hk-discussion

[keen thorn]

But true deep focus is bad

[fallow grotto]

shit!

they look the same

and i never use them 🤔

[pine relic]

Its really good

[fallow grotto]

no?

quick focus is still bad.

any health related charm is lwky useless

[pine relic]

It’s a life changer for radiance

[earnest widget]

they're inverted

[keen thorn]

Quick focus is the exception

[pine relic]

You barley get any chances

[keen thorn]

All other survival charms are rather weak

Qf is genuinely amazing

[pine relic]

Ikr

[fallow grotto]

🤔

[earnest widget]

quick focus is mostly metal and small gem, deep focus is mostly gem and bits of metal

[keen thorn]

And surprisingly, stalwart makes an amazing combo with qf

[fallow grotto]

ig I just never used it

[keen thorn]

It may be actually worth to use for 5 notches

[keen thorn]

Yeah it's not that huge or important

[fallow grotto]

yeah but at the end of the of the day is it really better

[keen thorn]

You can run like, MoP or Shaman for a similar if not better result

[pine relic]

It’s a really good combo

[fallow grotto]

no

[earnest widget]

i think the only issue with quick focus is its notch cost

[keen thorn]

But qf makes a decently good choice if you're struggling with healing

[pine relic]

Which I do

[keen thorn]

Most of the time I wouldn't suggest it, qf is already more than good enough alone

[pine relic]

That’s why I always use it

[earnest widget]

but if you're fighting a boss you're not used to, it really helps find openings to heal

[keen thorn]

You'd probably benefit more with Longnail, twister/catcher or steady body

But specifically for Galien it may be actually good lol

[fallow grotto]

not good for ummuu though

[keen thorn]

The strength of qf+stalwart is the fact you can immediately heal any hit and have time to fodge

[fallow grotto]

mop probably would be better for him ngl

[keen thorn]

Yeah Uumuu doesn't need stalwart

[austere scarab]

Dream warriors give basically no healing time

[keen thorn]

Qf is fine ish enough for uumuu

[keen thorn]

Xero and Markoth are quite easy with some understanding

No eyes attuned is free

Ascended it's tricky but not too bad

Gorb and elder hu are free also

[runic shuttle]

say what

what is htis

[earnest widget]

and elder hu when it does that dumb attack

[runic shuttle]

this is nt right

[keen thorn]

Marmu and Galien are pretty insane

[wide coral]

what about radiant

[opaque canopy]

randomizer mod

[fallow grotto]

we’re talking about healing…

[runic shuttle]

oh

[fallow grotto]

😔

[keen thorn]

I'm talking about healing...

[fallow grotto]

that would make the healing irrelevant

[wide coral]

i saw charm cobminations

[austere scarab]

Unless you are using spore cloud in radiant for some reason

[wide coral]

and then something about attuned and ascended

[fallow grotto]

would u really use qf in radiant

[wide coral]

nah

why heal

you dont need healing

[keen thorn]

Qf df sporeshroom and crest

[austere scarab]

Crest?

[wide coral]

mop strenght and shaman

[austere scarab]

Oh, defenders

[wide coral]

if u need to heal its a skill issue

just dont get hit

[harsh loom]

that's kinda cool but not impressing tho

[keen thorn]

The one actual use

[harsh loom]

Would challenge you to beat radiance in radiant lets go live

[keen thorn]

Buffing sporeshroom

[misty umbra]

You dont need a nail when you can just kill yout enemy with your mind

[austere scarab]

How much does it even buff it by?

[keen thorn]

After the fact that crest nerfs flukenest and womb (somehow) I'm surprised it doesn't nerf sporeshroom as well

[harsh loom]

have anyone beaten Any radiance 3.0? sounds like a myth on meth

[wide coral]

im doing all other bosses

before rad

and the hard part is gone

[austere scarab]

It needs womb?

Wow

[subtle hull]

surely not without TAS

[fallow grotto]

sporeshroom in radiant though 🤔

[fallow grotto]

yes

[keen thorn]

53%

[fallow grotto]

without tas

[subtle hull]

i dont even understand how people did 2.0 1.0 had me at my limit

[fallow grotto]

i think

[keen thorn]

A nice buff

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[austere scarab]

Way to make glowing womb even less of a choice, it's one charm combo nerfs it

[keen thorn]

It decreases damage from 9 to 4, and the 5 lost becomes a cloud that lasts a bit

But basically

[harsh loom]

i kinda did the 2.0 but then i got too excited, hoped in 3.0 and i got absoluetly humiliated

[keen thorn]

The boss can just... Move out of the way

[harsh loom]

However i did kinda manage to get a little close to finish the first part of the fight

[fallow grotto]

is sporeshroom even.

like

🤔

[austere scarab]

I think it's alright

[keen thorn]

No it's bad

But something is something

[austere scarab]

1 charm slot for some passive damage after healing

[subtle hull]

stopping the anyrad grind felt like that scene in God of War where the chains float off his arms

[quartz cave]

@keen thorn

[keen thorn]

@quartz cave

[quartz cave]

hi. ....

[keen thorn]

Hi you're not new here

[quartz cave]

hru

[keen thorn]

I'm good

About to go out to eat with my family!

[quartz cave]

can i join

[heavy barn]

hi old here

[keen thorn]

Sure, if you come all the way here

[quartz cave]

hi

[quartz cave]

omw

[knotty ravine]

I’m cold here

[heavy barn]

i'm bold here

[steel umbra]

I FINALLY BEAT IT

[subtle glacier]

bingy

[civic cliff]

does someone have a save file with all dreamers killed and voidheart charm obtained but the black egg temple has not been entered yet?

[wide coral]

ill try it in my next TE speedrun

[dry hamlet]

I hate how voidheart is a literal downgrade to king soul……

[wide coral]

is it a diffrent animation?

[thick elk]

Bunger

[misty umbra]

Who the hell uses kingsoul

[wide coral]

kingsoul is trah

[dry hamlet]

Like “oh wow it makes the enemies in this area you’ll visit like twice and never again”

[wide coral]

trash

[civic cliff]

people trying to complete path of pain

[austere scarab]

5 slots for a charm that slowly refills your soul

[civic cliff]

but yeah its not worht 5 notches

[thick elk]

I saw someone saying to use kingsoul for Colo 3 lol

[dry hamlet]

Passive soul regeneration is trash? The charm notch bit yeah is trash

[wide coral]

just use hiveblood

[austere scarab]

Hiveblood

[civic cliff]

i dont actually use hiveblood

[misty umbra]

Everywhere is filled with statues that give infinite soul

[wide coral]

for 5 charm nothes is trash

if it was 3

[civic cliff]

i use grubsong and deep focus

[wide coral]

it would have been viable

[dry hamlet]

But void heart is a literal downgrade

it does Literally nothing of value beyond unlock endings and a pantheon.

[wide coral]

ur shade is now one shot and its free

[glacial obsidian]

wish me luck bys

[wide coral]

by free i mean no notches

[wide coral]

gl

[heavy barn]

it literally takes 16-18 seconds to general a heal

for 5 notches

[dry hamlet]

That seems still

Very useless?

For how late in the game your going to be by the point you get that

[wide coral]

more useless that passive regen that takes more than

how was that charm named

the honey charm

[heavy barn]

hiveblood

[blazing glen]

GUYS I FIGURED OUT WHO MACE BUG IS

[wide coral]

ty

[dry hamlet]

Hiveblood also isn’t that good?

It heals your last damaged mask in 10 seconds

[blazing glen]

THE MACE BUG IS AN UNDERWORKER BUG

[wide coral]

hiveblood is litteraly better than kingsoul

[dry hamlet]

I would consider it more useless

[wide coral]

and kingsoul does that in 17

[dry hamlet]

Considering take any damage

And congrats that mask that was healing is rendered moot

Which for PoP or white palace it’s useful yeah

[wide coral]

its better for pop

[dry hamlet]

But in general useless

[wide coral]

so is kingsoul

5 notches gone

for minimal passive regen

[misty umbra]

The passive regen isnt that much anyway

[wide coral]

i would rather have sharp shadow and mop

[dry hamlet]

Sharp shadow is garbage

Beyond a few boss battles

[wide coral]

i like the long dash

[dry hamlet]

It is completely garbage

[wide coral]

i got used to the long dash and now i cant take it off

[austere scarab]

I will back duck on sharp shadow

[wide coral]

thank you

[dry hamlet]

I feel like a longer dash

Is both a help and a hinderance

[ebon robin]

Sharp shadow is good it gives you more I frames and a longer reach to get to safety

[austere scarab]

I like sharp shadow

[misty umbra]

Sharp shadow us ok for me

Not too great but not too bad

[dull radish]

"what am i gonna fight the sun"

[keen thorn]

It doesn't actually give more iframes

The duration of the dash is unchanged

[wide coral]

for 2 notches its complete;y balanced

[glacial obsidian]

YES UR COOKED

[keen thorn]

What changes is speed

[austere scarab]

But you can't claim that kingsoul is better than sharp shadow

[keen thorn]

And thus lenght

[ebon robin]

Ah I see

[glacial obsidian]

No im cooked

[wide coral]

yeah right

[keen thorn]

Kingsoul and Hiveblood are garbage

[dry hamlet]

I used sharp shadow it is completely shit in my own opinion

[keen thorn]

Legit unusable aside of white palace

[wide coral]

bro even gathering swarm is better that kingsoul

as a charm

[austere scarab]

Kingsoul exists to become void heart

Hiveblood exists for white palace

[keen thorn]

Sharp shadow does some things nicely, but it's usually overrated as it feels better than it actually is

[dry hamlet]

I can think of like 2 bosses where it’s useful

[dry hamlet]

Void heart seems also pretty garbage

[keen thorn]

It's also overhated because some people think it does nothing

[dry hamlet]

Because “oh wow it makes your shade 1 hit that’s so useful when you’ve probably already finished 90% of the game!”

[keen thorn]

Sharp shadow helps on agressive positioning if you can abuse the extra length.
It is NOT a damage charm

[austere scarab]

It is a tool that unlocks a different ending for the game, ie, the true cannon ending

[keen thorn]

It's just a slight bonus

[dry hamlet]

Beyond that it’s pretty garbage

[keen thorn]

Voidheart is just for lore

[misty umbra]

It doesnt cost a charm notch, it's just for the endings

[keen thorn]

It's not really for gameplay

[dry hamlet]

Which to me feels a bit dumb

You give me this annoying to get charm, it’s garbage in most cases before i upgraded it

And it’s still garbage after i upgrade it

[wide coral]

thk / pv
grimm / nkg
hive knight
watcher knights
hornet 2 (for dashing out of attacks)
and any boss that has a big hitbox and you need to somehow go trough him

[austere scarab]

It makes the charm cost nothing, and exists for lore

[misty umbra]

Kingsoul is fun to get for me

[dry hamlet]

Grimm i would never dash through

[prime oxide]

Fuck i was so close

[wide coral]

the parkour is fun

[dry hamlet]

I would dash over him

And it worked better

[misty umbra]

Well atleast the white palace part because traitor lord is kinda boring

[austere scarab]

Can't get sharp shadow before hornet 2, unless this is talking about pantheon

[prime oxide]

I died to pure vessel fuck

[dry hamlet]

Watcher knights is a joke even without sharp shadow

[wide coral]

yeah pantheon or hog

[dry hamlet]

They take at min like 14? Hits and their dead

[misty umbra]

Watcher knights is just a boring boss for me

Radianting them was kind of hard for me though

[wide coral]

now i gotta do gorb on radiant

[willow flame]

whats a good loadout for thk

[dry hamlet]

I legit just stood in front of them and stabbed them

[prime oxide]

You know what fuck this i'm not doing pantheon 5 until i beat pure vessel at radiant

[dry hamlet]

And with max nail their a complete joke

[wide coral]

legit takes like 10 minutes max

[dry hamlet]

I hated it

[wide coral]

and abs rad on ascended

[dry hamlet]

Traitor lord was fun

[wide coral]

just to be sure

[austere ledge]

Unbreakable Strength
Shaman stone
Quick slash

[dry hamlet]

But the white palace took me

[misty umbra]

Its more difficult but also more fun in speedruns (where you have less upgrades)

[prime oxide]

I haven't fight with her yet

[dry hamlet]

14 hours

[willow flame]

the "infinity stones"

[dry hamlet]

And i wanted to shoot myself during those 14 hours

And i hated it

[misty umbra]

14 hours for what?

[dry hamlet]

White palace

[wide coral]

mark of pride, shamman stone, strenght and a 2 notch charm

[dry hamlet]

Completing it took me 14 hours…..and i hated every second of it

[misty umbra]

I like white palace except path of pain

[wide coral]

are we deadass

[willow flame]

i have another notch now btw that image is old

[wide coral]

14 hours for mild parkour

[wide coral]

its 11 nothes in total

[willow flame]

i have 10

[misty umbra]

Also if you did pop it isnt needed for kingsoul

[austere ledge]

He doesn't have 11 notched
+Quick slash is better than m.o.p

[dry hamlet]

“Mild”?

[wide coral]

if you have only 10 then use grubsong as list

[dry hamlet]

MILD

[wide coral]

;ast

[dry hamlet]

that was not fuckin mild

[wide coral]

last

[dry hamlet]

That was pure raging stupidity

[wide coral]

for u maybe

[dry hamlet]

Of precise irritating pakrour

[wide coral]

i did path of pain in like

20 mins

my second try

[dry hamlet]

Yeah i know your bullshitting now

[wide coral]

the first try was about 3 hours

bro i litteraly have a 53 minute speedrun any%

and u think i cant do some parkour

[keen thorn]

Yeah PoP is actually extremely mild. It's just the game doesn't prepare you for it whatsoever

[misty umbra]

But it isnt needed for an ending

Its just for important cutscene + journal entry

[wide coral]

path of pain is exactly as it sounds for the first time trying

[dry hamlet]

Yeah why im not going for it

[wide coral]

the second time its just 6/10 parkour

when 10/10 is like celeste hardest level

[dry hamlet]

I just wanted void heart for the damn salubra’s blessing and my 112% completion, so im avoiding that damn path

[hearty beacon]

is hollow knight on black friday discount l?

[wide coral]

no not salubras curse

[dry hamlet]

For now have Colo 3 to do then finishing my hunter’s mark with 1 more enemy

[wide coral]

idk for sure but its regurally at a discount on steam

[dry hamlet]

And then just finishing Grimm and the 4 remaining dream bosses + my pantheons

[hearty beacon]

i want it so bad

[hearty beacon]

oh damn ok :/

[wide coral]

just check every 2 days or so

and silksong might be on discount at the same time as hk

[hearty beacon]

oh do not all discounts on steam start at the same time for holidays?

[wide coral]

some games have discounts others dont

i saw hollow knight like 3 times on discount in the last 2 months

only 7 bosses left chat

[hearty beacon]

oh wow ok

[misty umbra]

Good luck

[hearty beacon]

good luck

[wide coral]

ty ty

it will take like 2 hours

maybe less

[misty umbra]

Absrad was pain in the ass to radiant

[wide coral]

without abs rad

8 with rad

[fallow grotto]

any radiance is easy

[misty umbra]

I really enjoy radianting markoth though

[wide coral]

no

just no

how

can u enjoy that

[gloomy trail]

hell naw

[misty umbra]

I think its my most radianted boss

I radianted him like 12 times

[wide coral]

ok i just beat elder hu 2nd tryu

[misty umbra]

The mighty pancake warrior

[gloomy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/pancake-gif-8693778053032247385

[woeful bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1442500338824380437/1442950097804460214/image0.gif

[gloomy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-hollow-knight-mkk300-gif-20700164

[wide coral]

oro and mato ill try now

[gloomy trail]

I have an insane ammount of beef with them

[austere scarab]

It feels weird that Oro and Mato are considered one boss

[gloomy trail]

It makes sense, as you fight them at the same time

[wide coral]

i got hit only 4 times on ascended

[austere scarab]

I understand Sheo is a lot more chaotic of a fight, but just feels weird having two nailmasters count as one boss

[wide coral]

time for radiant

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-dreamnail-meme-gif-17228998

[wide coral]

they would have had similar movesets

[misty umbra]

Oro and mato was one of my last radiants

[wide coral]

and it just didnt work as 2 separate

[austere scarab]

Yeah, I suppose so

[wide coral]

im used to tanking some hits so radiant might be a challange

[gloomy trail]

Agreed

[austere scarab]

Can you get down to one while having fury before entering the radiant fights, or does it heal you to full when entering?

[wide coral]

it heals u full

[gloomy trail]

Question does Carefree Melody do anything against radiant bosses? Like if you get lucky will it cancel a hit?

[wide coral]

also you cant take dmg before

[wide coral]

is that the second grimm charm

[austere scarab]

I think so..?

[wide coral]

if you banish them

[austere scarab]

Yeah, the banish charm

[gloomy trail]

Yes

[wide coral]

then yes

ive seen a p5 run using it

[dense fjord]

Theyd be way too similar

[misty umbra]

Yeah the only difference between them is the nail arts they use

[dense fjord]

• them together is fun

[misty umbra]

Yeah, fighting them alone would be really easy

[austere scarab]

I know that

[gloomy trail]

My description of Oro and Mato fight is "watcher knights but worse"

[wide coral]

yeah

[misty umbra]

Both of them are kinda boring

[dense fjord]

Am i the only one here that really likes them

[wide coral]

its a fun bossfight

[austere scarab]

Tbh, I actually found the Sheo fight easier than the brothers fight

[wide coral]

but its hard to not get hit

[wide coral]

i do to

too

[dense fjord]

Same tbh

[austere scarab]

Beat Sheo first try when I did him, brothers were second or third try I think

[misty umbra]

True

But sheo is pretty fun

[gloomy trail]

Is there an achievement for killing Nailsmith or only one for letting him live?

[misty umbra]

Both of them has achivements

[austere scarab]

You get an achievement for letting characters die

One for Zote

One for Nailsmith

[dull radish]

what do i do at lake of unn

[heavy barn]

come back later

[full sinew]

Acended absloute radiance is a pain in the ass

[dense fjord]

One for quirrel, although he just kinda dies u don’t really let him die

[austere scarab]

Yeah, that one you can't do anything about

It's not confirmed that he dies is it?

[dull radish]

i saved zote and hes an ungrateful bastard

[austere scarab]

How many times have you saved him?

[gloomy trail]

You get that automatically once you delete Monomon right?

[dull radish]

once

im on my first playthrough

[austere scarab]

You'll find him later

[dull radish]

ok

[gloomy trail]

Same

[dull radish]

nice

[dense fjord]

Nah u gotta sit w him

[dull radish]

i beat hornet last night

[misty umbra]

I love zote

[gloomy trail]

at Blue Lake?

[dense fjord]

Hell yeah how many attempts?

[dense fjord]

Mhm

[misty umbra]

Yes

[dull radish]

like 20+

[gloomy trail]

I think this was a bug but I found him at Blue Lake *before *going to Monomon, does he go back?

[dense fjord]

Lmao fair, first time i fought hornet, i had to sleep and try again in thr morning😭

[dull radish]

yea i just kept fighting her over and over

[gloomy trail]

Hornet Sentinal was a 3 day affair for me

[austere scarab]

Which side was he on?

[gloomy trail]

Left

[misty umbra]

That was prob tiso

[dull radish]

spamming my quick cast everytime i get the chance

[austere scarab]

That's tiso?

[gloomy trail]

who?

[austere scarab]

Tiso

[sudden crystal]

Who's worse:
Tiso or Zote

[gloomy trail]

Ohhh ok mb

[austere scarab]

Zote

[dense fjord]

The easiest boss i struggled against most on my first playthrough was crystal guardian..😭

[misty umbra]

I love them both

[gloomy trail]

Zote

[misty umbra]

They are both meanies

[sudden crystal]

Cringe

[misty umbra]

What

[dull radish]

zote is a fraud ngl

[gloomy trail]

Massive Moss Charger

[austere scarab]

Atleast Tiso actually trys to prove himself

[sudden crystal]

Both of them are pain in the ass

[zinc dawn]

heya, do any of you guys know where to find high res official tc artwork for both hk and ss
stuff like this

[misty umbra]

But that's their character

[civic arch]

oh no

[gloomy trail]

Oh god... 😭

[sudden crystal]

Their characters are fucked up

[misty umbra]

Every character shouldnt be kind or good or whatever

[gloomy trail]

Like Cloth

[fallow grotto]

sugeetam has no sugeetam

[dull radish]

where do i go after fighting hornet

[misty umbra]

Also saving Zote gives you one of the best boss fights in the game

[gloomy trail]

Greenpath or Edge?

[dull radish]

greenpath

[sudden crystal]

One of the most random, idiotic, insane, stupid and freaky fights.

[misty umbra]

S tier fight

Along with pure vessel and the hollow knight

[sudden crystal]

F-

[gloomy trail]

Go back to Crossroads and talk to Salubra

[dull radish]

k

[zinc delta]

i could imagine if they had a new godhome update where there's a pantheon called pantheon of the rolling and it's just rolling bosses and enemies

[gloomy trail]

Lol

[zinc delta]

like dung defender marmu and the beast from the god tamer fight

[gloomy trail]

Watcher Knights, maybe Oro and Mato?

[dense fjord]

Dont forget the 6 rollers themselves

[gloomy trail]

Would you count Oro and Mato or is that cutting it a bit close? They dash instead of roll

[proven thistle]

🖕 🤬 🖕

[zinc delta]

nah

[dense fjord]

Okay mean😞

[maiden echo]

That's not nice

[proven thistle]

Shut The Frick

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/watcher-knight-hollow-knight-pondering-pondering-ball-rolling-gif-23996580

[gloomy trail]

lol

[maiden echo]

Im sorry

[dense fjord]

You didnt do anything wrong dw

[maiden echo]

(Ik)

[potent monolith]

okay, I can save the lost kin fight for later right? gotta find a bench to equip defender's crest, he's mad annoying

[maiden echo]

Yeah he's not required

[dense fjord]

(Oh my brain is silly lmao)

[full sinew]

YES YES YES YES ACENDED HALL OF GODS OMG AM TOO SKILLED HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT 80 TRIES FOR ABSOLUTE RADIANCE

[maiden echo]

You just would wanna kill him for essence

[proven thistle]

Oh so I'm the problem huh I'm the problem huh that's what you say huh??????????????????????????????????????????????????

[gloomy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-curi-meme-patamas-geo-curimomo-gif-11499897465433316147

Me when I died to Grimm and forgot to get my shade back before trying again

[maiden echo]

WWWWWW

[runic shuttle]

mobile is devious

[zinc delta]

just hide in a corner and let minions do everything if you wanna beat him

[dense fjord]

Yes

[proven thistle]

Cool ig. Rollseyesnonchalantly

[dense fjord]

HELLYEAHH IM SO PROUD OF YOU

[full sinew]

THANK YOU ALL

[dense fjord]

OFC

[gloomy trail]

HELL YEAH

[tribal herald]

is sly ok?

[gloomy trail]

No

[full sinew]

ITS TIME FOR P5

TOMORROW IS THE DAY

[gloomy trail]

Try now?

[tribal herald]

hes just stuck in the sky

[full sinew]

Its 11pm for me i didnt aleep bc i was trying to do acended absolute radiance and i did it

[gloomy trail]

oooh

alr

3pm here mb forgot timezones exist

[zinc delta]

it's 8pm here

[dense fjord]

Sleep well

[dense fjord]

7am here lmao

Almost going to school

[full sinew]

[gloomy trail]

About to leave school

[dense fjord]

Lmao

Oh god i just realised

At least 1 person in the world is always at school

[worthy peak]

Or you could attempt radiant

[hot delta]

Guys do I need the king soul charm to be able to get to the hollowknight

[worthy peak]

Instead of sleeping

[dense fjord]

I worded that weirdly but eh

[maiden echo]

No

You just need to kill the dreamers

[hot delta]

O

Ok

[dense fjord]

Chat wanna see my HoG

[maiden echo]

Kingsoul is how you get the void heart

[hot delta]

And then the black egg temple opens right?

[zinc delta]

sure

[maiden echo]

Void heart helps you get to radiance

[maiden echo]

Correct

[hot delta]

Oh k

I’ll just get Voidheart later

[fallow grotto]

nice pfp

😁

[maiden echo]

Tank yew!!

[dense fjord]

I havent played in a few days lmao

[hot delta]

ZOTE

[full sinew]

I cant sleep bc of happiness

[hot delta]

ZOTE MY GOAT

[dull radish]

all she tries to do is sell me charms

[zinc delta]

zote's my goat

[dense fjord]

Aaww thats so sweet

[zinc delta]

the one and only

[fallow grotto]

wait vessel

what’s your favorite sugeetam?

🤔

[zinc delta]

hmm

[dense fjord]

What do u guys think? Ill be practicing pv today to try and finally get that 112%

[potent monolith]

wait fuck I forgot to also visit the palace when I got monarch wings!

[full sinew]

Remember when i said i quit hk
I did acended hog and now i have hope to so p5 again (tomorrow)

[gloomy trail]

And charm slots

[potent monolith]

now I gotta climb down there again 😔

[dull radish]

ik

[gloomy trail]

Believe me its worth it

[zinc delta]

what about RadHoG

[hot delta]

Bro I’m only at 200 essence😭

[gloomy trail]

is that... hollow knight but moble????

[hot delta]

I can’t even get to the palace yet

[full sinew]

Nah abs rad is giving me nightmares

[proud haven]

Put up your dukes

Lets fight

[zinc delta]

he did too

[gloomy trail]

Try Any Rad 3.0

[dense fjord]

I kinda drew the void idol sorta wanna see lmao

[hot delta]

How do u get to abs radiance

[halcyon crescent]

what was the most peak cinamatic momment

[gloomy trail]

Beat Pure Vessel in p5

[hot delta]

Ok

[strong cipher]

i am 9 essence (previously 17) away from true dream nail so im at spirits glade and am murdering the spirits

[full sinew]

Help, that 4 hours felt like forever

[spiral vault]

How do you get to sugateem

[full sinew]

I remeber when his bio was cringe

[hot delta]

Bro I started a week ago, I have mantis claw, shade soul, shade cloak, crystal heart, desolate dive, and etc.

[halcyon crescent]

i refuse to beleive there are humans in this world who play hollow knight on mobile

[hot delta]

I’ve played for 6 hours

[full sinew]

Yeah

[spiral vault]

Whos

[gloomy trail]

HUH?

[full sinew]

Sugeteem

[civic arch]

i almost died to traitor lord wtfff 😨 on my steel soul

[spiral vault]

What was it

My goat sugateem could never be cringe

[full sinew]

Lmao

[civic arch]

fat fuck

[dense fjord]

You can see what i mean by kinda sorta lmao

[full sinew]

His bio was 4 ballerinas and 📷

[solar owl]

Same

[full sinew]

Ur drawing is fire

[dense fjord]

Tysm:D

[full sinew]

U're welcome

[proud haven]

you speak ill of gods looking up as only a mere man

Bite your tongue

[zinc delta]

[full sinew]

?av @proud haven

[idle belfry]

rolithius

Server Avatar

[spiral vault]

Old man

[zinc delta]

[hybrid bloom]

How hard was path of pain for you?

[zinc delta]

zotex9

[full sinew]

Easy

Very eas

Y

[proud haven]

Very hard I was very bad at it now I'm very good at it yippee

[hybrid bloom]

Agreed as a keyboard player

Took less than 30 minutes

[full sinew]

I did it hitless

[zinc delta]

second PoP run was insanely hard bc i was stupid and used dashmaster

[proud haven]

Took me 16 hours I believe fr

[fallow grotto]

pop everyday till i beat IR16AB

😳

[full sinew]

Wtf is ir16ab

[proud haven]

For speedrunning it I use dashmaster sprintmaster sharp shadow

[zinc delta]

i still beat it

[fallow grotto]

😂

[hybrid bloom]

It felt extremely overhyped and when I beat it I wanted more of it

[fallow grotto]

ofc you wouldn’t know.

[civic arch]

i would crash out if the achievement wnas 112 steel soul

[hybrid bloom]

Felt like path of dissapointment

[full sinew]

I think its itemless radiant 16 all bindings

[zinc delta]

it's harder to use dashmaster on controller than kbm

[civic arch]

so far so good

[fallow grotto]

😳

[proud haven]

I am only controller wym

[fallow grotto]

how do you know!

[proud haven]

I don't see how it'd be harder

[full sinew]

What is 16

[gloomy trail]

I still need about 400 essence to get into White Palace

[zinc delta]

i keep dashing down

[fallow grotto]

pantheon 16…?

[zinc delta]

into the saws

[full sinew]

Wtf

[hybrid bloom]

Is this good?

[proud haven]

Nvm super fair it's hard to adjust extremely

[fallow grotto]

modded pantheon 😳

[proud haven]

Took me eons

[full sinew]

Let me search it up

[civic arch]

imagine losing steel soul to radiance

[fallow grotto]

am gtg

🙈

[hybrid bloom]

Oh shit thats an old one

[civic arch]

i wouldve been mad

[proud haven]

I've done pop for like 70 hours or so on ps4 so I'm adapt with it now but it takes like a lot of down dashing into thorns to quit doing it fr

[full sinew]

After doing acended absolute radiance
Normal radiance is a joke for me

[proud haven]

Adept*

[runic shuttle]

ascended radiance but no radiant flukemarm

[dense fjord]

W

[zinc delta]

is RadHoG good or bad

[runic shuttle]

i get really messed up when i try to do hk after pure vessel

[hybrid bloom]

Ive done that now

[runic shuttle]

its really bad you have to do radiant all bindings p5 10 times in a row

[hybrid bloom]

And enraged guardian and uummuu

[dense fjord]

Adess do u like mine :3

[runic shuttle]

do p5 immediately

[zinc delta]

i've done RadHoG and that's not it

[hybrid bloom]

Pretty good (:

[fallow grotto]

hasn’t done p4 yet 😔

👀

[dense fjord]

Gotta finish p4 first lmao

[proud haven]

radhog is really impressive and cool fr
Massive support
I only giggle at people when they like get really uppity in their opinions after only radhog cuz I've seen some absurd losers in years past who had full crash outs at like r5 clearers saying radhog was about the same fr

[fallow grotto]

Vortex when p4

[runic shuttle]

which boss are you stuck on

[dense fjord]

Today :)

[zinc delta]

radiant hall of gods not pantheon 5

[fallow grotto]

radhog is not that impressive

[proud haven]

Yeah but it's still impressive fr

Still like hype shit homie

[dense fjord]

Pv cuz i haven’t practiced yet

[proud haven]

Thumbsup

Yippeee fr

[mild sorrel]

Only to you bro you have 10000% in hk

[proud haven]

When people do it

[full sinew]

Before and after

[fallow grotto]

not really

[zinc delta]

yeah i should try do anyrad hitless on console

[umbral schooner]

I finally did R4, it took 4 hours

[fallow grotto]

😔

[fallow grotto]

if I could mod console i would

[hybrid bloom]

p4 is pretty easy (except pure vessel, I tilted tf out and spent 2 hours trying to beat it, and after a break beat it on my first try)

[runic shuttle]

why is galien covered up

[proud haven]

Sugeetam you must learn to appreciate all accomplishments for others fr

[fallow grotto]

I play controller anyways

[zinc delta]

i want to

[mild sorrel]

Void given form soon

[fallow grotto]

well not all the time

[fallow grotto]

just for fun 😂

[mild sorrel]

Because fuck that guy

[proud haven]

I love contorller

[runic shuttle]

galien is not difficult

[fallow grotto]

🤔

[runic shuttle]

quick slash and damage charms

[zinc delta]

sad that i can't mod my ps5 or ps4

[mild sorrel]

We ain't talking about difficulty
Fuck that guy in particular

[full sinew]

I cant mod my phone

[runic shuttle]

what did he do

[mild sorrel]

I don't know what it is

I just get so pissed off when i see him

[runic shuttle]

what made you mad at him

https://tenor.com/view/not-everyone-has-an-iphone-gif-7021079305409267183

[proud haven]

When people say they beat Radiant Uumuu we go hype shit homie yippeee ggs etc fr cuz yipppeeeeeeee
Even tho radiant uumuu aint like r5 or nothing fr

[mild sorrel]

Everything

Just fuck the guy in general

[runic shuttle]

even more so than markoth?

[mild sorrel]

Markoth is an angel compared to that guy

Fuck galien

[hybrid bloom]

Hollow knight isn't that hard, it just takes a little time to get used to the controls then ur good.

[runic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/lorax-griddy-vangaurd-jaxxom-gif-421926140774936312

[mild sorrel]

I don't know what it is i just really REALLY hate galien

[hybrid bloom]

He's annoying but otherwise eh

[full sinew]

My acended abs rad experience
Phase 1: hitless
Phase 2: got hit two times😨
Climbing:lock in
Phase 3: luck

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-24607778

[mild sorrel]

I think it's prolly because he keeps sliding his ass across the floor which is just inconvenient

[hybrid bloom]

Just keep grinding, the reward is jack shit but its worth it

[runic shuttle]

dashing is a thing btw

[mild sorrel]

I know.
I can deal with it pretty easily i just hate it when that happens

Like with someone such as markoth even if he moves towards me. Cool shit that means i can get more great slash hits

[full sinew]

Reason i died in every p5 attempt
Attempt 1: markoth
Attempt 2: abs rad
Attempt 3: god tamer🙏 🥀
Attemp 4: failed champion

[runic shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198738993433542778/1442050121293627432/image.gif

[mild sorrel]

the four horsemen of- fym god tamer 🙏

[proud haven]

I'm eatin cold spaghetti and meatball out of can

[full sinew]

I had a skill issue

[proud haven]

Yay

[sand smelt]

did i do good?

[full sinew]

Dayum

[runic shuttle]

descending dark exists

[mild sorrel]

Ur alright

[runic shuttle]

is this normal radiance

[full sinew]

Not really

[proud haven]

To be very clear I love this and that's a W

[runic shuttle]

why are you still flexing ts

[full sinew]

Am happy

[hybrid bloom]

Funnily enough I never died on the last like 8 bosses in p5 (except one fucking time when FUCKING MARKOTH was a bitch)

[runic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-hollow-knight-gif-8691405304708562462

[full sinew]

Lmao

[mild sorrel]

Iam thinking about doing charmless radhog again lowk

[full sinew]

Holy shi

[vivid creek]

Do RABHoG

[full sinew]

Bro nau

[mild sorrel]

Fuck you respectfully

[full sinew]

Nah*

[hybrid bloom]

I spent hours just practicing the bosses so almost no one was a problem, I died like 5 times on abs rad tho

[mild sorrel]

Canon event

[runic shuttle]

again?

[vivid creek]

lel

[runic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-1955501164687414218

[mild sorrel]

Now that i think about it maybe is why i hate galien

Because believe it or not he was the hardest

[frozen folio]

charmless radhog sounds tedious as hell

like just do the big 4 and call it a day

[runic shuttle]

charmless radhog no skills no abilities old nail

[frozen folio]

and like markorh and no eyes and shit idk

[vivid creek]

gotta try r04HoG

[mild sorrel]

Purely because some of the inconvenient little shits actually become huge trouble.
Such as marmu.

[runic shuttle]

and its steel soul but you die permanently if you die to one of the bosses

[mild sorrel]

We need genio for ts 🙏

[hybrid bloom]

I love absolute radiance for the boss fight, I hate absolute radience for what you have to do to reach the boss

[vivid creek]

No abilities is legit impossible because of absrad
Can do every other boss tho

[runic shuttle]

what ability is required

oh dash

[vivid creek]

Claw for climb phase

[runic shuttle]

probably

[runic shuttle]

hmmmmmm

ok then ill throw in a claw

[dry hamlet]

Bro so far i hate colo 3

It and white palace suck so much

[runic shuttle]

colo 3

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[wide charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961687761151221773/1371436905668939836/attachment78789798.gif

[mellow pier]

😭🙏

[dry hamlet]

The irritating part id

I dont even need the stupid geo

There’s nothing else for me to buy

[runic shuttle]

what part are you stuck on

[dry hamlet]

I JUST WANNA FIGHT THE STUPID BOSS IN IT

[elder oriole]

Should I draw hornet

[dry hamlet]

The no floor section, it just feels unfair cus ill pogo an enemy

And SOMEHOW I STILL GET HIT BY THEM

when their not an enemy that can hit UP

[runic shuttle]

you get hit if you touch an enemy

[woeful bough]

yes

[hybrid bloom]

How long did it take u to beat nkg?

[vivid creek]

Forgot to mention collector would technically be possible but it'd be so absurdly difficult
I have no idea how long it'd even take someone

[dry hamlet]

Yeah, but in this case i don’t even see that im touching them

[elder oriole]

The gaydiance

[dry hamlet]

IM LITERALLY ABOVE THEM

POGOING OFF THEIR HEAD

[runic shuttle]

sometimes hitboxes are wonky

[dry hamlet]

SOMEHOW I TAKE RANDOM DAMAGE

[runic shuttle]

or you pogoed too late

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-i'm-out-1-3-seconds-1-3-seconds-meme-sliding-gif-18353827383643920094

[dry hamlet]

That’s my problem though is that

I play fine, but then randomly ill take damage and it doesn’t even look like anything hit me

[mellow pier]

I thought I would see another version

[worthy peak]

it clearly is your problem though

[dry hamlet]

It just feels like the game is saying “Screw you”

[worthy peak]

just pogo earlier

[maiden echo]

POV: one of your favorite bosses in the whole game is not that fun to radiant :c

[teal geyser]

when the cost is too great, you hollow the knight
but there is no cost too great, you sing... the silk song

[dry hamlet]

I literally cannot pogo any earlier

[faint sorrel]

Should i do the speed completion and the steel heart achievement separately or at the same time?

[dry hamlet]

Because wgain

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/shakespeare-gif-20710842

[dry hamlet]

No floor and tiny freaking CEILING

[vivid creek]

Same time :p

[runic shuttle]

silken song of farewell

[worthy peak]

then you made a mistake earlier on that locked off your options

[dry hamlet]

CUS THE GAME DECIDED NO NOT HEALING OR ANY FLOOR WAS HARD ENOUGH

[runic shuttle]

is it the armored squit part

[dry hamlet]

LETS MAKE THE AREA NOT EVEN TALL ENOUGH TO FULLY JUMP

[worthy peak]

cause there is not time where theres not enough space to pogo but you can hit them

with a pogo

[dry hamlet]

Yes

[teal geyser]

cant wait to get brummchild

[worthy peak]

At least to my memory

[dry hamlet]

I always get there with at most 3-4 masks

[dry hamlet]

Because of the hell of BULL that precedes it

[runic shuttle]

chill tf out bro

[dry hamlet]

And then game decides “Nope you didn’t hit that squit, now you take 2 damage from squit and then the spikes”

[full sinew]

Am i the only one who was watching
Cartoon cat vs siern head
Before 5 years

[runic shuttle]

you dont see me crying after dying to absrad in hallownest

[dry hamlet]

Ive been attempting this stupid colosseum

[frozen hull]

Crazy elitism

[dry hamlet]

For the past 3 days and not even 1 bit of progress

[runic shuttle]

yes

[full sinew]

I almost broke me phone bc i died to failed champion

[frozen hull]

Although,

[vivid creek]

Crying due to marmu in r5 runs

[frozen hull]

Yeah dude Colo is easy

[runic shuttle]

cold

[frozen hull]

💔

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/the-radiance-hollow-knight-pale-king-watch-your-tone-watch-your-tone-mf-gif-25105189

[dry hamlet]

Yeah that’s the thing i keep seeing so many people say “Oh this is so easy” when clearly it fucking isnt

[worthy peak]

you dont see me crying after 30 hours of any rad yeilds no progress

[runic shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592273977137692683/1438973566916755588/togif.gif

[dull radish]

should i get these?

[full sinew]

Beo markoth kissed my masks i started the fight with 2 masks and 0 soul

[runic shuttle]

immediately

[frozen hull]

Get Strength

[full sinew]

Yes especially the 600 one

[vivid creek]

Most of the people saying that probs have like 100+ hours and p1-4/5 done
Collo 3 is definitely pretty hard for a new player

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-tuff-son-im-crine-gif-7690159340150630748

[dry hamlet]

When it’s literally one of my last 6 things to do beyond

[dry hamlet]

Im not even that new

[full sinew]

[dry hamlet]

This is my 2nd playthrough

[runic shuttle]

i lowkey wanna throw this baby out a window bro

[full sinew]

Same

[woeful bough]

he is tuff wdym

[worthy peak]

also you shouldn't be taking two damage

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-tuff-son-im-crine-gif-7690159340150630748

[dry hamlet]

I skipped past colo and alot of the other stuff in my first run

[worthy peak]

there is time to double jump

[runic shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440438684074639361/1442602962559041619/Destruction.gif

[full sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/gfy-disney-smile-gif-5272266

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-mooooods-moods-mods-moooods-mooos-gif-13680649210623744842

[dry hamlet]

1 from squit, then i hit the spikes below it because no i dont get time to double jump

[vivid creek]

Collo 3 is still like somewhere between p2 & 3 in difficulty
It's not something that most people just breeze through

[worthy peak]

https://youtu.be/BaDYPmuYW0Y 7:58 shows that you can aviod taking two damage

[runic shuttle]

you can dash pogo off the squit then dash and repeat

[runic shuttle]

trail of the fool 😔

[dry hamlet]

Yeah again I can’t pogo off squit once let alone repeatedly in that tiny bs arena

[worthy peak]

Use great slash

it oneshots

[full sinew]

Is this good for a mobile player

[dry hamlet]

You can charge nail arts on the wall?

[worthy peak]

there is time to charge between spawns

[worthy peak]

yeah

so long as you dont attack you can charge

[woeful bough]

yeah

[dry hamlet]

I don’t even need the geo just the boss

Cus it’s one of my last bosses

[full sinew]

W

[woeful bough]

ty

[dry hamlet]

Then i have my 4 remaining dream bosses and NKG

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/grimmchild-my-beloved-grimmchild-hollow-knight-gif-26340112

[runic shuttle]

enough of ts bro

[vivid creek]

What's your charm build?

[worthy peak]

But you definetly have timme to pogo

[woeful bough]

grimchild on absolute radiance is peak

[dry hamlet]

One sec

[runic shuttle]

i guess grimmchild works if you dont know how to hit absrad in last stage

[woeful bough]

emotional support

[wide charm]

whats squit

[dry hamlet]

Steady Body, Stalwart Shell, Nailmaster’s glory, Quick Slash, Unbreakable strength and Dreamwielder

[worthy peak]

this is important

[woeful bough]

something missing

[dry hamlet]

That’s my max charm notches

[woeful bough]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-11044008572353593456

[dry hamlet]

Beyond void heart

Which does nothing

[vivid creek]

Maybe try switching stalwart shell + dream wielder for mark of pride

[dry hamlet]

I tried it before with mark of pride

The longer reach didn’t help too much

In fact mark of pride is my normal boss loadout

[vivid creek]

Maybe shaman stone then

[worthy peak]

That video i sent was a guide you could use

Try those strategies

[dry hamlet]

Mark of pride, Nailmaster Glory, Quick Slash, Steady Body and Stalwart Shell

[vivid creek]

No strength is kinda rough

[dry hamlet]

Dreamwielder i brought in to help get soul from the follies and the Garpedes

In that one section where their coming downwards

[worthy peak]

there is enough to get like 5 bars anyway

[dry hamlet]

Lets me get max soul if i dont have any by that point somehow

[dry hamlet]

Their too fast

To get it normally

[worthy peak]

no they aren't

[vivid creek]

Wanna try streaming a couple attempts in vc?
I can try to give pointers if I can see where you're having trouble

[dry hamlet]

From what i was playing? Yeah they were too fast

I could get off at most like

2-3? Dreamnails at most?

[worthy peak]

You should be able to get 4

[dry hamlet]

Primal Aspids suck

They shouldve stayed extinct

[worthy peak]

Ive recounted and can see 5 times there is enough space

[maiden echo]

Damn I suck at ascended nosk :c

[worthy peak]

:(

[worthy peak]

shade dash through him for safety

[vivid creek]

Reg nosk is kinda rough after getting used to the winged version, lol
Was one of my last few radiants

Also was the main reason r2 took me longer than r3/4

[maiden echo]

I know how to cheese attuned nosk so that's just how I beat him but you can't do that with ascended

[vivid creek]

Ddark is your friend

[worthy peak]

Indeed

[vernal knot]

Cheese Nosk?

[vivid creek]

Hide next to the platform to dodge charges

[vast rapids]

The first thing that I think about is nerf markoth

[paper narwhal]

i got the mantis claw :D

where do i go after mantis claw

is it that one place that hornet went over the acid

[worthy peak]

Markoth isn't even the hardest radiant

hes just annoying

[runic shuttle]

you fight mantis lords

[potent monolith]

I can, can't I?

[runic shuttle]

open all the levers and then the big door at the bottom will open

[potent monolith]

I can

[worthy peak]

and hes not the worst as in most annoying either

[potent monolith]

and I don't even get any geo, boo

[paper narwhal]

oh god

are you sure city of tears isn’t next

[vivid creek]

Ye absrad is like 2x harder, imo

[runic shuttle]

i mean its not required

but DO IT

[paper narwhal]

I don’t wanan fight mantis lords 😭

[fair cove]

is 9:05 a good time for my first completion of pantheon 2?

[vast rapids]

But for me he is hell on pantheon of the hallownest, because just before grey prince zote

[worthy peak]

that sounds like GPz is the problem

or more the combination

nerfing one is a cheap fi

and not the point

absrad alone is harder than the combination anyway

[heavy barn]

true

absrad took me quite literally over 10x longer

[worthy peak]

it was only 3 times longer for me i feel sorry for you

though it might be you got lucky with markoth

[pliant tree]

dude

im done

white defender is so hard

And he has so much ho

Hp

[hollow marsh]

Dang

[pliant tree]

Pantheon 4 is not possible for me

Bro its over

[hollow marsh]

R u using quick slash

[pliant tree]

Yes

Hes too hard

[hollow marsh]

Shamans

[vital tundra]

pure nail?

[hollow marsh]

?

[vivid creek]

Radiant difficulty, imo

[vital tundra]

❌ mop solos in white defender

[hollow marsh]

Use shamans soul catcher and quick slash

[vital tundra]

idk i found gpz pretty easy to radiant, granted it was my last radiant though so idk

[vital tundra]

no bro

💔

🥀

[hollow marsh]

For white defender

[earnest widget]

why is absrad so much harder than normal radiance?

[vital tundra]

spells are not even great on white defender bro

[hollow marsh]

Theirs so many spell opportunists

[pliant tree]

Quick Slash
Unbreakable strenght
Shaman stone
The 1 charm notch charm that removes recoil
dream charm (the one that gives soul)

[hollow marsh]

Wdym

He’s still like most of the time

[pliant tree]

should i use quick heal?

[heavy barn]

yeah he only took me 20 mins

[vital tundra]

hence its better to use nail bro

[hollow marsh]

No

[earnest widget]

i know she's faster, but radiance is like average difficulty

[vital tundra]

if hes still you should be using nail

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[hollow marsh]

Healing in his fight isn’t to hard

[earnest widget]

absrad is so tough

[placid ledge]

yo i gotta ask who invited quirrel

[worthy peak]

... i tookk like 5 hours

[pliant tree]

soul master is C tbh

I beat him easily with the bluetooth build

[pliant tree]

Hes goated wdym?

[earnest widget]

bluetooth?

[heavy barn]

i put off radhog for way too long though

[vernal knot]

Pale King should've been there

[heavy barn]

like i had way more experience than most people going into radhog

[worthy peak]

till what?

[zinc delta]

zote should replace him

[vernal knot]

why the fuck is MID besides TK 😭

[vital tundra]

hahah what

i did radhog before p5

[dull radish]

ok i got fragile strength

[vernal knot]

I think you may have overprepared

[heavy barn]

i did a bunch of godhome challenges and challenge runs before p5 and radhog

[vernal knot]

How do you even do RadHog before P5. you can't unlock absrad without doing P5

[vivid creek]

You can unlock absrad by reaching her

Don't need to actually beat the pantheon

[vernal knot]

Yeah but you need to do it

[heavy barn]

so i ended up "first trying" p5 and radhog took me like 6 hours total

[distant lagoon]

P5 isn’t required but if you feel up to the challenge then go for it!!

i personally really loved the challenge

But god the setbacks are brutal

[earnest widget]

what is radhog?

[thick elk]

Watcher Knights very high