph]

Radiance in black egg temple?

[rain gulch]

Yeah

[shrewd nymph]

Oh sick gj

[rain gulch]

Thanks

[thorn ruin]

#modding-discussion

[rain gulch]

Got the clip

Which is even better

[shrewd nymph]

Hell yeah

[rain gulch]

But ig it was easy

When u get the hang of it

Just abyss shriek spam

[shrewd nymph]

Eh every boss basically is like that

[quick cave]

Hey i need some help i threw ny child into the abyss what do i do

[rain gulch]

Yeah

[rain gulch]

U make another one

[shrewd nymph]

Make a big palace full of saws

[rain gulch]

OHHH

[quick cave]

Ima give it lifeblood

[rain gulch]

I DIDNT UNDERSTAND

[quick cave]

OH NO

[young canopy]

Good idea ngl

[opal hearth]

you have to get another apk and start from the beginning

or edit your save

neither of which are worth it

but i would prefer the latter

[rain gulch]

Guys

Does this mean

Like finish the game 100%

[sick heath]

Get 100% on steel soul

[rain gulch]

And then finish the game in steal soul mode

Or

Oh

[young canopy]

Yeah

[rain gulch]

Bruhhhg

[dusty mountain]

just play it safe

[rain gulch]

This probably the hardest challenge

[tawdry magnet]

get 100% on steel soul and beat the game on the same save

[empty gulch]

Oh heck naw

[dusty mountain]

naw and heck in 2025 brochacho

[tawdry magnet]

yeah its the rarest achievement

[rain gulch]

Ts is impossible

[sick heath]

Eh its not that bad

[rain gulch]

._.

[dusty mountain]

"Ts"

[wintry iris]

Charm tierlist incoming

[tawdry magnet]

just play it safe and you can also quit out and rejoin if youre low on health

[rain gulch]

What kind of skill do u have to say that

[rain gulch]

Yeah ?

[empty gulch]

[sick heath]

But that boring

[dusty mountain]

this shit

[rain gulch]

I know

[sick heath]

mediocre skill

[rain gulch]

Bro how

Whatever ig 😭

[dusty mountain]

Uppercase in 2025

Kepping you big as hell

[tawdry magnet]

some people have done R5AB which is ridiculous skill

[dusty mountain]

i love sotting eith squirrel

[dusty mountain]

what the fuck is that

[rain gulch]

Wth is this

[shrewd nymph]

Pantheon 5 all bindings hitless

[tawdry magnet]

radiant pantheon 5 all bindings

or hitless more accurately yeah

[rain gulch]

Hit..

Hitles...

HITLESS ???

HOW

[sick heath]

By not getting hit

[foggy sable]

Suffering usually

[shrewd nymph]

Practise

And lots of it

[rain gulch]

EXACTLY

Broo this game is killing the players 😭

From the inside

[shrewd nymph]

And then someone did pantheon 5 old nail white spells all bindings hitless

So who even knows anymore

[rain gulch]

Bro what

Nah

I give up

[tawdry magnet]

when are we getting R5 with only defenders crest dmg

[shrewd nymph]

And someone did p5ab itemless (except absrad wings ofc)

[rain gulch]

Yeah bye

[dusty mountain]

whats is that

what the fuck

[tawdry magnet]

no dash, no wallclimb, nothing but what you have at the start of the game

[wintry iris]

Pantheons fuck me up dude i wanna keep zote alive for the funny but then i dont wanna deal with ultra mega master baiter grey prince zote

[shrewd nymph]

Imagine you make a new save

Thats what you get

[rain gulch]

That guy was playing hollow knight in his mother's stomach

[old crater]

Why does deepnest creep me out so hard

[shrewd nymph]

He has been playing for a long time but hes also just very skilled

[dusty mountain]

how can you even finish the game like that..

[rain gulch]

And i was happy to beat nkg in 19 tries 😭

How ignorant am i

[tawdry magnet]

you cant but apparently P5AB is possible that way

[rain gulch]

Bruh

[dusty mountain]

guys i dont know why you all get scared in deepnest its a game

like dude its not even that scary

[old crater]

Its creepy like hell

[opal hearth]

ngl deepnest isnt even slightly scary

jus annoying

[rain gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[dusty mountain]

sure bud 💔

[dusty mountain]

yeah

[shrewd nymph]

Well its not because absrad

But excluding her it is

[thick elk]

GUYS

[tawdry magnet]

does that allow them to use wings in every fight or did they just use it on abs rad

[thick elk]

i finally beat p3ab

[rain gulch]

Ggs

[shrewd nymph]

Just absrad from plats onward

[opal hearth]

tbh i feel like it wouldn't be THAT bad if they just added 2 benches between the hotspring and distant village

[shrewd nymph]

He did use it in the actual fight

Not just for entry plats and climb

[opal hearth]

the place dosen't have a required boss to get to herrah so it just makes up for it

[shrewd nymph]

Wow ggs